classic-questions

[shy crescent]

The 4f you really need are: Palmer, Jerome, Misha, Talimar, Gorren.

Seems like most of those are underway.

Who is worth getting rid of: Eorin. Maybe Bronn and Rayne just for higher prio heroes, but they are usable

[tepid totem]

still lookin for advice

[shy crescent]

So close yet so far

[polar grail]

wouldnt u use more reds?

[inner talon]

Which awakaned and stargaze should i go for now? Should i start spending gems on stargaze or daconics?

[grim hamlet]

what in the world is that team 1 lol

[shy crescent]

Making it freaking work

[grim hamlet]

or team 2. what is happening there lol

[shy crescent]

I don't have Marci, Laios or Orthos

[grim hamlet]

but marci and laios are in garrison now...

[shy crescent]

Well I could build Orthos, but I am afraid he is rotating. I am mercing Laious today

Yeah, I cannot get Laios and Marci built, just one. I was told to do Laios first

[autumn gull]

i already answered

[odd tapir]

What is the reasoning for getting 3 si30s before taking baits from chest?

[shy crescent]

immediate impact

versus long term gains

[tepid totem]

@autumn gulltoo much to calculate

[odd tapir]

Okay makes sense, I wasn't sure if there was some unlock or something gated behind 3 si30s

[waxen kraken]

Thank you so much!!
is gorok worth using a grit on as well? or is he fine at e only

[autumn gull]

show dragon box

[pallid knoll]

225/445

[shy crescent]

Nope. Pets pay off huge at 18 and reso 18, but that is a long ways away. a few si30s right away will help progress significantly

[shy crescent]

I forgot to mention him. You eventually want 20330 Gorok too. He is higher in prio too imo, he has team wide buff and doesnt require much invest

[pallid knoll]

Since u have so many whites. And drac reds are very in demand

[tepid totem]

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[waxen kraken]

Okay thank you a lot!! my goat <3

[pallid knoll]

Yo get that velu upgraded

[autumn gull]

you need velu, elth and begris si40 rn, later on melion si40
HB will pay for themselves when building

[odd escarp]

Does envy need furniture & Aurelia need furniture?

[autumn gull]

envy needs only 3f, can slow build or later on 9f, aure wants 9f

[odd escarp]

Thank you , Thank you 👍

[tepid totem]

so epic ratio then

[autumn gull]

more epic centered for sure

you have loads

need 600 reds for velu/begris si30, so that leaves 400/2000 for 3-4 si40s

[autumn gull]

can even do a lower ratio than this ngl

[pallid knoll]

Ye true. Hmm lets see

[autumn gull]

but something along those lines, just check =ratio

[gilded sapphire]

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[hybrid breach]

Out of everyone in that comp orthos is the one you’re worried about leaving?

[pallid knoll]

155/505

[grim hamlet]

I've definitely said this to him repeatedly. And so many others in here lol

for some reason everyone seems real worried this will finally be the end of the literal king of NC

and it never is

[autumn gull]

i agree @tepid totem, use reds for 32-34 and the rest is white

[hybrid breach]

He’s got a gimmick they will likely never release again and the perfect partner in crime with lib as a crazy battery that does dmg

[grim hamlet]

[autumn gull]

my goat orthos

[grim hamlet]

that being said, given the time he showed above, I wouldn't rush him with sg either

[hybrid breach]

Anyone who can manipulate the clock is invaluable in nc, just look at misha

[grim hamlet]

just keep picking up chally copies

[charred jetty]

Ok but hear me out

[shy crescent]

They all might leave. I have to invest in Laios and Marci for 6 months and that is just a reality. I can wait to finish Orthos when more of the comp is actually complete at will

[grim hamlet]

not like there's much else to do with those coins

[grim hamlet]

you don't need marci lol

[charred jetty]

A hero that just does 50x Bert othros damage in 10s

[grim hamlet]

it kills with lib

marci makes it faster

but your time is like 1m+ in that round

[shy crescent]

when i build laios tonight i will try it out

[grim hamlet]

so the classic lib orthros is a massive improvement

[hybrid breach]

Laios is an all around great support that’s highly unlikely to be leaving anywhere soon, orthos I’ve stated reasons above, Marci? Sure maybe but she’s not as vital as the other two

[autumn gull]

lib orth with supps has been absolute NC champ for ever

[shy crescent]

I am not building Marci right now. I was told too do Laious first

[hybrid breach]

Oh so sion and envy

[grim hamlet]

right but again, lib is a dps lol

its just faster with marci

but faster meaning like 20-30s to 10s

not like barely killing with ashem speed lol

[shy crescent]

Palmer, Orthos, Lib, Laios and who? I cannot use knox

[grim hamlet]

um

[autumn gull]

why can’t you use knox

[grim hamlet]

not sure. been a while since I had to dig that deep

[shy crescent]

he is carrying another shit team

[grim hamlet]

ok yea nvm dont' rush orthros

[autumn gull]

gotta sub it

[hybrid breach]

Use any buffer tbh

Slap Jerome in there or smthn

[grim hamlet]

its not gonna significant change your rewards given what I'm hearing

[autumn gull]

don’t rush orth, but you should get him when you consistent t100 TS and

[shy crescent]

jerome bgris are stuck in t4

[grim hamlet]

just keep getting his furn and keep buying him from chally

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474037037634945064/image0.gif

[autumn gull]

i built that mofo and it dragged me to my first two DI

[shy crescent]

i dont have a single meta comp rn. i am busted af

[hybrid breach]

[autumn gull]

show box

[grim hamlet]

I'm pretty sure you didn't have a knox carry team though

[hybrid breach]

That could just be a lack of understanding of nc

[autumn gull]

i thought we had similar boxes though

[grim hamlet]

yea I'm actually kind of confused about this tbh

did feisty start a new account or something? cause the name isn't that new in here

[shy crescent]

mercing begris

[cobalt abyss]

Bud ody finally found a spot in cr

[grim hamlet]

haha yea we saw it coming from test

and figured it woudl be better on stable, seems like its a legit improvement this time

[cobalt abyss]

Yeah it’s a good 2-3b improvement

[grim hamlet]

I heard 1b but maybe its still changing

[cobalt abyss]

Maybe!

[grim hamlet]

oh wait

you gotta remove the OM bonus

[cobalt abyss]

true.

[grim hamlet]

multiply the last score by 1.036 and compare to that

[tepid totem]

hows the new hypo

[grim hamlet]

why would you merc a begris of all things when you have multiple rounds missing a dps? that feels quite odd

wouldn't it be better to merc say an aath for r2 and make that comp real?

Or honestly could even try mercing an orthros

[cobalt abyss]

Yeah you’re correct it is a 1b improvement but it’s safe to say that it could be a good 1.5-2b by the end of the week

[grim hamlet]

merc orthros is solidly worse then your own cause of lack of gear manip

[shy crescent]

Round 4 was my crux and that is the key I found to finish it. I would love to use levi or someone more impactful

[grim hamlet]

but like, that's a low bar right now

[charred jetty]

Yeah, something like that

That’s how they can oust Bert and orthros

[grim hamlet]

not with the way NC gimmicks have been going

[autumn gull]

we have similar acc but i pulled levi already, and i have watha/fawkes instead of zohra/thoran so

[shy crescent]

I can make 1-2 meta comps, but then I cannot get 6 kills

[charred jetty]

Can’t they just add more envy’s though

[autumn gull]

it’s tough

[grim hamlet]

doesn't matter though if you can't beat the gimmick. We have to fully acknowledge and play with the gimmick in multiple rounds right now

[shy crescent]

I am building Pippa soon, that should make round 5 meta or close to

[grim hamlet]

the more the gimmick matters the more valuable orthros is

[charred jetty]

What’s the gimmick

[solar fractal]

Bruh I hate tree can only get 8s with 0 fort

[grim hamlet]

because time stop time still ticks down gimmick times

[charred jetty]

Just Bert orthros?

[pallid knoll]

He's a good boi

[solar fractal]

[tepid totem]

@autumn gulldont you mean use reds for 32-35 then the rest white

[charred jetty]

Oh you mean like use Bert orthros with the dps carry

[autumn gull]

no, i didn’t

[grim hamlet]

I just mean like they keep adding these bosses that do stuff like unapproachable DR until it drops X seconds in

[solar fractal]

Lib ortho is lowkey bad it doesn’t work due to bosses have specific mechanics

[shy crescent]

I will build Orthos tonight after I build Laios if that is what I am advised to do, I was just waiting until Laios was available to dump the invest since I can use the challenger coins for flora as well

[grim hamlet]

But time stop time still ticks down X

[charred jetty]

Oh

[solar fractal]

So ortho gonna fall off soon

[grim hamlet]

so whereas Envy alone would be hard capped to time X

[charred jetty]

Isn’t that just because they are modeling AE bosses though

[grim hamlet]

lib orthros can get under time X

because time stop time still counts against X

[charred jetty]

Maybe they stop modeling AE bosses soon

[solar fractal]

Aren’t last two bosses repeats

[charred jetty]

I see

[solar fractal]

R4-5 at least

[charred jetty]

I literally don’t know who is in NC

[tepid totem]

k will do what u asked

[autumn gull]

do velu and elth rn, hold the rest

[solar fractal]

Must be fun

[grim hamlet]

The two things that would actually kill lib orthros out of meta probably are:

1. A return to "sack o' HP bosses" with completely ignorable gimmicks (seems pretty unlikely)
2. More and more time cheat prevention gimmicks (I think 2 bosses have this right now, this is more likely to eventually kill them someday)

[charred jetty]

Oh like some bosses kill heroes in NC?

[solar fractal]

Wait are you saying that lib ortho can work on all rounds?

[charred jetty]

Oh shoot

Oh like Kane

[solar fractal]

Cuz they don’t which means they’re gonna fall off soon if they don’t get a boss that can be killed with them

[charred jetty]

Is Kane a boss

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474030915247145136/image0.gif

[tepid totem]

@autumn gullwhat about 30-31, whites?

[autumn gull]

reds

red red white white white red red red red red

[charred jetty]

They’ll just come back when they release a boss that matches what cc said

=ratio

[gilded sapphire]

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[grim hamlet]

Some do but its not like kane and never really an issue. No there's two bosses right now that have baked into their gimmick time cheat prevention. Where their gimmick says something like "something happens for X seconds" and X can only be ticked down with real battle time, time stop time does not count

[solar fractal]

What if that never happens

[grim hamlet]

this is why r3 remains 20+ seconds right now for example

[solar fractal]

You can’t base “they’re never gonna fall off” on they might add a boss

[charred jetty]

Oh like directly counter Bert and orthros

[grim hamlet]

and watch and misha

but yea

hilariously misha is still used in r3 though of course

[charred jetty]

NC is so interesting

All about maximizing impact of frames

[grim hamlet]

some of it can still be cheated just not the entire gimmick like usual

[solar fractal]

Do you think the devs know why some gear manip works

Or is it just bugged and they go with it

[tepid totem]

is it a good idea to si30 velu

[solar fractal]

Anything but boots cuz haste is understandable

[charred jetty]

Probably just some random synergy they didn’t foresee

[grim hamlet]

sion boots

[charred jetty]

I don’t think it makes sense logically for them to design lower gear to be better

[grim hamlet]

explain that please

[solar fractal]

Haste

[grim hamlet]

nope

[charred jetty]

Is it skill order maybe?

[grim hamlet]

agi boots does not have haste

[solar fractal]

The faster he ults the better and skills delay that

[autumn gull]

si30 is mandatory and you should already have it. you can si40 her outright, you have enough resources to and it’s a very strong investment

[charred jetty]

Sometimes it just hidden

[grim hamlet]

agi boots do not have haste

[charred jetty]

Like uh agi weapon

[solar fractal]

Dodge?

[tepid totem]

i think i'll save

[grim hamlet]

lol

[solar fractal]

[grim hamlet]

only jd and the camp mains care about dodge

[charred jetty]

But like you want to get hit more?

I don’t see how that makes sense

[grim hamlet]

it doesn't lol

agi gear is nonsense

[solar fractal]

Oh crit?

[charred jetty]

Dodge gives same energy

[tepid totem]

i have 713 draco reds and 1468 draco whites

[charred jetty]

But it’s like you want less

[grim hamlet]

you realize we're reducing his gear right? so we're taking away these good stats

and somehow its better

[shy crescent]

sometimes things dont work as intended in coding, and it if its not gamebreaking just leave it

[charred jetty]

There’s definitely som evidence funny business going on

[tepid totem]

it'll prob go to 800 when the next dragon comes

[autumn gull]

you should si30 velu rn, absolutely no doubt. everyone in this chat would agree

[solar fractal]

Idk leave me alone

[charred jetty]

Sounds like terrible coding

[solar fractal]

That’s why I asked lmao I feel like they just go with it and don’t know why it works

[tepid totem]

@autumn gullthis is after i si30ed velu

[charred jetty]

And a great way to spiral into irrecoverable tech debt

[shy crescent]

yeah, all code is terrible after a certain amount of maintaining

[grim hamlet]

I think someone (I assume bob) proved that agi weapon has effectively secret haste on fareal because his animations run faster (which is literally what haste does)

[autumn gull]

have you done elth si40 yet?

[grim hamlet]

but i don't think that applies to every agi gear user

[tepid totem]

yes

[hybrid breach]

sounds exactly like lilith

[charred jetty]

If I were a senior engineer I would boot the guy that tells me “oh yeah the code doesn’t really work and I don’t know why”

[grim hamlet]

and is pretty dumb

still doesn't explain the boots though

[charred jetty]

Ye

Lilith should hire Bob

[solar fractal]

I mean it’s not like Lilith is a good company

[tepid totem]

And now to save

[shy crescent]

Where is the issue though in the code? You have to find it. This shit is probably spaghetti code

[solar fractal]

Either hidden haste or Lilith coders are trash

[autumn gull]

i would send the si40 on her. you’d have enough to si40 begris when you ascend, tavriel doesn’t need si, and HB pay for themselves

but can hold if you’d want :)

[charred jetty]

I feel like it’s just tech debt stack

[hybrid breach]

and the difference between boots vs non boots is massive in a lot of places too like its very obvious something beyond stats is happenening and i doubt its like secret haste related bc its so consistently better everywhere

[charred jetty]

Pretty sure afkj doesn’t have any of these weird shenanigans

[shy crescent]

probably using AI for most of the coding nowadays

[charred jetty]

Oh btw I cracked the specter Wei/Zohra phenomenon the other day

[tepid totem]

pretty sure tav needs si20 for nc

[charred jetty]

This would lowkey make it better

[solar fractal]

Sion 5 star boots have been a thing before AI

[hybrid breach]

AI in coding has been around longer than sions existed

[autumn gull]

yea, thats not si40

[charred jetty]

I need a test subject for Harvey

[hybrid breach]

i dont like this sentence

[tepid totem]

ah yes i forgot

[charred jetty]

I also really dislike Harvey design and lore and stuff

[atomic lodge]

Hey hey ! What's the requirement to make Bronn useful please ?

[charred jetty]

But whatever I’ll just pretend I know it

[tepid totem]

dracos being a resource pit and such

[charred jetty]

E30

But bronn is strictly early game only

[tepid totem]

bronn is not meta tho

[hybrid breach]

hes not really useful outside of earlygame

[pulsar marlin]

Sheesh, I got a 2:53 and dipped, my r2 didn’t peak and was alr 1k diamonds in so I gave up

[atomic lodge]

Oh

[tepid totem]

wow

[atomic lodge]

Chapter 31 is still considered early game ?

[tepid totem]

yes padawan

[hybrid breach]

yeah

thats like 2 days in?

[grim hamlet]

anyway for your NC, generally the best things to merc are DPS's. Because every bit of stat on them helps. Mercing a support is generally something you do when you have all the DPS's because the impact is lower compared to a missing DPS. And you have a lot of missing DPS's in there

[tepid totem]

who is a rarity these days

[charred jetty]

Imo up until ch40 is still early game

[pulsar marlin]

1-4 days

[pulsar marlin]

Whenever u 6k early game stops imo

[hybrid breach]

if only 2 was inbetween 1-4

[charred jetty]

Hopefully I’ll find some time to pave 40-46 so up to ch46 is early game

[atomic lodge]

Okay si keeping it for now (and not swapping it) is a good idea

[charred jetty]

Yeah

[pulsar marlin]

I mean my campaign teams are scuffed as shit

[shy crescent]

I have Wawkes merced as well, I try to use him when I can. My issue is really just getting 6 kills. I spent about 1000 diamonds before I figured out Begris would get round 4 down

[charred jetty]

At the start cheap is just awesome

[pulsar marlin]

Envy burst, dae rem rbsg, ashem rbsg, sion/seal, and charm

[charred jetty]

What do you think about Harvey first celepo if he turns out good in TS and camp

[autumn gull]

i’d say once you max camp rewards (ch46) you can be mid game

[shy crescent]

I am hoping that getting Pippa comp for round 5 will give me more characters to mess with and hopefully can use a better merc

[charred jetty]

Yeah

[autumn gull]

maybe TS t100 is part of that criteria ng

[pulsar marlin]

Bud you deadass can clear with just wippa+sai

[charred jetty]

I’m currently just grouping them by paradigm of teams

[autumn gull]

and NC 5% / t200 is mid-late game

[shy crescent]

I don't have wippa

[charred jetty]

Early game = make teams work as cheap as possible

[pulsar marlin]

Merc one for ez kill

[autumn gull]

late game is genuinely competing in CR

[hybrid breach]

yes the wannabe furry with a sub/dom kink as the first main celepog new players interact with

[shy crescent]

i need merc for round 4 though 🙁

[charred jetty]

Mid game = solidify your teams to make them actually work at deficit

[autumn gull]

just use SJW for r5, it’s a sad clear but i got 3m30 with it

[pulsar marlin]

Try killing with skylan

[charred jetty]

Late game = stabilize teams until you can auto multis to powercap

[hybrid breach]

i guess hes more of a masochist than anything tho

[inner olive]

crazy description of him but very accurate

[charred jetty]

I don’t understand why they did that

[autumn gull]

no sorry, he aint making it past lys in prio from what ive seen

[charred jetty]

Who asked for furry kink hero

[cobalt abyss]

I started getting t100 at ch43 back on my old acc

[pulsar marlin]

Mid game is di to 5%

[charred jetty]

Oh?

He’s not just Knox 2.0?

[grim hamlet]

maybe merc a fat sky and try to get it down with L elth and fat sky combo. it won't be fast without fat pony but it is a real comp so it probably still does some slow kill

And then envy for fast kill of r4

[inner olive]

has his survivability in campaign been tested yet

[pulsar marlin]

Needs more testing man

[autumn gull]

no cheat death is just not playable in current meta. you’d need sait/alna if he’s good enough but those heroes are for envy type dps and he isn’t that type of uni

[pulsar marlin]

His trial isn’t even out yet

He has a pseudo cheat death

[autumn gull]

his buffs are decent but mid in NC, he seems to just die in PVP fights

[drowsy terrace]

And?

Just build lol

[charred jetty]

Also I think Harvey specter

[grim hamlet]

he doesn't have a cheat death?

[autumn gull]

he could be really strong, but definitely doesn’t overtake new player priority to build knox

[pulsar marlin]

yeah about that

[charred jetty]

I just realized

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-popsicle-season-2-ice-cream-lick-gif-12319206288007579948

[charred jetty]

Is this frickin suits

Anyways

[drowsy terrace]

You broke?

[hybrid breach]

like the lawyer show?

[pulsar marlin]

His si30 kinda acts as a pseudo cheat death

[charred jetty]

Harvey specter is going to be the combo

[drowsy terrace]

Freaky fuck

[autumn gull]

that tongue goddamn it’s gross

[charred jetty]

Yeah

[shy crescent]

If he sees any use in NC I am building, gonna be watching the leaderboards tonight

[autumn gull]

also, isn’t alvi si20 fine if you use treat

[charred jetty]

Total coincidence that the pro lawyer dude in the show is called Harvey specter

[pulsar marlin]

We need early game testing for him tho

[charred jetty]

But anyways

[pulsar marlin]

Cuz from what I saw with what casual showed

[charred jetty]

Harvey specter should be really strong

[tepid totem]

hes not on test rgms

[pulsar marlin]

He’s like giga broken for seal

[hybrid breach]

"why shouldnt we add a hero with his kinks on full display?"

[drowsy terrace]

Mehira?

[grim hamlet]

does it? it doesn't seem to provide any protection

doesn't cancel any hits or provide any period of invulnerability

[hybrid breach]

shes a succubus, hes in it for the love of the game

[pulsar marlin]

It heals him for missing hp up til a certain percent

[grim hamlet]

I mean...

[pulsar marlin]

Which is why it’s a pseudo cheat death

[grim hamlet]

if healing worked in pvp we'd have healers lol

[charred jetty]

I feel like china version will get a different Harvey

[autumn gull]

you ever see zolrath stroking that hourglass like a freak

[pulsar marlin]

It’s basically inflating his hp pool to be bigger

[charred jetty]

I want a different Harvey

[grim hamlet]

if his hp doesn't go from above 30% to 0 in one hit lol

[hybrid breach]

hes an obsessed weirdo its a bit different

[charred jetty]

Abaden overheal

[grim hamlet]

and either way the enemy just keeps hitting him during that

there's nothing to relieve the targetting

[charred jetty]

Very meta comp 2026

Solid top 40% TS comp

[pulsar marlin]

Alr whenever jd gets his hands on him he can test

There’s some broken interaction involving Misha

[drowsy terrace]

What invest you want for harvey? I'll let you hop on and fool around

[charred jetty]

Early game heroes can actually tank

Ideally 209e30

[drowsy terrace]

9f?

[charred jetty]

Or 209e60, direct competitor to Knox

[pulsar marlin]

He seems like a 300 e60 hero

[drowsy terrace]

In this economy

[charred jetty]

Idk what his furn does

Can’t remember

[solar fractal]

M40

[autumn gull]

i saw a post on reddit that got deleted about someone in R4 TS that had not a single relevant hero built (40980 isabella type thing) and he said that after a year of trying he finally reached 100% in TS 😭

[charred jetty]

200e30 also works

[hybrid breach]

acting like furn means anything

[charred jetty]

[autumn gull]

my man thought bigger number better person

[grim hamlet]

why are we just spewing random numbers lol

[inner olive]

his 9f is quite good

[charred jetty]

Just cheap invest

[solar fractal]

Your right only number that matters is 5036100

[hybrid breach]

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474030915247145136/image0.gif

[charred jetty]

Isn’t that pretty terrible

[grim hamlet]

reducing ers damage by 40% is good now in pvp? that's news lol

[charred jetty]

[drowsy terrace]

But seriously who tf even cares about health loss besides aure and elth

[pulsar marlin]

That’s a dogshit 9f

[charred jetty]

Yeah

[inner olive]

pain does something lemme check

[charred jetty]

Pain is good

[pulsar marlin]

At most 303 e60

[charred jetty]

9f is useless

[solar fractal]

Pain is bad

[drowsy terrace]

Freaky fuck

[charred jetty]

[pulsar marlin]

Pain is ok

[solar fractal]

Kinky

[charred jetty]

What’s that movie

[grim hamlet]

the 3f increases the number by 1 btw

[charred jetty]

Anyways

[charred jetty]

That’s like 50%

[pulsar marlin]

Pleasure is better, he gains 100 energy per stack

[charred jetty]

Which like actually good

[grim hamlet]

50% of a small number is still small lol

[inner olive]

each stack of pain reduces damage dealt by a hero by 20%

[charred jetty]

[grim hamlet]

[drowsy terrace]

[charred jetty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648563210559160320/1055594367634653294/Yamete.gif

[autumn gull]

his 9f makes normal attacks inflict pain. if it wasn’t so slow it would be incredible to permanently taunt all 5 enemies just with normal attacks

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474037037634945064/image0.gif

[autumn gull]

but it did not end up that way

[grim hamlet]

I mean he'd just die lol

he has no cheat death or much protection

his protection is his ult

[autumn gull]

exactly

[grim hamlet]

but like....

[inner olive]

if i understand correctly 9f on him makes it so he gives a stack of pain that reduces damage by 20%, on top of reducing their damage by another 40%

[grim hamlet]

shuna exists. velu exists, all the energy drain people exist

[drowsy terrace]

Harvey is 1a

[charred jetty]

Uh it’s like 4 -> 6 hits

[drowsy terrace]

Invest at your discretion

[charred jetty]

I feel like lowkey irs pretty good

[drowsy terrace]

[charred jetty]

Especially on Harvey who is untargetable like frickin 90% of th battle

[grim hamlet]

build it then, let us know

I'm sure you have a hoard lol

[charred jetty]

6 auto hits is a pretty big ask

I do yeah

Meow probably already pulled

No way he is not meta in CR

Let me check

[tepid totem]

no one is using him

[solar fractal]

Best thing about furn is you can take it off to see if it does a difference

[drowsy terrace]

What stats he want on his coll fatk?

[autumn gull]

DEF, fatk prob

[river shuttle]

[inner olive]

a fuck ton of defense probably

[pulsar marlin]

Keep reading it gets worse

[drowsy terrace]

Oh wha?

Misha type build

What class is he?

[grim hamlet]

Damn even sturm has given up on him already

[solar fractal]

That’s huge

I hope he’s usless like ody

[autumn gull]

yea he has misha’s skill but it doesn’t scale with def buffs gotten during the battle and it’s 25% instead of 140% (max of 500% for misha)

[inner olive]

tank

[pulsar marlin]

Ok he’s dogshit

[drowsy terrace]

Damn

So wuci coll has more slots

[charred jetty]

Nope not yet

[autumn gull]

i think he’ll be meta in CR, not used in NC unless there’s some specific boss with stunning or something, and dog shit in PVP

[river shuttle]

Holy whale coll

[grim hamlet]

ody is a solid bump in CR this week

[river shuttle]

He counter aure no?

[grim hamlet]

odie not so much so far

[hybrid breach]

[charred jetty]

Oh trash in PvP?

[drowsy terrace]

This looks pretty mid

[autumn gull]

also bugged

[charred jetty]

He looks really good for camp

I’m pretty hyped

[autumn gull]

but zohra AND harvey is just stupid right? he should be a sub for her

[autumn gull]

that he does!

[drowsy terrace]

I dont think so

In fact

[hybrid breach]

its crowdsouce what do you expect

[drowsy terrace]

We should add wei and sion

[charred jetty]

Hmm well morael skriath was a thing in that TR boss before

[drowsy terrace]

The blender comp

[autumn gull]

lmao

[charred jetty]

Hopefully he works at E

What chapter are you @drowsy terrace

[hybrid breach]

99% of the dmg comes in the last 5seconds tho so burst aoe is more important

[autumn gull]

wouter said harvey is like if skriath got added in 2026

[hybrid breach]

idk that he actually does much in the way of dmg

[charred jetty]

Oh this was way before the rework

[inner olive]

with his attack rating buff he could be ok at 1 copy ig

[charred jetty]

I was saying, he actually has great scaling

500% damage every second

[autumn gull]

can only imagine he’s used at E for his perma stun

[charred jetty]

Well okay idk about great, but it’s decent

[hybrid breach]

itd need to be better than the dmg of our current aoe dps

[hasty flax]

New hypo good yet?

[autumn gull]

no verdict yet, not lookin good tho

[hasty flax]

Fkn hell ive delayed lys for a year now xd

[autumn gull]

could be CR value

[charred jetty]

He’s not going to be a late game dps contender I don’t think

[tepid totem]

i dont even intend to build lys

[charred jetty]

Maybe in camp, not anywhere without giga deficit

[tepid totem]

@subtle timberhe was used on an outgoing boss so no

[pulsar marlin]

He’s the fucking goat

[hasty flax]

I need. My adrian is sad with his si40

[tepid totem]

mines 30930

[pulsar marlin]

I need to do alvida 40

450 reds and 150 whites away

[tepid totem]

save em si40s lol

[shy crescent]

what does your intel say about orthos?

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-screaming-cat-disappearing-monjjunirawr-cat-scream-cat-screams-gif-2353694372143718210

[shy crescent]

that is what i am afraid of

[hybrid breach]

bud youve had the entire server tell you exactly why hes not going anywhere

[grim hamlet]

I'm not understanding hte risk to you

just leave him on your furn wishlist

and pick up chally copies

[shy crescent]

he is 6f already

[grim hamlet]

what's the risk?

[shy crescent]

i am saving chally coins for anni swap

[hybrid breach]

chal coins

[hybrid breach]

??

[shy crescent]

need to decide if i spend them on flora or orthos

[hybrid breach]

just buy orthos

[shy crescent]

im going to be swapping flora for someone

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah until they release zolrath as a boss

[drowsy terrace]

Max

[shy crescent]

flora is 150k vs 250k, if i am going to stargaze for a hero it makes more sense to gaze for orthos

[drowsy terrace]

Just rc capped a bit

[olive yoke]

How useful are new garrisons

[torpid seal]

Very

[hybrid breach]

except youre passing up an actually useful hero

[drowsy terrace]

Just for you

[shy crescent]

i need lysander and serenmira for nc too

[pulsar marlin]

Very crucial, marci and Laois for midgame, shalltear for early

[tepid totem]

@subtle timberr1?

[grim hamlet]

you definitely don't need serenmira for nc

her comp is very hard for even built boxes to use

and since you don't have aath I don't see why you care about lys

[pulsar marlin]

Seren is more for zohra Mae these days

[tepid totem]

and just like that rem keeps fallin

[pulsar marlin]

And Lysander is for alvida wath horsey

[olive yoke]

I'm low on engrave resources rn, I have shalltear already, so laois or marci first?

[pulsar marlin]

Marci to 309 e60

[hybrid breach]

laios before marci

[drowsy terrace]

Yes

[pulsar marlin]

Laois is cheaper

And has more utility

[hybrid breach]

laios isnt at risk of losing their nc spot

[grim hamlet]

he said for nc

[olive yoke]

thank you all

[shy crescent]

i am just building resources before i decide what to do. i am at 480k challenger rn and enough sg/diamonds for 18 copies. once i build laios i will prolly build orthos

[pulsar marlin]

Lysander for nc? Isn’t it only for r2

I built orthos late as shit

[grim hamlet]

lys lives as long in NC as aath does and not a moment longer lol

[olive yoke]

why would I retire

[grim hamlet]

its funny he's super worried about orthros but apparently not at all worried about lys

even though lys has entered and exited multiple times already as has ath

and even now is pretty subbable

[pulsar marlin]

Wath leeching off lys to remain relevant

[olive yoke]

[river shuttle]

Not rly

[hybrid breach]

seren has very often been replacable in her appearances

[autumn gull]

🥹

[shy crescent]

I am swapping flora for another Celepog no matter what. That is happening. Those copies cost 150k chally coins each. Orthos costs 250k each. So it makes more sense to figure out what other celepog I am building and dumping my flora into them and then gazing for orthos

[grim hamlet]

well I guess you just need big pony and then its fine. without pony I don't htink she has any place

[river shuttle]

Big pony and ur own elthara

[hybrid breach]

big pony big elth coll big tree

[pulsar marlin]

Asaf bum ass woke tho

[drowsy terrace]

Not my goat

[autumn gull]

lys will stay in TS/CR but yea, NC is doubtable

[pulsar marlin]

Like I’ll rather build Mae before asaf

[hybrid breach]

even chasing t50 in the past you could afford to sub her

[grim hamlet]

that's a crazy take lol

[river shuttle]

Shes ts only bruh why would you build her

[hybrid breach]

as someone who built 40960 5* seren day1 and chased t50 nc i can confirm she was very replaceable a lot of the time

[pulsar marlin]

Cuz my ts rank lowkey dogshit

[hybrid breach]

even now you can t50 without seren

[drowsy terrace]

Why am i not t50 then?

[pulsar marlin]

It looks like Whoran is gonna be homeless very soon then

[grim hamlet]

I still use asaf to this day every TS cycle as early as 5t and I am constant t20, t10 not uncommon

[hybrid breach]

in fact i did it last week

[river shuttle]

[drowsy terrace]

[grim hamlet]

she's also never left NC

[pulsar marlin]

You don’t sniff glue in ts, I do

[drowsy terrace]

Buddy i no wheil

[river shuttle]

I got t20 without someone else correcting my hits

[grim hamlet]

every time she appears to leave she finds a new spot

[drowsy terrace]

Piny is a work in progress

[drowsy terrace]

Nc?

[vagrant vigil]

does shalltear have any certain comp she strives in or have somebody like how daemia does with rem? also does she have a min invest to be good?

[drowsy terrace]

Pipe down

[river shuttle]

Yes

[drowsy terrace]

And just for emphasis im not gonna correct it

[river shuttle]

Seal

Or zora both can be good

[drowsy terrace]

Stall unit, i think 20030 was enough last i remember

Nah imma pipe people down

[river shuttle]

Idk how tho this gear manip pissed me of

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/see-ya-later-stinky-gif-17875300164690260837

[pulsar marlin]

It’s like 200 e30 to 209 e60 eventually

[tepid totem]

shalter is 20960 now?

[pulsar marlin]

Sion kinda fraud now

[tepid totem]

sions out of meta now?

[drowsy terrace]

Almost

[pulsar marlin]

Hes been slowly creeping out

[solar fractal]

Me when I lie

[drowsy terrace]

We have better washing machine heroes

[pulsar marlin]

Zohra goated fr

[river shuttle]

Is there a better r3?

[drowsy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-talking-about-allan-the-oval-truth-be-told-s4e10-gif-27386872

[solar fractal]

Envy is 5/6 btw is he creeping out too?

[drowsy terrace]

Some would argue yes

[hybrid breach]

hes washed

[solar fractal]

Two ppl that don’t play the game and a %er 😭

[pulsar marlin]

But seriously it sucks for new accs that sion is a mandatory 409 e60 and only really finds use in copium skylan subs and nc

[drowsy terrace]

No slander in my presence

[hybrid breach]

do your own rgms and we can talk

[drowsy terrace]

Buddy

[solar fractal]

Bud

[drowsy terrace]

Nah i have a life

[river shuttle]

You %er too soon

[drowsy terrace]

I touch grass

[pulsar marlin]

Hey bud I make di that’s good enough

[solar fractal]

Is it tho

[hybrid breach]

"i cant spend an hour a week to do rgms"

[drowsy terrace]

Correct

[pulsar marlin]

Yes

[drowsy terrace]

Next complaint?

[river shuttle]

3*

[hybrid breach]

that you took an acc you dont even play

[drowsy terrace]

Yes

[drowsy terrace]

What of it? Next question

[solar fractal]

Sion used in new r6 he’s not leaving any time soon out of meta

[tepid totem]

wow

never thought i see the day what sion gets kicked out

[pulsar marlin]

In nc? Whut

[hybrid breach]

exactly why i said for you to not get my acc

[solar fractal]

See that’s why your a %er don’t know anything

[river shuttle]

rude

[drowsy terrace]

Hey i wanted to quit, but "some guy" said i didnt have to quit

[drowsy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756

[river shuttle]

Ill get it back

[pulsar marlin]

Bud cr is for big accs i cant compete

[drowsy terrace]

Is this a promise?

[solar fractal]

Zxw knew he was never gonna get it cuz he’s bad so he convinced you so he can pilot

[pulsar marlin]

If you can hit t50% with my acc in cr I’ll be impressed

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474030915247145136/image0.gif

[drowsy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-rage-angry-annoyed-whatever-gif-5126333390325209476

[oblique hull]

=temporalrift

[solar fractal]

And you fell for it smh

[drowsy terrace]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1423503305476149308/image0.jpg?ex=68e08c43&is=68df3ac3&hm=80cbdf44255b205632a05735ac169ba19f38198b6d4ab3ce447c068f0a1b4726&

[river shuttle]

Kinda smart

[oblique hull]

thanks xD

[drowsy terrace]

[dapper gate]

pull wippa or wait for new woke

[oblique hull]

Quick question, i just returned playing after a long while and i'm kinda lost on my old acc should i just create a new one? or should i keep going in my old one?

[dapper gate]

how long is long while? most likely restart

[oblique hull]

i mean idk probably more than a year

[dapper gate]

yeah =restarting

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[oblique hull]

335 days*

[dapper gate]

youll keep your other profile as well youll just make a new server profile

also make sure you follow =todolist to set yourself up for success

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan + Randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[oblique hull]

so i wait for a new server to open uh 🤔

but that could be weeks from now 😅

[pine geyser]

Is REM still the best hero to garrison first?

=campaign

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618027271906918400/1320930606573555752/newgitgudguidev2.png?ex=689b45be&is=6899f43e&hm=2a04a9aec55d8216c661a2499dccc95d8e112a970bbca008f0c9e34918e7a0bc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1516&height=1168

[oblique hull]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[inner olive]

should i garrison shalltear or shuna first

[solar fractal]

Shuna

[shy crescent]

anyone with a big skylan i can merc?

well i cut 7 seconds off my time with orthos

[summer vector]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[willow solar]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1423503305476149308/image0.jpg?ex=68e08c43&is=68df3ac3&hm=80cbdf44255b205632a05735ac169ba19f38198b6d4ab3ce447c068f0a1b4726&

[summer vector]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[sturdy umbra]

Anyone?

[crystal yarrow]

I got like 9 copys in 430 card

[inner olive]

who better for early ts daemia or selene

[crystal yarrow]

I dont think u should even build selene

Yh 😭

[inner olive]

she's really good in early ts and campaign

[crystal yarrow]

U shouldn't build her in general until u finish lavatune

[inner olive]

💀

[umbral wadi]

how do I awaken her

[torpid seal]

Unlock her si50 and need A5*

[umbral wadi]

ok!

[crystal yarrow]

Guys should i go for levi before elthata

I WANNA KNOW WW IF M40 LEVI IS STILL BETTER

[harsh acorn]

Probably not? Could see what casual thinks

[crystal yarrow]

Time to summon the whale

@solar fractal

[tepid totem]

do elth lol

[solar fractal]

Yes

Levi better than elthra

But don’t pull for M

Save till you can get 1 star

[crystal yarrow]

Wasnt his m40 a huge break through tho?

[hybrid breach]

not worth going for if you cant bring to A1

[maiden crane]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[hybrid breach]

better to just hodl and see if better hb releases atp instead

[crystal yarrow]

When is a new hb dropping

[river shuttle]

Falling off

[hybrid breach]

if you only have enough for M by the time you have enough for A1 id imagine

[crystal yarrow]

I got 500 di rn

[hybrid breach]

and "huge breakthru" is quite the overstatement id say, it makes him usable in some spots

[crystal yarrow]

And do you think levi a1 will fall off anytime soon?

[river shuttle]

Nuh

[crystal yarrow]

I see

[crystal yarrow]

He bis in nc ts and cr right?

[tepid totem]

levi wont drop so fast

[hybrid breach]

do not pull unless you can a1

[crystal yarrow]

Im just asking

[tepid totem]

skylan will

[crystal yarrow]

What abt elthara

[open oyster]

skylan will never fall off

[hybrid breach]

he isnt bis in nc anymore but he is useful

[tepid totem]

shes safe

[river shuttle]

Levi is broken just m40 doesnt seem to do enough atp

[tepid totem]

shes used in all rgms

[hybrid breach]

i wouldnt take advice from hat of all people

[river shuttle]

Not as expensive as other teams

[hybrid breach]

doesnt change that its not bis?

[crystal yarrow]

Isnt he bis in r4?

[tepid totem]

wouldnt be surprised if elthra will need 40960 in the future

[hybrid breach]

no

[crystal yarrow]

She need 40960 rn

[open oyster]

bud is 5 months behind

[hybrid breach]

hats alergic to investing in heros, they didnt even want to give si40 to sion

[crystal yarrow]

[hybrid breach]

and when they did it was nearly a year after his release

and they still complained about it

[tepid totem]

lies

[crystal yarrow]

Guys is the next hero releasing a draconic?

[hybrid breach]

no

[crystal yarrow]

What is it then

[hybrid breach]

not a dragon

its not been announced yet bud

[crystal yarrow]

When is a new drago gonna be released

Like according to release schedules

[hybrid breach]

patience is a virtue

[river shuttle]

Could be

In fact we donnu yet🤷‍♂️

[hybrid breach]

same hero in both companions and classic

so no it will not be a dragon

[river shuttle]

I want a dragonlite 🙁

[spare ginkgo]

=dragons

=dragonics

[crystal yarrow]

Samee

[spare ginkgo]

=eeee

=furn

oh ok

mb

[river shuttle]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235

[tepid totem]

god i hope next hero is not a collab

[spare ginkgo]

ty

skylan after lan right? according to the guide

[grim hamlet]

Not impossible, they have wokes already lol

[river shuttle]

No

[spare ginkgo]

or the newest female dragon ive seen her used in nc a lot

dont know the name

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235

Gave up trying to execute custom command #31 after 1 minute because there is already one or more instances of it being executed.

Gave up trying to execute custom command #31 after 1 minute because there is already one or more instances of it being executed.

Gave up trying to execute custom command #31 after 1 minute because there is already one or more instances of it being executed.

[river shuttle]

Elthara but she needs expensive teams most likely

[spare ginkgo]

i could pull it off with her

[hybrid breach]

they had wokes on release

[spare ginkgo]

after seeing teams using her

[grim hamlet]

Oh, I forgot that lol

[river shuttle]

In nc?

[spare ginkgo]

yea

[grim hamlet]

Well either way, whatever hero is next, that patch covers anni I believe

[river shuttle]

Do you have pony and rabbit lvl 27+

[spare ginkgo]

oh that i dont have

[hybrid breach]

companions doesnt have same anni date tho

[river shuttle]

then the whole comp doesnt work

[grim hamlet]

Yea Idk whether companions shares that with us or not. They shouldn't but the whole setup is weird

[spare ginkgo]

then which one should be next? (dragon)

[hybrid breach]

do you have 750+ dg

[spare ginkgo]

e no but i can gamble, i did it with aestrilda and it worked

[hybrid breach]

then no

[spare ginkgo]

meh

[inner olive]

awakened hero and highborn hero drop rates aren't the same

[grim hamlet]

What wokes and dragons do you have anyway

[spare ginkgo]

when it comes to highborn lan, wokes: envy, ashem, aestrilda, aathalia

[hasty flax]

@solar fractal when r w evjiling

[solar fractal]

Wts

[grim hamlet]

You all have your own language now?

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474030915247145136/image0.gif

[hybrid breach]

[solar fractal]

@hasty flax hold for now he’s not used anymore

[hasty flax]

Who r we building

[solar fractal]

I thought you said pulling smh I can’t understand you

No one

Wait si40 alvida trust

Your very close to t20 alvida will do it

E60 Randle for nc

[grim hamlet]

Well technically Levi I guess. But if definitely wait until you have enough. Besides getting screwed on rates you could also get screwed on the prio changing on you again, like how Fawkes is now at the very top

[solar fractal]

Holy you have lots of sg

[hasty flax]

Do we do si40 vida

[hasty flax]

Yeah I was delaying lys for a year bow

[solar fractal]

Ye build lys if new hypo is trash but for now wait for testing

[grim hamlet]

Is that a lot?

[tepid totem]

keep delaying

[spare ginkgo]

aight

[solar fractal]

For him yes

[grim hamlet]

Fair

He does like gambling

[hybrid breach]

dolphin doesnt have si40 vida yet?

[solar fractal]

No

[hybrid breach]

i thought all of the r48-50 gang did that ages ago

[solar fractal]

@hasty flax see

I’ve been begging him to do it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474030915247145136/image0.gif

[hasty flax]

Bro youre the reason i havent done it

«Wait new hb, wait new woke, wait dims»

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1258469606603882529.webp?size=96&animated=true

[solar fractal]

Ok fuck it

Do it

[grim hamlet]

can't believe you haven't done it yet

even some NC main accounts have it already

[hybrid breach]

[tepid totem]

this

[hasty flax]

…. Damn

=ratio maybe i can push campaign easier now

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1365328577561886740/RDT_20250425_0707255117226094771476277.jpg?ex=680ce8d3&is=680b9753&hm=b814c2f065b318f58746e04bb4fa6e42892297e393fa95795bd0046ce5451d3b&

[tepid totem]

new powercreeps when

[hasty flax]

I swear if she falls off next week… we will not kiss for a month @solar fractal

[grim hamlet]

[solar fractal]

Who’s we

[hasty flax]

Done

[solar fractal]

Bro I was joking…

[drowsy terrace]

He's clearly french

[drowsy terrace]

You bricked his acc

Give him yours now to compensate

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1475903565179518986/image0.gif

[summer vector]

is there a GG guide?

[drowsy terrace]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[hasty flax]

Bruh

[tepid totem]

bruhh

[summer vector]

thanks

[hasty flax]

Im expecting t20 this ts calc @solar fractal

[solar fractal]

[hasty flax]

E60 randle next?

[solar fractal]

Sure

How many cores do you have?

[hasty flax]

You dont read my messages again babe….

[solar fractal]

WHEN

[hasty flax]

@solar fractal

[solar fractal]

Ok send it

[hasty flax]

Does it help in ts?

[solar fractal]

Nc

[hasty flax]

Done

[summer vector]

This is my current team, would going for luminos flight be prio here, or is there a different collection I should go for first?

[hasty flax]

Flighto is good. Powerlevel your carry

[summer vector]

And Ig I can always use these to draw right, no use hoarding them

[hasty flax]

At the start yes, but generally try to keep at least 30 per week

Since wishlist is guaranteed after 30 pulls

[ornate drift]

fawkes or lys si40 is more important for NC>CR>TS ?

[crystal yarrow]

Does lys even need si40?

[summer vector]

so powerlevel randle then, right? as he will be the carry after the trial one is gone

the guide doesn't recommend upgrading 4 skill heroes past elite+ till you have enough copies to A, in randle's case it wouldn't be too bad if I upgraded him to l+ right? otherwise I wouldn't be able to keep leveling him

[hearty crag]

selene comp needs simona , lava?

[solar fractal]

No

[hasty flax]

randle you can do mythic if youy can get 4 copies. Also if you're at chatper 16, try to pull 1 copy of elthara. She'll be better. And yes powerlevel randle/elthara if u get her

[summer vector]

Sounds good, ty ty

[inner olive]

oh yeah pull for elthara asap while the discount from the event is still going on

[river shuttle]

Simona???

[verbal anvil]

Dragonlite should bethe next new hero released or no?

[river shuttle]

Dubbsy said it’s not the next

Cuz it’s same on companions as classic

[verbal anvil]

:

Aw man

[hearty crag]

@river shuttle yea someone sent me this comp

[drowsy terrace]

Tomfoolery

[hearty crag]

debating a decent cele unit start that i can swap to knox/harvey after pushing tower

[inner olive]

did he like build selene first

[drowsy terrace]

well its aure, lib or selene

[hearty crag]

yea selene first

[drowsy terrace]

intersting individual

[inner olive]

oh yeah also simona isn't required in that team probably

[inner olive]

peak gooner behavior

[hearty crag]

seems to work since highest f2p on server

[sturdy umbra]

Anyone?

[inner olive]

what server are you on

[hearty crag]

1990?

[hybrid breach]

bud is from the future

[inner olive]

that guy isn't on your server then

[hearty crag]

1190 *

[drowsy terrace]

the pets may take longer but your heroes will be much better than what im looking at

[river shuttle]

Wtf

[inner olive]

unless he made a new account recently

[hearty crag]

latest server out rn

[river shuttle]

[inner olive]

i remember seeing him like 2 months ago pushing cele tower with built selene

[summer vector]

Unions don't affect the coll and it's stats at the end of the run right? It's just for the run itself

[hearty crag]

im hardstuck on 35-16 with knox built and they are on 36-4 so surely they;'re doing something right

[inner olive]

it just makes battles easier

[summer vector]

👍

[inner olive]

the difference is knox kinda needs e60 to carry properly alone, selene doesn't

how do you have knox built that early tho

[hearty crag]

tested out sg only, but i think i can make new account with properly optimized start now

[river shuttle]

5 years future

[hybrid breach]

50 maybe

[hearty crag]

but requires making cele unit first then swap to hypo i think

[river shuttle]

Atp potentially 25 server per year yea youre right

[sturdy umbra]

After how long

[drowsy terrace]

Idk its different for each account

I think it should be around 3 months to hit that point

[sturdy umbra]

Yeesh probably won’t restart then

[inner olive]

new account with no elthara you're gonna hate your life

[hearty crag]

will just require built rem earlier

[drowsy terrace]

Id give it a try, account progression is insanely easy now

[sturdy umbra]

It’s more about the tedious stuff like peaks of time, candy crush, shadow invasions, lab, gallery, etc

[inner olive]

rem isn't as consistent of a carry as elthara

[hearty crag]

consistency doesnt matter since if u beat it even once its gone and done anyways

[sturdy umbra]

^

[hearty crag]

elthara does trivialize it yes

[idle thorn]

What do I pick out of monthly & deluxe card chests?

[crystal yarrow]

Guys does shaltear need e30

[drowsy terrace]

Yea i understand the peaks can be tedious but free resources are free resources. Forest can literally be done slowly without you even having to play the mode. Lab will eventually become 3 clicks and youre done. Gallery... i wont say anything

[drowsy terrace]

Need? Want yes

[inner olive]

e30 is free so yeah

[drowsy terrace]

Whats in them again?

[crystal yarrow]

What is her build

[idle thorn]

About this chests

[drowsy terrace]

Red chests, baits, cores

[crystal yarrow]

Guys what's shaltear build

[inner olive]

when you grit a hero to another hero, do normal E copies get transferred too ?

or just e+ and above

[river shuttle]

All

[river shuttle]

Weapon Head chest legs

like every other hero

[summer vector]

I don't really understand how the etching part of the collection works, I only got 1 Myth this run at it was a fatk, which is bis for randle

[torpid seal]

Why u restarting? Think you’re doing fine

[summer vector]

so can I like etch that single myth and stop there and do the next run?

or can I not use the same collection in the next run

[torpid seal]

Can’t use same collection

[summer vector]

so in that case, It's basically keep recycling untill I get 2-4 myth fatk's right?

and then just take that and whatever else I got

[crystal yarrow]

I meant like signature and engraving

[hearty crag]

want to try pulling more 4f

[torpid seal]

Pull for them now instead of working on 2nd celehypo

It’s normal to be stuck at ch35-36 for a lil

[hearty crag]

feel like i can push higher tho with more optimized start tho

ill try playing two accs see how it goes

[summer vector]

or is there a better strategy for that?

[oblique hull]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan + Randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[torpid seal]

Pray for rng

[summer vector]

hahaha, alrighty so keep rerolling till I get more mythicals

[river shuttle]

If you wanna waste time yes

[river shuttle]

Not the best idea

[summer vector]

is there a way to not waste time

I got these on the first run for flighto

kinda cooked besides the myth

[river shuttle]

Just play the game

[river shuttle]

100 dias

[summer vector]

100 dias it is

[summer vector]

mmh

[charred jetty]

What the CS on CS drama

[charred jetty]

No just keep all your colls

Only time to start dumping is when you have 200

200 will take you a LONG time

But there will be niche cases where you wish you had more colls

Just keep them, you don’t need the 100 diamond

[inner olive]

is it possible to make it to ch16 before tonight's reset

[charred jetty]

Yes

It is possible

That’s about all I can say without seeing your actual roster

[summer vector]

200 collections?

[charred jetty]

[prisma carbon]

Is the new hypo decent?

[charred jetty]

Just keep all of them from GG

[summer vector]

oh so you can make multiple of the same collection? thought it was 1 of each

[charred jetty]

Don’t recycle

[charred jetty]

=newhero

[gilded sapphire]

Because we're going to get this question a lot;
We require multiple weeks of testing before confidently placing a hero or pet in the priority guides. All information you hear about the hero or pet is speculation. Nothing is confirmed or set in stone. We recommend you to save your pulls if you haven't already started summoning for any hero or new pet. Please be patient for testing.

[hybrid breach]