classic-questions

[upper hinge]

what does the new code give

[charred jetty]

aka 40 SGs every month

aka 10 SG every week

[dark musk]

thank god a got a account

[charred jetty]

I don't think building alna is giving you 10 SG every week of value

you could argue that orthros also has to be built

but then bert needs to be built before orhtros

[hybrid breach]

needed for the comps he is in

nc/cr

[charred jetty]

what does thoran do in CR btw

[oak stirrup]

Problem is RGMs besides TS is closed off for a long time with current atmosphere, so if they don't even have her they won't have a single reliable team almost at all, have fun being double digit for a year

[charred jetty]

I've always found it weird that a stall hero is in CR

[hybrid breach]

debuffs

same reason he is in nc

[charred jetty]

nah they can break top 100 with 3 wokes if they play well

[dark musk]

oh okay, yeah I’m mainly just focused on TS I do need to learn more about the different modes

[charred jetty]

definitely by 4 wokes if they follow the guide

[dark musk]

Yeah basically, to stall and debuff heros

[charred jetty]

oh

[oak stirrup]

I know right? Reso 18 all relevant dims most relevant dragons and still have F2P badge up, just missing about two wokes needed to be decent in TS

[charred jetty]

I thought he was dps in NC

[hybrid breach]

no hes sup

[dark musk]

Exactly

[charred jetty]

I'm clearly one of the best NC players here

[olive jewel]

Do Elthara's nodes.....kinda fucking blow?

[charred jetty]

[dark musk]

u sure?

[oak stirrup]

👨‍🍳

[dark musk]

I’m kidding @charred jetty I’m sorry don’t ban me

[oak stirrup]

Let's just say JD is top 200 in R4

[hybrid breach]

jd you should ban that guy

[dark musk]

nuh uh….

[dark musk]

Jesus Christ

[oak stirrup]

Anyone who thrive in R4 can claim to be good but regardless, JD has yet to rank 1

[hybrid breach]

he hasnt done his own rgms in ages

[charred jetty]

no I'm like actually the worst NC player you'll ever meet

[oak stirrup]

I can claim though, I did rank 1 for a single week

[charred jetty]

well worst out of the people who know a thing or two about other aspects of the game

[oak stirrup]

JD put all his talent points in Campaign Mastery and neglected mastery to all other modes

If he played cards equally you probably do look at best all rounder

[charred jetty]

I used to be investment theory main

now I just main campaign

[oak stirrup]

But yeah, JD would have had a hell of a time with clippy accoujt

Went from 66-40 to 68-32 in two days without much effort like just let it auto and switch

[charred jetty]

I feel like I've solved midgame -> endgame campaign though

basically just auto through all multis, change things once every half chapter or so until pcap

ch1->ch31 is just elthara spam now

I just need to update the ch31-40 teams, and figure out how to bridge the gap between ch40 -> ch46

[oak stirrup]

For "mid game" run Shemira Hildwin Envydiel Shuna/Lavatune Lyca

[dark musk]

Uhh……

[charred jetty]

then I'll just tell people to stop pushing and camp until they can run midgame meta

and then just auto through

[oak stirrup]

And then you realise some missed timing mess up your team because they change every 4 stage drastically

[hybrid breach]

16->31

[charred jetty]

nah it's robust enough that you can basically just auto through

I pushed gankpeter from ch53 to ch59 in 1 sitting

[oak stirrup]

Deficit?

[charred jetty]

like pcap

[oak stirrup]

Gieb team

[charred jetty]

I only had to change stuff like 2-3 times

[oak stirrup]

I'm curious if it will still work for 6x

[charred jetty]

ch78 is lowkey easier than like ch74-77

I just auto my ch78

no need to change comps

or positioning or anythign

[oak stirrup]

You underestimate how much they nerf from other clears

[olive jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[charred jetty]

well sometimes I guess have to

[agile sparrow]

I'm stucked at 31 rn... Don't a solid second comp and Eltahara without Ivan does low dmg

[oak stirrup]

You try doing it at their deficit

[charred jetty]

I mean I'm pushing pcap

[torpid sand]

She was feeling generous I see

[charred jetty]

I don't doubt that it used to be harder, but I'm pushing as fast as physically possible

no need to optimize camp more than just max stability at powercap

[olive jewel]

[charred jetty]

no need to run comps that are better at extreme defict, because campaign is too easy

KT honestly same thing

[torpid sand]

[charred jetty]

just throw all the points into stability

[torpid sand]

Jacko bud my cards are on the way

[olive jewel]

lets go

[torpid sand]

Someone saw my dogthras deck on moxfield and commented, inviting me to the dogthras discord

[charred jetty]

maybe if they opened up ch79 through to 90 we might have a bit of a challenge

first comp to fail will probably be fawkes

[agile sparrow]

Any tip on 31-> campaign? Stucked

[charred jetty]

but can just replace fawkes with tasi cheese, and good to go for another 3 chapters

[olive jewel]

I'm part of the tortured existence discord

[charred jetty]

stuck is normal

[torpid sand]

https://moxfield.com/decks/3jbDjON4h0KKwMoYkFCGNQ

[charred jetty]

ch31 is much hardwer than before now because you can't just elthara abuse anymore

[torpid sand]

This is the deck

[olive jewel]

Is the stuck worse now?

[charred jetty]

refer to =earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1444410826961322146/8v0Ga9h.png?ex=692c9be9&is=692b4a69&hm=16420762014c1675ddadad22154602562ffb94068ae6bb51648f888bebdb0421&

[charred jetty]

this is outdated, I'll update it when I have time to test

[olive jewel]

With Elthara so easily clearing?

[charred jetty]

yeah it's so much worse

[olive jewel]

well I guess you have Crandle from 1-16

[charred jetty]

it used to take a week for people to get to ch31 where they need to start worrying about 2 team

[olive jewel]

so you should have him ready

[charred jetty]

now it's like, literally day 1 ch31

they get there, and suddenly nothing works anytmore

[olive jewel]

bud didn't even ask about my tortured existence

[charred jetty]

but honestly they just need to clear ch28 day 1, that's all that matters for day 1

everything else can wait for little bit more investment before continuiing

[olive jewel]

What a cursed sentence

[charred jetty]

but yeah, new comp for ch31 is probably elthara + ivan randle

[agile sparrow]

Yeah and if I try to copy formations everyone is using AFawkes or Pippa

[charred jetty]

fawkes meta let's gooo

[olive jewel]

so if, for example....my apprentice was on chapter 12 after two months....

[charred jetty]

=restarting

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[charred jetty]

in fact, =quitting

[olive jewel]

[charred jetty]

=find-a-different-gaming

[agile sparrow]

My mentor is legit ignoring me :c

Can I change it? Or I lose something?

[charred jetty]

always good to have a mentor from here

you can change mentor I think, but you won't have one for a week

probably not worth it

[agile sparrow]

zzz

[olive jewel]

its crazy

progression is so fast that you legit dont have time to get a second mentor if you have to kick yours

[hybrid breach]

you can at least get the missed rewards by being a mentor yourself

[agile sparrow]

But it says me 24h

[charred jetty]

oh

I thought it was longer

24 hours worth changing to someone here

I heard @hybrid breach was a vip 19 player

[hybrid breach]

is it tho

just find someone to add on fl and merc that way

[charred jetty]

he has good mercs

[hybrid breach]

jokes on you i dont even have an acc

[charred jetty]

I already have an apprentice sadly

[charred jetty]

find someone here, or on #apprentice-mentor

[agile sparrow]

Thanks

[charred jetty]

woah this is good metnor

that guy is pretty good at the game too

[hybrid breach]

careful with accs like this, they likely have too many 5* 4f to have their useful wokes/celepogs available

[charred jetty]

oh

forgot about that

they should fix that honestly

surely sort by power and not by ascension, cmon this isn't 2019

[torpid sand]

I'm driving bud sorry

What's tortured existence? Sounds like a 1v1 format meta deck

[agile sparrow]

That was the problem with mine, it had only 5* useless heroes

[olive jewel]

not....meta exactly. its a pauper deck

tier 2ish

[torpid sand]

U had my curiosity, now u have my attention

Pauper u say

[oak stirrup]

Pauper = peasant

[olive jewel]

yeah, it's a magic the gathering format where you can only play common cards

[oak stirrup]

I know, I built pauper EDH before with soldier tribal theme and some equipments thrown in

And my commander is a 4/4 effectively unblockable horsemanship

Oh wait fuck that's not allowed in there

Oh well

[grand rampart]

on the guides, when it says make sure you have 10 copies, it means 10 e copies right?

[oak stirrup]

10 uncombined E copies

[charred jetty]

why are there metas in MTG

[grand rampart]

and is it fine if i make L copies of fodder or just get them to L+?

[charred jetty]

can't you just bring in all the broken cards, print and cut them out

[pulsar marlin]

Why r u not using westie envy

[charred jetty]

and just stack them all

[oak stirrup]

There's meta for every competitive and even non competitive game what are you on about

[charred jetty]

[hybrid breach]

synergy

[oak stirrup]

Proxy is not allowed in most tournaments, if you casual play doesn't matter

[charred jetty]

what's proxy

[hybrid breach]

printing a card

[grim hamlet]

print and cut them out lol

[charred jetty]

oh

[oak stirrup]

Also you're limited to four copies of a card for most

[charred jetty]

or just buy suspiciously cheaper look-alikes

[hybrid breach]

a "proxy" for the real deal

[oak stirrup]

Counterfeit cards and you can expect to be banned for life

[charred jetty]

like in tournaments?

oh I didn't know TCG was p2w like that

[oak stirrup]

Yes don't think they are fools MTG actually has a way to figure out

[grim hamlet]

MTG basically invented gacha lol

[charred jetty]

I tried to get into pokemon TCG the other day, gave up after like 3 rounds

[grim hamlet]

its the original gacha

[charred jetty]

too complicated

[grand rampart]

?

[charred jetty]

true, all the gacha games were modeled after TCGs

[oak stirrup]

MTG probably fits you better because resource management and you need to think about your deck composition

[pulsar marlin]

Bud almost every tcg is p2w

[oak stirrup]

Aka "investment decision"

[charred jetty]

there's no free pack though

[olive jewel]

bud they are the most p2w

[charred jetty]

don't think you can f2p TCGs lol

you can trade though, which is cool

I wish we could trade in a non-gamebreaking manner

[oak stirrup]

Well yeah the point of TCG is setting value on piece of paper

[olive jewel]

only make them L if you know you can do L+

[grim hamlet]

sure you can. Get really good and get a sponsorship and a team

the pros don't pay for the cards lol

[olive jewel]

yeah but they paid a bunch to get there

[charred jetty]

just proxy everything

[grim hamlet]

they aren't playing with fakes

[oak stirrup]

Spend pocket money taking part in those local shop nights and you get rewarded with booster packs

[charred jetty]

entire frickin deck of proxy cards

[grim hamlet]

they just dont pay for them

[charred jetty]

win so much that a team sponsors you

[oak stirrup]

Also there's actually different format where some series are not allowed outright, otherwise everyone deck has four copies of P9

[charred jetty]

then you get free real cards

[grim hamlet]

idk if they keep them

[oak stirrup]

They will buy for you when you say you need particular cards

[charred jetty]

lowkey sounds like a cool optimization problem

[grim hamlet]

like stores and teams have a lot of cards available

[olive jewel]

not usually

[charred jetty]

like crank up the GPU to run trillions of simulations

[grim hamlet]

and so the players they sponsor or are part of the team borrow and build then return them

[oak stirrup]

You don't need to keep though because your money earned you could probably buy those cards one by one outright

[charred jetty]

the evaluation cost of a turn is like trivial anyways, and it's all integer math

[grim hamlet]

well borrow ig. The teams have separate builders and players i believe

[olive jewel]

the margins on being a pro are slim though so you need to save the money for like....food and rent

[charred jetty]

well I think the idea is you work a normal job

and just pro on the side

or stream MTG

[oak stirrup]

It's just like this game, U want to be the 0.1% like proxy? Good luck with that to over 99% of you

[olive jewel]

deckbuilding is collaborative and some team members are better at it

[charred jetty]

not if you compute enough

[olive jewel]

For pro tours a lot of the big teams rent a "testing house"

[oak stirrup]

MTG involves a LOT of minmaxing and buying packs casually just don't get you cards you want most of the time, need to buy online

[charred jetty]

well idk how the game actually works, but surely there's some way to brute force it

[grim hamlet]

yea buying packs is just for limited play

[olive jewel]

difference with TCG and gacha is that more money stops helping at a certain point

[charred jetty]

isn't that true with gacha games too

[olive jewel]

once you can afford a deck you want whaling more does not improve your chance of winning

[oak stirrup]

You have a deck of lands (mana resource) spells creatures and other stuff and you need enough mana to summon stuff

[charred jetty]

is it chance based?

I've played hearthstone before, is it similar to that?

[grim hamlet]

that and your physical items have actual resale value

[oak stirrup]

Chance based on your draw, most cards don't have chanCe based mechanics

So you could have shuffled bad and be stalled forever

Because no mana or only mana

[grim hamlet]

you shuffle a deck at the beginning and draws are generally random so yes, there's chance

[olive jewel]

But like imagine if there was no investment. no furn no colls no engrave. Once you ascend a hero they are maxed in power. It would be pretty easy to match everyone else if you just buy the top teams outright

so anyone who whaled is going in on equal footing

then its just skll and luck

[pulsar marlin]

The og gacha fr

[olive jewel]

yea very

[grim hamlet]

yea you can't outspend to win a mirror

mirrors are decided by luck and skill

[charred jetty]

do you get to pick your matchups?

[pulsar marlin]

Random

[grim hamlet]

no

[charred jetty]

also is there skill in the actual gameplay itself?

[olive jewel]

yes

[charred jetty]

or just deck build

[grim hamlet]

loads

[olive jewel]

it is IMMENSELY complicated

[pulsar marlin]

Yes most tcg are skill based

[olive jewel]

Magic is turing complete

[charred jetty]

oh is it like poker, but you bring your own deck?

[pulsar marlin]

Magic has prob the second highest skill ceiling in tcg

[grim hamlet]

tons of skill in the actual gameplay. Both in making correct choices and in understanding and playing your opponent, poker style

Deckbuilding also does not stop when the match begins in a way. Generally competitive mtg involves a 3 game series

you have a small set of cards called your sideboard that isn't in your main deck initially

[charred jetty]

? like you can execute code with MTG?

[olive jewel]

Magic has less raw math and probability but also much much more complex game states

[grim hamlet]

but you can pull from between matches to optimize once you recognize the matchup

[charred jetty]

oh

[olive jewel]

Yes. Obviously only like within the rules

like the paper doesnt make a computer

[fervent needle]

is next woke highest prio after Ashem, Envy, Watha, Westy still Athoran?

[olive jewel]

but by following the rules you can make a state machine

[olive jewel]

Fawkes

[charred jetty]

this reminds me of markov chains

[timber cedar]

I could what is 6t then? No asaf no skylan

[charred jetty]

the part of the CS course I didn't have time to study before the final

[pulsar marlin]

Wawkes or build wippa and swap for wawkes

[grim hamlet]

The latest adjustments to the prio list is likely going to put fawkes above all of those wokes so I'd say he's next lol

[pulsar marlin]

Bud you don’t build a 6t fuck I don’t even have a 6t

I’m still t100 cuz my first 5 teams are good enough

[oak stirrup]

Thing is magic there's more than one way to win than dropping life to 0, and even that is not guarantee to win

[charred jetty]

so I'm guessing people made like stockfish-esque systems to optimize decks right

[olive jewel]

No, too complicated for computers rn I think

[charred jetty]

hmmm

[olive jewel]

like maybe something COULD be made

[charred jetty]

should I try

[olive jewel]

but it would require money and expertise that Magic is not big enough to pull

[charred jetty]

butit's proabbly more complicated than chess

and even chess uses some crazy decison tree pruning algorithms

[olive jewel]

its more complicated for computers

[grim hamlet]

eh if you fed all the rules and cards into an AI it would probably do alright lol

[timber cedar]

Bro I'm r51

[charred jetty]

when in doubt, increase the size of the transformer

[olive jewel]

imagine chess had 30000 pieces

[charred jetty]

add more neural layers

[timber cedar]

T100 is filled with skylans and most have alyca

[charred jetty]

6t is just testing zone for 7t

[grim hamlet]

and bajillions of interactions tht had never been seen before and once seen have no clear rules precendent lol

[olive jewel]

also true

[charred jetty]

I'd be surprised if no one has tried

if the game has a legitimate pro scene

[olive jewel]

computers would struggle because chess engines look at entire possibility spaces. Magic needs more heuristic thought

[charred jetty]

well we thought the same about natural language

[olive jewel]

sure. But it would require a different approach than chess

[charred jetty]

but it probably is true that given some tremendously complicated optimziation space, it's just really hard to meanigfully search and optimize

[olive jewel]

Magic as it in right now requires testing in the same way =newhero does

[gilded sapphire]

Because we're going to get this question a lot;
We require multiple weeks of testing before confidently placing a hero or pet in the priority guides. All information you hear about the hero or pet is speculation. Nothing is confirmed or set in stone. We recommend you to save your pulls if you haven't already started summoning for any hero or new pet. Please be patient for testing.

[charred jetty]

do they release new cards

[olive jewel]

yes

[charred jetty]

I imagine they do lol

powercreep 101

[olive jewel]

too often now

According to reports Magic is basically keeping Hasbro afloat

[charred jetty]

how much do hobbyists pay for a meta deck

[olive jewel]

Like if it suddenly vanished the company is fucked

so they are milking it HARD

[olive jewel]

depends on the format

[charred jetty]

let's say open

like anything flies

[olive jewel]

Some formats allow any card ever printed (minus ban list)

others are only the last couple years

[charred jetty]

o

like wild mode in hearthstone

[pulsar marlin]

where’s zohra Mae

[charred jetty]

now that I think of it hearthstone is literally just MTG on phone

before MTG made their own phone game

[olive jewel]

if you truly want to go "anything goes" There is a staple card that is around $10k USD minimum

[charred jetty]

wait, there is a card that is 10k?

????????

[olive jewel]

Modern is the most popular "competitive" format

[charred jetty]

ok I'm out

[pulsar marlin]

Isn’t it commander

[olive jewel]

decks range from like $500-$1300 maybe?

[charred jetty]

dang

that's so expensive

[olive jewel]

thats why I said competitive

I meant 60 card 1v1

[charred jetty]

there's probably some market for MTG cards huh

[pulsar marlin]

Ah ic

[olive jewel]

but wanted JD to get it

[olive jewel]

yeah

[hybrid breach]

big market yes

[olive jewel]

secondary market is what we are talking about

[pulsar marlin]

That’s decently expensive

[olive jewel]

the reason that card is 10k minimum is that it is LONG out of print

[charred jetty]

is it like pokemon cards where people pay for mint condition, rare, holo etc.

[olive jewel]

There are only so many on earth

[charred jetty]

welp time to go build only base card deck

[olive jewel]

This is for tournament viable competitive decks btw

[hybrid breach]

theres an online version which i think might be f2p viable?

[olive jewel]

[hybrid breach]

idk how that really compares to the normal ttrpg tho

[olive jewel]

Its VERY not generous

like yes technically nothing is literally irl money only

but like imagine if you could 10 pull in tavern once a week f2p

[hybrid breach]

its f2p viable in the same way dragons are?

[olive jewel]

yeah, one deck a year

[olive jewel]

also no pity no real wishlist

wildcards are like the only saving grace

but you get a pittance

[pulsar marlin]

Holy shit that’s bad

MD is like 1 deck every 2 months depending on the deck

[harsh acorn]

she's always pretty nice to me :D

[olive jewel]

idk if its actually that bad

feels like it

[autumn hornet]

if i have the excess guild coins, should i use them to buy Eugene shards?

[olive jewel]

you have hildwin and TE and DI?

[autumn hornet]

yeah

[olive jewel]

um idk what you should be doing rn

Buds

is Eugene a good idea to save for swaps

or just save for dim gear

[hybrid breach]

if hild still shows in shop just save

[olive jewel]

yeah save for now

[hybrid breach]

buy a dim gear or two but dont bother with eugene until 5* hild or enough shards for 5*

[drowsy terrace]

i mean woke swaps only matter if theyre like 4-5 wokes in

[olive jewel]

if you have stuff in mail about to expire use it on something

[olive jewel]

Why?

[drowsy terrace]

youve got the income by then i beleive

like, sure those huntingground things give a decent amount but the majority will still come from killing the bosses

well shit

it could be done earlier but thing is would you even have the copies yet

cause they both sell 15 shards

so imo hild is more valuable simply because he is a HB

[olive jewel]

yeah its tough to get

Yeah for sure get Hild first

[hybrid breach]

hild is more valuable bc hes actually useful

[olive jewel]

the question was after that tho

[drowsy terrace]

idk man

[hybrid breach]

big accs even use hild still, no one uses eugenes bum ass

[olive jewel]

Hild is meta in several modes

[drowsy terrace]

oh then i guess is he could be helpful, i swear i use him in some bullshit 7t in ts

or was it lct?

[hybrid breach]

burst bis?

[drowsy terrace]

i dont remember

zoha?

[olive jewel]

Eugene he meant I think

[drowsy terrace]

im talking about eugene

or engine

[hybrid breach]

let me go check the teams i sent temps a while back

basically in a throwaway buffer team

[olive jewel]

bud sure plays a lot for a quit guy

[hybrid breach]

these are like 5+ months old

[olive jewel]

Cant hear you I already ranDog away

[drowsy terrace]

[olive jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/2-gif-7749019966943875056

[oak stirrup]

Deep down inside he misses the good old days of trying to poosh leaderboard

@olive jewel R7 rank check

[olive jewel]

I havent hit

oh actually I hit to test something with wrong tree

[oak stirrup]

Hit hit, I will too because new meta

[olive jewel]

2.8%

[oak stirrup]

Almost there 3% is pretty easy just cut down your time by 20ish

[olive jewel]

Well I can hit like a full minute below what I have easily

[oak stirrup]

You know what they should do? Sell consumables that do stuff like cut down time of your current hit, used at start of hit

[olive jewel]

It was a test. Didnt set other teams

[grave hollow]

oh no 2 test teams failed

[pulsar marlin]

what are these whel teams

[hybrid breach]

13t lct

[torpid sand]

Same, she only threatened hammer against me, which is far nicer than hydrogen bomb

[open oyster]

I always give it my 100%

[harsh acorn]

hydrogen bomb

[oak stirrup]

I'm scared guys, what if I flop hard on last round of TS

[tepid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-magikarp-splash-gif-4418533

[olive jewel]

why isnt Levi better in camp

JD I summon you

[grave hollow]

try him with Odys

[olive jewel]

made it to the next multi stage

🧗

oh no next stage has 30b powercap

I guess camp is done for a few days

[oak stirrup]

Oh yeah right campaign update

Urgh still no 1800 mooler clears

[brazen terrace]

I wanna ask, now I have elite+ randle, elite Ivan and no Mira(I can take her after clear ch12 and seems stuck ch11) so what can I do for now? Upgrade randle to legend?

[oak stirrup]

No just wait for more copies

Even Randle will not huge boost from making L

[brazen terrace]

I can grit one hero later so what can I grit

[oak stirrup]

Keep playing. come back for grit advice when it has 2 or less days to go

Grit as late as possible for best optimal play

[brazen terrace]

So wait after 2 month?

[oak stirrup]

Does grit last that long? I thought it was 45 days or something, check how much time left

[brazen terrace]

55 days

[oak stirrup]

Yes, therefore keep playing so you actually get more hero copies before you make meaningful grit exchange

Hero exchange is not swapping your useless for more useful things, you swap 2 oranges with 1 apple, you get 2 apples, 1 orange, not 3 apple

[brazen terrace]

But it's the same thing as the swap scroll right? It will swap everything about the hero with the target

[oak stirrup]

Yes but are you seriously going to swap something with just two copies, so you can get something with 4 copies in return? Do you even have anything at 8-10 copies?

It doesn't add to what you swap into

[tepid totem]

Yes

[oak stirrup]

You can't swap something with 6 copies into 2 copy Randle and expect 8 copy

[brazen terrace]

I thought if I make one hero ascended I can directly swap into one elite hero ?😭

[oak stirrup]

You can, but are you seriously going to rush this soon? Just for a tutorial phase?

[brazen terrace]

I think no

[oak stirrup]

Randle is not going to be the only thing you want to grit for, or you probably won't need to grit him later anyway, a lot can happen in 55 days

[brazen terrace]

I can grit 4 times right? One each week after completing 100 points

[oak stirrup]

Every grit you unlock, last until the event ends

There is no need to hurry up and swap before end of the week, if you really want to ascend Randle then sure, but are you going to feed non fodders into fodder just to do that?

[brazen terrace]

Idk

Maybe I'll just save resources and wait

[oak stirrup]

That's generally the recommended approach, you never know what happens later

But only if you're serious about trying to compete

[brazen terrace]

So as what I said I have elite+ randle,elite Ivan and no mira, should I take Mira in the box after completing chapter 12 or just wait

[queen edge]

can zohra sit at si30 for a minute or is 40 required

[oak stirrup]

Keep the box for whoever is about to hit 8 copy, do people even use Mira for 1 copy utility like Nara back then?

[oak stirrup]

The best answer is to experience it for yourself and see if you're comfortable with the investment

[queen edge]

i fw that answer

[brazen terrace]

Okay then

[oak stirrup]

I can tell you this, this entire time my Eironn is still SI30 because I felt like I have no need to do it, I save 800 reds and I'm still on top for RGMs

Even though I just know his SI40 is very strong for tower

You get SI40 for Zohra if you think she's not doing enough, that's all, the debuff hitting 2 targets mean you get more damage, obviously

If your win rate with her team suck, you may consider it, nobody else can decide how you should think

[river shuttle]

[brazen terrace]

Where can I see guide about how much purple,gold or red thing to upgrade the SI

[oak stirrup]

You don't need a guide for that, it's like 200 + unlock purple to reach 10, 250 yellow for 20, and 300 reds for 30

[river shuttle]

200 purple / 240 gold / 300 red / 500red +230 white

[oak stirrup]

Oh 240

Don't go 40 yet that's too far for beginner to think

[river shuttle]

+20 for si 1

[brazen terrace]

Okay thank you guys

[river shuttle]

Ye i think so, not like it rly matters

[oak stirrup]

Yes it does! What if I need the SI20 investment in time and I don't have enough reeeeeeeeeee

I don't want to make mistake, after all

I want to be perfect so I can climb to the top and laugh at losers who can't do everything right

[river shuttle]

You can always check if you can fast lvlup it’s only possible if you have enough

[oak stirrup]

No! I wan U to tell me nowwwwww

“Do not put my perfect gameplay into peril!"

[queen edge]

ice cream jelly bean supah dream

can’t believe i have five wokes now i feel so powerful

[brazen terrace]

What's wokes

[queen edge]

awakened heroes

[brazen terrace]

Uhm, between randle and ivan who's the carry

So I can up their level more then other hero

[honest egret]

Randle is the carry

[brazen terrace]

Okay

[polar grail]

Next e60 ?

besides westy.

maybe Sait?

[oak stirrup]

There is an option called wait for Estrilda because resources don't expire

[polar grail]

I have all of that, just waiting on SG for 1 star lol

I have enough reds to get 2 e60's almost

its my stupid e30's that im lackin on :/

[oak stirrup]

Well what do you expect to acheive for investing? Instantly climb ladder? Be able to stay afloat at where you are? I mean there's also the option of just keep hoarding which worked for most people

[polar grail]

hmm ok

[brazen terrace]

Is this need 90 per day to spin it? Or else it will expire

[velvet jetty]

$15 a day gets you a spin, I don’t know more than that

[brazen terrace]

For one spin?

[vernal locust]

what should i do with diamond? pulling hero?

[oak stirrup]

You need to buy up to 90 points worth for your first spin of the day, you have 6/90 right now

[autumn gull]

sunk cost fallacy kicking in

[velvet jetty]

Yes

[river shuttle]

Why would you e60 him?

[oak stirrup]

E60 is a pvp thing

[polar grail]

was gonna see if it helps him with ts with envy comp

[river shuttle]

You have 3 easy choices here you just need to think

[polar grail]

liberta, dae, and aur?

[river shuttle]

Nuh

[oak stirrup]

Yes easy choices, Ivan Randle Alvida

[river shuttle]

2/3

[river shuttle]

3/3🥳🥳🥳🥳

[polar grail]

aurelia not need it? I know her si 40 is needed lol

[oak stirrup]

The only difference between "needed" and "not needed" is whether your think you are struggling in trying to rank or not

[primal summit]

Okay Randle and Ivan are really strong just as you said guys, they carried me through chapter 15 and beyond, and no I got Shemira, is she worth playing or just her special form?

[oak stirrup]

Regular Shemira is like a 6 year old hero by this point

[primal summit]

Old but gold?

[oak stirrup]

You want the real old and gold? Raine

[river shuttle]

Aure def wants it

[oak stirrup]

Regular Shemira will not even kill anything new modern heroes can, without an extra 100-200 levels

[river shuttle]

I didnt know this is a thing

[polar grail]

dae then ;-; lmfao

[primal summit]

Still Armed
Still Dangerous
Still Got it

[primal summit]

Craaazy

[river shuttle]

Who would you do instead? It got mentioned before

[oak stirrup]

Experience is useless after certain levels

[polar grail]

nothing im just trying to guess the 2 out of 3 lol

[oak stirrup]

They just keep going up and clogging your bag

[river shuttle]

Its 9999

[primal summit]

Ah you mean pink head lady

[brazen terrace]

Hello I'm from test server, anyone can lend me envydiel

[oak stirrup]

Wait what? I thought you play global

[river shuttle]

No one plays on test server

[oak stirrup]

@vivid wolf Benno dissing your turf

[brazen terrace]

That's the only thing available in my play store

[river shuttle]

@vivid wolf help this poor guy

[brazen terrace]

Been playing there until I know there's global server

[river shuttle]

Its not even a large amount

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-pan-tinkerbell-spank-tap-fairy-dust-gif-8961599520792268856

[vivid wolf]

FL full

[oak stirrup]

Condemned

Just go to 'add friends' and spam requests on everyone in list

[vivid wolf]

[primal summit]

I put her in there, righ?

[oak stirrup]

Yes then get one copy

No that's just how it's displayed

[primal summit]

HB?

[inner olive]

that's just how hbs show in that menu

[inner olive]

highborn draconic heroes

[primal summit]

Ah okay

I have just him

[torpid sand]

he hasnt replied yet

[oak stirrup]

[oak stirrup]

Wait you're emperor of void? Whattheroleplay

[inner olive]

67 ?

[primal summit]

Okay, so the new one isnt that great?

[oak stirrup]

What new one? You mean Cassius? He's one of the three oldest and they are obsolete

[torpid sand]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-reaction-meme-stan-twitter-funny-stressed-gif-7713976294327515532

[brazen terrace]

When will I unlock 4x in campaign

[inner olive]

chapter 20

[oak stirrup]

Beat ch20, it's that easy

[brazen terrace]

Ok

[inner olive]

oh yeah it's 20-60

[torpid sand]

I need to do a racism

[inner olive]

woah

[oak stirrup]

Something something "I‘m not afraid of god tier opponents, but I fear teammates that are pigs"

[torpid sand]

basically

[primal summit]

OMMGGG I GOT HERRR

[oak stirrup]

Ya that's why I didn't touch dota after a bit in beta, I'm sick of having losers placed into my otherwise top tier team

Damn feeders should be automatically banned and have entire Steam account purged

[vivid wolf]

ill go farm nc, dont mind me

[oak stirrup]

New California?

[vivid wolf]

neutral creep

[primal summit]

Who should I put there?

And here

[river shuttle]

#faq-resources @primal summit

[primal summit]

Thx I got him first try

[oak stirrup]

Congrats, you now only need 15 more! Isn't it exciting?

[minor musk]

o/

[inner olive]

it's 14 copies to ascend a celehypo to 1 star

so 13 more

[oak stirrup]

2x E+
4x L
6x L+
8x M
10x M+
14x A
16x A1

[torpid sand]

@oak stirrup another one

[oak stirrup]

Well you won so there's no issues is there

[torpid sand]

I did a racism

[oak stirrup]

[umbral wadi]

Aren’t you supposed to be a good example? Are we allowed to be racist here?

[oak stirrup]

@umbral wadi You wou come back to this game nowwwwwww

[umbral wadi]

They know…

[oak stirrup]

Oh no it's because on mobile it still show your old name

[umbral wadi]

[primal summit]

Worth the new beast to exchange?

[primal summit]

💀

[primal summit]

Okay Elthara is beyond strong, she carrys me so hard

[solar fractal]

If you don’t have reso18 no

[primal summit]

Whats reso 18?

[solar fractal]

=terms

[gilded sapphire]

#1469069769058680854

[umbral wadi]

How do you get the purple pets

[oak stirrup]

Pull with baits

You have a chance to get one or more of the three on your wishlist- godamnit wou

[umbral wadi]

[oak stirrup]

[umbral wadi]

my cover is blown I just want to mess around a bit

[pulsar marlin]

What happened to ur rank

[primal summit]

Thx thats usefull but you mean resonazing crystal? And the beast Version of it?

[pulsar marlin]

R u officially retired

[grave hollow]

Oh no its woutoro

[umbral wadi]

ow

don't worry I'm leaving as soon as I release the updated woke guide

[grave hollow]

U gonna be busted

[solar fractal]

Yes anyways you seem very very new so no don’t buy them just buy the bait

[oak stirrup]

The rest are for impulse spenders

[primal summit]

Okay so just the normal beats

Thanks, I hope I dont ask to much here but you all are very helpfull, and now maybe my account is saved

[wise spear]

is randle more important to upgrade than Eugene?

[queen edge]

eugene is ass so yeah

[queen edge]

don’t worry about wokes at this point just 4f heroes and knox

[queen edge]

it’s what the servers for bro

[autumn gull]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[autumn gull]

@exotic kernel

[mortal turret]

can someone lend me a high level wathalia plz

[minor musk]

no, but i can give a bad one.

39826117

[mortal turret]

that's good enough, thx sir

[tranquil coral]

[river shuttle]

Noooo it was way too funny ngl

[exotic kernel]

Thx bro

Do any one know when the new server

1191

[arctic stump]

What should I e 60 next aurelia, jinwoo or tatsumaki.

[tranquil coral]

=ratio

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1365328577561886740/RDT_20250425_0707255117226094771476277.jpg?ex=680ce8d3&is=680b9753&hm=b814c2f065b318f58746e04bb4fa6e42892297e393fa95795bd0046ce5451d3b&

[umbral wadi]

Long time no see

[ivory turret]

What do you select from monthly delux pass chests? I assume; time emblem, emblem choice chest and then elemental cores?

[inland vigil]

seems correct, though idk how spenders use the reds>baits selection if not res 18 yet

[buoyant olive]

For the mauler tower, is awakened Brutus at one copy or ascended Brutus more useful?

[autumn gull]

you shouldn’t invest in tatsumaki at all. out of sjw and aure, aurelia takes prio

[oak stirrup]

Tatsumaki is such a joke that Lilith literally refuse to give her proper name and hinted it at her 'actual name'

U want an actual good tornado user? Build Eironn awakened

[river shuttle]

Well her name already sais she’s terrible no?

[muted anchor]

Terrrrrrriible tornadoooo

[oak stirrup]

They, such as @tepid raft, couldn't take the hint

Hahaha pushing cele tower with L Zohra is so fun

Should probably try mooler with one copy next

Hmm, fatk or fero?

[solar fractal]

Be honest are you the random guy that came here yesterday

You smell like him

[umbral wadi]

… nooo

[minor rampart]

there was never a cover

[umbral wadi]

No clue what you’re talking about

[brazen terrace]

Why there's 2 slot for lvl

[inner olive]

miracle worker

[brazen terrace]

What's that

[river shuttle]

A totem

[minor musk]

[brazen terrace]

What's the first hero to take when stargazing is unlocked

[inner olive]

knox

[brazen terrace]

Is he useful even elite

[river shuttle]

No

[strange belfry]

How do you get so much mythic rune

[tepid totem]

money

[wispy ridge]

before i spend the shards how does engraving work again? do i need anything other than lv30 for the skill to activate

[shy crescent]

hero lvl 201

[brazen terrace]

If I can choose equipment for my randle should I get boots or sword

[muted anchor]

dont you have both already

[primal summit]

Will the player level be important at some point?

[barren fjord]

yo, for new acc that go for fawkes first w/o saitama, does the beast prio change?

[autumn gull]

no

i don’t think so

[barren fjord]

no earlyish panda focus?

just making sure i wanna make a super optimal account

[autumn gull]

id say panda over talis for sure

but still seal 18 + ice 12 rush

[barren fjord]

yeah that makes sense

[muted anchor]

@oak stirrup how are you dealing with nc i have lan and lavatune too big for their rounds 😭😭😭
Also si40 talimare and she also become too big

[autumn gull]

=returning @robust tangle

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[oak stirrup]

@muted anchor Can't get the 3CDA setup working which would have been peak but fortunately I did make 2ATK/CDA back then so it was still sub 9, I assume Lan could FATK instead?

Less issues because Kaelon was also silver

Need to attempt it on alt after I wake up

[brazen terrace]

For randle is sword or boots better. Mythic equipment

[idle thorn]

Does lvl up thing for collection not guarantee to get +1 collection but only made chances better? And do that things stuck?

[muted anchor]

My 2 mythic 1 leg attack level 3 isn't enough

Lan too big

[oak stirrup]

See if FATK works

Just gotta tweak it so Kaelon bigger prob

[brazen terrace]

@oak stirrup should I take mythic sword for randle instead of boots

[autumn gull]

=gear

[umbral wadi]

Someone answer this man’s question

[autumn gull]

doesn’t exist damn, but boots > weap

[umbral wadi]

been asking it for over an hour

[wispy ridge]

what should be my 2nd team? 1st is elth-ivan-atheus-lyca-nara/mira

[buoyant olive]

3 different draconic heroes for what reason?

Your second should focus on keeping rem alive ig. Jerome and palmer most definitely and maybe get a valuable tank in there. I’m not really a person to give advice wait for someone more experienced to reply.

[wispy ridge]

i got lan and elthara in 40~ pulls and the other one was a random 10 pull with scrolls lmao

[buoyant olive]

Yea but it’s pretty early for you pulling draconic heroes. And the smartest thing is to save up to 750 scrolls to get a meta one ascended by that time

[idle thorn]

What is a pity for draconic/woke heroes? Same as for stargaze?

[muted trench]

Randle Ivan in one team and elthara rem in other should work

[primal summit]

Worth spending diamonds there?

And will the player level be important at some point?

[muted trench]

Show box

[brazen terrace]

Thanks for noticing 🙂

[torpid sand]

how direct

[primal summit]

What box?

[torpid sand]

hero collection

[primal summit]

[muted trench]

Your characters

[muted trench]

[torpid sand]

I mean, if u insist

[primal summit]

And btw, HOLY MOLY auto battle is such a blessing finally I unlocked it!!!!

[muted trench]

Its better to continue using 2700 diamonds on normal pulls since you are missing a lot of meta 4f heroes, like Randle/Ivan most importantly

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[torpid sand]

thoughts bud?

is it joever

[muted trench]

Damn the belinda

[torpid sand]

should've seen my crowning achievement

[brazen terrace]

How

[muted trench]

here is the answer

[primal summit]

After chapter 20-60, sadly

[muted trench]

First time seeing AThane Sı50 e80

[torpid sand]

I'm 1 furn away from 36f

[primal summit]

Okay wtf, why cant you react here in this channel

[muted trench]

So when swap

[torpid sand]

still irks me to this day

[primal summit]

I got them today now a few times just new for me. And even on elite are super strong

[brazen terrace]

So u can reach chapter 21 with hero lvl 140?

[muted anchor]

Only for cs and mods

[strange belfry]

What is the knox trick for campaign they mention chat?

[primal summit]

You need her, shes such a keeper fr. She carryed me from chapter 15 to now chspter 23, and it goes on!! And ofc Randle and Ivan

[torpid sand]

external emojis are pretty restricted as well aren't they?

[strange belfry]

Teach me sensei

[flint granite]

Its not a cheese u just need knox

[torpid sand]

https://tenor.com/view/idfk-gif-3761179052566277881

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-ai-kitten-ai-kitten-larry-larry-ai-gif-5850789617517185518

[torpid sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/625226499758358578/1477820912341483580/ali5a0.gif

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1478536461874626701/image0.gif

[torpid sand]

[strange belfry]

They said knox in chap40+

[hybrid breach]

Whose acc is this lol

[brazen terrace]

Sadly I don't have that. Maybe I'll just stuck for a while 🤣

[hybrid breach]

Just pre whane nem

[torpid sand]

yeah basically lmao

and like 50 lower RC

[hybrid breach]

The first think I searched for was your whane

[torpid sand]

[torpid sand]

I'm so glad I have that rep

the most fun I had during my whole time playing this game

[muted trench]

Why the rem exchange screenshot is there

[strange belfry]

My 30e60 knox just got kick in the ass all the time by 1trillion dmg enemies from campaign

[primal summit]

Where are you? I got her on summoning unlocking on chapter 15 or smth, and from the new hero event I got 50 pulls and was lucky to get her

[torpid sand]

it's a guide

I'm purple for a reason

a lot of the white names here need picture books to read

[muted trench]

me

[torpid sand]

here's my best guide

[primal summit]

You getting the new beast?

[muted trench]

its actually good

[brazen terrace]

I didn't get that as I started and the event already finished

[torpid sand]

bud I haven't even played since like, 2 years ago or smth

[strange belfry]

That mirael piktrure

[torpid sand]

genuinely couldn't find the default image so I just went with that one

[primal summit]

And still active here in the server?

[muted trench]

good person

[torpid sand]

blame alpa for that

[hybrid breach]

[primal summit]

You on the newst server/beginner player?

[hollow parcel]

Hello @primal summit,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[hybrid breach]

why are you telling ppl to get nodes on knox and major nodes at that

[torpid sand]

bud he's a white name

it's the lost leading the lost

[open oyster]

The trick

[brazen terrace]

I'm in test server, not very new server

[primal summit]

What is that? Did someone activated it?

[hybrid breach]

the trick for what nodes on knox aint doing shit

[primal summit]

Whats test server?

[open oyster]

The trick is to trick the nubs into investing into knox nodes early for less competition

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[brazen terrace]

That server got update earlier

[torpid sand]

afk guide review

[hybrid breach]

yes what would ik, im just a stinky purple

[torpid sand]

we don't go off of just our own testing

we share info

[open oyster]

5036100 everything and win (well tested strategy)

[torpid sand]

that's what I told Roberto

[open oyster]

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/roberto-perez-pearez-roberto-pearez-pear-gif-18111431

[open oyster]

Omg companions is so cooked look at their message history video bud is losing to tutorial

[torpid sand]

wait what? can u link it?

hahahahah

[open oyster]

wts is ascended artifact

[torpid sand]

[[!the one ring]]

[open oyster]

🫵

[hybrid breach]

colls 2.0

[primal summit]

Huh okay, why playing there? For research?

[torpid sand]

-# 1 Blocked message • Show message

[primal summit]

@brazen terrace I got up to chapter 23-26 with her

[pallid knoll]

Certain regions in Asia get that server as default.

[torpid sand]

did bud click it

[primal summit]

Ye ofc but it sounds like hes playing there with main/only 1 account

[primal summit]

Okay crazy

[primal summit]

Can we play with them?

[hybrid breach]

mods ban this guy for trolling

[torpid sand]

[torpid sand]

dubs I'm watching abysmal dogshit rn

[brazen terrace]

This is the only server available in my play store

[hybrid breach]

nice bud

[torpid sand]

the animations are fried, the story is plain and already been used

but it's new op mc slop, so it's worth watching

[pallid knoll]

Nope they're in their own closed environment. Test server gets updated one week early.

It looks like this:

[wise spear]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[hybrid breach]

oh whats the title bud, i saw a new op slop on my feed yesterday and thought about checking it out

[pallid knoll]

That thing should be way shorter lol. Or put into a link.

[torpid sand]

Scooped Up by an S-Rank Adventurer!

you'll never guess what happens after the MC (a support) joins the hero party

https://tenor.com/view/silly-reaction-meme-stan-twitter-funny-stressed-gif-7713976294327515532

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-gold-ship-uma-musume-uma-musume-gif-12848419692270086508

[torpid sand]

as I said earlier

[pallid knoll]

MC becomes horse for S rank hero. Or s*x slave.

[torpid sand]

no he gets kicked from the party for not doing enough

[pallid knoll]

[hybrid breach]

is that the one where hes like the mega insane support and goes to some random party after being kicked out

[pallid knoll]

HB swap

[torpid sand]

I'll swap my sister's shampoo with bleach

[torpid sand]

yeah lmao

[umbral wadi]

What is bro doing here

[torpid sand]

and his master in the mountains is a legendary hero of old or some shit

[torpid sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/625226499758358578/1477820912341483580/ali5a0.gif

[hybrid breach]

oh i dont think i got that far before dropping it

[torpid sand]

bro that's like, first 10m of ep 1

[umbral wadi]

You’re here to fuck? With me??

[pallid knoll]

Try Star embracing Swordmaster

[hybrid breach]

maybe i just wasnt paying attention

[torpid sand]

https://tenor.com/view/idfk-gif-3761179052566277881

[torpid sand]

it's way too easy to tune out with something like this playing

I need solo levelling season 3

https://klipy.com/gifs/itch-11

[umbral wadi]

Me reading the 10th discussion about the guide I had essentially finish 2 days ago

[pallid knoll]

Or..

Revenge of the Iron Blooded Sword Hound

[hybrid breach]

frieren s3 even tho s2 isnt over yet

[torpid sand]

[torpid sand]

my friend finds the most obscure random gifs that are amazing for niche situations

this one is amazing for every situation

[pallid knoll]

Thats the arc where SJW becomes super OP

Between end of Jeju, and before he dies

[torpid sand]

https://tenor.com/view/not-a-sigma-sorry-you-are-not-a-sigma-sorry-you're-not-a-sigma-you-aren't-a-sigma-you-are-not-sigma-gif-337838532227751572

[hybrid breach]

bud just dropping spoilers

[pallid knoll]

Everyone should know that by now

[umbral wadi]

I didn’t know lmao

[hybrid breach]

not everyone reads the manhwa

[pallid knoll]

[wispy ridge]

and repeat step 10 after ch31? truly an afk game...

[umbral wadi]

I can’t even read

[hybrid breach]

same bud

[muted anchor]

Manhua is the main thing
Anime is the side

[torpid sand]

omg just found a screenshot of my webcam that looks hilarious

[hybrid breach]

ive read it like 3 times but there are plenty of anime onlys

[torpid sand]

I look like an NPC

[pallid knoll]

This might come out before that

[torpid sand]

that's not the jinwoo I know

his jawline isn't refined enough

he needs to look like he's mewing all the time

[umbral wadi]

Solo levelling hype is so silly it has probably the worst power scaling out of any anime

[torpid sand]

yes but it's aura farming

and has banger music

[muted anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/mogger-sung-jin-woo-gif-9784079221226254113

[torpid sand]

music carries

[muted anchor]

Tbate solo leveling and few others

[umbral wadi]

You could buy a smurf and become their SJW

There’s no competition at all

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474037037634945064/image0.gif

[pallid knoll]

The music when sjw was fighting beru was fire

[muted anchor]

I might've ive read alot of manhua slops if you have a pic id defo remember if I did

[umbral wadi]

They saw my M40 Belinda and wanted to put me against stronger opponents

[torpid sand]

also got Dark Aria ofc

[muted anchor]

Yes like last 2 patch ish

[pallid knoll]

Is that Zuo Yifan?

Demon magic emperor

[muted anchor]

The lightning and fire dual elementist guys?

[pallid knoll]

Demon slayer has amazing music of course

[torpid sand]

also this guy

is genuinely the goat

[pallid knoll]

This guy

[torpid sand]

I swear every like, 5th song that comes up on shuffle when I'm driving is one of his

[flint granite]

read tbate novel

you wont regret it

[pallid knoll]

Ah there. Same

[muted anchor]

Hmm i dont think i did

[umbral wadi]

Obviously

[muted anchor]

Oh h3 seems familiar

[muted anchor]

No need i can chill till manhua done only novel id read is tensura

[pallid knoll]

You read the part where he has Regis?

[muted anchor]

Yes

[flint granite]

i only have 20 chaps left and i dropped it lol

[flint granite]

its going to take like 6 years to finish it

[muted anchor]

Its fine im still young

[pallid knoll]

I haven't caught up in 2026. I wait a few months for the updates. Time to get back into it lol

More like 10 years

I think in the manhwa, the war hasnt started yet even

[flint granite]

i think sylvie just got her human form...

[pallid knoll]

Wow that is sooo far

[flint granite]

also for some reason reading from novels makes it seem way better than the novel

[pallid knoll]

Love the fanart though. Amazing stuff

[pallid knoll]

Is Seris (still) alive?

[river shuttle]

Nuhh

[pallid knoll]

Frieren looks so similar to Marci though

I mean, their character models look similar

Cute female elf in robes wielding a staff

Would be nice to have this happen

[river shuttle]

I think this would be kinda boring

[pallid knoll]

Cute OP female mage elves... Boring?

[river shuttle]

I personally dont like frieren at all tbh

Didnt watch delicios dungeons

[pallid knoll]

It is.. different than most anime.. not really action if you think about it..

More like a slow burn story being told by the campfire

[river shuttle]

I gotta rewatch classroom of the elite first ngl bcs of next season soon

[pallid knoll]

On a similar note.. to all anime fans here, especially FMA fans..

https://youtu.be/N22Q9ufBcIU?si=ErnSrx9umw0oPCi8

[primal summit]

Oh you talking about manhwa?? Im in!

You know Dungeon Odyssee?

[flint granite]

pretty sure yes

[primal summit]

Mhm okay lol. What about playing the normal through apk?

[flint granite]

they go on making a new race of the higher beings (asuras)

[pallid knoll]

Not yet.. but in my to-read list for 2026! I like the initial description of it

[flint granite]

for arthur lol

they would be called archons

[primal summit]

Bro its insane nice, and the art style is also really cool

[pallid knoll]

Oh.. didn't expect that.. nice.. I'll catch up on that soon

[primal summit]

But sadly ther is not much of it

[flint granite]

the fights are amazing... where did you stop

[pallid knoll]

Seris rebelled

[tepid totem]

next hero is gb?

[flint granite]

she caught one of the enemies right

trapped

[umbral wadi]

I’m so happy Hat’s reading comprehension hasn’t improved one bit

[pallid knoll]

What i really want to see in anime form... Or even in manhwa form...

Is Arthur vs Cadell!!! In the colliseum

[pallid knoll]

Yep. I stopped reading shortly after. She was waiting for Agrona's attacks, but has a trap for Agrona's hunters

[tepid totem]

anime sucks get back to afk

[pallid knoll]

(thats just an ad btw )

[solar fractal]

Ai

[tepid totem]

i hope next hero is a gb

[pallid knoll]

So much manhwa and novels to read... So little time

[solar fractal]

Look at her shoes and hand

But damn I wish it was real

She’s so hot

[pallid knoll]

Yeah i think thats just AI lol
But its well made ngl

[primal summit]

Kinda but Im free now and read 12h a day sometimes when I really like the manhwa

You reading Nano Machine, also a banger

[pallid knoll]

Last one i read was Revenge of the Iron Blooded Sword Hound

[flint granite]

i read its novel too xd

[pallid knoll]

Same! When the manhwa stopped, i immediately went to finish it in the novel

Its really good.. positive vibes as well..

[flint granite]

they couldve made it longer after revealing that there are 80 ish more demons

[pallid knoll]

True.. could be a new novel perhaps.. this one ended well at least.

[primal summit]

Ye I want to know the story too but, it was a big step from just anime (video) to reading manhwa/manga but at manhwas there a still pictures , but without idk. For example 2 weeks ago I read the tensura manga bcs I wanted to know how it goes after I rewatched the 3 seasons

[primal summit]

I havent read the thing yet, but heard from it, the last thing I read is also a month ago, it was Omniscients Reader Viewpoint, I need to continue it But I read a lot

[pallid knoll]

Thats a good one as well. Did you finish it?

[pallid knoll]

ORV has an anime now as well. Coming this year. Should be amazing.. potential to be same level or better than SL..

[crystal yarrow]

Orv manhwa and ln both are crazy good