#classic-questions
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and since they decided to have a swap wouldn't it be fair to have it for all types of heroes?
bro you say that like 1 copy of levi is gonna do shit. everyone has levi built, so its like giving 10k diamonds. id rather have 10k diamonds than a random levi copy
You still disregard the point where, dragon stars costs DIs which is cost prohibitive for everyone except anyone close to Julius, why should F2P of all things, get extra free DI worth of things, for no effort
If it costed even TE then you wouldn't even see anywhere near as much resistance from some of us
And it should have been, it would make sense, but they chose not to, so ultimately F2P should not benefit from swap which bypass the requirement of using DI for stars
and so this is why its like memeish. theres no point its like lilith doesn't really care
And you know it, so just get used to it, instead of wishing death, I mean I did it in the past pretty sure but I was nowhere near as mad
feel like the swap would create another class of f2p that were able to build hildwin vs those that didnt have enough time
firstly dragons itself was a big detriment to f2p because was clearly built for p2w players. Therefore shouldn't f2p or smaller spenders get something back for competeing with those people who received a benefit BECAUSE OF the dragons?
This is also a factor
stop saying "wishing death" as an argument. it isn't even related to the larger scope of the conversation
In the end it’s difficult to truly make it “fair”
And that's one of the things I fear the most, now you kill off even newer potential spenders because they are completely gated behind those who benefit from Hildwin swap
And argument that "They can just spend a lot more" goes to show how uncultured some of these dogs are
hard to satisfy everyone
solution : no draconic swap
exactly whats happening xd
Solution:50 bucks for the swap
im gonna eat u
offspring 💔
-2
Nephew
Lilith already opened the can of worms by being like the ONLY company to ever allow, or at least first, to allow hero swaps, see the problems now followed? This keeps other gacha game companies from doing the same
noones right but both make fair points I feel. The truth is that there’s no way to go about it that will be the “correct” thing to do. Both outcomes result in people benefiting less than they would like
Ainz dont fence sit pick a side bro
i started playing 8 months ago give me 5* elthara please
Nah it’s not black and white though lol I would if it was
all right you still didn't answer of my point being that as a f2p or small spender you already are being put on the back foot by AFK releasingn something that was made specifically for p2w ers. so why can't they get somethingn back for competing against unfair competition
Its not profitable💔
therefore ppl can riot 👍
Hb swap isn't happening.
Why even argue over something you can't change 
Boom check your account
No they're not being "put on backfoot", you're probably top 100 by now you should be in comfort zone, but you never were in backfoot, you're not pushed to double %er and significantly reduced rank rewards or anything
I got Kenny's number personally lemme call him rq and ask him to add it
Just lying🤣
yes but now i can basically never compete in NC, nor crack into top 50
Is it really unfair for people willing to spend for power, against those who are unwilling?
Shhhh😂😂
Did i miss spell smth 💔
Yes bro😭
Lilith is already making cash grabs, which already destroyed the "balance" that existed before. So why does it matter in this case?
Oh yeahhh okok no worries will be switched now
Then don't, top 100 is already amazing achievement, past this point you're just being greedy and unrealistic, AFK is not a grind game so you can't "spend time" to make up
Also, exposed your true inner desires, to gain ranks without putting in effort
pluls they have the woke pet cash grab so why does dragons even matter at this point? they can't just infitely profit off people
(i have no other 5* heroes yet 💔 i cant continue the joke xd)
@tepid totem can we get your opinion on the matter?
I am just saying how dragons have already destroyed the balance between f2p and p2w, so why can't lilith make it more fair and resotre the balance.
It’s fine it was funny while it lasted😂😢
balance is rarely profitable, they are a company 💔
Because they do not have to, F2P can also go make their own dragons, or just be satisfied with not placing as high
Sup gang
Sup bro
Also, I will slap your faces by attempting feats most people have not done: I will prop friends to top 50 NC using mercs
Yuni why u vote no on the hb swap thing for the classic suggestions u clanker
i have already explained before, more f2p = better visibility = better chance for small spenders or p2w to join and play the game
Son?
I ALWAYS was against the idea
More f2p keeps the game healthier
T50 nc in general has always been difficult or close to impossible to achieve f2p and there are very few to ever achieve it tbh 
It lowkey might be more profitable to allow a hbd swap
since f2p are the vast majority of the game, and they very likely may share the game with friends, post it on social media, or simply gain revenue by downloading the game
The silent majority makes up for it, no need for the percentage of chronic whiners
More f2p = more light spenders = more whales
Its the best idea
What am i suppose to do with my overbuilt Dgwyn
Cause the whales gotta get stronger dragons to keep up with the stronger f2p
i meant top 50 ts lol
Cherish her and just give her her own fancy room with fine dining
take in her beauty
i menat top 50 ts and like 2-5% nc
Damn my point got glossed over😭 😭
You can still do that just be patient 
NC by this point, is kind of their own fault for not seeing the meta clearly
.
I mean my mini will also drop back to % later but still, it's just a small setback
breh gonna take me +6 months when p2w just keep getting more and more
Yunie so whats the convo about this time in questions channel
Hbd swap😭
Nah i brought that up just now
Your dad should have kept that palantir stock
shocker: spending money gets you stuff
A sore loser who literally death threats Lilith for refusing to be driven by the loud barking community into giving dragon swap
like hell is he gonna give me any money to play games
Maybe never know
a very biased answer
Lmao, fr who ?
See above 
Holy exaggeration
They literally just jumped out
They scared

Fishing is a fun activity, often the prey just jumps out from as little as small string vibration
more like a person who is delusional to the cash grabs of lilith and simply wants to let the game go with the flow because they are in a comfortable position and don't want people challenging their spot
I still believe its more profitable for Lilith to do a hbd swap🤣
It's more profitable but it can kill off the actual spenders because "I spent for advantage and now F2P gets free 5*? Fuck them"
Nope i spoke to one of the CM’s
So what we will one more
They would have no clue lol💀 💀 💀
Keeping it 0 vs 1, is always easier than 1 vs 2, in competitive
Damn I typed so ahh
I'd rather have one less dragons against an opponent with ZERO, than giving them any chances by getting a Skylan even if I have another highborn
I meant to say there would be more spenders but😭
Guys can we please get more hypo and celes floors by chance lilith ? 🥹
You see? you don't wnat the swap because yo ufeel like you will receive competition and therefore make the game harder to play because you have to actually compete
I think that's on patch notes? KT gets another 50 and faction towers all get another 50 or something
celepog get 20
Bro 1200 floors aint enough
They should have made celepogean three teams by now
Im still on floor 4 any tips guys?
Yeah i agree
Keep watching SAO to figure out how they progress
im so unemployed why am i talking to some stranger for like over 30 minutes 😭
Close your eyes and make a wish
Ive never seen SAO
Oh wait nevermind, time skip 
Holy Unemployed
SAO is killed potential for fan service, they should have been 200+ episodes of slowly going up MMO style
i mean u also want the swap because itll shorten the gap with the whales while also creating a huge gap with the newer players . everyone has their own agenda that benefits them lol
Says u
@naive echo im employed at like 20 hours a week
Should work manual labour
Shouldn't everyone at some point in life?
No, i want the swap because I feel like itll make the game more fair and also more visible to other people who aren't playing the game but hear the reviews 😉
Some still do
that me, a coolie
Me do 60 hours
Nope, I still think no dragon swap is fairest of them all because +0 for everyone means no advantage for anyone
the swap only benefits a subset of players tho and shafts all the newer ppl no?
Face each other by your own strength, not by Lilith backed "some get big boost others get NONE"
Yuni u think i can swap swolise
She aint gonna be important later, no?
Solise is like tower only no?
I'm trying to decide if mini is going to swap Eugene, or Eironn, or Belinda
ok bro i gtg so like im not convesrationing this anymore
Suffer well, mortal
Why Belinda and eirron over eugene😭
My mini im thinkin for swolise to go
Eugene is only M+ so I still need to burn TE to build next awakened
I appreciate it miss
There never was drama, just debates over a silly idea that never should even come across Lilith mind, it opens up even more risks and makes F2P way more entitled
And why are you entitled to make this statement
Because I'm considered valuable by Belinda at least 
same reason you are entitled to make the opposite
Thats actually sad bro
Also as practically the public enemy of those dragon swap voters by being the staunch anti dragon swap advocate
Because were all equals🥹 🥹
i support you, dont let them stinky old players get a free hildwin swap 😈
I love how even redditers are now handling it well, they're already moved onto deciding which aweakened to swap for
(im so new i would get negative value from any kind of swap)
See the problem? Allowing them to get their ways means:
- Top leaderboard either feels threat, or some unprepared players gets overtaken by unexpected 5* highborn boost
- People on bottom who had a chance to catch up to those entitled F2Ps, now has no chance at all, because they didn't got a big Hildwin to swap for
tbh simply bc hildwin the HB swap is very very unfair
First team
Randle + Ivan + lady simona + Bronn + any other hero (gorren or atheus)
Second team
Alvida + Mira + gorok + palmer + any other hero
My questions are
1- which one do I use on first team?
2-which hero should I put as my 5th members on team 2
3-should I start wishing for wilders hero in factional wishing (because i don’t have gorok)
If they get their way they would have accomplished so many things like
- Improve my own ranks (unfairly)
- Make sure people behind you can never catch up
- Be more cocky
ppl also saying shit like : block the hildwin, they want Dwyn swapable
Campaign clear? For 'optimal comps' consider =earlymulti
like,. yeah sure u want ur shiny Dwyn to be swap to Elthara
Yeah but I don’t have the dragon hero and I don’t think I will get her any time soon
The Hildwin swap OCDs should technically have war with Gwyn swappers
afafkes
Because Gwyn-only swap means Hildwin swappers get NO benefit at all
even then, the Gwyn holder is like ancient players
someone typod the guide 💔
and does not benefit any one except Gwyn holders themselves
There are older comps that still work like Randle Ivan 1 team, Rem another, players should try to be resourceful when they don't got everything guides says
Yeah bro that’s what I put up
Did u read my text?
Those of us old folks back then, even opted with full GB teams and waiting out more levels, using Grezhul of all things
Then you go for other heroes, is that hard to figure out?

The multi also suggests team 3 you just skip Rem and go for the team 3 carry and stuff, or just wait out Elthara copy or something
No I mean
I’m just asking for some advices on what I should do
Need to hear some new ideas
New hero release doesn't make older teams stop working
Grez was on the short list of best 4f in the game for a LONG time
shalltear works up to 31 at least from hearsay, rem works up to 40 at least from what ive seen on my server, built celehypo/ built awaken at M
Rem... Works at ch66+
you need specific setup but she can still have her place because of support
where does she fall off as main carry
can anyone help me?
which heroes i can use to beat this monster, i only know shemira atm but she is only mythic and dies fast😭😭🙈
Probably before 40? Her damage doesn't keep up, but if you use Daemia with her she can extend her carry power for a while
I’m at chapter 31
think this was use phys dmg? or smth
The problem though, Daemia is usually reserved for Belinda if anyone still bothers building her by this point
Btw
Should I pull for wilders hero on the faction wish?
For gorok
I still don’t have him
ahhh, last time was magic damage - now phys damage? 😓
The =wishlist outlines the top recommended build priority heroes of each faction
im not too sure i just auto that boss with randle i think?
Not in the specific order of course
okey i will try it thanks 🙈
No Zohra and Fawkes work still, still magical
Also technically Randle is magical because he int hero
ah
ohh i dont have fawkes or zohra 😓
and randle didnt worked.. hmm

What you look for is AOE spellcasters to kill minions or something
OHH ON 2TH try it worked with randle haha 🙈
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DopeyAClue

Bud I think you have a problem
myu rakuhmms almost as much as hat says "wow"
U know myu was reported as a bot farm back then
Myu the farmer
i think my account is cursed
idk why i always pull the same heroes, only 1 randle in like 800 sum just wtf
i got 2 awakned on pull and only 1 randle xD
That's blessing in disguise, it means you can ascend heroes way faster thanks to pulling dupes and dupes
Then you just easily fix it with grit later
i have few heroes anyway, only drop white heroes just wtf
.
😔
Am using both randle n afawkes and can't get past the 40 floor (2nd Astral devourer)
Am I doing anything wrong
Retried alot of times alr
Well is boss actually taking damage? You can actually grind it down
Are 20 dragonspeak emblems + 100 core worth 5k Dias?
What is this special deal, store?

=garrison
What is Garrison?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256
=guide
8 copies of heroes is M+ ?
@tepid raft NC check
Unass yourself
Not at all
Try again with higher trait level or something, maybe it's just a power thing, or you could look at replay to see why your damage dealers are not doing damage
Is there a cheatsheet or checklist for dailies? Wanna make sure I'm not missing anything, since I feel like I'm limited solely by dupes now.
Or something similar for diamond sources? I haven't done a lot of PoT so I know that's there, and I think you can convert GG relics into diamonds?
(Currently at Chapter 34)
Cheatsheet for dailies?
Yes you can sell collections you no longer want for 100 diamond each to save room
Moreso checklist for stuff that refreshes daily. Stuff like the Daily quests, Guild hunts, or events
You pretty much nailed all of them already
Darn. Also, how much does Gear Resonance matter?
I'm currently at 56/60 M items to unlock it, but I've just been afking for more M gear via AFK rewards and dim gear in the Guild Store. Is it worth unlocking right away? Or just keep afking for it?
Gear resonance means you now don't have to upgrade gear for everyone and everyone comes with T2 maxed by default, if you finish it
You have no reason to rush it, it just comes with playing enough because the number depends on how many stones you've already used to upgrade
Like, don't ever buy T3 stones in store just because it will speed up resonance
Keep playing, keep building heroes, keep upgrading gear for heroes you use the most, eventually it just unlocks
T2 maxed is pretty cool, that would be a substantial boost to my lower tier characters. Okay, I'll just passively unlock and upgrade it. Thanks for the info
Alucius and levi team in ts works without gavus? Or gavus is bis and no alt?
Dracolite chest on test has new dragon nice
Velu works too, you just need someone to give enough DR early so uwucius can cast once
Very nice rewards
Gavus is bis because he reduces by 90% for just long enough
New skin for lucilla is mid
For velu you would probably need aurelia though to speed up uwucius because you have less time
Skri and Selene sub him
They’re not as good but good enough
Shuna also very good there
I don't even see either of these events. I haven't seen any wardrobe skins mentioned since I started playing again a few months ago
There havent been any new skins in a few months
It’s on test server
Wts we just had a Rosa skin
Or maybe it was months ago
new woke pet soon 
Both of these were possibilities I considered.
Surely I could get the skin as a F2P (despite not even having a single dupe of Lucilla)
Wait I thought that was April fools
check the guild chat 
4 times awakned hero and 0 randle gg wtf is this
This should be a good thing 
Is new woke pet good


What new woke pet
dragonforge trial shop. debating passing up the 10 scrolls for 120 to get as many emblems as i can
that is my choke point right now for building begris
Its not crazy. It really is just a question: Would you spend 5000 diamonds on those emblems given the chance
i think i would, 20 extra per month will really improve my ability to build draconics
and 100 cores is a nice little bonus i suppose
mtfk new VoW is a t/yapper
what the hell does that even mean 
1 big reward, 10 small rewards. for each small reward, you need to go through angelo yapping bout lore.. which if you're like me and cbf, you tap to skip.. roughly 10-15x per small reward.
theres a few endings , so you have to go through all the yapping/tapping if you want it all
BUT... if you just want the rewards, REMEMBER TO STOP TAPPING when the portal spawns. if you misclick and tap the portal, you gonna miss the reward for that part of the lore. then you gotta restart that whole yapper shit again
What is bud yappin about 
wait, who yapped? i saw only roxta chats here
The new vow have a lot of talking and literally no battle, so I just use auto clicker to skip all of them
angelo
Gottta love using L MP totem and not getting any MP at all the whole run
Welcome to my world
i get more MP on triple blue runs than triple leggo with MP totem
I did something like 7 straight MW + LV + MP runs and got maybe 1 mp across all runs
Did a triple blue after and got 2 mp

Wasn’t even worth carding without the level or Mw
You take whatever you need the most, one trap people tend to step into all the time is being too clingy on 'efficient trades' and missing the point
Anyone around with pets unlocked on a test server account?

Bro is still online
Fr
Shes in Australia
What pet?
I just want to know if the monthly exchange and deals refreshed for bunny as normal
Since bunny's ship is gone and there's apparently a new woke pet in two weeks
Which is mid cycle for the pet exchange
@velvet jetty Guess what
Chicken butt? 

The stare of doom
The stare of death evil god explosion destruction
Lies
@timber cedar I think you were asking for how to kill rift boss try simona

Surprisingly she’s really good
This?
ya that was what I was looking for
I assume the deals are still there too then
guess we'll see what happens in 14 days when a new woke pet appears
D.O.O.M.
Yes the deals are also there
Am i tripping? Another wilder?
What wilder
passed it already. apparently ashem helps alot
icic
Hey all, question about lab coins and beginner spending priorities. Is Joan still up there for priority, or should that be different now? All I can think of is that Joan as priority after Dim exchange is to unlock Dim stones. Thanks for your input.
Yeah. It doesnt really matter who, none are good
but you want to get the store to start stocking dimblems
Cool, thanks, will unlock the emblems then
But do make sure to save for exchange
hahahahahhahahahahaha
for coins do i spend on purp hair garrison girl first, then dracula, then shuna?
No, make sure you save for dracula. Thats the most important thing
since she is time limited
oops…
after dracula then do i garrison for shuna/purphair girl
yeah
What's this
67
Oh 🤣
how many years till ch 67 😭✌️
many
Like 2-3
At rc 450 you get power capped around ch51 or 52
And the power cap increase is fucking insane so like you need to be roughly rc 600 to reach ch67

@devout ibex w meme
which pet is better at 27 pony or carrots for general rgm progression
my dps is capped at 100, and ive pulled at least 300 times at the tavern and no ivan or randle yet. now what?
this okay ?
=guide
could just restart on a new server and see how your luck is there assuming youve only played today
😭😭 this is a restart
and i have liberta 😭 ch9 was already such a grind
im so sad
eh ur right its 2 days of work only
whenever i make alts i just reroll till i get a woke that isnt ezizh
when does new server release
idk it takes a while ever since they did companions
this is a s1191 account, should i also restart on s1191?
idk what you mean by that i dont think you can have 2 servers for the same lilith acc
its quite late for me im only here in case someone answers me ab the beasts lol
oh, so i should go to an older server?
as long as its the next oldest i dont think the difference will be that extreme
Where
right there
Diamond priorities pls
=diamond

=diamondpriorities
Have to be ch51
=diamonds
Diamond Priorities:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1139293511695482972
thanks was tryna help the other dude @rapid plaza
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When Does X Unlock?
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You can save 800 reds and maybe furnitures
wondra is 4015e6x, zoh 309e6x


fawk bigger than zoh 4016e6x
What does buffer here means
makes you take less health loss damage
which is called erosion btw
the skill that boosts it is called erosion
sip sip
if i refresh lab store like this does it reset the buying limit ?
Yes it does
Buying limit as in the 0/3 and stuff daily? No you must wait for the next daily reset to refill 3/3
which coin is more valuable? chall or lab or?
it's lab store, no daily resets
for example if i buy a legendary totem and then spend 1k diamonds to refresh the store, can I buy the totem again or do I still have to wait 17 days
Ah yes if you want to spam totem and got the coins, just keep dumping diamonds

its acc, and hes happy
exactly bud



Manual clear or level sweep arcane lab dismal? For most rewards
Sweep
You actually get more sweeping since you can buy from a second merchant cart
@craggy oak Did you have fun in NC last round 

I mean I did hit t50 
Pls let wath be fraudulent 
cant wait for Watha being move to yet another NC round
a big F u for all those haters
Her burst is still unequalled 
Hi peeps
would it be worth spending a bunch of lab coins on wu kong copies for swap
Whats it at
Na next boss is like only health loss damage
So wath is fraudulent 
Wow new siren sounds so strong
Mia seems to hard counter burst
She basically takes that hero and makes it completely dogshit
I kinda want to do velu 40 tho 
sirens usually sound strong JD, it ensures that they can be heard over music, conversations, and traffic, allowing drivers and pedestrians to hear them from far away and safely make way. They are designed to cut through closed car windows and overcome high ambient noise, ensuring immediate attention to safely navigate through traffic, particularly at intersections.

Hopefully she isn’t too strong, I really wanna do velu 40 
Finally progress in campaign
Hey what hero swap would you consider for my account? Is it worth it to swap any of my awakens? Or dragonlites? Maybe lucilla for some cele/hypo?

When is update coming to main serv
chewsdays
Oh yum
Next boss shall see Sion become replaced 
Basically with the new draggo girl = 15s
With Sion = 30s
Wtf really
Nope
but it will be interesting food for thought
I was about to say that’s too op 
How else do they keep pooshing you to build new heroes?
Fun fact, friend built Icariel SI40 and so far she's actually eating pretty good in TS
alvida 40 only 4% increase sadge
Ye it’s pretty well known ica is a viable skylan sub
This bad debuff for her
oh phew okay
yeah theyre all 60%+ i guess that makes sense after reading the debuff
If you get horse to 27 it's probably 35% increase 
i have the resources to do it 
but ive been reading that bunny is a better move
Wait for new woke pet
true
Dont worry bout it lol
didn't have the budget for lysander
Did you really expect great things out of unengraved Leviathan 
No

Don't worry not doing so hot either
Why is ur maetria in seal 
rbsg
Part of dark tech strat to somehow get higher rank than deserved
we ain't got the budget for knox and fawkes round here gotta use mae and hildwin
lowkey seal doing better then I excepted
4 maxed tree is not enough, I want the last one also maxed
Might also because gorren is in execute range immediately
Hellloo
Don't you just enjoy the meta of Ody shortage crisis 
Good boss design, it pushes your hero pool or social networking skills to the limit
Whale
Oh my gosh Ish is back
Just visiting
Seems like R8 is starting to surpass R7
it’s bad out here
Nah you just gotta outsmart the rest, seems like many R8 are still dumbo even at top 200 range
People with Ody hitting 20s smh
Complacent fools
How do I kill this guy
In this case, selenite, lavatune or another???
Hi
Who
Herro minasan
Hows it going
Struggling. Need 2k
Me too
:((
Him
Did you raise trait enhancer
Use mage characters
lava for NC, finish alna for TS first though. make sure to SI40 your aurelia also
i am kingfisher 
Aurelia S40 before afawkens? Thx!
in the pins
Guys whete did misty valley go
Tomorrow will return
Damn i forgot if i completed it or no 
Lets gooooo finally got this bitch
Nice
i remplace randle for her or no ?

omgg its you
I should change my name
I’ve legit never seen some of these frames b4

i have the 4th frame onyl sadly
sadly 
its my only frame too
😭
well one of two
Idk how i got the other one
nice
=guide
Tf
Where is this event at
Did i miss something
its the one where u had to combine stuff
It's on test. Fishing season opens for the rest of us in a week

Ahh okay
Weird lookin frame u got there roxsta
kingfisher frame
do you get anything from ascending past 1 star?
very very cool
Just stats
you get a tiny amount of base stats, but if you have engravings you get a specific stat boost, depending on the hero
for some heroes it’s a very good stat, which makes it worth doing

1(n)o4

1 No 4
I still dont understand why i cant dmg boss in temporal rift
better ?
need aoe magic damage to push the orbs back
read the boss skills for better explanation
Who would be good for that?
dae, zohra, elthara

Depends
On the chapter and whats your box rn
Can Stability regen on its own or do I have to restart
restart
Thanks
@cloud pollen kisaka chan... you gonna rage
Hehe best function ever
Isn’t that useful 
doubt that's making it into the official update

I was on test server when it first updated and that spot was not there for dragons so it must have been added or some late bug
Cause its there now for me also
they hotfixed some shit earlier
Ik but its still there
Can you put dragon in both sides
Hopefully it stays on
Ohh
Well putting this in advanced server but no normal one would get the devs killed ngl
For everyone without dgwyn its kinda irrelevant unfortunately
I have a friend who just got back to the game, she has AwBelinda fully built, does she just swap for AwFawkes?
How does stability amplifier work
Temporal rift
gives you more max stability
I meant the restarting thing
u have to restart if you're on 0 stability
Isn't that lowk kinda not thatgood
trait enhancer is way better yea, until level 50 at least
but yh leveling trait enhancer is always higher prio
@subtle bay =compvsclassic
Classic: Heroes have furniture, engravings and signiture items. Artifacts and ghoulish gallery collections exist. RGMs (resource generating/ranked gamemode) are the main focus. Can reach ch 32 in a week with optimal playing (f2p). Leveling up is generally faster; more p2w however and can be overwhelming due to it existing for 6 years prior to companions.
Companions: A lighter version based on 2019-2020 style AFK Arena with a lot of differences to classic. No furniture, no engravings, no artifacts and no ghoulish gallery. Here stars give the effects of furni and engravings and unlike classic where heroes only need 1 star (unlocks engraving), here most heroes will need to be at 5 stars. Less p2w as there is only one RGM (Twisted Realm). Campaign and leveling are slower, but they are the main gamemode. Signiture item materials are harder to get than classic, but overall less hassle than classic as it’s way more simplified
Yay or nay
is this real?
i need answers bud
Yip. Legit
daamn they actually did it
Got a sudden hotfix an hour ago. Was pretty big for a hotfix as well
No Hildwin though
cringe asf
No elth, ody as well
dont worry about it, just wanted to see
its nice they did this but no hild is kinda cheeks
till next year i guess
It's fair
Helps both f2p and p2w fix their hb lineups
Without giving away anything substantial
Yeah it’s useless for 99% of the player base
idk the only one you would swap away is hae
Hae or gwyn actually
btw id swap to levi tbh
Ah yes. Was just kidding there 
Is it worth to pull a copy of kae to swap my gwyn? Surely right?

Ig I’ll swap to wawkes then 
games gone

i mean first you have to see if you can swap kae so you would have to get a copy
Hes 2025 hero
but i have to dip so i'll catch up later
A reddit post said no kae
Just confirmed. Kae not swappable
This is legit useless cuz you can’t even swap to elthara for most new people even if hildwin is involved
Cuz swapping for a m skylan feels like shit
Its to fix the hb lineups, not to get a free hb
@pallid knoll are you on test?
kae not being here must mean elthara isn't here either right
Yep
Ye. No elth, kae,.oddy
ok that makes it less bad
King what?
Those who invested in those still have an advantage
cuz most of the people who would benefit from this already have levi, lan, skylan built
If hildwin isn't add, is it worth to trade haelia for skylan. I feel like trading Eugene for a better awaken sounds better to do.
Where do u get the test server, how does that work
Depends on the rest of your roster really.
If you dont have a core woke like afawkes yet, then definitely thats better
Is tbat H name highborn girl even used
en passant team in ts
and that's it I think
So hae? Now its almost as bad as no hb swap
Guess ill swap dgwyn for lan
@pallid knoll Yeah I dont have fawkes so that was my original plan unless draconic swaps were a thing. Too bad the draconis swaps are still bad.
Gwyn Lan Sky Hae Levi
Ill swap lib for aure
did you not already build lan 💀
Obviously not
I have all of them
except hae wich is no improvement
The hb swap seems to be mostly to fix hb rosters, and not to get a free one out of the event
Its either lan or hae
I would like to swap a dragonlite rather than get a shit highborn for another shit highborn
Ur lan is gonna be too overbuilt
How can you make something good and destroy it at the same time
Or eugene to zorha
Ngl you should have reset engraving on dgywn a few months back
They add highborn swap and i still have no possibility to improve my acc gg
I was using here back then
Rox how the heck do u get millions in fishing lol
Just build fawkes then
Best case scenario she’s faded out of existence after this nc cycle
Who had the idea to make fafkes swapable but not kae🤓 block fafkes to pls
Will awakened skirath be included in swap
Yes
My mauler towers ass
He’s cr only hero tho so like
Every 2025 hero exept kaelon apparently 
10k diamonds if no swap at end of event
$3 and 11.2k diamonds
Real
we should block w fafkes too cuz it would lead to good trades
Na you don’t understand people gonna build wawkes anyways
Slept while on auto battle
But kae is like on the edge of relevancy
Wich is worth like? Nothing? Id rather swap my thoran to asaf for 1 extra star
What awakeneds you missing
And you kinda have to build oddy next to stay relevant in nc 
Brutus, solise, ezixh, thalene, thane
But i get that we cant swap for elthara or oddy but they couldve given us kae
Do brutus for tower
🤡
Im doing skirath
Yeah cuz kae unbricks you too hard 
Swapping fafkes unbricks ppl too
But you would build him eventually
I have 5*🤷♂️ 
I think Lilith realized blocking wawkes doesn’t really matter
Cuz people gonna build him next anyways
Blocking kae doesnt make any sense? No one who cant swap him will build him? They dont get money from excluding him
But kae is like 5th best hb behind 4 other must builds so he unbricks u too hard
But it’s Lilith so idk
Go ask bear
Not even r1 ppl have 5 hbs build if f2p
Maybe she has an answer
I dont care enough to annoy theyre employees more they got enough hate
I’m actually glad no hilbilly swap
Cuz im like 5 months behind on hilbilly from bad guild 
Thats reasonable aswell cuz that would be gifting free hb
If they backpedal some more
I’ll prob just build wawkes next and swap hilbilly to someone ig
If they don’t backpedal some more ima just swap wath to wawkes and build asaf/mae next depending on nc
I dont even want hildwin swap i want kae



Who should I si30 first fawkes or knox?
fawkes, keep knox at si20
Awesome thank you!
Until you can make 40
ye
fuck I'm cooked. HB swap, but no Hildwin
RGM power gap gonna rise now since all the ppl that had their big Gwyn's can cash them out for useful HBs
sadge indeed
Dont think there will be hb swap
I was really hoping they didn't even do the swap at this point, I knew they'd make it so Hildwin wouldn't be an option
they hotfixed heroswap
it's confirmed, Lilith actually responded to the feedback
Theres no good hb to swap, they keep kae elth and oddy
it's still close to april first
Damn
nice
we pray it's a late april fools joke
Cooked
tho i'll still do eugene for fawkes
yuh but big DGwyn scrubs are gonna start getting chunky Skylans now, which is gonna make TS even worse in my region
The way they did it is joke enough buddy
isnt it like a scroll so we can use it later too?
everyone who has dgwyn has him to no?
well at least old whales can't just insta 5036100 their eltharas by swapping dgwyn away
they don't get much of an advantage over people who already have lan skylan and levi built
a surprising amount of ppl don't have him
me included, but I don't have Gwyn ascended either 
could have been way worse ngl
Free haelia ig🤓 shes useless too tho
Hmmmm
They might receive enough bad feedback again to change it another time
Whats skirath awakened minimum investment
I'm probably gonna have to whale 550 or so DI's to make up for over a year of not buying them
it's my biggest sin in this game
I only started buying them when u mentioned it Benno
40960
si30 if youre poor on resources
so like a month ago
which ones do u buy for di?
i'm talking abt the guild store ones
Okay thanks
oh damn, yeah those are peak
He missed them for over a year
yeah and imagine me as an OG player never buying them until 1 month ago
i was wondering why everyone has 1 more HB than me (talking abt low spenders/f2p)
peak idea
do we know how long the event this tuesday lasts?
like the new dragonic hero and swap
and ofc they make Levy the free hero copy
the one I happen to have built
I hope there's like 20 DIs in there at least
we get 20 di and 20 scrolls
and a free draconic choice chest at the end which is peak
does the cost to refresh lab store increase each time you do it
we get 4 copies of new draconic for free by using drac scrolls right?
like it's 1k for first and second refreshes but does it increase after that
fr
No
good now i wont regret a1ing her
You need to do 200 pulls or smth for all the free copies and 300 for all the free rewards
so that's like 60 euro's for the 4 copies
would be peak if I got the remaining 5 copies during those 200k gems
cuz 1 copy from chest on day 7
i restarted 2d ago and ive pulled 1/2 copies of EVERYONE in my wishlist except for ivan and randle. should i restart? i even got liberta 1 copy
have made 400 summons
When does vanguard end like roughly when do the battles end
tbh it was a bad idea to even put hb into hero swap
it makes em too much money they should have just made regular dracos swappable
Just realised I can't even buy the gems, cuz where am I gon get 200k gems from
should i restartttt no ivan no randle
God has his favorites, giving Selene to others 😢
lol selene and liberta but i havent got ivan or randle

goated
=restarting
god
selene can prob carry till you can get randle and ivan idk
thank u selene glazer
you can take ivan from hero choice chest if you really need to
it unlocks when you finish ch12
is this my most optimal 5 for now cuz im struggling
use mira instead of rowan prob
okok
gorren can also work instead of eorin
Holy luck
hes just E tho cant get him above 100, im working in ascending fodder rn
No
You dont deserve any luck
i wish you pitty on every single pull
I deserve luck tho right
Yes you can have his luck on top of yours
thanks 
is the new hb being used on test
So elth swappable?
another hotfix?
no, kae oddy elth unswappable
Hello I want to start climbing fraction tower I need some tips
we need a tower guide tbh
How am I supposed to climb with these🥹
lb tower : alvida
mauler tower : hopes and dreams
gb tower : top 5 highest cmbr
wilder tower : top 5 highest cmbr + seal
there we go
Hahahahaha hopes and dreams
none of what you got can get you very far
wheres our good friday code
Yes + stall
Okay smart guy everyone stuck at 2-3 teams nobody cares about 1
tower guide: copy popular formations and if you don’t have the heroes you have to be creative and skilled 👍
Obviously
if you know wgat ur doing
New players complaining too much
What the heck
Am coming for your spot as best camp player bud
Howd u pull so many randall? 🧐
Still though, not a guarantee to get him
Idk luck
never the less...still nice 😄 gz
Avg box for ch31
who is that dim? wheni played in a previous life she wasnt a thing 😄
Lol what is pity on awk pets?
So big?

=todolist
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia
(look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible - Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan
+ Randle
or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest. - AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara
. She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS. - Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
who should i gaze first
Knox
coul dyou explain why he is good?
cuz he can solo carry and he is good in other modes aswell + he is used until lategame he doesnt really falls off
im using rem rn but i should use him as the carry once i build him a little?
oh nvm he is a support
guuuuys, can you help me? 😓
is this a good wishlist for furniture rn? 🙈
you need more than 1 team later on
i got a copy first summon lit
=furn
thank you 🙈
should i keep him gazed until 8 copies?
swap rem and shaltear if you keep garrison her instead
until a1, no need to save copies here you can ascend him, same for other celestials and hypos
first 10x has guaranteed copy
THANK YOU 🙈
ah ok
Why ruin it for him xD
im sory hahaha
Let him think he got lucky
lol

=colls

Lilith just hit my last straw. The dragon swap would be appreciated… if it wasn’t structured in a way that benefitted my competition but not me…
I’m out. Shit game for far too long now.
yea theyve made it worse
It all sucks.
Hii
If you haven't received a copy of it yet, you should get it.
How does it work?
Anyone except the newest HB can be swapped except Hildwin. So if you decided to build Gwyn, now is your time to overtake all your competition for absolutely free if they decided not to build her, basically punishing those who made a good decision.
thats not rly true
Ah
It’s very true. My RGMs are gunna drop from this, no doubt.
I still don’t have a swap target. The rest of the HB are kinda essential, Gwyn is the only one worth swapping on the entire list…
It may be possible for my to swap oddy to elth
No.
most ppl have levi lan and skylan, atleast those who have dgwyn, and healia is not much better than gwyn
cuz only ppl in older regions even have dgwyn
And when they are my direct competition now, what’s gunna happen when they swap from those heroes to something better? Won’t they just disengage as my competition and be launched higher in rank than I’ll get from the swap, cause I’m getting nothing from it. Lol
Old you say.
there is nothing better available thats the point, also if thats the case you can just compete with them bcs 1/4 of theyre resources is locked
Because I made “better decisions”
didnt say all in old regions have her, i said the only one that build her are older players or whales
it was pretty clear hb swap would come at some point, same as woke swap
=colls
they should include all 2025 heroes tho, also dragonlite and elthara/kaelon
I’m fine with it, if it benefitted everyone equally. Add in Hildwin. If people’s bad decisions get fixed, people should also be rewarded for their good decisions. Not punished.
ok thanks
welp i dont receive anything from this shit swap but yk its whatever, either lilith gonna change it again or they might lose tons of players
I’m out, already done. I cannot do it anymore. This was a slap in the face for all the time spent building up on account. I’m not loosing score in RGMs cause Lilith wants to reward those who made bad decisions but punish those who played slow and smart.
you should wait for it to release if they fix theyre aniversary
I somehow doubt they will…
its a week of waiting if they dont fix it you can still quit
Meh what’s a week. I’ve played for 6 years now…
Still no Hildwin, not as bad as I thought but yeah, big FU to new players without Gwyn, the rest didn't need to compete
Well I guess no Elthara is not as bad as it first looks
no elthara no oddy and no kaelon... its useless
Change of plans, 5* Leviathan instead
Letting people behind instantly catch up with massive current meta boost would wreck the competition, this one people can still get Skylan but it's not that bad
it also doesnt benefit smart players at all anymore
I still don't think any should have been swappable though, especially NOT Hildwin
i agree no hildwin but i wouldve liked to get kaelon, idk if its even worth swapping gwyn for haelia
Nope, Kaelon means that extra 2s boost in NC and massive advantage in CR, allowing it would fuck over people who got him at less than that
They should have just done no swap tbh. This is even worse 
haelia has a use in some ts they should lock her too hahaha
I still need to swap my engine for afawkes anyways 
Problem is many of the Gwyn enjoyers actually did spend for her
Let them keep it then
If there was a way to differenciate those F2P Gwyn builders and spender Gwyn builders, I would totally implement the anti F2P barrier
I think there shouldn't even be swap allowed in general all players should keep the heroes they built
Yes that's the best one, not sure why Lilith actually gave in to these barking dogs
Can’t swap fawk
You CHOSE to build Gwyn for your AE advantage and ranking, you got what you want, why can't you be happy with your decisions
Yes u can
That being said, Probably Gwyn -> Leviathan and getting a massive one in return
Yeah also it did have a huge advantage in all CR,NC,TS for awhile
For mini though unaffected so I will continue with Zohra probably
I'm sorry proxy I respect you and your skills but even you are being entitled
Nuh uh
No Pippa is reasonable because her ship just gone for like a week or so, Fawkes would riot, friend wants him
proof
Trust me
U nub he released 2025 
just got ivan and randle, question about resonating crystal, since dps needs to be 20-40levels higher than the team, randle wont be on the crystal?
Demote stinky CS 
20-40 levels higher is when you have them ascended for now level fodders and put hero’s you use on rc =guide
When you get one A hero you unlock
okok thanks
They're still around but less talked about because 4F releases are so slow now
cs i think u used to help me back when i was ch31 in 2023
I wasn’t here back then
ah

Unc @solar fractal
Lib
He’s ass at one copy
Most celepo and wokes are bad at one copy never use
ur not a cs yet either
And never will be
Not following =earlycamp ?
Oh hahahaha
yoo loler
I still expected Ivan Randle guess not
i remember u from back then unc
yea
i miss my ivan daimon meta
what the ivan is broken
ive missed u my glorious king 😭😭😭😭😭
i remember u too
sup unc how u been
Good, how about you. You are unc too then 
Unc days are the 5 pull and Lucretia carry teams
And when Rowan SI30 was first prio xD
bruh i cant talk with 2 accounts in the server cuz i only got 1 phone number
so lame
nahhh im a youngin
should i garrison shaltear or shuna?
rem because shes hot
=guide
Guides recommended Shalltear first, pick based on your actual usage, Shuna is a very incredible support/counter, Shalltear is a stalling tank
@cloud pollen can we have your thoughts on the new swap?
Look at suggestions 

