classic-questions

[molten canopy]

I was talking about this picture and it's the second card but I don't think that's the card I think it is

[torpid sand]

Without the token doubling effect

[molten canopy]

Yeah that's not the enchantment I thought it was

[torpid sand]

Of the names you can see there's
Valley Floodcaller
Sol Ring
Ranger-Captain of Eos
Misty Rainforest
Mana Confluence
Flooded Strand

[molten canopy]

I have an enchantment on arena that gives double +1/+1 counters if it gets a +1/+1 it cost 2 to play

But it's not one of these

[torpid sand]

Hmm

[molten canopy]

And I don't think it's doubling season isn't that got to do with mana

[molten canopy]

If you tap a creature for mana it doubles that minute isn't that what doubling season does

[torpid sand]

No

[molten canopy]

Maybe that's what this enchantment I'm thinking about does besides adding an additional +1/+1

[molten canopy]

@torpid sand what's your thoughts on the Ninja turtles set

[torpid sand]

This one maybe?

[torpid sand]

Not a big fan of the plane NYC, so I'm skipping it

[molten canopy]

I like slash though that dude is a badass

[torpid sand]

None of the cards are really my playstyle that I noticed

[molten canopy]

You put him in the right baby maker deck and he doesn't even have to attack

[torpid sand]

My playstyle is more Strixhaven, the next set

[molten canopy]

I like the Frozen set

Kalheim I think I'm saying it right

[torpid sand]

The red fella?

[molten canopy]

Oh that's the card I'm thinking of but I just have a different look of it

[torpid sand]

Yeah that's just purphoros with less safety and an in-built generator

Good in the 99 of a solphim deck

[torpid sand]

Magecraft is my favourite keyword

[molten canopy]

This is what mine looks like on arena that's why I thought that second card from the right in that picture was it

[torpid sand]

Ah right

That looks like wilds of eldraine art

[molten canopy]

I believe it is there's special set

[molten canopy]

What I like to call their secret lair version of their wilds of Eldraine

[torpid sand]

WoE has some cool ass art cards

Probably my favourite ones

[molten canopy]

Yes specially their secret lair set

[torpid sand]

Strixhaven ones are cool too but Eldraine diffs

[molten canopy]

Because come on let's be honest least sets nowadays are mostly secret layers

I like the weird animal set

[torpid sand]

Bloomburrow?

[molten canopy]

I'm probably not going to say it right but Bloomberg

Yeah that's it I just wish it was a bigger set

What I mean is I wish they had 2 more parts to it

[torpid sand]

Should've been 2 sets, if it were a block

[autumn gull]

woke op to a wall of MTG cards

great start to my day actually

[molten canopy]

It kind of reminds me of that cartoon I can't think of the name of it it's about where they were Lab rats and they escaped from some place I can't think of the name of the place

I think it started with a z

[torpid sand]

Ur welcome bud

[autumn gull]

the secret of nimh?

[molten canopy]

Yeah that's it that should have been part of Bloomberg or have you spell it

[torpid sand]

The powerpuff girls?

[molten canopy]

They wasted a good opportunity on a good crossover with that

[autumn gull]

ohh yea that’s sick

[torpid sand]

Grumble did u see what sparked this whole convo?

[molten canopy]

Bloomburrow should have been the first part

[charred jetty]

can we talk about afk arena sometimes in the middle too

[torpid sand]

Yes, whenever someone brings up afk

[charred jetty]

tbf no one really asking questions

[autumn gull]

lmao no i didn’t

[torpid sand]

Don't want to interrupt the question asker's and everything

[charred jetty]

here's mine - is dracula good yet

[turbid spade]

@charred jetty I have a question

[torpid sand]

Envy has been good for a while

[autumn gull]

great question JD!

[torpid sand]

I got 6 new decks yesterday

[charred jetty]

when do we get initial test server results

[river shuttle]

You didn’t awnser my question

[charred jetty]

is it like 2 days?

[glossy hare]

Those bitties already got an endorsement of 409e60 from me.

[charred jetty]

I missed the question, what's the question

[autumn gull]

[turbid spade]

@charred jetty PTS Sir!

[charred jetty]

[molten canopy]

Bloomburrow should have been the first set of the block
The Secret of Nimh should have been the second set of the block
& Return to Nimh could have been the third set of the block and it would have been so damn good

[tepid totem]

10000 dias suck

[river shuttle]

#1191599454843834451 message

[autumn gull]

we love 10k dia’s no

[charred jetty]

oh looked good to me. I don't actualyl know much about furn prio

[prisma carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/howyy-gif-14677769772756874928

[torpid sand]

Buds bringing up ancient history from a different server smh smh

[molten canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/the-secret-of-nihm-nihm-mouse-animation-scared-gif-14614065634988021359

[torpid sand]

Whole 11 hours

[charred jetty]

ok maybe I just need to read through the skills and decide

[river shuttle]

Yesterday

[charred jetty]

and stop being lazy

[torpid sand]

This morning for me

[molten canopy]

@torpid sand look at that mouse and tell me that don't remind you of Bloomburrow and vice versa

[torpid sand]

So, same day

[charred jetty]

a lot could have happened in 24 hours

[torpid sand]

Reminds me of Disney

[charred jetty]

ok let me do my homework

[torpid sand]

Which is pretty much what bloomburrow was

[autumn gull]

i thimk its also totally fine if you’re more the creative and supporting part of the process though

[charred jetty]

bruh I have to pack though

okay same time

[molten canopy]

Well it is a Disney movie I believe

[autumn gull]

don’t need to know everything, we have loads of smart people in there

[torpid sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/753064679194099783/804880717707345940/image0.gif

[autumn gull]

dual wielding

[charred jetty]

hmmm fawkes 9f...

obviously it's good

[prisma carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-hehehe-mwehehe-gif-18358017715551073826

[molten canopy]

You trying to drown that cat

[charred jetty]

but the problem is can he get enough MP early game

[river shuttle]

Casual approved it ( he gave me the prio )

[torpid sand]

I'll take a photo of the other 5 when I get home haha

[molten canopy]

That's okay they've got nine lives

[torpid sand]

Its just a shower for a stinky cat

[autumn gull]

since we do fawk si40 he should have

[charred jetty]

he didn't run it by anyone else

[river shuttle]

?

[charred jetty]

50 fawkes only gives 12 MP

[molten canopy]

What would y'all do if somebody gave you a plate of food and y'all loved it but only to come to find it was cat

[charred jetty]

like I don't think he ran the 9f list by the server

your guide was the first time I saw the updated list

[torpid sand]

Well if it wasn't my cat, I'd just move on probably

Meat is meat, once I've eaten it I have no sentimental value to it

[charred jetty]

but eh probably just do it because feels natural

[river shuttle]

I did put it in the server for a reason? He doesnt do stuff on his own

[molten canopy]

I honestly don't know what I would do it's a corner I guess how good it taste

[autumn gull]

but he doesn’t need to max the 9f right? every MP is extra dps which is huge

[charred jetty]

ok knox stopping at 3f is trollnig

[autumn gull]

nah his 9f pretty bad

[inner olive]

what does knox 9f do again

[charred jetty]

it makes knox and his golem do more damage

[autumn gull]

wait wtf nevermind i misremembered

[charred jetty]

which is useless later on

[molten canopy]

No he doesn't and a car don't really need four wheels to drive right it doesn't I heard it but it doesn't need

[charred jetty]

but early on hello, we literally are doing knox solo

[autumn gull]

but huge when you build him

[river shuttle]

I asked him to help me and said what i thought and he gave me a list wich i put in a guide after we discussed it i think ur understanding smth wrong here

[torpid sand]

Increases his movement speed by 40, making him do laps even faster

*blatant misinformation*

[charred jetty]

oh

[inner olive]

12% damage boost

[charred jetty]

I thought he just came up with a list and got you to make the guide

mb

[river shuttle]

No

[inner olive]

oh nvm it's 12% per stack of panic

[charred jetty]

it's like 50% damage boost

[molten canopy]

I give every one of my heroes nine furniture

[charred jetty]

on a solo carry hero

[inner olive]

yeah 48%

[charred jetty]

that's not exactly useless

[torpid sand]

Suboptimal

[inner olive]

that's actually pretty good

[molten canopy]

Or I should say I'm trying to

[inner olive]

knox definitely worth keeping on wishlist till 9f

[river shuttle]

I dont think i had knox 9f and he was doing fine

[molten canopy]

You can't take him out when he has 8 so you don't accidentally get to like I did for one of my heroes when they already had eight

[river shuttle]

I can add it tho

[charred jetty]

I dont' think he is a good account to benchmark earlygame by lol

[torpid sand]

Bud ur chapter 77

[torpid sand]

This is a guide for newbies, so its huge for them

[charred jetty]

I think he meant for casual

which is lowkey even worse

[river shuttle]

Im not talking about this acc

[torpid sand]

Cos casual a giga kraken

[charred jetty]

oh wait I misread too

[autumn gull]

we can chat with @solar fractal first about his reasoning

[charred jetty]

well you want to extend knox solo lifespan anyways

[torpid sand]

Holy casual apprentice cs

[autumn gull]

but it’s a good thing for on the ideas list

[charred jetty]

but maybe

hmm

[molten canopy]

My game loves to play tricks on me I need one hero to make them five star I do a select summon 10 pull and I get three of them I need one piece of furniture and and I leave them on the wish list for a hero and I get two pieces of furniture for the hero

[autumn gull]

[charred jetty]

maybe you guys are right

when do people get seal 18 again

or seal 15

[river shuttle]

4-6 months

[charred jetty]

when they switch over from knox solo to knox seal, they don't need knox 9f anymore

[autumn gull]

even then, more panic means more survivability

[charred jetty]

that's true too

[inner olive]

wouldn't 18 seal go into another team

[torpid sand]

I didn't see the ping bud

[charred jetty]

is misha actually good?

[charred jetty]

not after knox solo falls off though

knox solo ceases to work at around ch40-42, depending on collection and investment and what you mean by work

[inner olive]

works well in knox team

[charred jetty]

what does she do

[inner olive]

if she can ult a few times the enemy team is just cooked

[river shuttle]

Stop time? idk

[autumn gull]

yes, early on the 9f is absolutely incredible in TR and tower imo, and TS/NC later on of course too

[charred jetty]

before e60 she is like actually not helpful as a survivability booster

[torpid sand]

Doesn't she extend the battle timer?

[charred jetty]

she messes with buffs and things

[torpid sand]

Like Owl?

[charred jetty]

oh ok

[inner olive]

she freezes enemies for a few seconds and removes most of their energy with her ult

[charred jetty]

I trust you guys

misha has alwasy felt really weird to me

[inner olive]

so she kinda does help with survivability

[river shuttle]

She stops it but its basically the same thing

[charred jetty]

I have no idea what she actually does

[torpid sand]

Hmm so more like orthros than owl

Better for NC

[charred jetty]

shuna....

does shuna need furn at all?

[torpid sand]

Misha was the second last hero released when I quit iirc

[charred jetty]

it sounds pretty meh

[torpid sand]

3 I think?

[charred jetty]

3f gives healing

[autumn gull]

140% def to atk buff, 30% dmg reduction, she locks up enemies after her ult and haste reduction

[charred jetty]

9f gives uh debuff removal

[inner olive]

wait her 9f is completely useless

[torpid sand]

Ah it was the 9

[charred jetty]

9f is actually decent

3f is useless

[inner olive]

i never realized how bad it was

[charred jetty]

healing is a joke

who the heck are you healing at 300 deficit

[autumn gull]

doesn’t she buff based on healing done

[inner olive]

oh nevermind they're both ass

[charred jetty]

oh does she

[torpid sand]

Naroko's worm that doesnt die

[charred jetty]

see this is why we need someone to dump all the hero skills into a database, and LLM EDA it

[queen edge]

man wtf

[inner olive]

wait no she doesn't

[charred jetty]

skylan washed

[queen edge]

wait why’d i put snickerfang wtf

[autumn gull]

nah doesn’t

[charred jetty]

yeah what the heck consider skipping shuna 9f

[torpid sand]

Pay me a single gaea's cradle and I'll put it all into a google sheet when I get home

[autumn gull]

i think 9f is very strong from what i remember, and shuns is so good that it’s worth

[charred jetty]

nah I'd rather have some dataminer do it

it's way too much work for one person by hand

it's like ridiculous

[inner olive]

5036100 skylan or he's literally useless

[torpid sand]

@noble hornet

[fading wedge]

Is new update coming today

[umbral wadi]

Why is this bum here

[autumn gull]

psshs tried to summarize some skills but the summary is still a full page

[inner olive]

i think on test server

[willow bison]

[charred jetty]

nah in around a week

[inner olive]

wait no it's out tomorrow on test

[fading wedge]

Aw

[queen edge]

with 7 teams he works sometimes

[charred jetty]

yeah. I think I'd rather have the OG text though, maybe + a translation layer

[torpid sand]

https://tenor.com/view/nub-cat-nub-silly-cat-sit-i-got-too-silly-gif-12964444628421195303

[charred jetty]

then finally we can have a good LLM assisted synergy exploration

[fading wedge]

What's test server
Testers for afk ?

[charred jetty]

that is for sure the way to go in 2026

[inner olive]

use chatgpt

[torpid sand]

It's the early release server

[torpid sand]

Eww lmao

[charred jetty]

open ai obviously doesn't have the skills surfaced in training

[fading wedge]

Ohh

[inner olive]

it's gonna say shuna ult gives allies 500 energy but it's chill

[torpid sand]

Bro would be so inaccurate

[queen edge]

sion better then skylan 💔

[charred jetty]

trying to do needle in a haystack with like petabytes of data sounds like a meme

[autumn gull]

yea because you gave skylan a goofy team and pet

[charred jetty]

in short we need to construct like a RAG model for afk arena

[glossy hare]

[autumn gull]

i wanna try and summarize hero skills actually efficiently

[inner olive]

god that alna skin is weird

[charred jetty]

we don't actually need a vector db because modern LLMs are powerful enough, and we don't have nearly enough text to warrant it

[queen edge]

shuna and gorok ain’t bad tho 💔

[autumn gull]

but it would be too much work

[glossy hare]

Halloween! 🎃

[prisma carbon]

Should i spend gems on the Oath Codex?

[inner olive]

no

[charred jetty]

so just having all the skills and sigs and stuff as plaintext would be nice

[prisma carbon]

Ok

[charred jetty]

so we can do analysis like e.g. during oddy release

[autumn gull]

if we make 10 examples of what we want, then upload the other 100 heroes that matter

[charred jetty]

list all heroes that buff attack speed

[queen edge]

who’s a good west sub

[charred jetty]

or just upload all of them lol

[autumn gull]

that’s be nice as hell, yea

[charred jetty]

maybe have like a 2 layer architecture - raw text + interpreted skills

[inner olive]

ivan (trust)

[queen edge]

i don’t trust

[torpid sand]

Specifically that buff ally attack speed

[autumn gull]

west

[charred jetty]

overengineer the crap out of the system

[torpid sand]

Or else you'll get heroes that self buff

[inner olive]

east

[charred jetty]

slap on minimax 2.7

[river shuttle]

Snickerfang below lvl 27 kinda midd

[autumn gull]

btw did you guys know west taunts after her ult??

[charred jetty]

what eh english

[queen edge]

yeah i didn’t even realize the pet for some reason 😭😭

[charred jetty]

???

no

[autumn gull]

i always thought the ult was kinda eh but that’s insane

[torpid sand]

Reading the skill explains the skill

[glossy hare]

From my short research, nothing substantial.

[queen edge]

switched to panda 12 which worked last debuff

[river shuttle]

This debuff you can also leave an empty spot instead of ivan it has basically the same strength

[charred jetty]

the rabbit is called snickerfang?

what a weird name

[river shuttle]

Yep

[torpid sand]

https://tenor.com/view/tolarian-community-college-kyle-hill-magic-the-gathering-i-hate-your-deck-reading-the-card-gif-22381436

[inner olive]

it does

[charred jetty]

maybe I start calling him snicker

[queen edge]

using west in envy team instead 🤘

[inner olive]

yo

[charred jetty]

nah rabbit/bunny is better

[fading wedge]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191599620367851621/1481877904324563074/AFK_Arena_-_Noob_Guide.jpg?ex=69b59298&is=69b44118&hm=98f2289a48fc81dda6e34b3ad2dd746094c159fd9d46c2d5332e11a2abb48a1c&=&format=webp&width=659&height=680

[autumn gull]

or call him fang, that’s more logical

[inner olive]

do NOT call him snicker 💔

[river shuttle]

N…

[autumn gull]

BEGRIZ??

[queen edge]

no kregor, i think that’s his name

[charred jetty]

I'm so disappointed harvey specter didn't work

[autumn gull]

i’m slapping that mofo in my teams rn

[charred jetty]

naming was such a coincidence

[inner olive]

i'm very happy about it

[autumn gull]

[torpid sand]

[river shuttle]

[inner olive]

i don't wanna build harveys freaky ass

[charred jetty]

you know about suits right

the tv show

[tepid totem]

do it

[inner olive]

no

[torpid sand]

Its a good thing mike's last name is Ross and not Hock

[umbral wadi]

e80.

[charred jetty]

anyways was just a coincidence that it almost worked out

[cobalt abyss]

Not many people really know about it or realize it because wes needs a min of 3 IS on her coll to have a chance on her taunt

[river shuttle]

[inner olive]

@midnight dawn buddy

[charred jetty]

because AoE grouping + specter has insane synergy

[glossy hare]

Does Si40 Lysander what makes the difference for that comp?

[charred jetty]

so I thought harvey + specter was going to work

turns out his grouping is too weak

[river shuttle]

I think its rather pony lvl 27, lys si40 is nc invest

[charred jetty]

or maybe he just doesn't do enough damage, idk

[glossy hare]

Ah… then keep soldiering on. I’ll reach it eventually. lol

[umbral wadi]

Do they attack through countless legal procedures?

[autumn gull]

from what i’ve heard it’s just net profit in every team where you have significantly strong rooks. 27 pony is way more important though

[river shuttle]

And idk how kfc and alyca compare? Cuz im using alyca sp

[umbral wadi]

Wyca in the big 2026

[river shuttle]

[autumn gull]

yea all these heroes are just barely hanging on because of pony

[charred jetty]

well...

[autumn gull]

once there’s a consistently better team for her, watha and wyca are DONE For

did i just call the horse a she

[river shuttle]

Yep

[umbral wadi]

wAtha Wyca has been done for since 2024. I remember using that burst team on my mini account lmao

[inner olive]

bradar

[river shuttle]

Well its not the best but it somehow still works

[glossy hare]

Stupid power cap!

[river shuttle]

I agree

[autumn gull]

wyca + si20 lys just meant instant ult for watha, there’s no time for energy debuggers to crush your dreams yet

[river shuttle]

Ur team has more power than my account

[cobalt abyss]

The team does need vida 40 and pony 27 to function well but overall it’s hanging by a thread like the aluci comp slowly dying out

[autumn gull]

i can’t wait for luci to die ngl

we just need a better carry for 7th team in the shape of dracula

[river shuttle]

Aluc sucks this debuff

[umbral wadi]

aLuc was dead, Levi revived him, now he’s dead again?

[river shuttle]

Not yet

[glossy hare]

No, Ice = no shields.

[cloud pollen]

It's ice, Leviathan's shield is also nullified, so even he is not an optimal pick

[cobalt abyss]

Really the only saving grace this debuff for players who don’t own him

[glossy hare]

Yuuuus

[river shuttle]

My best team this debuff is zora

[umbral wadi]

I remember running Ivan in Ice in desperate times because he summoned those stupid little creatures that could cc enemies

[charred jetty]

also what exactly does velu do?

why does she do so much damage and buff dps so much

[glossy hare]

Really? Mines not doing great

[charred jetty]

I know she does the MP thing

[cloud pollen]

Has this skill to reduce magic damage taken so much

[charred jetty]

but she clearly does a lot more than just the MP thing lol

this is like proper 630 deficit

which is not the highest, but is pretty high

[glossy hare]

Why only 30%

[autumn gull]

velu has like the most versatile and useful skill imo

[charred jetty]

you literally don't need a dps source

[cloud pollen]

Check who you are facing

[charred jetty]

velu makes selene go absolute brrrrr

is she like an aurelia 2.0 now what the heck

[cloud pollen]

Velufura is usually used with Envydiel for further protection

[open oyster]

Where is shalltear

[autumn gull]

she actually does good dmg in TS and camp, has insane CC and sustain, her buffs are good and she protects allies

[river shuttle]

Whale elthara

[charred jetty]

yeah ik, but I'm starting to think that is a gross misallocation

[open oyster]

Bud is apprentice CS wts

[cobalt abyss]

He’s on the verge of dying even in cr

[autumn gull]

[charred jetty]

liek the type that happens when people only see a hero for doing 1 particular thing

[umbral wadi]

Why isn’t bud cs

[cloud pollen]

Two nice numbers together

[open oyster]

i will redirect everyone to you

[umbral wadi]

Actually can we make loler mod in here

[open oyster]

[charred jetty]

I removed specter damage buff too

[autumn gull]

what is lib doing there

[charred jetty]

look at this - she is literally a hypercarry

[river shuttle]

[river shuttle]

What is this

[cloud pollen]

Coincidentally, server 69, so double gud

[charred jetty]

this comp right here will beat legit 99% of campaign stages

[glossy hare]

shrug I copy what’s being used in my region lol

[charred jetty]

including tasi and trishea

[autumn gull]

ngl thats the 4096x talking. my 30930 doesn’t do that

[open oyster]

Prob better off running talene afawkes (otherwise flora) instead of shalltear lib

[cloud pollen]

Why didn't you copy me then, are you too good for me?

[charred jetty]

you have those heroes right, can you test that comp?

or pcap ]

[autumn gull]

no selene sadly, and pcapped

[glossy hare]

Other way around.

[charred jetty]

oh jolly

[open oyster]

You got your 3rd alt to 76-1 already wts

[charred jetty]

but yeah lol, this is actually insane

[autumn gull]

i love that powercap is no longer a skill thing, that i can’t make my five strongest work

[river shuttle]

Do you have fafkes?

[umbral wadi]

Worlds most f2p f2p

[cloud pollen]

Clippy had the potential, also brought her back to top 200 for one round so far

[autumn gull]

huuuge

[glossy hare]

What?

[prisma carbon]

Can i add you in afk arena? 🙂

[open oyster]

Kisaka rank 1 f2p

[cloud pollen]

He meant Fawkes but it's twisted in so many different ways

[charred jetty]

my golden rule for pushing is if you can't start with ashem + envy/elth + cmbr descending + highest power pet and colls, don't bother

[river shuttle]

Woke fafkes good in seal - lib isnt

[umbral wadi]

Also when is calc this ts

[charred jetty]

sorry fl is full

[river shuttle]

2d14h

[charred jetty]

but if you need a merc I can give a merc

[umbral wadi]

I’m going to forget this

[cloud pollen]

5 more rounds

[charred jetty]

I also dont' have that big of a roster compared to most people here lol

[glossy hare]

I was wondering where he was. lol

[open oyster]

[charred jetty]

I'm f2p sir

[cloud pollen]

You're doing fine, I still think you would be top 20 candidate if you had just built Skylan

[charred jetty]

[prisma carbon]

[autumn gull]

i can literally just smack the 4 best including fawkes in pos5 + panda and it works

[charred jetty]

eh, maybe after this swap

[umbral wadi]

Literally vip19 btw

[cobalt abyss]

^^

[charred jetty]

oh yeah

[river shuttle]

We need more spots

[charred jetty]

wait fawkes is that strong that you can just him solo?

[charred jetty]

ikr

I suggested that, but ig no response from devs

[cloud pollen]

Like, you have tree level that's comparable to everyone else in region, so that won't make you disadvantaged, just need more options and then have someone like Myu work her magic

[charred jetty]

maybe I should do the NYC thing just to get devs to implement our suggestions lol

[cobalt abyss]

Fawkes is unbelievably powerful in early to mid game camp

[charred jetty]

I don't want to pay for flight and lodge in NYC though

[cloud pollen]

You're flying like 4 hours just to get there?

[charred jetty]

it's more like 6

which is terrible

[autumn gull]

JD is our frontline warrior

[charred jetty]

and like I think flights cost 180$, lodge costs like 200$

[glossy hare]

He’s pretty good endgame too lol

[charred jetty]

for afk arena? idk man...

[cloud pollen]

Wait what it takes that long even though it's just from one place to another in same country? It's 2 hours from Melbourne to Brisbane and looking at map it looks similar distance

[charred jetty]

you do get good food and nice merch though

[autumn gull]

it’ll be the end of your f2p era

[charred jetty]

no it's like melbourne to perth distance

[cloud pollen]

Then just 3 hours

[charred jetty]

perth sounds so weird now, haven't typed that out in a hot minute

idk my friends went to NY last year, and they said their flight was 6 hours

it was actually 6 hours just to boston

[cloud pollen]

Probably because there's way too many planes they can't go at full speed

[charred jetty]

melbourne is brisbane is more like LA to seattle

which is like the shorter edge of the US rectangle

[open oyster]

3rd largest country in the world

[charred jetty]

actually wait no

actually no yes

[cloud pollen]

Oh you in LA huh, an aunt moved there years back, lives at the former Olympic village turned housing or something

[charred jetty]

nah I'm in SF

most of my friends are from LA though, so I drive down time to time

[charred jetty]

wow

she balling

[open oyster]

Expensive ahh state

[charred jetty]

that's CRAZY

yeah I'm good

[umbral wadi]

Still not big enough for ur mom

Sorry

[open oyster]

[charred jetty]

ok who the heck sellilng 10bd 10ba 6300 sqr ft

[cloud pollen]

Nah it's just apartment with so many units or something

Imagine getting your own land and your own dwelling man, what a dream

Maybe I should work for a farm home

[charred jetty]

our generation might be cooked

[autumn gull]

oh yea i forgot about housing

[cloud pollen]

Own land, with pretty garden, enough land to grow cool stuff, get some animals

[charred jetty]

gotta get that silicon valley tech money to even have a shot

[autumn gull]

my temporary student housing is being revoked, so it’s back to the streets for me soon

[open oyster]

That's the dream

[charred jetty]

@torpid sand has it so nice

dude lives on like 50 acres of land

[cloud pollen]

Temporary? So what happens to the original place that made you get temporary

[autumn gull]

i have lovely parents that don’t mind taking me back in, but just imagine i didn’t :P

[charred jetty]

where's my 50 acres of land

[open oyster]

Sillicon valley tech money isn't even that crazy considering the cost of living there

[charred jetty]

the strat is to find your college friends and stack a house

[torpid sand]

2500 acres

[autumn gull]

it’s gets wrecked to make houses for millionaires, not even kidding

[charred jetty]

[torpid sand]

Unless u mean just the house itself

[cloud pollen]

Wtf that is so a CN thing to wreck normal people places to free up room for rich

[charred jetty]

1 acre is 10000 m^2 btw

wait not that's hectare

[torpid sand]

[charred jetty]

I'm becoming americanized, losing my sense of reality

[torpid sand]

Buds lost

[cloud pollen]

You would think they at least let you live somewhere comparable in a different place but make sure it's actually, not going to be taken away

[torpid sand]

Just finished spraying a 48 hectare paddock

[open oyster]

Wtf 10 km^2 of land?

[cloud pollen]

Unless if you graduate and stop being student then you become ineligible or something

[charred jetty]

I find myself having a better sense of what a mile is than a km sometimes

[torpid sand]

If its 2.5 acres to the hectare yeah

[cloud pollen]

Let me guess, you also become corrupted by gallon instead of L

[charred jetty]

nah L still makes sense to me

celsius too

[torpid sand]

10117141.1 square metres according to google

[fading wedge]

Should I complete him
Haven't seen him mentioned anywhere recently

[charred jetty]

dude you know their scales have like 2.12 lbs instead of 2.75 lbs

because 16 oz in a lb

it makes me so mad

[torpid sand]

[cloud pollen]

He has some use cases for campaign with creativity, but more importantly, buying him frees up a dim emblem slot in lab I think, or was it red chest in gladiator store

[charred jetty]

I have to do fraction math whilst looking at the thing that is meant to tell me exactly what the weight is

[cloud pollen]

Just 💷 everyone, assimilate the culture

[fading wedge]

Challenger

[open oyster]

Why cant they just use the metric system

[cloud pollen]

It's 3/4 done, may as well finish, and then up to you whether you want to slowly and painfully build Orthros, or just spare your coins for reds

[autumn gull]

dear #classic-questions, may i redirect your attention to this lovely blossoming tree in my neighbors backyard

[open oyster]

Wowow

[cloud pollen]

Kill it with fire

[cobalt abyss]

Uwahh this is pretty

[fading wedge]

Kool

[autumn gull]

it’s so pretty

[torpid sand]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-reaction-meme-stan-twitter-funny-stressed-gif-7713976294327515532

[pulsar marlin]

It’s reds

Which is honestly worth it after alna/orthos

[cloud pollen]

Something something "You don't need Alna anymore now that you have Saitama"

[torpid sand]

Holy registration open

What is this even for

[pulsar marlin]

u still use alna just move her to another team

[open oyster]

Event in newyork, to meet with the devs

[pulsar marlin]

In person q and a

Basically if ur close by complain to the devs for us

Bear is prob gonna be there

[open oyster]

Ask them for hb and woke swap

[torpid sand]

Oh I'm on the other side of the world

[fading wedge]

Imma just complete Leonardo since he's kinda tuff
Nothing much in challenger store anyway

[cloud pollen]

Yes but the problem is, are you seriously going to spend more than a year to build her from store alone? I can only imagine that takes forever and keeps your rank down

[pulsar marlin]

No u spend 7 months

[cloud pollen]

I hate to say it but, if you need heroes like Orthros and Alna, you can use the store for supplementary copies but at the end of the day, you'd want to rush with SG

[pulsar marlin]

That’s roughly the time it took me to finish prio cele hypos

[open oyster]

Spend 1k gogogo

[cloud pollen]

Nem already spend God knows how much on Magic the Gathering

Probably even has a Jace cosplay costume in his shed

[torpid sand]

Only thing that can drag me to America is the t1 circus at worlds this year

[torpid sand]

chandra

[cloud pollen]

Oh right, forgot you have the bodyshape that's better for girly cosplays

[open oyster]

I'm thinking of going. Have family there anyways so good excuse

[autumn gull]

is this beef

[charred jetty]

no

[torpid sand]

No she's just jealous of my hourglass curves

[charred jetty]

literally sell the shards when you need more coins

[open oyster]

[torpid sand]

Visiting "family" and disappear for a week

[fading wedge]

He's very bad now?

[torpid sand]

Useless

[charred jetty]

I mean not in RGMs, and only ~40% of the hero pool is better for campaign

[torpid sand]

Not worth the dimblem slot?

[autumn gull]

yes. if you weren’t ch33 i’d say finish him to free up a slot of reds

[charred jetty]

wait LDV is from chally

[torpid sand]

Yeah

[open oyster]

"visiting family" (visiting faker )

[charred jetty]

otherwise we would reocmmend him over RH

[cloud pollen]

Yes, they should make vampire lady in challenger store too

[torpid sand]

Ong ong

[inner olive]

when do you unlock the red chests in lab store ?

[fading wedge]

What's RH

[torpid sand]

[fading wedge]

Oh robinhood

[torpid sand]

Ok phone on 3%, gtg

[open oyster]

Bye bye

[torpid sand]

Be back later when I get home to talk about ||not|| afk

[open oyster]

[autumn gull]

making oats rn

should i put in kiwi yes or no

[open oyster]

Yes

[autumn gull]

like literally why wouldn’t i

[open oyster]

Was thinkin of making oats earlier, was lazy though

[autumn gull]

i always eat oats for bf

[open oyster]

It's so good

[autumn gull]

i do have to add protein powder though because other than fibers and carbs it’s doesn’t have many nutrients lmao

but it’s better without

[wraith fjord]

Can someone check a maths problem for me I think I’m going crazy cause I don’t see where I fucked up

[autumn gull]

shoot

[wraith fjord]

Part A the arc length of this
The integral I end up with looks un solvable

[autumn gull]

what’s the formula for arc length again …

[pallid knoll]

Its 1 LL : 2 MP

[autumn gull]

it looks like you did it right though, and this integral is definitely solvable with substitution of x=t^3

because the nasty third powers leave and you have 3t^2 dt extra but that’s fine

think it becomes a standard root form

[autumn gull]

oo intersting

[pallid knoll]

Wolfram Alpha it
Or just Gemini

[autumn gull]

or just x=t^3

LL coll will definitely be BiS, since a mythic MP node gives 7.23 and a mythic LL gives 11.88…

so MP is about 3x worse

[pallid knoll]

Yep.. 7 : 23 ratio

Cant imagine we'll ever be needing LL mage colls

[wraith fjord]

I grid gemini and chat got both had a stroke

[wraith fjord]

I tried a different sub but I’ll try that now thank you

[pallid knoll]

Lucky wheel

Love the frame

[autumn gull]

lmk if it works!

[vivid wolf]

exact same VoW

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1g1qqbl/vow_the_soulspire_puzzles/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[pulsar marlin]

How’s the new boss

Also she seems like a decent early game dps

Possibly decent for nc as well

Just give her 203 e30 for nc

[cloud pollen]

Wallet is bleeding again

[grave hollow]

Imagine needing a 5 LL mage coll

[inner olive]

seems like she wants 309??

[grave hollow]

This dracula seem DOA for cute f2ps

[inner olive]

show engravings

[pallid knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-buying-shopping-wallet-burning-gif-14236284

[pulsar marlin]

Na she’s prob gonna be pretty good for small acc nc

Her haste and defense reduction is quite strong at small invests

[inner olive]

oh 30930

[grave hollow]

yeah keep dreaming bud

[cloud pollen]

Wait two months

[pulsar marlin]

203 e30

[pulsar marlin]

Does she get ll from her runes or no

[inner olive]

her 9f and si30 are just so overpowered tho

[open oyster]

Wts math in afk arena server

[pulsar marlin]

In nc no

In ts she’s prob a 309 e30 and toss her in ashem

[inner olive]

oh alr i meant for ts

[pulsar marlin]

Oooooo 34?

Lemme do some math

[tepid totem]

will she be meta

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/quick-maths-mans-not-hot-gif-11163522

[cloud pollen]

@grave hollow I love how people just get some datamined pics and then immediate assume they're going to kick ass with the hero

[inner olive]

feel like she'll find a way to be really good in early ts

[vivid wolf]

[pallid knoll]

No LL from furn or Si

[cloud pollen]

Well time to save your cards for LL spam

[pulsar marlin]

Her skills cap at 80 LL

Her blood gain doesn’t cap at 80 ll

[cloud pollen]

You can't get LL by recasting I think

[vivid wolf]

lol is another "TY" coll

[pulsar marlin]

And there’s no cooldown

[cloud pollen]

No because you can recast into TY

[grave hollow]

Its also funny that some NC %er think that a single unit gonna hard carry a whole NC run

[pulsar marlin]

So like theoretically if you have 200 LL

[grave hollow]

TY is better cos at least its defensive stat

[pulsar marlin]

You can cast scarlet oversurge every second

[grave hollow]

Imagine making 5LL coll for a SINGLE unit

[pulsar marlin]

Ngl she looks absurdly good for early ts just like sjw

[open oyster]

You laughing at this now until you have to build it 🫵

[grave hollow]

I hope that bitch flop already bud

[vivid wolf]

[grave hollow]

Well since im perk 5 im gonna be fine anyway

Not like anything change

[verbal anvil]

Does apip have more data is she a good spawn now that its been a month or so?

[charred jetty]

oh shoot

we got skills?

[cloud pollen]

It won't change status quo like Ainz

[charred jetty]

yes, not in top 4

[pulsar marlin]

Imo wippa 5 is valid

She provides a lot of value

[open oyster]

Afawkes,ashem,envy all definitely better choices

[cloud pollen]

TS unknown? She's pretty underrated in TS

[verbal anvil]

Fawkes>envy>ashem>estril>pip now?

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah, then zohra=wath>whoran

[tepid totem]

ye

[cloud pollen]

JD should I jump boat

[grave hollow]

Yeah TS not really great unless u managed to get 5IS coll, big bunny pet for her to perform okish

[raven narwhal]

Game uses AI art in cutscenes if you’re cool with that

[pulsar marlin]

She’s passable for ts, slightly improves my sion wr

[cloud pollen]

But is the hero model art like this

[raven narwhal]

I played it in launch and it’s kinda noticeable

[cloud pollen]

I see I see

[raven narwhal]

Yeah the splash arts are nice

[charred jetty]

the heck

[cloud pollen]

It just popped up when I'm launching minime in LDplayer

[autumn gull]

idk man, going zohra without any reason seems stupid to me

[cloud pollen]

Go Zohra + Maetria if you're into advanced gigabrain TS focus

[autumn gull]

if you’re pushing for t20 go zohra, but if you’re t100 with no chance at better and full focus NC why would you ever go zohra

[pulsar marlin]

Na u gotta see my Strat of getting alvida 40 early

[raven narwhal]

Zohra for ez early celestial tower

[pulsar marlin]

Logan can u post the new nc boss skills

This a big contributing factor to see how cooked nc is

[cloud pollen]

Don't worry sweetie, you'll still be cooked, new boss will not reverse your fortune

[pulsar marlin]

Cuz ngl seraph was easy as shit to kill

[grave hollow]

There is no hope for R8 unless they release r9 so dont worry about dat

[pulsar marlin]

I killed with rem+4 shit supports

[cloud pollen]

This new boss probably requires sophisticated tech again

[open oyster]

Ok release R9 pls so I never have to do NC invests ever again

[grave hollow]

no, u are staying with me forever bud

[open oyster]

Full focus on CR would be so nice

[cloud pollen]

No, I believe it's good time to merge R8 back into R7 because I no longer fear the competitions

[pulsar marlin]

@pallid knoll pretty pls new nc boss

[grave hollow]

[cloud pollen]

CR last round check

[open oyster]

10%

[cloud pollen]

Ah I'm missing way too many things to beat you, three awakened, tree levels, and worst of all collections are still meh

[open oyster]

Next month I get even farther ahead

[open oyster]

Best case I will have elthara and afawkes complete. Medium case would be either

[cloud pollen]

Is this another recycled AE boss

[torpid sand]

why does her booba not line up with her frame

like I get gravity, but that's more like a misalignment than them pointing in a direction

[cloud pollen]

It's AI man, I'm not even surprised if the arms weren't actually connected in the first place

[torpid sand]

torpedo ahh milk cannons

[grave hollow]

I saw something something normal atk and dragonspeak

[open oyster]

[cloud pollen]

Dragonspeak? Interesting, it's pressuing every single one of you to build more dragons

[grave hollow]

I heard someone saying Odys already

[charred jetty]

are you kidding me

this is a meme

[grave hollow]

[cloud pollen]

How many actually have him anyway, I can only imagine way less people built him than Elthara

[pallid knoll]

Looks like Ody will be BiS here

[pulsar marlin]

So sion here?

[cloud pollen]

I'm two of those by the way

[pulsar marlin]

It’s either sion or oddy

[pallid knoll]

Sion, Odys, Elth

[pulsar marlin]

But sion lowkey glued to threadweaver

[grave hollow]

Its normal atk AND dragonspeak

[pulsar marlin]

So it’s just wei?

[open oyster]

Orthos cheese it :copium:

[charred jetty]

wait hang on are you kidding me

[pulsar marlin]

99% damage reduction hell na

[charred jetty]

each time??

no stack cap?

[autumn gull]

that’s pretty insane

[pulsar marlin]

We can’t cheese that

[charred jetty]

we realize oddy hits like 2 normal attacks with dragonspeak per second right

[autumn gull]

that’s just hard-coded for oddy

[pulsar marlin]

If ur not a dragonlite ur not clearing this

[open oyster]

[charred jetty]

like at please pretend to have it be a non-tailored boss

[pulsar marlin]

Also yeah oddy is bis for this

[autumn gull]

@solar fractal congrats bud you get to finish oddy!!

[open oyster]

Skylan maybe

[cloud pollen]

You know what's depressing about roulette events? You can't gift the items

[charred jetty]

@willow bison so I'm building oddy next right

should I just pull now

[autumn gull]

or elth hopefully ?

[charred jetty]

[cloud pollen]

@willow bison Keep JD hands cuffed

[pulsar marlin]

I just finished levi 😭 don’t make me build oddy

[open oyster]

Elth already has another round to deal with

[charred jetty]

like no way oddy isn't meta here

are you kidding me

[pulsar marlin]

Ur literally out of heroes besides oddy

[charred jetty]

or sion...

[cloud pollen]

Well if he was hyped so much about being meta, why didn't any of you build him on release

[pulsar marlin]

U can’t orthos cheese this fucker

[charred jetty]

does sion do normal attacks with dragon speak?

[open oyster]

Yall forgetting about the goat skylander

[charred jetty]

well you can, but no way it's BiS

[tepid totem]

bs that oddy could be nc meta

[charred jetty]

you mean the dead HB from 2024?

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah 99% damage reduction+66% attack reduction

[open oyster]

Oh what about kaelon?

It's just kaelon again no?

[grave hollow]

Idk which Dragon will be meta but its for sure a Dragon will

[pulsar marlin]

Good luck using orthos cheese on that and getting good time

[grave hollow]

[pulsar marlin]

Also he has life leech

[cloud pollen]

Wait for roxsta to cook

[autumn gull]

orthos cheese with kaelon as marci

[open oyster]

Bud is cooking

[autumn gull]

lock in my prediction

[pulsar marlin]

Na this nc boss is cooked

[cloud pollen]

Nah get rid of Orthros because, it will upset lots of F2P that are in middle of building him

[pulsar marlin]

Go all in on ts is my best bet

[grave hollow]

I might need a certain mighty odys merc until i complete my own one

[pulsar marlin]

Where do I even use orthos in now

[cloud pollen]

Priest here

[autumn gull]

or just merc oddy

[charred jetty]

campaign

[pulsar marlin]

Bud I’m mercing wawkes rn I can’t afford to merc oddy

[charred jetty]

he does the time trap thing

[grave hollow]

So maybe no marci laios in r6

[charred jetty]

was pretty good in 2019

or orthros 5 pull

[autumn gull]

?? why you merc fawkes

[cloud pollen]

Why, would you merc Fawkes, for NC

[charred jetty]

dude he decreases haste

[pulsar marlin]

Cuz elth merc doesn’t work

[autumn gull]

go slime for a merc elth

[open oyster]

[cloud pollen]

Well what did they put on her?

[pulsar marlin]

My best elth merc was a 403 e60

[charred jetty]

I'm happy that oddy is good

finally I can build build build

[autumn gull]

definitely works better than fawkes, go use her at r6

[cloud pollen]

You should be putting MP

[pulsar marlin]

With ero instead of mp 😭

[verbal anvil]

Alright will test shes 409e60 min? With 5 is?

[pulsar marlin]

She loses too much time

[charred jetty]

I think I can afford the next HB too

[cloud pollen]

Yeah that's why Valeria missed out a top 200 before

[autumn gull]

huge

[wraith fjord]

It is not evaluating nicely I’ll look at it again later I have a wee before I need it done

[cloud pollen]

Go ham and don't hold back, she won't let you down

[open oyster]

How much DI you got wts

[pulsar marlin]

Ima prob pop drac trial early to test her in campaign and such

[autumn gull]

alr, lmk if you need help

with HBD swap and decent NC placements f2p should be able to build 3 HB in a year

that’s actually not bad, now without HBD swap it’s cooked of course, but still

[pulsar marlin]

No what?

How u getting the other 2

[verbal anvil]

cant wait

[grave hollow]

So maybe no marci laios r6

[open oyster]

Yes. 1.5k DI per year is 2 hb and the 3rd from swap

[grave hollow]

Imagine if, marci laios wont do any other round

[charred jetty]

like uh 1100?

[pulsar marlin]

1.5k from where

[open oyster]

NC top 200

[charred jetty]

acutally just from passive

=dragons

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235

[pulsar marlin]

Think they migrate to r2

[charred jetty]

meow average like 660 per HB

so I'm pretty comfortable

[open oyster]

Wow I am only sitting on 800 currently. Would be nice to swap for elthara and hold my 800 for next hb

[charred jetty]

not historical bias at all

[cloud pollen]

I still think swapping highborn is wrong and should not even be an option

[pulsar marlin]

That’s 2.5 hbs a year

[charred jetty]

I sent the chart above

it's true

[cloud pollen]

Or limit it to VIP14+ because reasons

[charred jetty]

NC isn't that big

[pulsar marlin]

Nc helps you scrounge a few extra copies

[charred jetty]

if you striaght up don't play the game, okay that's pretty bad

[open oyster]

wut dragon average is 750

[charred jetty]

but if you just play NC normally then you only lose like 200 DIs per year

[pulsar marlin]

Jd said it’s 660

[autumn gull]

avg is 750

[charred jetty]

no no, meow;s average is 660 for me so far

[open oyster]

He is referring to "meow" account

[pulsar marlin]

If ur averaging 750 that’s 2 hbs a year

[charred jetty]

meow has some dark magic rng

[charred jetty]

no uh meow on my acc

[pulsar marlin]

If ur t200

Otherwise it’s 1.5 hbs

[open oyster]

Yes that's what we said

[charred jetty]

that's total given NC rank

[grave hollow]

The math is not mathing tho

[charred jetty]

you average 2 per year as top 200

[pulsar marlin]

But f2p hitting t200 isn’t really possible

[charred jetty]

it is though

[open oyster]

[charred jetty]

well ok probably not anymore

but you can do like top 10%

or top 8%

[pulsar marlin]

bud have you looked at the times

[charred jetty]

that's only 3 copies less

[grave hollow]

I did, im f2p+ btw

[open oyster]

Im top 200 f2p

[noble hornet]

Why are you tagging me here

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah ur like ancient

[charred jetty]

I said above

[open oyster]

S1x

[charred jetty]

if they actually play NC

I am not talking abotu sweating it out

I'm talking about literally just doing the free hits and copy some guide

don't tweak or tune anything

let's say they get 14%

[grave hollow]

U missed other things too, like DT12 clear

[charred jetty]

that's only like 200 less DI than min-max

so again, NC is not that big

[open oyster]

Yeah but 6% or so should be doable for f2p and that's not bad. There are other events that make up the difference for 2 per year

[charred jetty]

it's just really big for f2ps because they have no other way of getting DIs

if you are a dolphin or low spender, it's like whatever tbh

[pulsar marlin]

I think I just hit 2

[charred jetty]

what, 14%?

after like 2 years?

[grave hollow]

New f2p wont, unless r9 is out

[charred jetty]

you have to be literally me rank at NC

[pulsar marlin]

After a year and 2 months

[charred jetty]

aka major skill issue never really learnt the gamemode

and I was getting like top 10% f2p

we don't talk about NC before 1 year in

[pulsar marlin]

Tbf the boss rotations were easier

[open oyster]

They really do need to release R9. R8 is already faster than R5 and R6

[charred jetty]

I'm also quite old

[grave hollow]

And R7 bud, t200 wont count

[charred jetty]

NC dropped like during my 3rd or 4th year

[pulsar marlin]

If they release gouldos level bosses

[charred jetty]

4th I think

[pulsar marlin]

Ur just cooked as shit man

Like getting 403 ty checked by begris isn’t fun

[charred jetty]

to the point that you can't even kill the bosses though?

I think you might be overestimating the abilities of top 14% pkayers

or we take a step back, top 20%

maybe I'm just too abstracted away from r8 new f2p pains

@autumn gull what is your NC rank and how old is your acc?

[noble hornet]

They haven't adjusted rewards in years (other than adding DI)

[charred jetty]

we push for that next

need staves and wish leaves

[grave hollow]

Yeah give more DIs pls

[pulsar marlin]

He’s 29% and just hit a year

[charred jetty]

wow

NC is so cooked

[pallid knoll]

Dont think that will ever happen.

Until a new, more broken faction comes out

[charred jetty]

should we just delete NC from the =rgm

[gilded sapphire]

Resource Generating Modes (RGMs)

• TR = Twisted Realm (1 team, challenge a boss for damage, rewards based on ranking)
• TS = Treasure Scramble (2-7 teams, set teams and they auto fight, pvp ranking for rewards)
• CR = Cursed Realm (6 teams, bash enemies for damage and get rewards based on ranking)
• NC = Nightmare Corridor (6 teams, try to kill all the bosses as fast as possible, rewards based on time)

Ranking Reward Distribution

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1hkyvyz/tscrnc_rank_rewards/#lightbox

[pulsar marlin]

Tbf he did do wawkes and skip zohra

[open oyster]

CR is worse though

[pulsar marlin]

Im rn banking hard on this swap

[charred jetty]

wow...

ok new playesr are actually so cooked

[pulsar marlin]

Im 25% and 1 year in

[grave hollow]

We just dont talk about CR until 3 years old

[charred jetty]

they also had the advantage of not joining too late compared to HB dragon release

[pulsar marlin]

With 2.2k spent

[charred jetty]

for people actually starting now

how the frick are they catching up 2 years worth of DIs

they are not

[pulsar marlin]

Nc is just COOKED

[grave hollow]

4

[charred jetty]

they are literally cooked

like what kinda of sorcery do you need to overcome 4 HBs of heroes

[pulsar marlin]

we don’t talk about cr, deadass gettingdiamond 1 and dipping

[grave hollow]

R8 has 4 years old players btw

[charred jetty]

yeah but HB only 2 year old

[pulsar marlin]

You basically have to cope on wawkes to get limp to di range

[charred jetty]

which is what I was trying to say

[grave hollow]

And even with full HB u need other things too, like tree

[open oyster]

Wait that's actually true R42 is 4 years old now I believe

[charred jetty]

people starting 2 years ago have it nice

[charred jetty]

hmm that's true

[pulsar marlin]

Like there’s literally no other way to get to di as a new player

[grave hollow]

Can u even compete with 4 years of tree behind

[pulsar marlin]

Unless u build elthara first

[charred jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/visa-visa-logo-aesthetic-airplane-gif-25346644

[open oyster]

Tree isnt even that bad thankfully for NC

[charred jetty]

CR though

good luck with that bro, see you in 2030

[grave hollow]

Hahah, no its matter a lot in NC

[charred jetty]

wow NC is so bad

[pulsar marlin]

It’s pretty bad ngl until u hit 107

Once u hit 107 on most important branches tree becomes less relevant

[cloud pollen]

107 is not enough, you need a lot higher for sorc to be able to get Elthara working

[open oyster]

Yeah but 107 isn't even the major hurdle is what I am saying

[cobalt abyss]

it matters a lot im pretty sure but like that’s not even the worst part for new players

[pulsar marlin]

But before 107 holy shit comps suck dick

[cloud pollen]

Pre-107 you have no choice but to massively make up for it with uber collections

[pulsar marlin]

Isn’t it 138 for elth

And 107 for sion

[open oyster]

It does but up to 107 which isnt that bad compared to say collections and just 5 star 5036100 heroes

[prisma carbon]

My days are so borin cuz there is nothin to play in AFK arena anymore 😔

[grave hollow]

Daily remind that juice is the worst thing to whaling for

[cloud pollen]

I don't know, but all I can say is, I'm not even sure if it's because merc fixed collection or not, but I finally got R6 working to free up Envydiel for R4

[pallid knoll]

Rings any bell to be a woke?

[pulsar marlin]

Desira?

[cloud pollen]

Lady Simona Desira, she will literally show you her spine as she smile

[prisma carbon]

Invasion and Mania are lowk even more boring then PoT 😭

[pulsar marlin]

Is it woke time alr?

[grave hollow]

And some comps wont work with a smol tree, like R2 or R3

[pulsar marlin]

Shouldn’t it be a 4f before

[charred jetty]

uh desira?

[open oyster]

Someone tell them to fix NC and new player stuff during new york q&a

[charred jetty]

wait we just had gb woke though

did they forget?

[pallid knoll]

So soon... Woke gb, wilder, then gb again..

[grave hollow]

She changed faction and become a mooler now