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thank you
Or just don't listen because you're set in your own ways and suffer or something I don't know 
alright thanks
I've been having really bad luck on this new account, to the point that I have 9 shemiras without having it on my wishlist.
you have a Kae merc available? 
Great grit moment
Do I still? I can't remember if Kisaka sent away one, main went to JD
are there certain ones i should choose to switch bronn with bc he’s a5?
It could be Alvida
Whichever is most stat dependent or best. Honestly it doesn’t matter as much as you would think. Probably alvida
Alvida is good if she can survive 5 seconds. But she dies very easily until she gets si40. So more stats might help
I am so screwed for NC but I am relying on everyone else being even more screwed
Feisty, if I only have Mira, Ivan, Randle, and Naroko in A/A1
Which would be the best option, Shaltear or Shuna? Rem could also be an option since another DPS wouldn't hurt; I also have Wawks in L.
I was hoping to finally get some DI but new boss has me struggling for a 1:20 kill
I am not a good person to ask. I’ve never used shalltear. But I think it’s her

Ty
Aethus is a lot better than naroko for camp
1:55 rn and I am still t150
the switching is done
I only have one copy of Atheus for now; I'll use Naroko for the dim
Don’t look like you are in a bad spot. Might use the anniversary swap to change ashem for wawkes
Aethus is usable at E+
For a while at least
Since you already took Knox to si30 might want to 40 him sooner than typical but other people would be better sources for that
What’s anniversary swap? I keep hearing ppl talk ab it but don’t have it on my server
Every anniversary, some time in April, they allow a hero swap, some heroes excluded
should i use it to swap zohra to pippa
It is coming soon supposedly
Ohhh okok good to know
I was thinking about swapping Zohra for wawkes
i already got him
pippa wont be swapable
wow that’s really cool bruh
Yeah. 2026 hero
might have to just die
We might get to swap hb
whatever zohra team 50% winrate in TS so it’s fine
Swap your hildwin and make Zohra even more useless
my hildwin is one copy from A so not even built
aurelia surprisingly effective
I don’t have Lysander or Tamrus built but Lysander should be built soon. I’m saving that comp
thats an interesting comp
i need his si30 and zohra 9f
works decently
Are you t100?
i was t70 before frost and then i was .4% and now with 4 teams i dropped from 37 to 92 cuz i swapped rimuru with daemia in envy team. it’s been a bad time
My Zohra comp is 11% win rate right now so I’m saving that. Easy build
u can have it my guy
that team is just elthara comp but with zohra lol
oh shoots time to set the 5th team
this was in frost but this time i have alvida si40 so
any Kae mercs kicking around? 
God I need to build shalltear too
what region?
53
Just got her. I went laios but I’ll pick up another din when I have the invest ready
show that box rq chief
6 wokes holy
should build Kaelon and merc it to me bud 
Yeah once I get wawkes I’ll be sitting a lot better. My hb are really lagging
nah bro i only have 5 wokes
I wish
2 HB tho
No whoran?
nope
I’m only 300 DI with 2/15 Levi. Forever away
Skylan diff
this pic was before i had alvida tho
ngl id rather have levi
Yeah me too. But still forever from him. Really hope I can swap hildy for him
Hooooooold
that would be really sick ngl
What is your nc time?
we don’t talk about that bro
I think with oddy top 200 is pretty stable for me, but top 50 is pretty unrealistic
Which kinda sucks
I’m hot garbage
I just want once for the frame 
i can’t beat 6 teams so ur doing better
You can beat 6. We can get there
slide ur teams lemme see
i’m missing talimar, pippa, thoran, and begris
I am merging Begris. Skylan can replace whoran in some capacity i would imagine.
lemme merc someone’s begris rq and then try and cook
Maybe wippa. Wippas team is so obscure though
Why I built him before wawkes. Not sure it was smart though
did u build zohra before fawkes was released or sum?
i got three free copies of her pulling with scrolls and like a dumbass just took that as a sign to build her
i built her after westy
damn L
meh, i dont think i am going to trade her. once i build wawkes she is pretty high on the prio list anyways. think im doing flora for lysander or selene if hb isn't allowed
HB better be fucking allowed i need levi
i also have 10 copies of begris, tavriel, and kregor but no fodder
i have begris and fodder, just waiting for si emblems for si30 at least before building
he only needs si30 even tho si40 is better right
so i hear. i have a coll ready. so when i get 300 emblems i wont need to merc his ugly ass anymore
i want melion too but i’m missing two copies
next event with 300 pulls you should finish him id imagine
yeah i’m annoyed waiting for the event tho
he wants 20930?
i hope that’s it but i see him e60 a LOT
im fine with e60 as long as no si30
For strength hero is the boots give the most hp?
🙁
i don’t have cores to spare
me neither but they replenish way faster than si emblems
resources are gonna make me insane
temporal rift reset comes wiht some nice cores in the coming weeks
how close to reso 18 are you?
You can free yourself from being insane by just stop competing 
far. reso 12, seal 18, treat 15
NEVER!!!
treat 18 will be huge for TS
Not really, most regions except 54 is over saturated with them by now
i just mean it will put him on level with other 18 treats
That's not good enough to climb though, people who managed to climb always have their own unique tricks to let then outsmart the rivals
It just means you're less likely to go down from where you are, unless your name is Hat, you fall regardless
Who, if anyone, should I put into legacy of grit?
How many days left, come back with 2 days or even final hours remaining
This isn't to trick you, to maximise grit effect leaving it as late as possible is the way
monday working feel great cos i overdid myself this week 
yeah makes sense, about 44 days
proud masterchef
I mean swapping out for someone you desperately need for progress is a thing but that's more for the smart players
I may end up plagiarising some of your stuffs ngl
idk i've been stuck for about a day now on 27-34
nah bigger Odys the better
I thought Randle Ivan means no stuck until 31
im most defenitly stuck
Don't worry I'll E8XSI45 tonight for next week
so its fine i survived this week and have time to wait for another 7 days
well never mind of course as start as i soon talking about it i get unstuck
stg put over 150 attempts in and couldnt beat it LMAO and I just did
up until like chapter 46 campaign was just changing my comps positioning 20 times, especially rem/daemia comp, until it finally worked
1 run to rule them all, only did 1 run on the collection total
what coll is that? thane?
Oh oops
It's meta for twisted realm
Unfortunately seems unused in any other modes
Should have picked Thane by the way
Lmao no way to say I would have had the same luck choosing a diff coll
You're not confident enough, real men face adversaries for breakfast and just win anyway
I already have a +2 3 atk thane. Just need 3 cda which will come with time. This is better bc now I have the best coll possible for this no runs needed.
who uses atk thane over cda thane/
Show me ur colls and then u can talk, for all I know you're on chapter 2
At least yunie is a chap 78 beast
what is your ts ranking?
1st in the galaxy
billions of galaxies they say
In other words he can't even get close to reach top 100
Lmao t20 akshually
Somehow I doubt it
so who uses an atk thane over cda? Still curious about that. I need to build a pp stack but no other thanes were on my radar
Nobody, it's just what I have on the acct lol
For some reason the person I inherited the acct from made a +3 3 atk, idk why. Would have loved if this one was a thane, but I've read its good on SJW in the Dims team so I'm gonna test it and see:)
Lowkey thought u were trolling me at first which is why I was messing with you back, my fault lmao
Oof thought you actually pulled it off on original account but nope, did you just move to this account and abandon your own
All the shitty colls on my acc were made by me, no excuses
LMAOOOO you're talking shit when you took over an acct too.... oh my
Like this beauty. Not sure what I was thinking putting a lvl card in this
Lmaooo that is rough. There are some crazy colls on the acct that even got recast. I have to slowly go thru and fix them and get what I can back.
=ratio
Who is this dude 
@cloud pollen do you know this guy? Who does bro think he is 
You clearly do not know who you are talking to lol.
How do I unlock coll next slot
Spend enough legendary totems on the collection
So I need to use enough legend totem when playing in gg?
The more bizzare totems u use after obtaining the coll the more slots u unlock, I think
@nova wharf @cloud pollen what is the problem with you 2?
Some random beefing apparently
Just doing random collections. If this is any good, who should I put it on?
Yep, exactly. Use enough legendary totems on that specific collection.
Don’t try and unlock them if you don’t need it though. You’ll get them over time usually
If I got new coll do I need to use enough legend totem again? Or I can directly use the 3rd slot
He is lost 
Rose isn’t great without +2. A watch is better
He has the rad tag lol. 
Ok thanks!
Should I take talene or the new tank
that remind me, i failed to make the ERR col for the 9th time but got the +2 Watch coll with 6M stats in like one run
Rip TwT
the ERR totem is just pure scam atp
Only gorren I think. Maybe as an alt if you don’t have enough cda.
=guide
Just need to double card 
Why do my equipped collections keep shifting around? Specifically with supports. Every 12 hours they will somehow just be randomly equipped
saved in other modes like TS
its a very stupid system
=wishlist
if you run campaign/tower/save a treasure scramble comp, they will keep shifting based on what you last saved. it's weird. just need to manually set them.
1h30m more and I'll be freeeeeeeeee.... To make Oddy bigger after seeing all these catastrophe from krakens trying to make it work without 5*
any chance I could steal your tav?
It's still around yes? Once I get home sure
Next round I probably have to recast that third IS

a very pregnant sheep injured her foot on a rusted off part of the fence, stabbed in between the hoof and the leg about 2-3 inches deep, so had to clean the wound and bandage it up 
well, the hardest part was catching the mf

You da goat
What do I do here I failed at floor 9

Is that even the right collection?
Running behind sheep??? 
nah chasing it around the small yard she was in
Ooo small yard not baddd
chat which should i pick erosion or f atk for this lvl 3 raphael
but yeah that injury was definitely scary, looking from the right side u could see some blood dripping off her foot but couldn't see the injury, looking from the left her entire food was red 
keep it how it is. that is a good f2p elthara collection.
anyone i should e60 ?
i havent etch this yet
have to pick one to complete the coll
Who should I make e60? Or I should just wait for more hero
U need 2 lv too so the run need to give at least 1 M Err or 1 Lv , the later is easier to happen tho
knox as first to gaze to 1 star?
What's what in the guide
Also what chapter r u
29
My Knox is 20060 and can solo but can be harder for stage with flora+healer or immune. I'm currently at 224 lvl deficit
@blazing garnet w mutual
WWW
ohhh alr alr
eorin for jerome, zolrath for lysander (???)
shemira for gorok maybe?
talimar eventually. for now save for next high prio
jerome and gorok want e30 though
wait, probably woke or liberta next e60
How about the last grit?
Should i use my pulls for anyone? I have a lot
unless you are running out of time i would save them for later
eorin for jerome you can probably do now, or maybe si30 eorin if you have ivan and randle done already and then grit to jerome since jerome eventually wants 30930
I would have 2 e60 before any if them ascended

save them then

you will use them eventually
Should I finish selene or start daemia now
you should probably grit selene for a better hero if you havent used them all
@cloud pollen you there?
Ok how should i use my pulls?
pulls? you mean faction summons?
I should change my selene? 😭
i havent byuilt selene yet and im chapter 51. and i think im building lysander next before her still
Ok then to what hero? Lib?
Can someone add me and lend me thier hearies like Selene example or area damage gearoes
whatever the =gsprio shows
=sgprio, cant spell
Stargazing Priorities:
Can’t answer that unless you show your box. Follow the build order previously shared
- Knox
- Daemia
- Aurelia
- Liberta
- Alna
- Lavatune
- Orthos
- Selene/Lysander
Selene is playable in camp, ts, nc and cr so she is not bad, but her prio is not super high
Lib second?
E60 Knox or Fawkes
finish your wawkes up imo, then do knox
Ok ty
im wrong, guide says knox then wawkes
@shy crescent lib charm is bit really used right?
lib charm has been used in camp for my entire time playing, still is for me
but liberta has dropped off tons in TS, near useless
Hi 9 minutes before I head to the road and then try to make alt and mini NC work
I already have 5 comp and envy just need to be mythic, so lib charm is not really needed right now?
Isn't m30 enough?
I mean for the comp to just work
i would go in the order the guide has. you will use it eventually i imagine. it is a very cheap comp that has a lot of interchangable pieces
=guide
I hit NC already
just liberta + mehira is needed, gorren, aethus and tamrus are all changable, although those are the standard 3
no idea
Maybe I'll just continue building selene then use grit at last day, got 1 more
get more advice, but i think it would be smart to grit her for daemiia or aurelia, whoever is next in your build that you don't already have multiple copies of
Does Aurelia already past 60 days?
?
aurelia is a bad bitch, she just requires si40 and a good collection
Another typical libcharm build
Like the swap scroll, it said newly released hero can't be exchanged within their first 60 days
probably could get away with E+ Brutus, E+ Canisa, E+ Lyca, E+ Mehira and Liberta at lower chapters
But I need to make Knox si40 first
yeah, that means you cannot swap selen for like harvey
I'm at 38, do u think that'll work too?
probably some times, other times it might need aethus, or tamrus, or whatever. camp is weird just change comps constantly and see what works
e+ lucilla is also decent, libcharm works well with E+ heroes
well E, not E+
Does the + made difference for the comp
no, just bad habit since i usually think in terms of 4f
Brutus and Lyca prolly E+ whereas lucilla and canisa probably are E
Aurelia has been out for years, long past the 60 day mark
Oh I thought she's new
Nope. Not even close
the only hero that disqualifies right now is harvey afaik
cause you aint swapping for dracula
Does Aurelia m30 made difference?
Ica too I think
icariel, for sure
M30 does nothing for her. M20 until you can go to M40.
And really she needs a full build of 409e60
Same thing with Knox huh
daemia wants si30
No reason to rush. Just chill out
Since when 
She isn't usable in TS at 20 is she?
Last I knew her min was m20. Could’ve changed
really old, but:
Daemia
Usage: TR,TS,NC,CR
Minimum investment: M20
Optimal investment: 30 9 e41 (atk/ magic pen crit/ magic pen insight)
Maximum investment: 30 9 e60
Gears recommendation: T4 Weapon/ T4 Hat/ T3 Armor/ T4 Shoes
You be rude and mean
i be kind and loving
just think of all the pandas ive sent
wow mean
why would it reccomend t3 armor over t4 armor?
You sent more stickers than panda posts recently here so…invalid
for people who are poor on T4 resources
its not my fault xhs doesnt let me download 90% of the panda videos
It’s saying don’t waste a t4 stone early. You can skip it
ok
$$$
Can she deals damage?

idk what money has to do with this 
unless youre telling me to fly to china, illegally smuggle red pandas, start a red panda sanctuary in my backyard, and then take videos of them to send you
daemia buffs team dmg and ult amkes team unable to die for short time

she does dmg but not a ton. she is coupled with a carry
historically with rem early game, not sure who now
can but not her primary use
This sounds like an excellent plan
I'll see how's things work maybe I'll grit selene with her
great can you send some of that gacha budget to help get it off the ground
It finally happened! 8 Shemiras in purple stones. Which character is the best option to trade them with? Gorok, Atheus, Palmer, Talimar or alvida?
is it still worth it to pull normal pets after reso 18?
Hi I finally got randle what team can I build now with this ?
=campaign
=earlycamp
What chare you on?
Ch*
神女-sama 🧎♀️
7-21
Any chance you have a fat bergs free
Keep your current lineup; you're fine with Solise for now. Try to get more copies of Randle.
the 3 first formation is solo gorren lol
Is your bergs fat?
i dont add randle ? maybe i can ivan, randle and solisen and the other i take grave heroes no ?
What does this even mean?
Begris you mean????
You could use it, but at first, while you're getting more copies, Solise is fine.
Yes
Like this ?
3 support, 1 dps and 1 tank
when i have a better tank maybe i can switch

All three comes with 5TY, two of them is 409E60
@olive jewel Almost got you mixed up with another guy
if you always save enough bait for all potential woke pet upgrades it can still be worth
before i grit, do i need to ascend them at all?
No
@olive jewel By the time I hit on Kisaka you got pushed down by 5 spots 


Arise has new coll guide @drowsy terrace
What I have is vietnamese ver so hope u can find the english ver and add
Anyone who does Lib Marci r6 how do you make it work
omg you’re 1th in three modes !!

i will not be looking, but if you find an english version i'll add it
=ratio
arise what is that
Time to just upload and run through google translate and then outputting nonsense 
Why you not in TDFS discord
=guide
What's TDFS oh right right, you know how I left on old account? And then things happened and now on new account? I didn't rejoin because I don't got a link 
I mean FS is not exactly like Nihi with easy to remember custom name
5m def
409+60 misha anyone
I got a maxed one thank you
Ded chat
@glass zephyr you alive
Nah
I only have 309e60 Misha
@drowsy terracego
just asking bcs i read that someone said to upgrade sup first
Now we play the waiting game
xD
what should i expect?
wait till a reply comes or ask again later
aight
=guide
outdated
feels like i asked a taboo question xD
supp/mage/cele 27 (in this order)
warrior 15/tank 25
supp/mage/cele 47 (in this order)
supp/mage 77
cele 77
something like that. it depends overall.
Should I be patient or should I build stinky MP coll 
build build build (no clue)
I think patient new supp coll should be out by the time this CR comes back 
(I'm heavily coping)
Which lightbearer can i focus on?
whats shuna investment?
SI20 atm
oki
Or should i just continue stacking until something i can get above celestial?
no
:(
no i dont play the game
also genuine question, why does the guide not talk abt Fantastic Beasts, you get loads of stuff from there
Idk if that new snickerlang is good or not
in general woke pet need to leveled high to be good
Wait for palmer 5 e+ copies or whichever gets 5 e+ copies first jerome, palmer, alvida

you can get all the rewards without having a good pet
But we do so you gotta do smth
You have the role for a reason
you can't get 3 star on all the stages but you can get enough to get all the rewards with just 2 stars
and 200 gems every stage
only downside is that you can do 80 stages at max every week
Is it better to use your best pets you have for it? I wasnt able to get 2 star off some stages
i just noticed we play on the same server :D
Do candy crush too
well that is smth ou have to figure out yourself which pet is best
Ohh? You have the same name as there?
there's only 1 stage i wasnt able to get the last reward so far
Kuddechkaa
Well idk.. i just bought what i can
holy fuck you have that at lvl 9
Its a 1 week account
you whaled more than me
same as mine , literally 1 week
@harsh acorn
look at mine xD
That floating pet is so cute, it is the most useful i think
send friend request btw :D
Treatspector
well a bit too late for him xD
You sent? I dont see it
just sent
I saw the frame so i knew 
buncha krakens in the chat smh
Im f2p
Wtf kraken spotted
krakens?
number 1 kraken spotted 
🫵 
But my name says f2p 
but how did you do to have snickerfang lvl 9 lol
and is it good at your level?
oh it means bigger whales xD
I only trust mcwhare 

xD
yea nah
the tree really is just level sup and mage
i did whale a bit for the roulette
W dan
That's one of the better events to whale
Whale out all the DG
Not that I would ever of course, since I have f2p in my name
I followed the krarara guide
there's an imposter among us
That reminds me
I need to hit NC on alt
i have spent 300 euros xD thats enough of my paycheck thrown into it xD
Anyone enjoying this NC 
my CR is so stinky this week
Nah it's pretty ass
I'm prolly gonna drop out of t50 since no ody merc this week
very easy R8 just dont have oddy 
I can't handle missing two highborns
🫵
i did it no excuse for u
wait im gonna have to rehit but my stinky elthara round doesnt want to give me my 6s
what are they 
Well not really, im using other pets than this one, only useful if i want to push the tower since there is a power requirement
Wtf 6s elth?
oh nice
no it should be faster by 6s 
btw how much should i save before pulling for another dragon?
R3? I gave up run envy there and elth r5
Highborn? 700
Lan, guide has a section on that yep
I tested both variations elthara R3 is just overall better for me currently especially when I get lucky 
literally only got one copy of elthara after like 60 pulls so rn i have saved only 2 :D
so i should wait to have 700ish before pulling for Lan
Yep
thats gonna take quite a bit
Yeah unfortunately
This nc is not fun 
whats the best way of getting dragon insignas?
you aiming for top 50?
or the only way
=help
yeah on the r8 acc its just small tree that’s messing things up for me
yeah, I wish you best of luck 
From nightmare corridor you can get up to 10 a week
Otherwise buying out the dragon ship when a new highborn releases
I wish I had my own elthara so I could just lower her haste instead of relying on luck 
i dont think i've unlocked nc yet
gotcha ty
If you want to whale, @open oyster is part of one of the biggest guilds and they have optimal whaling guides
actually, best way is Dragonforge Trial
Super kraken guild that has lots of krakens who actually spend wisely
new players dont have any chance getting DIs from NC nowadays, better focus on easier content
unless u are someone name suavere with a lv29bunih
yes, I am one of the few f2ps hovered by the BIGGEST of krakens that sometimes have f2p in their name

when do you even unlock NC?
when u got like 25 or 30 A heroes, i forgor
30 iirc
oh im rly far away from that
but dont worry about it, u wont get DI from that mode anytime soon
is it cross servers or only against the people from the same srvr?
can you already garrison dracula btw if someone's got it?
or do you need to wait for the event to finish?
she won't be in garrison, but in stores
like merlin and others
oki
So i’m following the beginner guide and have just unlocked Knox via stargazing, do i keep pulling for him then? It says until 1 star but idk how many copies i need for that?
10 copies
its a game mode where u compete with a whole NC Region
you need 16 copies to get a celehypo to 1 star
10 copies is mythic+ for celehypos
Okay thank you, is knox good at a single copy? I’m currently running
Rem
Alvia
Ivan
Palmer
Lyca
math is not mathing
since u are new u will be assigned to Region 8, which has like 190 servers combined with ppl has been playing for 4 years
DAMN
R40 isn't 4 years old 
and only the top like, 5% got DIs
HOW TF IS A NEW SERVER SUPPOSED TO COMPETE
you can't use fodder to get them to L, M, and M+ like you can with 4f heroes, you instead have to use 2 copies of the hero to get them there
that's the catch you don't
ye, u wont
That is true
Yeah you don’t
Deadass one bad boss cycle and ur di is gone
better focus on the Dragonforge Trial which u can get 30 DIs / month
This is like the second time grumble dropped from di
a supreme pve game mode
im literally stuck at the 3rd battle
same
third battle requires a second 1 copy highborn
i haven't upgraded any dragon horn things yet
ye well
pleaseeee give us R9 NC lilith
kisaka downvoted 
classic 
she hates new players
well the new server is gonna take ages to catch up
that's why kisaka is the GOAT
I might genuinely be the only f2p in the top 200 right now 
so are u loler because u are top 200 or are you top 200 because you are loler?
no I am gonna fall out of top 200 in a few minutes because I'm loler 
so are you loler because you are %er NC or are you %er NC because you are loler


I have a few ways I can keep top 200 but not worth the 1 DI 
@open oyster What you said motivated me to hit once more even though it's an expensive round
I seen you are like rank 140 or so now 
i saw a lot of ppl doing up to 900 dias reset already
I mean trial is going to run out eventually anyway, may as well yolo
such chaos
@open oyster What you said motivated me to hit once more even though it's an expensive round and I didn't improve at all, I'm suing you for the 700 diamonds back
@open oyster 130
@loler (Top 100% TS) What you said What you said What you said What you said
@open oyster
Wh-wh-wh-what did she say? (J-J-J-J-J.R.)
Mm whatcha say?
Mm that you only meant well?
Well of course you did
Mm whatcha say?
(Jason Derulo)
Mm that it's all for the best?
Of course, it is
I (I) was so wrong (Wrong) for so long (Long)
Only tryna please myself (Myself)
Girl, I (I) was caught up (Up) in her lust (Lust)
When I don't really want no one else, so no
I know I shoulda treated you better
But me and you were meant to last forever
waiting on the fodder
get fodder 
keep him in till 5 stars
ivan needs all the attack he can get so adding stars is worth it
Someone needs to remove your role
A raine aswell yay
it's the perfect guide if you have the perfect heroes
i do need to engrave him right?
yeah e30
tree guide is very simple: just max every branch and rest tree for NC if orthos round
ok first i keep the stuff for knox tho
if you’re close yea
im not close at all xD i just got knox to L
new players needing too much handholding
. Kisaka was right all along
let the weak perish 


I think we should kill and cannibalize (with hammers) everyone in this server that doesn't have a blue name
wts (we need to get hat a blue name asap to save them)
- Worse collections overall
- A lot worse tree stats
- Missing heroes here and there
- No CDA on dancer
- Less slots on vault
- Worse pets
- FATK vault missing one FATK
- No good ATK flight
- Significantly worse ERO thunder
- Less IS on bounty

tbf i need another dmg dealer for second squad , first im gonna throw elthara in with the wilders
how is that possible when it's not f2p account and like a year older than me 
was thinking AFawkes but heS WEAK
It actually is F2P except clippy went for both Skylan and Leviathan
it's not f2p, I went skylan and levi too
What time did you get in NC
clippy told me they spend on it 
1:43 or something with cheats that won't save me when trial expires
Oh nevermind 1:52.48 I suck

I thought you were meaning clip for a second
He lied
lool nah, clip still plays
nvm this actually worked
But interesting challenge nonetheless
btw i learnt something this time too
merc unit dont change CMBR at all, i was burning dias for nothing
holy fuck this actually works xD
newbies are so spoiled these days
so are u gonna eat them
wdym :(
When I was on 31-8 I had to beat it with nothing but a lvl 1 regular shemira and a Dreaf
ooh yeah, clippy had another account that was given to them, I mixed up the two mb
ok actually not that bad since it's f2p
im literally trying my best and even if i asked no one's rly telling me how to progress xD
i do get some advice here and there but you know
Everyone writes their own destiny
lmaooo
exactly
Actually I think Bungie is the developer of the hit popular video game franchis "Destiny"
Deliberately not capitalise it to avoid lawsuit
ok everyone writes their own destiny 2
Two different products 
If Destiny 2 was so good then why haven't they made a Destiny 2 2 yet?
if you can't copy formation because you are missing heroes from formation tab/can't copy formations given in infographic guides, then there isn't much info anyone can give. You would have to make the team
Oh
u need to ask him if he know how to copy formation first
i forgot you can copy formations
Destiny Tutu
i just try different stuff until i get it right
I dont have that dragon lady yet 
(buds a big fat whale that can beat a stage by throwing in his 5036100 misha and lvl 36 pony)
If you can't fully copy comp, treat it as a learning session trying to improvise and improve your own knowledge of which heroes works similar
Or even come up with your own science research and use someone else
I remember spending hours with tomitake flash pushing stages because that's when they first released rem in garrison, so no one to copy 
Alot of nitro boosters in chat and yet somehow we still don't have our shiny names
well rn i figured out a working comp
it might not be the best but it works
I am stuck here tho
now I am stinky lazy and don't even push to powercap 
@open oyster @grave hollow what timezone are yall in I feel like I can see either of you active at any time of the day
switch mira and the raccon guy and maybe put rem insted of the racoon idk
as long as it pushes stages that's all that matters
. keep doing it until you get randle. Then do it again and again 
is randle that necessary?
MST. I really should go to sleep but I am waiting for calc 
randle is one of the best camp heroes atleast early on
he was a pretty good carry until i got elth
also I am sick so I am not going to work 
The history of broken early camp carries went something like:
Ainz -> Ivan(yes he was considered a 'carry' because his support power was so op he could turn anyone into a carry) -> rem -> randle -> knox -> 1 copy elthara
bud skipped daimon wts
oh right
Well either way, there isnt any recommended formation for me and all of them recommend i need Elthera
So i am doing this formation blind with what i have
u can check my timezone in Nihi bud, im still at work but today work is kinda not so busy so i got time to wandering around
I mean there's plenty of stuff left out, like shem, I know asol/abrut were also pretty massive back in the day and ashem more modern times
gorren was also a early game carry for like a month
I don't feel like checking nihi bud
why aren't you using rem
, or is she dead nowadays
I think she's moved down the nub dim prio
AShem was rly good
yeah but they already have rem garrisoned so might as well use surely
i got her to A1 on my other acc and she was literally doing the most damage and tanking the most
Well she isnt actually fully invested.. SI10 still
And she dies first one
same as talene , i just basically used her as flesh shield to tank most of the first attacks
Get her to +20 and put her on a team with +30 ivan or A20 jerome
Well time to get Elthara 
DONT WHALE
Ohh my jerome is still E+ tho, is it worth getting him up Celestial now?
up celestial? Do you mean is it worth ascending him? If you have 8-10 copies
I havent used my scrolls i got yet. I was waiting to save em
he's a really good 4f, gives energy and buffs the carry
scrolls? you mean dragon insignias right?

Yes i have 80
only used in alvida burst and rem daemia
the issue is, there's many way better burst dps's that work in the alvida team, and she needs 9f to work in rem daemia, which takes a while to get
get ur L elthara copy
there is no real reason to garrison her before shalltear
this is the way
Me killing every non blue name in this chat and cannibalizing them
Guide told me to get rem second 
i never said anything about garrisoning rem
is purple considered blue
yes but only the deep purple of a real CS, not those fake apprentice CS
3 more days
3 more days before I leave server 
I’m kinda blue green so i stay alive right
german color gets killed, sorry
too bad that the feasting begins tonight
only correct colors are white/red
Time to eat Omega then
I used to believe in white supremacy too
until u contributed 

wait I remember weren't u also piss color 
pretty sure we used to call you piss color or something 
lol I had been told that nitro boosting was how you get blue
bud got scammed
I'd wanted blue since the beginning and nitro color used to be a more piss yellow color
Thank you, that helped a lot
yw
I remember u made a meme a long time ago that you editted a text on, was funny af
Why is she so broken, i should have summoned her way earlier 
as a new player should I still spend 18k gems on the beast wish leafs?
and how many of those should I save up before ever pulling for a pet btw?
Hello @errant sable,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
Not sure which you're meaning but I did just dig this up, sacred texts from our lord and savior
found it
there definitely wasn't another version and this was the original

this is why he levels solo
now it's lore accurate since they are both in the game 
solo leveling is in afk arena?
Yea Im not sure we even knew they were coming at the time
If you can afford it without slowing down your progression you should. Don't think you should do it right away though. It's really really important to get though
tbh at this point idek what my progression should be
I have two ascended and I doubt I can push enough to make that 5 anytime soon, mostly need fodder for a 3rd
not entirely sure how early game goes once youre out of spam clearing campaign and stuff
A few other memes I got saved from back then
that sukuna one was a classic 
wait you made that one for me iirc 
Euphy used to rage at that after bricking NC
I think my favorite period was when Golden still played and Cheetobean was just showing up and I'd rage bait Golden by accusing him of being Cheetobeaan

=guide
I still think you were one of the cheetobeans 
wts
Nah I never was but I did think golden was genuinely for awhile

It was weird cus golden was literally online 24/7 but never when cheeto was around
like literally months straight of those two never being in the same chat at the same time
the rank 1 yapper golden disappearing when cheeto is there, was indeed suspicious
wayment
rank 1 yapper 
Dubbbsy is actually just another Goldenmeal persona
All this time
the two biggest yappers, and one still yaps to this day 
Umm so omega is talking about his boomer past
boomer past was peak afk arena 🫵 
Eww boomer
That's not even my boomer past, my boomer past would be when Dolphin and I played in 2022/2023
Is Rem still the best first Garrison? I Garissoned Shaltear and its so trash. Unlike Rem that has so many utility
no rem isnt the best first garrison
yeah really strong in campaign, JD tested it. Then also converts better into TS
Then who is
follow guide
Im struggling at chapter 31 2nd team.
Shaltear? Since shuna is sup. Cant prior her
I imagine at ch31 you should have plenty of options these days.
Randle + ivan for a team
you probably should be close to M20 knox atp
L Elthara if you're lucky
I know Gorren was a decent carry for awhile if you have him ascended
If shall is used in early camp then she'd be a carry
Plus you have shuna as support and she's one of the best in the game. Plenty of options these days and you can alway default to copying
Remember to push faction towers, they provide a ton of sgs
Does anyone have any idea how this comp work? I can't replay it
Your giving too much credit as a chap 31 player. I only have Randle+IVan and some 4f ascended.
Still ill follow the guide then. I shall Garrison and Build shaltear . Thanks
After an ingame update or hotfix the replay expires, pretty sure thats the issue.
I know why the replay can't be played I wanna know how those comp work
Like maybe after tamrus group them they got stunned or something?
Same same
If you saw replay it would explain it in a way lmao
@naive echo does Ashem protect teammates or anything? I saw someone who pair her with randle and can win without ivan
Idk that I am. I'm an f2p player and I took notes for when certain things happened. I had M30 liberta at ch32. By how power creep works we know that early game allows for faster and further progression than I had in 2024. Meaning you should likely be able to get the sgs to get knox to M while in ch31 if you're properly pushing KT, voyages and PoT
We also just got a TRift reset which means even more sgs
How does lib m30 doing there
Back then he was #1 celpog, he's not anymore
so he was good at the time, he'd still be 'good' but knox is considered better
I progressed so hard that i only have 2 heroes in my arsenal
I made mythic selene and can swap her if I wanted to, should I swap her with Aurelia or daemia as in the guide?
wat

no
Ok
Any semi comp guild i can join ?
=te
Woke Prios and TE income:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
m20 knox does fuckall in camp
also it's rare to have mythic knox in ch31
Rare? So commonly they have at ascended?
lots of people have him L or L+ by then
Well I know that literally the entire argument of knox being moved to #1 in prio is how good of a camp carry he is so 
yes but he's bad till e60
Oh my expectation too high
I don't think that's true, there's a reason the guide says to pull lysander when knox is M
Before e60 mine can work solo but even better after e60
he's first prio because he's always bis in ts and once you reach e60 on him, he's essentially used forever in campaign
I think I used him before even ascended with lys
at least till like the mid 40's
Why 40? Is that because of the level diff or what
it's so when your knox is built, you don't have to wait another week to be able to use him because you don't have lysander
knox don't work without lysander in camp even when built
Why are you a selene glazer
U don’t just throw him in seal? 
Yeah he deal like literally no damage
before seal 15 that ain't gonna work very well
Oh yeah I got seal 18 like month 3
i mean fair because reso 6 tricking
I didn’t even reso trick I just whaled bait

I stopped doing it tho
because big red beam go brr
Cuz my funds are running low, I’m on maintenance mode
guys i just get back playing after a break, and most guide recommend her equal as shuna. is she good? what exactly her speciality. should i build her first over shuna or what
i was there when shuna released so i know she's good, but idk about this one
You didnt use SG for her right?
What is SG?
=garrison
What is Garrison?
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256
So I did some fact checking M knox E lys and lvl 6 treat should be able to clear in ch33 and you should be 1* your celpog around ch34 generally, so for the period of time in which you have M knox he should work from what I've seen.
Usually people say Shalltear first and in my opinion she is way better because she has made it way easier to progress in campaign and Kings tower
FUCK NO
Stargazer the currency you use to pull for celehypo heroes

first of all m knox gets destroyed in ch33 so that part is just wrong
What? No
I got it from the 60 epic shards
Who told you that 😭
second of all you need insane luck to get level 6 treat in ch33
some would consider it bad luck actually since level 6 seal would be better
@prisma carbon
she's damage dealer i assume? so she need high build?
The guy who made knox #1 prio
DPS yes but even without high build i only have her SI20 and she is helping me so much
he's just saying random shit lmao
knox m20 definitely doesn't work in ch33
okay thanks for the info man, i'll get her first before shuna
It really depends im saying in my case
If you can get 200 dim shards to get both that will be the best outcome
i had knox A with si20 in ch33 and he did nothing without alvida
You're probably just doing it wrong, the guy is known for being good at camp 
he's terrible till e60, then he's good for like 10 chapters straight
She wont really be helping much since she needs Liberta for the combo buffs or whatever they got going on there
being good at the game doesnt make the hero super broken
Well I’m new to the game
Just got to chapter 26
And stuck
I thought she might help
she's not even used in lib teams lol
back then i can manage my resource to do 2 garrison at the same time, hope still able to do that now
Ye useless just like i though
lucilla been dead for a while now
She will just get 1 tapped lol
well i think she has cheat deaths
Bruh 😂😂😂
Doesnt make it better 😭
When liberta was #1 prio he was ass in campaign but worked in a very specific comp utilizing a single copy of mehira.
If you do the comp wrong or don't use the comp at all you'd think that liberta was an ass hero, but someone was really good at camp and made liberta the best celpog due to said comp.
Aka, if you don't do the knox comp correctly you'd think he's ass too
there's no way to make the knox comp wrong lol it's the most straightforward thing ever
- some heroes need to be build up to actually be doing smth
knox frontline, lysander middle back line, rest random lv 1 hypos, if it doesn't work throw in misha
Bros just yapping to be yappin
anybody with any knowledge whatsoever about campaign teams knows how to make knox work
Maybe if you got it WAY WAY earlier she could of help abit but at c26 she is gonna get 1 tapped even with the cheat death and will be destroyed
idk I haven't used the comp myself I'm mostly relying on the word of another but I trust the word of the person who invented the comp and justified it enough as to move knox to #1 prio over some randos who say it doesn't work cus it didn't for them 
Lib comp was harder to make working for me idk. Knox is way easier. Put him put Lysander and pray. And in most cases it worked xD
Bruh
This is my 5th day in game
Anyway
Thxx
Usually from what ive seen Knox does pretty well on his own when build up enough
lib charm requires a lot of tinkering with the frontline i think right
Tbh I would not try it again untill I have built ashem xd
Kind of, there's also just a shit ton of variations to the comp. Tbh it's alittle similar to knox in the way that it's 2 core units and then the rest is just to help the 2 core units survive or buff them
I wish you luck and hope you didnt make big mistakes 😄
Btw are these 2 heroes good?
I have 6 copies of each one
Usually kept for grit
I mean simona is fine. And bronn is fine being fused with dim for me xd
=grit
Legacy of Grit Information:
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=grit
Legacy of Grit Information:
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I was told its usually kept for grit but i made her A and hooked her up to Shall which was a mistake to make her A but it turned out well
And bronn grit to i can prob grit him to Gorok just waiting for 2 more copies to make Grom straight to A*
I still don’t understand what grit means 
=grit
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basically if you have 8 copies of raine, and 1 copy of mira for example, if you grit raine to mira, you will end up with 1 copy of raine, and 8 copies of mira
Oooooh
Basicly if you have 1 copy of E+ of lets say Alvida and you have 5 copies of E+ on Bronn when you grit you get 5 copies of Alvida still the same tier E+ and Bronn you will only have 1 Copy of E+ it also swaps SI E and everything else
That’s nice
When do I unlock this feature?
You have it
Chap10
Where??
it also transfers things like furniture and signature item so avoid gritting to heroes that have more than like 4 pieces of furniture
Events
Oooh
Wait so
I need some copies of mira
Who should I grit to get mira copies
wait till last few days of the event before using any of your chances
If you know what you are doing you can grit early
you can grit to alvida early if you have absolutely no way of making a second team in ch31
But it depends on alot of factors
I have alvida
Like i said it Depends
Yeah I get you
Just wait
I think I’m just too low level right now
And need to afk or get scrolls
I'm currently at chapter 38 and almost 39 if I push hard, so is 236 level deficit high? If not then I should be able to push more
lvl 236 what?
deficit is relative to ur current lvl^^
@river shuttle Did you ditch this
uh nah, i was just busy
Slide me it i will grind for you

No cap fr
236 level difference between me and the campaign enemy
is this beatable with a week old f2p account?

in whgat regard
I dont judge by that i just play and see if it works
@olive jewel Sheesh you narrowly missed out by less than 1s
Define 'beatable'
@open oyster You dropped as well... 
Must fall to get back up stronger
(my 6 month wait for anni swap is close to over)
You may now swap to Texas Ranger
look at mister kraken
20% CR, improvement


