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Im like js super not able to focus
he has lava
oh wait nvm i saw the 1 elite copy and thought he didn't have lava
I guess 😂
Well un-ADHD it then, because it will be more difficult for you to compete if you don't be patient and avoid being hasty

Well ig imma be patient and study for now
Maybe i should wait for new one ?
yeah imo just hoard you have everyone
Can start by not look at what other people are progressing, those who push faster sometimes will slip, and then you move past them and probably never see them again
Dog js came out so dont except a celehypo soon
you can build freaky dog if you really wanna spend sg but not needed
is lucilla si not good in classic
lucilla isn't good in classic in general
wait nvm he has lucilla m
you could get 5* lavathune or wPippa for sole NC purposes
ive made alot of progress on kt twin
next patch we might be getting woke cele/hypo we'll see tomorrow since pippa ship is gone
woke desira when
Well theyre wokes so its different
Hat second coming?
Good 👍
could consider seren
like 50 floors so far
nihi sucks
=ascend
Thats so much
am i hat now
=wishlist
with what power 
Seren still works fine at 30 or not? I feel like the performance R6 is js not very good without 40
1235 RC 😄
seren does want 40 yeah
sion r6 or marcille
can I have like, 20 of that? ty
big RC is the answer to KT
i pushed a humble 1 stage btw
check DMs
i got 7 jerome, should i use this to pull for jerome and A him? or save for ivan
Marcille
does dust stay the limiting factor for RC or do you eventually run out of XP? 
Ivan > Jerome
Nah
dead acc ? why u got ts
wait wrong pic
also how do you keep getting more ascended units if you stop pulling 4f? just random elite cards from stargazing/temple of time?
yeah exactly
i meant this
I have run out of xp before runing out of dust. rc312
Dust is the limiting factor
either way seren has use with zohra in TS which is okay at 30960. Mine is 30f2e60 but is not working in R6 sion, si30 selene is outperforming her
save for ivan yea?
Damn
at one point hero xp becomes the second limiting factor close to dust
275 rc, same issue, don't got enough xp
What do I do now
Eventually you run out of dust and exp goes up way too much to be used
krill dreamy
push 7 chapters
Stop being so clingy about climbing to top
99% of the time the answer to your question of
"should I rush A now or save for B"
the answer is B
youre so damn early game, youll still get lots of pulls all the time
and then who you wanna pull changes
finishing jerome or ivan a day sooner rlly isnt gonna help rn, keep those attempts for later when you no longer do 50 pulls a day and instead it becomes 2 pulls a day
being a bottom is better fr
funny enough im running out of gold after buying the baits every month 😭
not every resource has to be spent the moment you get it
That's good thing, the baits are way more worth than a stinking couple of levels
💳
"Oooh shinies! Must use them all up" - 99.5% of beginner mentality
big fan of being a bottom myself
ye im not doing it
some mass leveling once in a while
meanwhile im just used to idle games where you dont use any resource outside of events so like im chilling
I unironically asked if I should use diamonds on pulls 
first ever copy somehow
when sai coming to garrison
Use them when it's meaningful to do so, like TS calculation rounds where you need that surprise extra boost
thats 1 copy more than I have
sai selene would be such an awesome early game comp
Is Selene confirmed to be a high prio
for camp yeah absolutely, would allow you to use alvida in another team
it's still debatable whether daemia or selene is better second
Because if not that's not going to work, Knox is still #1 and second one is actually quite far away
I mean consensus seems to be that selene is pretty trash at TS
it was pretty unanimous when I brought it up
Selene is versatile, but it's difficult to find a place she's good for, but she can fit in many teams
uh what
yeah imagine no 100% winrate, selene trash
nice team 4
and if i actually look at the replays it's not like selene does nothing she's usually around or higher than randle in damage
Not showing team 5 
18% but the conversation is about early ts so winrates in low ranks do matter
wow chat bronn bis ts ?
not even gonna mention the 5 star e80 randle
bronn is pretty good without the crazy woke and HB gank
yeah bronn is great in TS when you outinvest your enemy by 4x
See? This is the sort of problems you can't avoid as a %er, the comps are too unpredictable to climb
thats a bit funny xd
@drifting hemlock
Fountain Rank 9 Region 53
LMAO
Reason why many stuck at 1% at the end is because, normally they could climb fast with their reasonable comps, but then they keep facing the morons who come up with ass teams
Nc low budget box team
@pulsar marlin
selene sub? 
Team R2 for reference
Wanna do my TS teams :d i still havent done them
later
Ok
it is outperforming 3060 serenmira by far I tested pretty much everything shes giving the best time. Prolly 40960 serenmira and 20960 mellion are on par
dracula no 30960 grr
You need 20336 (27LL) for NC
Wish me luck on the Belgris copies im going for him
am trolling
does sung need e60 or its a whale/late game investment
i have neither fucc
ill need to cook but your clears are a godsend mugi thank you
but 30960 is good tho for ts
sung always needs e60 pretty sure
Ur Welcome you can view my full clears in TangledSpored discord in NC-6teams thread. I always post on both accounts
can a trusted 78-5 player confirm this
@prisma carbon son can you confirm ts
yeah i have been ive been trying your clears but im slightly slightly behind so i need to cook a bit
Why is bro doing this on perpose
How much investment SJW needs depend on your region and how comfortable you can rank
what does his e60 do again am lazy
least vague advice
In some regions people could get away without and save 800+ reds, and still be stepping on people for top 10
SI40 is more poison damage which is straight up more offense
i e60ed SJW fairly early and honestly kind of regret it, its a good e60 for TS but there are other priorities honestly. its the only invest i regret so far
i only see tung tung tung sahur there
dmg amp
oh some self buff alr
ok but if you put like Oddy in that spot, the WR would be higher
see
does he need si30? or its 20 or 40 situation
jokes aside, can you test with like uh rem or something instead of selene and see how it compares?
me no having rem
Well who else besides Saitama wants the SI30? 
Something something dim emblem is free
and if I did she wouldn't even be 9f
wait true
Boutta spend 30k gems fro dragons :d
also shuna garrison expires today for me so expect my ts to die
?
People keep going "It's X or Y angle" and forget that even weak upgrades, is upgrade, it may not be worth it, but still makes them slightly stronger than X
who the heck did you garrison
shuna
saving rest of lab coin for wu kong stuff man i dont have a choice
Ye same when Dracula is gone im doin Shall and Shuna
talimar ? oh also i need shuna replacement because uh shuna expires today
im asking coz someone said yesterday for example with alvida, its 20 or 40, no 30
You are gonna be cooked for a while for sure
and allocating resources to fairly useless places, is well, useless
nah i can get her with guild and hero coins only
are we supposed to do two at the same time 
Then do it ig
not rn no, you need to save for other stuff
This is why you should whale instead of f2poor struggle
like wu kong swapping and drake exchange
just buy dracu
sitting on this with 15d left on shuna
Buy dim stop worrying
Don't spend lab coins, feel free to swap some hero coins for stones
she has max alr
ok chat issue is fixed I just regarrisoned shuna with hero and guild coins
@charred jetty so did you mean talimar when u said mauler girl
It's about being flexible with resources instead of fixed 15 challenger + 25 lab depending on needs
oh gun has appeared hello
drac team is doing better than expected, (i alrdy switched the treams around i just wanted to experiment w pony 6 for @charred jetty)
WHAT is Levi supposed to do here 🥀
L Levi goated
You may as well use another tank, or Jerome, or something
e selene in seal with no actual seal ?
genuinely no idea i wanted to see if he was a good 1 copy
i said i switched the teams around god darnit
gun listen up young buck, you need to stop using temu rbsg teams
What even is this event i never seen it 😭
you have the heroes for real good teams
Whenever a dracolite releases, a week or so later they may release something for spenders to easily bring SI30 or even 40 up by spending, also some decent dragon scroll deals for F2P
oh i see thanks
Ivan shielding Aurelia is hilarious
im hopin he shields aure bc i dont have her cheat death yet
that shield going straight to aurelia for a 4% winrate buddy
nah she got it
One win every 4 is reasonable for not top 100 person
see this is where selene built would benefit you more than lib
this on test or wha?
i dont have lib bruh
Disregard what he said, Selene is surprisingly good in CR, and usable in TS, but is confusing af even for top leaderboard to use
ye but you swapped selene to lib with grit a while back
or is this just 10 ascended which I dont have
yeah then swapped him for aure, so rn i wouldnt have aure or daemia one of the two
You need to have pulled at least one copy of new dragon girl maybe
no, im a regular ass player
she also got me my first 25 chest run on wrizz
i think u have to have her at M
maybe only there for ascended serennia
even tho ts don't matter
nah I only got 8 ascended
Ah M, well 300 pull then at maximum 
group
Okay maybe you need 10 ascended too not sure
i do have 1*
So many of the special deals only open when you have 10 ascended that's not dim
Like new hero ship
Which hildwin skill does the grouping?
tldr game doesnt want my money
His ult
W ball knowledge ig
So no ult=useless?
Uh how do people come up with these conclusions 
😭

He is a good hero
Shaltear trash confirmed
T2 nc / T6 cr confirmed 
wait it wasnt jd it was you who wanted know the pony stuff right?
i dont think its useful for ts, not how it is in campaign atleast, i still think pulling one copy at reso 6 is good though, since w knox it makes a whole comp lol
i was able to use seal w a different comp basically up to ch 44ish
after that i started needing to use seal W knox only bc knox wasnt staying alive long enough to let pony build up
on my old acc I used pony sometimes in ts and he did nothing
pony 6 is bad against actually built heroes like the ones you face in ts
hes good for his debuff at lv 0-3
What
This or 2200 cores
it was u who asked for the pony stuff in ts no?
Ye
poe coins because gambling trust
=spending
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Buttt e8x 
e100 selene when
Never
Does 9f Knox really a big upgrade or just small impact
cores always no? unless you’re swimming in em
pretty big
not worth spending red cards for tho afaik
avg is 6680 per red furn (including the card gain and the yellow/purple ones to recycle) so that’s either 6.5 furn or half an e60
so 13 furn vs e60 what is better
Im swimming in 5k…
that’s… not swimming
48% damage boost, i would say that's a big upgrade
Is that a new one or just upgrade from regular skill
new one
Im drowning
send me some

Does dracula need e60?
don't think it's needed for cr/nc afaik but really good for ts
I have 9k but don't have hero to upgrade

Im asking grumble
walker
Sounds good
5036100 walker
Are you t10 nc?
Top -10
403680 like dubbsy
im top 40 TS at least
Then you have heroes to upgrade
40%
+%
sssssh dont tell them
Sure I'll make randle Ivan both e60
@river shuttle
I saw
am i good research
gun for CS
no but realistically i dont think ts fights last long enough for pony to actually get value at 6
grumble says NC rn needs 20330 and CR somethjng similar. might be nice for TS though i wouldnt do it yet
give it a bit ngl
Istg if someone else gets cs before me ill crashout
imma get it before u
i think emily should get CS
No need to increase ts until im out of t10
for drac? 20930 will be just fine for ts
gonna write 100 pieces of software to calculate random bs and get CS
he has bigger acc so not sure
I do wanna write simulations for pulls cuz math is hard and for loops are easy (idk how soft pity works tho)
My r1 is 5.8 how do i fix that?
the best way to beat ch 1
for pulls? like probability calculations?
merc a 40960 drac and see if there’s a difference and if not you need a smaller WL or a bigger watha
yeah like whats the distribution graph for DI needed for Ascended, when accounting for pity
oh i was just talking for like, min invest imo, for him he should 100% get 30930 bc 30 gives her good damage too
the average they give is counting pity
if it wasn’t, the average would be around 1/36
Wl?
lucius? maybe
I have 30030 rn
Not using lucius there
if someone has soft pity info imma just generate some charts 
too big winged lion can mess it up
we don’t really know the backend stuff
How tf do i merc a smaller winged lion

Its only 18 tho
yeah her 40 imo doesnt rlly seem worth it outside of ts bc it will keep ur teamates alive longer, and her 60 is purely for energy sustain and keeping her blood chalice up which lets her ramp upMUCH quicker
ohhh np, only 24+ is an issue
did anyone ever track pull data above 55 pulls 
And merc is ody i cant use any mercs
her 60 basically charms one enemy, and that enemy gets siphoned for energy and blood
just for trying…
most gachas just find back softpity by calculating backwards from tracking pulls themselves
if there is any soft pity at all
it seems like they did that as well, just have a random soft pity thing and hard pity at 65, then changed probability so the average ends up at 2%
dude if drac siphoned the highest atk enemy that would be so broken, sadly its just the enemy w the highest energy at the time
you can still merc drac and try it? if bigger drac fixes it you’ll know you’ll need a bigger drac
same for bigger watha
itd be illegal af to advertise 2% chance when its 1.5% with pity at 65
I dont need to try bigger watha since i wont get one without merc
the reason they have to give probability is european law 
but then you know what the issue is?
I aint doing e80 watha
so they cant just lie about it and say "well its adjusted for pity"
Il look for one
i have it
hater
chat im 161 in NC
Wont help me unless 40960 anyways 
40 doesnt do anything for damage at all
I was 2nd
yea it's healing crits lmao useless
guys im already dropped to 167
Shes not a dps so its not the dmg i csre sbt
u want her to heal more? if ur using supp drac, then all u need is 20930 after that every other upgrade directly inreases her dmg
that’s what i said :P 20330 for NC/CR
What U use
her 60 is also good utility but idk if it will help in NC at all since its an energy siphon ability
Oh my gosh that antibiotic
pretty cheap for being such a good supp ngl
Always bullies me in arena 
colls?
Lmao, fun choice of words 
Looks like not enough FATK syndrome, or not big enough Athalia
Thx for giving me a laugh when I'd just forced myself awake from nap for dinner
or not enough PP perhaps
Everyone has 2.3fatk except lys and westy (she has 3)
so 3f is actually important for drac here, it makes her start off with 500 points instead of 0, and at 1000 points she puts a 30% def reduction on enemies, if u get 3f it might cut ur time down since she puts that debuff 50% quicker than w/o 3f

im genuinely such a chronic napper the last 1 week i took 5h naps till 1am after dinner

so maybeeee if u het 3f, drac can hit overflow and reduce defense just fast enough to cut some time off?
COuld be tree issue who knows, 217 is a bit smol
if you want answers without spending rescources, just merc a 4M PP lys, a 30330 drac and you should see which matters
if any
@river shuttle Your R6 need to do way better seriously
Selene is fake dont trust me delaying with 0.5 lmfao
Lmao cant it js be RNG
no no its fking consistent
she takes 0.5 second of the spotlight
Lol i didnt hit properly yet
safety hit
I need to remove lib and velu furn again
Is dracolite prio sion velu begris?
In that order
Also should i consider hero swap scrolling velu if i already built sion?
yes yes and probably
which hero do you want to swap scroll and how many copies of the and velu?
I heard the new dragon isn't top prio
nice and concise
efficient CSing
I have a 5 starred lady simona (got lucky with random pulls)
Too early to tell ngl
You cant do that
cannot swap scroll 4f to dragons sadly, need to swap dragon to dragon
Can i not with the red one?
I thought you could mb
but you can wait until the ship passes for serennia if you got lucky and then she gets added to swap scroll options
Lol
Then what about melion? Im at 6 copies might hit a few more i have 200 pulls
Im at 2 velu copies
id first do the 200 pulls and then see your results and ask again
really depends on what you get
What should my wishlist look like then? I need 2 more sions for 1 star
Sion velu begris melion and what
Yes
can you show your dragons maybe? easier to give advice tha way
Keep in mind i have all 4 draco choice chests, was gonna use 3 for sion and one for velu
Since the 4th one doesn't have sion as an option
chat who do i swap in the event?
woah 4 draco choice chests
Don't see how it's an issue but you may want to complete all 300 new dragon pulls first
You're way way way too early to think about swaps, see your progress in 20ish days before event expire, and decide later, or just wait it out for 10000 diamonds
:3
Yeah, 2 where its sion begris and something else, 1 with velu and some other 2, and the last one with all of em
finish pulls and then check again ngl
Or get a ton of wukongs and then swap to another celehypo
I should use 3 for sion tho no?
i wouldn’t really
Or do i try to pull as many of him as i can first
that way you get more begrisses
Maybe yea
Do you have Dracula already? Swap is happening tomorrow and that will eat up your lab coins
But to be clear if i hit like 3 sions ill just get the last one with a chest
if there’s a chest with sion without any of begris/velu/tav i guess you can get him from that one
After swap he still has somewhere around 2 ish weeks to try getting more wukong copies
Just itching to finish a dragon finally hahaha
each one wukong u get is 25k dias saved
randle to walker
I DID IT I PASSED 31-4 I DID IT I DID ITTTT YIPEEEEE
lmaoo i get it, can you do the pulls rn? or waiting for somethjng
So is way more worth 
I'll do them later today yea
31-8 🧱
wonkler
LETSGOOOOO IM THE GOAT
woke walker, the woker if you will
yea ill just kms bro
just do em all with wishlist:
sion/velu/begris/tav/melion
account for sale $1 anyone
76-16 
I have i think 80 scrolls and like 60k dias
should be good
just merc an envy
Also from the dragon chest levi is just way better than 20 pulls right
smh, u stoopid or something?
Yes, merc an Envy
Yes mostly
E30 prio?
yea but can just wait until you need it later
goated bro has been doing gods work
others call u g personally i like to call u
shuna my beloved 🙏 (this is not advice, idk if shes worth it)
I’m thinking shuna or mishra but i dont know which is better first or if im off the mark
No gorok, more dmg = bettah 
Yea I’m trying to fix that last bunch lol i dont know who to do next i have enough for fawkes when he’s awakened
DAMAGE
then i like shuna and misha
There's no downside to holding your resources, not like you're adding a new SI30 and then automatically cut into top 100 or anything
I kinda want to go misha for tower
God decisions are so hard man why couldn’t they just make the list linear
because it isn’t 
@cobalt abyss u so nub me same lvl as u 
nah but it doesn’t matter since like kisaka said: you won’t miss out on any resources yet

you’ll get to do all of these before you actually rank high in TS
i mean it really depends on each player needs
and rng
does CS still have cooldown?

the singular perk of being CS
average experience with cooldown
damn. 
you guys think swap eugene into zohra or chicken? leaning zohra
g add one more S to be safe
Wait where did you find me 
i coincidentally saw that u and me same lvl
solid swap if you don’t have gwyn
fr man
i seem to talk much less than i expected 
Talk moah
very fun with moments like earlier
you’re too busy talking elsewhere dw
should i change my name to #1 Khuaa Supporter
or is this already clear
3 S is not enough trust add 1 more
Fs well TS is home hehe 
Not clear add pls 
got skylan and gwyn?
Elthara and skylan
No no he got elth before
I had 1 copy yea got a 2nd one now
if no one else will face the darkness... I will
ohh sad
no gwyn, I was hoarding hildwin dupes expecting him to be swappable 🙃 Not sure if zohra or chicken is more future proof but I am always lacking my zohra team for TS
thought it was your first
Wait how much hbs did u get from those 200 pulls
2
Insane luck 
Yea good ones too
how much do competitive players spend monthly on average just curious
i think chicken seems a little more future proof for CR only, but zohra is also safe enough and also has use in TS
Not alot of dragolites tho i feel
so what does Talimar E30 actually do cuz I dont understand the description
ideally you would want to try to get one more sion copy and then use your sion chests to finish
whats the interquartile range of spenders that are semi or fully competitive
Got 1 sion and a few begris velu tavriel
a good amount, but not particularly money but time and energy from your life gone into afk arena
Zohra has subs in TS but nice to have, i will praise KFC however
I'll try to save dias to pull for it
i need dollar amounts
Also need to pull for my star on aestril after the event tho
competitive in what? there’s f2p players that are t10 TS, t200 NC, t200 CR
hmmmm rly
it depends, the top of the top spent like TONS whales
Shes already 409
Yes real, and you can be low spender too
Just need the star to 60 her
thats why i asked for interquartile range
you can as f2p get top 100, but you would sacrifice a ton of time and energy for it
what is a low spender, like $10-20 a mth?
Low spender rlly differs minimally from f2p but they are just slightly ahead on certain resources
yes we would consider them a fish, not a whale
Slightly bit more but yeah thats a good point to start
what ab like big fish but not whale
a hunnid a month idk?
big fishies spent like hundreds
t100 TS is obtainable for all good f2p in current state of game ngl
but NC/CR is a different story
sure, you just sacrifice a ton of time and energy and tons of planning, its not worth it irl for your life tbh
sighhhh
u can whale tree 
i spend 6h a day on my violin what is like 3h on this shit game that im addicted to
i have a life!! and am t50 f2p after a year
well somewhat of a life
Thats why TS is the recommended focus for newer players now
idk if uni is living
Its much more balanced and not u competing with ppl playing years before u
Btw @autumn gull how hard should i commit to getting that last sion?
Should be pretty hard if u can get him at a decent investment
well thast great, but for the rest of us, it takes a lot of effort and planning to do good as f2p, and lots of energy from your life across many months
I can 40360 him atm
what’s your celepog situation like? do remember he really needs 40960
this is true
9f is pretty huge but yeah thats somewhere
but that’s the way being competitive in games work sadly
I have knox aurelia and aestril at 40960 with envy and ashem built
Yeah
At 30960
yep :(
3 wokes 2 celepogs?
Also lib ofc at 30960
aest needs 40 for NC no? 
shuna/mira/gorok all very good
i was more curious about how many celepogs, but sounds like way more than enough to focus on sion
Yessir
i would send for him
misha also really good
same for velu ngl
Actually i lied my aestril needs 3 copies from gazing
40360 is already pretty close
but maybe you get lucky with melons and can swap
To the star blud
Hm
Aestril star first then sion?
sion is diamonds and star is SG though
how much do competitive guilds require u to spend
I mean you can spend diamonds on stargazing
Forgot about 1 cele, also alna is at m+
yea but you get the idea
Yeah ik ik
if he spends diamonds now stargazing and then gets more gazers he can’t use em on dragons a
=spending
20000 daemia hurts my eyes
=spending
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idk like t100
*20300
i would probably send for sion at this point because i like gambling lmao, but west star is also very important and safer
whats abex
since there’s pity
he doesn't have 3f
Look again
do u spend btw
I do, but i should engrave her
the gamemode every few months that all guilds compete against eachother in
No
Considering
you can safely hit sion with another 200 pulls
me too
I have a few misses i know, mainly si 30 on rem and atheus
i might get the 30 DI and monthly deluxe to start
no pity though, might as well take 600 or 10
Also 9f on simona
star is guaranteed in 190 pulls
lol i meant that as an exaggeration
like ofc stargazing is safer
solid acc except for those though
what’s your TS like?
Between 1 and 2%
But i need to fix my teams badly, theyre old
Been putting it off honestly
i’d go for sion now and get your t100 lmao
Alna too
yea true
Immediate card = W
Alna i need like 4 copies for A
you just need to sit a little longer for alna sion west to be done
then set good teams
should be able to get you there
Also at 400 DI, so should get lan at some point soon ish
yea definitely
Have 1 copy which helps
so need 5*50 =250
I should save like 650 right
she really likes her 9f, it gives 75% dmg buff
but she’s already nice to have at M
are you already pulling furn for her and sion?
Im at 330
Sion yes have 3 lan no but ill add her right now
sounds good
thing is, you need to si40 both her and sion
pulling to M isn’t that worth if you can’t si40
I have 1k red and 230 white dragon items
whats the most recent progression guide? im not at much really but id appreciate tips
should actually be fine with what you get from pulling probably
Would also help me beat some stages for more of those weekly reward
Can use regular red chest to upgrade draconis?
No
and those monthly rewards being DI, it’s huge
Think i should wait till 550 maybe
Although my income is slow
Any hb that could work at mythic?
imo it’s either wait until next HB release, or pull now
you’re wasting value if you di somethjng in between
When?
Dont pull if you don't have to but lan apparently works
Can you si40 her?
probably 2 months? but it’s not known until they announce it
Yeah i feel like if i don't hit enough copies to get her to mythic it'll be a bit bad no
Maybe I'll wait for next hb then, how many di could someone get for 2 months?
@errant sable i broke 31-8 first try
=earlycamp
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(look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible - Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan
+ Randle
or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest. - AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara
. She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS. - Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
??? which is it
whoops typo
=guide
i think we like shuna / rem > shall laios these days
they removed it already
but it’s in discussion
albedo shall ?
flip i garrisojed rem already… do i hve to restart my account now or smth
albedo 
bedo sucks :P
nah
do i keep garrisoning her or go for someone else
that’s fine, all combinations of rem/shuna/shall are fine
i like rem + shuna best persomally
whos shuna again sorry
the character named shuna
i broke 31-4 and 31-8 🥹🥹
I also took rem shuna, I'm still in early game
yeah but idk who that is..
first one in the guide
=earlymulti
oh that girl
right but how do u even get elthara
shes an awakened dragon i cant get her until like chp 16
The ongoing events give u 50 DI in total
@inner olive my rem daemia comp didn't work I used the same comp that u show
Shes for later uses
3f rem?
9
im on chapter 8 rn im using this comp
Rem didn't do any damage
Is it worth pulling for a single copy of odysseus
No absolutely not
What deficit
248
But did daemia proc ult?
Yes
248 seems a bit too much 
If you want to try yeah! Apply for it and we will see.
Isn't that still low?
Idk but ngl u gotta show full comp investment and gears
Ah it's okay then I could win with alvida rem, I'm just curious why that comp work for other people
maybe their daemia is more invested she scales rlly well with investment
I've seen their dae is elite
But the only comp that struggling to win is elthara and knox
Ah
What to do w these, I'm on chapter 23. Only thing I really have leveled up is, I have randle as mythic
Save for now
I used it for my randle
ivan boots and weap
Any time I ask for help here, it's save save save.-. Like, when do I get to spend stuff lmao
randle weapon > ivan weapon > randle boots > ivan boots
I also got that type of answer 
I have randle weapon, but it's blank for faction
then use chest on him
Need faction
ivan gear better :> randle get subbed out for a while
wdym subbed out
What about the highborn dragon chest
Where the drama at
Should I SI 30 daemia or someone else?
hard pity incoming
fr
I have a simple solution
33-4 when?
bro i havent got a single ivan in like a billion summons
fuck I miss 6
Maybe need trillion
tmr
slow
press that plus sign
now im stuck 31-12
who is tamrus
what are your teams?
Wilder
tarzan girl
ah ty
man dont even start im prolly just rc capped
was I rc180 by then?
It's a guy
I cant check now
oki they just moved up 2 tiers in my tierlist
good twink
i should get nara shouldnt i
youll just get her randomly sometime and shes 99% used as filler ngl
when u see nara in campaign its just cuz haha graveborn with cover artifact
i still havent tho and now i need her in this team
u rlly dont
i promise you she isnt that useful, you use god damn randle & ivan & elthara
u werent, but u had 1 star ivan 1 star randle. i have m ivan.
pulling an enemy to your side of the battlefield doesnt do shit for you
I genuinely only use her for being a graveborn
remember to focus on giving your ivan more attack ig, his shield is based largely on his attack stat
disables them from melting my team in 0.01s
thats what cover artifact is for but the actual unit itself is whatever
Good to pull vurk, mehira etc
my non ivan team keeps losing bro 😭😭
like sure nara is useful but like, shes not as impactful as you think
shes not crucial to those campaign formations, you can sub her
u use windminder on elthara instead of storm?
Sure
elthara, atheus, gorok?
I mean its rng cuz its just pray elthara gets an ult off, early game that can mean using the +600 energy artifact rather than storm
ok ill go get windbinder
god my ivan was so dogshit 
Isn't it 400?
that ruins her dps
ig elthara is running his gear
i was just gonna say bro
300
in many of these early campaigns, even 1 shit ult is good enough
youre often capped by elthara triggering, not by her damage
bros ch31... shes overkill af

ehh whatever it is, theres a reason I used it there
it made the difference
Sure
Who here are actually playing in the same server with someone you know that also hangs around here?
have applied!
Can't wait to see like 20 of yous try to rip each others' heads off in the same TS
also his f2p is 1190 not 1191
we all getting clapped by S1175 players instead
sung ashem pmo
saitama sucks
Real
i wanna spend money on this game but idk whats the most worth to buy
=spending
Priorities for Spending Money
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828
=spending
Priorities for Spending Money
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828
Slow
bot was a lil late there
idk
yes
so ur saying the monthly card is the best thing to get
+5pound package for 30 DI this week 🫡 (u prob dont have it unlocked yet)
How much do you wanna spend?
i just want the most value, i want scrolls mostly
just something small like a fiver for now
Scrolls and good value is not a match buddy
Buy advancement packs if you just want to pull heroes
from the sound of it i’d recommend this too
buy yourself an energy drink and play through the night, thats the most value for a fiver
Only thing new are the weekly woke pet deals. Not super relevant for a newer account iirc
if you just wanna spend a little to boost your progression instantly
its 20 pounds 💔💔
ykw ill take this suggestion
Bad or good?
not worth =spending
Priorities for Spending Money
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828
yea once you’re reso18 it’s insane value to do “reso 27” by buying the woke pet packs for 5 bucks
@drifting hemlock if you got 5$ to spend the highest impact thing you can do is play till chapter 16 so you unlock the highborn dragons and pull for Elthara by buyin 30 Dragon Insignia (pulls) for 5 pounds
(you also get like 40 pulls for free over a week of playing rn, decent chance u dont even have to spend any money, pity is at 65)
sounds good, ill just grind it up till 16
i think its 16 I gotta doublecheck tbh but im lazy
should be huge and yes it’s 16
brick worthy decision
just about as bad as possible
thats genuinely the only significant one time 5$ spend in the game
not worth whaling for 1 knox lmao
Then dont spend🤷♂️ 5£ wont give you any noticable advantage
Please don’t get me started on the term reso27. I’d just forgotten about that stupid phrase
elthara 🫡 after that yeah
lmao
Thats actually a good advice 
it’s pretty stupid but a very efficient way of spending
Not what I meant 
u telling me u aint reso 27?
Reso 44 actually
Reso 27 doesn’t exist
skissue
F off

Not everything has to have a name 
I don’t have Selene yet, I’m still holding on swap
why can't i swap daimon using swap scrolls?
selene wasn’t needed
removing gave -0.65s lmao
lol
wtf
is he engraved
What’s r2 comp then, maybe I have been enlightened
Have you engraved him at all?
yes
Then you can’t
there u go
nooo 
Do you have like lvl 5 engrave or smth
u shouldnt use the swap scroll on 4fs anyway
lvl 23
U can't swap then
only dragons?
He can use it on whatever the acc is dead either way
that or whatever the consensus is rn
Wts hi
looked like it haha, he doesnt have those trial heroes though so I wasnt sure
wts woutty 
bro ive been trying 31-12 since 25 mins ago and i just realised auto isnt on
:pepelaughpoint:
Still cooked, even if its like this server he is better of restarting
Ok ye I can’t use those comps
indeed
How you been?
it's my old acc anw, just wanna see if i can still flip it xd
My Marci round just bricks for no reason 
Did you copy exactly as-is?
Sweet! Will review with depths management and send out a decision in 1-2 days :)
the usual - splendid 
plz dont use your swap scroll 🤔
Bud might be the goat
hope u been doing well as well buddy woutty
Just swap whatever account doomed anyway
u telling me theyre rc160 on an old acc? fuckkk
Imagine that, the only place he can ever go is RADIANT
nou
Of course, all is well when you are here
And yes he is banned from Nihi
I don't know the details but I just know they banned him
thats insane bro just dropping slurs on the daily ig
What's radiant and crowdsource
Radiant is arguably the most successful guild cluster for Abyssal Expedition
Is radiant any good?
nuh uh thats nihi
Yeah wtf is r2 and r5
Oh it's a guild 
they have W recruiting ig
How you getting 2:30 with these comps
It's a cluster of like 10+ guilds or something
I don't know how they did it, I'm used to guild clusters but 10+ seems like hell to manage
I only see them recruiting on discords
So both of them is cluster of guild?
Who is 'both'
yes
what's the best use for swap scrolls? it only swap 4f and dragons
Kaden is one of the members yes, as well as Hat, Jot and a couple, colin probably
caca
i applied to nihi 🤫
Who made this image
Best of luck, would vouch if I could but that's not how the recruiting process works, they will contact you with details needed
yepp ty
AI slop la
vuong lam is the guy reviewing my app
Unicorn has rainbow eyes not red
I don't know why it comes so natural to me despite being born in Hong Kong
What is a good 4 hero roster for final Nc boss?
Whoa
Surely need ody for it
prob will be put in a casual guild tho
Theres just ad no?
Time to merc an oddy
I actually tried and OD made it a lot easier, it's just OD team and take off one of the supports, but the rest felt impossible with small investment
i just got 130 from dragon trials, i realize i forgot to buy the 10 insignia, i just got to level 5, and my income is increased, is there any way to claim that new increased income?
Well, first week ever mini took the OD and tried, didn't do well, so only used OD for the 4 boss and activated Dracula trial to secure 200
or am i losing the 10 insignia for this month
i was inactive so i didnt know so i just came back
You will get the increased income from next handout, but you missed out from previous round
do you have 2 ody?
oh okay, so i miss the 10 insignia for this month?
One is part of 'Project Prop-a-friend-to-NC50' so it's effectively perma-merc to her, the other I'm taking for mini because at this point IDGAF anymore 
why was kaden banned
ig
Welp if you have one for every of your accs why wouldnt you

Needing prop for t50 
If these times are lower man
She's very very close so just need that comp that other would-be 50s can't counter, and hope for the best with other rounds
Even made OD 3* to make it easier for her to setup
I’ve be barred from pulling stars 
Rly invested into her
Unfortunately though, R1 screws with her, no SI40 Lyca, no more Dracula trial
I made si40 lyca for that round 
I couldn’t get Dracula version working
And going 21-22 is not an option because Misha needed elsewhere
did u use sion r6
F2P life is indeed, hard
Yea
It bricked r2 and r5 too hard
It was a 4 second save for a 30 second loss on r2 and r5

I’d be happy with 10.15
Does that .25 actually matter for your reward bracket?
Is it slower than last week naturally or cant you find the right setup?
I want to be sub 1m10s
Not sure if the extra star on Elthara played a part but she had different boots and Talimar had weapon off
I see, goodluck
Same as last week. Swapping lava was supposed to fix it
For me l2 boots on elthara were better than no boots, idk if its different last week
He was e88. Swapped down to e68 
Hold up my setup was like
@buoyant fern stars? 
She gets MP from star so
Should I card Estrilda or wait for lan
I had this last week
Farara says
to hb stars 
See? 
Ah yes the 10.27 before with yellow boots and you may need FERO for Serenmira
This is elth, not Ody


