#lineup-help

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rapid rampart
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Swap Rowan and Daimon if he can tank

summer wyvern
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Is there anyother thing i could to help out this team comp? Or do i just have to rng it and swap around positions...

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I would love to use rowan or ferael but they just die instantly bc of thier low rating

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I have rowan at legendary

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3 actually

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K

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Do i get brutus any higher or just keep him at legandary+

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I get that. I meant normal Brutus and what would my last character be to fill in the comp besides rowan and ferael bc i am working on getting more copies of them

quaint kiln
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It is gb tower...

lime willow
oblique nebula
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I guess I have u on my fl? u can check my clear if so
I remember this floor being annoying

glass warren
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My luc dies in 2 hits when she gets into the fight lol

cunning turret
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I still don't get how hyperinvesting into a carry helps. My tanks and stuff just dies like really fast and then stuff goes downhill from there

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What I have now

ornate hollow
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And check afk helper for good comps no need to reinvent the wheel

cunning turret
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The popular formations tab?

cunning turret
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Ok ok thanks

blissful hatch
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hard stuck on campaign level. unsure what to do formation or hero wise. any help appreciated

echo locust
echo locust
lime willow
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stop giving bad advice pls ty

echo locust
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@lime willow bro im just saying what they can do with what they have

lime willow
echo locust
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Or do u not want someone who has other accounts to help

lime willow
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?

quaint kiln
blissful hatch
echo locust
quaint kiln
echo locust
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Is that because u don't have them on that lvl i also said build up other factions

quaint kiln
blissful hatch
blissful hatch
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instead of who?

echo locust
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Instead of any purple

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Basically use him front line

blissful hatch
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you mean thorean?

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yeah he is in frontline now, with the arden in the back

echo locust
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Is that the gold

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Ok well that's all u can do

blissful hatch
echo locust
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Oh i see

blissful hatch
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i still lose easily

echo locust
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Get rid of the purple mid for gold top mid

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Place dark hero in the middle

quaint kiln
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Other heroes need investment to carry

quaint kiln
blissful hatch
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saveas just dies instantly no matter where i put him. i feel so stuck 😦

echo locust
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Tbh it was just King's when i was playing

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@blissful hatch just don't worry

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Get to lvl 160 all you will have 2 wait to pass it

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Don't worry my very 1st account is stuck as well on the same stage

lime willow
quaint kiln
blissful hatch
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yeah i’m new and made dumb mistakes. just hope i can make up for it and continue as i don’t want to have to make a new account

echo locust
blissful hatch
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so you think try build saveas and mareal now?

eternal belfry
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I manage to portal the niru to create a path to isabella but i dont have the damage to finish her off before i get shredded.

quaint kiln
blissful hatch
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daimon is L+

quaint kiln
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Eironn needs 309

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Ainz needs 303 at least
Mishka needs 309

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So yeah go with saveas and mirael for now

keen rain
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damn are y'all trolling or actually dumb

blissful hatch
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i’m dumb/new

keen rain
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you're being given bad advices

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unfortunately no one here gives a shit anymore. have fun!

eternal belfry
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Aight done

cunning turret
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Is daimon supposed to be worse than brutus? I dont really see why so many people seems to recommend brutus when he dies so quickly

lime willow
keen rain
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other tanks against stronger heroes will most definitely die faster than the 7 second immunity

cunning turret
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so daimon is better if Im below 141

keen rain
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can you please shut the fuck up in this server? i honestly feel sorry for these players after taking in the dogshit advices you've given

royal stag
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Chill

keen rain
echo locust
cunning turret
keen rain
cunning turret
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hmm so wukong and daimon carry?

echo locust
cunning turret
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My crystals gonna take a hit from how often I change my carries but sure

echo locust
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@keen rain think of the stage they on don't want them to use powerful Early because it don't always work

keen rain
keen rain
echo locust
keen rain
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that's why i mentioned if daimon's not making the cut he can use mirael instead. do you think im giving some bullshit 'holy shit it's daimon, you should use him'

echo locust
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It's how ik they don't want to use powerful Early because it don't always work

keen rain
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you're litearlly at ch10 and you have knowledge to do so? woah, never knew that

cunning turret
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wait so what I do now: reset brutus and mirael, invest everything into daimon, if it doesnt work then backtrack and pour everything into mirael instead

royal stag
cunning turret
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6-6

keen rain
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if you think that you're qualified to give advices then sure do it, but try to apply your own advices in your account and see how fucking well it would work considering that you're stuck in ch15 for 2 months

echo locust
royal stag
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Im out khasosrun

keen rain
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damn that's even worse than i've predicted

echo locust
royal stag
keen rain
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good point

echo locust
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@royal stag sorry i have had a old wasy i have had several years away from the game

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I mean s191 i think one of my accounts is on is probably fairly old

keen rain
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@sly thunder @echo locust @quaint kiln i just want to say that if you give advices like these irl, the earth would be doomed in less than a day. so basically you guys are fucking shitheads isathumbsup

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if possible, don't be dumbasses. if not possible, then don't spread it everywhere as it is contagious

echo locust
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So toxic wow

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Get a life @keen rain and learn not everyone is a whale like u

keen rain
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quite impressed that you 3 were able to make this channel a circus

quaint kiln
echo locust
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@keen rain i mean if this ain't helping people and them thanking me for it what do u call it?

quaint kiln
glass warren
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I get deleted pretty fast here

echo locust
glass warren
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Eironn gets banished

lime willow
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at the top are your most invested heroes

echo locust
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Are also ur most powerful

lime willow
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no

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dont talk if you dont know shit about this game isathumbsup

echo locust
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Yes because u invited alot. In them unless u have a hero you. Just got thats new and. Needs building up then ur most invested ur most powerful

lime willow
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why are you trying to argue with more experienced people?

echo locust
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More experienced my azz

lime willow
glass warren
royal stag
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Thats not true

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Its about stars and power

echo locust
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Im glad my oldest Account got dleted

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Apparently it was glitching but really was just whaled up

royal stag
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Tell my why my Lucretia has more Power then Mishka

glass warren
glass warren
royal stag
ornate hollow
glass warren
# royal stag

Well the level 96 in ranger and the +5 si over mishka might do it

royal stag
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Its her E86

paper minnow
glass warren
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Anyhow dear god 5 pull cant pull this comp xD should i just pull out ainz or scarlet for this one?

gloomy shard
barren zealot
stray pine
barren zealot
glass warren
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I dont have zol

lime willow
barren zealot
glass warren
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Everyone dies in 8 seconds

lime willow
lime willow
glass warren
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No i had to put gear on eironn to make him pull

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Takes both eironn fully geared and lyca to pull them

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Just took like 11 retrys

bronze portal
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Is this too much support

glass warren
# bronze portal Is this too much support

Id say not but put oden in the back and lyca in front, maybe throw brutus in if you need longer lasting front, nemora really isn't all that useful early same with pippa, i think pippa is mostly for thoran cheese

bronze portal
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Ight thx

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Also shpuld i try ascending brutus to legendary or just keep him elite+ instead

winter marsh
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I'm having issues cheesing 40-44 and none of the afk helper's team seem to work

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i know the deficit isnt massive and maybe it makes the cheese more rng but some people on afk helper are higher level and cheesed it

winter marsh
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that's the 5th fight

royal stag
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@winter marsh

winter marsh
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well your deficit is bigger

glass warren
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Is angelo just so fast that eironn cany pull? How do i deal eith that

royal stag
winter marsh
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i mean i'll try ^^

royal stag
glass warren
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The problem is angelo normal attack hits eironn preventing him from pulling then everyone dies quick

winter marsh
bronze portal
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Ight so should i buy a thoran from lab to make him e+?

winter marsh
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buy arthur instead

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@royal stag♥

royal stag
bronze portal
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I dont think id make it tho

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Or will there be a new one in the end of the month

lime willow
bronze portal
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I guess thats possible

lunar jacinth
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im currently running silas daimon belinda brutus and relif forces lucreita should i try replacing brutus with thoran for the buff with 3 graveborne

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other bit

wet dagger
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Anyone hero i should merc for this one, plus maybe a team idea maybe

ornate hollow
lunar jacinth
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i don't mind really

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just wondering what to work on

ornate hollow
lunar jacinth
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i mean what have i spent fodder on thats bad

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so i know what i did wrong😔

ornate hollow
lunar jacinth
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yeah thing is i was playing without any help for a while and i didn't do that untill like chapter 23

ornate hollow
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These ones you should have saved your fodder and used on more useful heroes

lunar jacinth
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Yeah my belinda is kinda annoying now

ornate hollow
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probably your wishlist is not optimal either

lunar jacinth
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ill send

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I mainly stargaze anyway for silas

ornate hollow
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yeah should follow #faq-resources hero ascension priorities, a few of them are really not so useful, some do their job at E so you only need 1 copy

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and never stargaze 4 faction heroes, stargazing is for celehypos only

lunar jacinth
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wait y

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im stargazing for lucreita now

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cos she is quite good i think

ornate hollow
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4F are a lot easier to get you will eventually use them as fodder too, celehypos a lot more expensive in value

lunar jacinth
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but going back to my question should i get thoran instead of brutus

ornate hollow
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lucretia is fine but it is recommended to get good 4F hero teams first since she is expensive to get to ascended and it will help you in multi battles

lunar jacinth
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4F?

ornate hollow
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4 faction

lunar jacinth
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yeah thought so

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i was thinking daimon, silas, thoran, belinda(cos she is levelled) and someone else?

ornate hollow
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like I said you would probably get stuck later with these heroes, but if you want to try and keep going you can check afk helper for comps

lunar jacinth
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can i save the account?

ornate hollow
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thoran is useful sometimes, there is no such thing as best comp it depends on what you're fighting against

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I think you need to start over. You could get a better opinion than mine at #classic-questions that's what this channel is for

lunar jacinth
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y tho I have spent alot of time into the acc suerly its not that bad

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i have another account that i was working on that i used the tips for

ornate hollow
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Fodders get scarce later, they give you too many at the start and a lot of people make bad ascensions because of it. it could be months before you ascend important heroes you might need for campaign / faction towers

lunar jacinth
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ill show my other account

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i did all these following the faq

ornate hollow
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ok this looks better, safiya and cecillia only need 1 copy so swap them at the wishlist according to the pins and don't spend more fodder on safiya

humble hazel
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What can i change at my team? At afk helper I saw people who didn't even have an Ascended hero winning this :p

wet dagger
amber ferry
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Hi all. I need some help for make 4 team for the campaign plz. Some one can help me ?

lunar jacinth
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yeah sure I did

thin kite
lunar jacinth
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ok i will start doing that

thin kite
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silas can be targeted with a wishlist,faction scrolls, faction cards and 3k diamond for targetted summon

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celestials and hypogeans pretty much stargazing only

lunar jacinth
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yeah i used my 2 targeted for silas this morning

amber ferry
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Some one can help me to make 4 teams plz ?

barren zealot
humble hazel
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But Raku +30 probably is going to take some time

celest marlin
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Any help for my extremely new team? Only been playing 2 days lol, I’m pretty much stuck at the end of Chap 12 for now and just trying to plan my next move. I’ve tried to only stick to increasing my fodder so I can use the crystal for everyone but Grez.

ornate hollow
celest marlin
ornate hollow
twilit sparrow
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I got those team i tried to make with Daimon, is there anything better than that?

pale kettle
twilit sparrow
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yeah i know, it's just that i wait for my 5 others to get to M

pale kettle
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These type of heroes are only able to upgrade as Legendary + , which means you can't get them as Ascended and so on, but they are excellent as materials to upgrade your other heroes to Myth or Myth+

twilit sparrow
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yeah but can i just upgrade them to Myth only or do i really need to get Myth+ ?

pale kettle
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I dont know if its understandable by that, but if you want to get a Myth character, you need one "ascendable" character as Legendary + .
Once you got that character as Legendary + , you need to have one more other character from the same faction (ex. Wilder+Wilder) as Legendary + too, to make your Ascendable character become Myth

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Same goes again, but once u got your character as Myth, you need again a sam factioned character as Legendary + tier, to make your Myth character become Myth +

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After your character became Myth + , you need 2x copy of that current Myth + character as Elite + . Once you got that 2x Elite + hero, you can make your hero become Ascended from Myth +

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And after you got your character as Ascended, you only need to have is that character as Elite + each time you have him, you can get him one star. And the maximum is 5-star Ascended

twilit sparrow
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If i understand right, i have right now 2 graveborn L+ that are used as fodders, if i want to up Thoran (i said him because i heard he's relly good in the campain) i can use one to get him M, the other for M+, but i will need 2 thoran E+ for Ascended

pale kettle
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I really hoped I am understandable hahah 😄

solemn ruin
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Guys i'm stuck on 10-40. Can you help me to build best team possible for campaign

pale kettle
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Silas is a good healer what can I say, Daimon is good for backline support, alongside with Awakened Brutus of yours. You should get Thoran as well, he is nice

molten mantle
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I need some help

pale kettle
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Not even mentioning your chapter level wow

molten mantle
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I need one more to ascended

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Can you help me?

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@pale kettle

pale kettle
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Who you wish to ascend?

molten mantle
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No I need help with this chapter

pale kettle
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Oh

molten mantle
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@pale kettle yea I need help with this level

pale kettle
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You need to get higher levels

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Plus at least Myth + heroes since Legendary heroes are weak at that point

molten mantle
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I was useing them as subs

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Trying different comps

pale kettle
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I see

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Tasi is a madness in these campaigns

molten mantle
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Wym?

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Who is tasi?

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@pale kettle

solid cedar
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I am stuck on the campaign can someone help me to do a team

cunning turret
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This good for beginners?

molten mantle
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Yo can someone help me make a line up

tired jolt
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Help im stuck

jagged pivot
jagged pivot
paper minnow
paper minnow
jagged pivot
paper minnow
jagged pivot
errant prawn
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Who should I raise first eironn or saurus?

fiery wing
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none

errant prawn
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then who?

fiery wing
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show box maybe?

errant prawn
left eagle
errant prawn
rain zinc
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Anyone got suggestions on comp to build out of this roster? I've been stuck on 35-60 for a Couple weeks now

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Right now I need 4 teams for these stages

barren zealot
# errant prawn may i know why?

You shouldn’t start ascending 4 skill heroes until you have 4 e+ copies of them. Making a hero legendary is a waste of resources that you are then waiting on good rng to continue ascending

errant prawn
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I see, ill try to restart

paper minnow
quartz monolith
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Help me build a good team

cloud nexusBOT
fiery wing
lime willow
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dont bully

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but yes bad isathumbsup

outer cairn
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Can anyone come up with a good team comp? My formation is so bad right now. Stuck at 30-12

toxic heron
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I can ascend oden and grezhul, which one of this 2 od better im my team ?

glass warren
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i think grez first because he is used all over the place and oden is great for sapping energy

toxic heron
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less than 3 for sure

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i mean mythic ofc

lime willow
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so oden imo

toxic heron
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OK. I will ascend grezhul too but need to farm fodders first so i decided to go for one of them now

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im still waiting for 1 elite copy of thoran to get him to ascended

lime willow
toxic heron
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i want to focus on grezhul now (at least from graveborn faction)

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would you suggest any heroes from other factions i should focus on ?

old token
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Suggestions? Or am I just too low in level?

pale kettle
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Tried a lot of comps with different formations including oden/rosa/grez/raku/lyr/ez and those in the picture. Everything dies too fast. Help much appreciated

cosmic bobcat
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I really like this team but daimon keeps dying so should I replace them?

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Probably cuz I can't ascend them

stable ember
stable ember
cosmic bobcat
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Like this?

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Hes not in rc yet

stable ember
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More or less, although you'd also be much better off also using Oden instead of tasi

cosmic bobcat
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Okay so

stable ember
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Something like that, yeah. Ezizh' position can be entirely variable based on what you're going against, you can toss him directly across from a hero that is giving you issues

cosmic bobcat
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Okay

pale kettle
stable ember
cosmic bobcat
bold fable
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Im stuck at 5-32 with this team, any tips how to improve?

stable ember
pulsar anchor
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Best rng i get is everyone dead but fawkes and then thoran dies. Any suggestions?

hardy mauve
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wanna see if u guys think this is possible, been trying to rush to stage 16-20 for extra rewardslycalurk

pulsar anchor
lime willow
cloud nexusBOT
pulsar anchor
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I always forget that lol, none of the in game suggestions are helpful

hardy mauve
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me who checked and all r at least lvl 165 for my stage sadira

lime willow
pulsar anchor
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That doesn't matter as much as you think, it's only 20 levels

bold fable
lime willow
bold fable
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so there is no point using wukong when i already have mirael on E+?

stable ember
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depends, he just solo carries until then, and she may not work as well until she has more skills unlocked etc.

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can pretty much have 4 level 1 heroes with wu-kong and he does the same first handful of chapters

hardy mauve
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been trying to do it for an hour or so, jsut cant seem to get it to work, ig imma just wait sadira

stable ember
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that is a big part of the game, the earlier you get used to it the easier it gets to just walk away for a bit until you get more resources etc lol

hardy mauve
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ye, was just trying to get to 16-20 so i get a bit more from afk, guess not that lucky this time

cunning turret
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Reached level 100 and 7-16, what should my lineup look now

paper minnow
stark cape
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who should I go first? mythic+ daimon or legendary+ silas? also if I mythic+ daimon I'll use shemira as food after I get the 7th day sign in rewards, is it ok to feed her?

paper minnow
stark cape
paper minnow
stark cape
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oh yeah I forgot I also still has the chest u get after clearing ch 12, who should I get there? thinking of getting mishka since I just need 1 more copy to get her to legendary+ but hesitating since I might get a copy from tavern or smthng

cunning turret
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wait I dont really get what to put in resonating crystals, is it just the 5 core members I used on my main squad? And when is it a good idea to reset heros

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and in the guide terminology I keep seeing something called "fodder", can I check if those mean the stuff you put in resonating crystals

pale kettle
ornate hollow
quartz monolith
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Help me build

sly thunder
sly thunder
rain zinc
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=endgamecomps

fast heart
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Hey i seem to not be able to beat this, my team can't kill one guy, and my crystal can't be increased since all but 2 reached max level. My suport at the back dies in like 20 seconds, then brutus and then thoran.

bold fable
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Should i place my carry in the front line, since he is like 20lvl above my supports? I feel like the supports instantly die

pale kettle
pale kettle
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Will try. I sent the pics but phone is being slow

sly thunder
ornate hollow
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Need help from you thoran cheese experts.
Trying to copy this r2 thoran cheese with a +20 thoran, most times it dies before even using his ult I am guessing because Rowan is not in the team.
Been at it for a few days, is this impossible without +30 or just high rng? Do I need to consider changing some heroes?

dark bane
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guys can anybody put SS wish list in summoning from best 5 heroes of each faction please?

dark bane
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@old token ty so much

topaz condor
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Is this good for now?(brutus, wu Kong, oden, rowan and mehira) still waiting to unlock one more space in resonating crystal for mehira tho

jagged pivot
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wanton knoll
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ashen pumice
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Is this good? I use the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 in every battle.

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Should I prioritise one and level up one more then the others or?

old token
# ashen pumice Is this good? I use the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 in every battle.

Double check your wishlist (just checking) Overall good start if your wishlist was set correctly

For you, focus on Daimon and 4 other fodders (ideally Mirael, Saveus, Arden, Silvina); focus on Daimon he's your carry now

Use resonating crystal for all else

BTW I don't see Wu-Kong. Just hit share when you can and it's yours (no need to actually share)

wanton knoll
ashen pumice
old token
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ashen pumice
royal stag
old token
ashen pumice
wanton knoll
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@old token maybe this will work for you^^

old token
ashen pumice
old token
wanton knoll
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if it does not work you could sub silas for odin but if oden doesn't survive behind brutus then you might want to use someone else

ashen pumice
old token
old token
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So like for the first row, instead of the maid, put in the nun; after you get one copy of the nun, put the maid back in

ashen pumice
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Okay got it, thank you.

old token
ashen pumice
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Should i reset a hero and level up extra more Daimon and put the rest back to the reseted hero?

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Since all are on the same level i though i should level up a prioritise daimon

old token
wanton knoll
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that is if you can take him far enough by having enough copies of him

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for example have 2 copies of him right now and because of that you could be really unlucky and not get anymore copies of him for a long time which means he gets stuck at legendary

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for that reason it is highly recommended that you do not get any heroes to legendary unless you are able to take them to legendary + right away which takes an additional 2 copies of the hero

ashen pumice
old token
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Yah to reiterate only ascend fodder for now (I recommend Mirael/Arden/Saveus/Silvina and maybe Hogan if you aren't able to get Daimon to L+)

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All else keep at Elite+

Your fodder is what will get you up in levels (as they go on the resonating crystal)

ashen pumice
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Can you guys please explain what fodder is and all that about it?

wanton knoll
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fodder are the heroes that go to legendary+

ashen pumice
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For example Daimon

old token
wanton knoll
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they are basically food for the heroes that can go to ascended 5 stars

ashen pumice
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So should i basically put my 5 heroes i use for battle in the upper 5 slots?

wanton knoll
# ashen pumice For example Daimon

any hero that can go to ascended 5 star is not instantly considered a fodder hero you could argue that if theres a hero that can go to ascended 5 star but is really bad that you could use it for upgrading better heroes but wayyyy later you could use the bad ascended heroes for the extra levels on your crystal but you dont have to worry about that untill wayy later

wanton knoll
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It's hard to explain I barely have a grasp around it but it's becoming abundantly clear at my current stage that ascending fodder was the way to go forward. If I had chosen to ascend non-fodder, I wouldn't have been able to break the 140 level cap as soon as I did, because I just wouldn't have enough copies.

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With the fodder on the crystal, easy 160 cap

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Versus sitting around on Legendary (at 140 cap) because I don't have enough copies to ascend

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Plus the nice bonus with focusing on Fodder to L+ first is you can feed them to the actual heroes you want.

In my case, as soon as I was able to get enough copies of Daimon to L+, I fed him Silvina for quick Mythic

ashen pumice
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Okay now i understood, had to watch a video about it since it hell of confusing. So that's clear and in Resorating Crystal which heros should go into the upper 5 slots and which in that down grid slots?

old token
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I think general consensus from lurking discord is that Daimon and Rowan are okay if you have them instead of fodder

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all other non-fodder heroes should not be touched until you know for sure what you need

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And just to be sure we're on the same page, your upper five slots go on top of this screenshot; the heroes you want to "play with" are manually input in the bottom

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In other words, the only heroes I focus on leveling up are those 5 above; no other heroes have been touched

ashen pumice
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But if i put daimon on top and can't put it in manually on the bottom but i want to play with him then?

old token
ashen pumice
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So the 5 heros i want to level up and FOCUS on, should go up and all the other down that i can choose manually?

old token
# ashen pumice This is mine currently.

yeah that's fine you're not at the E+ level cap yet

You will need fodder to break that level cap since fodder are the only heroes recommended to be ascended (+Daimon and Rowan)

old token
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Until you get to hero level 100, doesn't really matter

ashen pumice
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The faster and earlier i understand will be better for me later on 😄 Let me just see if i have the heros you recommend and i will reset all other heroes except daimon and level up the ones you recommended if i have them ofc

ashen pumice
old token
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I'm saying once everyone reaches their level cap, then reset them and put the levels into fodder which you will focus on moving forward

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right now, your cap is 100 (it takes the lowest teir/level of your five main heroes on the crystal to determine the cap)

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So like of your 5 main heroes, if one of them is only elite, then your cap is 100

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I'm saying once you reach this cap, then reset and switch to focusing on the fodder

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Keep Daimon as is, his cap is 120 right now (he is elite+)

ashen pumice
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Would you be willing to talk in Voice chat? I'm so sorry but i completely don't understand anything now.

old token
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You're going to run into a problem once everyone is Elite+ and level 120

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No I can't I'm at work LOL

ashen pumice
old token
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That's why it's better to wait until you can get to L+ from E+ versus sitting on L

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Also easier to gather the necessary copies to L+ with fodder (versus non-fodder)

ashen pumice
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So Fodders get scended to the hero i will mainly use so that that hero is stronger, is that right?

old token
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this is the TL;DR of this entire conversation LOL

old token
ashen pumice
old token
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By the time you get Daimon and your 4 fodders to Elite+/level 120, if you can't get Daimon to L+, then I would reset him and focus on a 5th fodder

ashen pumice
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We'll talk it over Vc since talking further won't result in helping since since i don't understand it. But i appreciate your effort.

old token
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Haha no worries, just don't ascend anyone past Elite+ until you understand the implications

ashen pumice
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Alright thank you, will make sure. For now Elite+ is the max!

old token
fickle forum
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Idk guys how to keep ainz alive

fast heart
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What?

lime willow
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put nara in and nemora out

fast heart
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Ok did thanks

ashen pumice
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@old token Hi, idk if you are available but should I do this?

old token
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do what

ashen pumice
old token
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yeah E+ is fine

ashen pumice
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Alright thank you!

old token
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dont go any higher unless youre sure what you need/want; if you dont get the necessary copies for your carries your progress might slow down but its SUPER worth it in the long-run

ashen pumice
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Will not, I will go until E+ and I will only then go to L+ for example on Daimon when I know that I have enough copies.

old token
charred magnet
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Any ideas?

jagged pivot
heady egret
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I need some help on this lvl!

random marsh
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Any team ideas for this ?

old token
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@wanton knoll hey just wanted to thank you for earlier for 13-34 brutus+nara worked great isathumbsup

quartz bison
# heady egret

Fusion Ainz with Rosaline, Arthur Daimon Oden Farael Ainz

weak folio
crude ember
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Could I get help with a PvE team

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I'm willing to lvl up whoever I just do t know who to use

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I'm pretty early on in the game (I'm at floor 7-10)

weak folio
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I think u should level only 5 heroes and put the ones u want to use in crystal but I'm not sure so don't believe me

crude ember
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That's the thing, I don't even know who I want too use

weak folio
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Daimon's a good carry

glass warren
# weak folio Daimon's a good carry

Daimon needs a little work mirael is the best carry this early i think daimon can carry when has a bit invested in him and he needs a silas to support him for powerimg through chapters later till he reaches late 20's

glass warren
crude ember
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Alr thanks alot for the help

glass warren
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Use =acension101

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For your wishlist

crude ember
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Oh ok

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Wait hold on I don't really understand the list

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@glass warren

glass warren
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What part of it

crude ember
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Is the list like who I lvl up first. I dont really understand it in general

glass warren
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Its who you want on your wishlist

crude ember
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Wishlist?

glass warren
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In the noble tavern

crude ember
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O

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Do I put whoever is on my team

glass warren
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His mirael is already L he can use it as carry

glass warren
# crude ember Do I put whoever is on my team

The link i post3d for you to read is who you want on the wishlist first till you have 8 copies of each of them then the you along the list till you have 8 copies of all the heroes, its also in order of what you want to ascend your heroes

crude ember
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Oh ok

glass warren
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"Fodder" heroes like mirael can only go to L+ max and you use the "Fodder" heroes to feed your other heroes to eventually reach the acended tier

crude ember
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Ah

glass warren
crude ember
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Alr

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@glass warren thank you very much for you help but last question, is there any order I need to lvl um my characters?

glass warren
crude ember
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So focus mireal

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?

gleaming lance
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PVE team plz (stage 9-24)

ornate hollow
viral estuary
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I need help with this stage

lime willow
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nara opposite of isa, thoran and daimon swap imo

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but nara for pop

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if thoran dies instant put brutus in

viral estuary
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nara?

keen rain
viral estuary
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alr

keen rain
viral estuary
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what does nara do

lime willow
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pull

keen rain
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she pulls the enemy opposite to her and chain ccs

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which can potentially disrupt game-starting casts like eironn pull

lime willow
safe hazel
lime willow
safe hazel
lime willow
weary thistle
zealous hatch
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Oh no its multi teams alr?

ornate hollow
proper folio
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Help please. Can’t seem to get passed this stage.

keen rain
proven bone
#

Good morning guys, I'm new to the game and I wanted some help to form a good team to go up easier in the campaign, can anyone help me?

proper folio
paper minnow
proven bone
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Ok thank you

dark bane
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guys when you can do auto battle camping idlle

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i am 8-4 cant yet

vocal rivet
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Chapter 36 🤣

dark bane
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omg:)ty

jagged pivot
tired jolt
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Need some advice for my line up

topaz condor
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Which 5 here?

cloud nexusBOT
bold plover
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ive stuck for half an hour now any tips?

weak folio
cobalt moth
# bold plover ive stuck for half an hour now any tips?

From the looks of it, you didn't read or didn't follow the beginner's guide. You are leveling a-tier heroes without having 8 copies of them. You can do that with Daimon and Rowan with 4 copies so you can take them to Mythic, but you're dumping fodder into heroes without knowing when you'll have the copies to take them to A. That's going to handicap you very soon. I'd consider resetting all of your a-tier heroes except Daimon. Go with the 4 fodder heroes from the beginner guide pinned to #classic-questions, except for Hogan. Get them to L+ and lvl 160 unless you get 8 copies of someone before that. Make sure your wishlist matches the beginner guide too

safe inlet
#

So I didn't follow the beginner's guide, because at the time that I started this bout, I didn't know about it. This is my second server, and I reached Ch. 16 easily whereas on my first server, I was deadlocked on Chapter 14 with heroes I'd later find out were complete fodder. Is it too late for me for this round? Should I start over?

cobalt moth
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Why suggest ascending to L+ when they don't have the copies to go to A?

weak folio
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I thought I wasn't supposed to ascend her this early cus there's better choices

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Oh

cobalt moth
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How far into the game? Why isn't she even in the top 5 priority heroes for Mauler if she's so OP?

royal stag
cobalt moth
dusky hare
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Hardstuck

cobalt moth
# dusky hare Hardstuck

At that level, it's mostly just about waiting to level your heroes. Also, just based on what I'm seeing, you're setting yourself up for some really sad times ahead. Read the beginner's guides pinned to #classic-questions, especially Phoenix's. Also: =earlygame

cloud nexusBOT
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You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.

(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)

You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.

When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).

Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)

dusky hare
fleet nymph
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can anyone help me make a lineup. im a returning player and dont know the meta heroes or comps

weak folio
proper orchid
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Flora...floradeadeyes

steady cypress
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I'm stuck at chapter 12 and idk what changes i'm gonna do. can someone guide me with the lineups, who to invest or to ascend

stable ember
# steady cypress I'm stuck at chapter 12 and idk what changes i'm gonna do. can someone guide me ...

make sure to read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions , at least the visual guide by Phoenix. They are a wealth of knowledge; If you haven't, try not to make heroes L if you can't take them to L+, but Daimon is one of the rare exceptions to that rule and will be the core of your lineup for a long time. Oden also, although Brutus (the regular version) is a waste being just as good at E. Just something to keep in mind for a general rule.

Line-up will probably be some variation of daimon with Brutus in front of him, oden, and rowan. Perhaps thoran, and lyca can be a good complement if you grab a copy of her.

fair seal
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Is Tasi or Lyca better with Daimon team?

stable ember
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Lyca. Tasi is very mediocre, Lyca's haste is strong.

cobalt moth
stable ember
cobalt moth
# stable ember It takes two E+ fodder that could be used towards an L+ fodder that is then used...

Right, which still means to me that you shouldn't even take a hero past E+ if you don't have the copies to take them to M, at the very least. So, is that advice saying to not even take that hero to L unless you have the fodder to take them to L+ too? Seems to me like once you have the fodder to take them to L, if you have to copies to take them to M or A, go for it while you wait for enough fodder to keep ascending further. What am I missing?

stable ember
cobalt moth
stable ember
cobalt moth
fresh needle
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Hi! Is there anything I can do better at this stage?

cobalt moth
fresh needle
cobalt moth
# fresh needle

Try putting in Solise instead of Arden. She's been pretty good for me if she lasts long enough to ult. Your power deficit isn't terrible, so you stand a chance. You can also try putting Daimon up front. Switch around the order in various ways and see if any of them work better for you. I often find that just by switching the order of the front two or some of the back heroes, it makes a huge difference.

cobalt moth
bold plover
cobalt moth
bold plover
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ok

hollow pond
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Im on chapter 22 atm and have enough resources for my first loan of dimensional heroes.. Who should i get first ?

weary thistle
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Like this

hollow pond
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Ohh, its still locked 9d

weary thistle
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Do you have enough resources?

hollow pond
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Is she better than anyone here ?

weary thistle
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Well I couldn’t tell ya. But I know it’s better to own her, you can always borrow them later

hollow pond
weary thistle
hollow pond
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In just not sure who to replace her with

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Im using daimon and mishka as tank atm

weary thistle
hollow pond
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No, i mean who to replace in my usual line up..

Im using daimon, mishka, racoon, ferael and desira for campaign

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If i want to put joanne in, who should i take out ?

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Sometimes i use lyca to replace either ferael or racoon

weary thistle
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When you progress in campaign, you’ll have to fight more than one team

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So you’ll need multiple good teams

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And when you get to chapter 35, you’ll need 4 good teams

hollow pond
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I see, so for now i should save my resources for jane

weary thistle
trail yarrow
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Who to use for this floor?

weary thistle
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Lol I just passed that floor today

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I got lucky so I couldn’t tell you, but this is what I used

trail yarrow
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I have none of those built elethathink

gaunt quiver
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How do I do this? Fawkes grabs daimon and then the rest of the team dies

pale kettle
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What’s an good team I can make or just who should I focus in leveling?

weak folio
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I'm like 2 blue fodders away from getting antranda to M

barren zealot
weak folio
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Whoops sum1 here told me shes op but it's ok she's not doing bad

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Right thanks

weary thistle
pale kettle
cobalt moth
cloud nexusBOT
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You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.

(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)

You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.

When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).

Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)

lime storm
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Just started recently, been going along and reading the beginner guides. I’m still a bit confused on what to do with my team tho, any suggestions?

proper orchid
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@cloud ridge

cloud ridge
old token
# lime storm Just started recently, been going along and reading the beginner guides. I’m sti...

you're doing great

you'll run into a wall soon at level 120

stay strong and only ascend your fodder

you'll hit another wall at 160 but hopefully by then you'll have better choices as to who to ascend (i'm not there yet myself so perhaps other people will chine in on what to do at 160)

EDIT: realized I didn't answer your question lol at this point just play around with team compositions; it's common to retry tens to hundreds of times as you do campaign

lime storm
lime storm
old token
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What I'm saying is that the L+ fodder at level 160 will be fine for a "relatively" long time

Caveat, most people at that point should probably have a well-developed carry (usually Daimon)

lime storm
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Yea, I’m always curious about how some people at our levels have heroes most would considered to be end game

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Whaling would be a safe bet I’d reckon

old token
lime storm
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Holy hell, then are you ever gonna use that account with something like that?

old token
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Yeah I'm running two now lol

The technically f2p has an awakened talrne and that hero is a bonafide carry (for where I am in the campaign)

For this account no such luck but already spent a little bit x_x

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so i cant just abandon this account lol...

lime storm
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I mean once you get to stargazing, you’re sure to get an awakened talene at some point, so just keep pushing

old token
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Pretty much; not complaining at all

isathumbsup

crude ember
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Sum 1 gave me this team and I'm just making sure if it's good or if it could be better

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I don't mind leveling up anyone if needed

lime willow
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rest can go on crystal

crude ember
lime willow
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you can put those heroes on resonating crystal

crude ember
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Yea ig

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Is the team that I have good or can it be better with what I have

gaunt leaf
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is thane the veiled wind good

plain orbit
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need help with lineups for general content of the game , any recommendations?

weak folio
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Help everyone dies immediately

molten mantle
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I need some helpppp

silent moss
molten mantle
silent moss
molten mantle
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@silent moss

silent moss
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luci
reg brutus
silias
talene
aw ezizh

molten mantle
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Didn't work

silent moss
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how many times did you try it?

molten mantle
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10 so far

silent moss
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give lyca a try rather than talene i didnt see her the first time

molten mantle
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Just git deleted

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Instantly I couldn't have died any faster

silent moss
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i see not having skriath A with 3 furn is whats stopping you

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could try this
luci
brutus
eironn
aw ezizh
lyca

weak folio
silent moss
weak folio
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Damn

plain orbit
molten mantle
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@weak folio I got lucky

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I kepted pulling doubles for almost everyone I had built up

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I pulled like 4 doubles for luci

silent moss
plain orbit
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okay, right now his item is at 20. i’m waiting until i have enough to max it in one go. i also need help with this stage if possible

silent moss
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avoid taking more hero to Legendary and legendary+ i can tell you probably did it to save space but its hindering your Ascention progress to get more hero choice picks

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put duras call on daimon if you havent

plain orbit
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yea, i learned i shouldn’t do that earlier today so i’ve been working on it

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and it is already, i’ll lyk how it goes

silent moss
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that formation is to avoid estrilldas dash if lyca dies doesnt matter since she will give a haste buff for the first 8 seconds of battle regardless of if she dies

plain orbit
silent moss
plain orbit
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okay, thank you

tired jolt
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Help im stuck

winter marsh
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41-8 cheese just aint working 😴

royal stag
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I used this for round 5

winter marsh
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I'll try that

coral trout
winter marsh
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maybe it's bc my ezizh is only L idk

vocal rivet
winter marsh
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not ulting

vocal rivet
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Whats your tank tree at? Might want to increase it for a bit more haste 🤔

winter marsh
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27

vocal rivet
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Damn, upgrade it. I finished it with 77 (and thoran e11/ can be neglected) and kadezh also used 62

plain meteor
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give me a thoran comp plz

vocal rivet
plain meteor
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a all use comp?

vocal rivet
vocal rivet
plain meteor
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grave born tower plz

vocal rivet
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Like I said, name the specific stage, there is no "all use comp" for thoran in any gamemode

plain meteor
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ok 40-4

vocal rivet
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Obv with a similiar level

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Thoran cheese want 180lvl deficit to work properly

plain meteor
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what do you mean?

vocal rivet
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What exactly dont you understand?

viral estuary
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can someone help

barren zealot
# viral estuary can someone help

Tasi is a hard counter to Daimon. I don’t see another carry option in your box though. Silas instead of pop might be better? Probably gonna take a lot of retries though

amber thistle
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I need line up help

viral estuary
barren zealot
winter marsh
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It doesnt work

wooden field
#

Anyone got a Thoran cheese solution for 39-32 with a deficit of around 150? I've tried pretty much everything in afkhelper but nothing's worked for some reason

bold crest
fleet nymph
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is this a good team comp as a beginner (chapter 6)

cobalt moth
# viral estuary can someone help

I invariably use AwEzizh to put Tasi or Nemora to sleep when I'm faced with them. Gives Daimon time to kill them before they ramp up and make him useless.

ashen pumice
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Hello

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I got Rowan and Anasta. On the picture you can see my current build, should I switch any hero to either Rowan or Anasta maybe?

molten mantle
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I need some assistance

cobalt moth
cloud nexusBOT
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You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.

(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)

You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.

When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).

Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)

ashen pumice
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Thank you, but what is RNG?

cobalt moth
# ashen pumice Thank you, but what is RNG?

RNG = Random Number Generator. When we use it as above, it just refers to the random uncertainty of outcomes. So, one person may get 8 copies of Daimon early while another won't get any.

pale kettle
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help >.<

pale kettle
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who do i replace?

molten mantle
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Get you a max luci rate has 30 si and 9 furn

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That always works also replace rowan

pale kettle
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they’re not my heroes, brutus is someone else’s

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no my maulers are very bad i don’t have any

wintry ginkgo
#

New here. Been playing for less than a month. F2P so far. Was wondering if I invested in good heros and if not which ones should I divert my focus to. Thanks

sly thunder
wintry ginkgo
pale kettle
paper minnow
pale kettle
primal mist
cloud nexusBOT
#

You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.

(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)

You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.

When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).

Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)

sly thunder
pale kettle
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yeah but legendary

paper minnow
sly thunder
paper minnow
wintry ginkgo
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Thank you

pale kettle
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i tried it. it doesn’t help

sly thunder
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use this lineup if it doesnt work try replacing lucius with lyca

pale kettle
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i am using that

sly thunder
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if not try using luc team

pale kettle
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im just gonna restart i hate this account

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done so much wrong on it

paper minnow
pale kettle
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yep basically what happens

sly thunder
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do u have the swap scroll

pale kettle
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i used to play 3ish years ago so i invested into them now they seem useless

paper minnow
pale kettle
sly thunder
pale kettle
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why’s that?

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im in S353

paper minnow
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Ur gonna struggle in pvp.

pale kettle
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why?

sly thunder
pale kettle
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so what do i do?

paper minnow
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And pvp is important especially treasure scramble. They give really good rewards.

sly thunder
pale kettle
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i have this account which is server s997

paper minnow
sly thunder
pale kettle
sly thunder
pale kettle
sly thunder
pale kettle
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oh ok

hardy mauve
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want to ask for a comp to push lightbearer tower lycalurk Im at floor one

weak folio
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Brutus is so strong

celest geyser
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Back after a couple year hiatus, spent the last few days catching up and pushing stages. Now I’m stuck at 29-60 after catching up on things and I have hit a brick wall.

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This is pretty much everything I have. I can post by faction if it’s easier, but looking for 29-60 help and any additional advice to catch up on meta!

pale kettle
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Do you guys have some tips for upgrading or making a team

weak folio
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Need help please

pale kettle
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this is my team rn i havent pulled more than one daimon i followed the guide in the pins should i change anything?

dusty briar
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I am stuck on the campaign 9-12 can someone help me to do a team?

ripe dust
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any suggestion?

keen rain
keen rain
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no mythic weapon on fera if possible, rng fear both arden and tasi and see if it works. you can also do daimon front to lucius but i feel like rowan there would be better to cancel lucius ult

paper minnow
paper minnow
paper minnow
paper minnow
wicked charm
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what team should I go for?

paper minnow
hardy mauve
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came to ask for a squad to push lightbearer towerlycalurk ignore rosa for a bit, i dunno why i did that sadira

paper minnow
paper minnow
wicked charm
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is it not important to go for the faction boosts?

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i tried to go for grezhul, daimon, oden, mishka and silas before

winter marsh
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why do some thoran cheese put hendrik in ?

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what's his purpose?

wicked charm
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could daimon, oden, silas, brutus and rowan work?

hardy mauve
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estrildq solo isareyouseirus

paper minnow
weak folio
restive thunder
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forgive me if i am in the wrong channel for this topic, but im gonna set a mini poll here: silas or shemira

context: i am about to ascend one of them to mythical tier

weak folio
restive thunder
hoary harbor
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wat should i go for

celest geyser
vocal rivet
winter marsh
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is 41-20 4th fight possible without zolrath?

royal stag
ripe dust
keen rain
ripe dust
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I see

ripe dust
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any suggestion?

fleet nymph
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what could i replace arden with?

vocal rivet
cobalt moth
# fleet nymph

It looks like your leveling 5 fodder AND Daimon. If so, you should reset one of the fodder (I'd recommend Hogan, cuz he's soft AF). Only level 5 heroes at a time, forever. Everyone else gets leveled through the crystal.

polar hornet
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I know that I messed up a lot in terms of ascension/food since I didn‘t use guides in early game, but I‘m hardstuck for two days now and would love to know how to salvage my situation - stuck on campaign 14-31 mainly. Just can‘t progress at all. Foodwise I‘m pretty close in getting Rowan to Mythic.

fleet nymph
fleet nymph
weak folio
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Stuck here I'm willing to level anyone

pale kettle
vocal rivet
# pale kettle

Check out afkhelper, I bet they have multiple cleara with similiar heroes

pale kettle
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no they dont have it

vocal rivet
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Like wdym... They obv do have it. I remember clearing this chapter a few days ago on my twink and I did it wirh an elite daimon

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Learn how to position/ use heroes properly or you have to ask for every oncoming stage

green ingot
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Any suggestions for this one?

left eagle
earnest obsidian
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Hi, can anyone tell me a burst comp looks like nowadays for pvp (with zolrath mahboy)? Mentioning what the minimum investment should be. thanks !

barren zealot
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There’s also a lorsan variant if someone else has that

fleet nymph
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can anyone help me with this stage?

green ingot
carmine stirrup
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how am i doing? is there anyone who i should start lookin’ at? :^

barren zealot
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Well, and all the ascended to L heroes @green ingot

green ingot
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I worked on who I was given though.... Starting will take forever

fleet nymph
cobalt moth
# fleet nymph

Have you tried switching the heroes around to change the order. Swap Thoran and Daimon and try again. Swap back line around with each combination of the front line. Etc.

cobalt moth
# fleet nymph yeah i have

At your level, honestly, the main way to get past levels is to just keep on dumping resources into your heroes and leveling them up. It's all a power issue that early. You don't have enough heroes to play with nor are any of them built at all the way they need to be to be most effective. So, just keep powering up and you'll clear it in no time

gaunt quiver
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What to use here?

dreamy plaza
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LineUp for 38-48 ? ^^"

inland idol
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Hi someone can help

left eagle
left eagle
left eagle
polar hornet
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Stuck on 14-31 for two days now. I now know that my start wasn‘t good in terms of who I ascended etc, but I went in without a guide and want to stick with this account if possible. Any advise on how to get past this stage?

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I‘m 1 mirael away from getting Rowan to mythic so that might help, but I‘d love to know if there is a team in there that allows me to do it anyway

humble pelican
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Positioning is important. Put the graveborns in front of the lightbearers and the wilder in front of the enemy graveborn. I’m not saying it’ll work every time, but it’s worth a shot

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Other times, all you need to do is wait a few days to get enough resources to level up…

humble pelican
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Soooo… good luck

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@polar hornet

gaunt quiver
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i dont think u should base positioning on faction, swap rowan and daimon or something, rowans a support while daimon can tank damage

pale kettle
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Any way i can beat 29-60?

polar hornet
tight star
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What should be my lineup

thin crest
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Can anyone help i die way too fast

primal mist
cloud nexusBOT
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You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.

(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)

You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.

When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).

Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)

primal mist
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@thin crest let's talk here

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Show a picture of your box pls, so I know who all you have

thin crest
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I made too many mistakes no

primal mist
# thin crest I made too many mistakes no

Not great but salvageable. Do you have any interest in pvp long-term? If so, you're probably better off starting on a new server. If not, then you can keep going and you'll only have lost about a week of concrete progress while you recover

thin crest
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I can start over i guess lol on s1001 i made an acc with awk brutus there

primal mist
thin crest
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I still prioritize rowan, raku, daimon stuff like that right? And ill avoid bringing heroes to L now

primal mist
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Do ascend fodders to L+ using other fodders, like the message says

thin crest
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Is raine good? I pulled 3 copies of her already and I can get another right for free?

primal mist
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Very useful but not worth using that chest on her. Save it for a 4th copy of Daimon/Rowan or an 8th copy of another carry

thin crest
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No I like mean I can get another from peaks of time ?

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Could I focus on her to M later on once I get the free raine? But I wont ascend anyone

polar hornet
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Is elite Brutus really worth using over kalene? she‘s literally the last one alive

Also I tried putting Lyca front row and she just gets instantly killed, is that ok (I assume her haste buff gets applied instantly according to description, right)?

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On epic it‘s only 4s, Kalene stays alive about 20-25

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*on 141 it would be 7s, but I lack the dust for that.

I‘ll try that then, thanks for the advise. Sadly only have 2 daimon while I have 6 shemira and 7 kalene xD

quaint pawn
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Any suggestions?

primal mist
solar summit
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This a good start for the new server? Any lineup suggestions.ima use Daimon as carry, thoran, lyca, Oden,

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I'm not sure who to use as my 5th

solar summit
stable ember
ornate hollow
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Any idea how to do this without AAA or SI30 thoran?

cunning turret
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Currently at 10-12 and barely keeping up, what squad should I be using at this level? Still using daimon carry and brutus tank, was wondering if that's the best lineup I have available

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I assume the one bottom right is brutus? but aight thanks

sly thunder
cunning turret
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is it normal to have everyone but daimon die 30 seconds into the fight?

fast ice
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is anastasa good?

red dust
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Im at 6-22 what team should i use?

solar summit
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Any suggestions for line up?

quaint pawn
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Power capped since there’s a 200+ level difference

dusty briar
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Any suggestions?

surreal tartan
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only to elite+, and legendary+

surreal tartan
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read the guide pls

ripe dust
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any suggestion?

restive thunder
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aight, i have a bit of a pickle here. basically, i have an awakened talene that i had summoned from the noble tavern, which is crazy since idk that would be possible. now after using solise as a trial, im starting to get second thoughts since idk awakened talene’s abilities that well, as i barely used her :/

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also i have eleven time emblems

signal widget
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Any help to get through this stage? Can't use Daimon because I still need one more copy of him 😦

velvet cobalt
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any ideas on how to do this? my daimon is dying instantly

surreal tartan
cobalt moth
wispy hill
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Lmk if that doesn't work

plain orbit
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need 3 teams for pvp, help please?

sour bolt
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maybe try a mishka comp eith astar anf some cc and for second maybe an ainz gb team

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maybe try ainz gb on second

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and wilder team@on first

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lucretia or ainz merc

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try ainz merc

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also yeah ur luc merc is pretty trash u can borrow minr

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129850997

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mmm r1 maybe a bit hard to pull off because of skreg tasi and brutus

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your welcome

hardy mauve
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came to ask for a lineup for this tower lycalurk

sly thunder
hardy mauve
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daimongiggle tysm

pliant pulsar
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Anyone can help me?

wispy hill
wispy hill
plain orbit
pliant pulsar
wispy hill
wispy hill
bold plover
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im hardstuck, help me pls

broken panther
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Pls help me im stick in dismal

dapper dagger
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Is there someone I can replace khazard for? Mehira doesn't matter, only team not winning since I don't have khazard m si30

terse willow
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Hello guys i'm wondering if my comp could be ehanced. Any Idea ?

wispy hill
wispy hill
terse willow
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A bit confused with the different line up proposed

paper minnow
wispy hill
pale kettle
pliant pulsar
pale kettle
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that way you can save dust and hero xp and stuff like that

pliant pulsar
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Yeah I know, but I'm stuck in chapter 10

pale kettle
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just retired your heroes until you have 5 levelled up

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because it’s such a waste of resources