classic-questions

[charred jetty]

You said to not have it

Or just different order?

[solar fractal]

For early players yes

[hybrid breach]

honestly you should be getting 9f on basically every celepog and woke regardless, theres very few commonly used heros id actually advocate skipping pushing past 3f

[charred jetty]

Because Knox doesn’t need it after early game

[charred jetty]

What about Fawkes

like lowkey

[hybrid breach]

fawkes 9f is his mp buffs no?

[inner olive]

carding him to 9f seems unnecessary but mp scaling

[charred jetty]

Reason being it’s really hard for new players to actually get meaningful MP

[charred jetty]

It’s MP based buffing

[glossy hare]

“Get all heroes 9F” check ✅

[prisma carbon]

So we got 2 #1 CS but who is the real top 1?

[charred jetty]

But again they don’t have much MP

[drowsy terrace]

Me

[inner olive]

update the furn guide =furn

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911949525614644

[prisma carbon]

Dubs

[charred jetty]

But nah should just get anyways

[drowsy terrace]

Incorrect

[charred jetty]

Same theory as Knox

[solar fractal]

All those hero’s have higher prio than Knox 9f + future celepo or wokes they are gonna get

[hybrid breach]

its still nice to have especially with you guys pushing him as a solo carry, any minor benefit in that scenario is good. im not saying card it but keep him on till 9f

[charred jetty]

As a solo carry just boost the damage

[prisma carbon]

Didnt mean the person the word

[charred jetty]

Yeah

[hybrid breach]

me obviously?

[inner olive]

shuna not higher prio than knox ngl

[charred jetty]

The one that really doesn’t need 9f is shuna

[solar fractal]

I mean what’s the point jd always gets his way smh

[drowsy terrace]

Not true

[prisma carbon]

@solar fractal beef

[inner olive]

shuna furn in general is literally just useless

[drowsy terrace]

But okay

[solar fractal]

…removing debuffs is very much worth

[charred jetty]

???

[solar fractal]

He got shemira

[charred jetty]

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1483248995483521054/image0.gif

[drowsy terrace]

Yea but he made valid arguments

[charred jetty]

You know it took me like 4 months to get Fawkes 1st

[drowsy terrace]

And we liked em more

[hybrid breach]

raine, and rim are really the only ones that come to mind

[solar fractal]

LMAOO

[charred jetty]

And everyone still hates me on the early dragon summon

[inner olive]

pov : you don't know what thrilling voyage is

[charred jetty]

Just ask dubbbsy

[hybrid breach]

terrible idea but im too lazy to argue with you on it rn

[glossy hare]

So this was a bad idea?

[hasty flax]

Imagine getting acs and not hitting me up

[solar fractal]

@hasty flax hi

[hasty flax]

Not hi to you bitch

[solar fractal]

You ignored my dm

[charred jetty]

Early game though?

[prisma carbon]

Im doin every one at 1t stars for that 2 TE then pushin past that 🙂

[inner olive]

do what you want with your money is all I have to say

[charred jetty]

I feel like pretty skippable

[hybrid breach]

pvp

[glossy hare]

Money. HA! You’re funny.

[charred jetty]

Especially when the 3f is like

She heals more

[charred jetty]

But can’t they just wait for debuff to wear off

Like the shuna skill is a periodic cleansing

[hybrid breach]

i mean no ones saying her furn is her most important part, her si30 and e30 are hard to beat, but its still a nice to have especially when you mirror match

[solar fractal]

Have you read her skills??

[charred jetty]

I did yeah

[prisma carbon]

=furn

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911949525614644

[charred jetty]

The 3f is actually really bad

[solar fractal]

She buffs based on healing

[inner olive]

no she doesn't

[charred jetty]

Apparently not

[prisma carbon]

What was the new furn command ts outdated

[charred jetty]

We read through last night

[inner olive]

none of her skills mention the heal stat in any way

[drowsy terrace]

=furnprio

whats the other command

[prisma carbon]

=furniture

[inner olive]

=furn

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911949525614644

[inner olive]

skill issue

[charred jetty]

Oh yeah the other thing is idk why people are saying icariel needs 409e60

[prisma carbon]

Ts outdated lil bro

[drowsy terrace]

no no the image

[charred jetty]

We read the kit, she’s legit a 209e30 hero

[inner olive]

bradar it's not a command yet

[charred jetty]

[drowsy terrace]

link me to the pick

i'll add it rn

[charred jetty]

40 makes sense to get because it’s insta ult

[hybrid breach]

bud she came out after i quit why are you asking me

[glossy hare]

That the name of the big bitty vampire?

[charred jetty]

But like bro people use her with sai

[charred jetty]

You don’t need insta ult when you have sai lol

[hybrid breach]

the rat lady

[charred jetty]

Nah that’s Dracula

[prisma carbon]

Knox 3f? 😭

[charred jetty]

Icariel is the new wilder

Apparently budget skylan

[glossy hare]

Oooh, I guess if you want her to work… but she isn’t great even fully invested lol. Tower hero.

[charred jetty]

And might not be worse than skylan when built

[drowsy terrace]

oh, still not building her

[inner olive]

yeah that part is wrong

[drowsy terrace]

cause i quit lol

[inner olive]

blame casual worst cs ever

[prisma carbon]

Shouldnt ot be 9f

[charred jetty]

For new players though

I mean no one is building skylan at this point in time

[glossy hare]

Everything should be 9F

[inner olive]

krakening final boss

[glossy hare]

I’m definitely not a kraken. Lol

[drowsy terrace]

interesting

[prisma carbon]

Ok boss

[inner olive]

ok grandpa

[solar fractal]

If it was up to me I would not have him in wishlist at all

[charred jetty]

But then sai is kinda overloaded

[drowsy terrace]

but it isnt

thank goodness

[inner olive]

now you're just ragebaiting

[prisma carbon]

??? 💀😭

[solar fractal]

Yall new players don’t get it

[drowsy terrace]

we made this guy cs btw

[charred jetty]

What why

[inner olive]

clueless or ragebait call it

[solar fractal]

His furn is useless

[prisma carbon]

Ye this is officially top 1 worst CS 😭💔

[inner olive]

breaking news 50% damage boost is now useless

[solar fractal]

Yes

[charred jetty]

Oh wait this 3f actually sucks

[inner olive]

what's next knox e60 is secretly useless

[solar fractal]

Yea

[charred jetty]

The 9f is important though

[drowsy terrace]

9f better

[prisma carbon]

Casual worst CS confirmed

[drowsy terrace]

so we keep 9f

[cobalt abyss]

he isn’t wrong

[hybrid breach]

[drowsy terrace]

like a 48% dmg boost is nothing to scoff at

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474037037634945064/image0.gif

[inner olive]

also doesn't knox keep all his stacks of panic for the whole game when he's soloing

so it's basically a permanent 48% damage boost

[prisma carbon]

L ragebait

[solar fractal]

Even the stats are useless only good thing is dodge which like eh

[charred jetty]

The other huge thing you are overlooking is the panic

That’s the argument that grumble had actually

So default he caps out at 3

9f gets him 4

Every stack of panic reduces the toolkit buff by 0.5s

And gives him 20 haste and 10% DR

[solar fractal]

Bud don’t you have Knox on the Benno acc? Why don’t you go test lol

[charred jetty]

You mean the new one?

[solar fractal]

Just remove furn and add and see the difference

[charred jetty]

He’s like E

[solar fractal]

Wts

[inner olive]

9f knox : gifted power

3f knox : pure effort

[charred jetty]

3f is useful too for situations where your team oit survives Knox

Which is not super common in early game for obvious reasons

But later on is probably useful

If you use like Knox flora for instance

Just to stall a bit more

[torpid seal]

i agree

[drowsy terrace]

your opinion is noted and ignored

[torpid seal]

[charred jetty]

If you are telling me much faster buffs + 20 haste + extra additive 10% DR is useless on a solo carry im just going to ignore you

So he has 3 by default right

That means the 4th stack reduces damage from 70% to 60%

That’s an effective 15% DR

[molten ingot]

yall be playing companions to?

[prisma carbon]

Holy yapper

[charred jetty]

For a solo carry

[prisma carbon]

Ofc not 💔

[charred jetty]

Like his team is literally him

[solar fractal]

I mean can also add 9f it doesn’t matter that much furn is free

Not that deep buds

[hybrid breach]

ew

[solar fractal]

But I still think you should test jd

Numbers don’t mean shit in this game

[charred jetty]

I mean they do in TS though

I get what you mean though, practical more important

[inner olive]

i tried it but it's too boring imo

you get stuck so often in early game and it's hard to get a good duo

[charred jetty]

Shalltear 9f is huge what the heck

[solar fractal]

I mean when ppl read saitama skills everyone said he’s trash look at him now

[charred jetty]

People said he was Alna 2.0

And he turned out to be Alna 2.0

Also btw

[solar fractal]

Way better

[hybrid breach]

the real fraud was raoul

[charred jetty]

What about sai Selene early game

[solar fractal]

You don’t see Alna used in arena before

[charred jetty]

2.0 implies better

[inner olive]

sai with literally any dps works early game

[cobalt abyss]

selene not a great idea for early game

[solar fractal]

And look at the diff wr between Alna Skylan and sai Skylan

[drowsy terrace]

howcome?

[charred jetty]

I was doing some testing last night, Selene is like actually very respectable dps

Idk in TS though

[solar fractal]

She’s meta in rift as well

[inner olive]

someone gotta test

[charred jetty]

And my Selene is obviously crappy invest

[solar fractal]

Alna Selene op

[inner olive]

no she only needs 20330/30330

not really a crappy invest

[cobalt abyss]

when nemi(guildie)was testing her in ts r54 she couldn’t perform well till e60 si30 apparently and honestly quite the steep invest if that’s the case

[hybrid breach]

late game more is nice to have on her

[solar fractal]

Actually Robin Hood is also meta in rift with Selene

[charred jetty]

Like I’m missing 40, 9f and e60

[solar fractal]

Alna Selene robin dae skri

[drowsy terrace]

ah fair enough

[charred jetty]

All three are huge dps buffs

[inner olive]

fuck does robin do

[solar fractal]

Build him and find out

[drowsy terrace]

think he steals energy and cc's

[charred jetty]

He literally is just placeholder

[drowsy terrace]

dont remember cause he was used so long ago

[solar fractal]

Cr meta

[charred jetty]

He might as well be ulmus and you still build him

He just happened to also have a little niche

[hybrid breach]

was r6 was it? i cant remember

[charred jetty]

The point is just you unlock dimblems in lab store

[solar fractal]

No idea xD

[charred jetty]

I hope Dracula gets added to lab store

[drowsy terrace]

it was

[charred jetty]

Wow the lab store choices suck in 2026

[hybrid breach]

idre r6

[drowsy terrace]

dont clearly remembe rthe dps

ah it was gwyn

[charred jetty]

I’m pretty sure that’s no longer the meta comp there

[solar fractal]

20b 😭

[inner olive]

they haven't made a new non collab dim in ages that's why

[hybrid breach]

159b that CR and 0.9%

[charred jetty]

Yeah

[inner olive]

could dracula bring back ashem

[drowsy terrace]

i dont think she really left bud

[hybrid breach]

bring back ashem? like she left

[drowsy terrace]

like sjw is right there

[solar fractal]

From 1st to 3rd

[hybrid breach]

1st to 3rd in new player woke prio doesnt mean she left bud

[inner olive]

going from 1st to 4th prio is pretty close to leaving

[drowsy terrace]

it isnt

[cobalt abyss]

And as dubbsy mentioned it’s better to have her late game

[charred jetty]

What if we drop envy from woke prio to later

Is that trolling

[drowsy terrace]

you havent seen watha's downfall

[prisma carbon]

Nah

[drowsy terrace]

yes

[hybrid breach]

the guide youre looking at is early game prio for wokes

[inner olive]

if dracula ashem ends up genuinely being a good early ts team that could be good

[drowsy terrace]

why would i not want a cannon?

[charred jetty]

I’m thinking because if SJW gets added

[hybrid breach]

"what if we moved the best woke in the game lower in prio"

[charred jetty]

SJW takes ashem

[inner olive]

or if sjw gets added

[solar fractal]

Then remove fawk not envy bud

[charred jetty]

Envy has no support for a long time

[charred jetty]

Fawkes too valuable early game

[solar fractal]

Nope

[inner olive]

then build alna earlier or sum

[hybrid breach]

misha shuna ivan?

[charred jetty]

I’m pretty sure Fawkes can solo envy comp if you don’t stack his comp

[hybrid breach]

are we just ignoring all the cheap early supports

[charred jetty]

Hmm true

[cobalt abyss]

if sjw gets added then shem would arguably be first prio and if saitama gets added envy would be first or well could work as first

[charred jetty]

I haven’t seen anything survive Fawkes panda without velu or westy or Levi

[hybrid breach]

you can realistically run envy fairly early without alna/sai imo bc everyone else is also running shitter teams

[charred jetty]

Hmm I guess SJW too

[cobalt abyss]

that’s also true!

[charred jetty]

But point is you need to stack a bunch of stuff together to actually beat Fawkes

Which means rip other teams for early game people

[hybrid breach]

fawkes is one of 7 teams?

[solar fractal]

Jd don’t let you fawk glaze make you believe envy is trash plz sir

[hybrid breach]

why are we that worried about 1/7th of ts

[charred jetty]

No but important team for early game

I’m talking about why Fawkes first

[charred jetty]

Nah I don’t think he’s trash

Just thinking about support allocation

[hybrid breach]

woke 1: solo
woke2: give a little love
sounds fine to me?

[charred jetty]

Because again TS camp are the only game modes early

[solar fractal]

Sjw>fawk
Envy>fawk

[charred jetty]

Aka it’s just TS

[drowsy terrace]

well rift to a degree

[tepid swift]

I started a new account a week ago i already got 2 awakened heroes in it 😄

[charred jetty]

Oh yeah rift

You’re right

But rift is very close to just camp

[drowsy terrace]

nice bud

[charred jetty]

Since we don’t run cc meta in camp anymore

[inner olive]

there's about a billion heroes that are good in rift tbf

[drowsy terrace]

but they need like 14 copie sto become very useful for you

[tepid swift]

True, but i got 1 of them close to mythic

[charred jetty]

Hmm maybe I should try pushing rift then

Because it’s like actually very respectable very similar now

[drowsy terrace]

this is true, but rift probably has the best resource acquisition early game besides misty

[solar fractal]

I mean rift is technically best rgm they have early game

[charred jetty]

Only difference is just IC doesn’t work in rift

[inner olive]

absolutely agree

[drowsy terrace]

like they are insane just starting out

[hybrid breach]

some heros in rift are kinda odd early on tho, like dae is kinda rip in early rip with shit beacons

just eats stab

[cobalt abyss]

To a certain extent yeah i agree it technically is

[charred jetty]

Oh

Even with Alna?

[inner olive]

yet another reason to build selene second

[drowsy terrace]

like dae actually costs

[charred jetty]

I haven’t played rift since s1 and s2

[hybrid breach]

yeah she leaves your entire team at low hp

[charred jetty]

Rift scarred me

And made want to quit

[hybrid breach]

so stab just

[charred jetty]

Yikes

Oh yeah hp carries over

[drowsy terrace]

it doesnt

[hybrid breach]

unless you have the beacons to reduce stab loss for low hp it just cooks you so fast

[charred jetty]

So you need stability on a whole new level

[drowsy terrace]

stability does

[tepid swift]

Should i push Envydiel or liberta? I've heard a lot of people saying liberta is good and when i check in the game it says that envydiel is good so i'm confused

[drowsy terrace]

hp doesnt carry over bud

[charred jetty]

People can’t die

[charred jetty]

Oh what

[hybrid breach]

low hp = losing stab = you cant push very far

[charred jetty]

Ok stab thing

[drowsy terrace]

dont look in game, look here

[solar fractal]

=tierlist

[gilded sapphire]

Looking for a Tierlist?

Tierlists are generally quite untrustworthy in this game, because there's too many nuances and different factors that make certain heroes good or bad for different accounts. As a general guide, use the links below:

• 4 Faction Heroes: =wishlist
• Celestials/Hypogeans: #994913771598389318 message
• Awakened Heroes: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
• Dragons/HB: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235, But generally avoid them in the early game

[charred jetty]

Idk what that is but sounds dangerous

[inner olive]

it's stam

[charred jetty]

[hybrid breach]

stability

[charred jetty]

Oh

What the

[inner olive]

oh i thought it was stamina

[drowsy terrace]

nah its stability

[charred jetty]

Rift you have to just DR meatshield up

[solar fractal]

When you drop to 0 you can’t play anymore and she makes you bleed

[charred jetty]

And healer spam

Which uh

Rip Fawkes

[inner olive]

what's dr ?

[charred jetty]

Actually is Fawkes good?

[hybrid breach]

the rough thing for new players is the floor 20 boss and needing aoe magic dmg to keep orbs back

[charred jetty]

Damage resistance

[drowsy terrace]

damage resist

[inner olive]

very op in rift even at 1 copy

[charred jetty]

But how is Fawkes good when his team just explodes though

[drowsy terrace]

yea, so they lowkey need one copy of zohra for it

[charred jetty]

[hybrid breach]

you really need to hope for like a zohra/atal/ashem beckon

[barren fjord]

graveborn wishlist early should be fine though

like mira, simona, randle, should be good enough if u get like one other magic one no?

[charred jetty]

Eh they can just beacon overpower

[inner olive]

use that one ts seal team

[hybrid breach]

are we out here suggesting simona

[charred jetty]

[solar fractal]

Yes he replaced zohra in lib des comp

[hybrid breach]

no they cant bc its a gimmick

[barren fjord]

IF YOU NEEED IT, YOU NEEEEEEEEED IT. lmao

[hybrid breach]

the orbs kinda need to be pushed back or it no work

[charred jetty]

Oh

Just use askri

409e60 enough

[drowsy terrace]

a newbie using askri???

[barren fjord]

you so right

[inner olive]

-50 te

[charred jetty]

Don’t need e80

[drowsy terrace]

buddy what are we even talking about?

[barren fjord]

oh if its not e80 then thats perfectly fine

[charred jetty]

Or I heard kaelon also works

[hybrid breach]

jds lost the plot

[charred jetty]

[inner olive]

??? calm down

[barren fjord]

i mean a good zohra would work too no?

[drowsy terrace]

get him outta her

[cobalt abyss]

Im just as lost

[tepid swift]

My account is good for TS and NC because i got 4 awakened heroes in the lists? Sooo envydiel

[solar fractal]

Mind you we were talking about Knox 9f…

[drowsy terrace]

one copy should be fine

blame jd

[hybrid breach]

do not pull one copy wokes

[charred jetty]

Oh yeah what do we think about zohra 1 copy

[barren fjord]

would elthara work lol

[hybrid breach]

just reroll beckons

[inner olive]

apart from aPippa she's the goat

[charred jetty]

Ok I know what dubbbsy thinks

[barren fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-wtf-i-guess-bro-man-i-guess-smh-gif-4106492938199795190

[cobalt abyss]

Bud

[drowsy terrace]

which 4 bud

[charred jetty]

Isn’t she like strong in NC

[inner olive]

and ts

[hybrid breach]

useless

[charred jetty]

Her SP is also quite strong

[drowsy terrace]

isnt that boss gone tho?

[tepid swift]

Belinda, Athalia, Lyca and Eugene

[torpid seal]

rift is not that hard guys .....

[charred jetty]

In TS with Fawkes or Knox solo

[barren fjord]

😭

[inner olive]

deadass bro

[drowsy terrace]

you go envy bro

[hybrid breach]

[drowsy terrace]

then fawkes

[tepid swift]

Alright so awakened Fawkes is my next target

[solar fractal]

@charred jetty that boss is gonna be gone in 5hrs chill bud

[charred jetty]

Oh?

[barren fjord]

gang did u just ignore levi

[charred jetty]

Ok that’s good

[solar fractal]

Rift ending today

[drowsy terrace]

great convo man

[hybrid breach]

besides rerolling beckons is a thing also is this the 3rd season of this boss already?

[drowsy terrace]

comes back in a week bud

[barren fjord]

😭 its tough out here being cs apparently

[molten ingot]

Did I guet lucky

[drowsy terrace]

its not like lilith even changes the bosses anymore

[solar fractal]

With new boss no

[tepid swift]

Where do i get fawkes?

[barren fjord]

yes

[drowsy terrace]

good one copy hero tbh

[charred jetty]

1 copy kalthin is nice

[drowsy terrace]

show me the boss

[hybrid breach]

it sticks for 3seasons to match rift frames

[solar fractal]

This one was new

[drowsy terrace]

send pic

[solar fractal]

Oh nvm 1 season left then

[drowsy terrace]

i want to see with my own eyes

[cobalt abyss]

Wasnt it the same as last season rift

[drowsy terrace]

like

[charred jetty]

Oh yeah dubs did you see the new NC boss

[drowsy terrace]

i know im not tripping

[solar fractal]

I thought this was 3rd season

[drowsy terrace]

it isnt

[charred jetty]

Literal oddy check

[hybrid breach]

when this boss came to rift we got 3 seasons worth of frames released that matched astral devourer design

[solar fractal]

So ig one more season till it’s gone

[hearty crag]

rift is hard for new accounts and sucks to spend 30+ mins to fail a run with bad beckon rng

[hybrid breach]

no i stopped paying attention after i stopped piloting nnoi

[inner olive]

skill issue

[charred jetty]

Oh ok

[tepid swift]

so it possible to get fawkes in the tavern or is he a hero only available in events?

[charred jetty]

You remember what oddy does right

[hybrid breach]

nope

[drowsy terrace]

well how early are you trying to push rift

like do you even have your celehypo built?

[hybrid breach]

nnoi didnt have and he wasnt used during the weeks i piloted so i didnt read the kit

[charred jetty]

Oh

[hearty crag]

knox 1star dae ascended

[drowsy terrace]

yes you can get him in the tavern

[charred jetty]

So basically he spam auto attacks with dragonspeak damage

[barren fjord]

knox into dae?

[charred jetty]

Now read that skill

[drowsy terrace]

dae is bricking you there bud, bit unlucky but it is what it is

[hearty crag]

ok gg dae

[torpid seal]

that is the new prio so wouldnt blame him

[charred jetty]

Has no stack limit mind you

[barren fjord]

what

[drowsy terrace]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

Stargazing Priorities:

#994913771598389318 message

[charred jetty]

Just infinite brrrrrrr atk

[hearty crag]

ppl on my server are hitting like 220 floors

[charred jetty]

Oddy practically spams that passive activation

[barren fjord]

holy it is the prio there

[solar fractal]

So I have to finish ody now

[drowsy terrace]

lads surely aure before dae?

[hybrid breach]

what about skylan microwave aoe atk is that dragonspeak

[charred jetty]

People said skylan too

[cobalt abyss]

Don’t tell me this is gonna be another drought for mercs like the kae merc situation

[drowsy terrace]

return of nyla

[hybrid breach]

he does a stupid amount of attacks overtime

[charred jetty]

Have to test

[solar fractal]

Wait is kae coming back to meta

[torpid seal]

but dont u need a good ero coll and heavy investment and new players prob wont have that

[drowsy terrace]

not really

[hearty crag]

def not aure how to hit si 40 so early

[drowsy terrace]

20960 doenst sound that expensive

[hybrid breach]

20360

[charred jetty]

Is it this thing?

[drowsy terrace]

yea that works too

[charred jetty]

Idk much about skylan

[torpid seal]

then maybe hmmm

[charred jetty]

Other than he is good in TS and he is good in tasi cheese

[drowsy terrace]

you dont need si40 until you start using her in rgms like nc and cr

[inner olive]

build aure second and si40 her before knox

[solar fractal]

Do i have to build Skylan too now

[hybrid breach]

just watch combat with him, the amount of dmg numbers go crazy

[charred jetty]

I know but is that from auto attacks?

[drowsy terrace]

that was a debate for some time

[charred jetty]

It has to be from auto attacks

[inner olive]

or just be a normal person and build selene second

[barren fjord]

okay so am i going aurelia next since i spend money and can have her si40 on mythic, or do i go daemia

[drowsy terrace]

who should get it first

[hybrid breach]

yeah believe so

[drowsy terrace]

youre wierd stop it

[barren fjord]

real.

im ngl selene was doing better for me than lib was 😭

[charred jetty]

I thought the number was from

[drowsy terrace]

you truly dont need her si40 that early on

[tepid totem]

next boss is cancer

[drowsy terrace]

idk who told you you did but they were lying

[hybrid breach]

he puts down a spear and it radiates dmg at short intervals from what i remember

[barren fjord]

no one did, i just know shes a high si40 prio, so is it rlly only when NC unlocks then? that her si40 is like good

[drowsy terrace]

well not really, her si40 becomes good when you pair her with randle for modes where you need to ramp up in damage

the staple boss comp used to be randle aure misha, knox and envy

[hybrid breach]

her si40 gives more ers and helps her do more dmg herself

[charred jetty]

Ok the fact that i can win wrizz with L skylan solo is pretty sad

I tested it, he seems decent yeah

[drowsy terrace]

thats changed up a bit now at the higher levels but the idea is still the same

[inner olive]

try it with some random elite hero

like Isabella or something

[glossy hare]

Skylan sucks until e60.

[barren fjord]

guys imma do this as well at rc 330 an tree 60, surely i can do it right

[drowsy terrace]

not a chance

[inner olive]

you can trust

[inner olive]

rng

[charred jetty]

But the damage number spam is from draconix thunder

He doesnt actually auto that fast

[drowsy terrace]

rng wont get him close at that rc

at jd's definitely

[hybrid breach]

as long as the dmg type is dragonspeak does it matter the source?

[glossy hare]

This

[drowsy terrace]

like even walker could do it

[barren fjord]

@charred jetty

can u test this

[inner olive]

don't disrespect my goat like that

of course he can solo kill wrizz

[charred jetty]

Frickin oddy in the other hand

[inner olive]

what can't he solo kill

[hybrid breach]

hacking jds acc to test walker wrizz

[charred jetty]

Dude literally slams it

[barren fjord]

yes thank you

[charred jetty]

Yeah walker wins

But my walker is way more built

[glossy hare]

[hybrid breach]

20030?

[charred jetty]

Ok way more is like 200e0

[hybrid breach]

not even e30 walker

[charred jetty]

I’m not a kraken

[hybrid breach]

show shard count rn

[inner olive]

e80 him immediately

[charred jetty]

I don’t e30 crappy heroes

[glossy hare]

I should e30 him…

[inner olive]

right this instant

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/lenny-confetti-hired-kitten-stare-kitting-looking-kitty-cool-kitty-gif-9918300050481591273

[inner olive]

you really should he's the goat

[charred jetty]

Only like 77k

[inner olive]

bradar

[drowsy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/não-gif-11679949896806389944

this you jd?

[charred jetty]

I still have a sea of non e30 heroes

[glossy hare]

Say no more.

[drowsy terrace]

hoarding till kingdom come or something

[inner olive]

W

[charred jetty]

Well I mean does walker really need e30

[glossy hare]

No lol

[barren fjord]

he needs e60

[hybrid breach]

its fun

[charred jetty]

Or khasos

[drowsy terrace]

like you dont do vibe invests?

[inner olive]

khasos needs si40 for dracula team to work

[drowsy terrace]

i did e80 eorin for vibes

[charred jetty]

Dude they never added my walker guide

[hybrid breach]

i did so many random e30s before i quit

[charred jetty]

What the heck

[hybrid breach]

actually bricked acc tho

[charred jetty]

You know walker e30 legit very good

[drowsy terrace]

yea

[charred jetty]

He’s actually not that bad with e30

[glossy hare]

I’ve got a bunch too. But I’m aiming for e30 every single hero lol

[inner olive]

walker so shit on classic but so op on comp

[charred jetty]

Before e30 he’s easily the worst in the game

[drowsy terrace]

eh

[inner olive]

on comp he stays in one place on classic he runs up to enemies and starts shooting

[hybrid breach]

disrespecting the goat

[drowsy terrace]

there's oscar

[charred jetty]

He is actually ranged

[cobalt abyss]

I did e80 selene because red stars looked ugly on her

[charred jetty]

Dude with guns as his kit actually becomes ranged

[inner olive]

oscar best

[charred jetty]

It’s kinda insane to think about

[drowsy terrace]

cap

[inner olive]

he's actually ranged in companions but they fucked him up in classic

[charred jetty]

oh nice

[glossy hare]

Awalker when.

[barren fjord]

tmrw

[inner olive]

he's gonna be a walker alright

[charred jetty]

almost like guns are actually ranged

[inner olive]

he might become a runner actually

[glossy hare]

https://tenor.com/view/nancy-sinatra-these-boots-are-made-for-walkin-thats-just-what-theyll-do-one-of-these-days-these-boots-are-gonna-gif-21381614

[barren fjord]

do we think its funny to go prep a 5M LL coll for dracula

[inner olive]

nuke tenor gifs off of the internet

immediately

[charred jetty]

I mean wait until dracula is actually good first lol

[barren fjord]

nah she will be.

[inner olive]

her ult animation is so pretty

[glossy hare]

Her name is Dracula? Why do her skills mention “releasing Decula” are you sure that’s her name?

[inner olive]

i saw it in test server it's kinda like daemia

[barren fjord]

i find it so funny that she was some random AI promo they used a while back and now they just drop her

[inner olive]

can we please talk about how they gender swapped dracula for no apparent reason

[glossy hare]

When afk arena commissions ads, they send reference material. It was probably accidentally mixed in, cause there is too many similarities.

[barren fjord]

i dont even think its similarities, i think its the exact character 😭

[charred jetty]

patch notes said dracula

[charred jetty]

yeah this

[glossy hare]

She is Dracula and releases Dracula’s… I gotta see this.

[charred jetty]

westy was leaked like a month early too

that's why I trust those ads now

[barren fjord]

LMAO

[hybrid breach]

on that one russian ad everyone thought was fake

[inner olive]

i thought ts was a woke hypo because she looks so much like eugenes wife in the ai ad

[charred jetty]

ye

[barren fjord]

people thoiught it was woke mortas LMAO

bc of this pic

[charred jetty]

now we just need that guy

[inner olive]

when will they release the first awakened awakened hero

[glossy hare]

I see it lol

[inner olive]

AAAthalia

[glossy hare]

wtf Zap.

[barren fjord]

skylan

[hybrid breach]

skylan and vei had a baby

[charred jetty]

wait yeah I just realized

is that not skylan....

you know this ad was released pre-zaph

[barren fjord]

skylan if he didnt have cool ass hair

[charred jetty]

like legit 2020

[glossy hare]

It’s still clearly Zappy boy.

[inner olive]

skylan if he was 50 years old and paying 1000 dollars a month in child support

[barren fjord]

is the "custom" totem scroll basically a free totem?

[inner olive]

he look mad depressed

[barren fjord]

bc might just take a LVL up scroll then

[prisma carbon]

Holy yappers

[barren fjord]

my fault king

[verbal anvil]

Next hero should be a dragonlite?

[barren fjord]

LMAO

[glossy hare]

I would be too, if I killed my possessed evil son and it possessed my wife after and now her existence is purely focused on my erasure.

[inner olive]

buddy nobody here knows the lore you're practically talking to a wall

idek if you're talking about skylan or zaph lmao

[glossy hare]

It’s a promotional ad lol

[prisma carbon]

What yall even talkin bout some spirit shi

[barren fjord]

zaph tho

[tepid totem]

woke desira

[inner olive]

NOBODY is using ts formation

[inner olive]

not one singular soul playing this game has ever used this

[barren fjord]

ts does not mean this 🥀

[inner olive]

who gives fuck

[barren fjord]

me

[inner olive]

it means this nowadays cry about it

[barren fjord]

😭 says who gang

[shy crescent]

Miracle worker is usually the better choice imo

[inner olive]

ts (this shit) : gifted power

ts (this) : pure effort

[barren fjord]

yeah i have 4 of em thats why i said LVL one lol

[shy crescent]

What +1/+2 are you trying to build?

[barren fjord]

i just built a envy one, rn im probably gonna maybe do a vault

but i wanna wait till lvl 3 thingy so im garunteed 3 m

[eager dock]

Can i ask guild for this campaign

[barren fjord]

lemme see ur box

of heroes

[barren fjord]

do this for me rq

[barren fjord]

you can probably just do
selene
atheus
daemia
tamrus
icariel
or something lol

[eager dock]

thanks you

[barren fjord]

if u can get a copy of elthara u can basically beat all the modes w that same comp but elthara instead of icariel

[eager dock]

i dont see ticket draconic to buy

[barren fjord]

dw bout it then

[molten ingot]

Guys did i get lucky??

Is this rly good ?

[charred jetty]

She’s good yeah

Saved you 50 DI, which is huge

You’re not going to feel the impact until like a year down the line though

[hybrid breach]

pulling dragolite outside of event

[molten ingot]

Just started the game what should I put for wishlist on dragonite

[hybrid breach]

you shouldnt be pulling them bud

[molten ingot]

Oh fr why

[hybrid breach]

they have pull events on dragolite releases

you save their pulls for that time

[molten ingot]

Is it bad even if I got this guy ?

[hybrid breach]

less than optimal

[molten ingot]

.

[hybrid breach]

she doesnt really do anything at one copy

[molten ingot]

Damn 😹

[hybrid breach]

it just saves you dg 1 year from now

[barren fjord]

hey she was kinda funny in campaign in a seal comp when i used to play at 1 copy!

[molten ingot]

Aight thanks

[prisma carbon]

Holy randle copies bro is blessed

[charred jetty]

What the heck

Dracula sounds so op

Ok maybe new players don’t need elth anymore

[barren fjord]

😭

[charred jetty]

Uh multi comp sure

But man she sounds broken as heck

[barren fjord]

is this joking jd or real jd

[charred jetty]

Legit

[prisma carbon]

What does she do?

[molten ingot]

Should I ascend these guys ?

[charred jetty]

Her +10 or +20 can’t remember

[barren fjord]

yes lol

[charred jetty]

Makes her ult last 9s

That’s ridiculous

That’s 4500% damage

[autumn gull]

dw JD thought the same about harvey 👀

[barren fjord]

LMAO

[prisma carbon]

I read smth bout dmg boost and some moon but didnt make sure to fully read

[autumn gull]

he was gonna replace zohra

[barren fjord]

wait harvey just hasnt been shown off correctly yall dont know

[charred jetty]

I mean Harvey is not terrible, just he didn’t have cheat death

[inner olive]

tavriel, begris, melion, velufira, sion

but as dub already said, don't pull for dragolites

[autumn gull]

no but fr, she looks busted

[molten ingot]

Should I smart ascend them to ?

[barren fjord]

yea

[charred jetty]

Wow new player rejoice

Campaign enjoyers mourn

[autumn gull]

yea

[barren fjord]

man new players have it good

[inner olive]

she really does ngl

[charred jetty]

Another hero that trivializes campaign further

[barren fjord]

they get a free campaign carry, and then they can get shall and shuna too

[prisma carbon]

New hero drops tmrw right?

[charred jetty]

Nah like next week

[prisma carbon]

Bruh

[charred jetty]

Also drop is a bit of a meme

[barren fjord]

add in fawkes and elthara w randle and ivan and they can probably cruise through 3 team till 4 team lol

[inner olive]

next week, and then us f2p peasants have to wait 3 months to actually get the fucking hero

[charred jetty]

We’re not getting her for another 2 months

[prisma carbon]

Hmm>

[prisma carbon]

3 months???

[barren fjord]

yeah new way to get dims is kinda ass

[inner olive]

2 months to even do the exchange, and 1 month to open the chest

[barren fjord]

yeah atp just drop the 15$

[prisma carbon]

I mean i got some resources saved up except guile coins got 10 TE yesterday

[charred jetty]

Or you can pay 50$ for a free hero

[charred jetty]

lol you wish 15$

[barren fjord]

50? isnt it 15

[prisma carbon]

😭

[charred jetty]

It’s 50$

[inner olive]

you'll get free resource chests every day from login rewards anyways that's all you'll need to get her

[barren fjord]

or is that only when its 2 dims at once

[charred jetty]

Yeah

[inner olive]

it's possible to get her only from those daily login chests if i'm not wrong

[barren fjord]

sad, looks like i gotta drop a 50 dangit

[prisma carbon]

Free hero i wont be sad

[molten ingot]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[inner olive]

dw she's probably gonna be op as fuck when we actually get her

[charred jetty]

This might make sense if she was hard to get otherwise like woke or HB

She’s literally a free hero that you are paying 50$ for

[idle thorn]

50$? I've heard it is 15. Or is it 15 per hero once 2 dims is released?

[inner olive]

it was the same with saitama we waited 3 months but it ended up being worth it

[barren fjord]

@charred jetty

just making sure u saw it

[summer vector]

heya everyone am back

[barren fjord]

yes, very cool hero

[past oar]

15$ is for first collab dim, non collab dims like dracula are 50$

[inner olive]

just a better version of alna

[barren fjord]

and way cheaper to do

[inner olive]

yeah, cheat death lasts the whole game unlike alna, and with alna you need 30900 to even get the cheat death in the first place

[idle thorn]

I see. I've just heard about 15 without any additional info/context

[summer vector]

do we have info about the new hero? or is this someone else we talkin bout

[inner olive]

we have the skills and abilities for the new hero

for ts looks like she will need 30930

[summer vector]

oke oke

[summer vector]

where can I read it?

[barren fjord]

reddit rn

[charred jetty]

Yeah

[inner olive]

oh yeah lemme see

[summer vector]

ooh oke, I'll search it up

[charred jetty]

We just haven’t had one for a while

But all the Arthur and stuff are all 50$

[summer vector]

thanks

[barren fjord]

all allies gain 20% max health on si unlock eh?

[inner olive]

WHAT THE FUCK

i didn't even read that that's so broken

[barren fjord]

and her si40 makes her a healer lol

[inner olive]

her si30 is basically just a fuck ton of damage

9f is a cheat death

[summer vector]

was about to comment on that xD

she is looking insane atm

[barren fjord]

doesnt her e30 make her rlly good for cr and nc?

[inner olive]

a continuous damage mage with a cheat death ? yeah she's gonna be broken

[past oar]

healer are useless in current meta

[barren fjord]

yeah ik its ujst a bonus

[inner olive]

actually you're right

i feel like it's a nice damage buff in general tho

[barren fjord]

unless for some reason bosses are like immune to the life leech mechanic stuff but they shouldnt be right?

[inner olive]

wait i'm genuinely not trolling khasos at 1 copy might work with her

[barren fjord]

like they should have a life leech stat that can be calculated and shown that it is less than allies

[charred jetty]

Rift

[barren fjord]

LMAO

[charred jetty]

Yeah like legit

21 LL is 50% damage

[summer vector]

wait actually

[barren fjord]

HOLY KHASOS REJUVENATION??

[summer vector]

that's one hell of a strat

[inner olive]

oh and khasos si40 makes this into a 50% ll buff so everybody put khasos in your wishlist

[summer vector]

les goo ma boy getting recognision

[past oar]

pretty sure we bench at least 10 heroes who give more dmg

[charred jetty]

Khasos 40

[prisma carbon]

So Dracula will be OP?

[inner olive]

ok but no this might actually be good in campaign

[summer vector]

as far as we know yes

[barren fjord]

we need khasos e60 for the last boost of LL lmao

[open oyster]

She seems kinda meh imo

[barren fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-bob-funny-shocked-shook-gif-4861342645729883333

[inner olive]

oh fuck

[summer vector]

meh is crazy work

[neon sparrow]

Free hero op? Never

[prisma carbon]

What does she even do

[inner olive]

it's fine 18 points still good

[past oar]

too early to say anything except she has 2 solid arguments to buy

[barren fjord]

she probably wont be OP but like, shes gonna most likely be real decent

[inner olive]

she is a continuous damage mage that has anti heal capabilities and can heal her teammates

[summer vector]

check this out

[prisma carbon]

That sounds kinda insane

[inner olive]

her signature item gives a huge hp buff to teammates

[summer vector]

the si0 is like actually peak

[inner olive]

her 9f gives her a cheat death

[summer vector]

80% health too, like it's not a low hp cheat death

[charred jetty]

Yeah but khasos is just E though

[inner olive]

WAIT IT GIVES HER A CHEAT DEATH EVERY 5 SECONDS

[charred jetty]

No hero gives that buff at 1 copy

[summer vector]

just read that she can't be targeted in bat form

crazy

[prisma carbon]

Why does she sounds so insane 😭

[open oyster]

20% sure sounds good but the current support heroes we have have cheat deaths for the team so it doesn't sound as impressive

[charred jetty]

Wait what the frick

[inner olive]

nononono it's 20% every time scarlet overflow is triggered

[charred jetty]

Awesome, another elth type hero

Doesn’t need to be alive to wipe enemy team

[inner olive]

and i don't think there's a limit

[open oyster]

Says capped at 3x

[barren fjord]

is she about to be another solo hero comp team like knox all the way up to ch 41 lol

[inner olive]

oh 60%

[summer vector]

yueah lol, as far as I'm reading this sounds kinda broken, if u look at the whole image si0 + 9f + ability's overall

[inner olive]

60% hp boost to all teammates is insane

[charred jetty]

Yup

[charred jetty]

That too

Dude her + westy and ashem

[inner olive]

if you 30930 her she's literally just unstoppable in every game mode lmfao what

[summer vector]

she gon be goated

[charred jetty]

Oh my it’s so over

[barren fjord]

was just aboput to say ashem and west

[inner olive]

please tell me i'm not pulling a jd rn and she's actually gonna be broken

[summer vector]

we will have to see, watch them nerf her to the ground after realising how op she is

[past oar]

she cant solo, she works like talene if she goes into bat form she's considered dead

[charred jetty]

I do have a rep for overhyping heroes

[summer vector]

we gotta dream gang, keep doing it

[open oyster]

I feel like she could find use in seal team for TS. Definitely a talene replacement at the very least

[barren fjord]

yeah i think they just mean like, even if they die, they still can kill the whole team

[inner olive]

harvey incident

[barren fjord]

if u have like an alvida or someone not killable on ur team lol

[charred jetty]

Oh is this confirmed?

[inner olive]

she's gonna be her own team probably

[charred jetty]

I was thinking more like Alvida + her

[summer vector]

😂

[open oyster]

Nah

[charred jetty]

Or heck Knox + her

[barren fjord]

exactly

[inner olive]

obviously not her alone with support but with like ashem and shit

[summer vector]

alvida + her would be broken ngl, like that's one hell of a comp

[past oar]

quagga said its like that so i trust

[charred jetty]

But does she actually do damage when dead though

[past oar]

but if it wasnt like she would be immortal lol

[inner olive]

no but who gives a shit she comes back to life

[barren fjord]

😭

[summer vector]

she comes back with 80% hp every time every 5s

[barren fjord]

it honestly depends on how hard she is to kill WHEN she does come back alive

[summer vector]

true ig, we will have to see

[barren fjord]

like does she die instantly? or does she stick around

[charred jetty]

Well if she’s the only one left she’s just going to die again

[barren fjord]

maybe shes like fuckin fawkes stupid ass

[inner olive]

actually wait she could work in en passant team

[barren fjord]

and just stays alive forever

[inner olive]

who would she replace

[summer vector]

[open oyster]

Oh actually very good point. I do need a mae alternative

[past oar]

mae in en passant?

[inner olive]

en passant not zohra burst but come to think of it both of those could work

[open oyster]

My brain is lagging forgot lysander left that team like 5 months ago

[past oar]

[autumn gull]

also seems like she’d be strong with ashem west and sion maybe, and then sait sjw dims gets meta

[inner olive]

i have to post this every 5 minutes to look at the skills again ts pmo

[summer vector]

hahahaha

[inner olive]

she has an sp ??? woke dim ?

[autumn gull]

?

[inner olive]

wait does she or am I illiterate

[open oyster]

?

[inner olive]

the latter, great

[summer vector]

uhm I think ur cooked gang

[inner olive]

love it

[past oar]

the amount of hopium in this channel make me think she gonna be mid at best

[summer vector]

happens to the best

[inner olive]

pls don't be harvey 2.0

[summer vector]

https://tenor.com/bWLQl.gif

[real cypress]

Her e60 is literally a single target Mehira’s ult.

[past oar]

she could be meta and then it could be even worse than harvey because u gonna need ll coll

[inner olive]

which is fucking terrible

[open oyster]

I really do feel like she is at best just a talene/mae replacement for older players, but very strong for new players.

[inner olive]

or just say fuck it and give her an mp coll

[past oar]

did u even see the ratio? its 1 ll for 2 mp

[inner olive]

i know but it's better than nothing since ll is so hard to get

[past oar]

so from 1 mythic stat u get either 11 ll or 3.5

[charred jetty]

No it’s sig

The Lilith just calls it exclusive

[past oar]

might be the case

[inner olive]

so she's basically just gonna make campaign easier once again

[past oar]

holy fuck guys u really should stop with the hopium

[inner olive]

what team gets replaced by her in early campaign

[summer vector]

let us be man

[inner olive]

ig she gets thrown into alvida burst?

[past oar]

i think u guys forget she needs 9f to not die in 2 seconds

[molten ingot]

Guys what does 10 copy mean

[past oar]

so early game is just out

[inner olive]

i think u guys forget mythic order forms exist

[past oar]

[inner olive]

you'd card her to 9f it's definitely worth it

[inner olive]

depends on how op she is in ts

[open oyster]

wts they be teaching in TS nowdays

[molten ingot]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[inner olive]

if she's actually really good in early ts yeah carding her to 9f is good

[past oar]

this is 2 copies, u need 5 of those obviously its just a placeholder hero

[inner olive]

if not don't bother doing it just for campaign

[past oar]

she would need to be really op for that to happen

[molten ingot]

From any heroes or it has to be the same ?

[past oar]

the same

[molten ingot]

Why

Damn that’s a lot, what level does it get to

[summer vector]

A 1*

[inner olive]

ascended 1 star

[past oar]

because thats how the game works

[molten ingot]

All right thanks

[summer vector]

ur feeding him his brethren so he gets stronker 💪

[inner olive]

corniest shit ever

[summer vector]

[inner olive]

how many edits do you need unc

[summer vector]

https://tenor.com/kQgqvQeDlWo.gif

[summer vector]

I'm seeing my own message like 5 times too xD

[prisma carbon]

top 5 smartest person oat

[summer vector]

ik right

[umbral wadi]

Woah woah woah

Calm down lowly nitro role

[summer vector]

ur exempt from it dw

[prisma carbon]

Brodie shut it

[summer vector]

[summer vector]

https://tenor.com/dhVhZBkBUcg.gif

[autumn gull]

i think we should normalize tagging CS when you have any type of question, for the following two weeks

and then abruptly denormalize it

[summer vector]

[jaunty linden]

guys are maulers actually bad or they’re fine

i just switched from companions to classic and i’m building maulers wit dragonics and celestial what do y’all thinkk

this is my compo for now

[summer vector]

mmh I would recommend u to check out =guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[summer vector]

and =campaign

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618027271906918400/1320930606573555752/newgitgudguidev2.png?ex=689b45be&is=6899f43e&hm=2a04a9aec55d8216c661a2499dccc95d8e112a970bbca008f0c9e34918e7a0bc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1516&height=1168

[jaunty linden]

thank you so much i will try understanding that

[summer vector]

all good, let us know if you need help with anything ; )

[jaunty linden]

i will appreciate u bro

[summer vector]

[inner olive]

=earlycamp is more up to date

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726