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DAE ult basically makes everyone take double damage but no one can die (both teams), but it allows heroes to ramp up
yk who can fix? right... rem hehe
steal debtor energy then share to funded allies
Like legit though
But he’d have to execute in 1 ult otherwise it’s gg
gorren also works since 3f and 9f
Mmh okay ty I need to read his spells again
is it normal that i have a ivan and a mira in day 2 f2p ?
normal
no i mean it works better without him
oh lol, for me hes working very well tho idk why
i can prolly start stargazing tmrw
after mid ch2xs he falls of for 1t camp
Quite lucky lol
hes very inconsistent tho, better for boss stages
I saw your pippaw rates too
afking with hybris 1t is hellish
very RNG and needs tailoring team every stage
Ill just assume theyre not f2p xDDD
that woud be nice
Or still missing wuci
stargaze strat i assume
Nah most ch32 people have awakened celepo
Yeah. Still almost 200 TE left and only missing Mae really

they gon get wrecked when dimensional tho
yea thats why they have a1 4fs aswell bud...
Yeah same as me
no 4f to link to lmao
Mae not worth
theyre 1 day in
Sounds about normal for 560 SGs
right
They probably just pushed tower pretty hard 
nah lwl level tower doesnt give SGs
370 is first+ tower gives no sg
they stargazed with all diamonds
20 max per day xD
=multi
you'd have to reach at least 121+ for SGs
which is where am at rn
yeah 2nd guy cooked
Wait until he realizes he should have done Knox 
where do I see the team for treasure corridor nigtmare corridor etc
dont worry about it
Oh yeah true
why

ts is your focus
hero swap
Or grit
I did very well in the first one
stuff like nc needs like 1 year + old acc to actually compete
You can grit celepo right
yeah can even grit draconics
I got leaderboard no 3 on Twisted Realm
tr u can copy whatever top teams
=coinsuage
we are and most people did, u can swap wukong but can't grit him
=coins
its pinned
What’s the command again
very f2p trust they just spent a lot of diamonds
Less than 400 TE on each
were aka not you are doing this already
I am stuck on 30-60 any advice guys?
Uh I mean for grit
its in pins too
but rest of the rgms u need 6 highly invested, insane colls and expensive teams of units
u cant grit wukong and flora
can't grit wukong no
wu kong is banned from grit
right... but why dont i have so manny diamonds
Oh
u nub hehehe

Swap scroll?
The succubus lady keeps one tapping my team
well tbf you did but you spent them all on 4f
nah swap scroll should be saved for draconics
The hybris meta lol
if u are at 30-60 then u have a longway to go, if u want to slam random units for a bit of reward fine, but it shouldnt be your focus
Nara pull her
that bans celehypos entirely not just wu kong and flora
Dosent work tried
they have more 4f at a buddy, thats not the point
Oh awesome 
ye ik that's definitely p2w
Nara Mika Gorok no one seems to stop her
mika
milka
Does but still lose
try Lyca instead of Mira
Use cover on Nara
meow
Haven't used any yet, should I go for Hawkes or the new guy ?
and use Barricade on Atheus
Okay
wait till hybris is tested in ts
Hmm
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Yeah we really don’t know atm 
imma spam ts so much hehehe
don't pull for anything yet
oki doki
I’m rooting for hybris
my game crashed as soon as i checked TS
rem 9f / gorren 9f / tavriel is going to carry him
im testing something similar at 5t lol
i have faith in hybris
Last I played everybody used Duras artifacr what went wrong
cant it trigger for all allies once, what needs to be targetted?
yeah but that'd require hybris with highest atk rating which i mean is what u should aim for in his comp
they added the shittiest feature ever aka ghoulish gallery
you can get colls from there and put specific stats on them
he meant as u shouldnt make rem 9f a target investment for TS
Also artifacts aren't allowed in a bunch of modes
oh yeah true
lessgo
No it’s a single strike of immunity and energy
If your idk, Jerome or something dies first then hybris is just cooked
frontline hybris
it triggers once per ally, what u should fear is rem dying first
Once per ally?
it triggers once per ally
yes
Wait what
Hypris has been very disappointing
yeah it's not 1 use in total lmao it's 1 use for every ally
in ch39 he still works 💀
Cuz he has potential
…
im using him c35 rn
Are you kidding me
36 and 37 also

Can we uh, rem first 
hes very inconsistent thats what he is
Let me guess you use Ivan gorok
no just ivan
O
in chap 40 1 copy won't work for sure
he's a good replacement to randle
the problem lies in his cheat death spam and the broken mult for ult
He’s good in Alna dae lava
How is he in late game
i saw usage at 52, 40 ish too
@pulsar marlin
gonna test rem vida gorren/dae/lava ivan hybris
i have
oh wait bro lwk M him alr
pretty sure peppa ascended him
faux vida 40 
lava ?????????
energy
I don’t push camp for 2 weeks
I got 3 copies of Pippa in 20 pulls btw 
blud
I’ve been using Randle he wins then replace him with hypris and it doesn’t win
Even when he ults

Very bad
using the wrong team then
then hes not a randle replacement if they dont work in the same team
tavriel instead of mia if you have
but tbh dae feels awkward id rather put in ashem sjw, my gorren invest is lacking, and lava in TS 
both use cheap ass team
This is literally randle solo comp without talismane
did you try with other pets ? treat is kinda already used in knox
This was the strongest team too not the weakest
Uh pony sometimes works
i thought u were fucking garunteed 1 copy on ur first 10 pull?
Are you trolling me
game is unplayable
nub
ama go eat outside, see yall later
Past 2 woke pulls were 60 te each 
This is funny lol
yeah hybris
Wow that’s crazy
why u use talismane with hybris backline 
and tamrus a little at the start
But where is the damage
hybris is frontline peak adhd
He’s not back line tho
Wait am i blind
Tav
Btw why doesnt your hybris tweak out
Wym
hes not spamming his abyssal centipede even tho no enemies in domain
Hes not spamming that spike skill to stack immunity layers
mine did allat then ult and dealt massive damage
Yeah your hybris is looking way too normal
Fr even my hybris absolutely slams everbody
domain larger than your mum in 2 seconds
I cant replicate my comp rn because accidentally T4 weapon alvida
No way for hybris to surpass gorren atk
@solar fractal he needs to tweak out like this
Lyca gives haste
thong bao

Yeah thats what i’ve been telling, but some tested without lyca and its also tweaking, lemme try no lyca
gng Mika Aethus Gorok my 3 choices to swap with shem for ascension
what's most valid
is there a cap to how many immunity instances he can stack
gorok, if you really gonna swap a 4f hero
can u show box?
@solar fractal no lyca
Try with no lyca its almost the same for me
people need to invest in screen capture
Interesting combination with Icariel
I threw in whoever didnt have more ATK than hybris
where even is that shem 💔
It just works like magic idk why
oh you are yet to ascend
Wdymmmmm
you could do mira tbh, before gorok
Icariel needed SI30, right?
I dont wanna use fodder just yet
Or what was the minimum investment?
Can you explain please
explain what
Why mika>gorok
so is this asshole good? cuz HE SEEMS BROKEN AS FCK
both mira and gorok are great 4f heroes, you want them ascended at some point anyways
Also no lyca, needed to test lower for no ivan
not sure which is better, but maybe push your graveborn roster for factional tower rewards
Are they worth it
=guide yes they are both meta
@charred jetty ok I changed my mind
My past medias recently is just all hybris lmao
Get one copy when you unlock te
Bro knew ball
what coll does hybris want?
Rn need more testing but i believe for earlygame he needs +1 cover without 3f and later on something like aatha’s coll
ty ty
I mean its not like theres anyone else other than cha and aatha using that coll
+1 cover for TS, +1 dancer NC/CR(?), atk cda, pp works too
ok did they fix hybris iframe bug @drifting hemlock
he's not spamming iframes anymore for me
No hes still doing that shi for me
Maybe bcuz your comp deviates from mine a lot
Mine is consistently that way, not always clear but hybris is 100% going to tweak out
Who should I e30 ? I have ressources to e60 AFawkes in one copy and have enough for a 3nd one
Was thinking about Aure
Envy first
Then aure straight to e60
Some good e30s in there is shuna selene
Ngl why did u overinvest gorok
Oh e30 jerome too
e30 selene shuna gorok e60 envy aure fawkes
how do I stop randle from taking 5 hours to do 1 crit
By making him crit
gang
BRO LEVEL 100 RANDLE IS GETTING FUCKED
and i dont have him E+
ow
Diddyblud no E+ randle is skissue
dude i have 5 simona 3 ivan 1 randle
just got back playing did many mistakes, who should i build
prob restart
What was ur team again?
ngl too tiring
required if you want to be competitive. if you do not care can still play on that one
Check past messages
afk wiki is so sad it hardly gets updated
yeahhh i dont really care about competitive just want to slowly build me heroes
the afk wiki is the = guide command
I mean he's L
so he's missing, well, just about everything lol
still gets the job done eventually ig
honestly seems like more of a tav showcase
Triple tasi should be illegal
@charred jetty so have you managed to find somewhere you can actually try this guy in camp or is every account you push camp on walled hard enough in 78 that one new woke isn't enough lol
Now that the new NC boss is out and AWAthalia still sucks, should I swap her for Zohra?
who can u swap
can u swap hb
I have both lan and Levi built
And no dgwynn to swap for skylan
Only other option would be serenmira for Selene but that’s just preference
do u use athalia anywhere
I mean yeah but Zohra is also used across the RGMs
And I feel like she is more relevant now no?
i'd say yes but wait for more advice
watha fall off is diabolical
we don't know if he will
i remember prio bein ashem, then watha, then hold lol
ts hasn't started buddy
Eh they actually have equivalent usage scores according to that one guide on reddit
dont look at guides on reddit ngl gang
fr
getting advice from reddit is peak brain damage
when is woke zolrath dropping
I see on the guide that Bronn is on the wishlist, is he that useful in campaign?
=ratio
no
but everyone else is worse
This dude being a warrior most likely removes her from everything except TS tbh
but I don't think she's leaving the lys team there for a while for most people. Except people that can afford to put fawkes there, then I guess she's just dead or filler
hes decent in early TS. Particularly ice debuff. which is more then you can say for anyone else after him
wait you can go to si50?
yes
@inner olive im getting there-
PAUSEEEEEEE
what are we doing man
nah ts easy
o
is anyone here to help me real quick? its bout my arena formation 😭
And I'm still at 37-16
What do you need?
i dont know why i lose this fight tbh, can you help me with a good formation what is meta? 😭
shuna & elthara instead of randle and ivan
shuna in front and elthara behind? 😭
thank you ❤️
oki well ive beat every team in 38-44, now I just have to wait 2h for the autobattle to do them all in a row
I think my team2 clearrate is like 1/200
I miss the days when autobattle let you start from any one of the battles and not require you go in order from 1 to 5 
How is Envydiel as first Awaken?
though i don't miss the days when they capped autobattle to 10 failures before it auto stopped
we had that?!?
WHY WOULD THEY TAKE THAT AWAY
my first awakend was a single copy of shemira, then 1 of fawkes then i went for envy haha 🙈
makes fun!!
They decided we wanted background autobattle more ig? idk. The current auto battle you see came from companions. The old one did not run in the background, you had to sit in the battle and couldn't leave. But it let you start from any round. AFter victory it would go to the lowest number round remaining but you could just stop it and then go to a different one
you also could stop it mid batlte and it would play that one out. Rather then immediately ending wherever it is
oh you can actually still see it
rift was never updated
continue
if you go auto there its basically the same as it used to be everywhere
Oh yeah it used to start on the battle that you started on
yep
if I was back in beginning camp again I don't think I'd even use autobattle tbh
Id just bust out macroify
macros are decent if you don't have autobattle unlocked but autobattle is just better
when all 5 are a struggle it feels pretty obnoxious how it works now forcing you to start from 1
but why cant I start it on team 3 and after its done 3, 4 and 5 it fights team 1 & 2
like this isnt a pick one situation. you can very easily pick both, its like 20minutes to program that...
they litoerally unprogrammed that lol
that's what we had
and like i said, it still exists in rift
add a few hours in administration, peer review & testing... you can give that to a junior dev
well you make it sound like they copy pasted logic from companion but then didnt re-add the logic we had
well i mean it changed a ton
so like the old autobattle was basically the same as a human sitting there and pressing battle
but as fast as possible
anyway
it sucks when im struggling with battle 4 but to autobattle it has to go through all, especially if my team 1 has like a 10% winrate
the new one is not really like that
I need 10x battle speed 🙏
it treats you looking at it as an option but its just kind of running in the background
admittedly the new one has its persk
we used to have these hacks we'd use. For when you got stuck on like battle 4 out of 5 and realized you needed a merc
fr my attention span too low for ts
I know for a FACT that this clears but its like 0.5% winrate
cause you coudln't leave so you had to do tricks with messaging to go grab a merc
now you just press auto battle and go do that lol
since you can leave
or if you forgot to put someone on RC you needed
still hate that I cant switch armor when I already beat 1 team
you know lys is nerfing knox there right?
like bud, let me switch armor on the units that havent been used yet... just make me unable to unequip the ones that have beaten their team
not really a "nerf"
but lys dying can make knox pop his flight cuz of the death damage
"lys"?
love you sister
lysander?
no hes buffing the shit out of knox 
lysol
Knox usually runs to the otherside and knights
he gets knighted within the first like 15sec
ye but lys king can fuck knox
But yeah make sure he’s actually doing that in the replay
?
my problem is dps
I often lose cuz im like 2 seconds too slow
Reducing his attack and defense by 40% is not a nerf? 
The save only uses rooks
65% damage upon his death
Oh
I know this team clears, it has cleared before
its just incredibly unlikely
lemme see
read the rest of the skill?
Not enough to do anything when Lys only E
then he turns into a knight when he goes near the enemy backline which he always does and gets an 80% atk and def rating boost
Becomes a buff when Knox knights yeah
sometimes knox genuinely doesnt hit the back line ever lol
how long does it take him to do that though lol
like 5 seconds fr
sometimes he does it instantly, sometimes he literally never does its funny
they all die instantly, theyre just there for the faction bonus
but knox doesnt care whatsoever about that
his whole thing is he runs laps around the field so he gets knighted fast
is it actually guaranteed? like if the backline is stationary people he's gonna run away from them
yea it is guardian
Have to fiddle with the comp ye
guardian 🥀 guaranteed
well I can promise you that this comp does clear this battle and that knox does run to the backline
ive been watching it for an hour now
chasing that mythical clear
1 RC level would fix me-
I guess cruke fixes that
Do you have Mehira
Mehira gives haste buff
it sucks so much to have cleared it and then have to change a later team...
bet
I know exactly what you mean 
I have olgath & kalthin
kraken boy
at this point I should read their skills and check if theyre better
Is Knox SI40 that big of a buff for him ? I’m wondering
it's some kind of damage buff i forgot I think it's 100%
kalthin is
kalthin pulls the entire team to him
instantly
gets rid of the stationary problem, very nice grouping
Reach top 2% in NC 🙂
cruke kind of does that too though. not quite as fast about it. but he's also nice at 1 copy for that reason
olgath is totally useless
Not even 100 iirc
I use him with Fawkes and Lysander rn so I’m more about the stuns and stall chasing him
cruke and kalthin are more useful at one copy then olgath is full built 
and then orthos heals himself to oblivion
nah it cleared
💔
@summer vector quote
I might need to push Camp 💔😭
@summer vector catch up slowpoke
fyi there is no knight above his head
I think your lys might be dying before even getting to do his thing
it doesn't show up in auto battle screen peak brain damage
idk why actually
that makes sense
it would show the pawn sign if he was a pawn but it doesn't because it doesn't appear in autobattle
but yeah he was most definitely knighted
if its just autobattle then whatever
also he would do about 4 damage if he wasn't knight lol
but he can actually die before making the board
also I lied
it wasnt believe
the difference was switching collections on the fodder to stuff that game team atk%
he can't actually
he can. ive seen it lol
gave my knox like 6% more dmg
but dont tell anyone
wild, never seen that
its wild how many whales ive caught up to in campaign now
these people were ahead by 5+ chapters on the rest of the pack for ages but now I got my knox & fawkes it took no time to catch up and now im ranked 7th 
theres still the top 4 whales who are 1-2 chapters ahead on the rest of us but like, wild
I wonder if theyre just shit at the game and built useless stuff
yes precisely
my RC is many levels lower than them
Am I safe finishing my M40 AwFawkes?
or they don’t push
this one guy is 2ch ahead and 103 RC higher
bro should push 
don't si40 if he's only m
im RC273 hes RC376
like i pushed to 46, and i cant see myself pushing further anytime soon lol, i dont see the point
cuz if he's at m I assume he would be your first si40 and that's bad
He’s already 40
ohh
yeah
fawkes is still priority 1
He’s like my 7th
nuh uh
hybris alna in ts trust
yuh uh
Oh?
rem daemia is all i need bud
Is it?
diddyism
did i show u my ts teams lol
no he untested in ts
u did but I forgor
Picked an intentionally stupid fight to prove a point
do we know approximately when are the next heroes released in garrison?
ok i pushed a chapter and a half with hybris trial
oh that's interesting actually
but tbf this would never happen in campaign
no mirael I don't give a fuck
whenever devs decide it's time
probably not until you find trish no lol
then maybe
right after you decide to work on someone else in garrison
whale team
yeahh.. good answer
=restarting
so like 6 months maybe? idk the usual "frequency"
well shally took year and a half
=te
Woke Prios and TE income:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
last time it took over a year
which one
So how is hydrogen looking so far in pvp
hypnotic
amazing, u should restart so u can build him first
how are ur colls looking on ur new acc
hyperbolic
I built him 10 min after he released 
didnt do them ye
=guide
I couldn't. I was asleep. I built him 10 min after I woke up instead
u dont have fligts on ur ivan and randle?
I got hosed on rates 
580 for 12 
at least it was a woke though
HB would've been 
well actually 580 for 12 is good for an HB lol
but equivalently bad rates for an HB would've sucked ass 
Damn I thought I was unlucky with 530
Yeah 
I do wish I was able to save more TE though, do want to backbuild mae eventually
how many di on average for A lan
50 per copy
12*50
most people are quite happy if they actually get that too lol
50 per copy seems very optimistic
Isn’t Leviathan better or same tier as Lan ?
2% ? Isn’t it 2.5 ?
not for HBs
no it's 2% for dragons
wokes and celepogs used to be 2%
they added dragons and bumped them to 2.5% and put hbs at 2%
They also added totems into the drop table for wokes and celepogs then which was pretty nice. Instead of the useless artifact shards 
shame they refuse to make the drop table for dragons more sensible
was praying on hybris’ downfall so i could get maetria finally, maybe next time
I mean it wouldn't even matter if he was bad lol
+1.8% damage in CR makes him better then mae
It's 2% total including pity
even if he's useless
true chat
its alright MS is happening again
He looks very strong even if he isnt a dmg dealer in TS he will be very strong as a support anyways
i only have 350 emblems but i’m definitely building him next so i might just start pulling early
just another half decade or so and you can build mae from that 
yeah 20 shards per MS woooooooo
Just need to hope for 10 premium chests drop 
things I've still never seen:
- 30k dia from any summoner
- red chest in MS
- triple on any temple or sg pull
Oh okay thanks
ive gotten the 30k but thats it
@summer vector alright show him the triple knox son
I didn't get 3 yet but I got it for hb 2 weeks ago 
actually i might have it in my gallery lemme dig
banned
Somehow I still ended with avg pull rate so thattt kinda shows how my pulls were for the most part 
koyo got both of these
gonna pull hybris rn and get a triple pull AND 30K dia (im going to get 4 copies in 300 pulls)
R8 I CANT LEAVE U
damn. yea sg always hates me, its my worst rates lifetime
tes were above average until hydrangea
Nuh uh R8 mickey mouse anywayd now 
that was pretty bad lol
surely with r8 splitting i get consistent DI now
Truuu
Finally 🥹
yhyh velufira coll trust
Don’t tell me Hybris is 1st prio 409e60 pls thanks 🙏
there's is and mp close enough
this is how r7 felt... for a year. Then they were very glad to be where they were lol
=restarting
😂
Maybe
R9 is 90 servers tho
oh ye these my ts teams I forgor to show
i believe in the 5%<
yea it should be easy for a while. But all new servers and new whales funnel there. By the split r8 was the 3rd hardest region
btw hybris w/o being the highest atk inthe team might not be too great in TS
still 40% damage reduction for 8 seconds lol
Ye I assume it will prob be similar for r9 when its time
it's decent anti burst and hold up I just had an idea
hybris in alvida for the damage reduction to pray alvida doesn't combust
its 60% atk loss, and if an enemy goes into ur domain its 40% atk loss again
I'm guessing you don't have 1 copy of gavus lol
sadly no
i got 140 te tho
definitely don't lol
i did ivan and randle ascended and i have mira 11 copies and bron 8 can i now switch to another faction when i pull with factions scroll?
did you pull 1 copy of hybibi?
ye
ik i'm gonna build him very soon

over fawkes?
also he works in camp at 1 copy somehow
everyone works in camp at 1 copy lol
fawkes is staying m30 for 49 trillion years probably
damn
go get abel. she still works in LB tower at one copy
even where I am
I see her in lists
tower and camp different things
if she was good in camp i would probably do it
get 1 copy aw brutus
as in rewards
right cause the camp rewards suck and the tower ones don't lol
ah but towers lwk give better rewards cuz there's te
I wait for this mystic starzone for ages I will finnaly be able to "construict" out of the puzzles a single copy of abel so am not stuck forever in lb tower
but you forget that in tower you get powercapped every 2 seconds
in campaign you don't at least not at my stage
Guys can I ask for TS comps ? I have a decent box but not sure of the interactions during TS I’m not that familiar at pvp
soon? that's like 7 whole chapters away
you cant use 1 copies at camp you need power cap
how do you know?
this is horrible right
i actually don't know
8 for 326? no that's average
its pretty average
Try to copy top 100 in your region
💀
12 copies at 40 would be 480
show some ss
unfortunately im out of TE for now 🤷🏼♂️
Okey 😂
I send Ss wait
ok new players go copy casuals teams in ts t20 guaranteed
I said t100
I mean if they can that's probably true lol
trust
t100 r54 is brutal rn lmao
Not 1st place
i mean you technically can copy them if you have every hero at 1 copy
yea that's not gonna work lol
it's not gonna work obviously but you can
THEY CAN AT LEAST GET SOME INSPIRATION RIGHT?????
t100 r42 is eluding me the past couple rounds
from casual's comps? yeah no.
Im going to krill u
in what way
look lower. can check like t20-t50 ranked players from tangledspore.
can check hana, etc etc.
oh wait, can copy arc! no sai there 
its difficult to get. lots of new whales have built units.
also gg you got 0.5% ts
(sorry that was mean lol)
absolutely! ill share comps >:)
some better cookening will get you t100 trust
I see alot of familiar faces in here
whaaaat…. uh wdymmm? 🗿
what's your ts rank?
icl top 0.5% with pure rbsg teams is impressive
last ts was .5%
In TS?
ye
9
ig i wanna get t100 this TS lowk
you are a kraken who spends 300/week and still aren't t100.
t100 r54 is rough lol.
and halfway through that ts i wasnt even setting teams until 5t tbh
OP, CC T1 soon.
We must laugh at him
if you saw his teams you would instantly understand why hes not t100
no i only started spendin heavy like midway thru that ts, and also my teams were horrid lmao
only teams that matter for final calc is 6/7T so the previous teams don't matter at all really
My TS team ? 🥸
son you can't just rbsg it
What ?
what even is team 2 🥀
rbsg = random bullshit go
yeah and casual clutched up for me and got me my .5%, but this ts im gonna be t100 10000%
=rbsg
big spending = t100. bu
oh they added it back?
Lol okay didn’t know
that's funny
yep
I thought ana nixed it
before saitama/sjw, you will struggle against those with those units in the region.
😭😭
=guide
So any ideas ? Idk if Hybris at L gonna do smth
even spending only gets you so far...
i have sait, just no sjw, honestly if they add him to the 100$ pack ill probably buy him insta
hes not
burst is sketchy here rankings are never 100% guaranteed
like how do you compete against that in r54...
social justice warrior is my fav hero
Yeah that’s what I thought, trial is dope tho 👀
not in TS nope.
a lot of money
Even built ?
100k a week is my new budget
we dont know about built, but at L he def wont lol
anyways you should make fawkes mira and knox their own team, mira knox can go into seal team with stuff like flora, talene, icariel, shalltear, anything that's untargetable or tanks a lot will work in seal team
if you can somehow manage to make him highest attack rating at L on a meaningful team and turn his sp on then ig he could be a decent SP bot
but I have no idea how you'd do that lol
can I have 50k, once 🥺 ?
of course bbgorl
oh so m40 is not a variant either if thats the case
built needs testing but is squishy iirc.
probably finds its spot as a sub in another BIS core.
yeah he has to have the highest atk to be rlly good
his sp still gives 40% damage reduction for all enemies for 8 secs even with low cmbr
Okay thanks
so after i 40960 hybris, should i move on to west instantly?
damage reduction in pvp really doesn't matter much. if it odesn't stuff all damage or cheat death its kind of irrelevant
in smallbox, you run every built woke you have though.
pretty sure ye
everything is too op and bursty. Even CC effecfts people don't bother with anymore, it just doesn't matter
would tjis work for west? or does she want cover/rose
that's good enough.
maybe in early TS though idk
cover is a warrior coll nd rose is nc only i think
oh yeah i knew it was one of those 2
i meant the uhhh other tank one that atheus runs
i'm thinking of bounty
wes used to wear it in r1 (she doesn't anymore in r6). ody sometimes wears it in r5
+2 anoki is the real pvp col
yea. that's the optimal one
watch is NC
anoki is what exactly?
its quite good
and anoki is quite expensive for essentially a pvp only coll
watch +0 is common
or +1 sometimes
I don't like it when I have my f.atk watch instead of anoki I lose to random ppl in the arena when I attack that never happen when am equipped with the anoki
horn or w/e you know cols are after champion signatures items
ohhh right horn
ye ik they're named after si but i didn't know horn was called anoki coll
is there a coll priority list?
well yea I mean arena uses RC. So your HP pool is huge and so is that shield. Its definitely way better there. But arena also doesn't really matter
I'm not good with names I never learned what is saurus col called and zolrath
in TS at rc 360 anoki is better but watch is also quite good
I also use "envy" col lmao
saurus is dancer and zolrath is temporal cover
shields are really solid if you run triple tanks
anoki +2 with HP and IS definitely has its place on HP scaling heroes. But watch is essentially free energy sand stuffs a hit
that's also quite nice and much cheaper
and on people that don't scale HP that shield is small
@grim hamlet What do you think whats next
mage 77
I was thinking for tank 47 to get the haste
honestly I'd swap mage/cele. (for nc only)
is mage really that bad early game now?
but I tested with mage 107 and it didn't improved any NC timers
my pippa round is still 24.57 and fawkes 21
with 107 vs 37
are any of the lowborn dragons worth upgrading to mythic?
for early game it's one of the 2 you should level up first but mugi isn't in early game
with cele 107 I angle 26 sion r5 and possibly with tav e60 am doing I can try for envy 15-6s r4
nah wait till 8 copies
I'm not really sure tbh... thats why I asked, I'm not sure bout the impact it has on other modes despite NC that seems whatever for now
can we plz get a tree guide 🙏
actually i guess there aren't really any m ages left in NC are there? as dps's anyway
pippas attack does matter though. even if sh'es not dps
otherwise I'd do 77 sup/mage/cele, 25 tank/warrior
oops, wrong reply
elth, aure, pippa,
anyone have a big watha i can merc for my new acc?
yes I think I actually sniffed that pretty well. mage seems fake
I have Envy and Fawkes rn
@barren fjord can you send your box? im just curious of what you have
shouldn't be from tree at least. all percentage so it should be smaller with or without tree
77 support and 107 also did nothing, as haste scalling is capped at 77
on the new acc?
on your main
well yes and no. There's another part to mage. They're one skill adds teamwide energy on ult, increasing every 15 levels up to 150 I believe?
so my only thought was get them tanks haste they can do good in TS CR maybe nC no idea
then yeah, non-built wokes won't do very well
the 46-8 one
so even if mages are out as DPS's mage tree might have an outsized impact
I guess I'll re-test when I can 2 branches at 107 to see whats the best all-rounder
meanwhile I finally gotta work on warrior 
it was so nice to not care about it 
Goddamn hippopotamus
What is the idea behind using brutus in r3 NC?
only if you use dracula with him tho it is meaningless otherwise
I mean its still attack
thats with 18 tree. I get lower times on the other acc with 57 tree no idea how
=guide
up to 107 at least. the flat stats don't matter in NC really
I would go balanced if you aren't going to nc.
77 sup/mage
47 cele
25 tank/warrior
i am the biggest NC sucker :d
I guess with r9 out, t200 for you as a spender is viable
I think I found my condition to t200 but need ody merc and to build beefy hybris asap
@idle thorn specifically the level 3. That's the only thing that really matters - "can't be dodged"
Oh. Ig I needed to check his skills before asking
just build both and problem solved :D
boss has a shitton of dodge. Drop him and watch randle snakes miss more then they hit
Interesting. And what is the point of backline sai? Execute?
conveniently below sai's isntant execute threshold
its so tragic there isn't a sai sub...
almost like the boss was designed specifically for him 
Damn almost t100 😭
You know am still vip13 am not kraken I gotta think to perform good.
But this setup with e60 tav and some IS will prolly give me 12 sec -> 10 sec cut
I can move envy r2 over fawkes thats 7 seconds cut
and I can do Ody for 4 sec cut in R6.
A total of 21 sec, which gets me to 1.53
yeah if i had good teams before casual stepped in maybe coulda been somethin lol
next boss sion frees up so if he doesn't find new crazy time saving BiS round, I should be able to try and t50 again.
Lock in this TS simple
grrr build selene
thats the plan
no lys is next, and then…. should be a new celepog
vip 13 = a decent bit lol.
more than I've spent in my time playing afka
why all factions scroll on gb?? i hate them i have too many of them can i switch up?
as soon as i finish hybris w sg, im going straight to building lys, i have 5 furn for him alrdy lol
bruh, you have like 4 heroes i dont, and you are much much better in TS 😭 im 100% copying your teams
once you get ivan/randle/mira to A1, you can swap
pet diff
why lys 4th over lib lol
perfect i have all of them
fuck am i gonna do w lib? be bored?
now that r9 is a thing nc is actually something you should somewhat focus on
with whcih faction??
possble, but my teams are not the shiniest either
well yeah I got my pony 24 today :proud: sadly It didn't moved an inch the stupid fawkes r3. This shit scales only with belgris TY and nothing more

and lib is a free kill in nc
sigh u right, but i think u forget that, i can just build lib after lys lol
ngl why do you even want lys 4th
for alucius, if going from e60 to e80, what would be the best stats to upgrade for him in terms of the engraving?
bc
well you're done with camp now so you dont really need lib yet. he doesn't have a home in NC but he may find one sooner or later. He is a core of the orthros comp that always weaves its way back in.
I hate collections, I'm never gonna get that TY col for him, been trying for months now
wdym hes homeless in nc ? everybody still uses him
yeah im gonna do lys, and then after that either hold till a new celehypo, or maybe build alna/lavatune
in nc? no, he is not BiS this rotation.
oh he is used in kraken r5
uuuuuh
well if you can afford the kraken r5 with oddy + pegs 36, you can use him :D
oh also even people with no oddy still use him in that one marci talimar laios team
And how it is supposed to be done with no sai?
ask arc
that team doesn't even have orthos sometimes
I'm lost on this one. why is lib orth ody kraken now?
nvm they using lavatune now 💀
Yeee what an average whale looks like :d
istg like yesterday everybody was using lib marci talimar
nah hes not ran in this R6 it gives much lower time
oh no nvm they use him
noo its not used
not necessarily kraken, but big box
Yeah was gonna say. Merc ody here but otherwise reasonable comp
most players I know can't afford to run oddy.
you just slam palmer forget about the si40 100 furn 88 haste lib
merc oddy is usually the issue lol.
either finding him or needing another merc
his whole guild got him 😄 its issue for us
Because not everyone is that rich 😭
oh actually most people have lava in that team I was talking about
I mean not really. nihi is also desperate for oddy mercs lol.
just not the close center circle.
ain't nobody using lib in there that was just because of yesterday's split
Any chance you could've helped with this? @harsh acorn
Are you saying I should pull him 
fawkes for 28s or merc saitama.
pull pull pull (prob wait for next hb to be safe)
you shouldn't look at NC leaderboard these ppl even at R9 server 1120-30 is 3 years old
I mean could pulling him get you t50? unless you're in r8 cc
idk but I doubt it. not this week
no bunny, pony, ody or drac seems like too much
but we'll see where the line ends up
wheres ur bunny and pony lol
not 27 so they don't matter lol
24 >:) (ponih)
I mean I use pony ig
how is a t50 player not having these
he is t200
I don't care about seconds yet xd. I just thinking how to kill few bosses on small box account xd. How does fawkes team looks like? So far looks like r1 & r3 easiest from few tries I had so far
I mean maybe its possible to t50 in r9 without those but I doubt it
I did t50 for 8 weeks without pony or bunny 27.
then oddy came out and now I can't get it without saitama (although at kraken invests)
but we'll know on monday
Pull pull pull
smallbox is different. you've probably got to ask around and see
I think he’s worth
you miss si40 randle and 27 bunny oh boi
only a few slots I bet. and itll be pretty whale-y subs that make it to t50
Do you think Levi prior than Lan ?

btw arc I got my reso 18 pets today
:D showcase gogogo
I was really busy at work and forgot to SS ;d
its actually 26 now so should be a little improvement. On gus I remember that dropped a couple seconds. Can't do 14s without way more kraken invests then I have or 27 though




