#classic-questions
1 messages · Page 348 of 1
should get to ch16 in like a day and a half
thats ez
bro why so many accounts XD
i could be running 4 rn
wtf lol
and u have to do stupid kasumi's shit too, bro you should free yourself
oh i dont
he passed all that off to koyo
w, no need to be an unpaid intern
all that for a merc 
😭
Can you test hybris first built awaken
egg roll doing that already
Oh what are you testing?
misfortis second
there's actually nothing to do egg roll is already doing everything
Oh im gonna do both hybris first and misfortis 2nd or 3rd on new acc

i think its a valid choice
ill probably do both too ngl there's nothing else to test thats not already done
Knox selene fatty or fatty selene
i guess fiddling with si40s is also a thing you can do
if its very TS focused then what would new sg prio be hypothetically
im doing knox fatty aure
Is icariel worth on new acc as second
like alvida first si40, icariel first si40
knox > selene > misfortis > alna probably
alvida si40 is the best one for TS i heard
like if we only focus on ts and don't care about any other mode that's probably it
actually alna could probably move to second over selene
thank you, also can you explain selene (just so i understand)
like the value of selene
is icariel that good wtf
she carries really well in early ts and campaign later on she's more of a daemia sub in a lot of ts teams
oh okay
Prob wont do icariel gonna do either hybris or knox first
i dont like knox si40 ngl I shouldn't have done it on my main i regret that
Is it not worth?
Stupid time... another 3 sec and it should be a win
i committed too hard and went si30 knox
so whats the reasoning for knox si40, they dont explain in the guide, is it for seal better carry or
60% damage increase to the whole team including pet
surely doing a 4f celerity +40 first wouldnt brick the account 
so yeah it ofc helps seal in ts
but this isnt for TS right, i thought its mainly for NC
knox 40 is good for everywhere he's used
i lwk just wouldn't do it first because of hybris
hes good everywhere
yo why are randomly generated teams getting better win rates then the ones i made wtf
it's because you suck and keep trying to make teams that make sense probably
Is rem with 9f still good on new acc?
you gotta just do random shit and put 1 carry in every team past 6t
if i do have alvida in TS, its best to pair her with fawkes right?
like huhhhh ????
well she's kinda just deadweight since she dies instantly
i mean hybris is front line but still
really? what about using tamrus instead of her, i have shuna linked to tamrus
well if they're linked don't use tamrus
shuna too important to be removing for tamrus
like relinking shuna to alvida and adding tarmus basically sorry fo rthe wording
oh fuck off gg without auto
ur right, ts is kinda fun to do but i know im gonna get like 2 bait and 12 gold emblems
forgot yo yuahe to do thus
hahahaha i hate that, this is embarassing but i still have to unlock auto on gg
im gonna do that, but i hate doing it so i havent focussed on it
?? colls are so important what
yeah my bad, i was doing peaks of time and i procrastinated
💔
blasphemy
u would do peaks of shit over gg runs ?
IM SORRY im sorry ill do it now 🥺
good boy
good goy
bro
Wow stage 11 is rigged
ts the guy who made hbs btw
If you don't pay for the perk you're stuck with the shitty R gun
is lilith funding the idf xdddd

nihi sucks
hat sucks
wow
39 orders of egg rolls
@inner olivedont support em
why was m30 khazard so good back in the day
like now reading his +30 description it kinda just seems shit
increases cc duration so shit like mehira charm would be perma
oh
now we just have prf on colls lmao
Sometimes, that 1 extra second of freeze, is a lifesaver
the game was more focused on campaign back then so thats all he ever was good for
i use him alot
Stage 11 was not fun to get star
In fact you could still use him with Mehira teams to make her ult more reliable, but I guess new dim girl is coming
Had to turn off autoaim
three stars?
The shooting event
Without the bounty your weapon sucks so much, may as well cheese it by staying on bottom
yeah it has issues
lemme try
Just had to go slow
is it doable on pc xdd
And dodge everything
ayo
btw how does the elthara khazard comp work in nc
Yes the emulator just add a button if you're not using bluestacks or something which already has AFK keys configured, 4 is right on the jump
theres an elthara khazard comp ?
Unfortunately the movement is clunky and must drag
oh nice
@astral whale wait were you there during illusory journey
In Contra, it was actually decent. Better than the Ring and Laser.
In here, R is just a nudge above the basic weapon. Literally useless 
which event is that i cant remember by the name
Like, bounty gave you the upgraded R which is, surprisingly good and actual proper machien gun
the new version of campaign where you could only use old heroes
oh nah
#illusory-journey find screenshots here
damnnn you missed out hard it was so fun
Not really, a lot of the old heroes are off limits anyway, it's a subset so at the end of the day you're still fuming over lack of Scarlet
oh shit that looks fun as hell
Also the skill upgrade mechanic is shit
Nara was completely useless at the start because hur durr no pull hook until she's like L+
Where's this mode?
it's gone

It's long gone now, never coming back because too popular
it was in january and never came back
What rewards it give
fun and enjoyment
From memory one of the hero skins, 20ish DI, a lot of other freebies
in r6
Lots of diamonds too
what time does it get ?
67s
im genuinely curious tho might be hidden op
nah 25 max
Why settle for 25s when you can get half of that or even sub 10
Aren't you in TS
Yea but im in the casual one
u in desert ?
We got fucked over by like 5 big guilds
Yea grumbles in that one
wtf it got kicked from fire ?
Maybe I thought It was always in deseert
Don't you only get DI from like... Getting at least tier 9
You get di from personal results no?
nope it was fire
I got those
Oh yeah so if Hat got nothing then it must be way too slack
Idgaf abt the furn card i get one every week anyways
Damn bro got the boots
Buddy im one of the founders of ts why would I join radiant
severin stop gooning to people in your goon cave
wait fr?
Yea i never took leadership roles tho
die nihi
Nihi die die die

Are you in same branch as Hat
@inner olive U should join the main one, heard they won the T10 at the end
Radiant be poaching people left and right 
uh 11 is easy as fuck idk what y'all on about
oh maybe you're trying to go for flawless clears
Fimnaly pulled her do I get an 2nd one or the other one I was told to get?
just save
wdym other one
no one
K
I still have 39 dragon cards I still save?
Yes save like at least 600 or something like that
save
Why so many?
so u can get fully built hb
Ok
=guide
Also forgot to ask do I just keep randle as stargazing character?
bruh even with flawless clear 11 is easy as fuck
This shit whispering to me like the green goblin mask
no =sgprio
Stargazing Priorities:
When s1195
never stargaze for 4f heroes
Ok
Can someone explain to me why it is recommended to get one copy of Lysander once you have Knox A+ ?
One copy Hybris
What di they look like?
Legend hybris 
Why you still in ch17
Oh I forgot to change
Its the woke hypo in aizam's screen above ⬆️

Purple r gun is shit yea
But you can just parkour thru the whole stage tho just ignore the enemies
i passed 11 flawless first try i think or in my first 2 tries
Ty
I legit just ran thru them without even killing them who gives af abt guild contribution 
bro the rank plate
Fuck im close im so close im so close fuhhhh
Should i pull one hybris? I have 1afawkess and 340TE
Xd
Is she a star gaze hero because she's not a draco
👋
oh it's an awakened hero
here
Prolly save till 500 cause I think next woke is coming after his ship leaves
Ooooh
in dragons apart from elthara nobody else to pull 1 copy of
Oh wait u said 1 copy hmmm
Okay thanks
Idk youre not in early game anymore are you?
Why do I only pull 1 of her and not get her mythic to get the relic?
chapter 35-16
other dragons are better to build before her because she works well for a long time at 1 copy
Oh wtf how do you have afawkes built then
he meant he has 1 copy of a fawkes and 340 te
Oh bruh
I meant 1 copy xD
So I place her on resonating crystal?
if your rc level is above 140 yes cuz that's the max she can be leveled to at 1 copy
Depends on whether youre struggling with 4 teams or not in campaign, if i were you I would just save till 460 te and just fully build afawkes
Ok ty
don't listen to that egg guy, he's not trustworthy
I can ask questions here yes?
But even if you were idk if its worth it to delay afawkes
Alr buddy
BALRIGHT
Balls
What to build next ?
Okay, for now i have some problems with 4 Teams. But still im gonna wait for afawkes

Holy rare 2019 account
who is this random
The best f2p player in the game
how does one achieve this
does proxy know about ts 🥀
egg? known scammer, once pushed my grandma to the floor for a penny, lied to tourists on multiple occasions when giving them directions etc...
i find it hilarious that you thought I wasn't talking about you
cuz i'm no random 💁♀️
you talk once every 2 lightyears

LMAO
what is this comeback

Nino used to go to war in questions
how many msgs do i even have in here, not that many compared to like JD and dragon lol
Check your rank
23k 
I been farming questions like crazy
25k
🤣
Wait how do you check that
u random
you had a 1.5y hiatus tho lol
Hey ! Can you guys help me please, I really feel like my Rem/Shuna team is really weak and I don't really understand why
on pc only you can
Eh cba
cuz its not a proper team
18k 🤏
In campaign ?
It isn't ? It is adviced in the guide
Yeah, stage 35-52 rn
Dw ill beat you soon
in =earlymulti ? that team mostly relies on alvida ngl
if alvida doesn't tank a bunch rem does nothing
Aaah, shit I barely dropped her so mine kinda sucks
I don't think FS is even my afk server with the most msgs
so yeah OS definitely is on the lower side and easily beatable
Alvida lowkey carrying my t4
Nihi?
Hmm, I should get focused on getting Alvida I guess then
thoughts on my teams guys? 
you sucker you need to stop sucking
Lowkey bro just let the game set teams for you

It's doing a better job than me
it does?
Yea just leave your teams blank
Then you'll get matched up against bot accounts
Free elo
fck, now that I set them, I can't remove all
he also has si40 vida
what is this account bruh he si40 elth before sion si40 envy and fawkes
Hidden tech
I think campaign might be the hardest thing in the game lowkey
lmao guite =guide
how to use the bot

=guide
check pins for all commands
You doing this just to kill time atp
bro I stg they strong asl
look at this
isabella is the only issue here
I hate that pos vedan bro
Help?
uhhhh =restarting
I spend money
Level up your heroes
uhhhh chargeback
omg egg
To long ago
we back?
fuck
To lvl 69 specifically
=newserver
Regarding when new servers come out: We don't know. There's no fixed schedule, they just come out when they do, but it's roughly 1 per week-ish 
Bro thought he could dress up and not catch the attention of kingfrost😭
Huge
nvm can't use it not enough L+
💔
6k dust for lvl 160 wth
hi king nasir
=restarting
balright bud
wait what Ricky is woutorro
yeah
bro actually managed to hide
Off I go
what a bitch

giving bad reputation to ts smh
naaaaaaaaaaaaah

same wr 
But im 8% 
Where did he get this frame, he's on my server but he's the only one with it

I think it's GF frame
Ah : /
but not sure
I couldn't do our gf but we came first 
Slowly moving towards 7t 
how flexible is knox or should he really only be used with seal in TS
=unlock
When Does X Unlock?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1076492667065745459

Build Severin, Elthara or Odysseus ? t50 TS, t150 NC (with ody merc and sev trial), mid CR, and I have hoarded leaves and can build any woke pet.
💔
yea
Ye pony good
knox si40 increases its damage and it also increases its own damage the more it ults
Im gonna be hard stuck in ch36 bruh 💔
hybris m30
That mf already carrying a team at L what would M30 change 
if you're using any supports with him you can remove them
Like he just beat 2 flora stages at L 
he basically works solo with like 4 e heroes
Hmm ig
Hello my rc is still at 140 should I ascend some of my heroes now to mythic to push it to 180?
lets goo you can finally take a break
we should celebrate
Maybe going hybris first isn't the most optimal for campaign progress but eh

Hi myu
Depends if you have the copies or not
I'm thinking taking palmer and gorrenn to mythic (gorren - 6 copies, planet 7 copies ) and my Mira which has 10 copies
Yea you can do those
planet
Planet
dude stop reading my mind
I be in the future

Selene somehow has 12% higher wr than jerome 
brother I ask many times yet I see no 40960 selene, brother i can assure you, if there is no 40960 selene, there will be no next time, capiche boy ? 🗿🍷
SHADAB
mira
dont take flanking, be dps
Bro mira is heavily underrated

I know my place 
What supreme leader wants supreme leader gets
learn how to dps to beat solo easier
Huge
Yes supreme leader

im speedrunning ch41 wtf it's so easy
this is what I just cleared 41-44 with
afawkes 30030 is insane
i have e60 but it's a stat thing only it doesn't actually do anything
Hmm maybe I can try elthara as a standalone team
is it not already 💀
She barely works without ivan tho
incorrect
atheus lyca elth shuna tamrus try this
gorok > lyca if you need more survivability
I use that one but its way too finicky cause I be spreading my supports out way too thin
get eluard out of here man this is gonna be hell
Hybris team is stacked cause hes vs flora
But like elthara shouldn't be struggling against the last team 
why does tasi not banish flora here don't tell me eluard has more atk
fuck off cecilia has more atk
Shes untargetable when she jumps up
no i can get her to stay down for a bit till tasi can banish, but she banishes cecilia
Wouldn't cover fuck with that ?like how gorok targets a different hero
uh no because when tasi activates the banish skill, flora is targetable and on the floor
then goes back up after tasi banishes wrong person
Hmm then ig her att is lower
yea
Wait how is your tasi surviving long enough to banish
selene 5 second stun
and flight
oh wait ur rc is probably too low to have unlocked that
it is a base kit thing but unlocks with level
it's level 3 skill of this idk when it unlocks
yea must be it
with 4x it looks like 1s
why does flora bird keep cave diving in my fawkes asshole
Daily 2x epic emblems in bounty board is unlocked on lvl 7 or 8?
I think its the last level
Hi guys 
is this up to date?
Sup dude I heard someone's fawkes asshole is getting doved in by floras bird
Yea
ty
So still far away
this thing takes too much time for upgrading
Think u just got unlucky
it isn't luck based
It is
Im also 1190 and finished it today
i mean a little bit but it's mostly fixed
Got stuck on the epic bounties lvl 5 or 6
Bro fuck thats shit I completely forgot abt it
Lvl 7 or lvl 8?
Don't f2ps take like half a year to finish that
8
Yea imma buy a monthly fuck that
you can't even whale for it
For some reason ascended bounties count as legendary bounties
2 months
Yes u can
now we're just lying
Hi 69420 orders of eggs
Tf. Why I'm that far behind. How much it needs for lvl 8?
to bounty lvl 8 ?

Im psure 5 to 6 took the longest cause rare bounties clogged up the rng and afterwards it was quite fast
Just get the subscription it doubles the speed
Also while ur stuck, it still progresses for future unlocks
They need to rework this bs
?
when the new dim comes don't we get tons of chests?
to get guild coins or challenger coins
If you can perma merc a sev, might as well build Ody.
You would need them to get dim hero unless you are buying hero with $

u free for multi bud
Im going to sleep soon 💔
wait wts is ur sleep schedule
We cant start a run without ulrich can we ?
Uhhhh xddd
ping em ig or add me on steam
ur timezone is a lil off usual 
Sure ill ping u
Just a bit off 
Oh so Sev is top meta already ?
Is this your main one
yes
Afaik r6 nc only
I'll just keep enough for the dim hero then spend ALL on challenger
Oke
Ehhh for now ig
Once that boss leaves hes shelved
but not in ts
Im looking for an active guild
Even all chests on challenger coins does not sound as that much as I hoped it is
I hoped it would be more
I would skip him ngl
it's a few hundred thousand, it's really nice
Funny. It should be older than my by some time. And I have never had that monthly thing for +1 quest
hello, do I rather start classic over companion?
Try looking in #guilds
yes
I mean it's 3-4 alna copies so it indeed nice but still a lot more needed
whichever you like more, classic has more things to do in it and is probs more fun
we gotta be grateful, it's quite nice lowkey
I was thinking so aswell, I saw alot of heroes missing in companions, what exactly is the point of it?
also I wonder I played long time ago, but I cant seem to find my account anymore (maybe a different server?) is there a way lilith support could help me in this regard?
but I understand what you mean
the game starts you in companions so if you can't find your account that might be a cause
No point in. Just start a new one
no point in = hopeless? I had a 36/36 furniture talene :((
💀
pretty sure I checked both
Uhh. You would not be able to be competitive in most cases.
Read =restarting
logged into the wrong account maybe
try another email or logging in through facebook
I think I cant be competetive either way
yeah I quit about the time awakened heroes became a thing
and I was a bit salty I did giga waifumaxxing on talene and then Atalene released 😔
if you don't mind playing casually that's also okay, you don't have to restart
was atalene ever even good i forgot
yeah I just somehow cant login into my old account sadly
do you have the email
I have only 2 emails I realisticly used, and on both I couldnt find it
Good enough for first Gen woke ig, asol whane wutus baden were all way better
it could be on a different server in the account, if it made you start on like the starting chapter
I whaled walene on my first account 
I just used redemption codes, and I can see you see all server on the menu, so I did just now to check
btw is there somewhere here a beginners tutorial or so? even though I played long ago I dont want to fk up my resources
(also how to get those dragon faction units?)
Heh
Yea read the pinned guide
Dragons are really hard to build for beginners so dw about it for now
Sev only NC R6, thats why only merc him
He's also great in campaign btw 
I thought he was busted in cr bc of how good he is in campaign but guess not 
the characters looked cool though, and companions doesnt even have them 😭
what's the max you can level minor and major nodes with e30
Takes like a whole year to just build one of them as f2p
I might be exaggerating tho
44 I think
do I want to spend dias to roll in tavern?
no the individual nodes i mean
Is ody > elth in ts?
like see major nodes are at 5 with e30 and minor are at 3 what's the max you can take them to
Yes for a good while
Like how many levels in a node ?
yes
Youre way too behind sadly
There's a cheatsheet somewhere hollon
behind in terms of generell competition? I think I could never compete in this type of games anyway
ok it's 6 and 10
I mean if you enjoy using talene might as well keep playing on the acc, but youre gonna have a hard time with game modes tho
He is right 
welp if you can't find it idk, you could look up your name and see the server number best I can say
and look for that server number in your accounts
He could be right or wrong it won't change my opinion on the hero
I think its sadly cooked
Shes lowkey garbage rn
for fawkes going past e30 would e41 atk mp cda or e38 atk mp be more worth
Technically yes, especially in your newish region, since L Elth works at about 3/4 as good as fully built. Oddy has his own team.
However, if you're in a very competitive region, the L Elth will hold you back.
idk how big cda is on fawkes
what dimensional heroes are still aquireable? or if its too many, which are not qauireable anymore?
Probably att mp? Just pick whatever your coll isn't giving you ig
marcille is the last one for now, then we have to wait for garrison
About 10 bazillion of them aren't acquireable rn
should i be doing smth else with my tree?
And theyre all op
ik cause he's really cool design
so rem emilia OPM shuna etc all not qauireable?
Rem shuna Emilia are garrisonable
saitama, tatsumaki, sung jin woo, cha hae in, dracula are all unavailable the rest are acquirable
tatsumaki is terrible and cha is like fairly niche
so sai sung and drac are the biggest issues
Bro if r55 has mfs that have drac im gonna chair +rope myself live
I just like his pfp
fairly niche is code for slightly less terrible than tatsumaki
and I guess they wont return? D:
It's the main reason I built him for his animated pfp
they can't, I hope they consider not adding them
drac definitely will
but you also like the hero itself in-game right
she's not a collab dim so she'll come in stores
They will include the tail end of r54 tho, and all t100 players have drac rn 💔
Yeah but that's not the reason I built him
bro just wanted an animated hb pfp
but do u know likely how long until r55 split
If shes in challenger store im gonna mald so hard
I like stuff most can't get 
Nah i dont, but there used to be an excel sheet of how many servers are in a region and their split dates
but when
we need more people building oddy cuz marci r4 sucks
I wonder if its still updated
DYDE WHERE IS IT, I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT
Lowkey bro I dont know where it is now
does it matter in anyway what server I start in? im 1111 now, 1194 is the newest, what if I would go back to 1 ?
The only reason to start a on a new server is if u want a higher ranking in modes
1194 allows you to compete better if you wanna follow meta and competitive modes, you can't do that in s1
however if ur playing casual, the server number doesn't matter too much I think
okok thank you everyone
1194 is old af now tho
Dosnt matter at all of u don't care for ranks
But I also like seeing him stomp on flora's 
yeah like 6 days, time flies
Its like over a month old by now
8 days
that's propaganda, it's like 2 weeks for real max
1194 ?
yea
Bc my server only just hit a month like a week ago and im on 1192
I'm on 4 weeks ish 1193
My account is 15 days old and im only 18th place on campaign ranking
how much we betting that komik snuck an account into there
Who tf is komik
It does
No idea it's not cyruss 
smh this new generation of os doesn't even know komik
@prisma carbon do things to him
Wait no dont do things to me

Will steal this one
with your level of pushing with 200 rc?? welp
Is he on here
you played like the best a f2p could play
he quit
To see how old it is just click cyruss pfp bc he started the day it launched
IM UNRANKED on mine
He did not start the day it launched lmao
When did it launch then
haven't checked in a while
Thanks bud 
No fucking clue but I swear to you its more than 2 weeks old
ty for getting rid of that horrid name u had
calm down before I make it an obscene name involving misfortis
He was getting clowned too much 💔
There's only 3 people pushing in my server
Is your main f2p
yes
N2-4 are the only ones pushing 
Fuck how will I provide data if I whale 💔
Drac is 100%. I just hope there would be no saitama 
what means r55
Treasure scramble region 55
if Saitama and drac are there for r55 with us who don't have them I would laugh
Lilith has some nerve then
U can make other people spend for you xddd
Drac is 100% in r55 wdym.
dumbass that would make that screen disappear
People have Saitama in r54 when I don't so it seems pretty normal
also starlit solace ah move
I mean it's more about Saitama, also how do u know for sure
Just push like 10 campaign chapters for someone or sum they'll give you monthlies every month xddd
🙃 🙃 🙃
Cut would most likely be around 1186-1192 from what I heard. All this guys have drac
Ok bro what
Saitama cut would be reasonable for r55 ngl
Sonion
He quit 
yep
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L_YDkM-0Op7WtoqmLhPNv4vGu6xa9hujICve02wXO2U/edit?usp=drivesdk @versed mural I found it
WAIT WHAT
?
I was showing a person on my server that annoys me
Who cares about f2p in lilith xd
Hmm about 20 servers every split so it should be pretty soon
R51 or whatever mugi in is 9 servers
We're literally right on the tail end which is perfect for us
They're going for e80 liberta twin and not althara 
Yeaaa theyre inconsistent as fuck, ig it depends on players volume rather than amount of servers
should i use baits to pull pets or save to get the premium one?
I just home my account is in r55
1190
which server do u think will be last server in r54
R54 started with 1174 so like we're literally the last ones
use it on normal pets
Bro ts is gonna be so fucking free for me


oh wait, that's good news, unless it's like 20 servers or 21 then we might get included at the end of r54
Most logical for me would be saitama cut. Ig around 1187-1188. But no clue how they would actually do it
It still won't matter bc we'll basically be the oldest players in r55 which is a huge advantage
we wont
1186 probably cutoff that would make r54 11 servers makes sense
Hmm u right o forgot they always cut the previous region in half
Wait so aren't we fucked 
How so?
pray r56?
idk lol, but when do you estimate the region split to happen
Cause we'll be the newest players in the new region 💔
Dosnt really matter its PvP whales will always rule it
Most likely rn, the last 2 regions cut off at the 8-9 mark
Buddy f2p t100 exist
oooo interesting
r49 and onwards are all 12 servers or less btw
I mean if spending smart you most likely would've been top100 r54 or close to it
r52 and 53 are tiny, 10 and 9 servers respectively
We aren't talking about him spending though he is f2p
0 money so no spending smart
And I was talking about you
Why to me though?
I might whale hybris just to get the avatar 
Wait nah grumbles acc is only one copy away 
9 more days till useless dracolite ship is gone 
@inner olive you think my f2p acc can max out rift within 27 days or nah ?
Worried that ody might not always have an nc round, seems like elth is inflation proof
I was thinking of getting the pulls 
Also when next week is judy launch?
hell no
Arent updates always on a monday
tuesday*
Oh yea
on test server it's thursday
<t:1780484400:F> release ig for sure would be on main at 00:00 utc
wtf
couple months now
Xd
4 heroes doing 200m or more damage
But I mean they all are kinda dps
or at least close to
does severin work at 1 copy?
no
elthara it is then
=guide
is daemia to 1star ascended or just ascended and breakpoint please
1* for e30. 30930
30 is signature item
okay I have the option to go Si 30 for shuna or daemia which is more efficient
wait how exactly does gear resonance work
Pretty straightforward. You put any piece of gear on your hero. Game making it to whatever your fear reso is
I do still need a piece of mythic gear right?
Any piece of gear
And get 40x proficiency collections
It is not cheat death

It is just immunity
Oh
I mean in camaogij it’s the same thing

And campaign is all that matters

But yeah is it just me or is the desira one trash

Jd about to get the new collections to push a grand total of 0 extra stages

hm?
I’m suddenly much less hyped
I was wondering if it's worth it to pull one estrilda for lightbearer tower

No
Pulling 1 copy is generally not worth it
I see
Especially if it’s for tower
Just wait until you get higher RC or an actual lb team and go claim the floors
The rewards aren’t going anywhere
Do you have any suggestions for mauler tower
It’s just a matter of when you claim it
Wait for woke mauler trial lol
I have gotten free copies of awakened antandra and skariath but still can't go past floor 260
damnm bru
Mauler tower is so cooked
Cele tower you can make do as soon as you get the op heroes built
Daemia +Alna combo
as in
And then like misf and Bert or something for 2nd comp
Alna is a year away tho
Oh
wait 2nd comp?
Trial abuse time 
towers get two teams too??????
aww hell nah bruh
Things like mauler tower we literally don’t have that many good maulers
Buddy
Villanelle is good but once in a blue moon
ngl villanelle is good in cc heavy teams
like with knox and shit later on in camp
when do the Garrison dimensional stones reset
I can start to feel knox struggling
1st of each month
he doesn't solo later on even with si40
he was fine for me till chap43
solo ? like with no one but lysander in the team?
whats max 4f tower rn?
ik celehypo is 1240
pretty much yea. some random units iirc
lemme.test
king knox 
for pet did you use pony or treat or seal ?
6 pony till 15 seal
kk
I’m only 4 days in, do I have any good tanks besides Brutus and Atheus?
follow the guides also
on the state im on it loses against every team
knox js insta dies
do you see my clears?
as a king?
you had knox si30 and used him with elth
oh
oh wait you actually meant use him as king ?
why not? he survives his si40 amplies damage. pet killing
Misfortis min?
20330 ig
Is e30 his main breakpoint?
3f and e30 are both pretty equally as op
Gotcha okay
maybe I just need misha e60 for knox to work properly
doesn't solo at all for me
dies before pony can ult a second time
fairly sure he was doing some stages for me
lmao safiya 1 tapping everything
W Safiya :d
New Dim bein added?
yes
I havent heard anything
you must be deaf then
I guess
?
Dont you have anything more important to merc
Nop
I get 2 heroes from koyo every week already 
And I'll steal Cyrus ody so no one else can use it 
Hybris?
I see i see thats nice
Since I let him Perma merc my sev 
Koyo the goat for a reason :d
do I retire all 3* heroes?
these guys? 
yes
yes, you can
tyy

in the faq I see this, this means the moment I got that completed I stop use diamonds on pulls? what are diamonds used for afterwards, refreshing stores and buying things?
also what exactly means 4f? the 4 main factions?
yep, 4f heroes are graveborns, maulers, wilders and lightbearers
diamonds are used for multiple stuff, buying your daily shop, fast rewards, rerolling bounty board, pulling on HCP, pulling on the stargazer (where you can target pull celestials and hypogeans and wokes once they've reached ascended)
entering some guild related game-modes, buying tickets for specific gamemodes, etc...
once you've pulled 10 meta 4f to ascended (or 1*, not sure about that), you can start saving your diamonds for the stargazer (unlocked at chapter 16-4 iirc)
a 10 pull on the stargazer either costs 10SG (specific currency for pulling celhypos) or 5000 diamonds if you're out of SGs
you should always save ~500SGs before pulling on the stargazer, unless some units are still insanely good at 1 copy
whats the reason with the saving 500 SGS? Ive read it here somewhere few times already
and 700 for dragon or so
so if I have 10 of those ascended I stop pulling?
how many copies were needed for ascension again? (and how many for 5*?)
yeah that's because of how the pity and the average cards used per copy works, it's been calculated that on average, it'll cost you ~500 SG/TE to pull a unit from scratch to 1*, the reason we ask new players to save them before pulling is that those units can become outdated in between the moment you start pulling them and the moment where they're fully built
so if you refrain from pulling whenever you have SGs and instead wait until you're fully stocked up, you'll have a full view of the meta at that specific moment, so you can either fully pull the unit, or the new one that's better
8 copies + 2L+ fodders for Ascended and 2 more for 1*, after that each star requires 2 more copies, so a fully maxed unit requires 18 copies and 2x L+ fodder
going for 5* is NOT recommended
Nino op
some units works at A, some work at 1*, but none of them require 5 stars
I just remember 5 years ago going for my beloved talene 5* 36/36 furniture 😭

???????? half of this is wrong
?
It’s not half but two lines in the data are outdated haha
10 ascended 4f is a stretch it's more around 6-8, you shouldn't save stargazing cards unless you already have all higher prio celehypos done
well yeah that's half
there's 4 lines, 2 are wrong
It’s a pretty big paragraph. On mobile it’s more than 4 lines.
eh, maybe we need to upgrade guide then
i said 10, guide says 9
by lines I mean paragraphs
i waited to SG until i got 15 4f heros😭
actually there's 3 of them
cause thats what the guide said
and saving SGs is not a thing anymore? we're just throwing every SG we get at the summon the moment we get it?
interesting
has it ever been a thing ?
yes?
There are certain celepogs that are considered S tier and worth rushing.
i mean till you have like 6 or 7 celehypos built there's not really any reason to save
so we're now disregarding the possibility of them becoming outdated? wtf lol
Usually the first 1-4 celepogs you build you can rush. They’re just a notch over the rest.
It would be really hard for the top 4 celepogs rn becoming outdated soon. If some celepog would become outdated, it wouldn’t be the top 4, it’d be top 8-10
actually it's probably first 5 not 6 or 7 that's a stretch
left for like 6 months wtf happened to being careful and shit with our resources lmao
6 months ago nobody was advising to save sg what
You’re careful, early game is a rush system right now though
at least not here
Mid game is different from early game.
4 celhypos is early game? 
A big factor making rush better than saving was new TS and NC region.
yes
Jesus lol
Unfortunately yes. It’s like 4 celepogs and 3 wokes for early game still lol.
i have 3 and am still very much in early game
ah yeah that makes sense
that's... wild lol
where do the new players even get all these resources from?
Hello @primal chasm,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
Once early game resources slow down significantly , that’s mid game. But you can rush a lot at the beginning.
faction towers

definitely a new pIayer 
they give 5 stargazers every 15-30 floors
is it 30 floors idfk
it's every other xx5 stage
Towers, campaigns, events, PoT, codes, shops, etc
that's crazy, back then we rushed 31, then stuck on 32-33 for a long time and struggled to get first 2 wokes and 2 celhypos lol
Every 20 floors at first. Then it’s every 10 after a certain threshold
Ch31 is like 2-5 days rush if you’re lucky and spend a lot of time on it.
Even if you don’t try it’s like 2 weeks at longest
well if you're at floor 200 you get 5 at 205 and 5 again at 215 i suck at math so idk how many floors that is
10
another question, so we don't wait for 5 L+ units and 8 copies before ascending anymore?
nah its because as our attention span worsens the meta must accomdate that, so its okay to spend impulsively
we do
tiktok ahh meta
fr
you start stargazing with diamonds at like 7 ascended so you can't afford to ascend everyone to mythic
fodder is limited
In early game I’d wait for 8 copies, rather than 10.
And 5 L+ copies is 20 copies lol
5 L+ fodders
Oh wait, I misread that.


