classic-questions

[shy crescent]

I merc KFC constantly. seems like an undervalued woke

nmainly for TR

[slow relic]

CR you mean?

[shy crescent]

No I don't give af about CR yet

[slow relic]

hahaha indeed true

[shy crescent]

legend 85% or some crap

[slow relic]

idk man, isn't aLuc only working on TS with KFC or Gravus?

[hexed mulch]

nah you can run usual comp until you unlock two teams, in which case one team can be your usual and the second can be lysander in the backrow with knox in the front

[slow relic]

exepect fountain buff ofc.

[river shuttle]

Levi

[shy crescent]

I dont have lucius. I see him on reddit TS teams constantly though

[slow relic]

i think i haven't even see aLuc that much on CR anymore...

[river shuttle]

He only works with levi for ts and theres one debuff where it doesn work… frost? Idk the one with no shields

[river shuttle]

Expensive team tho

[slow relic]

yeah, but isn't KFC a great sub/even better than gravus or something?

yeah, considering i have no gravus OR kfc for this team, i would prefer swapping KFC over aLuc at this point i think

[shy crescent]

i am not a source, just copy pasting but I see this:

[slow relic]

haha

new hbd is the better aLuc now, perfect

[river shuttle]

No

[shy crescent]

got to get that spending game up

[river shuttle]

Hes used in other modes/teams

[slow relic]

i see

i will be one of the few ppl doing 40960 KFC :cope:

[cobalt abyss]

yes kfc is a sub for gavus in aluci team but just an ok sub

[river shuttle]

What wokes do you have tho?

[slow relic]

uhm, don't wanna open my phone right now, but bascily a lot, just aluc or kfc is possible for me to swap

[river shuttle]

Do you have a bad one to swap?

[slow relic]

Mauler tower will be happy too, i will have another woke other than asaf for this kekW

[harsh acorn]

Rumil alive :D

[slow relic]

will do it with Eugene

[slow relic]

yeah, most exames are done. still need to do one last presentation and i am done lol
presentation is in like the next 4 weeks

[river shuttle]

I forgot he exists cant swap woke anyway

[slow relic]

you are not alone on this haha

[shy crescent]

just about freaked out. Heard something moving around upstairs, look to my right both dogs are there. Wife turned roomba on without telling me

[harsh acorn]

You’ve got this! Good luck haha

[slow relic]

i have him M+
so if i go hard on him, i might be able to get 3 whole copys in the next 35/36 days

[blazing garnet]

hi guys, who should i swap my eiron for?

[shy crescent]

ivan prolly

[river shuttle]

I have him m with 5 copies in bag but i dont have a woke to swap to😆

[slow relic]

i see lol
i never know what ppl with a lot of guild coins even do other than going dim gear... but with the number of releases we have this might be needed anyway lol
Or i guess just 5 star hildwin+ eugene or something lol

[blazing garnet]

alr tyy

[river shuttle]

Yep

[shy crescent]

Mutliple people have told me they are just stockpiling extra hildy pieces for no reason

in case hb swap i guess

[slow relic]

oh tbf. i could also get Gravus as a woke, but i am very certain KFC is worth more xD

[slow relic]

i did aswell 😄 i have enough to get him up to M+ haha

[shy crescent]

yeah, not much else to do. stockpile dim gear seems dumb

[cobalt abyss]

You are correct

Askri is the way to go

[summer bough]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[river shuttle]

Gavus completely useless outside of levi aluc

[river shuttle]

My problem is i have all the niche ones to im just missing brutus, solise, thane, thalene and ezizh

[slow relic]

bro get thane, we belive in another comeback for a NC boss :cope:

[river shuttle]

Nuh uh

[slow relic]

i still think it is crazy i have 3 wilder and GB wokes, but only 1 mauler woke (asaf) xD

i swear tower is hell with only 1 woke xD

[shy crescent]

i am about to have three gb wokes and not a single mauler woke

Mauler struggles

[tepid raft]

Hi peeps

[slow relic]

i am at least having a aBel for light tower. With pirate girl i have a 3rd good running team.
But mauler is just disaster all around xD
I am running the most whanky compy ever just ever while other ppl either use KFC or aanty

[slow relic]

sounds about right xD

like if it keeps going like this i see cele and hypo tower passing by my mauler tower

[shy crescent]

hyp is the only tower i am hard capped in other than kings tower. knox too strong

[slow relic]

yeah, technically you can keep doing it as long as you are patient and get the teams to work ever so often

but at some point you might be lazy 👀 and be like "ah i will push towers when i need something again" xD

like for example 630 TE for 12 Pippa copys ya know

[neon sparrow]

[half lava]

Why is now robin?

[slow relic]

just normal woke rates ya know

[shy crescent]

completely normal

[neon sparrow]

Robin?

[shy crescent]

i got really lucky on whoran, every other hero i have puleld has been average or worse i feel

[slow relic]

Hood. Robin Hood

[neon sparrow]

Why Robin what?

[slow relic]

on Guide

[shy crescent]

Typical Knox team for hyp tower

[slow relic]

he even answered to it by linking to it

[half lava]

Yea I mean why in Labyrinth store is Robin Hood in guide when as I remember there was Joanne before

He got buffed?

[shy crescent]

they both suck

you just want one of them to get the dim shards that replace them

[slow relic]

bro, put the other hypos in your crystal aswell, you can push like another 20 stages with the increased CMBR

[neon sparrow]

Neither is useful. You’re just doing it to unlock the dimblems

[half lava]

Ah

[shy crescent]

I do periodically. I just dont have enoguh spots for every tower like that

i have to put them in and then remove because i only have like 3 extras reso spots rn

[slow relic]

oh yeah, early account problems i remember.
i even used gems to free up like 20 extra slots or something lol

[shy crescent]

i have considered it, but they are not cheap

[neon sparrow]

Running out of reso spots, the horror

[half lava]

And btw lilith is going to add new highborn draconic, does she is worth of keeping Insignias or no?

[slow relic]

yeah my next slot cost 1600 gems

[neon sparrow]

Always hold

[tepid totem]

@half lavahowd u know

[half lava]

They leaked

You didnt saw on Facebook?

[peak brook]

evil time

[autumn gull]

i always have all the heroes i don’t use daily out of RC, and slot them in when i use for tower / rift

helps to keep some slot management

[slow relic]

share

[half lava]

https://tenor.com/view/they-dont-love-you-like-i-love-you-dog-gif-12858916681645605905

[peak brook]

At one point when your acc is old enough, you'll have more slots than heroes

[slow relic]

it just took me 3 years.

[tepid totem]

@half lavawhere

[peak brook]

yeah around that I'd say

[peak brook]

isn't it just a regular draconis

[tepid totem]

thats regular draco not hb

[slow relic]

this is normal dragonic

[half lava]

Oh okay

Cool then bc I can still trying to gamba my pretty girl Elthara

[slow relic]

for 1 copy yes, anything byond you should hold until you have like 800 DI

[shy crescent]

I feel that. I get playable heroes just as fast as reso spots I feel like

[peak brook]

Cool thing is that first slots aren't too pricey to open if ever, but yeah, sometimes they just make a lot of good heroes following each other and it's a pain

[shy crescent]

is M30 levi or SI30 Begris more impactful for NC and TS?

I know begris has no TS use essemntially just curious if levi 30 would be used in ts

[jaunty tapir]

How do I get past LvL 20 on Temporal rift? I just get rekt doing it

[peak brook]

I remember Levi being usable at M for some time but I'm unsure if that's still the case

[peak brook]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994913587116126269

[peak brook]

there's plenty of stuff in here for you to understand, see teams etc

[shy crescent]

you need to destroy the orbs and they die to aoe magic dmg

[shy crescent]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1nfooa9/temporal_rift_lvl_20_unbeatable_boss/

[jaunty tapir]

Ah i doubt I have the units for this then 🙁

[shy crescent]

beckoning palace

[peak brook]

if you're new to the game don't worry, rift is open for plenty of time so you'll have many occasions to progress

[river shuttle]

How is this even a thing

[peak brook]

just collect the rewards daily and upgrade the Trait thingy

[shy crescent]

ashem beats her

[jaunty tapir]

Yeah i'm pretty new, i'm currently 23-46, still not got a single M unit yet lol

[peak brook]

you got this no worries, it's hard to complete for newer players

[shy crescent]

'ridt doesnt close for 3 months, you have time

[signal stream]

I dont believe a word HappyAcc says

[shy crescent]

i would guess afawkes wrecks that boss for quite a while

[peak brook]

You should I'm a cutie patootie

[jaunty tapir]

So should I just wait for a while and come back to it some other time then? or should I show my roster for this?

[shy crescent]

find somebody in your tsage of the game that cleared it and see what they did

[peak brook]

Even if you don't fight for a while, just collect the stuff daily so you can upgrade your beacons

you get a LOT of stats from those

[shy crescent]

yeah

[jaunty tapir]

Yeah I upgraded the "Trait Enhancer" and my power flew up

[peak brook]

yeah, keep doing that as much as you can, and hopefully you can build some units in the meantime to come back and progress in there

[shy crescent]

it is pretty hilarious somebody with that box wasnt getting him down

[jaunty tapir]

Okay nice, thank you for the advice

[shy crescent]

temporal rift is open for nearly 3 months. there is no giant rush, but when it closes make sure you got as close to 300 as you could

[dapper gate]

i finally hit 400 last rift

[peak brook]

hit 500 next time

[dapper gate]

on it boss

[peak brook]

[river shuttle]

U literally just need e+ mira or e+ simona for lvl 20

[dapper gate]

zohra team first every time for me just for astral

[jaunty tapir]

I beat him

[shy crescent]

gz

[peak brook]

[dapper gate]

W

[jaunty tapir]

Thanks guys

[shy crescent]

wjat is your zohra team?

i use an ashem team for that boss rn...

ashem, saitama, aurelia and two other randos

[dapper gate]

uhh last rift it was this i think

[peak brook]

evil comp

[shy crescent]

what does that gb do?

[dapper gate]

as long as i didnt change it which is possoble

im going to try these comps this season

[dapper gate]

tbh not sure i just saw her in most of those comps, idk if she needs a certain invest but she worked alright for me

[shy crescent]

i have seen her before too but never built because i had no idea what she did

[barren fjord]

she heals

thats all i know

[dapper gate]

quick look at si20 and skills looks like haste and heals

[shy crescent]

well next time my gb fodder is doubled up i will build her

[warped marten]

Is the new graveborn boy goodm

[dapper gate]

i havent seen him much if at all tbh

[fathom linden]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[solar fractal]

Trash

[prisma carbon]

I was thinking of gritting Sylas to either Naroko or Atheus but idk which any suggestions?

[dapper gate]

is it worth dumping all my pet resources to get 27 pony?

[nova wharf]

Pretty sure levels on bunny are more necessary than on pegasus

U need bunny 27, more lvls on pegasus are nice to have but not needed

[autumn gull]

27 pony also a breakpoint

[drifting hemlock]

Skill = breakpoint

woke in a nutshell

[inner olive]

someone should make this into an image guide

[harsh acorn]

They just need to send it lol. I don’t have image perms here

[inner olive]

you don't ?

idk how that's possible cuz you get image perms when you join the server

[harsh acorn]

Image perms, but not external emoji permissions

[inner olive]

oh right

[cinder flax]

@errant sable I'm going to catch up with you right now 😈

[shy crescent]

you want naroko eventually but he is pretty mid tbh, ts filler and camp filler until you get real heroes at best

[prisma carbon]

So what would you recommend me to do in this situation

[shy crescent]

the best 4f that you dont have at A are jerome and misha but they both 6x

[drifting hemlock]

Vika or Villanelle seems more stonks

[dapper gate]

whats bunny breakpoint? is it also 27?

[inner olive]

W

[shy crescent]

any bad/mid celepog other than flora/wukong that you have more than 1 copy of?

[shy crescent]

nope

[inner olive]

is malkrie used anywhere guys

[drifting hemlock]

supposedly tower

Not sure

[shy crescent]

you did a pretty good job choosing which 4f to invest in, def some swaps that can get you a few copies, but maybe doing what they were talking about earlier and getting a big eorin and then swapping him to like jerome for the resources might be smart if you have enough time

[errant sable]

awesome
ez formations to steal

how much did u spend to get her?

[shy crescent]

how close are you guys to the server stage leader on your servers?

[inner olive]

long way to go

[shy crescent]

i caught up at like chapter 45 or 46

My server still only has 22 peeps that maxed out misty valley

[inner olive]

an toi day cooking ngl

[shy crescent]

my server had a guy that sky rocketed to 46 then just quit. elivio

like sky rocketed so fast it would have been gigantic invest. i swear it is the devs just trying to promote spending

Dude hasn’t played in 6 months probably

[autumn gull]

yes

[autumn gull]

i had a guy when server started that got to ch70 within two weeks and dipped lmao

[drifting hemlock]

What da hell

[shy crescent]

That’s insane. It has to be devs

[inner olive]

you have to be lying

yeah definitely devs testing stuff out

[autumn gull]

we’re a full year further and he’s still #1 in every single thing on the server, even above some of the bigger spenders

[river shuttle]

[shy crescent]

Elons personal assistant got a profile ready in case he wanted to stream a game again

[inner olive]

ch70 in 2 weeks is outright impossible, you would have to spend julius level money on the game for that

[autumn gull]

had insane colls too, like this type of shit

[river shuttle]

Sharky test run😆

[autumn gull]

lmaooo

[inner olive]

dev account

there's simply no way

[autumn gull]

i fucking hope so

[river shuttle]

Is Julius a dev acc to then?

[autumn gull]

didn’t get any dupes in his short lifespan though

[fathom linden]

Hey

[inner olive]

no one in their right mind would spend that much money then quit

[fathom linden]

So I just hit chapter 31
Like it says in the instructions

[inner olive]

nevermind that, no one in their right mind would spend that much money period

[fathom linden]

What do I do now?

[shy crescent]

Make another team and kill shit

[autumn gull]

julius is like a million deep

[fathom linden]

Ok

[inner olive]

i didn't say he was in his right mind

[fathom linden]

Can u help me out making the second team?

[autumn gull]

true

[solar fractal]

Refund exist bud

[autumn gull]

id guess this is a refunded acc

[inner olive]

that would have to be considered fraud or something atp

[solar fractal]

…

[autumn gull]

yea it is fraud but yk you gotta accept it

[inner olive]

refunding that much has to be illegal in some way

[shy crescent]

Look at recommended formations

[inner olive]

funny joke

everybody uses elthara

[solar fractal]

=earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

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[fathom linden]

It says Currently no replays

[wraith fjord]

Ahhh

[inner olive]

why ur fawkes m+

half built woke for what reason

[fathom linden]

Okkkk

[shy crescent]

Wawkes is so good it makes sense to build him when you can I suppose

[autumn gull]

fawned pos5 could help

[inner olive]

pawned

[shy crescent]

Even if another great woke comes out not like you aren’t finishing wawkes

[fathom linden]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[autumn gull]

and gotta give desire RC

[inner olive]

swap event coming for a reason man

[fathom linden]

Any replacement for gorok?

[shy crescent]

Maybe he doesn’t have something to swap for wawkes

[inner olive]

you don't have elthara so you can ignore that team

[fathom linden]

Okay so what do u think I should try to get?

[subtle shuttle]

hi i just started i would like to know where i can find the guides

[shy crescent]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[fathom linden]

For first team
Randle + Ivan + mira + lady simona + Bronn
But for second team?

[subtle shuttle]

and i just did my first pull i found thoran is he good?

[inner olive]

use alvida with mira gorok palmer and some other filler hero

alvida and gorok frontline then mira palmer filler hero backline

[fathom linden]

I don’t have gorok?

[inner olive]

get him

[tepid raft]

@pallid knoll kirk cousins got another bag with the raiders lmao

[inner olive]

do pve gamemodes to get faction scrolls

[fathom linden]

He has been on my Wishlist from the start of the game
And I still can’t get him
I’m so unlucky

[inner olive]

kirk huh ?

[tepid raft]

Nfl

[shy crescent]

i am chapter 51. it has been forever since i was at that point in the game tbh. a gb team and non-gb team makes sense to me but ask somebody with a 3x chapter in their name

[fathom linden]

If I use mira with second team
Who do I put in first team to replace her?

[subtle shuttle]

who do i take here

[inner olive]

brutus

[solar fractal]

Doesn’t matter

[inner olive]

if already using him use gorren

[inner olive]

eorin

[subtle shuttle]

ok thx

[inner olive]

and then you wonder why I say cs don't have early game knowledge

[solar fractal]

Good for you

[dapper gate]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan + Randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[shy crescent]

they both suck balls man

[inner olive]

ye but you pull for wilders after graveborn faction is done so you're bound to get copies of eorin from faction scrolls

crassio is a mauler and that faction is way worse so you shouldn't use faction scrolls on it

[shy crescent]

i never pulled for wilders? Why do you pull wilders? Is gorok that good?

[fathom linden]

I can get gotten to ascended if I get 2 more copies
And Brutus if I get 4 more

[inner olive]

gorok, misha, atheus, tamrus are all high prio 4f heroes

[shy crescent]

i am pretty sure i ended up pulling for lb to catch up on alvida

[inner olive]

4 out of the 5 heroes on the wilder wishlist are either really important or just important

[rapid plaza]

Am I doing good?

[solar fractal]

Just follow the =guide and you’ll be good

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[solar fractal]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan + Randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[subtle shuttle]

so i keep pulling even my diamonds

[inner olive]

ye

[rapid plaza]

Is there anyway to get hero exp and magic dust other than campaign?

[subtle shuttle]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[shy crescent]

kings tower

for dust at least. great soruce early game

[inner olive]

kt don't give much dust, faction towers are the main dust givers

kt does give a ton of gold though

[shy crescent]

depends where he is. if he is chapter 5 then it gives a ton of dust

[rapid plaza]

I already climbed as much as i could

[inner olive]

fair

[rapid plaza]

I am at KT floor 200 and campaign chapter 16

[inner olive]

oh and you can play pot to get dust

[shy crescent]

if you are maxing yoru minigames out and doing labyrinth and stuff it is just a timegate

[rapid plaza]

What about hero exp I seem to never get enough

Mini game? U mean candy crush?

[shy crescent]

all of them. max them all

[inner olive]

dw very soon you'll have a ton of it

[rapid plaza]

Should I use my the stuff in my bag or hog it?

[rapid plaza]

I figured they depend on what chapter I am at

[shy crescent]

use it when you need it, but hog it as much as you can because the later you wait to open the more it opens for, to a point

[subtle shuttle]

is it normal getting 2 epic heros on first pull or just luck?

[rapid plaza]

So I was saving them

[inner olive]

1 is guaranteed 2 is luck

[rapid plaza]

Thank you I playing some PoT and mini games will solve my problem

[subtle shuttle]

so i can e+ him or do i wait till i have 10 copies and fodder? bc if i do it rn i can get 10 scrolls

[shy crescent]

use auto ascend but stop after that

[subtle shuttle]

ok perfect thx

[shy crescent]

unless it is orthos i think auto ascend is always fine???

[inner olive]

orthos doesn't want star right

[shy crescent]

he wants low hp

[autumn gull]

still fine, since auto ascend doesn’t add stars iirc

[shy crescent]

nice

[inner olive]

oh right it doesn't

[rapid plaza]

Is there a guide for Ascending Celestial and Hypogean heros?

[autumn gull]

and you shouldn’t ever have a whole orthos copy leftover bbl

[night belfry]

i just sum this wtf is that

[shy crescent]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

Stargazing Priorities:

#994913771598389318 message

[autumn gull]

niice, it’s useless but nice

[night belfry]

what is this ?

[shy crescent]

woke hero\

[autumn gull]

an awakened hero

[inner olive]

doesn't she have a legendary epic ? i think that's 10 te for free

[autumn gull]

oo she might actually, yea

[rapid plaza]

I have no clue

[night belfry]

and its good ?

[shy crescent]

she does

[inner olive]

she does

[rapid plaza]

So nice I have never gotten an awakened hero. I don’t even know where to get them

[inner olive]

temple of time or normal summons if you're lucky asf

[night belfry]

i got in normal sum

[lament torrent]

Hi, I'm new here, is it a good time to play on new server?

[shy crescent]

yes

[rapid plaza]

Thats Lucky 🍀

I want an awakened Thane🤣
He seems so cool

[subtle shuttle]

should i try get dracula

[shy crescent]

always start on the newest server possible

[inner olive]

ye save resources for her exchange

[shy crescent]

get every new dim even if they suck

[night belfry]

i remplace someone with her in my comp or not ?

[shy crescent]

no

[inner olive]

tatsumaki moment

[shy crescent]

yes poor terrible tornado. thankfully her dim gear is going to dracula

[inner olive]

she needed in nc now if no oddy

[shy crescent]

lol really? what invest

[inner olive]

40960 ? i'm not sure

[shy crescent]

fuck that

[rapid plaza]

Dracula kinda sucks
Maybe I don’t know how to build her.

[shy crescent]

dracula seeing nc play already, not sure about other rgm

[inner olive]

she needs 30930 or 30960 to do anything

[lament torrent]

Any to do list for newbies everyone

[night belfry]

i dont remplace lyca with her awakned form ? why

[shy crescent]

no, lyca is better than alyca

[inner olive]

ik she's also bis in ts and idk about cr

[night belfry]

okk ty bro

[shy crescent]

most wokes need to get to A to be good

hopefully 30930 cuts it. i aint spending for her after no hb swap

[wraith fjord]

PAIN

[lament torrent]

Uhmm

[shy crescent]

going to be like 2 months till i get her

[inner olive]

blud thought we were getting hbd swap and started building fawkes

[lament torrent]

Any guide would be appreciated

[inner olive]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[wraith fjord]

No blud wanted a m30 fawks for ts recoverys

[shy crescent]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan + Randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[inner olive]

o right

[lament torrent]

Tyvm

[rapid plaza]

I am at ch16 but still no sign or a mythic gear. Do I just wait? Any way to farm them or sth

[shy crescent]

dont worry about gear, that comes in time

[night belfry]

why all popular formation have randle M, and i cant even get another one randle to make him E+ xD

[rapid plaza]

Ok thank you

[inner olive]

in like 2-3 months you'll have gear resonance unlocked

can't really speed up the process it kinda just comes with time

[shy crescent]

And then you get to this point

[inner olive]

spare some mythic gear for the poor gng 💔

[lament torrent]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[rapid plaza]

One more question 😅
Dura’s artifacts or Collections

[shy crescent]

with like one exception or two colls are a hundred times better than artifacts

[inner olive]

colls are better, only useful artifacts are barricade, magic book, and duras call

[rapid plaza]

Damn thats quite an example.

[shy crescent]

dude im only mid game. somebody end game will have like 30+ of each

[rapid plaza]

Thank you I will farm for collections then

[remote merlin]

=furniture

[shy crescent]

=furn

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911949525614644

[remote merlin]

Ooh

Welp thanks

[grim hamlet]

did it help?

[wraith fjord]

It got me a few t20 finishes

Hoping finishing pushes me over

[shy crescent]

i just dropped out of t20, need wawkes so badly

[inner olive]

ayo

[remote merlin]

If I garrison shalltear who do I link her up with, i have only randle ascended

[willow bison]

[wraith fjord]

Tbh I can get t20 if I wasn’t bad at cooking
Like I fully beleive if bren did my ts for a whole cycle I’d be t20

[jaunty tapir]

I got some T2 and T3 stone choice chests, are they a waste to use them for T1 stones?

[slow relic]

if you are far in the game no.
but mostly you don't wanna use t3/t4 chests for t1 stones.
it depents a bit on how many you have, what your box looks like and what you want to gear up

[jaunty tapir]

well i'm early game atm, my randle has full M gear now and only 1/4 is T1, so I don't know if it's just worth being patient for normal T1's to come my way rather than wasting the boxes

[autumn gull]

definitely be patient

[jaunty tapir]

I suppose that's the #1 rule in general haha

[autumn gull]

gotta give it time

[slow relic]

even if it is for ivan and randle for early big pushing? if he is so early he kinda wants to push as far as he can in a very short time

[autumn gull]

T1 vs mythic gear won’t make a big diff

[slow relic]

i thought he would do full t4

and the only step stopping him is t1 stones 🤔

otherwise i agree yeah lol
just a few gear updates isn't worth

[jaunty tapir]

Yeah I just checked the chests too i can't even get T2/T3 from them as I am not far enough in the campaign

[slow relic]

you are good in time?
Chapter 30 in less than 7 days?

[slow relic]

haha, okay yeah xD than just chill haha

well actually, so early in... even these minior stat increases might be big 🤔

[grim hamlet]

Should probably go back to L gear on randle since he's agi

or at least L boots

Randle isn't really a priority for gear anyway since his stats don't matter

[jaunty tapir]

I should hit this yes, im hoping so at least

[jaunty tapir]

Ah i see, I just equipped him with the best stuff I had as he was branded as the carry in the beginner guide

[willow bison]

[lament torrent]

=TODOLIST

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan + Randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[lament torrent]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[night belfry]

I past ivan to M rn, should i upgrade this or no ?

[slow relic]

looking at the guide just above your question you see this part:
(see picture)
This clearly states get his Si30 asap, so yeah, if you have him at M just push his signature item

[night belfry]

idk what is SI30 ?

[hybrid breach]

=40960

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1470386667754881187/Hero_Investment_Notation.png?ex=698b1bcc&is=6989ca4c&hm=358d6d10bff6c0fe9e767c723ef679576177c00e8ff7d0fb657a9f4c78a8e351&

[night belfry]

Signature Item to 30 ?

[hybrid breach]

save 300 reds before doing si20->30

but yet go ahead and get his si20

[night belfry]

ok ty guys

[jaunty tapir]

I can get Ivan to M+ should I do it? i know it says to wait until i can ascend but that unit seems to be everywhere

[hybrid breach]

no point in m+ until you can bring to A

[jaunty tapir]

Ah I thought sig weapon would help me out a lot

[hybrid breach]

M yes

[night belfry]

ivan m is so broken early wtf randle cant die xD

[hybrid breach]

m+ no

[jaunty tapir]

ah right i'll get M then

[slow relic]

for ivan and randle i would do it

for everyone else, wait until you have enough copys to make them to A/1 star

[jaunty tapir]

Cool, thank you. did it for ivan and have his SI to +22 so great help now 🙂

[tepid totem]

get his si30 eventually

[night belfry]

Should I upgrade ivan M gear or Randle E gear ?

[lunar hull]

Hello! I know you're typically supposed to wait until the last 1-2 days for grit, but would it be worth to grit if I have 1 Jerome and 10 bronns?

Since youre using all faction scrolls on graveborns

[slow relic]

just to inform you, any signature push other than for the effect is often not as useful, cuz the stats hain't really matter most of the time.
As reference having a si20 ivan or a si29 ivan won't be the biggest diffrence, but once u have him si30 you will feel the extra power from the effect

So it is kinda a bad habbit to have signature items like 2x or 3x instead of clean 20/30 ones

[jaunty tapir]

Ah okay, I just blasted through as if he is the only one im focusing on its just little by little. i'll make sure to do that moving forward then 🙂

[slow relic]

yeah he is also the only one that is kinda fine cuz he is prio number 1 for si30

[drifting pasture]

any guide on dimensional heroes or whens the best time to try it? can i just try it now

[slow relic]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[slow relic]

it is the garrison part at the bottom of the guide

[drifting pasture]

ty

yoo i lucked out (still waiting for ivan and gang)

[slow relic]

1 copy Liberta is huge

[drifting pasture]

is he gonna be my dps now?

[slow relic]

no xD

you stay with randle/ivan for up to chapter 30, reachable in less than 7 days

[drifting pasture]

whats my current best 5 for campaign

[drifting pasture]

dont have them…

[slow relic]

than you know what do

[drifting pasture]

been tryingggg

but whats my current best 5 till i get them

[slow relic]

there are a bunch of events and early unlocks you can do to get some faction scrolls and diamonds.

[drifting pasture]

have got 0 faction scrolls since i started

[slow relic]

you can legit use the teams other ppl used, or refer to the guide above.

[drifting pasture]

okay

=garrison

[gilded sapphire]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[drifting pasture]

i miss my old accountttt

[slow relic]

there is no 5 man setup that will work for all your stages. Thus it is kinda important to read team compositions on the guide to understand what to do and what to do if stuck

[drifting pasture]

ok whats my best dps in the account rn, wukong/liberta?

just tell me that pls 😭✌️

vika selene altheus?

[nova wharf]

Is Alyca used in NC rn at all? I'd look at rankings but I don't have a lot of time rn

[slow relic]

iirc someone did chapter 30 in 2 days, mostly because he also had to sleep at some point when he was really stuck. Should be a good pinpoint that you can push very far as long as you are active, smart, and doing all the stuff you unlock along the way (like peaks of time. wonderous pouch like shadow invasion and forest mania)

Your best dps is just wukong, he is a beast early on

[tepid totem]

no

[drifting pasture]

hes struggling already thats why im trying other stuff

[slow relic]

i am a bit confused about the rem garrison 🤔 i think this is a bit old text there

[jaunty tapir]

I mentioned this a few days ago, but was told it's all up to date, I garrisoned rem but think I should have done Shuna

[drifting pasture]

ivan and rem got me to ch 31 3y ago

so shuna or rem?

[slow relic]

maybe it is to reduce rng for two GBs? not sure, doesn't sound right

[slow relic]

yeah, 3 years ago. These days ppl use Ivan + randle

[tepid raft]

Any new codes for april

[slow relic]

it is what it is. you have a rem for 30 days no, could be usable to push with her aswell

[drifting pasture]

okay

[lament torrent]

Can I spend diamonds pulling from tavern? Just a few hours in

[drifting pasture]

ok liberta making it a lot easier

[jaunty tapir]

Her survivability isn't there right now, she dies too quick, randle has helped me push an incredible amount

[drifting pasture]

so who do i garrison?

[jaunty tapir]

Always the x10 if you use diamonds

[lament torrent]

I did

[jaunty tapir]

That's great 🙂

[drifting pasture]

=garrison

[gilded sapphire]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[lament torrent]

When should I save diamonds

[jaunty tapir]

+guide

=Guide

[drifting pasture]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[drifting pasture]

im gonna garrison rem yea since the guides say so and i trust theyre updated

[jaunty tapir]

do what you think is best 🙂

[jaunty tapir]

Follow the guide, you will be fine

[slow relic]

you have fused her with someone right? xD

[jaunty tapir]

Yes

She was fused with one of the Legendary + fodder units, as they were my highest like the guide says, then everyone else is Elite+ as again the guide said wait until you can get A with a chaarcter 🙂

But yeah she was amazing for a bit and now i can't get her going where randle is working well

[slow relic]

we also got #lineup-help
this is exactly for ppl stuck.
very often, it is a skill issue when ppl are stuck.
not being offensive here, i do have skill issues aswell 😄 but this is why other ppl impact is so helpful

[slow relic]

back than it used to be a even a bit easier as we all were going for aShem, she legit just delays death for ppl, and often this 1/2 sec extra was enough for ivan to ult, so rem can ult and than it is a win xD

[jaunty tapir]

Haha I do want Ashem, she seems very good

[slow relic]

she is, but she is prio number 3 cuz there are just better wokes lol

[rapid plaza]

Ugrh Savage waste is such a pain

Worst chapter ever

[drifting pasture]

okay thanks

[errant sable]

does monthly card still scale based on vip level?

[shy crescent]

Not afaik

[inner olive]

the guide doesn't say to garrison rem tho

[jaunty tapir]

It does at the top

In the team comp area it says to garrison rem ASAP

[inner olive]

they forgot to update that part lmao

[jaunty tapir]

Ah damn lol

[slow relic]

kekW

[inner olive]

also the whole team comp part is like 2 years old

[shy crescent]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[drifting pasture]

so pink or purple hair

[inner olive]

purple better

get shuna (pink hair one) after you've exchanged dracula

[jaunty tapir]

If this is the case, does this guide need an overhaul in certain areas then?

[drifting pasture]

should i just do the dracula 3 day trial rn

[inner olive]

she's terrible without 9f anyways so it doesn't matter when you use the trial

[drifting pasture]

im ch7 it doesnt matter if she has 9f

[jaunty tapir]

Use her then, don't ask when to use her and then counter the advice

[inner olive]

actually yeah she might work alright at low chapters since nobody dies there anyways

[river shuttle]

not every advise here is good

[drifting pasture]

deadass just yapping 😭✌️

[jaunty tapir]

sure,

[drifting pasture]

do i use now and what do i get

[harsh acorn]

Hold it.

[drifting pasture]

for when

[inner olive]

new lucilla skin, it will apparently be free

great for the 5 people who have her built and who don't have her old skin

[drifting pasture]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[drifting pasture]

=as

[river shuttle]

dracula exchange

[tepid totem]

the skin doesnt even look like her

[night belfry]

idk why ivan something shield another person

[cinder flax]

Would this be a good investment? I was planning to build Eorin to 20330 to give him to Jerome, but I haven't gotten many copies of him; I have 9 copies of Bronn.

[cinder flax]

What chapter are you on?

[drowsy terrace]

buddy what are you looking for?

[night belfry]

21

[drowsy terrace]

seems solid enough, go ahead

[night belfry]

i unlock auto battling im so happpppy

[cinder flax]

Ivan must have more damage than Randle, and Randle should be second in damage. It could also be because you get left alone too quickly. What team are you using?

[cinder flax]

Anyway I must wait until the week is over to do so; I need to take advantage of Elthara to reach CH 35.

[night belfry]

ik but on some stage ivan give shield to another person for no reason, and randle have the most dammge behind ivan

[drowsy terrace]

dmg doesnt matter

atk rating does

someone else on the team must end up having more atk rating than randle does

[drowsy terrace]

hence ivan shielding them instead of randle

[night belfry]

its possible a ennmy reduce attack of randle ?

its not all stage, juste some stage make this happen idk why

[cinder flax]

In this case, it's Mira who gets the shield, right?

[errant sable]

it should be initial atk tho no?

[drowsy terrace]

yea, i think its saf or isabella who does that

[drowsy terrace]

nah it can change if someone else gets a higher atk rating

[cinder flax]

Yes, it's only during the initial attack.

[drowsy terrace]

or atleast i think so

[night belfry]

depend, Mira can have it but Lyca too, i just restar the fight when randle get the shield its win

[cinder flax]

Maybe I should remove Mira's equipment

Just give Randle and Ivan equipment

Remove the others until you get more copies of Randle

[errant sable]

"while manipulating the allied hero with the highest initial Attack rating" implies like, what the atk is at the start of combat, not after mid combat buffs

[night belfry]

i will never get randle copies 🙁 its like 1500 sum and never get randle again wtf

[drowsy terrace]

its been a while since i actually looked at what a hero does

[cinder flax]

I'm missing the Coll storm

[drowsy terrace]

forgive me for the misinformation

[errant sable]

ehh you get plenty of ways to choose heroes in this game, you can always just pick randle in those

and theres always gritting

[cinder flax]

Or if you have 8 copies of another character, you can always swap them for Randle.

[errant sable]

^^^

[night belfry]

i have a faction chest but ppl say to not use it now

[errant sable]

sure the default advice is dont grit early but like, if ur insanely fucked on randle luck for 2 weeks then maybe its time

[lament torrent]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[cinder flax]

Don't use it until you have 7 copies of Randle or Ivan

[errant sable]

should pretty much only use it when you have 7 of an important hero and you have fodder to ascend them if you get the 8th copy from the chest and it would make you progress a lot

[cinder flax]

The problem is that you're trying to follow the guide to the letter; the guide is just a starting point, you don't have to follow it exactly.

[night belfry]

i need 3 copy of ivan rn

[night belfry]

yes its logic

[cinder flax]

Then don't use it yet.

[errant sable]

never spend resources unless you can actually take stuff all the way and itd actually progress your account

[cinder flax]

Send your heroes by faction

[night belfry]

but im so so so unlucky with randle xD

Ok wait

[errant sable]

I got the same on Alvida

10 palmer, 6 jerome, 1 alvida fml

[cinder flax]

I'm only lucky in love; in AFK, if I hadn't bought Elthara, I was about to convert Vika 401260 out of sheer rage.

[night belfry]

🤣

[cinder flax]

One question, have you performed all the peak time trials at 100%?

[errant sable]

fuck, good reminder, I gotta play vampire survivor

[cinder flax]

You have very few heroes at this point in the adventure; by now you should have at least one A.

[night belfry]

nope im waiting to do it when i will get stuck on campain

[cinder flax]

I just finished them and I was helping Koyo hahaha

[errant sable]

my brother in christ how many diamonds do you have

did u even pull

[night belfry]

what

[cinder flax]

Well, you've got your work cut out for you; the PoT guides are on afkguide.

[errant sable]

like, how do you have so few heroes

[jaunty tapir]

Damn i must have messed up as well then

[night belfry]

im playing the game for like 3 days now

[cinder flax]

It's possible he only shot with diamonds

[errant sable]

are you spending all your diamonds in noble tavern or not?

ig like you said you havent done peak of time yet

[cinder flax]

PoT, forest mania, shadow invasions

Wandering balloon

[night belfry]

yes where i can spend it anyway xD

[errant sable]

oki good

idk some ppl go "oh, idle game, I should save my diamonds"
but earlygame you just wanna spam 10 pulls

[jaunty tapir]

Yeah i've been getting through it all, on the second Page of Shadow Invasions, probs have a fair few Forest Mania to do and wandering balloon i got 6 to do, so will get all of that done now

[cinder flax]

Do everything you can in PoT, collect the scrolls and use them in the Noble Tavern, otherwise you'll never progress

[errant sable]

anyway do your PoT stuff, its hundreds of pulls and it matters
yes fuck candy crush
yes fuck vampire survivors

lets shoot whoever is responsible for adding those to the game, I agree

but you should still do them, free pulls :D

[night belfry]

Nono but u scare me i was thinking about what im doing bad xD

[cinder flax]

Yes, it helps a lot, although at that point I only had Randle A and Ivan A1

[night belfry]

Rn ? Or i wait to get stuck on campain ?

[errant sable]

rn

[cinder flax]

Rn

[night belfry]

Ok boss

[errant sable]

whenever you have the energy to do it

[cinder flax]

Jajjaja Same neuron

[jaunty tapir]

I think i'm Ch. 24, and I only got Ivan M so far

[errant sable]

especially cuz today is a graveborn faction summon day

[cinder flax]

Ivan M SI20-30 is fine for now, but you should start leveling up Randle too.

[night belfry]

i think i will use 💳 i have only randle E 🤣

[errant sable]

use all faction scrolls on graveborn 🫡
(tbh I just spend the 300gems to switch factions in my first few days, its worth it, 300 gems is fuck all for how much extra progress, that progress a day or 2 earlier is worth more than 300 gems ngl)

[cinder flax]

It's not worth it

[night belfry]

ik

[cinder flax]

So if you know, don't do it.

[night belfry]

faction scroll is scam 😠 only rare spawn

[cinder flax]

Rng

[night belfry]

yes boss

[errant sable]

if youre gonna spend 💸

for like 15$/18eur you can get Elthera (unless ur unlucky af then its like 40eur, or another 2 days of waiting) and she will be amazing for the next like, few years of your account at just 1 copy

[night belfry]

not rng its racism

[jaunty tapir]

Randle I have 6 copies of, just waiting for more to get him to A, him and Ivan are my highest characters atm

[cinder flax]

Also, you should do the tower in auto battle mode; you should reach level 250 with that.

[cinder flax]

Do you still have the chest?

[night belfry]

what ? with pull ?

[jaunty tapir]

I think I used the chest to unlock the character initially as my luck was just terrible

[cinder flax]

Bad luck for me, I had to take Randle out of there because I couldn't get him to work and I was with Vika-ivan until chapter 12

[cinder flax]

Same jajaja

[jaunty tapir]

Yeah mine was rem instead lmao but it was just rough

[night belfry]

i think randle is just more rare than awakned hero 🤣

[jaunty tapir]

And now i've found out rem isn't who I should have gone for in the garrison too

[cinder flax]

Ouch, that must have hurt, since shaltear is infinitely better.

[cinder flax]

It's not necessary, I'm telling you, I just got it in chapter 32

[jaunty tapir]

It did hurt, especially since i asked a few times in here and was assured the guide was up to date

[night belfry]

@errant sable this ? with my luck i will get nothing xD

[errant sable]

the lucky wheel event you can get the special event deal 3x (1$, 5$, 10$) for like, 80+310+640 of the lucky wheel currency

spending those on top of your normal daily 130 currency should get you to 30 pulls this event (you might wanna do the math on if youll need to buy the daily 1$ for 60 extra currency in the daily deal section of the merchants)

which will get you enough medals to buy 50 dragon insignia pulls

[night belfry]

Okok

[cinder flax]

Not there, at the roulette event

[night belfry]

here ?

[cinder flax]

In this section, the first purchases are around $18 to get enough shots to get 525 to exchange for 50DI

[errant sable]

you might have to do the math on if you have enough normal income from dailies to actually make it to 30 pulls before the event ends

[rapid plaza]

Yay I got my first Mythic gear
Randle will be very happy

[cinder flax]

That's if you want to spend money for a chance; even 50DI doesn't guarantee you a copy of Elthara.

[errant sable]

but its another 5 days of drops so thats 130 * 5 = 650
then you can buy like 1000+ easily
should get you there?

[rapid plaza]

What is T1 btw

[errant sable]

50 doesnt but we're getting 10 more from from warm reunion in like 2 days time

[cinder flax]

Tier

[errant sable]

and pity is at 65 iirc soooo, should be fine unless ur unlucky in which case u gotta buy a few more to hit pity

(or u just get 5 from your ass)

[cinder flax]

The quality of the weapon

[cinder flax]

I actually did the calculations, the pity is 70

[errant sable]

u can buy 10 in guild store tbf

[errant sable]

did u do individual pulls after 6th 10x or wha?

[cinder flax]

Or you simply get $1000 and become a whale and get it at A1 40960

[errant sable]

prob better highborns to A1 first

[cinder flax]

It came out at 70% in my case, hahaha, I have 17 saved, I need to save 700.

[errant sable]

idk Im not a whale so I dont remember dragons lol

[cinder flax]

Odi

[night belfry]

we dont have the same shop xD

[cinder flax]

Visiting

[night belfry]

Im in

[cinder flax]

You are in wishing

[rapid plaza]

Should I save this or use?

[cinder flax]

Oh wait, I already saw it.

[errant sable]

I have 4... but I still need to get 50 from the event ig (or however many I get to)

[cinder flax]

In Ivan or randle

[night belfry]

no wishing is this

[cinder flax]

Haven't you spun the roulette wheel yet?

[errant sable]

u telling me u straight up dont have event deals when u click more in the bottom right?

[night belfry]

always on daily routine

[errant sable]

is this locked behind vip level or player level somehow?

if so just go do the PoT and get a few more stages in lol

[cinder flax]

Daily purchases appear

[cinder flax]

He's probably the VIP

What VIP level are you? @night belfry

[night belfry]

where can i see

[errant sable]

why am I even helping someone find how to get addicted to spending money on idle games

[night belfry]

🤣

[errant sable]

plus sign next to the diamonds and then close the actual deals popup

[cinder flax]

Oferts-tradepost-advwbturer privileges

[cinder flax]

I think it's at VIP5

[errant sable]

anyway doubt they lock spending money behind having spent money lmao

[cinder flax]

You need to progress in the campaign and level up.

[cinder flax]

I just got on the 6th

[night belfry]

ok first i will go to pot

[cinder flax]

Auto battles in guild -

[cinder flax]

PoT

[night belfry]

but if u unlock this dragon in chap 30 i think its better to grind

[errant sable]

just go do PoT
get a bunch of scrolls
use them in graveborn (hell, spend 300gems if its not on graveborn if you do them tmr)

get some more copies of ivan & randle

also go do kings tower for dust and all, get your randle & ivan to lvl 160

do more campaign, get more levels 🫡

[cinder flax]

That dragon works in L in chapter 60

Or 50, I don't remember

[night belfry]

yeah i know with this =todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan + Randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[cinder flax]

And if you know her, why don't you follow her? hahaha

[errant sable]

shes a 1 copy wonder

but for the record you can get her for free if you just wait, you can get plenty of highborn pulls over time, especially with events, and just pulling 1 copy is pretty doable

[night belfry]

like always 🥺

[night belfry]

i push the campain first when im stuck im doing pot xD

But auto battle work campain work if i go to POT ?

[cinder flax]

You can't do both at the same time

[errant sable]

"let me bash my head into a wall for 20 hours and if that doesnt work imma do PoT instead of doing PoT first and then taking a stroll through campaign on auto battle for 30 minutes while I watch youtube"

[cinder flax]

I think I'll stay on my account f2p To distract myself a little, I'm going to get really angry if I get elthara there

[rapid plaza]

Can u recommend me ? Which piece would make the most efficient.

[errant sable]

update ur nickname btw

youre no chapter 32 scrub

[rapid plaza]

Ivan or Randle

[cinder flax]

I'd prefer you use it on Ivan, although I don't know how high up you've gotten them. Could you send me a picture of your GBs, please?

[night belfry]

i follow the todolist and guide starter pack

[cinder flax]

It's for more pleasure.

[errant sable]

fml my randle gear SUCKS

[cinder flax]

👀

Vika 40960 moment

[errant sable]

I beat 1 & 3
but I cant beat 2

maybe I should shuffle teams around, idek

[night belfry]

im playing on bluestack and watch a youtube video when im going to PoT xD

[cinder flax]

What team do you use in the second game?

[errant sable]

2nd is randle ivan

[cinder flax]

Let me see

[night belfry]

My dream private server open again 🥺

[cinder flax]

I've played CH32 so many times I have an idea haha

[rapid plaza]

Now Randle has 3 times more defence than my tank😅

[cinder flax]

I think at this point it doesn't matter, you can give it to Ivan

[errant sable]

I suppose I should use seal but still

idk I wish I could use the treat pet but I need it for team 1 rn

[rapid plaza]

Which piece

[naive echo]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[cinder flax]

The wand

[rapid plaza]

Thank you for helping

[night belfry]

Yes thank you for the helping guys too

[cinder flax]

Change the hypogean to Gorren

[errant sable]

this guy has T1 chestplate before me

[night belfry]

Lets PoT content

[cinder flax]

Isn't she a girl?

[errant sable]

this girl has T1 chestplate before me

[cinder flax]

Well, rule number 1 of the internet, everyone is a penguin until proven otherwise

[errant sable]

this is why im so stuck

[naive echo]

Uh what is that col

[cinder flax]

Swap Hypogean for Gorren

[naive echo]

Common gang

[errant sable]

pain & suffering

average triple blue totem L

[naive echo]

You legit only need 2 the lvl up totem and the mirical worker totem and then the totem u wanna build the col for then you can get 8+ if u lucky

[errant sable]

im ngl penguin
who tf is gorren-

(quite sure ive used gorren before but I rarely do lol)

[cinder flax]

Penguin

[naive echo]

Im kinda bored in afk rn
Nothing to do
Waiting on the update 😴🛌

[cinder flax]

When is it?

I don't remember if it was today or the ñ I don't remember if it's today or next week.

[naive echo]

I think patch notes release tommorow on test server or main one im not to sure

[errant sable]

u havent proven otherwise

[naive echo]

No might be the 4th on test

[cinder flax]

Then it'll probably hit the main page next week, I'm just waiting for the scrolls

[cinder flax]

It would be great to be a penguin.

[errant sable]

nobody sets their discord pronouns anymore these days

[cinder flax]

Chubby, small, and easy to carry everywhere hahaha

[naive echo]

I have

[errant sable]

ngl im not gonna use praise the lord jesus christ as a neopronoun for you

[naive echo]

Not actually
I used that space to write that

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-conquest-conquest-invincible-heart-making-heart-gif-14627764842539823182

[cinder flax]

In fact, it wouldn't be bad to put a penguin there haha

[errant sable]

I hate vampire survivors gamemode

[cinder flax]

Ask for help

It's awful, but if you use Mirael it usually helps a lot since it's easier to deal with at a distance. Then you get Shemira and you wonder what you're doing with your life when she starts enjoying that mode.

[errant sable]

how does that work

does that just make u have to do it?
or do you just have to click something and it flags it as done?

[cinder flax]

Just like in Forest Mania

[errant sable]

idk ive never helped anyone

but its not like its hard, it just takes foreverrrrrr

[cinder flax]

It's not difficult, but there's a point where none of your main abilities work and you're surrounded by 50,000 plants that won't let you move forward.

[shy crescent]

i had a friend request forest mania help once. removed him and haven't had that same problem since

[glass kindle]

Where is a more reliable source of codes because the discord doesn’t seem to be up to date

[shy crescent]

most of these are out of date, but it has all the new ones i know other than selene2025
https://afk.guide/redemption-codes/

[errant sable]

anyone got anoki for me to merc?

[dawn kayak]

hello, I have shuna/rem/marcille and who should be my 4th dim for garnison?

[rich sparrow]

Guys should I use my red furniture cards on Ashemira or Daemia first? I have 9 cards and 0 furn on both of them

[winged crest]

ashem

[dawn kayak]

=fq

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[winged crest]

dont even put daemia in wishlist tbh

[hasty flax]

hell o guys

[harsh acorn]

chaewon lives?

[hasty flax]

i never died

[cloud pollen]

Only rush if you need the furniture skill unlocks to push for RGM ranks

[harsh acorn]

I thought you quit

[hasty flax]

i did, im trying to get lvl 60 here tho

[rich sparrow]

She doesn’t need f9?

[cloud pollen]

Now to think of it chaewon sound like a brand of cheese rings

[winged crest]

nvm, mb

[hasty flax]

this ischaewon

[winged crest]

i mixed the name up wqith daimon

[cloud pollen]

Surely AI can make something out of that

A Kpop singer with Daimon head

[rich sparrow]

Well, I have 9 cards. What should I do with them?

[cloud pollen]

Keep it, not sure why you have the urge to must use them up

[errant sable]

Yunie can I borrow an Anoki from you 🥺

[cloud pollen]

I mean think about it, for what purpose do you intend to use up everything in the first place? It's not calculation round in TS, unless you want that arena rank 1 so badly?

Sure I'm not sure which account has a friend spot most likely Valerie or something

[errant sable]

nvm someone approved my merc request

[cloud pollen]

[errant sable]

im all good 🫡 didnt think anyone was online cuz they didnt approve for a while

[rich sparrow]

Man I’m too behind in the game I think, I don’t think I understand what you’re saying xD.
Could I maybe send you a screen of my Oak inn?

[cloud pollen]

For what reason? There's the option of "Just keep the cards for when you need emergency upgrades" instead of using them all"

[prisma carbon]

Just hoard :d

[errant sable]

the best use of red furn cards is to get like 50 of them and make a screenshot to flex

[rich sparrow]

In what case would I need it for an emergency? I’m sorry I’m just around 2 months in

[cloud pollen]

I think alt is at 40 by now

[cinder flax]

That's something a demon penguin said he would tell me 187 years ago.

[errant sable]

wha

[cloud pollen]

Nah looks like you're not even competitive, just don't use for now

[rich sparrow]

Well, cool I think..
One last question, what is the best use for the coin chest this dimensional event is giving? I already have all the coins I need, so should I go Arena coins to get as many copies of Alna as I can?

[velvet jetty]

Yes, challenge coins are best until you finish those units

[rich sparrow]

Thanks man

[cinder flax]

Which should I get first? Alvida SI20 or Jerome SI20?

[cloud pollen]

The priority only starts to matter when you are thinking about SI30 because those not red emblems are so cheap you can just buy with gold

[willow bison]

[cloud pollen]

You probably won't even see a difference in your rank going either way because SI20 either first means you still lose

[dapper gate]

is t2/4 just no maetria and no alvida 40? every other team is 58%+

still t100 tho

[cloud pollen]

Alvida is practically unusable without 40 if you actually want to climb

[dapper gate]

surely i just 40 her then

[cloud pollen]

And no Maetria just adds to seal team not the "Oh my gosh I don't have her I'm cooked"

There is no proper bis because you don't even face same stuff every time

[dapper gate]

true

@cloud pollen thoughts on alvida 40? since this pic ive built and 40’d wippa but everything else is the same i have 634 red 1153 silver and alot of rewards chests that i can get reds from

[brazen terrace]

Since there will be swap event, should I swap to Fawkes or envy

[dapper gate]

but also new dragolite and prob new woke after that so idk

[brazen terrace]

I built other old hero already in my old account so maybe best to swap for something better

[dapper gate]

what wokes do you have?

also there will be plenty of guides that come out but most peoples answer will be fawkes

[brazen terrace]

Belinda,Brutus,baden

[brazen terrace]

Ok I'll take this then

[brazen terrace]

Which woke should I swap to Fawkes

[cloud pollen]

Because you in extended friend circle I can tell you: do investments if you want to climb, if you just OK with staying at a bracket you have no reason to do investment

[dapper gate]

youll probably end up swapping brutus or baden but just wait a week or so into event and youll get a solid answer

[dapper gate]

nah i wanna climb 🫡

just always wanna make sure im not leaving a better option on the table

[cloud pollen]

How does it feel to overly worry about grit? You swap early to get boost and then you suffer for missed opportunities later, or you wait it out and delay yourself? Either path is not F2P friendly

[dapper gate]

this is true

[brazen terrace]

Not grit, the patch note said there will be swap event

[cloud pollen]

That will still be at least a few days away and should last a whole month, plenty of time

[timber cedar]

lilith should go kill themselves

[dapper gate]

=ratio

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1365328577561886740/RDT_20250425_0707255117226094771476277.jpg?ex=680ce8d3&is=680b9753&hm=b814c2f065b318f58746e04bb4fa6e42892297e393fa95795bd0046ce5451d3b&

[cloud pollen]

Are you still mad that Lilith refuse to give in and hand F2Ps instant big boost of a dragon swap they so don't deserve?

[timber cedar]

yes

[brazen terrace]

Isn't the event can't be used to swap draconis?

[cloud pollen]

What can I say? Most of those who support such an idiotic idea are selfish and think about only themselves, disregarding how it's going to wreck the game even more than what's already falling apart

[timber cedar]

And why is that?

[cloud pollen]

Yes, and some are completely mad for not allowing that, all they wanted is selfish gain

[dapper gate]

[timber cedar]

nahh bro we go all in for ts

[cloud pollen]

You want a free big boost for nothing, how is that not selfish?

[timber cedar]

But how will it ruin the game? and how is lilith any less greedy?

[cloud pollen]

You getting big boost means people who are ahead of you, suddenly are behind you with no fault of their own

[timber cedar]

swaps do the same thing, people get to swap their ass lycas and watha to something better like fawkes

while others who A) joined later, or B) didn't plan for no dragons are suddnely left behind

[cloud pollen]

Big players have an answer to that by rushing stars using SG and diamond, it's way less damaging, most even including some krakens, don't have the DI to answer instant 5* given to F2P for free

And again I go with this argument, what has F2P ever done to deserve free 1000+ DI worth of boost?

Don't say "We played so long and support this game so much" because no you're technically still resource drain

[timber cedar]

Firstly, this is a game, dragons itself are a money grab, wouldn't it be beneficial just to give small p2w and f2p more of a fighting chance with dragons? 2. whales also benefit, especially with the whole dgwyn fiasco, their 5036100 gwyn can be swapped to something like skylan, or lan

as for people with lan, levi, and skylan, they would still benefit by having their hild gone to something like oddy or haelia or kae

[cloud pollen]

Your argument is still the "Lilith is greedy and they shouldn't be" and refuse to answer the "Why should Lilith break the fragile balance by giving F2P undeserved boost over even dolphins who struggle to make 1* highborn"?

Originally I'm just against Hildwin swap advocates and showed sympathy towards Gwyn swappers, now I have absolutely none for people after their manchildren behaviour on reddit and now this place

[chilly sphinx]

I think you both hold fair arguments

[olive jewel]

[cloud pollen]

Not really, any argument they can make over the must to allow dragon swap, can be rebutted with even stronger response

[subtle timber]

The issue is that this is being framed as an “undeserved boost,” when in reality a limited swap event is a correction tool, not a free handout.
A Highborn or Hildwin/Gwyn swap would not suddenly make free-to-play players stronger than dolphins or whales. Players would only be reallocating value they already earned or invested, not receiving new resources out of nowhere. The total account progression remains the same — the only difference is that previous investment mistakes become less punishing. This actually helps the long-term health of the game because it reduces permanent account damage caused by outdated meta choices, balance shifts, or developer-led power changes. Gacha games evolve constantly, and when the meta changes, players should have at least a limited way to adapt.

As for the “fragile balance,” healthy balance is not about locking players into old mistakes forever. It is about keeping progression meaningful while allowing reasonable flexibility. A one-time or very rare swap preserves monetization, because whales still keep their broader hero pools, faster progression, higher star investments, and resource advantage. In fact, this can even benefit low spenders and dolphins, who are often the most punished by bad investment choices because they spend enough to care, but not enough to easily recover. A swap event supports retention across all spending tiers instead of only helping one side.

[dapper gate]

they could really screw everyone and give no swap so i hold the belief take what you can get

[cloud pollen]

Don't use "correction tool" as an excuse, people built Gwyn back then for one of the reasons:

• To be viable in AE competition
• Because she looks gorgeous (still does)

You made the decision, you got your rewards (AE frame and guild competitive rank), powercreep kicks in, she is no longer relevant, this is not "mistake" to be corrected

If you were able to see the future, you should have joined a competitive guild that didn't require her to be built

And if you built her because she looks good and you like, you wouldn't even be complaining in the first place

[timber cedar]

Also how many posts are there on reddit? Maximum 5. and replies? maybe 20 for each. Well those are a small minority that does not show the way people act in general of the AFK community. Secondly, their behaviour has nothing to do with the way lilith acts.

Anyways whales only exist because of free 2 play players. if there are no f2p people then the ranks whales hold have no point. So why can't we therefore make the competition slightly fairer by giving f2p a chance to catch up to those p2w whales? And whales are called whales because they are that much ahead of regular players, so that wouldn't affect them in the first place

[cloud pollen]

Swapping to a more modern, relevant dragon IS receiving resource out of nowhere, you replace something not used, for something that's used, without spending a dime nor the resource needed

Here we go again with the "F2P is important because we're what keeps games alive" blah blah blah

[timber cedar]

Yes but everyone receives the same amount of resources and even though it is proportionally different beecause of the amount of base resources somebody has, they still receive the same amount

[inner olive]

you can just say that here ? no automod ?

[cloud pollen]

Good thing most F2P are actually the silent majority and they enjoy playing the game quietly, not the specific fraction that barks so loud whenever things don't go their way

[timber cedar]

yeah fuck lilith bro

[inner olive]

i was more referring to the last 2 words

[timber cedar]

Not only f2p but also whales and dolphins

[cloud pollen]

Don't you even dare try to represent them

[timber cedar]

buddy don't act like you haven't heard those words before

[inner olive]

just thought a 150k member server that bans the word corn would also ban that

[chilly sphinx]

[cloud pollen]

I understand your frustration, because I went through that phase of Lilith hating before, but if you just take a deep breath and think about why they don't do it, you'll actually be calm

[timber cedar]

so? have you not heard about the many wahles who have quit

[timber cedar]

well don't mention it and itll disappear. if they see it they might reconsider their actions

plus lilith isn't a person and is a company so like kill yourself doesn't even apply the normal way

[cloud pollen]

Whales will quit for one reason or another, not allowing dragon swap causing them to quit happens, but it's nowhere near as damaging as #engraveyard and #nodraconisforafk phases back then, they can quit if they are bored too, it's nothing new

[inner olive]

fair

[velvet jetty]

Cool dopey could also be blind dopey

[cloud pollen]

I would like a request for :cookeddopeywearingsunglassesandsmokescomeoutofthepot:

[olive jewel]

[timber cedar]

more importantly is the f2p that are quitting, and small doolphins who also feel like they don't have a chance to compete anymore

[cloud pollen]

Again, you overrate the importance of F2P competitive subset

[timber cedar]

also do reds have cd 🙁

[inner olive]

maiden just pulled out chatgpt for a suggestion

straight gpt 5, 0 words written by a human

i'm crine 💔

[timber cedar]

What about those smaller p2w people? f2ps are important, the more people that play = more visibility for the game

bro's typing an essay 💀

[cloud pollen]

Maiden is bullshitting by this point, replacing not meta hero with meta hero and "account progression remains the same"? When you see a significant RGM boost without spending a single extra DI?

Helping long term health of a game? Keep in mind that dragon swap does NOT for new players, all you will do is boost yourselves, keep newer people away from being able to catch up, leaving THEM frustrated, and leave, and some of them could have been potential spenders, meanwhile these F2Ps who stayed long enough, pretty much are set to NOT spend at all

Just like real life, mistakes can happen, everyone makes mistakes, I made big mistakes that cause me to have to run new discord account and lost shit tied to email and all that, it's part of life, don't see why everything in life needs intervention to 'correct' because you can't move out of comfort zone

[cloud pollen]

They benefit more from NOT having to deal with one extra highborn given to F2P for free, 0 vs 1 is easier than 1 vs 2

[autumn river]

Wat da yap

[timber cedar]

Yo what thats why you're yunie now

[cloud pollen]

I'm not ashamed to admit even I'm stupid at times and prone to being screwed over, difference is I learn from mistakes and move on

[timber cedar]

Whales already have the dragons, so their benefit is much less, since gwyn -> kaelon is less impact than gwyn -> skylan/elthara. or some whales may even only go for an invest swap

[cloud pollen]

"Whales already have dragons so why shouldn't F2P be given one extra and cause competitve ladder to mess up?"

[hearty crag]

so dragon swap only helps the f2p that have played for a while and dolphins or ?

[autumn river]

[cloud pollen]

It helps F2P way too massively and completely shatters the current 'balance', may help spenders who made mistake, only harms those who spend and build right ones to get ahead in the first place

[timber cedar]

I already explained that whales still stand to benefit from swapping their gwyns to something more beneficial, while smaller players have the chance to compete by receivng a free dragon. Anyways either way its not an equal trade, but isn't completely one sided either

[hearty crag]

just the newer players get completely shafted then

and giga whales

[cloud pollen]

You failed to answer this: Why should they be given a chance to compete AT THE COST OF RUINING SMALL SPENDERS?

[timber cedar]

and what roster do you count as a small spender?

[winged crest]

well giga whales probably dont care

[timber cedar]

and also as an anniversary event, its slowly becoming somethingn less special and just like a "holiday" sort of thing

[cloud pollen]

You still haven't answer "Why should they"

[hearty crag]

regardless of what decision they make someones getting the short end of the stick cant satisfy em all

[timber cedar]

well what do you count as small spenders? skylan, lan, levi? lan, levi, elthara skylan? lan levi elthara skylan oddy?

[cloud pollen]

Because you can't even come up with a convincing argument, anything tied to "Lilith should be nicer" will just be sent a "Not with your current behaviour of wishing Lilith death"

[timber cedar]

I am wishing lilith death because mr. or mrs. lilith never changes their mind unless significant backlash (never as seen with draco, gg, and engrave) occurs. so it doesn't matter at all. they announced no dragon, it means no dragon swap for this year

[turbid spade]

There's no dragon swap lol

[timber cedar]

lilith should be nicer? everyone knows lilith won't change their minds. lilith is mean, so why can't others respond in the same way

[turbid spade]

Lilith isn't mean💀 they have idg prolly breathing down thier necks

[winged crest]

idk this mean lilith will hand out a free Levi this update

[cloud pollen]

The ironic thing is, the only way this will be 'fairest' would be to NOT have hero swap in the first place for anyone, once again reinforcing my point about how these sub fraction of F2P are selfish and don't actually want game to be fair, they just want benefits themselves for no effort