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but I'm talking about just gazing her with TEs
that's the reason why I have 544 spare TEs and don't have mae built lol
Gazing Mae feels bad fr.
I always optimize for resources instead of ranks
hene why I hoard so much compared to other people 
since myu took over my RGMs though, she's been doing rank optimal over resource optimal, and she's obviously goated at RGMs
so account started doing much better
but at the same time from a resource management perspective, I am burning my stash to sustain the high RGM ranks
which I don't mind doing
but if it was just me I would probably just hoard instead lol
ty for this btw
wait no pippaw?
LAN lowkey fraud ass highborn
nah she good
Quick question
is it better to do misha team 5 and velu in wuci
or is it better to do gorren in wuci and velu in envy
@winter halo I know you know
tell me please
for reference, all the krakens use velu in envy
Pippaw only good if you have a strong IS collection or bunny 27. She really only sees use in Skylan as far as I’m aware.
I’m testing her without bunny 27 in 5T but we will see if she’s actually good or not
oh ok
well good thing I have bunny 18

oh wow good catch
I was using call on pippaw
Well jd probably has like a 8x IS storm

So he should use Pippa
I have a triple IS +2 wings
Velu is a pretty strong boost to Wuci. I’m not sure how strong sai/envy is.
Velu is also very big with envy lol. Both seem fine. Gorren seems safer? Not sure which is ultimately better though
Can’t even use flight on pippa. Would have to be a storm
I built it from a lucky run for CR in like 2024
Pippaw or pippa 
yeah I was thinking that too
thehy are both mage 
wings as in the mehira one
Oh I read this and brain gone. Too late. Time for bed lol 

oh yeah that reminds me
@river shuttle btw once you get to ch31 can I use your alt to experiment with new set of early camp multi comps in light of L elthara?
There is really no one in the s1190 server the game is dead or how is it?
wdym by this?
What ?
why do you think there is no one there?
In the channels there is no one talking I feel alone in the world ahaha
Well that's just the game. Nobody really talks in those channels
Nothing of note really happens in the global channel either
Okay okay Thks bro
How about if I have a question or need help I talk on Discord?
And besides, do you have any advice to give to start the game well, a team in particular?
=guide
=todolist
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
- Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
- AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
- Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
Thks bro

like actually though
why bother with that
stall is literally all Elthara + fawkes
It's still busted good though
what for though
I think we can def slow down on it
seal sucks in camp
erm so should we just skip seal18 and just reso6 when we have enough for seal15 and ic12?
U can't expect your seal team to be facing just ice crownteams 
I just think IC is very strong early
wait seal does like nothing though
This debuff that's why, there's no preparation time for seal
take this guy for instance
oh that's true ig
He won because he murdered wheover he was facing because the entire team is double insuranced, seal is just the backup in case shit hits the fan
Owl is haste and remove debuff no?
battle lasted the full 50s of alvida
In a way it's a counter to horse
Shemira and Estrilda are healers
wait but that doesn't matter though, the team lasted the full time and seal was doing stuff for much longer than fawkes and elthara were (though ig elthara doesn't have to be alive for her damage thing)
Seal doesn't power up forever
When at its max is unable to kill stuff, they just lose

why are these battles the example we are using for first lvl18 pet though?
So the above is seal? What level
seal did like 40m
36
I mean look at the dude's stars lol
oh nvm it's actually only 32
but you get the point
Hard to say man, there are people like casual28 out there that can't be explained by science
most whales and dolphins in my server straightup stopped using seal
I still used
they just use pony 27 for the stat buff instead
Nothing fancy, it's just going back to old experience until I find new comps from guide
Damn I would hate to lose a mirror match
So your point is?
drop seal
do someone else to 18 first instead
like idk owl or something I don't actually know RGMs
You're making conclusions based on this specific debuff, you know that?
but I know seal 18 is not BiS in CR or NC anymore
and I know seal sucks in campaign
but again, why are these the examples you are using for new accounts?
you didnt?
no it's more like I can't transfer bsically any knowledge of campaign to RGM
but I do know seal is not in NC and CR
that's why I was only looking at TS
wow casual is rank 1
Pets arent like heroes. You arent wasting your resources to build one that will fall off. because of reso, eventually EVERY pet will be 18
That changes the math
bp quit so its free for casual and gsus now
@charred jetty I swear if you drop seal as first pet am killing you
L elthara did like 80
It’s so important for ts teams for early players
I mean sure, but why seal first is my question
I can’t make teams for them if no seal
is it though?
Yes

yeah idk what that guy is doing, I don't call the shots 
Seal gets 80% with only Knox
Also you don't change the priority just because a pet is out of RGM meta, how long is it going to even take for them to reach those rank tiers?
Let me find wr wait
can you look up some random top 100 people
I am capped on followings
I'll go unfollow some people
@charred jetty t20 r54
Isn't that CR only investment?
dang ish quit
Forgot the pic
no don't look at the WR, look te battle damage report
Literally just Knox seal
I'm not saying stall is dead
I'm trying to say you don't need seal in stall anymore
because L elthara is just better
Just because your team murdered them before seal could do notable damage, doesn't mean seal is useless
Who do you think is killing them lmao Knox?
unless they are running another set of stall
well actually yes
But elthra with lys team better
Since they won’t have pony where seal actually works at 18
but lower ranked people probably knox
Elthra with fawk/watha better
U want to look? Look at %ers and then claim seal is useless
Is that the Falco guy

yeah idk don't ask me about his roster
seal did 46m
knox did 60m
so yes actually it's knox killing them
But that’s not fair am fighting will ppl half my tree

@charred jetty Wait so, if the seal team lost, but seal did massive damage, you would say seal is very useful?
I'm looking at much lower ranked people btw
Seal did cc
ofc
it doesn't matter win or lose, if he did big damage he is useful
WR doesn't matter, it's the impact of seal in the team
That's weak bro, have you considered the possibility that, because you invested seal, that's why your team murders them with less effort and not have to rely on seal damage?
I mean that's definitely true
but like is seal cc better than like Owl or Chest or whatever?
hmm this is a good counter example
Well if you want to be sure, put your proposed comp removing seal and put another pet 
it's just the same comp
but just no seal
use E lys with fawkes instead
again not trying to say stall should be dropped
just seal not needed for stall, that's all
Are you treating TS like it's just randomised campaign now 
I'm literally looking at the comps 
Seal on top forever
Remember, seal can crit, and it does way bigger when it crits
woah how did that guy even last that long 
yeah ik, that's why I'm ooing at a bunch of different replays
I noticed elthara doing more damage than seal on my team, that's why I started looking into this
wow what are these comps
RNG makes fights all over the place anyway, sometimes you fail early other times Elthara murders their team
But elthra isn’t gonna be used with seal

L elthara?
No uses her there anymore now that she found her spot
really?
Yes
everyone in my server just stacks her in seal
If TS was about low team count matches sure, but if you want the ranks you put eggs in different basket
Old region no?
R54 different breed
yeah old region
this is another top 100 r54
so like ig seal is still decent super duper early on
but for how long becomes another question
yeah ig it doesn't really matter which 18 pets you build since they are all gonna get reso 18 anyways
This is NOT CR you don't count usefulness by how much damage done, you consider it by whether the damage even small, can turn a loss to win because it did enough to KO them
but surely there are better options?
like e.g. they do IC 12 panda 12 specter 12 instead
prob get reso18 by time seal wont be doing as much dmg as ur other hero so wouldnt be that big of an issue
wow
since 12 is so much cheaper than 18
I mean you are right
You may get small advantage but then what's next? You're most likely winning less fights, win less = lower rank
I just looked at kraken player wr and even they don’t use her in seal that much
but again idk if it's worth
seal gets its power at 18
Seal and horse are literally 6v5
oh true 7t much harder to make for new player
yeah I mean like just waiting on seal until later
6 v 5 sure, but in a stage of the game where it's basically just 2v2
Speaking about seal new pet when 
What's more likely to win, a seal sniping them off? Or another pet doing their stuff but doesn't prevent your team from being wiped out?
like look at the teams of these people
it's literally 2-3 key pieces and the rest RBSG
TS is all about building team and pray you face the easier fights
next pet will be woke again

Since they all do different shits so it's inevitable someone wins with wacky team
dragon pet when
well the difference here is seal 18 is literally TS only
West velu envy
Skylan Alna/siatma
Wuci Levi Aurelia
Reset just filler hero’s
like not even campaign quality TS only
oh actually is seal good in rift? I don't play rift so idk
At the moment, but remember you said? New player should be focusing TS only because NC is closed off
uh I mean more the people who are using like L whoran

Even though various guild servers and official made it sound like everyone is a top 100 TS genius, overwhelming majority still don't know how to play
They use whatever they get without purposely going for meta meta and more meta
yeah I know, but the thing is seal isn't even that good at TS, which is a problem when it's a super expensive thing that is TS only
stuff like fawkes is also good in NC and CR and campaign and whatnot, but also happened to be good in TS
same as knox
Again, you're now just like so many other F2Ps thinking of investments only in terms of "efficiency"
and we only focus the TS effects because that's more important
So you'd ward off stuff like Lysander SI40 "because it's not needed and you can do the same with SI30"
I mean when they have very limited resources, they have to maximize efficinecy
But this comes back to what I said. Pets are not expensive in the same way as heroes. They are progress toward reso18
it's all about getting the best value for their buck
becase they only hve 5 bucks

but they delay reso 12
since they don't have to trick a pet to 18 if there are no better 18 candidates
You focus too much efficiency, and the actual effect is, they probably lose their chance of going up higher, because they didn't go for the so called 'not efficient' but essential for climbing
they can just trick a bunch of pets to 12
It's probably easiest way to top 100, but very likely that's as far as you will ever go
but that's the thing though, I don't think seal 18 is essential for climbing
@muted anchor I dropped out of t200

I think 18 is such a big bump that even if we replaced seal we would still recommend rushing an 18 of someone
that's exactly what I'm trying to clarify here 

Who knew that Levi can’t be subbed in nc?!?!?!
obviously if we show seal 18 is actually essential for climbing, screw theory go build seal 18 lol
but
Wait, people are still using Leviathan in NC? 
Missing Levi makes you drop out of t200??!?!?
I thought people transitioned to new comp already, Levi free
would we though
Ice crown only useful purpose is to counter seal, you ain't getting all fights against seal teams
That's just wrong
but there should be a bunch of breakpoints before 18
IC is very strong esp early
IC counters everything early
they legit don't have engravings to TY to resist CC
so they all get frozen
Well prove me wrong by doing it in R54 with icecrown 12 ahead, and report back with TS results
Chances are you probably end up with 90% win rate ice crown and then single digit % everything else to 'balance'
in campaign too, IC just wins like everything
i mean but even if that's true, we only invested 12 into IC, which is way cheaper than 18 into seal
so they can build like panda and specter to 12 too
so in terms of balanced teams, not doing seal is definitely more balanced
And how big of an impact is panda spector 12 in TS?
I legit don't know lol
Ice usless in rift tho enemies have so much TY
but the pet guide says they are breakpoints
should i get the pet
oh
is seal good in rift?
The pet yes wishes no
ok
=beasts
Beasts
Get all 
let me just pull up the guide
No
all
ok wow this is long
i saw so many ppl saying 18k for 30 wishes is expensive
do you think so 
let me quick claude summarize
early ofc
If you're F2P where else are you going to get the frosty flakes? Doing GF with a good guild? 
Chat gpt ahh
IC 12, Owl 9, Talis 9, panda 9 etc. stuff
you know like getting the reso 12 section of the guide is probably cheape than seal 18 
ok nvm it's not, 6 12 is a lot of pets to 12 lol
Like, even if you think panda treat 12 are more efficient and lead to all rounded TS ranks, I still don't think it's a difference maker to let you in top 100 where the rewards literally scale up expotentially
Lowkey panda 6 not that bad to make fawk not targetable
but you get my point, I'm saying it's probbaly better to have a bunch of 9s and 12s over seal 18
yeah
that's a good counter point
You're looking at 20% to 15%
for stall they can just use panda 6 instead
way cheaper than seal, idk if it's actually worse, and if so how much worse if they use L elthara there too
well top 100 r54 people don't have reso 18
my phone just died 
someone else check plz
pretty sure they just have reso 12 with select lv18 pets though
that's our prescribed path
nah reso12 is generous
what's the frosty flakes
Them red gem things for awakened pet
they still at reso6
Sometimes I call it sugar gems because they remind me of breakfast cereal
wow I also have no idea how awakened pets work 
oh they are called wishleaves
but yeah, actually leaves, not gems

yeah that's what I thought too
so really having seal 18 costs them so much in other teams
which would be worth it if he can solo boost a team
but from the looks of it, seal 18 isn't even that strong in stall 
but maybe they can run 2 stall teams
have fawkes panda solo, and then knox + seal 18 as a different comp
maybe on alt acc i can try rushing reso12 instead of seal18?
@oak stirrup can i get ur wpippa or does anyone need it?
ngl with elthara coming in the scene stargazing strat is outperforming 4f summons

Let me get around to hitting CR first and decide what alt needs 
yeah elthara carrys u to ch31+ and then u really need knox as another team
nah knox is better when c33 hits
yeah thats where my alt is rn, cant really progress without A knox
rem / mira need way too high of a level
Okay
I used elthara as carry in ch40+
metoo
Not rly
i used to disregard sg strat since its so dependent on luck
but with elthara you can reach A knox before 33 hits
when you actually need him
hi chat destroyer
Hi
or was it actually me all dis time
'
And you blamed me smh
u played a role blud u the catalyst
im the main culprit 
thx
what do you think its the best budget team for CR i see ppl using watha and afawkes but i can only merc one 
js need to hit 1 more chest
Merc watha and use Palmer
Over fawk
alr lemme try
Merc both, build teams accordingly, run 10-20 times with both forms, to see which is better
who to sub Asolise with in the lost spire
for smol boxes js use any healer you have (the best one)
Aka ivan/shuna
uhhhhh shuna, velu, or misha?
my shuna not gud enough so sad water spirit keeps lingering at 10% health
Wait a few days and just murder them with Liberta meta team
@dark musk since i’m new and f2p player should i buy smth here?
Hello @dim socket,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
save for garrison
is he good?
LMo
im jk man garrison is a feature in friends bruv
its where u can essentially borrow a dim
garrison top 3 tanks in the game bro
released like years ago still meta all the way
who’s garrison, i can’t find him
he was like second or third release ever right?
Awfawkes, Numisu, Lib
uhhhh
Can use any of those with the default team
Hes sooo op
it’s still garrison > envy right?
I just decided to join this game after playing for years and I see people trolling a newbie. I love you guys 😭
he trolled himself ngl
i told him the real meaning 
yeah komik already said it and he still didn’t get it
Lmao

It should be a strict requirement for you to pass IELTS test before you are allowed to play classic 

if you dont understand ngl its on you to be trolled
not on us cuz its funny as hell 
I don't need to though, I just feel like being mean 
alr u a different breed 

got 2days left on legacy of grit, what’re the top picks to swap to ?
needa see box
Hey champ, who can i use instead of Wolise? Is Liberta a good substitude?
just used afawkes and it worked
and ivan
I had gut feeling Skylan would be a great hero, didn't say it back then, time and time against he's proven himself, by the time I said to #1 Skylan, there are still unbelievers, and now he's still prominent and some people already hitting themselves for not building him sooner, where they could have gotten higher ranks like top 20
@river shuttle Yo how to distribute resources for new dragon's SI40
wait what r u playin
is it just me or is this box not where it should be for two days left of grit
yoo why r u not ascending randle
elthara apparently
Wym
dont you know better than me?
i guess mira for randle and bronn for misha
I'm terrible at distributing resources because I found out my alt's Elthara actually had higher SI than main's, so now I must incorporate her SI45 into equation
Only have one copy of Elthara, not awakened. Neither have Fawkes.
Also no sign of SI special pack like for some dragons 
honestly forgot i had saitama waiting to be linked - no knox cause the guide i saw first said go Lib and then i saw the knox one and it said finish lib first - wasn’t asvending randle cause wasn’t sure when to swap from rem to him
Did you open the game for 2 days and then quit or how does this happen too be ur box at grit end
randle is better then rem
he's even saving his diamonds
He trying to be Hat
wdym swap rem to randle

nah wtf bro use all of those diamonds to pull and THEN ask to grit u have nothing rn
what are you saving for
#994913771598389318 message can we delete that part please? Its horrible
liberta with max runes ig
Its outdated and brings people to finish lib wich is a mistake in 90% of cases
what r u talking about rn
Dark te- oops spoke too much
Ty, i ll try that. The healing is good in stage 19 but i lack dmg.
I didnt build new guy idk what investment he needs ngl
okay will go burn through diamonds - and change lib to knox at stargazer
Which rune is third?
i usually up everything at one go on the 6th day
in your case prolly atk then haste ?
yeyeyeye
feel like not much changed from the pulls but happy to proven wrong (changed stargazer to knox for future too)
@vivid wolf and for boss comp, can i replace Alyca with Envy?
2b for full rewards amd dip
thanks for your answers 🫶

You mean the lib part?
Yea
I wish I built skylan when he came out

It doesnt make sense to have there anymore
All merc requests this week cancelled, because fuck you CR

CR do be like that sometimes
i hope lib falls off nc soon
I doubt this will ever happen tbh
Unless the entire meta powercreeps to the moon
lol
is there a furniture wishlist guide
Not much you can do better than infinite stop time damage lol
Well actually maybe if someone else feeds energy like Bert does
is he still worth si40
what is the reso trick?
Holyyy thats looks so cursed with si30 envy
chest of wish do i take dust or essence
=beasts
Beasts
i have 20k gems, should i waste im summons?
=diamonds
Diamond Priorities:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1139293511695482972
waste?
Wts???

lib still worth si40?
Did you see
I think there was an official ad with Dante from dmc
wym 4f ascend?
=terms
All right, I've decided, from now on no mercs for anyone who I don't ever consider important
I get 50 points so easily, no reason to give more
Fr? What dims they adding?
Where?
Ain’t no way 
That would explain why companions has a dead week
lemme mercccccccc
You should be glad you're not in official
im always glad im not on global
We need are other lanes more consistent
Like imma say that caps and skewmond are good there always consistently doing at least good
But broken blade and bot lane some times just are useless
Well get rid of him then, and dispose body somewhere nobody pays attention to
Sounds dope but till my near blind eyes see it I don't believe it 🤣
not really in current NC since marci wants highest cmbr
There Is any guide about mytic gear? IDK if i should level mine, keep them at lv1 for now…
Level the stars? You will find that it gives miniscule upgrade compare to upgrading its tier with stones
Is that one of the healer stage? You might have to wait out a few days and max stat upgrades and then try Liberta again, the cheat sheer is Solise awakened
Or any healer, is Estrilda usable?
I guess ill take my own then
I'm sorry but CR made me in such a foul mood it changed me not for the better
Cancelling all merc requests that I intentionally left still up for a reason, is just the beginning
I actually ended up removing 2 people that had been in list for a long time, by the way
This cr is horrible
I'll end up even more horrible than the CR at this rate
After all, why do I need more than 20 active people on friend list?
i just beat 19 by maxing attack

hijacky :piratedopey:
Naroko might actually work
my only L+ heros are whats on there, so no unfortunately
ill take your word for it
youre goated that actually worked
🍻
Hey hey ! What do you advise to take here please ?
You either:
- Pick one of the three dim heroes, finish building, so slot gets replaced with red chest
- Build celepogean offered in this store
Guys my daimia is doing all the dmg in my ashem sjw team
codex oath mark important for new accounts? like just take a shem copy early and eventually build one star for hp
instead of going for fawkes
What is the command to see Si investment optimization?
=ratio
Guys will Aurelia be good in a envy team?!
Try and find out, don't assume people are psychics
You don't want to take the risk? Then don't do it in the first place 
Its 1 round before calculation so
Ty. Im geting 17 s instea of 7 or 10... what is the biggest leverage here? Lys si 40 ? Or Melion si 40?
Try after calc if you’re not sure
Why fox? I thought there's better options
Could be colls aswell
You do have 5ERO thunder on Aurelia yes?
Also shouldnt tank tree be 77 or 107?
What instantly worked for me was either FATK bounty, or FERO vault
Athalia Coll or Aurelia cols?
Alr
Could be any, we cant see yours
All of them, you want stat stacking on everyone, Athalia +1 dancer, Aurelia 5ero
And as much PP as you can get for Lysander
I thought there's a better pet option than fox
Was like ibis or something
Gyts what kind of coll does daemia need
=colls
Okay guess i have to rework all colls...
Lion
How long have you not updated your comps? I thought as a top 20 TS your NC is like, okay
Oh yeah lion gosh
This lion there idk the name
It's just Winged Lion but I still treat it as the real fox
It looks like a fox
I call the other one pummeluff
I'm just waiting for this last miserable 5 minutes so I can move on from this current guild

It’s insane, the best f2p quite literally
xD... NC is just... too much... dont understand shit... and dont want to invest too much time in it... its prety much TS only account...
But im even faling behind in TS cuz i guess no Ethara??
NC is crap... Colls... Haste manip??
Elthara counts a LOT for all modes, NC is currently horse rabbit level 27 check, basically each update forces you to go harder on investing
I wish my nc was better my ts is what keeps me alive
Exactly... Guess ill start with Horse... Agi and Mage stat right??
There's stat priority? I always just do 3 levels at a time
Oh okay... i guess were not in same league... Farara did a post about Rabiit stat prio if i recall correctly...
Guess ill do all of them like you
Can i stop at level 24 ?? For NC??
Does it work that well on NC? I'm 42/39 so I won't know lower levels anymore
Only because this fucking round is dogshit and allows otherwise underdeveloped to get more luck
Should be revamped
All these unskilled shit c*nts getting better R1 than they deserved and get massive boost
Idk... heard that 47 was okayish
It's been a year since 77 is the norm
Is this worth in early game?
It makes R1 easier
So i keep 77 even when playin TS??
How can it be worth if you can't even afford it at all? It's potentially 9000 diamonds for one copy
Regular summon is 2700 per 10 by the way
I know thats why im asking ,is it rly worth extra 300
No
Yea fair
Got enough to ascend mira, do i remove her from wishlist or do i need stars?
=wishlist
So 1 star
Feel like Warior tree is useless for TS... there is barely any warrior... maybe ill just keep it at 47 ??

Saitama is a warrior by the way
Why dagger so high? 
Cuz dps are agi?
Envy Skylan JSW
Is there any difference ? Or just preference ?
The difference is as described
Okay so building a dim hero to get some dim shard to upgrade another dim hero is possible with that ? If so, I'll do that maybe to upgrade Shuna or Rem
By the way, how do we know if we need Shuna or Rem please ?
No? Whatever dim shard it says it's for, you build that dim hero only, this isn't companions
=todolist
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
- Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
- AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
- Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
@willow bison On second thought, maybe Nihi is not a good place to be for me
Ah, it's not what I mean, I have the wrong terminology. I mean after you get the 60 shards, you have the chest with Emblem, with dim emblems.
But I just saw we can get Alna in this shot. So I think I'll just build Alna
Is there any other good Celepogean hero in this shop other than Alna ?
Dim emblem is only for maze shop, this gladiator store you get red chests
They're all good in their own ways if you know how to use them
Oh I see. Thank you then
Hmm I see. Sadly I don't know a few of them. I'll ask if I need when I'll have Alna A1. Thank you Kisaka for the guidance !
Oh last quick question, in the guild shop, is it interesting to take the DI or TE ? Or do I stay on Hildwin ?
Can you stop pinging every single sentence?
Ah yes, sorry. I desactivated it
You should be able to buy out the Hildwin shards + 10 TE
DI seem expensive at your current stage
Yes it is a bit. Well, I'll take the TE then and Hildwin will wait a bit for more shard, I only have 15 for now
Then you sack te’s bro wtf
You cannot afford to miss out on any di
Interesting, well I’ll start buying them then
I’ve never bought a DI from that shop 
You’re trolling right?
has to be
If not he prolly sacked more than one hb
hi guys, how can i activate faction bonus so i can t3 this?
I have 2 HBs at 40960 (Lan and Levi) + Hildwin obv
So i’m def one behind (I also have 300 di rn)
You know why now
Mistakes can be fixed by spreading open the wallet
anyways I’ll stop neglecting them cuz that’s like 600+ DI missed just through that lmao
that’s so crazy
Nah it’s pretty normal for me, I only started focusing on meta and minmaxxing back in June of 2025. I’m still learning 
Anyways I also quit from Jan 2022 and came back in Jan 2024 and everything was different
When I quit we only had TR lmao, rank plates didn’t even exist
I think AwThane had just released as well. What a time 
Ouch
I quitted when athalene was released
I had an awful burnout phase back then, the 800 floor rift or so definitely didn’t help
I quit when Kregor released
verify data fail pops up cause i swap equip while auto battle happening?
this is funny idk why
It’s doing ok for 2 years of playing. I never took a full box pic but here’s a simple comparison. Yes I’m aware I don’t have a built Zohra, yes it’s a pain in the ass but I had to build Fawkes 
First pic is like bang on Jan 2024
You can tell I was still in 2021 when I came back 
well maybe its not that funny
i dont usually get that hungry
i think im speaking english
now im in a conundrum, am i speaking english or is this all fake

Next e60? Wait for Knox?
either knox or ashem depending on how fast you get em
I’m ch25, should i use this ticket and temple of time? Or keep them
nonono never say that
its always knox and if they gather enough resources to do both only then they can think about ashem
i did e60 knox first, should the next one be lib?
lib / ashem can be debatable but knox should always be first
you missmatch then, she doesnt need anything except the book artifact
this is kinda what im running
Anyone that need sl20 of the ones that don't have?
And should I make someone sl 30 or just save for Knox sl40?
if youre not using lib charm properly you cant use it at all
im not sure what im doing wrong, does lib need some more investing maybe?
no, lib charm has a pretty specific formation for everymulti stage and you kinda have to copy paste, even then its rly rng
thats a bad matchup for charm bc of Kelthur, Ferael spirits, and Monke clones
ahhhh i see

should i just pull for fawkes, does he work at L?
Anyone?
=siprio
Signature Item Prio Guide:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1008942630199107654
knox si40 is nice tho if you can afford to do that
I mean I'm not yet at 37-60 to get whites from afk rewards soo idk
you could do the recommended si30s before that then
Only one that I could do would be Jerome cause the rest 3 are already sl30 and my envy is only L
yeah you could do jerome and then save
im not entirely sure though

Anyone with other ideas?
And should I buy the wish leafs with gems from the exchange?
Rn I'm sitting at 72k gems and I stopped doing 4f summons since I think I have enough of them ascended.
And secondly: no, im not post reso 18
I can't tell you for sure cause I have no ideas of good teams for TS, and that's the only RGM unlocked for me for now
Here's my roster for now
Look at leaderboard formations for r54
Sounds good then
How do I do that? And is that for team ideas for TS?
Hey everyone,
I've had a new account for a week now, and I'm more or less stuck on chapter 32-30.
Do you recommend I pull one copy of Afawkes and one copy of Apippa? (I've seen they're pretty useful for grinding the campaign.)
For now, I've only pulled one copy of Ashemira as indicated in the guide, but she's pretty useless at this point...
Thanks everyone 🙂
Wuts that saitama positioning
No idea. Just took a random screenshot 🤷♂️

These are my teams
Don’t pull 1x woke copies. Just finish your current woke
I kind of want to trade my whoran for wawkes at anniversary
Who subs asol in spire
Thoran still used for other stuff no? He fallen off dis quickly!
hii, sorry for jumping the massage , if its not ok let me know and I wont do it again:>
I wanted to ask, for now should I just level up those fodders to lvl160 & L+ ? also, how can I know what are the fodders from each faction ?
I deviated 1000% from the guide and have cleared every chapter so far just using strong heroes. Might not get as much dmg on marsh queen we will see
ohh ok, so the first one are those I should not ascend until I have those 10/8 copies of them
thanks:>
Dust chest can be opened at chapter 29 right?
open as soon as you need to continue level progress imo
But that's when they cap right?
something like that
Any good?
Sweet time to get Elora past 160
@glass zephyr gimme your tower teams
Rem is usually better on frontline, but not sure about an incomplete built one
think she gets a lot of damage reduction from engraving which you don't have yet
Don't have the 9f, only at 3f and sl20 and +1 clover
si20 is fine. she wants e30 though
her furn is not super make or break either
but yeah, that looks decent for now
oh put lysander in position 4
Where Knox is?
lysanders ult is based on his position
Rough…
he wants position 4 if he is going to ult, so yeah where knox is
Arc knows far more than me if he has advice
No you’re doing fine lol.
Any team ideas? Or at least some tips on who to use with who or something
Henry made a lot of good suggestions. I’d just follow what he said above and do your best. I’d also check in with your guild and ask to learn there. I think you were an olympians member?
Very solid progress, I wouldn’t suggest building dims early tho
Oh you’re in a random guild
Olympians is a great guild if you can get in
Yeah 😅
Idk any good guilds to join or something, I just picked one that I saw was kinda active
i fucking hope so
Check out my profile for a link. I’d suggest joining the desert branch (the casual one). Way more active and more white chests than your current guild
You need to fix your furn wishlist as well. You’re behind on a lot of prio furn and are not pulling the right ones
Soo who am I picking?
I made this wishlist for my apprentice or w/e
If our Saitama over rem since you have him
I’d put*
And instead of aShem and Knox? Cause they already at 9f
liberta, rem maybe?
get mira to 3f before you remove her
she is good in early game/mid game. i am taking her to 9f now
So for here take out alvida and put liberta? And what else?
alvida is kind of good, i might get a second opinion on removing her
aethus needs to go, i think other than that no glaring errors
Alright, still didn't have any mythical on him soo, no big deal
Might also wait a bit for shuna, she is OP af but hard to garrison two at a time without spending
I have 4 mythical in the storage room for liberta waiting on her to get to A
Finally got 8 copies of my first hero, its Iván, should i upgrade it to a?
yes, if you can do so without hurting your level cap
Where exactly on your profile?
Which one is that?
What you mean with level cap?
Desert is good to. I am part of TS
i dont know what your rc looks like. if you have to eat fodder you are using for your rc level cap I would wait
in the pronouns area. there should be a discord link
I need assistance. I just reached chapter 29 and I'm struggling pretty badly. Average of 4 to 5 fights to win. Any advice? Here are my heros.
What Is rc?
Looks fine for the most part. Stop ascending characters before you have the fodder/copies necessary though. it doesn't help
resonance crystal
Yeah I made some mistakes at the beginning.
We all do. No biggie. Just keep pushing forward. Look at recommended formations. Get used to individual levels taking loads of tries
Ah okay so it's normal then?
I had a few Flora levels that took me hundreds of tries...
Ewww no
auto-battle homie
Yeah. I try and change formation to where Elara live longest then let it go. Mostly switch out Mira and the deer girl
it gets really bad in the 30s and 40s, but by the time you get to 50s camp is easy, just constantly power capped
nope
Lol guess I'll keep pushing. Might shoot Ivan to 200 to help. If I could get mythic gear to drop that would be great too. Bought the star path and still nothing but air.
yes, level your ascended to cap if you can
Yes, if you have the fodder. You would be replacing one 160 on the RC with Ivan, should be fine
yea, you have the fodder so go for it
Okaay
don’t know if you have to reset the fodder at rickety
if you eat fodder it resets auto I am 95% sure
i think you just get it back for free
with fodder and ivan copies
Probably wants an L+ GB fodder. Going to have to make another to feed him
2x E+ and 2x L+ per A. Or 10x E+
hello:> as a new player who does not mind spending a bit , is there something which is a must buy?
Hello @ancient rapids,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
=spending
Priorities for Spending Money
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828

Ngl if i want to even spend i cant since that apparently requires a visa in my country

Hi
cant get above 10% in ts, is it just me being dumb or is it just a box issue
What teams you have set?
for now
Need to improve your roster and team setup. Here are guides for Forest debuff:
man the substitutes not even being in my box
i hate ts
so like should i just make kinda teams that resemble the idea of those teams? just to break through 10% lmao
im 14% rn and thats kinda the highest ive been so far
well i mean, i am but not atm
im just gonna fix up my teams maybe, see if i can just balance em around
Who to select from here?
on these purple cards which type should i use?
bud what happened this week? You let me beat you by like 4s in NC. I figured you weren't going to let that stand lol. Don't tell me lack of marci is getting to you
Hit and dipped
ah
But if you wanna compete
nah I'm good lol
I’ll make sure to hit peak
casual is ur r54 account fully f2p? or did u switch
you used to give me shit when I made comments about not trying for my best possible peak lol
Casual ignoring my dma lol
Cant beat me
All casual accs are f2p
It just came through btw

«17:57»
how da hell are u 1st in ts w a f2p account, thats impressive as fuck
Bad connection
Yeah he found some insane strats that just got him through
I have 3 accs all are vip17
am i being played here
thats what i thought but im too gullible to people who are higher rank than me
speaking of f2p though, proxy is 🐐
real, insane achievement
actual vip10 f2p, t200 cr
nihi 13/50 t50 cr too 
Kraken guild
Bunch of lovely people there tho


do yall fucj with my burger comps
is this w team composition or what? make me top 100 already sheesh
Cant t100 w this
i know.
When are we discovering the secret proxy whaling 
u dont have to ruin a mans dreams
lib charm in ts 
it works trust
mehira has 0 IS it doesnt work in pvp
fml

hilariously the least concerning team despite that
boom
WHAT. i thought i cooked up man 😭
I mean team 2 is just misha stall ig? there's no dps lol
Im gonna give it two months till we see cc get t50 nc
i put seal there and im praying
oh it really is misha stall
Your not giving Randle enough credit
eh ok maybe that's the least concerning team then
see, at least someone gets my genius.
should prob have the one copy elth tho no?
which one should i select?

yall better watch out when my box improves. My team comps will change up the game!
yep. I give him like 0 credit in TS as anything other then a support. Ults are like impossible to come by if you don't guarantee them and he needs multiple. and the snakes are bonding with himself lol
ur breaking my heart over here
why is ts so complicated
and this?
ok
you know we always say blues but honestly, I really dont think anyone should ever use 
its just so absolutely terrible and useless
just recycle it and run with the other 2 and an empty slot for blue runs
I actually agree with that
honestly why dont we just always run triple golds
seems like you would get better colls that way
save the third blue and just upgrade to purple?
yea exactly
guys just run triple miracle worker
like that totem gives you two shit runes at the very end. you can't even swap them
+4 colls 
u get it
every coll now has a cheat death at +4
This is genius
its better as 1/500th of a gold then actually including it in your blue runs lol







