classic-questions

[charred jetty]

bruh

[olive jewel]

3* Vault

[charred jetty]

or not

just rng more

dude this is actually such an OP comp

[primal burrow]

what?

[olive jewel]

a vault with three stars. IE, two level up skills slotted into it

[charred jetty]

based on your roster, the most stable 3 comps is probably ashem envy, freeze core and uh try Alna skylan

let me clarify

[solar fractal]

@drifting hemlock Ty

[turbid raven]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[primal burrow]

ty

[charred jetty]

• Ashem gorok envy westy hildwin (envy SP) + /
• Knox gorren aurelia shuna tamrus +
• alna skylan ivan randle daemia/misha/lan/velu idk which one is better tbh, just pick one that works +

@muted trench

[muted trench]

Great i will give them a try

But my hildwin is kinda cooked no? L+

[charred jetty]

oh shoot my bad didn't see that

um

[muted trench]

Also tamrus not SI30 9F

[charred jetty]

just put jerome instead of hildwin

[charred jetty]

oh

do you have to have 1 copy of zohra or kalthin by any chance?

or melon?

/ /

ok my alna dae is just dying

[muted trench]

No i dont, i have melon tho at 1 copy

[charred jetty]

oh what the heck pippa is actually more stable than askri

that's so weird

maybe my deficit is just too slow

nope I take that back

lowkey maybe fawkes is better

Ok Fawkes is just broken for not super high deficit

Literally what is this hero

[muted trench]

damn

[charred jetty]

Wow my deficit is crazy low though

ok idk what is going on with fawkes anymore, he's just broken

why is fawkes so inconsistent though

I hate that I have no idea why fawkes works

that exact comp shifts from deletes everyone in 10s to not working at all

[hollow axle]

What is Saitama min investement for TS??

[solar fractal]

E30

[open oyster]

Ok

[verbal anvil]

Should i still exchange 10mil gold fir 100 bait if i have reso 18?

[charred jetty]

yes

[solar fractal]

Hi

[open oyster]

HI

[charred jetty]

I mean there's literally nothing else to do with gold

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/small-cat-cat-dance-sleepy-kitten-pathetic-cat-kitten-hold-gif-2871114101866651462

[open oyster]

[open oyster]

We need normal pet

[verbal anvil]

In my case lvling is eating my gold so bait>hero lvl?

[open oyster]

You should be able to afford both every month

[olive jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7348875560014547921

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hug-gif-26546176639434304

[tepid totem]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7348875560014547921

[autumn gull]

ngl not really

[pulsar marlin]

Panda?

[charred jetty]

ye

[open oyster]

Then hero level > bait imo

[charred jetty]

fawkes is such a weird hero

[pulsar marlin]

He’s like absurdly goated with panda

[charred jetty]

the variance between RNG of the same exact comp is actually absurd

[pulsar marlin]

I had clips of him beating ashem teams with panda 12 and 4 fodders

[pulsar marlin]

He’s unironically goated as shit

[charred jetty]

Might be better than Alna dae askri? I have no idea tbh

[open oyster]

Wowow rank 104 in R3 what the kraken

[charred jetty]

myu is just goated

[open oyster]

You see proxy first f2p to get top 200 CR

[pulsar marlin]

My kt very low

I could probably push another 300 floors like this

[charred jetty]

I saw yeah

crazy work

[open oyster]

Be 2nd now

[charred jetty]

I can't

my account isn't f2p anymore lol

[open oyster]

wts

[charred jetty]

I thought utak would be the first

[olive jewel]

me

[charred jetty]

my pb was 1% f2p

[open oyster]

Same I thought it would be utak but brute R1 is op

[charred jetty]

but 1% is quite a ways off from top 200

[autumn gull]

fake advertising in the name

[open oyster]

You f2p?

[charred jetty]

well I'm technically f2p in that no money has been spent my account

[olive jewel]

yeah bud

[open oyster]

[charred jetty]

which is not the same as inherit, because those accounts money have been spent

my account no one has ever spent

[open oyster]

So how is it not f2p

[pulsar marlin]

how hard did ur wath and seal sell

[open oyster]

You can be 2nd then

[charred jetty]

I literally have perk 4

that's... not exactly f2p

[open oyster]

Wowow

[olive jewel]

I only have.....a lot to go

[olive jewel]

how did you get without money though

[charred jetty]

dude this sai wei specter comp is so goated what the heck

[open oyster]

What do you usually get in CR nowadays?

[olive jewel]

I am confused

[olive jewel]

10%

[charred jetty]

the burst of wei lasted like 30s

still won

[pulsar marlin]

Is it really that consistent

[charred jetty]

without sai if you don't win within 15s it's GG

[open oyster]

Ah you 10% stuck like me

[pulsar marlin]

I thought Wei lowkey falls off after like 700 deficit

[olive jewel]

my PB is 6.4%. I usually get around 9%

[charred jetty]

I tried wei specter burst on myu's old account

[open oyster]

Ooh nice my pb was like 8% 6 months ago. This week I was 16%

[charred jetty]

I think she was like 910 deficit? something like that

still insta burst

why my fawkes always run into astar

oh I think figured it out

fawkes coffins all have to be stacked, and he needs to take panda 18

that's the win condition

well not only win condition, but that's what gives him crazy burst potential

so lowkey fawkes + zolrath?

when does fawkes plant coffins again?

[pulsar marlin]

Triggers it

[open oyster]

I dont have afawkes yet to tell you that

[pulsar marlin]

Every time he plants a coffin he triggers previous

[charred jetty]

what's causes him to determine where to plant?

[olive jewel]

pls explain

[pulsar marlin]

Iirc it’s random

Like it has to be near a hero that’s it

And the more people clump the more consistent it is

[charred jetty]

lilith sponsors mithril to certain people like creators, staff, etc.

[olive jewel]

oh

[charred jetty]

so the mithril is f2p, but you can't say the account is still f2p

even though no money was spent

it's like if you won an art contest etc.

doesn't really matter though, I don't really care either way lol

I'm not competiting against people like quagga/jfrog/utak anymore

[vivid wolf]

[charred jetty]

[craggy oak]

You didn't include proxy in that f2p list

[vivid wolf]

[charred jetty]

Oh proxy too yeah

[tepid totem]

[charred jetty]

I think I cracked it…

Weirdly enough Fawkes and thoran cheese is actually the same comp

Nvm didn’t crack it yet

Too many groupers, need more buffers

Hmm

Hmm so comps that naturally group but are extraordinarily tanky, need 1 grouper and 3 buffer

Comps that don’t naturally group need 2 groups

Comps that don’t naturally group and are super tanky don’t use Fawkes

Eg Ginneas trishea

Eg this is naturally not grouped

If you don’t rope trishea in, Fawkes doesn’t kill

Or he just dos anyways

Dude Fawkes is so broken

Who made this hero

I’m not saying I’m pushing amazing deficit lol, I’m just trying to figure out what exactly is Fawkes win condition

What comp are you using?

Hmm Alvida Fawkes

[grave hollow]

H

Why do i got Odys M+ already

[charred jetty]

Are you using it as an autobattle comp, or manual solve comp?

Yeah

Like how stable is the comp

I’m trying to figure out a set of maximally stable KT comps

Hopefully works decently at like 6-800 deficit

Side note, what the heck is this

6s disappear

Ok let me find a tasi stage

I know Wei specter burst with this setup beats tasi

Problem is just ashem envy becomes unstable

Wei is actually more burst than elthara

Idk what it is about Wei and zohra with specter

Still haven’t figured out why they interact like that

This comp, Wei bursts down in a few tries, elthara cannot

Yeah

I think this is one of the biggest parts of Wei damage

Nvm ignore that

Idk I can’t figure it out by reading the skill

Why does grouping + dps deal so much damage with specter?

I feel like the skill is multi dipping some buff

Because it’s not only eironn, it’s also zohra

But I haven’t found anyone else that synergizes with specter in the same way

Oh I have actually, Sion is the other one

Also suck enemies with fast AoE

But the effect doesn’t need misha

Or melon or Aurelia

[olive jewel]

so far so good with these teams

[charred jetty]

Those obviously buff too, but that’s not the cause of the phenomenon

I think you are right though, something to do with level 9

I started noticing it with lv9+ specter

?

Question?

Well lv9 steals stats

So it helps all heroes deal more damage

And also it buffs

Just like atk buff, enemy def decrease etc

Well does more damage makes sense

But what’s confusing to me is it disproportionately buffs heroes which have a group AoE fast DoT skill

Like way disproportionally

I tried on myu’s previous account, that burst can 1 shot heroes at lv910 deficit

No but if you don’t use specter it’s not even close

It’s something very specific about specter and that kind of skills

Sion has the same thing

Usually panda 18 is the best buff to Sion

But for whatever reason when the specter synergy triggers, his damage just like x50

Insta burst down enemies that are way stronger

[grave hollow]

Okai what should i build now

Do i build odys and hildwin @drifting hemlock

Ye

sound okish to me tbh

[charred jetty]

Maybe I’m just overthinking it

And it’s not that deep

Yeah I understand that it’s a good buff

But what’s confusing is why it disproportionately buffs heroes with that specific attack pattern

Compared to like idk, abel or elthara or something

Ok those ignore def so steal stat is not as beneficial

But someone like Awthalia doesn’t get nearly as big of a damage spike

Sorry let me clarify, the phenomenon I noticed was for some reason, heroes that group and do rapid AoE get a much bigger damage boost out of specter 9 than other heroes do

No like, specifically they receive a much bigger damage increase from specter 9’s effect

It’s like 10x bigger

Causing them to instantly delete the enemies

This might be it

Just AoE doesn’t get the same buff

Wait actually

Is it specter 6?

When they get grouped, they involuntarily move very rapidly

Like eg if you see the zohra ult

I wonder if it’s like do you remember the Torne ult?

It’s something like that, but the forced grouping counts as they are traveling very far

So with grouping heroes, they essentially get their DEF completely stripped

Causing a massive deficit scaling effective damage increase

Based on effective damage formula

And what I’ve also seen is that if they have shields, this sudden burst doesn’t not apply

Which is probably because it counts as they resisted the movement?

Or alternatively they resist the lockdown

Yea that must be it

Move during lockdown also triggers a little bit of beast energy gain

With zohra ult, soecter energy is constantly full

Like it instantly regains full bar as soon as it ults

Whereas with someone like Abel for instance, it’s much slower

Yeah

But it’s the same activation requirement for the def decrease

So it counts as enemies are constantly moving very fast and far

Hence very strong def strip

Resulting in massive increase in effective damage that scales with deficit

Yeah

[harsh acorn]

[charred jetty]

Very interesting, finally figured it out

It’s been bugging me for over a year now

Yep that’s exactly why

I tried with Awthalia becuase she does clean, single stances of damage

When zohra is ulting with specter lockdown, Awthalia does between 2-10x more damage

Even though the buff from specter is going to zohra

These two battles lasted roughly the same amount of time

I didn’t use zohra SP, so she shouldn’t have buffed Awthalia’s damage that much

Same thing works with skriath

Back to Fawkes

Tasi? No problem

[sharp star]

ABelinda was my first awakened I think

[tepid totem]

same

[sharp star]

I managed to get so many lb copies for no reason

[tepid totem]

is he a masochist

[charred jetty]

Interesting

Hope he’s strong

[autumn river]

Ew wdh

[pulsar marlin]

I only have 300 cards so uh pls be worse then lys

[oak stirrup]

Why do I get the feeling he's that guy who got trapped by Vyloris back then?

[pulsar marlin]

Ngl he prob is

[oak stirrup]

Remember that video where she pretend to be divine looking LB and then some hero came and... Yeah

[pulsar marlin]

Hopefully he’s ok, not too strong not too weak

[oak stirrup]

Probably an awakened because he looks like a degenerate Lorsan

I dunno man, you always give off that 'seems legit' aura

[pallid knoll]

Envy vibes

100% meta

All heroes who look like masochists are OP

[raven kestrel]

ayo

[sharp star]

W

[oak stirrup]

But you're all masochists trying to chase good TS rank, why you all not OP

[queen edge]

anyone got a low budget feral pulse kill

[wind sleet]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[prisma sequoia]

Can Heros choice fail to summon the hero?

[queen edge]

yeah same pull rates as normal just converts ur E pull to the choice hero

[prisma sequoia]

Oof so you get 1 shot at the hero for 3k.... that doesn't sound great

[wind sleet]

Anyone have tips for starting ghoulish gallery

[prisma sequoia]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[wind sleet]

This the team I'm using and I want to get an artefact for daimon

[prisma sequoia]

Click on that unknown up there for the collections guide

[pulsar marlin]

Is this another seal hero

[prisma sequoia]

Also once you unlock the auto complete use it. You get all the choices none of the rng

[pulsar marlin]

That’s like a 6 second immunity during ult

Actually it’s 5

[queen edge]

bruh please no

[pulsar marlin]

If he has cheat deaths Whoran might actually be homeless

[prisma sequoia]

Anyone else having issues with the towers counting 40 fights as 60?

[oak stirrup]

Are you 100% sure you started off as 60/60

[prisma sequoia]

I should have it's 60 a day right?

[oak stirrup]

Because if you just unlocked the tower you get 20 every single time the corresponding faction tower comes, stores a maximum of 60

[prisma sequoia]

Oh then probably not

[oak stirrup]

No you get 20 whenever you get wilder tower, so next 20 comes 3 days later

It just caps at 60 in case you didn't do for too long

It means you're playing efficiently

[prisma sequoia]

Lol oofta oh well darn 20 a go is so few. Gonna take a long time to push the faction towers

[oak stirrup]

Not really, because you'll hit a wall by some point that you can't even use your 20 later

[prisma sequoia]

Ah like on campaign. God the 29s are painful

[oak stirrup]

At some point faction tower will be two teams, and then by 661, three teams

And yeah, three teams with a SINGLE faction is actually problematic

[prisma sequoia]

That's a lot of resonance space

[sharp star]

Yea I'm still lacking on wilder wokes

There's really two that I need at this point

[oak stirrup]

Wilder woke priority: > > >

[sharp star]

So Wippa then Weirron

[oak stirrup]

Keep in mind besides faction tower, Eironn will only have a niche for some CR rounds

[sharp star]

Yeaaa

That's why I haven't gotten more than 1 copy yet

[prisma sequoia]

Would it be worth throwing them on the crystal and starting the celestial tower?

[sharp star]

Liberta, Aurelia, and Orothos are good

[winter halo]

I mean there is no reason to not

Unless you're short on crystal slots

[oak stirrup]

If you got slots why not? Push a few early for easy resource

[sharp star]

WuKong is just extra space until you get a better cel

[prisma sequoia]

Lol always short too low level 😆

[winter halo]

I mean I don't think early celestial tower gives anything super valuable anyways

So no big loss

[sharp star]

Yea it's that many more floors

[oak stirrup]

Free red! Actually not first 20

[sharp star]

I'm guessing they're never gonna add a dimensional tower

[prisma sequoia]

Hmm it'll take all my faction slots for tomorrow.... oh I can unslot my wilders

[sharp star]

An old guild leader and I were talking about it cause of the clouds in the lower right

[pulsar marlin]

Ye no shot

[oak stirrup]

You can, but you either wait 24 hours or you pay diamond

[winter halo]

We have been waiting ever since Ainz came out

[sharp star]

Yea valid

Ainz was my first garrison and dim besides Albedo that I built

[oak stirrup]

I mean they technically 'could' and just limit it to the not collab ones, but that's kind of shit, imagine people needing to 5036E100 Arthur of all things

[sharp star]

Yuck no ty

[winter halo]

It's time for the Nakoruru resurgence

[sharp star]

It would be cool to see something that allows the really bad dims to be at least somewhat more justified

[oak stirrup]

Make it so some key stages that rewards you with DI, requires that you own Ukyo

[sharp star]

Oh that's just evil

[winter halo]

Oh wait Nako is a collab

[muted anchor]

[winter halo]

OK time for the Baba Yaga meta

[muted anchor]

Wait did they change the mythic color

I dont remember it being like this

[oak stirrup]

I still have her on standby

[winter halo]

I think it lost the shiny for some reason

[sharp star]

Yea if it was non collab, it'd just be Baba Yaga, Merlin, Leonardo, Joan, Mulan, Arthur, and Robin Hood

[prisma sequoia]

🤣 that's gonna be a no on pushing the celestial tower the all insta die

[sharp star]

Leonardo is really good for campaign

[winter halo]

Wait cs lost shiny too

The heck is this

[muted anchor]

Weird we at 19 boosts atm it should still exist

[craggy oak]

marci shaltear laois garrison is insane

[oak stirrup]

AFK server can't afford the shiny fuel cost anymore

[muted anchor]

Used to be

[craggy oak]

we love new fawkes coll

[oak stirrup]

Oh hi you seem to be way lighter now

[sharp star]

He's working pretty well on my buddy's account

But it is sub chapter 50 tbf

[winter halo]

Why use Leonardo when you can use op hero PoP

[oak stirrup]

They should make CS brown instead

[winter halo]

[oak stirrup]

No because PoP is also collab

[craggy oak]

[winter halo]

[winter halo]

They should turn you brown

Only you

[sharp star]

I low-key did garrison all the terrible dims once to get the profiles

[oak stirrup]

I did all of them so I could stay in FR

[sharp star]

That was a perfect "we are not the same" moment lol

[oak stirrup]

Oh and I just realised, people who came after Shalltear, they actually potentially won't ever get into FR

[winter halo]

Aren't you old enough to have them all legit

[sharp star]

I liked the return, but I had long done the 6 garrisons for both Albedo and Ainz, so there was no point in getting them

[oak stirrup]

Naw that's for alt, who miss like 8 of them

I did it anyway because less clicks

[winter halo]

[sharp star]

I made my account right at the time Ezio was announced

It's been so long it feels like since they added Jerome

[oak stirrup]

I mean dim tower technically is doable without violating any contracts since it's just mode except you use the ones you already legit unlocked from attending the collab events, but they choose not to because giving even more free resources is bad for business

[sharp star]

Right

[oak stirrup]

They should like, add it but make exception so that you cannot use garrisoned heroes, everything must be owned

[winter halo]

[oak stirrup]

[sharp star]

I'd be fine with that, since I'm only missing Rem from recent exchanges

[oak stirrup]

It won't be fine with dim tower becomes 2 teams

[pallid knoll]

Dim garrison incoming

[oak stirrup]

Wow finally after like a year

[sharp star]

Dims are my favorite

[oak stirrup]

Still would have been cooler not to add

[oak stirrup]

Have fun triple garrisoning though, or they just disappear from NC

Making them useless except for CR

[pallid knoll]

[oak stirrup]

Well I guess they got their wish and can now freely jizz their pants

[solar fractal]

I saw

[pallid knoll]

[sharp star]

It's crazy timing ngl

You were literally just talking about that

[pallid knoll]

New coll too lol

[oak stirrup]

Now it makes you wonder if their delay was just management being an ass and deliberately not do it on order to get backlash

[pulsar marlin]

HOLY SHIT

[oak stirrup]

Or they actually did make it up with the collab suppliers

[pulsar marlin]

New coll means more juice

[oak stirrup]

No? It's still north zone

Okay I'm blind but it's not new zone so just one off instead of free 100

[pulsar marlin]

Treasure vanguard back

Isn’t that like 10 free te for everyone

[river shuttle]

lilith might be onto something here

[oak stirrup]

Probably CN barked loud enough

[river shuttle]

not nececarily

[oak stirrup]

Oh it's only 19 now? Let me take mine off

[inner olive]

they actually updated garrison

wow

[pallid knoll]

Yep. Garrison, New coll, AE, new hypo

[oak stirrup]

So what went wrong then? Did they originally decide not to and then got massive backlash

[river shuttle]

we just miss sjw and opm collab then, thats fine theyre both still kinda new

[oak stirrup]

Management have no balls

[pulsar marlin]

I think cn whels got pissed

[oak stirrup]

Why would they get pissed though, they just buy the heroes

[muted anchor]

[pallid knoll]

Could be budget issues. Big bosses could have green lighted additional budget after cn ny

[river shuttle]

sounds like a good patch

[oak stirrup]

Big boss about to flee country

[inner olive]

nc finally somewhat playable for new players ?

[hollow parcel]

Hello @inner olive,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[oak stirrup]

It's a smoke bomb

[raven narwhal]

What’s the pick for these if I’m still early game? Ch 34-12 only two si30

[pulsar marlin]

Lmao no

[oak stirrup]

Hell no, you get access to heroes but do you have the resources for it? Also there is a chance that Marci and Laios will both be gone from NC rotation

Enjoy

[pallid knoll]

This update kinda rewrites the new player guide to dims

[pulsar marlin]

Even with marci it’s still unplayable

Ur still gated by sai sion and begris

[pallid knoll]

Yup defo. Game activity gonna improve again

[oak stirrup]

You don't need to rewrite too much though, Shalltear is still niche just useful member for stall team or Zohra

[inner olive]

surely shalltear is better as an early game dps than rem right

[pallid knoll]

Yep. Its laois and marci who will be thrust to the forefront of dim prio

[pulsar marlin]

Fuck no

[oak stirrup]

Doubt it, depend on NC they might just relegate to CR only

If next boss doesn't include them then it's joever

[pulsar marlin]

Na lib orthos surely won’t get rotated right

And marci is like mainstay that comp

[oak stirrup]

I hope they do because low investment heroes for F2P is wrong, they need to actually build proper meta

[pulsar marlin]

Prio should be rem/shalltear>everything else

Shalltear makes seal at least ok without Whoran

[river shuttle]

shuna > shaltear early on kinda

[pulsar marlin]

Also Whoran might be homeless

Deadass if new hypo has cheat deaths Whoran out of a home

[river shuttle]

he is anyways

[pallid knoll]

Fortunately he doesnt

[oak stirrup]

Is he tank

[pallid knoll]

He has this thing where he can block a fatal strike to his master though

[pallid knoll]

Yep str tank

[oak stirrup]

That's pointless that's just... Hendrik

[pulsar marlin]

Can you take a pic of his skills

[pallid knoll]

Only translated

[pulsar marlin]

That’s ok

Put it through google translate I have read mtl before

[pallid knoll]

Oh wait. Here. Fresh from the oven

[river shuttle]

hes ugly

[pallid knoll]

He's a doggo

[river shuttle]

he looks like he has a d in his ass

[flint granite]

He looks horny tf u mean stacks of pleasure😭

[oak stirrup]

Ahogeman

[solar fractal]

@muted anchor did you see

[muted anchor]

No me blind

[solar fractal]

It’s ok I still love you

Anyways they’re adding Marci to garrison

[muted anchor]

Holyyy

[pulsar marlin]

Interesting, he seems pretty decent, depends on if he can infinitely chain ult

[solar fractal]

Finally

[muted anchor]

Finally

[solar fractal]

T50 incoming frfr

[muted anchor]

T50 r2 when

[solar fractal]

Uhh

Make one of you whales give me woke pets

[pallid knoll]

Yep. Also depends on how tough he is

If he folds at the first strike...

[cobalt abyss]

Early congrats bud

[pulsar marlin]

Congrats, uh donate me enough to get pepega 27

[oak stirrup]

U still won't do well even with that

[pulsar marlin]

No but it’s enough for t50

[steep stream]

WHAT

thank GOD i didnt garrison albedo or rimuru yet

and i didnt spend my dimblems yet

afk arena is healing

[karmic walrus]

more like the bare minimum is being done

[steep stream]

fair

[cobalt abyss]

they just wanted to mess up the new woke prio

[autumn gull]

REALLY??

[solar fractal]

Yes

[autumn gull]

goddamn

now go make another suggestion saying to update garrison

[steep stream]

[cobalt abyss]

they really waited till the last two weeks of the nc round tho but huge win for cr

[autumn gull]

t10 NC now??

[steep stream]

either they find a new round or they fall off either way its a dub

[cobalt abyss]

[cobalt abyss]

This new garrison update is gonna introduce two maybe three new t50 nc players

[pulsar marlin]

Either way new players still can’t compete in nc

[grim hamlet]

Oh fr? Finally wow

[solar fractal]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/small-cat-cat-dance-sleepy-kitten-pathetic-cat-kitten-hold-gif-2871114101866651462

[pulsar marlin]

But ye realistically until they fix boss design new players can’t compete in nc

[autumn gull]

certain things should be about late game tho

starting to get DI after a year of playing doesn’t seem unfair

[pulsar marlin]

It took me a year and 2.1k spent to finally get di range

[grave hollow]

if u want new players to compete u should ask for new NC region tho

[pulsar marlin]

Out of those 2.1k 1k really matters

[autumn gull]

agreed

[grave hollow]

aint no way a 3 years old acc gonna lose to some 3 months old player, it took thousands of $ for that.

[autumn gull]

idk i’m just barely DI range as f2p a year in

[pulsar marlin]

Then you get 3 shit bosses back to back and ur not even t50%

[autumn gull]

:)

[pulsar marlin]

Cough cough threadweaver gouldos cancer devourer

[cobalt abyss]

New nc region is being too hopeful tho

[grave hollow]

still a big dic k move of lilith, marci garrison when R1 is like 2 weeks left

[cobalt abyss]

yeah same exact thought lmao

[grave hollow]

imagine if marci fell off NC right after that

[autumn gull]

silly shit

[karmic walrus]

at least i'll know what my next SI reset will be

[pulsar marlin]

Na marci isn’t gonna fall off

Until orthos lib falls off marci is a parasite on that comp

[cobalt abyss]

Still vital for two or so rotations of cr i think

[grave hollow]

nah ur opinion wont matter bud u aint even 1-digit % in NC

[waxen kraken]

am i silly, i tried to buy hildwin (had 200k guild coins) so i was gonna buy him twice, but it says sold out? can i only buy him once a month?

[pulsar marlin]

I’m di range so I’m a benchmark as well

[inner olive]

i pray he has some kind of ability that makes him use his ult at the start of the battle

if he does he's gonna be one hell of a 1 copy wonder

[pulsar marlin]

He makes charm a lot more consistent ig

[autumn river]

What dims are coming to garrison?

[pulsar marlin]

Next week, shall Laois marci

No sjw cha

So it’s still lowkey rough for ts cuz sjw just him

[inner olive]

they released only like what 6 months ago so fair enough

[waxen kraken]

how long ago did laois and marci come out for them to come to garrison?

[karmic walrus]

april 2025

[inner olive]

what about shalltear

[agile thunder]

which would you +40 si first between lys, misha and lava?

[waxen kraken]

ooh damn been a while then hopefully sjw comes soon i do like him

[pulsar marlin]

Personally lys

Snussy isn’t bad tho, idk about lava

[inner olive]

sung is gonna be a huge game changer for early game comps and garrison priority

[pulsar marlin]

You do want e60 on him so ig ur first e60 is him or woke

Or Knox, whichever you get first

[river shuttle]

lol

[pallid knoll]

That could happen..

Unlocked at Si40

[inner olive]

uh oh icariel incident

[signal iris]

i am again humbly enquiring who (if anyone) to legacy of grit with what i’ve got? someone said mira to randle and bronn to misha before but seemed unsure

[grim hamlet]

Honestly, feels like the surest sign yet lol

[river shuttle]

no need to grit randle you can just ascend him

[pallid knoll]

Randle is fine. Just need food.

Swap:
Bronn - Atheus
Simona - Gorok

[river shuttle]

gorok >

[grim hamlet]

This is a funny take lol. Lib orthros is a unique time stop mechanic that is unreal cheating in a mode like NC based on time and with cheatable time based gimmicks. Marci is a flavor of the week DPS. Lib orthros has been around way before her and will definitely outlive her

[pallid knoll]

Aye. Just noticed he alr has 4 gorren

[river shuttle]

i would rather get misha than atheus ngl

[pallid knoll]

Thats a valid take. He might need the tank though, to push chapters.

But if he has Seal 12 upwards, Misha might be better

[river shuttle]

yea but atheus works perfectly fine at e+ for me

[pallid knoll]

Their copywriter couldn't resist

[coarse turtle]

is it worth taking eltharas engraving to e65?

[pallid knoll]

Oh forgot about that. True then. Misha and Gorok would be better

[signal iris]

i’ve got awakened shemira as my tank currently - so is atheus the better pick or misha
also thankyou everyone for the help

[inner olive]

yo he look freaky asf 😭

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726

[signal iris]

pretty much was the case that she seemed like the best i had - dunno how i missed that early game campaign guide tho wow

[hearty crag]

Dust or juice?

Prob need both

Mmk sounds good ty

[tepid raft]

Hypo looks stupid cant lie

[hearty crag]

Hope he's not better than Knox else i built him for nothing

[inner olive]

tamrus 2.0

[hearty crag]

With new garrison update, is there an update on what should be garrison first?

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[prisma sequoia]

How dare it tell me I'm too weak. I'm still winning 😜

[hearty crag]

Shalltear first over shuna rem?

[pallid knoll]

Marci and Laios in there too

[hearty crag]

Ok so give up shuna

[pallid knoll]

Indeed.. a lot of kraken's calls have been answered

Looks like Lth fixed up licensing issues

We'll probably see Cha and SJW in 6mos

[prisma sequoia]

When does Shaltear arrive?

[pallid knoll]

Next wk in global

[prisma sequoia]

Ooh exciting. So she's good for treasure scramble?

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1475636796405715127/image0.gif

[prisma sequoia]

Nice I'm having fun in baby TS so hopefully I'll enjoy the other version too

[native moon]

my grit is still a while away but i need some advice on hero investment
i’m planning to grit eorin with alvida since i don’t think i can’t grit into jerome because he’s basically almost finished and already has some furn

so now i’m wondering do i need to SI30 eorin before i grit him into alvida? my red emblems are super tight btw. if i do that, i probably won’t be able to SI30 jerome anytime soon

or should i just stop at SI20 and accept that i’m missing the 5k dias reward?

i did SI30 ivan, randle, and knox

[wispy ridge]

is the desired hero 3k ten pull worth it

[muted trench]

What would be the best SI40 to go for

Yeah my question is to who to sı40 next

Ye idm the campaign i left it at 50 for now

huh

No other woke/celep needs sı40 expect thoran rn and thoran sı40 is for nc only no?

[native moon]

oki then, ty

[muted trench]

Thoughts on Marci, i can 9fe60 her soon if i sı40

marcille

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/small-cat-cat-dance-sleepy-kitten-pathetic-cat-kitten-hold-gif-2871114101866651462

[muted trench]

seal 18 pony 16 rest 12

I could swap

[muted anchor]

Cute

[solar fractal]

Your cute

[muted trench]

no way

with the swap event that comes every year

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474037037634945064/image0.gif

[muted anchor]

Prolly swap Scroll or the grit

[muted trench]

Okey awathoran is the way then

[muted anchor]

Only swap event

[muted trench]

No

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1478536461874626701/image0.gif

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1475190466482929714/image0.gif

[muted trench]

@drifting hemlock is it a bad idea to sı40 alvida for seal team? since i use l+ flora and 1 copy talene cuz no shalltear yet

Why the hate on alvida

I want to be stable t100

Well i can do 2 sı30 aswell instead of doing 1 sı40

Okey sounds great

Thank you both

[rocky jay]

HOLY SHIT FINALLY!

[solar fractal]

Haven’t you been playing for 10 years why don’t you have them?

[muted trench]

@drifting hemlock do you have any recommendations for e30 and e60?

[rocky jay]

i missed shaltear by 1 fragment XD

[tepid totem]

holy shit never thought they would update garrison

[solar fractal]

Lmao

Gratz on shaltear

[tepid totem]

garrison prio might change too

[rocky jay]

yeh, have the 600 stones fcking ages ago XD

[craggy oak]

e30 mira gorren good atm, e30 tamrus when you get 9f and si30

palmer e30 as well

[tepid totem]

also new artifacts

i hope they mean colls

[wraith fjord]

NOOOOOOO

[rocky jay]

i wish they eliminate that fcking function XD

[tepid totem]

oh wait its abex

[rocky jay]

or made it f2p friendly...

[tepid totem]

also new coll

me too i wih it was f2p

[rocky jay]

VEGETA YES!!!!

[wraith fjord]

I WANTED TO WATCH THAT 1 guy complain more there funny

[muted trench]

Great ty

[wispy ridge]

thanks ! i was thinking of saving dias now since i have unlocked sg and the temple but now i assume its best to buy cards and pull with them instead of 5k dias
should i do that orrrr should i keep some dias around for sg/temple

[fleet notch]

Anyone knows if Harvey is an awakened?

Confirmed?

[wispy ridge]

appreciate it big Z

[fleet notch]

Sad

[karmic walrus]

Good day to have an extra 600 sgs laying around

[vivid wolf]

[hexed mulch]

I got about a day left on legacy of grit, theres is 2 chances left, what do you guys suggest?

[autumn gull]

i really hope this one is like lavatune level unique but with TS staying power

[solar fractal]

=ratio

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1365328577561886740/RDT_20250425_0707255117226094771476277.jpg?ex=680ce8d3&is=680b9753&hm=b814c2f065b318f58746e04bb4fa6e42892297e393fa95795bd0046ce5451d3b&

[hexed mulch]

Mainly i want to swap eorin snd one of the maulers, if you have other suggestions let me know

[torn ridge]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[autumn gull]

yea swap eorin for sure, can’t see GB in the screenshot but i’d maybe even say swap alvida for someone that needs furn, as she pretty useless without si40

[hexed mulch]

shoot sorry here's gb

[autumn gull]

should be fine to do eorin and alvi, seeing as youre 7/8 copies for mira, misha and gorren

idk to who though 👀

[hexed mulch]

thats what im wondering as well

[autumn gull]

could do eorin to misha if you get his e30 and 3f in time for the quest

[hexed mulch]

quest already gone 💔

[autumn gull]

then why is he on the wishlist still

[hexed mulch]

had no luck with furn

[hexed mulch]

well there is still some time till the swap

but ye he can be removed from there

[autumn gull]

also why aren’t you pulling furn for knox

[hexed mulch]

he wasent prioritised in =furn

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911949525614644

[autumn gull]

at the top it says to pull 9f for any and all woke/ celepog / dragon

[hexed mulch]

oh shit i never read that i guess

[autumn gull]

swap wishlist to include ashem knox and lib for sure

[hexed mulch]

yee will do

[autumn gull]

can swap alvi to tali purely for the furn if you’d like, eorin to misha for similar reasons, and to save fodder
make sure you ascend mira and gorren as next 4f

[river shuttle]

I feel like this needs some update

[hexed mulch]

i'll think about it a bit more but otherwise i think ill go with that

[timber cedar]

Was actually gonna make a watha fawekes team, but not sure if it'll work with m30

[autumn gull]

i’m using that now and it fluctuates

got up to 60% w it tho, not bad

[timber cedar]

M30 fawkes?

[autumn gull]

yea

[timber cedar]

Oof thought you'd get the copy alr

[autumn gull]

nope i am not blessed

[open oyster]

New coll pls be mage/supp

[timber cedar]

18 panda tho... I have a bigger ero coll probably

[autumn gull]

i have 5m oculus, so storm is better

[timber cedar]

So idk which one matters more. Gonna swap elthara to hild too tonight

[autumn gull]

sounds good, use elth in seal

[timber cedar]

Ooff

[timber cedar]

Yep. Btw does gorren buff behind or in front?

[autumn gull]

his 3f spawns a meal in front of him at round start

and the other meals come from his execute iirc

so usually he’s used behind a carry, and with his 9f it’s an instant 40% atk buff and 365 energy i think

sounds pretty nice, but underwhelming too ngl

[prisma sequoia]

When you grit it swaps everything right? Like furniture and engraving?

[autumn gull]

yes

[timber cedar]

Yep have 9f... think i might put him in alna sion or smth

[prisma sequoia]

Sweet

Howd this wishlist look?

[timber cedar]

Put Jerome for eorin at least

[prisma sequoia]

Plan is to grit eorin cause we'll he's eorin..

[autumn gull]

could be nice for 6t

[autumn gull]

i wouldn’t do alvida, you shouldn’t have elthara since she can’t use furn at L and you won’t ascend her, and your first woke should be in there

and jerome and misha > gorren and palmer

[prisma sequoia]

Is elthara not worth gritjng to ascended?

[autumn gull]

not possible sadly

can only grit the four factions with each other, and celestial/hypogeans with each other

[prisma sequoia]

Oh

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1474037037634945064/image0.gif

[prisma sequoia]

I'm very sad now 😢 I put Misha and Jerome on there instead of alvida and Eth. Should I replace Palmer or does he get better?

[cobalt abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-elf-surprised-surprise-shock-gif-4012997033321177703

[prisma sequoia]

Lol but my plan was to grit her. She's carried me for 14 chapters now XD felt she deserved it but not gonna spend those dragon tokens till I have 600? Idk something like that

That's what I was sad about

[high wigeon]

Would talimar be my best option here to go e30 and try to get on the TS boards? For 10%?

I’ve seen her thrown in on some teams maybe a sub

[autumn gull]

talimar is an NC invest

[prisma sequoia]

Alvida isn't going to be useful for a long time is she.

[autumn gull]

you should e30 and e60 sion right now, and have enough to e30 and e60 aurelia when you finish her. if you can do that and still do gorok e30 for TS, go for it he’s very strong

[high wigeon]

Hm maybe gorok? But the team I use him on seems to do fine

[autumn gull]

no, not really

[pallid knoll]

Minimum 20330, but need Rem 20930 alongside her.

By herself, Alvi needs Si40.

[high wigeon]

I can 30 sion I cannot 60 I have 0 cores unfortunately my envy isn’t even down yet it’s e52

[grim hamlet]

Hope you're ready to be at least 3-5s faster for same rank in NC next week

[pallid knoll]

Yes, corrected it. Just remembered her 9f

[autumn gull]

all good

[primal summit]

I can make Eorin Legandary+, should I swap him with Eironn? Bcs I heard hes good but that much better?

[river shuttle]

thsi debuff is much easier anyways

[prisma sequoia]

Si209f30e is how thats read right?

[pallid knoll]

Yes that's right

[grim hamlet]

Probably more then that honestly. Casual and the ones that actually managed the 10s lib orthros only r1 are probably the exception rather then the norm

Now the other half of r8 can actually do r1 lol

[prisma sequoia]

Awesome finally getting the numbers down

[autumn gull]

both of those heroes are useless

[river shuttle]

i actually compete w that whale now 🙁

[grim hamlet]

What's the debuff?

[cobalt abyss]

and there are only three folks that can do that since it requires a huge pony

[grim hamlet]

I stopped looking at them entirely for months now

The rounds are too fixed and our people are too cracked to make use of them anymore lol

[primal summit]

Damn XD Then someone other I have? Or no one?

[harsh acorn]

they finally fixed garrison >:)

[grim hamlet]

There's hope after the lockout!

[harsh acorn]

there is hope for me getting saitama yet :D
just need to wait like 5-6 more months...

[autumn gull]

=restarting

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[grim hamlet]

Btw how'd that kraken lan swap formation go for you in nc

[cobalt abyss]

also the round can get down to 9s with a big pony which is insane for having no marci

[river shuttle]

idk but i got 30b dmg in cr more with nc setup

[grim hamlet]

Well I mean it's not that insane, when lib is also the orthros target 2s of battle time is like an actual full minute of real life time lol

[karmic seal]

Hello guys,
I’m a returning player and I’ve finally manage to get this f2p account past chapter 31.
Unfortunately I didn’t remember you had to fight with 2 teams at some point ( don’t even remenber if I managed to go this far with my old account )

Can you guys give me some advice to which heroes I should upgraded to make my second team ? Or what adjustement should I make to my first team to keep going forward in the campaign ?

Thanks guys have a good day

[harsh acorn]

I haven’t tested it yet. I might not be able to run it since I can’t run elthara in r4 without A1/pegs27

[grim hamlet]

It's very different when Marci is the orthros target and lib can only feed orthros energy when time is not stopped

[harsh acorn]

2 copies of elth away from A1 and only at Pegasus 24 right now

[primal summit]

💀 no way you serious!?

[grim hamlet]

Ok now I'm just confused. These dont have anything to do with each other lol

[cobalt abyss]

the lowest you can get with no marci and pony is 14s which is quite bad don’t you think so 9s in comparison is pretty darn good?

[autumn gull]

you can play however you want but this account is cooked

[grim hamlet]

Oh I do think it is extremely good. And no way I could do it

[autumn gull]

can surpass it in like a day of playing

[grim hamlet]

I just mean when you watch the battles you can see kind of why

There's a reason the lib orthros core has been around so long

[cobalt abyss]

yeah that’s true

[grim hamlet]

Each second of battle that passes is like an eternity of real life time lol

He gets forever to rack up damage

[primal summit]

Proof it

[harsh acorn]

It’s absolutely true if you play long enough. You can ask @river shuttle

[grim hamlet]

Anyway I'm not trying to diminish it. I can't do it. I'm just noting it doesn't seem that crazy to me that Marci is only a smidge faster

[torpid seal]

Is this real??? Pls tell me it’s real

[cobalt abyss]

Orthos really has quite the cheat ability in nc the mode is practically made for him lmao

[river shuttle]

i can make an acc now and be further than you in 2h f2p

[grim hamlet]

She's a stronger DPS it's true. But when lib can only feed energy outside of the time stop each second is a lot more real life time

[primal summit]

Im playing for 2 weeks or so, and starting again would be shit

[harsh acorn]

It’s real. They’re adding shalltear and laios/marci finally…

[autumn gull]

it’s REAL

[torpid seal]

OH MY GOD LFGGGGGGG

[harsh acorn]

Why doesn’t Marci work for you? Can’t you hit at least 9s? If not the 7s?

[primal summit]

In wich way? Lucky on getting better heros or what exactly you mean?

[torpid seal]

Are they coming in the next patch?

[harsh acorn]

That’s fine tbh. It’s a new account hopefully on the newest server. Just keep following popular formations until 5T :)

=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726

[waxen kraken]

is it worth getting eugene soulstones with my bonus guild tokens ?
i bought the TE, DI and 15x hildwin soulstones or should i wait till month reset to buy more te, di and hildwin instead

[river shuttle]

playin better, even w no rng its easy to get this in few hours

[grim hamlet]

I mean you don't have anything there

[primal summit]

Adding to what?

[harsh acorn]

Yep, coming in the next patch

[cobalt abyss]

he hits an impressive 8s with marci were just talking about the non marci comp that maybe only 3-4 players do

[torpid seal]

So ashem is def still first prio then? Since can assume sjw is also coming

[waxen kraken]

dim garrison

[river shuttle]

why would she be

[autumn gull]

not really, most likely third

[torpid seal]

Afakwes still first then?

[primal summit]

And I thought I was ultra luck, to draw SP Solise

[waxen kraken]

o what ashem no longer top? mines currently at m+ do i just finish the job and get her to a or save and start going for next n1 prio instead

[harsh acorn]

The non-Marci comp is def possible for others now. It’s just an invest check for most and that’s difficult on small f2p accounts.

Only the 10s version was kraken. The 14s version isn’t actually that hard for r52 or before probably

[primal summit]

I had luck with SP Solise, maybe you would even draw worse no?

[torpid seal]

Finish her, she still going to be good

[waxen kraken]

okok ty

[river shuttle]

every e hero is better than her

[torpid seal]

Sad to say sp solise is ass

[harsh acorn]

Finish :)

[waxen kraken]

ty!!

[cobalt abyss]

yeah the 14s isn’t that hard i agree it’s just the 10-9s that’s difficult and only achievable by krakens in the new region

[grim hamlet]

It is nice. Kind of. I mean she's not even on the prio list anymore cause no one uses her anywhere. But 1 copy wokes are always nice for the extra vow. And you'll use her in early pve.

But that's not worth holding onto an account over. And otherwise you don't really have anything tbh

[harsh acorn]

The only reason for this is pegs 27 and begris 40960

[grim hamlet]

L heroes are a mistake, especially those ones. They're all a waste of fodder

[autumn gull]

can confirm, 14s is very hard for me

[grim hamlet]

And I'm not really seeing anyone that is on the current wishlist really, at least not the important people

So might as well restart if you took a break

[autumn gull]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[harsh acorn]

The Marci/lib comp is really complex tbh. Lots of small box players could probably hit the 14s, but don’t have enough experience in nc to cook properly for it

[autumn gull]

my orth doesn’t wanna work, he deals too much dmg and gets the debuff

can’t seem to fix it with anything i do, it seems to be a tree issue

[grim hamlet]

FYI this never goes away

[cobalt abyss]

It’s a mostly consistent 9s on my main with marci and occasionally gets 8s

[grim hamlet]

This is why literally everyone hates this round

Even big boxers getting the 7s

Because you can't remove that rng

Sometimes orthros gets devotion

[cobalt abyss]

That round relies heavily on rng

[harsh acorn]

What coll did you want on lib? If you don’t ping + request special coll, I just send whatever is on the hero btw

[primal summit]

Okay, maybe I start again when another new server drops, but idk

I can just get better stuff over time

[autumn gull]

yea coll that it had was the idea ty

[primal summit]

Can you say exactly how? Would be really helpfull, I just started this game

[stiff shoal]

guys, help me make 2 teams for campaign plz 🥹

[torpid seal]

With Ivan Randle and elthara

[harsh acorn]

I’m ready for OPM garrison update

[river shuttle]

[primal summit]

I could get Ivan or randle right now, I have an hero chest

[harsh acorn]

Dude I’m so hyped. I hope OPM comes quickly. I’ll be T1 guaranteed once again TwT

[torpid seal]

Better to restart still and put Ivan Randle on wishlist

[cobalt abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677979578425147412/1475636796405715127/image0.gif

[stiff shoal]

u can get to chapter 16 in few hours , nand chapter 30 in 2-3 days

[river shuttle]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1423503305476149308/image0.jpg?ex=68e08c43&is=68df3ac3&hm=80cbdf44255b205632a05735ac169ba19f38198b6d4ab3ce447c068f0a1b4726&

[grim hamlet]

The reason restarting gets recommended isnt because people want to optimize you for speed in camp. It's because a large part of the f2p income of useful resources comes from the =rgm modes. And your competition is set in those based on your server. So any significant early break makes it really hard to ever get that stuff tbh.

But up to you. If you only care about camp it'll be quite a while before you care. Generally when the stall happens around when multi team starts

[gilded sapphire]

Resource Generating Modes (RGMs)

• TR = Twisted Realm (1 team, challenge a boss for damage, rewards based on ranking)
• TS = Treasure Scramble (2-7 teams, set teams and they auto fight, pvp ranking for rewards)
• CR = Cursed Realm (6 teams, bash enemies for damage and get rewards based on ranking)
• NC = Nightmare Corridor (6 teams, try to kill all the bosses as fast as possible, rewards based on time)

Ranking Reward Distribution

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1hkyvyz/tscrnc_rank_rewards/#lightbox

[stiff shoal]

if u play with ivan randle elthara

[wind sleet]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[primal summit]

And when does the new Server goes live?

[timber cedar]

Not sure if I'm gonna go levi envy or levi sion. Prob levi envy and stack like lan golurk and gorre. In sion

[torpid seal]

The newest server 1190 dropped like a week ago so prob another week?

You can just start in 1190 tho not a difference

[primal summit]

Okay, yea if a new server comes soon I guess I start again. But then aigain if I get bad heros? And thank you

[primal summit]

I just started there, had an account on 358 but it was too long ago

[karmic walrus]

I feel so powerful

[harsh acorn]

Idt you need to restart do you? Your account looked fine

[harsh acorn]

Oh this acc? Yeah…totally restart LMAO

[harsh acorn]

I would buy myself Pegasus 27…I should whale

[karmic walrus]

Pepegasus is my goat

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[grim hamlet]

What you get initially really isn't as big a deal as it feels. Camp is very crept for our power level these days. And you actually need 10 copies of everyone, one doesn't really cut it for nearly every hero after the first week or so lol

So really you just let the wishlist and law of averages do its thing. It all evens out in the end

[karmic walrus]

So true

[river shuttle]

choerryWhale

[dire kayak]

Is Apippa worth

Or A thoran

[tepid totem]

pippa

[primal summit]

💀 XD

[primal summit]

Mhm okay

[olive cape]

What do I take from these chests?

[autumn gull]

did you see his acc?

[harsh acorn]

I thought it was another ss lol

[autumn gull]

it’s this one

[harsh acorn]

you save the chests. try not to use them until you really need to.

[olive cape]

Alright then 🫶

[autumn gull]

this, except for all the chests that have bait as an option. you can just take the bait :)

[olive cape]

Soo for 1st 2 I should just take bait, no questions asked?

[harsh acorn]

until reso 18 ^

[harsh acorn]

I personally would yeah. make sure you read the beasts guide so you don't mess up your reso tricking/battery

[pallid knoll]

The chests with dust, just pop them all

The rest just save until you need to use them to reach a breakpoint or enable a hero

[olive cape]

Haven't activated reso 6 yet cause I still need 2 more pets at level 6

[pallid knoll]

Oh.. pop the dust chests at ch28 or so, to maximize the dust gained. Or if not really into efficiency, just pop them asap

[harsh acorn]

perfect :)

[olive cape]

I'm at ch 37 :))

[olive cape]

Alright then bait it is

[cinder flax]

Finally

[harsh acorn]

huge :D
good for you man, onto all the fun multi-camp fights :D

[charred jetty]

Huh what do you mean?

Shalltear coming to garrison?

[harsh acorn]

shall/laios/marci

[charred jetty]

Wait what

[harsh acorn]

coming with next hypo

[charred jetty]

Lilith finally listened?

Ayyyyy

But frick, we now move onto the next problem I’ve raised

They have so many dims to build

They are all going to collide into each other

My recommendation is still build shuna

But I think Shalltear > rem

Not sure how this is in TS, but I’m pretty sure it’s true in campaign

[solar fractal]

All that time you spent on new guide

[buoyant fern]

we were just talking abt this with @autumn gull lol
shal better in ts

[autumn gull]

yes, they are

[solar fractal]

I don’t agree….

[solar fractal]

Jk

[autumn gull]

for me it’s more about the new woke prio, we have 3 carries first so another carry in dim prio seems excessive

rem 9f + carry is just so strong in early TS

seal is usually just a strong team with just knox and B tier stall units

[autumn gull]

curious what you think?

[buoyant fern]

if onlt ts then shalltear. idk campaign enough or early game at all so...

[autumn gull]

rem is highest prio dim and 9f rn mostly for camp and TS utility

[torpid seal]

what comp is shall used in early ts? is she a team by herself?

[autumn gull]

she’s used in seal stall, and when fawkes is first woke might be used with him

[torpid seal]

ooh bet im excited, whats her invest?

[prisma sequoia]

Just pulled fawkes should I change to Ashem or APippa?

[torpid seal]

is this your first woke?

[prisma sequoia]

Yeah first woke

[torpid seal]

have you pulled for ashem already? if not get afawkes as first built woke

[uneven veldt]

shall/laios/marci omg

shuna just op

shall for ts ig

laios/marci can wait for nc no?

[prisma sequoia]

No Ashem yet. Was told to go for Fawkes as he's a one man team

[torpid seal]

ok then finish afawkes

[autumn gull]

absolutely can wait, it should prob be the third set you go for

[uneven veldt]

when sjw

[autumn gull]

prob 3 months

or another year

[uneven veldt]

He d be useless in another year

Replaced new best dim carry

[coarse turtle]

is randle si40 a decent upgrade for nc? im borrowing him for twisted realm at the moment so that would also free up a borrow slot

[cinder heart]

Depends, its not recommended for you to over invest into a hero unless you spending money, if your f2p and got most of the stuff up already and just bored, you can do it i guess

[signal vortex]

Has it not been 6 months since sjw and cha?

[cinder heart]

I dont think the dimensionals who came out before them have arrived yet

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[prisma sequoia]

You mean bring him to 1 star right?

[autumn gull]

they just did

as in, it got announced today

[autumn gull]

yes

[hybrid breach]

about fucking time damn

[buoyant fern]

LOL

[hybrid breach]

[buoyant fern]

[willow bison]

fara in OS

must be hella bored

[buoyant fern]

more like only got 3 more mins of break left

at least work done early today. then ill finish up rift i think

[tepid totem]

farara sucks

[ivory turret]

Why do the guides refer as to what to do up to chapter 31? What changed afterwards?

[autumn gull]

from ch31 and on you have more than one fight

every four stages there’s a multi-comp battle with two teams

and quickly it becomes three, four and five teams

[ivory turret]

Ah so im giga stuck then. My main team is 500k and im at 30 chapter soon to be 31

[autumn gull]

combat rating matters less than the heroes at your stage

[ivory turret]

Elthara lyca atheus ivan and mira is my go to. Sometimes swap atheus for nara.

[autumn gull]

sounds like a good setup ngl

[ivory turret]

Copied from some guy that is at chapter 31-4 with same setup and like 280k power

[crystal yarrow]

Guys what is shaltears build?