classic-questions

[glass yew]

Also that ezeth didn't work on flora

[inner olive]

teams ?

[glass yew]

So am out of thoughts here

[barren fjord]

smh u suck

[solar fractal]

Just check your self lol

Oh wait am not t100

Can’t do that

[solar fractal]

Bet

[inner olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104261782421393508/1475259278326628503/togif.gif

[barren fjord]

yo chill

[solar fractal]

Nah it’s cool

[inner olive]

why is bro scared of casual

[solar fractal]

Gonna remember this

[fading wedge]

[barren fjord]

hes lowkey my higher up bro, im finna be terminated

[inner olive]

will casual fill out his first job application in the big 2026 ?

[glass yew]

She killed my envy right before she landed -.-

[barren fjord]

he doesnt need to, they pay him to play afk arena

[hasty flax]

he can already retire bro

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-yum-red-collar-gif-18686834

[barren fjord]

i think hes saying hi

[hasty flax]

casual do i buy olego batman

[autumn river]

just buy that shi if u want it

[hasty flax]

im in a dilemma

[autumn river]

whats the dilemma

[river shuttle]

The whole picture is drawn with blood

[hasty flax]

so game is 75 bucks. I can buy on third party website for 40bucks. I can also buy deluxe for 65 instead of 100, but i might not get all the d eluxe perks (aka 3 games early access)

[inner olive]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994913587116126269

[autumn river]

y wouldnt u get the early access thingy?

[hasty flax]

third party key webiste

[autumn river]

if its not the correct product u can get a refund unless its a scam site

[hasty flax]

it doesnt mention anythinga bout 3 days early access, so i think i just get a steam key on game official release

[hasty flax]

It is legit site, but i just dont think the presale keys they provide actually has 3 days early access

[autumn river]

ask their support or just buy the official thing bud

iss not dat deeep

[hasty flax]

im trying to contact the seller but no contact button :/ and officail thing is overpriced homie im not rich like u. i need to be cheap here so i can spend on afk

[autumn river]

its $75 bud

gotta splurge at least a lil

[idle thorn]

i do not understand why you would be banned for that tbh

[hasty flax]

you are crazy, that is a week of work bro

[autumn river]

bro works in a shein factory

[hasty flax]

as a amtter of fact, i do

[prisma carbon]

Cooked

Not related to that btw

[hasty flax]

okay you convinced me to buy the cheap one marttith ty

[autumn river]

u wanna see something cooked bud?

[hasty flax]

great to see old and cheap heroews getting stomepd

[autumn river]

real

[prisma carbon]

Whale shit

[hexed mulch]

what can i put on that last team

[glass yew]

Can't beat flora just send dommy mommy drac

[barren fjord]

a 9f e30 drac lol

[hexed mulch]

[inner olive]

i have 6k cores and 4 aurelias away from a1 should i e60 selene

[charred jetty]

Rip grumble

Who did this

[barren fjord]

wait why he leave?

[inner olive]

cuz idk

[charred jetty]

Ye

[hasty flax]

@autumn gull what

[barren fjord]

what

[inner olive]

he left check mutual servers

[charred jetty]

???

I don’t even have e60 Selene

[inner olive]

big gamble gotta get 3k cores before I get 4 aurelias

[barren fjord]

no lol

[inner olive]

nah not worth it

[charred jetty]

And I have 65 e60+ heroes

[inner olive]

ima end up with an e30 aurelia ts cooked

[river shuttle]

Discord is weird buddy

[inner olive]

+1

[autumn river]

krékan

[inner olive]

smol account

[tepid totem]

its big

[autumn river]

i have 78 wtf

since when i thought i had like 50

[inner olive]

that's what she said hat

[steep stream]

i have 12

[inner olive]

i have 2

[steep stream]

[inner olive]

am just missing one number were basically the same

[steep stream]

what does e60 selene even do

[inner olive]

100% damage boost for 8s

ill do it after aurelia don't wanna gamble too much

[barren fjord]

personal damage boost tho, imo not worth lol, if it was even a 30% dmg boost for teamates it would be worth but idk bruv

[inner olive]

wait till bro realizes what envy's e60 does

[barren fjord]

aint no way r u comparing envy e60 w sel e60

[inner olive]

they do the same thing

but envys one lasts for 2 seconds longer

[mild plank]

Is Envy or Selene more worth investing into?

[river shuttle]

[inner olive]

envy bruh

[mild plank]

If there is no obscure answer I'd say you are wrong then

[inner olive]

ones a woke ones a celehypo

[river shuttle]

And envy has 10x the dmg before so it has basically 10x impact

[mild plank]

So you just answered yourself, their e60 is not the same...

[inner olive]

you just asked for their general investment

[mild plank]

I didn't ask, I asked for your thoughts on your own thinking.

[hexed mulch]

are you genuinely debating wether selene has a bigger impact than envy

[mild plank]

Envy's personal damage boost or Selene's personal damage boost matter more?

[inner olive]

"i didn't ask, i asked"

[mild plank]

Imagine arguing about grammar when you are failing to keep up with your real argument

[barren fjord]

😭😭 OS is something else

[inner olive]

anyways envy is used in more places so his e60 is more worth doing

[hexed mulch]

He legit answered your question the first time, one is a celehypo one is a woke, who do you think is more important

[charred jetty]

What the kraken

[mild plank]

My question is a mirror to his answer...

[charred jetty]

Envy about to leave the meta once sever drops

[inner olive]

their e60s technically do the same thing but one hero is used way less in general

[hexed mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/whyishestilltalkingbilal-meme-brainrot-toverdefance-gif-15191209516763207873

[mild plank]

He said their e60's the same when it is definitely not...

[inner olive]

im just saying they do the same thing

both are a 100% damage boost to themselves for a similar period of time

[charred jetty]

Envy is a lot more core rn

[hexed mulch]

when new update

[charred jetty]

Selene…

Selene is very good in campaign, but sees less use than envy in RGMs generally speaking

[mild plank]

Um it is definitely not the same thing technically...

[charred jetty]

Next Monday night

[hexed mulch]

thank u

[mild plank]

Sorry as I've said before it is not a real question

[charred jetty]

Oh like yiu are saying impact on the hero

[mild plank]

Yes

[charred jetty]

I lowkey think Selene e60 does more

[inner olive]

thing is selene is not a dps in later game

[idle thorn]

Hmm. Never seen anyone being banned for that tbh. For <13 age sure. But tbh nothing past that

[mild plank]

Do more thing for her DPS but Envy's one helps him scale better

[inner olive]

oh you should see my 24+ banned accounts

[charred jetty]

Wait envy e60 is so bad

[charred jetty]

Like in RGM?

[inner olive]

yeah

[charred jetty]

Yeah that’s true

[idle thorn]

THE WTF. i have no banned accounts. wtf you done

[charred jetty]

But I think they are just asking impact on hero

[inner olive]

that's why her invest is 20330

[mild plank]

No I didn't ask at all, it was more like a rhetorical one.

[charred jetty]

Selene e60 does a lot more for her in terms of damage

[hexed mulch]

next si30? im thinking dae

[charred jetty]

Envy e60 is actually so bad

[hexed mulch]

sorry lemme sort them

[charred jetty]

I’m taking that off the list

=engraving

[gilded sapphire]

Engraving Heroes:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994910793214722140

[hexed mulch]

there

[idle thorn]

man wtf

[charred jetty]

Envy is done

I mean I guess stats

But I think just do e41

[mild plank]

It helps him scale at higher deficit I assume

[inner olive]

wait actually his e60 isn't that good its a 100% damage boost based on this

based on 60% of an enemy atk rating buff lmao

so it's not really a raw 100% damage boost

[charred jetty]

It’s like 100% on top of 300%

And even then it’s based int eh 60%

[inner olive]

oh

[charred jetty]

So it’s actually only like what 60% on top of 180%

[inner olive]

int eh yes inteh

[charred jetty]

Sai is so op

Why don’t people do sai cycle

His +30 is really strong

[inner olive]

sai executioner wasp

[charred jetty]

Well in theory

Can someone not Julius clear 79-9 please

[inner olive]

ill do it

calls bank for 100k loan

[charred jetty]

I legit don’t think 100k is enough

[inner olive]

oh yeah definitely not

[hexed mulch]

=sigprio

[inner olive]

why do people make this mistake

[hexed mulch]

what is it again

[charred jetty]

Because =sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

Stargazing Priorities:

#994913771598389318 message

[inner olive]

why would it be sig instead of si

[charred jetty]

We need a better naming system or aliases

Oh actually si makes sense

[inner olive]

start by renaming sgprio to =stargazing

[hexed mulch]

why is it sg, sg lowkey stands for stargaze

[charred jetty]

Yeah it is stargaze

But we have sgprio, te and dragons

[hexed mulch]

i meant =siprio

[gilded sapphire]

Signature Item Prio Guide:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1008942630199107654

[hexed mulch]

idk why i add the extra g

[inner olive]

do we think hybris can replace envy in woke prio

[hexed mulch]

It better not cuz i just got envy ti 30360

[inner olive]

ti

[hexed mulch]

jump

[hexed mulch]

holy background

[inner olive]

mods ban him for death threats

[mild plank]

Who could this be used for, I assume Fawkes

[inner olive]

yeah

[rough rose]

As a new player , what should i garrison first?? SJW? Rem??

[hollow parcel]

Hello @rough rose,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[inner olive]

sjw is not in garrison, but do rem and shuna

[mild plank]

You can't garrison SJW, Rem and Shuna is the way to go

[rough rose]

🙁 oh so i wont be able to get him ??? D:

[inner olive]

who i pick

[mild plank]

Either you wait 6 months - 1 year or you don't get him at all

[hexed mulch]

wish we could garrison sjw

[inner olive]

sje

[hexed mulch]

Pleaseee jump

how did u even clip that

[inner olive]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994913587116126269

[charred jetty]

yikes

probably wuci ig

[charred jetty]

ayo that's a decent coll

[inner olive]

i did that

[charred jetty]

like most sorc dps

[tepid totem]

i never get good colls

[mild plank]

Oh ok thank you

Also Severin has decent DPS

[charred jetty]

it takes months yeah

unless perk 4

[mild plank]

At 1 copy, but he's flimsy, like another Elthara ig

[charred jetty]

I wish you guys could get sjw and sai

sjw is kinda TS only

but Sai is just incredible

[steep stream]

Si30 prio between shuna sai sjw and drac?

[charred jetty]

what the heck is going on

[charred jetty]

not too sure tbh, probably not shuna...

maybe drac

[inner olive]

bruh

wrong reply

[steep stream]

interesting, copy that

[charred jetty]

look at this Tasi spam

[fathom linden]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1496974284957028456/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide-1_page-0001.jpg?ex=69ec7e31&is=69eb2cb1&hm=796f2e7b91762fc80f46437d386e6ae1c8d6d2deef868b52173b32a796fc2d72&

[fathom linden]

Guys my knox is E60 should I get him to E80?

[charred jetty]

yay "ACE"

[mild plank]

No

[fathom linden]

Alr

[rotund nova]

=newserver

[gilded sapphire]

Regarding when new servers come out: We don't know. There's no fixed schedule, they just come out when they do, but it's roughly 1 per week-ish

[rotund nova]

=siprio

[gilded sapphire]

Signature Item Prio Guide:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1008942630199107654

[inner olive]

god the luck

[mild plank]

Nice, I rarely see any HB in there other than Levi

[barren fjord]

i see kaelon a lot tbf

[rough rose]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[inner olive]

+1

[mild plank]

Oh dang I never see em

How is he though, searching thru guides I’d never see him

Is he super duper niche or is he bad?

[inner olive]

he's not very used anymore, he's a giga whale hero in nc and ts

[barren fjord]

and CR lol

[inner olive]

oh he's in cr too ?

[barren fjord]

yeah i see him a bit in the whale lineups

his kit seems super cool, cant wait to have em

[inner olive]

never read it all I know is he likes gambling

[barren fjord]

hes basically a DnD game master where he “rolls” to do stuff, and as the match progresses he gets “luckier” which just basically garuntees he gets the higher rolls

[inner olive]

i remember when he was required for some nc round

[tepid totem]

yeah

[barren fjord]

as every HB is when they release lol, except for haelia i suppose? idk much about her release

[inner olive]

i think haelia just sucked

i don't see how lilith could have possibly made an nc boss need her

[barren fjord]

shes only used for en passant in TS and legends chall, 😭😭 shes just super omega whale pvp unit

bc watha works perfectly fine

but the watha comp WILL lose to the haelia comp

[inner olive]

watha en passant sucks

[barren fjord]

💔

watha alvida alyca lys and elth no?

[inner olive]

oh yeah alvida

[steep stream]

Hae was used in the previous iteration of the upcoming nc r6

[inner olive]

i have her si20 that's probably why that team does bad

[barren fjord]

yeah i think at si40 she provides enough taunt for watha to not get speed blitzed lol

i hope i get t50 this ts

[inner olive]

i hope I get 10%

need dat rank plate

[fathom linden]

How do I report bugs from the game

[inner olive]

#bug-reports

[grim hamlet]

I mean she's still bis in pvp lol. And the next NC boss, marsha, needed her for like 5 months until elth came and popped her out

[inner olive]

wow

[grim hamlet]

when hae came out that "increased health loss" buff she does was unique

[steep stream]

do you think they just giga inflated the summons hp to make sev a requirement lol

[grim hamlet]

we had very very few ways to specifically buff health loss damage. There were a few ways to reduce enemy buffer but that's it

and those ways sucked in comparison. The two best were kalthin and spooder and neither worked well enough to warrant a comp for marsha

[inner olive]

whole lot of bait

[grim hamlet]

her 60% increase in ers damage was the way, there was a hae merc crisis for at least half of that cycle

kae was funny though

Kae didn't actually get a boss gimmick

like reading the boss there was nothing kae about it

but secretly they tacked on a massive buff to kae specifically if he was used in that round

and despite that he still got crept out of bis on his round like 3 months into it

kae does have legit cr usage though. I forget how many rounds but he's completely irreplaceable in idre. And decent in TS but kind of homeless. He's used as like a support subdps in a variety of places but there's no like stonks kae team. Hae is actually considered very very good in pvp its just that quickly became her only remaining spot in meta so she gets ranked real low in prio

since her release they've tacked her "unique buff" onto like 15 other things lol. I'm sure at this point hae owners are just resigned about it

[charred jetty]

I think they figured out the must build formula

just make the next NC boss dependent on new hero

and everyone builds/fights for mercs

longevity isn't really a metric anymore

just build the HB that otherwise will cook you for 6 months

[grim hamlet]

I mean it's kind of the metric lol

Hb every 3 months right?

[charred jetty]

yeah

[grim hamlet]

F2p can build every other

Nc bosses last a month

[charred jetty]

so they have to merc that other one

[grim hamlet]

So at any time there is one hb you must own and one hb you must merc

[charred jetty]

so whenever they drop a LBD that's good or dim exchange, massive L

[inner olive]

what

[grim hamlet]

And as long as they leave with their round your ok

[charred jetty]

ye

[grim hamlet]

If they don't leave and you built the other one...

Rip

[charred jetty]

just build both

[olive jewel]

795 RC at 78-53

[charred jetty]

how? idk up to them to figure out

[charred jetty]

nice nice

[inner olive]

wts

[grim hamlet]

Sorry I changed thoughts mid message from NC bosses last 6 months to new one every month and that came out

[versed mural]

at what point do i not use my factional scrolls on graveborn?

[inner olive]

after randle ivan and mira a1

[karmic walrus]

No fucking shot. It took me over 7 months to build him, I could barely get copies. I think like 3 were from the freebie chests we got

I’ve been mercing him for so long 😭

[inner olive]

that would be a skill issue sir

[versed mural]

is that with fodder? i have all the copies almost for ivan and mira to finish them, randle a bit behind but i have 150 factional scrolls and idk what to do

[karmic walrus]

Luck issue bucko

[inner olive]

yes with fodder

[versed mural]

=unlock

[gilded sapphire]

When Does X Unlock?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1076492667065745459

[elder heart]

You can ascend A1 a HBD in 6months f2p ?

[tepid totem]

maybe

[mild plank]

Possible, need to be able to buy all DIs from Dragonforge and at least be in top 20% NC

My calculations might be wrong but I think it’s somewhat correct

[olive jewel]

Thats the generally accepted timeline yeah

NC rankings help offset RNG

[next sleet]

Where are the 4 free shemira copies from again? I seem to be missing one

[inner olive]

candy crush maybe ?

[elder heart]

Yeah for now I only get to lvl 4 or smth I don’t have lot of drags, for NC I’m at 50% at best

[next sleet]

Nah I finished candy crush

[inner olive]

check shadow invasions login rewards ?

[mild plank]

Wait what, I heard somebody was be able to defeat Dragonforge 5 with technically only Elthara

[elder heart]

Okay thanks
Wdym about rng ? Isn’t the DI income pretty regular since we have so few

[next sleet]

Nah shadow invasion is only showing wukong on day 7

[inner olive]

i had elthara hild and levi all 1 copy serenmia mythic and cleared 5

[mild plank]

Idk how though I’m just saying

[olive jewel]

income is. the pulls are rng though

[elder heart]

Didn’t try hard the mode but I would like to hear more lol

[mild plank]

Selene just said he did

[elder heart]

Makes sense

[olive jewel]

so getting more from NC rewards gives you a better safety net for rng

[elder heart]

Damn nice I’ll ask him, I probably can go to 5 then

[inner olive]

show ur dragons rq

[elder heart]

Ofc the more the better

[inner olive]

this was my clear for 5

[elder heart]

Didn’t focus on drag that much, hoarding DI and scrolls to 300

[mild plank]

Should I force Mythic 1 hero so I can push to 180 RC to use fatty trial to quickly clear tower? He expires after reset

[elder heart]

Dépends on the hero

[mild plank]

I heard Hildwin was good against Flora so most people tried to get him

[elder heart]

Can get him freely

[mild plank]

Yeah

[elder heart]

I should be able to get the last 15 pieces for 1 copy

[inner olive]

bruh you didn't pull during mia event ?

[mild plank]

Alvida is plenty good M right?

[elder heart]

I did

[inner olive]

yeah

[elder heart]

If she doesn’t get os yeah

[inner olive]

si20 is her main breakpoint for a long time

[hexed mulch]

they are scattered throughout, some in campaign, some in vampire survivors

[elder heart]

Let’s try again dragon forge, I don’t know what he does tho gonna =rbsg 😂

[gilded sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

[hexed mulch]

i never got to use my shemira copies

[steep stream]

How many leg totems are needed to open up another slot on a coll?

[inner olive]

10

[steep stream]

Goddamn expensive

[vagrant vigil]

are there any good deals out rn for te or di? I wanna blow some money but dk what to buy

[prisma carbon]

What coll does Drac need in NC?

[inner olive]

"i wanna blow some"

[inner olive]

mp storm

[elder heart]

Yay

[vagrant vigil]

lmao yeah

[inner olive]

10% PLEASE LILITH LET ME HOLD IT FOR ONE MORE BATTLE

[prisma carbon]

Does it really matter

7t are on there way :d

[lament torrent]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1496974284957028456/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide-1_page-0001.jpg?ex=69ec7e31&is=69eb2cb1&hm=796f2e7b91762fc80f46437d386e6ae1c8d6d2deef868b52173b32a796fc2d72&

[glass yew]

10% again

Went from 10% to 14% to 10% back to 14 to now 10

[prisma carbon]

Ye ye

[idle thorn]

Am no longer 3% whatever I'm trying to do with team 6 just making it worse at this point xd

[prisma carbon]

Testing and more testing

[inner olive]

dead chat

[velvet jetty]

Dead game

[barren fjord]

dead me

[elder heart]

💩

Can Selene be a good carry with e60 ? Idk if usefull in RGM tho

[velvet jetty]

Dead you

[velvet jetty]

Selene is good in campaign but not really much elsewhere

[glass yew]

[glass yew]

How do I qualify for legends championship?

Bc I was n3 last rotation but I wasn't in it

[idle thorn]

You earn point for every hour on place. Higher place more points. And on the end of season top 10 point get to lc

[glass yew]

I was top 3 for points

Kasu wasn't accepted : /

[idle thorn]

You need to be top 10 here ig

[glass yew]

I wa top 3 there

[idle thorn]

No clue in that case

[charred jetty]

She’s not

I mean maybe if you’re like top 10 TS

[glass yew]

Jd do u know?

[inner olive]

selene doesn't even have e30 in battles thats for next round

[charred jetty]

Did you have 5 Myhric + heroes

I assume so lol

But otherwise seems like #bug-reports

[glass yew]

I have almost 30 ascended

[inner olive]

what the fuck

[charred jetty]

Ban him, too many A

[inner olive]

bros gonna unlock nc through A heroes instead of rc 350

[idle thorn]

I have more xd

[glass yew]

?

[glass yew]

You've played longer

[inner olive]

your account isn't a week old

[idle thorn]

I did that xd. With around lvl 330ish

[charred jetty]

I’m just rocking 303e30 as well

[inner olive]

ima have 30360 soon

[idle thorn]

His isn't weeks old either, isn't it?

[charred jetty]

Too many whales in chat, where’s the F2P corner

[inner olive]

gotta 60 aurelia first

[charred jetty]

Don’t do it

[glass yew]

Lvl 323 with 26 ascended

[charred jetty]

Don’t do the 60

[inner olive]

who else should i e60

[charred jetty]

Just hold

Lots of heroes need e60

[inner olive]

bruh

[charred jetty]

Selene is not one of them

If you’re super bored get Dracula e60

[glass yew]

Started on the 18th

[inner olive]

maybe i e60 misha instead

[charred jetty]

Eh

[glass yew]

So how ever old that is

[charred jetty]

Misha e60 is TS Cr only

[idle thorn]

He is selene glazer. That is the way xd

[inner olive]

guess what mode matters most for new players

[charred jetty]

CR… yeah…

But Dracula is better for TS

[inner olive]

hm

well i did card dracula 9f after all

[idle thorn]

That one looks funny. And you got 9f already

[olive jewel]

You e60 Misha to e65 Misha

[inner olive]

i might as well finish her tbf

[inner olive]

e60 misha also gives team wide cheat death when she ults

[charred jetty]

See, it win

Definitely because he has e60 Dracula

[inner olive]

new pc ignore pablo ahh

[pulsar marlin]

Totally not fatty

[charred jetty]

But legit would just hold

Why does misf do so much damage

Like what the heck

[inner olive]

cores are so easy to get tho

[charred jetty]

Mine did jack all

[elder heart]

Okay that’s what I thought, decent support thought she’s great

[charred jetty]

Okay send them my way plz

[inner olive]

i actually am drowning in them

i almost always have at least twice as many cores as yellows

[idle thorn]

When you still have one time rewards sure

[pulsar marlin]

Gimme those cores

[inner olive]

what one time rewards

[idle thorn]

Wtf

[pulsar marlin]

I have 5 e60s to do

[inner olive]

i can't e30 someone rn but i can e60 someone

matter of fact I have 6k cores not even barely enough to e60 someone

[idle thorn]

I mean same for me but I have more e30 then e60

[inner olive]

like 3k away from being able to do 2 e60 at the same time

[charred jetty]

she's quite good at 209e30

that's the main problem with e60ing her

[olive jewel]

Are you buying shards in store?

[charred jetty]

same as dracual honestly

[inner olive]

yes

[idle thorn]

I have 6 e30 and 3 e60. Enough resources for one more e60

[inner olive]

i always do

[inner olive]

i have 2 e60 almost enough resources for 2 more e60

[charred jetty]

cores don't stand being spent

that statements makes so much less sense in english

[inner olive]

buy cores from dragonforge trial shop and rift shop lol

[hasty flax]

i swear e60 is more expensive than building HBN

[charred jetty]

like e60 is more expensive than +40

[inner olive]

everybody should be doing that

[hasty flax]

facts i have 2x more si40 tthan e60

[inner olive]

YO

[charred jetty]

get him out of here

insta banned

[timber cedar]

Crazy

[inner olive]

hi jot

[prisma carbon]

Lock me in

[hasty flax]

there is no way you pulled that

[charred jetty]

uh double check that 4M +1 is BiS though

[idle thorn]

Ehh. Sounds meh. Barely have enough currency for either

[charred jetty]

myu did 3M +2 for my MP storm

grumble alive?

[hasty flax]

probably hbetter to card mp

[charred jetty]

say hi to grumble for me plz

[inner olive]

its fine to delay di and scrolls for cores you can still easily buy all 20-30 di and scrolls every month even if you buy cores

[charred jetty]

uh 5 MP storm?

[idle thorn]

He should be still in TS server

[charred jetty]

oh yeah

[inner olive]

actually idk if you can do that, if you can then definitely do it

[charred jetty]

I don't really chat in TS though

[hasty flax]

no idea, as far as i know you either go stat stick or +1/+2 (other than atk/cda)

[charred jetty]

idk where the gang is

[prisma carbon]

In VC rn he is seeing this chat as we speak

[idle thorn]

Actually I had some for cores

[inner olive]

grumble why did you leave

[hasty flax]

dankata is not grumble

[idle thorn]

Neither am I but he is there xd

[inner olive]

wow

[charred jetty]

wait you asked around right

[inner olive]

grumble is the best of us

[charred jetty]

please don't take my word at face value for RGM stuff

[inner olive]

#1 cs degrades himself and his own advice this is devastating news

[hasty flax]

grumble probably cooked that

[prisma carbon]

Well grumble told me

[charred jetty]

ok sounds good

[hasty flax]

is that a fawkes only coll?

[prisma carbon]

Im in a vc with him rn he is helping me

[inner olive]

like most mages use that I think

[hasty flax]

tell him he's cute

[prisma carbon]

Imm answer when Grumble tells me :d

[charred jetty]

I like the +1 4 storm the best

use that for most of my mages

[prisma carbon]

GG so complicated for no reason

[grim hamlet]

MP? no. its not fawkes only but its definitely not the preferred stat for most mages

I use an MP storm on fawkes at all times pretty much. I used to use it on elth outside of TS until I upgraded hers (though that only applies to built elth, L elth gets almost nothing out of MP)

Think its a solid default for drac though I think bis is often just fatk. Some CRs she has crit cda

[mellow mauve]

=tierlist

[gilded sapphire]

Looking for a Tierlist?

Tierlists are generally quite untrustworthy in this game, because there's too many nuances and different factors that make certain heroes good or bad for different accounts. As a general guide, use the links below:

• 4 Faction Heroes: =wishlist
• Celestials/Hypogeans: #994913771598389318 message
• Awakened Heroes: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
• Dragons/HB: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235, But generally avoid them in the early game

[grim hamlet]

I guess if you dont' have IS storm for zohra you can use MP storm instead in those CRs. she's usually just attack or crit/cda storm though

[prisma carbon]

@charred jetty Carding for +2

[grim hamlet]

idk i can't really think of anything else. If you don't have an attack storm though then that's a solid alt to it and then it would be pretty universal

[hasty flax]

can we ban this guy

[hasty flax]

can you ask grumble if i can call him tomorrow and on tuesday when we pull hb?

[prisma carbon]

He said Tuesday maybe

[hasty flax]

man

[prisma carbon]

But you can dm him no prob

[rough rose]

=engrave

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599454843834451/1479566752412205118/xQxfJzi.png?ex=6a057eaa&is=6a042d2a&hm=3f899fc00ed366f7c4860377122726383d4247a3cc6fb6bebddcf34aa12f4d95&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=930&height=514&

[hasty flax]

im trying

[rough rose]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan + Randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[rough rose]

Why 7 flight tho D: why not just 1?

you can socket the flight on 2 heroes at the same time , why would you need 7 D:

[inner olive]

every support needs flight

[olive jewel]

Because you are very unlikely to get a usable one in one try

[rough rose]

is it just cuz first one will be baaaad ;D

[inner olive]

also you need a fatk flight and an atk flight

[viral dock]

Whats best to take please?

[olive jewel]

you do it 7 times because most will be terrible

[rough rose]

oh ye my first is worse than you can even imagine one being ;D

[inner olive]

yeah exactly

[inner olive]

eorin

[rough rose]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[rough rose]

genuinelly , is solise good?

[inner olive]

no

and the same goes if you're talking about awakened solise

[rough rose]

cuz like i only know about A solise since i played companions for few months

[inner olive]

ic

[rough rose]

how about lorsan , is he as busted as he is on companions? 😄

[inner olive]

no

also wait lorsan is good in companions? i last played when he had just released

[rough rose]

lorsan is mad good in companions

[inner olive]

wow

[rough rose]

straight on might be second best support right after lyca

dunno about palmer and liberta , 👉 👈 dont have them on good invest yet

well but those 2 being bad explains why i cant get past floor 8 on gg

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1492743111326302280/AFK_Arena_-_Extended_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=69dc70db&is=69db1f5b&hm=cd463ea6ee33636cd2cd1931103429a72fcb2c3e3381843acbdc1edd197c58ad&

[prisma carbon]

Im so happy

Do yk how much this is gonna bosot me in NC and TS

[inner olive]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1496974284957028456/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide-1_page-0001.jpg?ex=69ec7e31&is=69eb2cb1&hm=796f2e7b91762fc80f46437d386e6ae1c8d6d2deef868b52173b32a796fc2d72&

[inner olive]

how many rounds till ts calc

[calm oak]

i got 2 copies elth levi and ody i dont know which to ascend

[elder heart]

Hoard

[barren fjord]

isnt it tnite? or maybe tmrw ig

[inner olive]

oh i forgot ts stays for like 15 hours after calc lol

just saying season is over

[barren fjord]

that shit stays for like 36 hours

[inner olive]

then yeah this might be last round, i was gonna try testing something

[barren fjord]

yeah i hope it was last round bc that means im sub 50

[idle thorn]

2

[sturdy umbra]

if I fucked up my temporal rift is there any way to return to floor 1

[idle thorn]

No. How do you fuck it up? Don't really think there is anything unreversable

[sturdy umbra]

I never started and left at floor 1 to save it and I climbed to 220

[idle thorn]

And? Don't see anything fucked?

[sturdy umbra]

it means I cant minmax beckoning palace, meaning I likely cant max out temporal rift rewards

[elder heart]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1492743111326302280/AFK_Arena_-_Extended_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=69dc70db&is=69db1f5b&hm=cd463ea6ee33636cd2cd1931103429a72fcb2c3e3381843acbdc1edd197c58ad&

[elder heart]

Who has an alt on serv 1194 ?

[olive jewel]

calc is in 24 hours at reset

which means 2 more deployments

[inner olive]

no

you can try return to floor 20

it can also give beck place but can't go back to 1

[sturdy umbra]

how do I do this

[inner olive]

the same way you'd return to floor 1

[sturdy umbra]

lowest I can go is 141

or 114 from memory

[inner olive]

oh bruh

[elder heart]

I always went back to the latest floor and managed to go through

[idle thorn]

Envy made them disappear xd. 4 kills in 1 hit

[sturdy umbra]

so my best bet is just to start at 114 from here on out?

[gritty kiln]

=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726

[gritty kiln]

=garrison

[gilded sapphire]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[gray merlin]

=unlock

[gilded sapphire]

When Does X Unlock?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1076492667065745459

[gritty kiln]

=spending

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Spending Money

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828

[gritty kiln]

=nobles

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1428257082691420200

[rough rose]

is there a way to see how many totems i used in GG??

[prisma carbon]

Nah

[gritty kiln]

=resource

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599454843834451/1473739278373879879/SimpleResourceGuide.png?ex=69974e28&is=6995fca8&hm=e8c61362b6a68f7de6a1c96cbcc5eab5c75854847fc8d87b01e239fa50ee13ac&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=819&height=680

[barren fjord]

why are you just lying 😭

[inner olive]

spreading misinformation is fun

[prisma carbon]

You can?

[prisma carbon]

Also check these

[inner olive]

unkind words

[barren fjord]

bangers

[prisma carbon]

Real

[gritty kiln]

guys i got hero choice chest who should i chose

[inner olive]

you can check here

[prisma carbon]

Ohhh

[gritty kiln]

can u tell me please?

[olive jewel]

A meta hero that you are one copy away from ascending

[prisma carbon]

Did you see my new colls

[olive jewel]

[gritty kiln]

i have randle M and 2 E+ randles

i js dont have fodders

[olive jewel]

Use it for someone else then

there is no need to rush

[elder heart]

=unlock

[gilded sapphire]

When Does X Unlock?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1076492667065745459

[gritty kiln]

i got ivan E+ and 1 E , beside that i dont thing i have anything else

[olive jewel]

then save it

[gritty kiln]

ok thanks

[pulsar marlin]

Damn fatty inflating hubbles wr

[tepid raft]

My team 6 is struggling bad in ts

[barren fjord]

my team 5, 6 and 7 are strugglin

[elder heart]

My team 6 is pure 🐶 💩

[junior saddle]

are they ever bringing back unlimited pulls thing

[barren fjord]

lmao

[tepid raft]

@olive jewel tips on fixing 6th team

[inner olive]

start by putting watha frontline

[olive jewel]

you have to frontline watha for that comp

[tepid raft]

Okay who goes backline dracula

[barren fjord]

en passant and watha isnt pawn, aure is a dead body in that comp that gives the enemy team buffs, and i doubt drac does much execpt spam die until her 9f ends lol

[olive jewel]

neither of the fronts fit much tbh

do you have Alvida?

[tepid raft]

This better

[olive jewel]

yeah

[tepid raft]

Okay thank you my guy

[inner olive]

make sure pippa got the sp

[tepid raft]

She does my guy

[prisma carbon]

Hi

[glass yew]

Nub

[prisma carbon]

[tepid raft]

Nobody show yunie i am not in mood for ridicule lol

[glass yew]

I need to get that right one

[glass yew]

Is that discord in the top right?

[prisma carbon]

Nope

[tepid raft]

Is fatty worth going for

[glass yew]

Imo, yes

[glass yew]

What is it then?

[tepid raft]

Wheres he used and thanks

[barren fjord]

ts

[inner olive]

ts pmo 🤣🫱🫱

[glass yew]

Oh I got 0 idea, I know he's used in ts though

[prisma carbon]

Snapchat

[pulsar marlin]

Some nc rounds as subs and ts he’s just strong

[glass yew]

Jm ranked @inner olive?

[pulsar marlin]

I don’t think he popped up in cr yet

[tepid raft]

Okay thanks much appreciated

[inner olive]

unkind and derogatory words insulting your bad grammar

[glass yew]

?

[olive jewel]

Havent seen him there

[inner olive]

oh fuck i thought it was a misspell

ye now I get it

[glass yew]

I'm not gonna spell it

[pulsar marlin]

Ye he’s just really strong ts unit

[barren fjord]

i mean i dont see why he cant just be thrown in as a buffer since he buffs quite a bit

[inner olive]

mate ranked

[tepid raft]

Orthros doesnt need engraving right sorry for asking i forget easy

[olive jewel]

low invest is good too

[inner olive]

no

[pulsar marlin]

Yep he’s working really well at 203 rn

[tepid raft]

Okay thanks peeps

[olive jewel]

Mine is 200e30

[pulsar marlin]

Hubbles went from 40% to 60%

[barren fjord]

my mis is 30330, and brought my hybris from 60% to 86% lol

[sturdy umbra]

when do I get daemia +30?

[inner olive]

@barren fjord did you push kasumi acc

[inner olive]

5th probably after jerome

[sturdy umbra]

someone told me knox 40 comes before her 30

[inner olive]

or can go before

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah he’s like absurdly good ts unit

[inner olive]

is debatable

[sturdy umbra]

but getting her 30 after knox 40 is fine?

[inner olive]

yeah

[sturdy umbra]

I dont have envy 30 yet but at the same time my afawkes is 3 copies from ascended and idek if Im going envy after that I might do hybris to M sicne Im seeing hybris fucking everywhere

[tepid raft]

Whos sp do i use estrilda or hybris in nc

[inner olive]

hybris

and make sure he got highest atk

[glass yew]

Oh Selene could u go check cr and the other mode idk if I can do better then what I got

[pulsar marlin]

Hubbles needs highest attack, so atk dancer is better

[inner olive]

i suck at pve

[glass yew]

Why

[inner olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409638806055030834/1504956028154941480/attachment-43.gif

idk cr sucks

[sturdy umbra]

im psure its still too early but is hybris > envy on prio

[tepid raft]

Lets goooooooooooooo

[glass yew]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaaaaa-neko-angry-panicking-anime-gif-20049278

[glass yew]

U got this

[pulsar marlin]

Bud dw about cr if kisaka can’t even t200

[glass yew]

Whale activities

[olive jewel]

[sturdy umbra]

im psure its still too early but is hybris > envy on prio

[inner olive]

obama pon dih

[tepid raft]

Thats not even my hybris

[hexed mulch]

holy shit dont open afk arena on a dark room i got flash banged

[inner olive]

you answered your own question

[olive jewel]

CR starts giving TE at 16% tho

dont need t200

[inner olive]

LMAO fr

[prisma carbon]

Rimuru r6?

[glass yew]

I retract my statement

[tepid raft]

I needed dracula round 1

[sturdy umbra]

I guess I shoudl be asking "does it seem to be leaning that way" as in is he being used a shit ton, I see him everywhere atm

[olive jewel]

only one more minute to save to catch up to me

[inner olive]

i mean yes he's being used everywhere, but then again so is envy

[deep fractal]

yes it is that way on prio

[tepid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-no-chance-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16937115

[prisma carbon]

Rimuru r1 works better for me

[barren fjord]

he requires much more resources to be used in areas like cr and nc

[tepid raft]

Not me sadly

[prisma carbon]

Cooked

[sturdy umbra]

doesnt envy want 30960?

[barren fjord]

hybris wants 40960

[olive jewel]

Hybris needs si40

[sturdy umbra]

I see

[hexed mulch]

i think hes fine at 3f

[olive jewel]

cant get away without

[inner olive]

hot damn 🤣🫱

[sturdy umbra]

ok yea that makes sense to still prio envy first then

[tepid raft]

Damn region 9 people getting better fast last week i would have been top 200

[hexed mulch]

envy 3f is kinda peak

[sturdy umbra]

I guess if he gets prioed it would be over astrilda then

[inner olive]

isn't 3f and e30 fine

[deep fractal]

it doesnt

[pulsar marlin]

This isn’t t200 anymore

[hexed mulch]

yeah defo envy first

[pulsar marlin]

This is gonna end up like 1%, t200 now is like 2:10

[barren fjord]

true but i was mainly talking about nc and cr, but e60 is good for TS, the 9f doesnt rlly play too much of a part for TS bc he cant stack up that much

[hexed mulch]

but you could go for either tbh

[inner olive]

does fawkes need si40 for that r2 or are there other deciding factors

[deep fractal]

t200 will be 2m3 this week prolly

[inner olive]

my fawkes r2 doesn't kill he's 30360

[olive jewel]

smh r9 freegion

[sturdy umbra]

wait im big brain, I can just save 500 TE and decide then
ez

[deep fractal]

nvm 2m10

[prisma carbon]

R1 lan frontline better i think

[barren fjord]

new player realizes why they say to hold 500 TE

[olive jewel]

this is why we suggest this

[tepid raft]

Its getting tougher id have ranked last week now im 0.6%

[inner olive]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-yum-red-collar-gif-18686834

[deep fractal]

I though it was already like 2m8 smth but its 2m18 lmao

[pulsar marlin]

It isn’t I tried

[prisma carbon]

I got 26.5 sec

[deep fractal]

no thats no really 5head move. YOu'll endup building hybris still

[olive jewel]

1:40 for r7 last week

[sturdy umbra]

how long into an acc until im expected to get full CR rewards every rotation, im only 25 bil atm at 41 days

[deep fractal]

its getting harder. 1m37-8 is not that hard but not easy for no ody

[olive jewel]

What do you mean "full"?

[deep fractal]

if you miss one thing u are screwed

[inner olive]

i think he means the first hit rewards

[hexed mulch]

i wodner if woke prio will change again when i get my third 500 te

[sturdy umbra]

56 bil for all the chests

[inner olive]

yeah that

[olive jewel]

I get a 1:36 but now I have drac so should improve

oh

might take some time

but those are one time only

so

[pulsar marlin]

With oddy I might make t200

[tepid raft]

My r1 needs a few replacements lol

[deep fractal]

Ody round is pretty fake in r7 tho. Its only 4sec save

[sturdy umbra]

yoo im rank 1 on sever for LB tower lets goo

[inner olive]

hot damn

[deep fractal]

if you have good sion you can easily 17sec r5

[olive jewel]

4sec over what?

oh

[deep fractal]

than you elthara skylan asaf r4

[olive jewel]

I need Sion r1 tho

[glass yew]

How much we spending on new hb

[deep fractal]

just 5 sec diff assuming ur ody can 12 sec it. R1 there are lot of lot of variations

[olive jewel]

My issue is missing si40 Marci

[deep fractal]

Idk bout you. Am spending like 80$ to finish elthara

[olive jewel]

and just not being willing to make that investment for no reason

[deep fractal]

Am not going 800 for a single stupid unit

[inner olive]

no reason

[deep fractal]

well thats why you should sion r5

[glass yew]

Oh yeah u told me this already my b

[tepid raft]

Sion r4 gets 30sec which is way better than his r1 for me

[olive jewel]

then do what r1?

[deep fractal]

What is you mercing? Do you have either elthara skylan or pony27

[tepid raft]

😂 😂 😂

[olive jewel]

I could also 24 pony and stop using Marci at all

[olive jewel]

Elth

ody merc

[tribal schooner]

any e60 i should get? or hodl

[deep fractal]

WAIT you have ody than why are we talking bout marcille

[inner olive]

westy

[olive jewel]

r4 Marci because no pony 24+

[deep fractal]

whats the time off it

[pulsar marlin]

Damn lucky

[deep fractal]

mhm

[olive jewel]

17s

[tribal schooner]

really? thought she's aight with 30

[olive jewel]

it could be like 11 with Marci si40

[deep fractal]

Wait wait let me show you some clears I found out recently

[tepid raft]

Have you tried marci r5 i get 26secs youd probably get better

[olive jewel]

Thats the only major difference between Proxy and I

[olive jewel]

my r5 is 12s

[tepid raft]

Fairs

[olive jewel]

I have the ody merc

[tepid raft]

If i had a coll for pippa id be great

Also sig 40 is needed

[olive jewel]

I would be willing to make changes to comps for a better time but I cant make investments

just not worth

since even Proxy is not t50

and I am comfortable t200

so a new reward bracket is just not realistic

[tepid raft]

Whos a aurelia replacement i have no erosion colls

[barren fjord]

aurelia but with no erosion colls

[tepid raft]

Im getting 41 secs everytime with pippa team

[barren fjord]

no sait?

[tepid raft]

I have him

[tribal schooner]

i was using twins , if not aurelia

[barren fjord]

^

[tepid raft]

Same time rip

[copper vale]

Is my acc dead?

[deep fractal]

that low of a time is probably caused by pippa not being the highest ATK

[deep fractal]

very much

[ornate vortex]

Hello, i can't find uptodate collection guide. Mostly for new player priority or collection by characters.

[deep fractal]

+2 vault, +2 bounty, +1 offensive stats dancer, watch with hp, +2 horn, +1 storm with offensive stats, some wings(w/e), +1 zolrath col. I think thats all you need

[barren fjord]

isnt +2 horn kinda only for lev?

[grim hamlet]

If this is a question - yes

[tepid raft]

Not a question but thanks for reaffirming me

[ornate vortex]

Ok i need to process that 😬

[tepid raft]

I suck at english lol

[inner olive]

yes

[grim hamlet]

Yea Pippa doesn't work at all in that r3 without it

[tepid raft]

Whats sions ideal investment

[grim hamlet]

40960

Also his min lol

[tepid raft]

Oops sorry meant team i misstyped

[grim hamlet]

Like in ts?

[tepid raft]

Nc

[grim hamlet]

He's generally used in r1

[tepid raft]

Whats his r1 team

[grim hamlet]

But there's at least 3 rounds he's great in if not more including subbing for ody if you have one of the alts there

[tepid raft]

Thanks for help btw much appreciated

[grim hamlet]

That varies a lot. The one most use is sion lan up front and dae in p4

[deep fractal]

no need to overthink them that much. Whats called "BIS" cols are not as important as having the base. Also when looking into guides, dont overinvest into PVP cols they are so fake

[grim hamlet]

The other two spots there's quite a few options

[deep fractal]

like trying over and over to hit the perfect fatk flights... thats a very good noob trap

if uncertain what you are going for dont use miracle worker totems @ornate vortex

[grim hamlet]

Whoran, Jerome, safiya, velu, vei, I'm sure others too all kind of work

[charred jetty]

Now that the new HB has been out for -4 days, where do we think he places

[deep fractal]

I have a new take that levi is falling of meta

[charred jetty]

Huh

[inner olive]

it just gets worse every day with you

[charred jetty]

Surely not right

[deep fractal]

this misfortis guy is very close to him

[charred jetty]

I still have 3-4 teams fighting for Levi

[inner olive]

envy r2 with misfortis instead of levi trust

[deep fractal]

I tested misforti as mythic 20 is mine. He can easily sub levi in all NC CR AND TS

[inner olive]

someone test

[charred jetty]

Doesn’t Levi do a lot of buffing

[deep fractal]

he helped here. since am lacking chicken

He is giving similar wr in a classic t1,2 comp. Like westy levi/misfortis lan velu hybris

In NC I was able to peak 12s R2 with misfortis too

so yeh my take is levi slowly fading. Hes still very op unit and it'll be nice to have them both OBVIOUSLY, idk how will that affect the guides tho and early prioing

so ye we might see a shift toward something like

1 copy of elth > Lan > maybe new guy > Elthara > Skylan > Ody > Levi

[charred jetty]

HB idk anymore

[tepid raft]

Cr improvement lets gooooooo

[charred jetty]

Lowkey should we just tell them to hoard 3000 cards

The new trend you basically need the newest HB to do well in NC

[deep fractal]

Lowkey when they are ready to hit NC, they pull the lateast HB and have it set for 6 rounds thats like 6 months. THen hoard again

so pull lan hoard for another year and see whats meta

[past oar]

i hate this prio so much lol

[charred jetty]

Yeah

Wait skylan is way too high

[inner olive]

yeah

[deep fractal]

I hate it too yeh idk what am doing

skylan is fallign off too

[past oar]

like imagine building skylan in 2026 without if you're not spending 20k

[deep fractal]

Okay 1 copy of elth > Lan > ...(HOARD)

yeh yeh you are right

[inner olive]

1 elth > Lan > quit the game

[past oar]

imo lan should stay as the best hb for new players since i dont see her being crept before eos

[charred jetty]

This is very realistic

[inner olive]

y'all fw this ?

[charred jetty]

[inner olive]

actually

1 copy elth > quit the game

[charred jetty]

What does she do that’s so good again

[inner olive]

anti burst

[past oar]

give a lot of atk crit and increased dmg

and probably some other stuff but cba reading

[inner olive]

oh yeah and a lot of offensive buffs

[charred jetty]

Can’t she just be crept by other heroes buffing that too

[deep fractal]

Yes but I believe you agree that levi is following the skylan path right

[past oar]

not like 2-3 heroes better than her would yeet her out of nc

[deep fractal]

close to end of life def not worth for newbies

[charred jetty]

Is he though, I thought he was still meta in all three RGMs

Like we’d need a lot of heroes like misf to kick him out

It’s not just 1

[tepid raft]

Is this bad damage output

[deep fractal]

Well off course he is still. Just wait 2 months till all have 40960 misforti and you'll see what am tlaking bout

[inner olive]

maki sucks

[charred jetty]

But you only have 1 misf

[tepid raft]

Didnt ask if she sucks

[charred jetty]

And you have 6-7 slots to fill

[deep fractal]

the fact that this little fat guy works at e+ just 15-20% weaker than levi version is madness

[inner olive]

woah

he said it

[deep fractal]

like no newbie will build HB for 15% wr increase ( currently thats ody,skylan,elthara, seems like levi is going there too)

[inner olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104261782421393508/1475259278326628503/togif.gif

[charred jetty]

[charred jetty]

But he’s huge though

Much better than Alna in TS

[deep fractal]

wdym ALNA :d

why we comparing a shop hero to a highborn

[charred jetty]

But again you need more than 1 Levi role

Every team wants one if it can

Even if misf completely destroys Levi, he would still be a top HB

[deep fractal]

I mean yes but that scopes it as a skylan. Optional very nice to have TS unit

and you know we skip those

[plucky coral]

So am I an idiot or does Saveas kinda suck early game

Got him at epic+ just running through fodders

[inner olive]

yes to your second question

all the fodder heroes suck

[deep fractal]

before missfortis game was unplayable without levi. Now thats not the case, since he just got the perfect elite+ sub

[plucky coral]

Other question is are randle and lady simona worth investing in

Know you should wishlist them early but are they worth it long term

[deep fractal]

like wtf is this powercreepin maxbuilt HB with e+ stargazeable unit

[inner olive]

randle yes

[open oyster]

That's healthy for the game. Lets new players have a chance at playing

[deep fractal]

I agree yup

I like the fact that they did sheep 21 too, so f2p can catch a breath, build one of the two before it

Just can be quickly noted in guides that levi should def not be rushed

[open oyster]

What # prio is levi at in the guide?

[deep fractal]

and finally to put hybris where it belongs. That daily questions wheter people should do hybris or envy and then they argue about it that envy is better hybris is early to tell

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1496974284957028456/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide-1_page-0001.jpg?ex=69ec7e31&is=69eb2cb1&hm=796f2e7b91762fc80f46437d386e6ae1c8d6d2deef868b52173b32a796fc2d72&

[inner olive]

second