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Yes
thank youuu imma try this later I just need 11 more of those invigorating essence
Can someone help me to make a good team pls
How many? Just 1? Assuming the filled ones are already your first team
Maybe 5pull?
Read the pins in questions
Make Raku +30
Any tips? I’ve tried every little combo I have. Ignore the current setup. It was a desperate attempt
Hard stuck, what could i do to pass this?
Ainz is not so good without 300/303+ Albedo. I’d replace Thoran with lyca and Ainz with Astar maybe?
Whats 300/303+?
She needs a +30 SI and her 3 furniture bonus if you can
So Ainz isn’t a viable comp for you yet
This is working the best so far, but i still cant beat it
Scarlet needs all the haste she can get. Who is doing the most damage on your attempts?
Hello who could help me please I'm stuck at 24-60 pm thank you in advance
Post your hero box in chat
OK
I got it, put awakende ezizh in for astsr
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=24&stage=60
You should definitly look at the guides pinned in #classic-questions
Ok thank you
Ah, yes. He’s a good support too
Stuck again lol
Any tips here? How to deal with flora
What's causing you issues the most? You could probably drop Shemira and put ezizh in to banish fawkes or mirael, or try to add lyca in.
any help for choosing a team?
I've tried adding in lyca, didn't help much and ezizh died before his skill goes off
I deal with her by crying (and leaving auto-battle on for hours, mostly). Honestly, just throw more RNG at it
If Flora ist in Frontline use ukyo
If Flora in Backline use AEzizh opposite Side from Flora and use Zol rath (3f)
Don’t have zolrath
Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
AEzizh doesn’t grab her
So you have a free merc use this week?
fuck off, i just want my fucking team
Oh yeah I do. I’ll try that but she’s back line so ezizh should work right?
Yes, you need a zolrath with 3f for that to work
You need AEzizh + zolratg
Or you can try to thoran cheese it
Gotcha. My thoran cheese blows
If you need one lemme know
any help?
Yes after you read the guides, you know the Meta Champs and how to position your units properly
You havenr even played for 1h+ and come in this discord and demand stuff to be done for you
Any ideas for this one?
Can anyone tell me which ones are the best for leveling?
I tried the zol. Ezizh is not grabbing flora what am I doing wrong
I need help for my main line up for just everything I'm new as you can see and I have no idea who's good with who I just been going with high number mean good
Did you use awakenee ezizh?
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions
Any suggestions?
Is there anything good here?
im newer so I could be wrong but wu kong seems pretty strong from what ive used him his ult is really good cause its hard for him to die since he splits into 4 and that dps is quite good, its clutched me many stages and arena fights so maybe try running him, Im newer so once again I maybe incorrect
youre also able to get him to elite plus easy by buying him at the store under the labyrinth section he was available for me there
Hey, my team consist of Daimon, Rosaline, Silas and brutus, who should i use as a last member?
Try swapping joan and silas positions or use ferael instead of joan
Someone with cc like ferael,oden,gorvo,etc.
Okay thank you!
chp 7 who else should i add to the RC - my team is daimon, silas, kren, hogan, oden
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. Add these heroes in rc rowan and ferael.
Hey I need help figuring out a general team, I feel my team is sold but not optimal I have little knowledge in who's good so I was hoping y'all could help me find a generally good line up that I can use as my main
My line up rn is, Lucius, wukong, thesku, Thali, Rowan is there any real improvements I can make
You're team looks pretty good, if you'll take my opinion, I'm only in chapter 12 but I will say, give saurus a chance, he can be absolutely amazing from my experience
He shields and buffs himself and can do a ton of damage
stuck on 38-48, I win 3 of the battles, the other two are rolls
Ainz Comp and 5 pull are among the win drafts
enemy comp pic pls
be faster if I type it Orthos, Thane , Nara, Grez, Oden 2nd draft is Lucius, Hendrik , Safiya, Belinda, Theowyn
it's a 5 team battle
why luc, thoran not build breh
for 4th battle insead of nara AEzizh and maybe scralet instead of queen or flora
I need help with the last stages of 21, been stuck here for forever. Any formations of hero’s I already have or heroes I should start upgrading would seriously help. Thank you.
honestly raku seem like an ok choice. but then again, he hasnt beaten 24 yet
can i beat this with my level? maybe i should change some heroes?
afk helper ?
why engrave thoran
you need him at e30 at like ch44/45 and so on
yeah but hes on ch35
yea ik thats not needed
I'm a bit stuck
I am not planning anything. That’s why I asked for help, is scarlett a hero you would recommend switching Brutus with? Also what does “si 30 Brutus” mean sorry
Signed item
Scarlett is probably the best hero in the game among normal fractions
So yeah I'd switch him with her, using that red scroll
Okay, appreciate it, thanks
Things like engravings, signed items, are very fkn expensive, before you spend on those ask here
Yeah I should’ve, Brutus was my first mythic so I kind of just went with that, I’ll think about that in the future though, thanks again.
dont engrave him btw you wont be able to switch him
Idek what that means so I probably won’t do that
Not here for help but I wanna say... the amount of health these 2 replenish is insane
once a hero gets at least a star, you'll get the option to engrave them which further enhances their ability and stats. dont do it otherwise you wouldn't be able to swap him
How do I know if it’s engraved or not
should be sent in #classic-chat next time
ty, im too lazy to type
Ah. Gotcha
did you engrave him?
when it doesnt have a star then it's for sure not engraved. if it has a star just check via engrave and see if there's any lv
But I do want to replace Brutus soon sooo. How about that one?
I don’t think so because I don’t have an option to engrave even though it has 2 stars same with Belinda doesn’t have an option to either
how come?
wait, that's weird 
i think its because they are not 240 lvl but im not sure
U need to be ch22 i think
anyways it's prolly not engraved so dont fuck yourself up engraving it
Ch22 unlock engraving shards and engraving to e30
Got it I won’t, thank you all for your help!
4th team for camp (Aezizh is gonna be normal one)?
yeah usually if people use normal ezizh then it should be normal ezizh as he gives energy to teammates every x seconds
i just put Aezizh because i dont have normal one
im not using it, just to show it
4th team should be ainzbedo
it might be scuffed but it should work against the weakest team
or if you have alna at A, it might be possible to split gb and raku
low on fur sadly
and who would be a replacement for rowan? im 30/60 on merlin and im gonna buy ezizh so thats no where close
.
just mix and match
I usually use mortas zaphrael fera alna brutus tasi(used by many players before i think)
so just hope that i get lucky on alna and my gb ig
do you think that this would be possible for now?
probably, if daimon can carry hard. i havent used him in 2-3 chaps so ive got no idea
but any bs team should work against r4
he carried more than your beloved raku sometimes tbh 😂
shut
Can someone help me to make 3 good team pls? I'm back to playing after a few month and I don't know which characters go with which characters
ainzbedo, gb, thoran cheese, wilders(not sure if this is good), raku cc/charm(raku needs si30), luc5p
also cycle comp in pvp
Ty
I'm coming back to the game after more or less a year. What are the meta teams now? I read some of the stuff on faq already. For reference, this is what I had when I stopped playing
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Tyvm!!
i think you should build core heroes =ascension101 and build lucretia 5 pull after that
Priorities for Hero Ascension
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994905429614264360
guys, Im stuck on stage 15-40, It's full of Graveborns and I just can't defeat it (sending my heroes)
Okay, I'll try that, Scarlet is on another 1 of my winning though so idk how that will work, I didn'y build Thoran BC I onmly found out he was good semi-recently, Lucreteia I'm working on RN, I only got her from E to Mythic within the last few months
hello
I'm new to the game, and I'm trying to figure out what heroes I should replace/move in formation
I'm on chapter 6 rn
please ping me if you respond, ty in advance!
#faq-resources has the beginner guide included. you gotta read to understand. that's the shortest and easiest way
no point telling you what to do in this situation if you don't understand what shit's about 
Swap saurus for who?
Saruas is decent early game but will fall off later
Do you have any recommendations if that's the case
This is the line up
Daimon when you start getting them
Where would I get them or just normal summons
Normal summs
Any reason to not use the swap scroll to switch my awakened Brutus to 5 stars by using my normal 5 star Brutus
You can't
I can’t use the swap scroll on an awakens character?
Nope
U can only swap 4f heroes
Well that’s lame. Guess I’ve been holding it for nothing
guys, Im stuck on stage 15-40, It's full of Graveborns and I just can't defeat it (sending my heroes)
Can someone tell me the best team? Please!
Step one, retire all of those commons, they are totally useless
You can do it at the rickety cart
I'd say try shemira, put her in instead of mirael
ty
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I recently got these guys too
Scarlet is a decent hero, mainly used in guild bosses from what I know
Rowan is arguably one of the best lightbearers
You should definitely put rowan to good use
rowan is best support in lb and scarlet is the best dmg dealer in lb
im at chp 37 but i cant get 5 teams working to push further
- luc 5 pull 2. if you have mehira, mehira charm 3. you could build alna gb comp 4. maybe ainz could work? 5. thoran cheese
for the 3. one you need to build some heroes tho
should i gaze for mehira? i dont have her yet
give bedo +30, thoran +30 3f, grez 9f, lucretia 9f
for one copy yeah
ty
and you would want pippa M si20 for thoran cheese
https://afkhelper.nax.is/
This or ingame formations are ur best bet
can someone please make me a 5 man team for Campaign

You are going to want to read the beginner's guides posted in #classic-questions. In particular, I'd recommend Phoenix's guide.
I am stuck at 36-60. Anyone got team ideas?
@proven rock
damn thanks a lot this helps me so much
is there a problem with my lineup?
brutus for staff guy and swap brutus for swords guy
not good with names lol
?
swap brutus in and then out?
no swap him for staff man and put him in front row
Uh ur comp is very weird can u post ur entire box
ABrutus doesn't really have any use there, replace him with oden or ferael. Put Daimon behind Thoran (Or drop Lyca as well for regular brutus and put daimon behind him)
Best daimon team??
assistance kind lads?
There is no one team you can point to in early/mid game- daimon can largely be enabled by things like Rowan for energy boost, Lyca for haste, Brutus for stall, any form of (preferably GB) cc like Oden or Ferael or nara/Aezizh to disrupt specific heroes. But every line-up you face can present different problems that changes what will be more likely to work.
Oh alr any advice with a team for these chars
Too early to even consider Daimon. Read the Beginner guide's pinned in the #classic-questions channel. Generally wu-kong is your primary carry until heroes are 100+.
Oh I see does it really matter what other chars I use
Need a help. Is there any chance to beat this team with available heroes? Maybe I can merc someone to complete it.
idk what kind of comp ur running currently but do u not have ainz? you should seriously consider getting him for some of ur multis
Rosa/silas/arden/lyca
Golus/thoran
Mirael
Daimon
Ferael
That did it, thanks
What kind of compcan i make against dune destroyer
Who should I use for max dmg?
Any improvements i can make here? Comp dies after 1,000,000,000
pretty sure saurus wants si30
scarlet either back mid or front line so she can siphon as much energy
rosa for ezizh
@keen rain any thoughts bud?
do you have nara
Yeah I do, only one copy this far.
put her in crystal
put brutus in crystal too
then replace silas with nara
if it doesnt work, tell me what's happening
Who am I good to remove you think?
slr hodgkin cecilia raine luc and mortas imo, you can put them back if theyre needed for say, tower or twisted realm
Nara and Brutus in the crystal and then nara for Silas who am I replacing for Brutus?
no one, he;s just handy in most stages but i dont see any use for him in this one
but if the lineup doesnt work u cna replace lyca ig
nice
Thanks, I’ve switched back to keep progressing
if u get stuck again u can ask here or use =afkhelper
once you get the gist of what heroes is the counter to what, it should be p easy
Thanks so much.
What should my wilder wishlist look like
mauler u mean. probably kren tidus anasta numisu and someone between Brutus, Warek (TR/CR), Antandra (CR), Thesku (Tower) Granit (high deficit pushing)
what changes to make such that i can pass chpt 15 much easier
why rowan and lyca in front......
rowan can be a dodge tank if he has better gear and such while lyca's job is to give her teammates haste and energy so her dying doesn't change anything much
but yeah rowan front there is a bit weird
put him where
middle back usually
I think you need more frontline options so rowan and lyca can do their job in the back, if rowan is dodge tanking hes probably over geared or leveled, have a lucias or izold, what do you have that we can see is usable
Even just throwing brutus up there in front might help because of his shield, thoran as well since he revives
A nora to cc bel
Can someone help with this stage??
how i can pass this level?
idk if I should be using brutus here, since albedo doesn't get to proc her immunity
I've been on this level for way too long. Outside of mercing a built AwBrutus (which I am trying), any ideas?
Is this decent? I switched daimon awhile ago cuz he kept dying too fast to tank damage
It's not, you can either pic Atalene or Abrutus as a carry then pick 3 supports and 1 tank. Lyca is ok
So i dont need both of them??
so Abrutus is a carry instead of normal being a tank now?
Normal brutus is the tank one, Abrutus is a carry
Uhm, the brutus i have is said to be a warrior, i dont have the brutus tank
Help me build a team
You can try using them both then add 3 supports for backline
Who would be viable for support? If lyca stays, I can put rowan, but he isnt elite+ yet tho
Ohhh okay okay, Ill try this
I actually don't see rest of your heroes
Oh sorry, i missed that part lol
I flora wukong athalia and atelene for celestials, no hypo
You can use rowan/silas as a healer then arden for CC. Make L+ arden next for wilder. He's good until lvl 160
Rowan in middle back
Ohh okay okay, thank you so much for helping
Sure thing
Need help setting 2 teams for the hodgekin fight
good for 3 rewards (last heirloom is medals of reinforcment)
oh nvm you dont have raku
but i think any other dps hero should work
Who'll be my 5th hero, I have Hogan,saurus,Silas, Rowan , chapter 10+
Need help with lineup
What are the 3 strongest lineups for LCT atm?
Need help with my lineup, got daimon , the snake guy, legend+, and the doctor guy, when i swap scarlet and the other one vice versa, it still gets defeat but only 1 enemy left remaining. Any suggestion on heroes? I am on Chapter 11-14
Does the thoran cheese work with this team?
Nope
Throw in random stuff
Thats almost no deficit lol
OK ty
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. The guide will guide u what to do so ur heroes doesnt get stuck at lvl 100 cuz of ascension lvl. U havent made any mistakes yet (which is a good thing) so read the guide to avoid messing up.
u fucked urself over so many times it isnt even funny
Oh my big yikes
try wukong instead of hogan
also youre supposed to level 5 heroes only
I tried that, no luck :(
am I just under leveled?
Guys formation suggestion, stuck in 10-10 , also for tower
Alright thank you
restart the game.
Why
follow guides
I followed the guide maybe bad luck with pulls it seems
No, stop making hero’s legendary
Who do I replace for damion
what are my best teams for ts?
this what im using rn (bedo for brutus ofc)
last two are a mess dont mind
damn ur win rate almost higher than mine
Got good RNG with Farael I guess, was able to clear by replacing Lyca with Brutus and moving around the back line.
Do you have eiron?
Yeah I think he’s only E+
Oke good mine is e+ too
U will have to swap some around
But daimonf will carry if accended and +20 sig
For example
U will clean 1 more chapter probs
you guys can get with him to ch31 
I’m struggling in 21 lol
Mine is 200 rest are 180 that’s probably my problem too
You can get past me in no time
Ill be stuck at 160 for some time probs
U need lyca
Even then
get rowan to 30si asap
Cause ur eiron isnt pulling them
They die instantly
Working on it he’s at 18 or 19
put rowan instead of eironn
Put brutus in front of daimon
Daimon
Brutus
Eiron
Grezull/rowan?
Lyca
rowan wants to be close to daimon for thst potion from si
Eiron is a must have jn the team, that worked for me. If eiron doesnr pull cause cc i put my lyva in
But it in front of daimon then
Eiron insta dies
But does he pull them?
Oooh
There lyca makes the cc hit eiron
I think i was stuck on this too
Ill look on the afk helper
I get close with this formation and team
Does ur daimon die fast?
For this specific instance he’s usually the last one alive
Is rowan able to survive Estrildas burst? 😊 Try putting him opposite
Idk much abt any other hero
But is there someone to protect eiron? So he can pull them?
I do have another tip maybe 😊 level up daimon as much as you can, then get the rest after. He should be able to be 220 right? 😊
I don’t have the necessary mats right now
Guess I’m stuck, I mean he’s ascended so he goes up to 240 but at my current level it’ll take a while before I can level him.
Maybe Silas not sure
I mean if u beat this one u can beat any other level with this tbh
Its just the eiron doesnt pull
why do you want him to use eironn so hard tho? i didnt use him untill i got to chapter 30 and got my lucretia 30si
You cant rickety cart it? 😊
Eiron worked for me
Eironn is super good, but the problem is that he will get alot of dmg after the pull 😊 which is also why 5pull Lucy works so great.
Any other comp didnt work
And his Eironn is only e+
Mine too
what about 1.fera 2. daimon 3. silas 4. rowan 5. nara?
^^
if nara doesnt pull give her eye and if it doesnt work swap rowan and fera
and dont give up on your 1st try there is a lot of rng in this game
Swapping Rowan with fera worked
Only one unit died
Not sure if luck but cleared
arden cc is super annoying so that might have been the problem
Ah.. makes sense just made it to chapter 22
Gz 😊👍
@silent moss
@patent hemlock
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Ive reached the loint of needing to make two teams
Do a standard Ainz Comp of Ainz, Albedo, Arthur, I guess Assasin's Creed dude, and Rowan. The other comp should be a Daimon Comp most likely maybe with Eironn and Lyca for Burst with Fereal? Real question is how are you at Arena 31 and you have no SI 30s?
Also how do u have so many dimensional heroes? If you've played the game that long and have them props to you. If not, you should not be spending time hiring dimensional heroes as those guild coins and other coins should be better used for gear, stones, chests, and hero parts
I took a break for like a year and a half things have changed red chest were really rare back then D:<
Back then things were izold comp, eironn comp, ainz albedo and oden were new
Yo tips? Lucy keeps getting stuck on Brutus
Usually just retry until she outlives his immunity
yeah pray for dodge 
team suggestion? stuck on 15-23 , currently using daimon, scarlet, rowan, rosaline and estrilda
what should my lineup be ?
You can try first 4 and Lyca/Rosa as last one
Lyca's haste is good and can be game changing
sry, here is the stage
tyvm
bro wtf is that box. holy shiet ur so lcuky
ik its insane idk how i got it rofl
3 horsemen of apocalypse early game
Isa, Mira and that mage dude 
Idk if you have Nara or Tasi to eliminate at least one of them instead Rosa
You can use Alna if you don't have brutus 
what do i use
my nara cannot kill isabella
Hai ZW
Nara is not there to kill her
just to cc her
but she pull at the start, how to cc when her ult is on use
You cute today
Also, if you were lucky enough (unlike me) you can use A Ezizh or Athalia too
I think my level is too different, my nara got 1 shot
fr
Ferael
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Flex/cc
Thoran is ass when tanking.
You really think Daimon will survive Khasos and Brutus?
is eorin good
he should, si stat stealing is too op
If you 303e60 or 309e60
i have
Hopefully ferael fear will interrupt the burst.
but idk if i have rc slot
dodge is nonexistent early
holy shit, I passed it. I tried like 10 times
what are some good cc/flexible to use
tysm
Mehira gigachad
23 was pain
ye it is
nope, no luck
nara pulled her to daimon
ur daimon front row?
ye isnt he a tank, i domt really know
Daimon is the squishiest tank ever
So not really
Yes
Falls off late game but until that yes
You'll probably never use him there except in TRift
He's more of dmg than tanking tbh
im thinking of building another tank, should I go for grezhul of thoran
Nah brutus is fine
*or
Grez 209e60 for stonks, Thoran 309 for cheese
But yeah 203 Brutus seems the best imo
earier on prolly arden fera oden nara aezizh
Any tank that is L+ or M or some sht will still get 1-2 shotted
bruhtus best tank 
thoran higher rating makes it tempting to use him as tank
Fr
whats that number
+20 SI, 9f and engraving 60
He dies then makes ur backline vulnerable.
rating is just a number like age
Sl and f , I dont really know :')
arden is good?

he ccs 3 heroes so yeah he's ok
i used him a few times on my alt
he needa level 141 for that
2 heroes then
again, 2 and 3 are just numbers
Upgrade Scarlet to mythic and she will blast your way through campaign
ty
all my tank equipment gone🙂
She's a a support
This kid
Id suggest, just buff up the signiture of your daimon and get him as high lvl as possible at all times 😊 e.g. Having him 180 and the rest 140 is fine 👍
axe throwing guy 2 hit my fareal, and brutus kill daimon while in 7sec immune
That's what I said 
then how
Stuck is you I guess
overall, whats better? Thoran or Grezhul. I need a tank for my team. I cant build Brutus cuz I only have 2 copies of him sadly. But I do have skreg mythic
Grez is the best hero in the game I think and is everywhere
Throan is 1v5 carry for PvE
Thoran is cheaper to build tho
Grezhul is the best, but he needs his furniture and hes too squish early. Get rowan and daimon up and out em frontline 👍
But if you want, brutus should work at e+ too 👍
here's the thing. the answer to the question youre asking would be irrelevant as both of those heroes arent really a tank late game. and you don't 'build' brutus because he works at E, just put him in rc and plop, you have yourself a tank. gear might not even be needed but he wants lv 141
Average Grez comp
Can slot Fera instead Scarlet
And then we have Thoran 
I see, now I know why. wdym by E tho? I dont know the short term that much
Elite only
elite, purple, 1 copy
ohh and rc?
Just put him in crystal and he will work
okie tysm
he wants lv 141 at least for the juicy 7s immunity, anything lower than that he only has 4s immunity but still workable
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what should i do if there is numisu and isabella
Need help to beat this stage
How is everyone getting Talene? I've been playing for a few months and still haven't seen her to get in game or the new brutus arg.
Haha just lucky
help me, they have the bat guy, axe guy and isabella
i would say get rid of rowan, put nara in his place, then move daimon the center and add thoran
what can i do to beat this?
Beyond pure luck, when she came out everyone got one for free for a small event.
Yea I started the game because of an add that is still playing for a free Talene & Wu Kong but the code was expired for her sucks.
Yeah I'm not surprised, codes tend to be very short lived. But she isn't needed for anything really, if that helps. Better off having one aEzizh than her.
what can I do to beat this
@ripe dust how get past 36
nara mvp
put where
I have scarlet also
but urs 157:(
nvm, I passed now
what should i use
I dont think silas or eorin is gonna help. Remove them and put supports/cc instead. Rowan should be enough for the heals.
The whole hero box. When i say supports/cc it doesnt necessarily mean heroes thats roles are literally supports.
Astar. Also if u have ferael or oden add them too. Try:
Lyca/astar
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Astar/ferael/oden/mirael/nara
Any help? I'm new
Use nara instead of rosaline
Swap Atalene and daimon positions.
Also read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions.
New has Atalene 
Hi, I'm a new player, playing since yesterday. Below is my current lineup. I feel like storming through the campaign, but i'm not sure if I don't make any big mistake. What should I focus more on or invest in? What will be good instead of Ira here? I'm thinking some healer or debuff mage
Hello @outer horizon,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
I highly recommend reading the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions. The guide will tell u what to do early, recommended teams, mistakes to avoid, and other useful information.
you were in ch29 yesterday right?
What should i use on 22-56(lucius+tasi comp)
Yeah
nice
where to put nara, daimon and rowan
what team better for me now?
Top, but put nara behind, and rowan front
like this?
@low pond can you try
Scarlet
Hogan
Rowan
Golus
Arden
Ye
my hogan is bad...
Sometimes rng works! Try to play around diff comps
?
so i just want to build a main team, for every level, not only this level
Focus on giving good gears to damage dealers/dps but never upgrade any gear beside my Mythic ones with faction bonus
and why hogan better than wu kong?
You are too early for that imo 😄
For now just keep pushing with whatever better heroes you get with rng for better rewards with more events and in-game features unlocked so you can focus on main team. At least that’s how early game works in this game cause you need too many copies of a same hero to build them
thank you a lot!!
Is your wu kong dying instantly pr not? It depends on that. Hogan should be fine in early games and he wont ascend above Legendary+ tier and you can use him as fodder hero for higher ascension tier heroes even after you have fused others heroes with Hogan so he’s not a waste in that way.
Also keep in mind not to invest much into wu kong, he’s considered the worst cele hero out of all although i think that’s for late game surely but i too didn’t use wu kong at any stages myself lol
oh, okay, so i should remove him out of crystall?
which is the best possible arrangement
@wild tangle
At some point yes
Wukong is fine until later so he’s fine in rc now
nope
Def take him out later though
can i dm you? i have some questions about the game
Ofc fine w me!
thanks!!!
yea i have nara but she kinda weak, even if she pulls she dies after a few hits from issa, then her damage which cause Energy reduction on isabella is useless
isabella also somehow gets a shield, so when daimon ults it has no dmg
where to put rowan and ferael?
how many hours to get enough exp to lvl daimon to 160
oh okay, now i just try my luck, thanks
auto click illegal?
chapter 36 tho
😭
untill then you can download macros
How should i clear this
Probably put daimon backline behind Thoran so he can set up more consistently, could also drop grez for Silas as well since grez is meh without 9f.
oki thanks 😄
Long-term stop ascending heroes to Legendary without having 8 copies of them (or 4 in the cases of Daimon or Rowan)
Got it. Thanks 👍
Short term, drop Lucius, he’s trash. Put in somebody with crowd-control to buy Daimon time
Good to know
(I've already stopped ascending trash heroes)
Should I be stuck here? I’m big stuck lol tried Nara and Brutus for Silas and Lyca
Any help to beat 11-34?
I think I can get Shemira to L+, should I do it now? and still didn't got the extra 2 copies from labyrinth and chapter 15
=earlygame
You ascend fodders to L+ and level them to 160 when you start in the early game.
(In levels 0-100, if you don't get a copy of Daimon early, you should level Wukong to level 100, then reset him and focus on Fodders or Daimon if you have 4 copies of him, otherwise level fodders and put Daimon on crystal. Read the pinned guide for more information and how to get Wukong.)
You do this to see what hero you get the most copies of to eliminate RNG.
This is not to make the mistake of making many heroes L without the copies for L+, essentially just wasting fodder.
Remember, 1 Ascended hero > 40 L heroes. L doesn't give anything worth compared to Ascending a hero fully.
When you're level capped at 160, you take the L+ fodder you build and feed it into an A-tier hero, so you can level to 180.
This is because you need an L+ fodder to take an L+ Ascended tier to M. You need 8/8 copies of a hero to ascend them to A (4 to L+ and 4 to A = 8).
Make sure it's a priority hero, and the one closest to 8/8 copies (Unless Daimon, Rowan & Raku, as long as you have 4/8 copies of those, you do them first as they get their power from their Signature item, which will help a lot in early/mid game).
(+30 Rowan > +30 Raku as your first priorities. Daimon only needs +20 and is a priority over Rowan and Raku.)
read all that and pins in #classic-questions
Bsssss
im fr bro
shemira is defenitly not the way to go avoide her at all costs
Any suggestions? I’ve tried pretty much every configuration I can think of with these heroes.
I’m stuck pls help
any suggestions please?
not having rowan is whats setting you back brutus daimon farael rowan the 4 core heros and then flex lyca aw ezizh and even thoran
put rowan at the top corner, then (idk remember her name) put the fire girl in the middle and swap oden with arden
cant really help since we dont see what your facing but i already know just by the box its prob early ch20s
Definitely. I've got plans to get the next two copies I need to get him to M in the next couple weeks, but he's still sitting at E+ cuz I can't get a copy of him for anything
then honestly dont bother pushing campaign you have plans just wait it out and hopefully youll have the 300 red chests ready in that time as well, when youget him and have those 4 core heros you should honestly push at minium 3 chapters and mayber 4 if you can get some more levels
ty
El esp?
still dying, silvina kills rowan too fast
i mean whoever she jumps on will die like in 1 sec so it has to eb rowan, you can try to switch up your front liners a bit
and the point with this is that arden should be rooting the isabella and mirial need to get an ult of
a bit? on who?
i dont understand you
just switch the position on the front liners
like that?
yea you can try that
also this game is HEAVY rng based so you have to try a lot over and over again before giving up on a formation
it feels like you're not sure of your words yourself
ok?
hmmmm you can also try to put mirial at the bottom and instead of arden put in nara
i mean sure ye but still didnt work, you just gotta try all kinds of formations until it works and if nothing does you just gotta do other things and get better champs
What's my best lineup for max points?
I've only got one copy of Brutus, 6 of Farael, and 2 of Rowan. I've been told so many times that I NEED Rowan at SI 30 that I figured I'd use my next two HCPs on him. Would you suggest anything different? Should I focus my future HCPs on Farael? I feel like Brutus is just out of reach right now with so few copies.
brutus only needs 1 copy your using him for his invinciblity to allow daimon time to ult and fareal works fine at M 103 for a while eventually A on him but yeah rowan is your biggest need at the moment
OK. So, right now the only other hero I have 8 copies of is Silas. I have 4 other ascended, so I was planning on ascending him so I can get the 2 HCP pulls. Then I was going to use 2 of those pulls for Rowan and get him to SI 30 (I didn't see him in the furniture guide, so i was gonna leave him at 300). After that, when I've saved up enough fodder, I'll push Farael to M. I'm already working on furn for Farael. I can use another couple HCP pulls to get Farael to A over the next month and a half if I don't get any other copies of him. Does that sound like a good plan? Or would you recommend something else?
that sounds like a perfect plan to me
Awesome. I really appreciate your help
not a problem at all sounds like you have it all planned out and figured out
I mean, I can't stay with Mirael, and only A tier I can make L+ is her
yes but you can wait a while and just keep doing dailies you dont have any A tier heros worth taking to Mythic at the moment so giving yourself more time to summon should hopefully fix that
if you do decide to take shemira to mythic then you will need to garrison prince of persia and link him to her so then he can be your carry with just his base si
im only giving you that as an option since from the one picture ive seen of your hero box it lacks daimon, raku, and even krens copies the 3 main carries to be able to aid you to ch 30 where as the pop route might take up some of your time but atlaest you would only be using some fodder and not fully commiting to shemira
post your hero box please and thank you
Just like this please and thank you
do you have the artifact duras call yet?
No sir
so lets try dropping hodgkin for lyca and try it like 10 times if its close
alr
your sort of in a rough spot with nothing at legendary and vedan is just absorbing all that damage then healing back up so my thought process is using lycas haste buff to make daimon ult faster
Do I place her front or back
I tried 10 times and they didn’t come that close
Most of the time vedan and the assassin girl are at the end
her haste buff last the 8 seconds regardless of if she is alive or dead
yeah that was what i thought would happen as well
ill double check when you can get the artifact duras call
its unlocked in the peaks of time rest in peace
Oh I forgot I haven’t done peaks of time or tower 
could be worth doing if you can
I cleared it.. and the next stage but now im at a wall this vedan guy is annoying asf
just more tires and keeping daimon alive as long as possible
Does anyone have an awakened thane team that counters Ainz in pvp
Preferably without Zaphrael but I’ll take any
maybe athane invade/cycle .-.
Maybe daimon luc rowan silas fereal?
how:(
Silvina will go after the weakest support, which will be your rowan since they are the only support
I think Nara can pull her back?
Help? Frontline dies too fast that the back line doesn't have time to deal out enough damage
try rowan brutus frontline and how do u have atalene at M
dont give brutus gear so he doesnt get knocked back
is it rng or did u spend?
A bit of both, I spend but not a lot, only buy if I see something really worth it and I got spare cash lol
ohh i see
It worked thanks, if I knew gearless Brutus didn't have no knock back I'd use it a lot more
not always like that. sometimes u give him too much gear that he doesnt get immune on first hit. so u want him to get immunity on impact so he wont get cc'd
Any idea how I can beat this second team?
Nvm it worked after I swapped lyca for mishka
Any idea to beat yhis?
someone help?
Tips?
Anyone know how to beat this stage? And no NOTHING on afkhelper actually helps and my level too high for thoran cheese to work...
That’s an awful one with flora and Eluard. Put Eluard at the top of my s*** list. Took me quite a long time, used Thoran iirc
It's truly awful. Times I got close was when Flora came down but Thoran dies before he can ult the second time. The Lucy comp failed because of Eluard's stupid sheilds. By far this is the worst level I've ever encountered. 
What should my brothers team be (Talene and damion already on RC)
Show the beginner guides to ur brother. For team just have daimon,3 supports/cc, and 1 tank.
lol. daimon is dps/tank/self healer. nothing more broken than that. you could put in Brutus up front to absorb damage
Stuck on 32-36 but overall team suggestions for the chapter wouldnt hurt either
Need help on 33-12
post your heros and the stage
O k
So first team is graveborn team (beat)
Second team is raku charm (beat)
Third team is a problem
so try a 5p with scarlett if yhour brutus is free use him
So backline eironn skriath scarlet
Brutus ain’t free
so then thoran front row and then maybe a lyca if shes free if not even aw talene might help
Won’t work
whats the issue? dying to fast or not enough dps?
do you have red emblem chest avaliable?
Hold on it’s really close lemme do a couple retries
@silent moss I have about 36, I've been working on bedo
i see i see, well if your doing her then i imagine thats fine ideally you should do luci to 30 and try to get skirath to A with 3f so then you can use luci5p
Ok it worked but slight problem, I was using aw talene in graveborn team so now I’m having trouble beating team 2
Luci is still m, but shes definitely next. Skriath doesn't like being pulled much lol but he's on the list
well use your monthly select summons and even misty valley on him then after him is raku to A so he can get his 30si and 3f so you can make a charm comp with mehira \
i see, do you have reg talene?
Yeah
do you have rowan?
try that just give athalia something to hit and buy time
I tried that but she legit gets boomed by athalia instantly
Already in raku charm
Gotha, grabbing a mehira after a luc
yes but aw talene did as well and if you didnt use brutus in charm he would be in the second team to buy time
Holy shit
do you have anyone that can replace rowan or is he required
It worked lmfao
Yes rowanneeded in raku charm
nice
nice nice 
yes
sounds good even just getting a single mehira copy will work for charm comp
Does Skriath need +30 as well?
nope just 3 furn
Yo can you legit just carry me through chapter 33 lol
1/3 down, should definitely have 3 by the time he gets to A
yeah for sure
im trying to get through 41 atm 😅
How is a guy like you with so much knowledge only at 41?
im having a hard time beating 36-60 but i cant send all the screenshots here
i got a bunch of knoledge from a guy who was chapter 37
now hes chapter 40
Also can I join your guild 😄
The guild I joined died and I get Soren like once a week
its just a time thing since i work i dont have as much time to do attempts and pushing at a 200 def just takes time
Ohh ok
yeah ill free up a slot who hasnt been on in a while leave the guild your in and then ill open it up in an hour so you can join for now need to do some things so ill tag you in questions
Alr
Well I’ll be getting off in like 2 minutes
then we can do it tomorrow or whenever
Alright sounds good.
You guys think this is good team to start out?
what other people do you have
Who should I have one resonating crystal slot open, who should I add?
Any idea why this thoran is not working (39-56), been on auto for hours without success and I just copied from other teams line ups 😦
porbably shemira
how many furn do you have on him
9/9
how fast is everyone else dying
Round 2 ?
Yes
Relatively quickly, I’ve seen tries where he últs twice or so
have you tried a mehira comp there
I use mehira in team 1)
nvm let @royal stag take care of it he has more experience
Will try!
or she
grats on apprentice supporter
Thx
personally i would go safiya instead of arlin
arlin? you mean the oldman mage
ya
and maybe go estrilda instead of hogan
better than brutus?
lol i already lvl'd up him
in some situations yes
Is it ok if my mez is lv1 e+?
Yes
would you recommend lvling supports or just leave them ar certain lvl?
Ok, so far no success but will leave it on auto for a while
Give Kelthur T3 gear from someone else
make sure to keep supports at a decent lvl, i decided to keep them at an even lvl so my guys on the resonating crystal were also at that lvl but you do you
Ok!
maybe i'll unlock their third skill then stop
ok
i’m using daimon rosa rowan mortas and haelus and it feels alright but i feel like i could switch haelus for someone else or maybe just change it up entirely
you could go odin instead of haelus or swap haelus with grzuel and put rowan back
oh damn oden does feel a lot better, thank you
Chapter 38, need 5 teams and my current lineups can't do shit, help please?
Feel free to dm if you want
will this work? trying to target mirael and isabella at the same time
You don't need Brutus there to tank Isa if you're going to hook her
Use him to tank Mirael maybe?
who to put for nara to pull in 1.
try rowan, gove good gear to him too
yeah worked on my first try ty!
Sht if only i have luc A then this would be an easy clear.
The problem is thane survives then solos my luc and since i dont have luc A he'll just ult and kill her.
maybe safiya?
try someone else slot 2. twins contribute twice to si but maybe u just need barricade to make luc survive
btw what does Atalene do in your thoran cheese clears?
Oof r3 was very rng so i dont want to quit just to put safiya in the crystal.
Alright ill try
click formations, click someone's pfp, message, then boom you're out of rhe atage but can still continue
sec let me do it to demonstrate

you can do that???
Fuck i already used brutus in r1
I was supposed to do thoran cheese here but thoran is not dealing shit or not able to ult at all.
@paper minnow @lime willow
just dont alter the gears or shit of winning stage heroes or some error may occur i think
tf my spotify song is playing
do u have atalene?
Yea
put her with barricade. barricade still procs when she's in her weird form
Woah i didnt know u can do that
Ohh lemme try
Yey

if those stages are low rng maybe retry but waistband on some heroes? since barricade on multiple heroes share same cd
or try safiya/upgrade barricade
thats super smart
btw i fell in love with raku too
irresistible
shouldnt i link tasi here?
if thoran is being thrown to the lower part then safiya should have the link. rng tasi blink works
oh okay
so how should the arrangement be?
try 1. brutus 2. that new guy 3. rowan 4. daimon 5. nara
if that doesnt work swap rowan and daimon around
Safiya + twins worked lmao but it took some retries that my game just crashed and i have to beat r1 and r3 again.
das unfortunate
-16 and -44 is quite an ass
oh and also, ch36 is a copy of ch35 so yeah
meh ig thats not too bad?
also -48 is double flora stage
tho i didnt suffer because i gave up before even started, used merc 
but its still flora vs thoran prob
alright thanks
i think thats the best lineup possible alr, maybe my level should be higher
if you get rowan to M +20/30 you should be alright
^^
is the tavern bargain the only way to get amplifying toekn
you can get them from store, afk and some other things
@keen rain is 35-12 high rng?
not for me ig 
try 1. pop 2. thoran 3. daimon 4. silas 5. oden
How do i build my campaign team
Read the pinned beginner guides in #classic-questions.
would this be level problem?
What lineup should i use for chapter 10?
first 3 team stage.
used full gb for r1, luc 5p for r3.
I don't really know what to use for r2. thoran, charm and ainzbedo all don't seem to cut it
Have u tried charm in r1 then gb in r2? This is what i did:
I'll give it a try
you need 3 dims
arthur in 4 days
wait 4 days then to push
if your luc is strong use her at 2nd round
charm r1 isn't dealing enough damage @paper minnow
guess I'll wait for arthur
M+30 no t3, will def not work
did you try it
I could barely clear r3 with her
Rip r1 was hard have to manual it so lyca ult cancels water dudes ult. Kren was also there for the stuns.
Please show the comp screen
think this is what I used
lyca doesn't even get to ult
Tried safiya in back?
did safiya get her piramid
oh yea I had to have her backline. no pyramid when front row
with that you should be fine r2 i think
nope. luc doesn't even get her first ult off
this stage isn't really a problem. I just need to get charm to work on either r1 or r2
Probably needs some engravings
raku is e30
And furn but ik they are hard to get
Oh i was replying for you Lucretia survivability
ohh. first she needs more copies to even get to A or 1* for furn and engravings
If she’s dying before ulting
You may try with Brutus frontline with Barricade (if you've unlocked it), he can help to counter Mirael burst
Try both slots 1 & 2 and see what works best
already cleared it, but I appreciate the help
Is this a good team to work with?
Personally I'd use scarlet instead of wu
Front does too fast
read the pins in #classic-questions
i decided to use thoran to counter mirael with his "taint" skill but isabella is still a problem. Whenever isabella is left and i am very close to killing her, she always ults. Any advice?
Priorities for Stargazing
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994913771598389318
do you have nara or anyone like her
i wanna get another hire that’s better for guild hunt but i don’t know who to choose
Gonna depend on your box, but most likely Scarlet as she is the primary boss damage dealer now.
unfortunately i dont see a scarlet
Need some help here. I am currently chapter 18-13 cant move on, always getting destroyed.
any lineup tips?
Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
also we dont know what 18-13 is..
so send the stage pls 🙂
I would put Ira instead of Grezhul perhaps swap frontliners too
- Scarlet middle back
Not sure what Shemira does here, but as she's Mythic lv180 perhaps she's worth keeping in the lineup
Need some help on lineup and who should I build next
Need a lineup thats hopefully able to get me to chapter 12
Pull arden with Nara
probably instead Joan or Silas
Ok ty
Best line up for pve early game, stuck at chapter 7
Best line up for pve (im at 7-36) i go a few supporter from the list but dont know which one fit in a team together
You need to revert your L Shemira since you already have one at L+. And stop making L heroes. Wait until you have 8 copies to start ascending
Ok
Any idea how to beat this with my units? Ainz is linked to thoran
I'd probably be trying Oden in over Eironn, rosa or Silas over Numisu. I don't see Eironn getting much value there.
Thanks. I will give it some tries 😊
i know i ascended eironn too early i have learned from my mistakes but am i doing this right? i have 5 fodder levelled and the rest that i use on the rc
or should i be levelling the ones i use and not levelling the fodder people?
Who do I want to focus on getting to 9f now? Mishka?
yeah\
Eironn isn't actually a bad choice. A lot of people use him endgame in a comp known as 5-pull that's not bad. Eironn comp is actually my main comp when I'm not in multi battles
Yes ur doing it right.
oh cool thanks yall
mishka/scarlet/lucy
Is a full GB (daimon/grez/oden/ silas/ ferael) line up better than daimon/grez/rowan/mishka 309 e30/oden for general campaign/TR/tower?
Hello! I start the game and i don't know which take in my team
Read the beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
=geardrop
When is Mythic Gear available?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912508286615642
any tips to pass this? the golus is a menace 10-21
first of all look at phoenix guide in the pinned section in the #classic-questions chat and then also put daimon in your rc and fit replace oden with him and silas instead of raku
So ive been trying to cheese this stage and each time i fail antandra/saveas/athalia survives at the end. Is it because they're dodging the dmg? Is there something i can do to "prevent" them from dodging?
I'm not sure if Thoran works without +30 to be honest
and generally cheesing heroes with high dodge or immunity like warek is hard 
Well it was kind of working. But the ones ive mentioned doesnt die.
Warek gets tainted so usually dies first.
https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/33-52_1646274863.webp like I said, +30 for Thoran and some adjusting 
Im gonna try that. Thx
Any tips to pass this?
try swapping rowan and atalene, swap atalene and daimon, then replace atalene with fera
Thanks I'll try it out
luc pos 3 skriath pos 1 then slot thoran(with barricade) and a random hero
Should something be changed for me to break my top 6-8% streak
gbs
mishka estrilda lyca scarlet rosa/raine
luc 5p/split it
raku cc w atalene
ainzbedo
not really good at making teams, might want to ask in #treasure-scramble instead
Didn’t realize there was a channel for it lol thanks
can someone help me
Put mireal behind thoran
will do

