classic-questions

[pulsar marlin]

Tbf they don’t pay it’s kisaka and people like me that care

[wraith fjord]

@cloud pollen

[cloud pollen]

Highlight of the moment, blah blah blah F2P getting an extra highborn have no impact on spenders hurr durr, do they even know the possible massive exploit some could pull off if it happened?

[wraith fjord]

Support is the best

[cloud pollen]

Oh yeah I was about to ask if your Tavriel problem was resolved

Seems like it since I saw you rank with red

Blah blah blah spender also benefit, the world is 2D to them, but overall they just think about their own gains and hurt when their ego was not satisfied

[open oyster]

100% has impact I would pass a lot of spenders

[pulsar marlin]

Wow they don’t know how expensive it is to whale

[cloud pollen]

It's not they don't, it's they take it out of the equation and just think of themselves only

[pulsar marlin]

Bud if hildwin was swappable im just fucked

Like deadass grumble would crush my ass

[drifting pasture]

yo anyone can help

[cloud pollen]

You know the exploit? Save up rift Hildwin copies and now you can swap Hildwin and rebuild him, if Lilith actually allow it to happen game is dead ass

[pulsar marlin]

Get Randle boots

[drifting pasture]

okay, why

[pulsar marlin]

Boots give evasion and haste

[subtle shuttle]

so do i keep going on new account in the new server or i keep playing in my other account which i’m in ch9

[cloud pollen]

Then something something "F2P needs to spend time and resource to get the Hildwin copies", newsflash your time is worth nothing compared to money from spender

[open oyster]

This is why f2p life is best. Spenders stress everyday because a f2p can easily pass them based on lilith's decision

[pulsar marlin]

I think everyone had the wrong mentality

If hilbilly is swappable what’s even the point of whaling anymore

[drifting pasture]

i thought weapon > boots

[pulsar marlin]

You just wait for swap

[drifting pasture]

and why randle before ivan

[open oyster]

I would gladly like a hild swap but that's just for my own personal benefit

[green solstice]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1490816326888067283/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69d56e66&is=69d41ce6&hm=17d8055d92b9b7fc0322f7c76c94cc2764ff3d1acd5ed5d6b862163c6aceeb45&

[pulsar marlin]

For mages yes, for agility based no

[cloud pollen]

Naive kids thinking just because others followed the year limit dragons have to do the same to allow Elthara

[wraith fjord]

I got t209 without the trav
But according to support
Since I’m a long time player they can help me this 1 time

[drifting pasture]

does this mean i do this

[cloud pollen]

Ah yes one time offering

[pulsar marlin]

Yes

[cloud pollen]

If you're big VIP Belinda could help you many times

[wraith fjord]

Hey I’ll take it they were really nice

[drifting pasture]

thank u!

[karmic walrus]

I love corruption

[wraith fjord]

I explained everything and they found a solution

[pulsar marlin]

Define big vip

[ivory turret]

What happened if i may ask?

[wraith fjord]

Hey if I need to ever Ill go through a vip account

[karmic walrus]

based

[cloud pollen]

14+ because that's when they pester you about Belinda or something, or was it 15

[olive jewel]

I once had a scary thing they fixed. carded 9f on lyca instead of Wyca

[pulsar marlin]

Aw so I no big vip

[open oyster]

Talking about hb swap. Any got an odysseus for me

[ivory turret]

Not close yet only at 12

[karmic walrus]

in comp cuz there's no VIP if u spend around 2.5k or some shit u get the Belinda thing and special codes

[open oyster]

Now card regular lyca

[pulsar marlin]

Alr I’m praying Mia is mid so my queen velu gets her si40

[wraith fjord]

Support is yk sometimes amazing

[wraith fjord]

I hav before

[vagrant vigil]

Is it to soon to tell or is new dim gonna be worth investing in? And if so do we know at all how high in prio she might be?

[pulsar marlin]

She’s currently a 209 e30

[wraith fjord]

20030 absolutely

[pulsar marlin]

Just don’t card her

[wraith fjord]

I’ll be making her 30930 I’d say slowly
Might go for a 40 if I ever need her for a big nc cr push

[vagrant vigil]

What role does she play in a comp?

[pulsar marlin]

Buffer/ sub dps

[barren fjord]

:3

[wraith fjord]

40960 she is a dps

[barren fjord]

u dont need 40

[wraith fjord]

It’s trial I’m using

[barren fjord]

40 makes her heal more no? 30 is the dps one

[pulsar marlin]

40 is stats tho

IMO 359 e6x

[barren fjord]

if 40 gives her LL or Mp then yeah

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah it gives her ll iirc

[barren fjord]

im 19 and i only learned what iirc meant like 2 weeks ago

[pulsar marlin]

It’s gives mp

[barren fjord]

even better than it giving LL then

[drifting pasture]

no offence to peppa but someone gave me diff advice so can anyone confirm if i should get randle boots

[olive jewel]

oh god I only saw that I got 2% rewards on NC I never checked my actual number it was 1.1%

[drifting pasture]

jackooo

[olive jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-screaming-cat-disappearing-monjjunirawr-cat-scream-cat-screams-gif-2353694372143718210

[barren fjord]

realistically u should wait for a CS take on most things, some people u can learn to trust like @cobalt abyss etc but da purple names are cool

[barren fjord]

isnt there a chart somewhere that shows gear stuff

[olive jewel]

yeah i dont know where though

[barren fjord]

guys take his cs away

[karmic walrus]

[drifting pasture]

whats the tiers again for gear

[karmic walrus]

1-4

[barren fjord]

t0-t4

[drifting pasture]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1074397340871426108

[olive jewel]

bud playing with fire

[drifting pasture]

yea what that mean tho

[barren fjord]

there u go

[barren fjord]

lmaoooo 👀👀

[drifting pasture]

but like ivan or randleee

and my ivan is E and randle is M sooo

[olive jewel]

Randle is the carry

so you tend to focus him first

[drifting pasture]

okay thanks cs

[barren fjord]

guys im stuck in campaign again :(

i dont wanna have to make new team comps!

[karmic walrus]

use yer brain

[drifting pasture]

usingbrain sucks

[karmic walrus]

true

[drifting pasture]

brainless grinding also sucks….

game just sucks overall ig

[karmic walrus]

you finally got it

[barren fjord]

truly

[drifting pasture]

this why i quit 2y ago

[barren fjord]

truth me too

[drifting pasture]

now im restarting months of pain

[barren fjord]

truth me too

[green solstice]

Guys, i think this guide's outdated. I tried using it and the path was different ig

[barren fjord]

those shouldnt be outdated tbh

[drifting pasture]

yup its outdated, but just need to attack the upper one for 5

[barren fjord]

they never touch that side of the game anymore

[drifting pasture]

it is i did it a day ago and had to redo

[barren fjord]

oh they r just incorrect actually

they arent outdated its just wrong

[drifting pasture]

maybe then how did they get that pic

[green solstice]

I honestly dont get it. Is there a current up to date guide?

[drifting pasture]

for 5, dont attack that camp, attack the camp above it (northwest of 2)

or north of 2

[green solstice]

Ill try this thanks

[drifting pasture]

eh i forgot but hope it works out its 7am goodnight

[green solstice]

Lol. Goodnight

Nope. The layout of the map is wrong. I cant do this peak of time chapter. If anyone knows please reply or pm me. I gtg to sleep

[ivory wagon]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1490816326888067283/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69d56e66&is=69d41ce6&hm=17d8055d92b9b7fc0322f7c76c94cc2764ff3d1acd5ed5d6b862163c6aceeb45&

[inner olive]

furry hippo gaming has a vid on that pot map check it out

[barren fjord]

yayy i got past my little hurdle in campaign

[hearty crag]

do we still put talismane like the beast guide or r there better pets (maybe owl / chest) we should put on it first?

[barren fjord]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1490816326888067283/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69d56e66&is=69d41ce6&hm=17d8055d92b9b7fc0322f7c76c94cc2764ff3d1acd5ed5d6b862163c6aceeb45&

[olive jewel]

it is very crept

[polar grail]

Dracula needs?

[olive jewel]

but one of the only pets that is good at 1 copy

[olive jewel]

200e30 min I am hearing

but the full 309e60 might be good too

I think you want like 303e30? (as a realistic minimum)

[polar grail]

I had her at 309e60

She was doing all the damage in my shemira team lol

[polar grail]

Oh okay

[olive jewel]

I am not sure on si30 though

[cloud pollen]

Why do people plan for NC before they even have it unlocked? Don't they know following written plan tend to backfire? You actually need to play through it to get experience

[olive jewel]

this is all second hand for obvious reasons

si30 might be a dimblem investment

[cloud pollen]

I get the "to get the best start" part but you're just not going to jump into good ranks on debut unless you kraken your way to most if not all built

Most people probably end up 1 kill at best on debut

[hearty crag]

so u mean its powercrept and outdated guide?

also red emblems do ppl buy from roamers in laby or nah for f2p

[olive jewel]

no the pet

but what I said after was "but one of the only pets that is good at 1 copy"

[hearty crag]

oh so dont take it to lvl 6?

[inner olive]

ngl ice fox or panda is probably better

panda good with fawkes and ice fox works at 1 copy with randle ivan

[hearty crag]

oh okay

[olive jewel]

yeah I feel like it might be time to remove it entirely

but idk how well it does early game

and because of reso you can still focus one pet to 6 even if its bad later

because once you get reso it doesnt matter which ones you used

[torpid seal]

pretty useful sometimes still, works at just a copy

[inner olive]

talis is really good with elthara

[olive jewel]

ok good to know

[inner olive]

green ball is better for some stages but talis is usually what you'd wanna use

[olive jewel]

isnt dreary ball often the best?

or is this me being a boomer

[inner olive]

black ball only good in faction towers ngl

it's kinda ass on high deficits

[open oyster]

@cloud pollen you made an appearance on farara's new reddit post

frick i should have hit a little worse and I could have made an appearence too

[prisma carbon]

60/60 for exchange finally

[olive jewel]

I guess it was good when you used to not push very big deficits early game

[prisma carbon]

🤝

[olive jewel]

[barren fjord]

guys what should i do w my tree

[open oyster]

is the 5 wish leaf from exchange event worth more than 350 juice

[barren fjord]

do i just go full cele

[open oyster]

go based on whatever heroes you use

[barren fjord]

:3

[prisma carbon]

Also mafe Fawkes SI30 today peak

[open oyster]

I make fawkes si 0 in 2 days

[grave hollow]

smh redditor loler

[open oyster]

u made facebook post I don't want to hear it from you

[grave hollow]

Viets used FB not reddit

[open oyster]

tell them to use discord

[grave hollow]

they cant they dont speak Eng

and they are racist af they gonna speedrun any % to get banned

[open oyster]

JD gonna be working overtime

[olive jewel]

what else is new

[open oyster]

[olive jewel]

imma go check his level

103

[open oyster]

lvl 103

[olive jewel]

what am I

[olive jewel]

damn we're close bud

[open oyster]

we almost same rank . wts im a yapper

[olive jewel]

naw Im like the least yapper CS

so being around me makes you non yapper

[grave hollow]

oh i got the jackpot banter chat

lucky i guess

[open oyster]

gratz now flex it in game chat

[hearty crag]

how many free pulls does dragon event give?

[grave hollow]

what chu say

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1488337473997377637/image0.gif

[grave hollow]

[olive jewel]

None. You get rewards for pulls up to 300 times

[olive jewel]

4 copies of the newest hero guranteed among other things

[opaque fable]

Is the guide that is pinned updated?

[olive jewel]

well I guess some of the rewards are scrolls

[hearty crag]

but do u get scrolls from those rewards?

[olive jewel]

so thats kinda like free ones

[hearty crag]

need to know how many dia i need / scrolls

[olive jewel]

250 or so pulls need to be yours?

[hearty crag]

mmk ty

[olive jewel]

dont quote me that is entirely memory

[opaque fable]

?

[olive jewel]

yes

[opaque fable]

Thank you very much jacko, im trying to push as hard as I can day 1. Hoping to be chap 10 at least

[barren fjord]

u could easily get to like ch 16 day 1

just depends if u have horrible luck or not

[olive jewel]

knowledge is important too

much easier the second time

[opaque fable]

Heres hoping to no horrible luck!

Gimme plenty of ivans and randle game ❤️

[barren fjord]

dw i got to ch 16 w a e+ randle and e+ ivan

after that u can try and get elthara which will help ALOT

im still using her at 1 copy in chapter 43 and she does billions of dmg

[olive jewel]

crazy how much easier it is to join during DI gift event

[barren fjord]

seriously

[opaque fable]

Whos elthara?

[barren fjord]

when is it happening :3

[barren fjord]

the lord and savior of campaign pushing

[opaque fable]

The gameplan is still just hoarde gems like a madlad until stargaze right?

[olive jewel]

next HB release

[barren fjord]

errrrrrrrr, @olive jewel early game do u use it on 4f or do you save for dragons

[olive jewel]

you need to pull in tavern

or else you cant progress

[barren fjord]

yes. this was a test by me to see if u would be right. hmph

erm @opaque fable what he said

[opaque fable]

When do i start saving?

[opaque fable]

So get a copy of her asap?

[barren fjord]

yeah

[barren fjord]

around 10-15 ascended heroes id say? thats when u would usually have the most important tavern heroes and wont need to pull much more

[opaque fable]

Thats alot of gems to burn

[barren fjord]

its fine u will get gems and scrolls as u just play and progress

[olive jewel]

We tend to be recommending a bit lower now since so few 4fs have long term value now

[barren fjord]

so like 6-8?

or 8-10

[olive jewel]

and there are dragons to drain dias too along with SG

I would say like 8-10

depends on if you get the important ones really

[opaque fable]

Two from each faction give or take

[hearty crag]

I tried no dia on 4f and stuck on 4f towers and campaign ch 39 now

Only 5 ascended 4f

Idk if its worth for 1 extra ascended sg unit

[olive jewel]

Jerome Palmer Alvida Misha Gorok Crandle Ivan Mira

really dont need much outside them early on

(rip moolers)

[barren fjord]

i mean, the scorpion girl and the fat bear panda thing are pretty decent at si20 for campaign pushing

but u prolly get those just passively

[olive jewel]

yeah

they just dont feel on the level of the top 4fs

[barren fjord]

yeah no exactly

and other 4fs need high invests to work

[olive jewel]

absolute chad Gorok though

"Naw just 203e30 me. Everyone else needs those materials"

[barren fjord]

same w mira

[opaque fable]

which one is gorok again?

[olive jewel]

beetle rider Wilder

[brazen terrace]

Can I see ur box

[brazen terrace]

How long u played?

[hearty crag]

Its pretty bad lemme dm

[opaque fable]

that guy

[agile crater]

=spirit

[opaque fable]

fail

[barren fjord]

on this acc? 3 months ish

[agile crater]

=siprio

[gilded sapphire]

Signature Item Prio Guide:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1008942630199107654

[opaque fable]

im just slowly pushing campaign, aint pulling just yet. Probably gonna wait for my wukong to stop being able to carry first

[barren fjord]

up to you

[nocturne oak]

Crazy how ive gotten 0 gorok and asc 4* atheus
I just want gorok :('

[cloud pollen]

If everyone can get what they want, any time they want, the world would be an utopia

But that can't happen because this world is full of sin and tainted, so utopia cannot and should not happen

Therefore, humanity created something that simulates "fate" in order to try to have a balance for everyone - RNG

[charred jetty]

there's also relative scarcity

[agile crater]

=furniture

[cloud pollen]

=furn

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911949525614644

[nocturne oak]

ty jacko

[nocturne oak]

and thats why by luck, you get blamed for everything

[tough forge]

=tierlist

[gilded sapphire]

Looking for a Tierlist?

Tierlists are generally quite untrustworthy in this game, because there's too many nuances and different factors that make certain heroes good or bad for different accounts. As a general guide, use the links below:

• 4 Faction Heroes: =wishlist
• Celestials/Hypogeans: #994913771598389318 message
• Awakened Heroes: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
• Dragons/HB: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235, But generally avoid them in the early game

[cloud pollen]

Then I'll gladly be the sacrifice and be placed on a cross and set on fire (then JD and a bunch of people would rescue me anyway)

Funny angry F2P still being so clingy about "Awakened swaps included everything from that year so why not highborn"

This is why they don't deserve dragon swap at all, the Gwyn thing may even be a one time and will not return next year

[grave hollow]

they should just quit the game than keep arguing

and there are ppls that dont even play the game yet still lurking on afk news like wts is wrong with u, move on

[cloud pollen]

Yeah I don't understand, if it bothers you so much there's practically no cost to leave since they are not customer

[grave hollow]

like if im quitting the game i wont ever check out its news. like fking move on

[cloud pollen]

Many times people are told that Hildwin swap is nono because exploits but because they are crazed, they blatantly ignore that and hoped Lilith doesn't notice like what

[grave hollow]

typical redditor behavior, un-employee final boss

[cloud pollen]

Man I have this urge to go in and shut them down even if I end up down voted to oblivion

But you can't talk sense into animals

[nocturne oak]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-gif-26275846

i have the same feeling in other games but just some ppl use saltiness as their action to cope for what they lack thereof

Its like blaming someone else for something you did when you know its your fault, nothing we can do but let them cope

[vivid wolf]

im salty my guildies got 2 swaps and i only got 1

[nocturne oak]

rip

[vivid wolf]

[charred jetty]

don't you already have all the wokes though

or did they get 2 HB swaps too

[vivid wolf]

i wanted swap 40 wondra > 30 zoh

nah they swapped woke at reset, 12hrs later got another swap for HB

[charred jetty]

oh

are you doing HB swap?

[vivid wolf]

already did. i was the guinea pig to see if we got 1 swap or 2 swaps

[cloud pollen]

Now that was dog, should have rolled back

Nowadays kids can't even handle slight setbacks

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/pay-attention-to-me-one-orange-brain-cell-kitten-cat-meow-gif-16762328332322827176

[vivid wolf]

i can handle setbacks, i just get salty. #saltykidcry

[willow bison]

[cloud pollen]

Too much salt in diet NG, should reduce level by removing all swaps, also remove merc usage for truly fair (tm) competitive experience

[vivid wolf]

miyuuuu saltyyyyy

[hybrid breach]

[vivid wolf]

wew remove merc, my nc will suffer

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474037037634945064/image0.gif

[vivid wolf]

unless M+ levi works

[cloud pollen]

You're supposed to face your adversaries with your true strength /s

Getting a massive OD, is not

[vivid wolf]

massive overdose ?

[cloud pollen]

Therefore I may consider contribution to that cause by denying merc from my accounts

[hybrid breach]

[cloud pollen]

Odysseus = Oddy = Ody = OD

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1478536461874626701/image0.gif

[vivid wolf]

OD = Obsydian Destroyer = Overdose = Onlydads

[cloud pollen]

Also pun intended because people who cannot get him as merc suffer massive OD from copium inhaling

[nocturne oak]

Who?

[cloud pollen]

Here's a good time to F2P to start contributing to community effort - pool your resources together to add more availability of OD expect anime betrayals

[vivid wolf]

i already made my GM bust his DIs for ody so i can merc

[shrewd spindle]

Way of kings has ruined oddy for me. I always hear odium

[vivid wolf]

woke antandra

[hearty crag]

swap 4 copies of wukong for a sg unit (lys or someone ) or just swap 1 copy 4f unit for 8 copies? (gorren/talimar)

[neon sparrow]

[hybrid breach]

you come in here and get upset by catposting that you backread for?

[cloud pollen]

Big susu is watching

[neon sparrow]

That’s where the channel opened to. No backreading done

[hybrid breach]

how is this my fault

[neon sparrow]

Must’ve been the 25th message back

[cloud pollen]

@hybrid breach Cared about you enough to default it to open

[neon sparrow]

You posted it…?

[hybrid breach]

i post pandas i should be exempt from you being upset at OS catposting

you werent even pinged by it

[neon sparrow]

I mean, it was supposed to be a funny atp

[hybrid breach]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kiwi-discord-cat

[buoyant fern]

[hybrid breach]

[buoyant fern]

[neon sparrow]

Yes. Yes you are

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474037037634945064/image0.gif

[buoyant fern]

Gabi too

[buoyant fern]

[neon sparrow]

@gabi who

[craggy oak]

@dave

[buoyant fern]

@dave

[hybrid breach]

fara

you join meme murderhouse game?

[buoyant fern]

No time

[hybrid breach]

[buoyant fern]

So much to do

Im knocking out rn too
No sleep last night then came home around 5

[hybrid breach]

[solar fractal]

Half way there

[solar fractal]

Btw you didn’t tell me how can I apply for Olympians and what’s the reqs

[buoyant fern]

None and y apply? Ur in fs no?

Its casual no req
Just stay active

[solar fractal]

For my new acc

[cloud pollen]

Gimme Olympians on mini

[solar fractal]

I need a new guild since fs is full

Need Soren

But I understand if it’s full

[dapper gate]

its usually 2 weeks between hero release right? so possible new woke in ~2 weeks?

[solar fractal]

Don’t wanna be in waitlist if others wanna join

Ignored again

[hybrid breach]

[buoyant fern]

Sorry eating
Ping me in an hour ill hop on open spot

[solar fractal]

[nocturne oak]

you shi ni

[opaque fable]

I need a mentor, anyone here got a free slot?

[nocturne oak]

#apprentice-mentor

[opaque fable]

forgot thats a channel, cheers

[haughty steeple]

Tmr we’re able to switch?

[lament torrent]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1490816326888067283/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69d56e66&is=69d41ce6&hm=17d8055d92b9b7fc0322f7c76c94cc2764ff3d1acd5ed5d6b862163c6aceeb45&

[solar fractal]

In 5hrs

[pulsar marlin]

What’s even the dolly dialogue after Mia

[solar fractal]

@inner olive remember when you said 2-3 weeks

Am gonna be busy rn but can definitely finish ch33 today lmao

This shi easy

[vast spoke]

any know if were getting hero swap tonight?

[solar fractal]

Ch34 in 6 days

[solar fractal]

In 5rs yes

[pulsar marlin]

Damn wawkes this goated?

[brazen terrace]

Can u show box please

[solar fractal]

Wts

I don’t use him

He’s trash

Does nothing

[brazen terrace]

Chapter 33 have 3 teams?

[opaque fable]

thats hella impressive

[solar fractal]

Yes

[opaque fable]

i am hoping to peak chapter 10 in one day

[brazen terrace]

Have u used any grit yet? And is there any free di to get elth?

[hearty crag]

skipping shuna for rem for campaign carry?

[opaque fable]

im on chapter 6 in 3hrs

[hearty crag]

if no need shuna, can see a world where i start new acc with randle/ rem / shalltear (not sure how she is in ch 35+) / 1 celepog / fawkes M so dnt need elthara team maybe for non di event start

[grim hamlet]

why is everyone downvoting this one lol

I know its kisaka so you'd expect something pro-whale and anti-f2p but adding monthly cards to exchange events would be a crazy value exchange item lol

[solar fractal]

I think no one reads why he says just down vote

Am guilty of that

[nocturne oak]

yunie is kisaka!?

[grim hamlet]

ya

[nocturne oak]

🤯

[grim hamlet]

original discord account got hacked

so had to change

[nocturne oak]

oh icic

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-cats-fnaf-cat-gif-19184811

[grim hamlet]

hence why they appeared in here a month ago and went straight to red status

[hybrid breach]

i got cs my first day here

[nocturne oak]

ic, i didnt check their join date

[hybrid breach]

took me months to get red tho

[nocturne oak]

im just tryna get by
I dont want much

[grim hamlet]

@charred jetty is this true?

[hybrid breach]

if going by my join date yes

[nocturne oak]

so whats everyone swap gna be

[queen edge]

actually no idea

[hybrid breach]

im going to swap @solar fractal with kisaka

[nocturne oak]

same

[nocturne oak]

thats
Good?
Bad?

[brazen terrace]

Isn't this will be better for f2p? Why everyone down voting

[solar fractal]

Jokes on you were the same person

[nocturne oak]

i did not read therefore did not vote

[grave hollow]

if only they give 30k dias for no swap

[solar fractal]

Don’t you think it’s weird how am so smart for being a new player

[grave hollow]

now i will only get 10k, sad noice

[queen edge]

i thought maybe zohra for pippa

[nocturne oak]

Nop

[grim hamlet]

oh I get it now lol

[solar fractal]

Like genuinely am so so smart

Like really smart

It’s crazy

Coincidence I don’t think so

[hybrid breach]

smart? youre just stinky

[grim hamlet]

you actually have no swaps? how lol

[opaque fable]

when do you unlock autobattle again?

[solar fractal]

21

Am also getting 10k

[nocturne oak]

idk wat to swap for mine
:wobble:

[solar fractal]

Nc rehits ig

[grim hamlet]

wts

no eugene ig?

[brazen terrace]

Also is there really a difference if the down vote is higher? Like does Lilith will actually made something if the upvote is higher?

[grim hamlet]

not even floras to use?

[solar fractal]

No nothing I have all wokes all celepo all dragons

[solar fractal]

She’s only L

Not worth

[nocturne oak]

:nowoy:

[grave hollow]

i optimized thing too much i dont have regret at all kek

[solar fractal]

F2p’s have it too easy

[grim hamlet]

I mean, free is free

[solar fractal]

But like I have nothing to swap for lol

[grim hamlet]

I just mean 3 copies of a celepo is worht more then 10k dia lol

[nocturne oak]

maybe i swap gorok for atheus

[solar fractal]

3 copies of who

[grim hamlet]

flora

she's L right?

[solar fractal]

To?

[grim hamlet]

idk who are you missing?

[solar fractal]

No one

[grim hamlet]

someone for tree then lol

[solar fractal]

Maybe mortas

He’s kinda used

[grave hollow]

if i do wanna swap i will swap some E60 to non-E60 to get those 4500 cores instead

[solar fractal]

He pops up sometimes

[grim hamlet]

oh also yea do you not have a dead +40 yet?

move wycas around maybe

[solar fractal]

To?

[grim hamlet]

i guess shes kind of back in NC

[solar fractal]

Skri? Lmao

[charred jetty]

skri wants 40

do it

[solar fractal]

Eh

[grim hamlet]

I mean, yea? he's pretty nice in CR

[charred jetty]

[grave hollow]

yeah, maybe wyca to gavus but do i need it tho

[opaque fable]

thank you very much

[charred jetty]

regardless taking 10k diamonds is a meme

[solar fractal]

Wts

You mean r2?

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/pipotam-pipotamer-zazu-gif-16657364898443733123

[grim hamlet]

no sorry I meant TS

[solar fractal]

Ah

[grim hamlet]

she's dead and gone in NC

lyca isn't though

[solar fractal]

Am thinking of maybe swaping Lib

[grim hamlet]

just wyca

[solar fractal]

But maybe he’s gonna need si40 later so don’t wanna gamble

[nocturne oak]

who is the wyca

[grim hamlet]

do you really have every HB btw?

[solar fractal]

Only missing Skylan

[grim hamlet]

well

how bad do you want him lol

[solar fractal]

I can build him rn but I believe he is the worse character to get in the game

[nocturne oak]

oh why

[solar fractal]

Useless

Maybe because I’ve never struggled in ts

[nocturne oak]

he's used in TS no?

[solar fractal]

But I see no value in him

[grim hamlet]

I mean he's still in like 3 CRs too

[nocturne oak]

I see e.e

[grim hamlet]

also LC and trift and AE

he's falling but he's got a lot going on still

also hes a viable r5 right now?

this time I do mean NC

[cobalt abyss]

LC is impossible for casual sharky is there

[grim hamlet]

ah

[solar fractal]

3 rounds of cr he can be easily subbed in

Like 1b difference

[cobalt abyss]

and he can just merc sky if he wanted to

[solar fractal]

This

[grim hamlet]

well anyway the reason I asked how bad do you want him is I've been told there's apparently gwyn specific pop-up promo packs that still appear even now if you build her. I obviously can't confirm this cause I'm definitely not building her but ig building gwyn is a little cheaper then an off-ship HB normally

so you can whale her for a little less then normal and then swap

[solar fractal]

But the thing is I already have 4 copies of him lol

[cobalt abyss]

is wyca used anywhere besides ts?

[solar fractal]

Got 3 from dragon summons

And 1 I pulled early on the game

[solar fractal]

Nope

[hybrid breach]

she might have like 1 cr round where she can sub in somewhere

[cobalt abyss]

since i have to think of a swap target on gsus

[grim hamlet]

Also this is kind of a lot btw lol. People that do CR seriously would build just about anything for an extra billion, probably just for one round let alone 3

[hybrid breach]

i did fawkes si40 for the chance of 500b increase

[solar fractal]

Oh right 1b is kinda a lot ye

But I don’t think I can really compete to where 1b is important yet in cr

I think for now stuck 8-6%

[grim hamlet]

is fawkes 40 good btw? I was just talking about it with snap and omega. They were confused why I hadn't done it already. It wasn't really even on my radar tbh

[hybrid breach]

it honestly felt super mid after doing it

[solar fractal]

Yes

[grim hamlet]

he seems to do just fine in TS with 30, he's not in NC and his CR impact has seemed kind of small?

[hybrid breach]

i think i ended up with like a 100m increase on the round i did it for? and i didnt care about ts so i didnt pay attention to how it affected that

[cloud pollen]

If you're fine with 30 then you keep getting away with 30, some investments are region dependent and unnecessary if you meet your goals without issues

[hybrid breach]

and he wasnt in nc back then

[grim hamlet]

I mean he's still not

ig he's still techically an alt in r4?

[cloud pollen]

Fawkes is a poor man sub for NC when you can't even get Elthara

[nocturne oak]

how much dmg are u getting in CR

[hybrid breach]

i dont play anymore but on avg i was 0.x-3% cr

[grim hamlet]

idk that he ever subbed elth? He can sub pippa. kind of

[cloud pollen]

I know @wraith fjord runs him and gets OD merc for last round

[hybrid breach]

my last plates, i dont think i touched ts a single time this calc

[cobalt abyss]

tho best i could get the pippa round when i was testing for a friend was 27s

[cloud pollen]

Or something, it was some 21s Fawkes fro dome people

[grave hollow]

so u was around 2% CR huh

[hybrid breach]

0.x-3%

[grave hollow]

time to be faster, gotta eat dubbys

[hybrid breach]

depended on week

[cloud pollen]

Why faster that just stress you out

[solar fractal]

He can sub lan r2

[grave hollow]

gotta get that t200 plate on CR to complete the 3 RGM mode

[willow bison]

[grim hamlet]

oh ok, i guess that's something then

[cloud pollen]

Been there done that just stay permanent 1% for CR

[cobalt abyss]

Oh yeah true stw run correct?

[hybrid breach]

the 3 plates before my final

[grim hamlet]

oh. with drac. that's pretty expensive then lol

[hybrid breach]

oh i duped one

[willow bison]

oh btw @charred jetty gets pony 24 quick, imma hit nc before drac trial expired

[cloud pollen]

Isn't it just 15% USD

[grim hamlet]

capybara runs some fun comps lol

[solar fractal]

If you don’t have bunny not really

[grim hamlet]

I mean in terms of unit cost. Like running her there instead of r1

[solar fractal]

Since most ppl using cha r2 probably don’t have him anyways

[cloud pollen]

R1 also needs 40 Lyca I think

[grim hamlet]

how do you figure that? People get 14s moving aure to r4 with chest now

[cobalt abyss]

yup

[cloud pollen]

You need rabbit and Aurelia to attempt 13 or 14

[willow bison]

yeah, with kraken pippa merc

[solar fractal]

Need fat pipa

Again if your using cha r2 probably don’t have fat pipa lmao

[cloud pollen]

That inspired me, time to white star Pipppppppa

[grim hamlet]

I mean yea but still, it happens

[solar fractal]

XD

[willow bison]

also that round is VERY high rng, like 70% of the time it would be 17+

[grim hamlet]

capybara is also using tatsu right?

[charred jetty]

oh yeah

do you want to summon?

[solar fractal]

I think ye

[willow bison]

where meow

[charred jetty]

or I can hit up meow/viny

@inner yarrow

[grim hamlet]

capybara is playing a different game lol. its great, still in t200 and copying no one

[solar fractal]

You should see his ts cooking

[willow bison]

oh with 24 pony i can finally run drac r1

time would be saved a lil bit

[solar fractal]

He actually this green lady is so op in ts lol

[cobalt abyss]

They are impressive i love looking at their nc runs

[solar fractal]

And I mean it looks like he’s not wrong

[grim hamlet]

why is there a nevanthi lol

[solar fractal]

Ask him

[willow bison]

Honestly that r2 if you have drac you have multiple ways

im running marci drac on jd also, ez 26s

[hybrid breach]

i remember using nev back in r48

[grim hamlet]

in TS or 10 team TV?

[charred jetty]

ok how did that comp beat wuci

oh it's burst TS

[hybrid breach]

ok first one isnt nev but check this cooking

[grave hollow]

0%

[charred jetty]

this seems hella old

[solar fractal]

Wth am I looking at

[grave hollow]

must be Dubbs first TS

[hybrid breach]

july 2024

my acc was 3-5months old i think? was my first ever acc

[charred jetty]

how did you get a big acc

just top 100 TS -> nihi?

[hybrid breach]

i applied for a giveaway and they said here you go

[charred jetty]

oh nice

[grave hollow]

some one with VIP18 give him his acc

[hybrid breach]

yeah

[grave hollow]

then Dubbs proceed to make that acc VIP28

[charred jetty]

^

[hybrid breach]

jd can we ban him

[charred jetty]

grumble should join nihi

[hybrid breach]

pink dubby when

[charred jetty]

I'd like to see what he can cook up with a big acc

[grave hollow]

thats fact, u cant ban the truth

[willow bison]

soon we will have more branches than radiant

[charred jetty]

is nihi full rn

[hybrid breach]

converting ppl from ts to nihi would be difficult especially since we dont really wanna strain relations between guilds

[inner yarrow]

Ugh. What is pony

[charred jetty]

ok meow is here

[hybrid breach]

no weve got slots across a few guilds

[charred jetty]

pull time

[willow bison]

after patch

[inner yarrow]

The first pet ?

[charred jetty]

yeah

[willow bison]

Yeah
Also pulling dragonlites too

[inner yarrow]

Oke got it

[charred jetty]

?

is patch done?

[willow bison]

no in 4 hrs

[charred jetty]

yes I play this game a lot as you can tell

[inner yarrow]

Nope. 4 more hrs

[cobalt abyss]

i will krill you

[charred jetty]

[willow bison]

u should join nihi

[hybrid breach]

hasnt even started

[charred jetty]

just absorb ts

[solar fractal]

I would kill you

[charred jetty]

[willow bison]

true

[neon sparrow]

Skree

[charred jetty]

make a new giga guild branch

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1477472517475139738/image0.gif

[charred jetty]

doesn't TS also have a lot of big accounts

[solar fractal]

Smh nihi doing its thing and poaching

[neon sparrow]

Someone woke up and chose violence

[charred jetty]

grumble should get oen

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1483248995483521054/image0.gif

[opaque fable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1477472517475139738/image0.gif

[neon sparrow]

There there. Bless your heart

[hybrid breach]

khua doesnt love me enough to consider?

[cobalt abyss]

I love you lots tho

[grave hollow]

join us, i will promise u a 24/7 suprise attack event

[hybrid breach]

[charred jetty]

is it time to upgrade RAM

frickin 2 months after I got a new computer

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1488337473997377637/image0.gif

[grave hollow]

[charred jetty]

maybe I do need the 96gb ram

on my laptop

[grave hollow]

for what tho, playing 50 AFK accs?

[charred jetty]

claude code spam

jokes aside, my work is pretty RAM intensive

and my wsl keeps crashing

[nocturne oak]

ic

[haughty steeple]

How long til anni starts

[nocturne oak]

dual boot when >:3

[brazen terrace]

What's nihi

[neon sparrow]

Nihi the guild?

[rustic plinth]

Are there any active cd keys for classic

[brazen terrace]

So nihi that they're talking about is a guild?

[neon sparrow]

A guild cluster yes

[sturdy umbra]

fucking 8 bronn 5 mira 5 ivan 5 simona, but only 1 randle, im gonna crash the fuck out

[brazen terrace]

There's more than 1 nihi guild?

[brazen terrace]

Can't u grit them?

[neon sparrow]

Yup. Ex, Re, Co, Ob, and Ad

[brazen terrace]

Ahh ic

[sturdy umbra]

that would be an insane grit usage, no shot that would be even close to optimal

surely not

if its fine, then yea when I hit 10 bronn im instantly gritting bronn to randle

[cloud pollen]

That's the thing, you can't expect perfect moves at all times, sometimes you have to do tradeoffs between less optimal but allowing you to skip the problems, or wait out for perfection taking god knows how long

[sturdy umbra]

how many grit uses do you get

[brazen terrace]

R u in nihi?

[brazen terrace]

Total 4 I think

[cloud pollen]

Playing optimally alone won't get you best ranks, but making the right decisions based on circumstances gets you further

[hybrid breach]

=grit

[gilded sapphire]

Legacy of Grit Information:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1204202682907230229

[sturdy umbra]

ah nvm, if its 4 then its nbd, idk where bronn is used but Im certain a1 randle > a1 bronn

[cloud pollen]

I'm a servant in Nihi having to clean up the messes after the meals, gardening, cleaning up toilets, and all that

[frank marsh]

If I understand correctly, this event allows me to swap heros ascension levels?

[brazen terrace]

Is nihi like the top 1 guild in global server?

[cloud pollen]

Depends on how you measure top 1

[hybrid breach]

yes, ignore it for the next 53days

[frank marsh]

I c

[sturdy umbra]

see if I followed that advice I could be stuck with an E randle for 53 days lol

[solar fractal]

Not event close

[cloud pollen]

Don't ignore if you need that Randle badly but you picked up 8 copies of a useless hero

[brazen terrace]

Good advice, I got one left

[frank marsh]

If that's the case I should try to get a character to as high ascension as possible then swap with one of my main characters?

[brazen terrace]

So why everyone talking about the guild? Idk bcs I'm not in global

[cloud pollen]

If you mean top 1 as in how many rank 1 NCs the family (mainly Ex) took then yes, at least for this week

[solar fractal]

Cuz most ppl in here are from there

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1490888093950148799/image0.gif

[brazen terrace]

Roxsta the only one I know from test

[winter halo]

Nilh isn't top one but it's definitely within the top leagues

No bias

[brazen terrace]

U also there?

[cloud pollen]

[solar fractal]

Ew

[hybrid breach]

currently nihi is one of the biggest rgm guilds but top is hard to say. ami ruby and kbrs are better at things like ae but the overall avg performance of nihi in rgms is probably better except in like top10 cr. nihi also has one of the biggest public discords tho a lot of that came from the IJ event

[solar fractal]

I mean no

[willow bison]

[solar fractal]

No mercy

[cobalt abyss]

They are a bunch of lovely folks

[cloud pollen]

@brazen terrace U want to join? Just say yes

[neon sparrow]

[hybrid breach]

@charred jetty we should ban casual

[brazen terrace]

I'm not in global

[cloud pollen]

Aren't you meant to ask your other half to do that?

[vivid wolf]

we got NM players in our guild on test

[hybrid breach]

i meant here but i still technically have perms in nihi

[neon sparrow]

bite the tongue, bite the tongue, bite the tongue

[cloud pollen]

Be in global then, you know how to play by now just accept being stepped on by casual and enjoy it

[hybrid breach]

[brazen terrace]

Nihi have their own discord server?

[cloud pollen]

But like, gotta respect the wishes of dabbysama

[brazen terrace]

[cloud pollen]

Discordgg NihilumEmpire from memory

[charred jetty]

what did he do this time

oh the no mercy comment

[solar fractal]

[neon sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-day-of-judgement-28-years-later-judgement-day-is-here-sony-pictures-gif-17858869555590628131

[solar fractal]

Wait what

[hybrid breach]

actively badmouthing nihi while asking for help in the nihi server seems one way to get on the servers bad side

[cloud pollen]

No mercy in terms of AE is indeed rank 1

[hybrid breach]

being stinky

[solar fractal]

What’s wrong with no mercy

[cloud pollen]

You can define rank 1 in different ways @brazen terrace

[hybrid breach]

i didnt say anything about NM, i said you were stinky

[vivid wolf]

[solar fractal]

Jd starting drama as usual

[hybrid breach]

NM did recently take some of our recent joins tho

[charred jetty]

like how I'm the most f2p player here

[hybrid breach]

from Ob/Co

[charred jetty]

#1 most f2p

[willow bison]

me 2

[vivid wolf]

[grave hollow]

Me 3

[solar fractal]

Show perk level

[charred jetty]

uh...

[cloud pollen]

Aren't they like poccnr to begin with so it's natural for them to gravitate there

[charred jetty]

[winter halo]

You are the reason Skye's vip spreadsheet went up to 36

[brazen terrace]

Is there a f2p player that reach ch70? Or it impossible

[winter halo]

Nice jd

[charred jetty]

[winter halo]

[vivid wolf]

jd is in 78

[cloud pollen]

Dude, I operating an F2P account in ch76 right now

[hybrid breach]

yeah they were some russian players from prodata i think? when they disbanded

[solar fractal]

Reaching ch70 would take years

Even for whales

[cloud pollen]

Just grab the other non poccnr talents

[vivid wolf]

im ketchuping to you kisaka channnnn 78-29 now

[brazen terrace]

Isn't he's saying he is f2p was a joke?

[solar fractal]

Campaign is only for new players then it becomes a dead mode

Cuz you can’t beat it

[winter halo]

No jd is actually f2p

[brazen terrace]

[vivid wolf]

nah jd cant spend on afk

[hybrid breach]

jd is a massive whale but yes you can hit ch78 f2p

[solar fractal]

His acc isn’t

[cloud pollen]

I think some are in 78 but by now it's all about being able to cram levels enough to get through power cap

[charred jetty]

ch78 is super easy to hit now anyways

lilith screwed endgame campaign

[brazen terrace]

[charred jetty]

ch78 is like end of midgame now

in terms of player proportion

[craggy oak]

I'm f2p ch78

[grave hollow]

does 60-1 the beginning of midgame yet

[hybrid breach]

hi lvl42bunnyf2p

[neon sparrow]

Too many f2p with big rc

[craggy oak]

Yeah ch progression is super easy

[charred jetty]

you know the gap between 78-48 and 78-49 is 300 RC levels

[craggy oak]

Just old players

[solar fractal]

@buoyant fern hope you enjoyed your food don’t forget

[charred jetty]

300 RC levels is also the gap between like ch31 and ch71

[grave hollow]

ancient players

[hybrid breach]

ch71 isnt rc500

[brazen terrace]

So u need 300 more level to be able to push through?

[charred jetty]

oh wait

I was thinking 600

[solar fractal]

You need at least level 800

[solar fractal]

Am at 600 and stuck at 61

[charred jetty]

but yeah the gap between 78-1 and 78-49 is 500+ levels

[winter halo]

If you just 5036 e100 all your heroes you should make it through a few more stages

Food for thought

[charred jetty]

that's the gap between ch31 and ch76

[brazen terrace]

Rc800 can go ch78?

[solar fractal]

[cobalt abyss]

On the r54 acc it’s at 630 iirc and ch65 pcap

[charred jetty]

literally the entire game is stuck in ch78 now

[hybrid breach]

if you just whale 5k on yuxei dust you can push a few stages too

[charred jetty]

with half of the entire game stuck on 78-49

[winter halo]

I don't think 5k would even be enough

[brazen terrace]

Even Julius?

[charred jetty]

and lilith is adding ch83 tmr

yep

[hybrid breach]

perfect game, nothing wrong

[charred jetty]

Julius and woody literalyl determine when people can push

[brazen terrace]

What yuxei dust?

[charred jetty]

by people I mean literally everyoen

[hybrid breach]

a way to whale a lot of dust, just not very efficient or worth doing

[winter halo]

Jd would recommend you refresh the store to buy dust crates with diamonds

[brazen terrace]

If anyone could answer how much dust to upgrade rc1305

[hybrid breach]

uh after like rc550 its al 44.5k a lvl

so just math it

[grave hollow]

what if math isnt mathing

[hybrid breach]

turn it off then back on again

[solar fractal]

At least 3

[brazen terrace]

I mean from 1305 to 1306... Is it still 44.5k?

[hybrid breach]

yeah

[winter halo]

Cs for not even a week and you're already giving answers like thisb

[brazen terrace]

So it's fixed at 44.5k a level ?

[hybrid breach]

after a certain point yep

slightly lower than max dust income

you can do just over 5 lvls in 2 weeks with max income, so you slowly reach max rc even when getting all new hero

[charred jetty]

44544

there's an RC scaling guide that used to be relevant once upon a time around 5 years ago

[grave hollow]

i heard that there is 60k ppl stucked on Ch78

[charred jetty]

I put in like 3 suggestions already

lilith is just trolling

idk what they are doing

lategame campaign is a joke now

[grave hollow]

they are like who care about late game campaign for a game that run for 8 years already

[charred jetty]

and they keep adding more and more chasmic

[hybrid breach]

time to ping bear directly

[charred jetty]

I literally did

[rugged ridge]

=earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

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[hybrid breach]

time to ping her in nihi now too

[charred jetty]

she's in nihi?

???

what the heck she's actually in nihi

[hybrid breach]

we should give her an acc so she can see how awful the game is

[brazen terrace]

Isn't it shuna shall? Or there's newer guide

[charred jetty]

lol

[grave hollow]

who is dat

[charred jetty]

wait today

but honestly idk what they can even do to fix campaign now

options include:

1. release literally 20-30 more chapters

[hybrid breach]

completely reset, everyone starts back at 1-1

[charred jetty]

2. make new chapters require 7-10 teams

[grave hollow]

i dont know what CM mean

[charred jetty]

3. remove pcap and ramp enemy levels like +100 per chapter

[hybrid breach]

champions meet

[charred jetty]

commnuity manager

[grave hollow]

i almost believe in JD then he did a typo, guess Dubbs was right

[cobalt abyss]

dubbs is always correct

[grave hollow]

they should just remove pcap, add Woke and HB in PvE bot teams

like, how about 5 Skylans in a team

or... 5 Awfawkes

[brazen terrace]

[charred jetty]

???

[charred jetty]

they should just make campaign more campaign

[grave hollow]

[charred jetty]

less KT, more campaign

the difference being

• KT = 3 cancerous enemy teams with very high deficit -> Players just stack cheese comps
• Camp = lots of teams that aren't as cancerous -> Players have to spread out their roster more

[solar fractal]

They should add hard mode campaign

[grave hollow]

or they should... just end the campaign at Ch 78 or smthing, then make a new campaign system

like, end game campaign

[solar fractal]

And I know what your thinking too much rewards for f2p make it like rift where we get like 1 stage a day

[charred jetty]

they should have stopped it at ch80

idk why they kept going

they just kept going and going and going without giving anyone the ability to actually reach that far

or alternatively if they just remove the 5 RC max cap

but then fabled is going to be a bit weird

[brazen terrace]

Whats the = to check which unlock at which chapter

[craggy oak]

=unlock

[gilded sapphire]

When Does X Unlock?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1076492667065745459

[vivid wolf]

=lock

[craggy oak]

=un

[vivid wolf]

[cloud pollen]

I still think my crazy idea of 100 per fabled level up to the closest 100 to RC cap (1300) is cool, it makes even twisted realm "lively"

[vivid wolf]

have you talked to kitteh bout that ?

[cloud pollen]

Who cares about some filthy human animal hybrid

[open oyster]

What yall thoughts on odysseus potentially being better than elthara

[vivid wolf]

sppiiiicccccyyyyy

[cloud pollen]

He has massive advantage for being in extremely short supply and still is a meta, but he's still not as strong and being a tank makes tree a bit restrictive

[open oyster]

Does he out perform her in any other CR or just the one we had?

[cloud pollen]

It's like 3-4 weeks of being in CR Now

[open oyster]

He has been in all CR 6/6

[solar fractal]

Elthra is 6/6 while he’s 5/6 and he’s worse in ts

[cloud pollen]

The main downside is still the tank requirement making most people's defective

[solar fractal]

And probably will fall off of nc after r6 leaves while elthra won’t

[open oyster]

Pretty sure he is also 6/6 CR. I will check the floof thing

[cloud pollen]

Isn't seasonal heroes great

[open oyster]

That's a good point

[solar fractal]

Nope he added like 200m and was worse rng lol

It was shemira I think

When he first came out

[open oyster]

Ah maybe not well optimized but still technically 6/6 then.

[solar fractal]

Technically yes but not needed

[cloud pollen]

Sometimes, that 200m difference is the difference between you remaining a pleb, or get to new heights

[open oyster]

I guess elthara adds more damage overall though in most CR

[cloud pollen]

Easier to merc

[open oyster]

I got my perma merc now

[cloud pollen]

Only time will tell

[open oyster]

But if cant merc, there is really a valid argument for ody being a better choice to build

Not that good of an argument though

[cloud pollen]

On the other hand, you can make Elthara work with 4096X with 1*, OD though, a lot more difficult

But like, your best option depends on so many things not just game mechanics and performance

[open oyster]

Yeah didn't ody do very well in last 2 TS as well?

[grave hollow]

Odys is like, the ultimate FOMO bait

his TS team is expensive af too

[open oyster]

It definitely feels that way

[grave hollow]

he himself wont work at minimal investment ( which is 40960 )

[cloud pollen]

For example, people who goes and say Lan is the #1 priority (back then), tend to be loners who lack true friendship so they had to build the more optimal option, some on the other hand, can get Lan as merc so easily, leaving them free to go for the actual better ones

[open oyster]

"loners who lack true friendship"

[cloud pollen]

I mean if you're close friends it's kind of expected that your friend will priortise you for mercs no?

[grave hollow]

im pretty sure many build Odys just to realize they cant make him work at all and then crying

[cloud pollen]

I love how many people settle with 20s R6 with him

[open oyster]

I am actually getting my ody merc from someone who I used to always give my skylan merc to. Good karma comes back

[grave hollow]

like sure, try to build him f2p scrubs

[cloud pollen]

Would be so delicious to take down if I could just finish either one

And then I'll enjoy mini top 200 again for a while

[open oyster]

How big does ody need to be is it just usually node diff or does it need more?

[cloud pollen]

Bigger the easier you manage CMBR

[harsh acorn]

Loler t1 Skylan fan

[open oyster]

Skylan never failed me in TS

[tepid raft]

@harsh acorn

[cloud pollen]

He remains strong af after like 2 years

[harsh acorn]

Still stupid OP. Kind of nuts lol. Also sees nc sub usage, and some cr sub usage.

[harsh acorn]

Where did this come from
That’s too funny haha

[tepid raft]

I made it lmao

[cloud pollen]

Anyone know an online spinning plate generator or whatever

[grave hollow]

iirc thats a real sub too