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charred jetty
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well swap I would yeah

winter halo
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Which otherwise has 0 value

charred jetty
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but I'm talking about just gazing her with TEs

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that's the reason why I have 544 spare TEs and don't have mae built lol

harsh acorn
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Gazing Mae feels bad fr.

charred jetty
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I always optimize for resources instead of ranks

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hene why I hoard so much compared to other people belovedzikis

winter halo
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Aka you play the boring way

charred jetty
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since myu took over my RGMs though, she's been doing rank optimal over resource optimal, and she's obviously goated at RGMs

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so account started doing much better

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but at the same time from a resource management perspective, I am burning my stash to sustain the high RGM ranks

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which I don't mind doing

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but if it was just me I would probably just hoard instead lol

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ty for this btw

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wait no pippaw?

pulsar marlin
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LAN lowkey fraud ass highborn

tepid totem
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nah she good

charred jetty
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Quick question

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is it better to do misha team 5 and velu in wuci

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or is it better to do gorren in wuci and velu in envy

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@winter halo I know you know

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tell me please

winter halo
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How am I supposed to know

charred jetty
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for reference, all the krakens use velu in envy

winter halo
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?????

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Well we know what you are

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So there's your answer

charred jetty
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f2pest player of all time

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I guess I'll just use numisu

harsh acorn
# charred jetty wait no pippaw?

Pippaw only good if you have a strong IS collection or bunny 27. She really only sees use in Skylan as far as I’m aware.

I’m testing her without bunny 27 in 5T but we will see if she’s actually good or not

charred jetty
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oh ok

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well good thing I have bunny 18

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oh wow good catch

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I was using call on pippaw

winter halo
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Well jd probably has like a 8x IS storm

charred jetty
winter halo
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So he should use Pippa

charred jetty
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I have a triple IS +2 wings

harsh acorn
# charred jetty

Velu is a pretty strong boost to Wuci. I’m not sure how strong sai/envy is.

Velu is also very big with envy lol. Both seem fine. Gorren seems safer? Not sure which is ultimately better though

winter halo
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Yes use that on Pippa

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The mage

charred jetty
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wings

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not flight

harsh acorn
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Can’t even use flight on pippa. Would have to be a storm

charred jetty
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I built it from a lucky run for CR in like 2024

harsh acorn
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Pippaw or pippa pippega

charred jetty
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thehy are both mage treznap

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wings as in the mehira one

harsh acorn
charred jetty
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gn gn

winter halo
charred jetty
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ok I'll try this

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if it doesn't work it's okay I'll just blame nerds

winter halo
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?????

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Barely back for a month and I'm already being slandered

charred jetty
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see even you think you are useless

winter halo
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Can't trust an SS that's in military time

charred jetty
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oh yeah I also have this from back then

winter halo
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Admins help jd is perpetuating violence against me

charred jetty
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oh yeah that reminds me

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@river shuttle btw once you get to ch31 can I use your alt to experiment with new set of early camp multi comps in light of L elthara?

round flower
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There is really no one in the s1190 server the game is dead or how is it?

round flower
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What ?

olive jewel
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why do you think there is no one there?

round flower
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In the channels there is no one talking I feel alone in the world ahaha

olive jewel
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Well that's just the game. Nobody really talks in those channels

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Nothing of note really happens in the global channel either

round flower
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How about if I have a question or need help I talk on Discord?

olive jewel
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yes

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people on the in game chat will probably make it worse

round flower
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And besides, do you have any advice to give to start the game well, a team in particular?

olive jewel
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=guide

olive jewel
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=todolist

gilded sapphireBOT
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Beginner TODO-List

  1. Read and follow =wishlist
  2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
  3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
  4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
  5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
  6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
  7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
  8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
  9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
  10. AFK
  11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
  12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
  13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn grave

round flower
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Thks bro

charred jetty
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also guys

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do new players even bother building seal 18 anymore

olive jewel
charred jetty
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like actually though

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why bother with that

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stall is literally all Elthara + fawkes

olive jewel
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It's still busted good though

charred jetty
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what for though

olive jewel
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I think we can def slow down on it

charred jetty
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seal sucks in camp

olive jewel
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TS

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I think we can prioritize IC 12 more. That's my hot take

torpid seal
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erm so should we just skip seal18 and just reso6 when we have enough for seal15 and ic12?

oak stirrup
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Wait what? Skip seal when it's literally 6v5?

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You don't want to win anymore or what

oak stirrup
olive jewel
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I just think IC is very strong early

charred jetty
oak stirrup
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This debuff that's why, there's no preparation time for seal

charred jetty
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take this guy for instance

charred jetty
oak stirrup
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He won because he murdered wheover he was facing because the entire team is double insuranced, seal is just the backup in case shit hits the fan

charred jetty
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but even something like this

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the team got stalled out and lost to burst

oak stirrup
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Owl is haste and remove debuff no?

charred jetty
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battle lasted the full 50s of alvida

oak stirrup
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In a way it's a counter to horse

charred jetty
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do you know how much damage seal did

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literally 120m

oak stirrup
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Shemira and Estrilda are healers

charred jetty
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wait but that doesn't matter though, the team lasted the full time and seal was doing stuff for much longer than fawkes and elthara were (though ig elthara doesn't have to be alive for her damage thing)

oak stirrup
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Seal doesn't power up forever

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When at its max is unable to kill stuff, they just lose

river shuttle
olive jewel
charred jetty
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same matchup against weaker opponent

oak stirrup
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So the above is seal? What level

charred jetty
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seal did like 40m

charred jetty
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I mean look at the dude's stars lol

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oh nvm it's actually only 32

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but you get the point

oak stirrup
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Hard to say man, there are people like casual28 out there that can't be explained by science

charred jetty
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most whales and dolphins in my server straightup stopped using seal

oak stirrup
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I still used

charred jetty
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they just use pony 27 for the stat buff instead

oak stirrup
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Nothing fancy, it's just going back to old experience until I find new comps from guide

charred jetty
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much weaker parties in this one

oak stirrup
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Damn I would hate to lose a mirror match

charred jetty
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seal did like

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literally nothing

oak stirrup
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So your point is?

charred jetty
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drop seal

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do someone else to 18 first instead

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like idk owl or something I don't actually know RGMs

oak stirrup
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You're making conclusions based on this specific debuff, you know that?

charred jetty
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but I know seal 18 is not BiS in CR or NC anymore

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and I know seal sucks in campaign

olive jewel
charred jetty
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uh

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I guess I should go scout r54 instead

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brb

oak stirrup
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You can't fully transfer knowledge of campaign to RGM

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They just don't work that way

river shuttle
charred jetty
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no it's more like I can't transfer bsically any knowledge of campaign to RGM

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but I do know seal is not in NC and CR

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that's why I was only looking at TS

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wow casual is rank 1

olive jewel
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That changes the math

steep stream
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bp quit so its free for casual and gsus now

charred jetty
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ok some random top 100 in r54

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seal did 20m

solar fractal
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@charred jetty I swear if you drop seal as first pet am killing you

charred jetty
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L elthara did like 80

solar fractal
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It’s so important for ts teams for early players

charred jetty
solar fractal
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I can’t make teams for them if no seal

charred jetty
solar fractal
charred jetty
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yeah idk what that guy is doing, I don't call the shots pippega

solar fractal
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Seal gets 80% with only Knox

oak stirrup
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Also you don't change the priority just because a pet is out of RGM meta, how long is it going to even take for them to reach those rank tiers?

solar fractal
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Let me find wr wait

charred jetty
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can you look up some random top 100 people

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I am capped on followings

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I'll go unfollow some people

solar fractal
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@charred jetty t20 r54

olive jewel
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Isn't that CR only investment?

charred jetty
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dang ish quit

solar fractal
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Forgot the pic

charred jetty
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no don't look at the WR, look te battle damage report

solar fractal
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Literally just Knox seal

charred jetty
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I'm not saying stall is dead

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I'm trying to say you don't need seal in stall anymore

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because L elthara is just better

oak stirrup
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Just because your team murdered them before seal could do notable damage, doesn't mean seal is useless

solar fractal
charred jetty
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unless they are running another set of stall

charred jetty
solar fractal
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But elthra with lys team better

charred jetty
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that guy is realyl hihg ranked though

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so probbaly not knox

solar fractal
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Since they won’t have pony where seal actually works at 18

charred jetty
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but lower ranked people probably knox

solar fractal
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Elthra with fawk/watha better

oak stirrup
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U want to look? Look at %ers and then claim seal is useless

charred jetty
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corbeau quit too

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rip

oak stirrup
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Is that the Falco guy

charred jetty
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Ok this random guy…

solar fractal
charred jetty
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yeah idk don't ask me about his roster

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seal did 46m

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knox did 60m

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so yes actually it's knox killing them

solar fractal
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But that’s not fair am fighting will ppl half my tree

charred jetty
oak stirrup
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@charred jetty Wait so, if the seal team lost, but seal did massive damage, you would say seal is very useful?

charred jetty
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I'm looking at much lower ranked people btw

solar fractal
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Seal did cc

charred jetty
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it doesn't matter win or lose, if he did big damage he is useful

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WR doesn't matter, it's the impact of seal in the team

oak stirrup
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That's weak bro, have you considered the possibility that, because you invested seal, that's why your team murders them with less effort and not have to rely on seal damage?

charred jetty
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but like is seal cc better than like Owl or Chest or whatever?

solar fractal
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Seal did more than elthra pippega

charred jetty
oak stirrup
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Well if you want to be sure, put your proposed comp removing seal and put another pet tidussnout

charred jetty
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it's just the same comp

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but just no seal

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use E lys with fawkes instead

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again not trying to say stall should be dropped

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just seal not needed for stall, that's all

oak stirrup
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Are you treating TS like it's just randomised campaign now Rakuhmm

solar fractal
charred jetty
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I'm literally looking at the comps areyouseirus

solar fractal
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Seal on top forever

oak stirrup
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Remember, seal can crit, and it does way bigger when it crits

charred jetty
charred jetty
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I noticed elthara doing more damage than seal on my team, that's why I started looking into this

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wow what are these comps

oak stirrup
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RNG makes fights all over the place anyway, sometimes you fail early other times Elthara murders their team

solar fractal
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But elthra isn’t gonna be used with seal

charred jetty
charred jetty
solar fractal
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No uses her there anymore now that she found her spot

charred jetty
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really?

solar fractal
charred jetty
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everyone in my server just stacks her in seal

oak stirrup
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If TS was about low team count matches sure, but if you want the ranks you put eggs in different basket

solar fractal
oak stirrup
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R54 different breed

solar fractal
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Shes now mostly used with watha

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Or fawk since most new players don’t have her

charred jetty
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yeah old region

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this is another top 100 r54

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so like ig seal is still decent super duper early on

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but for how long becomes another question

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yeah ig it doesn't really matter which 18 pets you build since they are all gonna get reso 18 anyways

oak stirrup
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This is NOT CR you don't count usefulness by how much damage done, you consider it by whether the damage even small, can turn a loss to win because it did enough to KO them

charred jetty
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but surely there are better options?

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like e.g. they do IC 12 panda 12 specter 12 instead

torpid seal
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prob get reso18 by time seal wont be doing as much dmg as ur other hero so wouldnt be that big of an issue

tepid totem
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wow

charred jetty
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since 12 is so much cheaper than 18

oak stirrup
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You may get small advantage but then what's next? You're most likely winning less fights, win less = lower rank

solar fractal
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I just looked at kraken player wr and even they don’t use her in seal that much

charred jetty
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but again idk if it's worth

tepid totem
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seal gets its power at 18

oak stirrup
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Seal and horse are literally 6v5

charred jetty
charred jetty
charred jetty
solar fractal
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Speaking about seal new pet when treznap

oak stirrup
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What's more likely to win, a seal sniping them off? Or another pet doing their stuff but doesn't prevent your team from being wiped out?

charred jetty
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like look at the teams of these people

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it's literally 2-3 key pieces and the rest RBSG

oak stirrup
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TS is all about building team and pray you face the easier fights

charred jetty
oak stirrup
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Since they all do different shits so it's inevitable someone wins with wacky team

torpid seal
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dragon pet when

charred jetty
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well the difference here is seal 18 is literally TS only

solar fractal
charred jetty
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like not even campaign quality TS only

charred jetty
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oh actually is seal good in rift? I don't play rift so idk

oak stirrup
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At the moment, but remember you said? New player should be focusing TS only because NC is closed off

charred jetty
oak stirrup
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Even though various guild servers and official made it sound like everyone is a top 100 TS genius, overwhelming majority still don't know how to play

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They use whatever they get without purposely going for meta meta and more meta

charred jetty
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stuff like fawkes is also good in NC and CR and campaign and whatnot, but also happened to be good in TS

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same as knox

oak stirrup
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Again, you're now just like so many other F2Ps thinking of investments only in terms of "efficiency"

charred jetty
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and we only focus the TS effects because that's more important

oak stirrup
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So you'd ward off stuff like Lysander SI40 "because it's not needed and you can do the same with SI30"

charred jetty
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I mean when they have very limited resources, they have to maximize efficinecy

olive jewel
charred jetty
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it's all about getting the best value for their buck

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becase they only hve 5 bucks

charred jetty
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since they don't have to trick a pet to 18 if there are no better 18 candidates

oak stirrup
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You focus too much efficiency, and the actual effect is, they probably lose their chance of going up higher, because they didn't go for the so called 'not efficient' but essential for climbing

charred jetty
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they can just trick a bunch of pets to 12

oak stirrup
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It's probably easiest way to top 100, but very likely that's as far as you will ever go

charred jetty
solar fractal
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@muted anchor I dropped out of t200treznap treznap

olive jewel
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I think 18 is such a big bump that even if we replaced seal we would still recommend rushing an 18 of someone

charred jetty
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that's exactly what I'm trying to clarify here tidussnout

oak stirrup
solar fractal
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Who knew that Levi can’t be subbed in nc?!?!?!

charred jetty
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obviously if we show seal 18 is actually essential for climbing, screw theory go build seal 18 lol

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but

oak stirrup
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Wait, people are still using Leviathan in NC? Frog_Derp

solar fractal
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Missing Levi makes you drop out of t200??!?!?

oak stirrup
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I thought people transitioned to new comp already, Levi free

charred jetty
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because IC 12 is also huge

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so is like panda 12

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and specter 9

oak stirrup
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Ice crown only useful purpose is to counter seal, you ain't getting all fights against seal teams

charred jetty
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idk the breakpoints outsisde of campaign

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so you guys have to help me here belovedzikis

charred jetty
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but there should be a bunch of breakpoints before 18

olive jewel
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IC is very strong esp early

charred jetty
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IC counters everything early

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they legit don't have engravings to TY to resist CC

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so they all get frozen

oak stirrup
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Well prove me wrong by doing it in R54 with icecrown 12 ahead, and report back with TS results

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Chances are you probably end up with 90% win rate ice crown and then single digit % everything else to 'balance'

charred jetty
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in campaign too, IC just wins like everything

charred jetty
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so they can build like panda and specter to 12 too

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so in terms of balanced teams, not doing seal is definitely more balanced

oak stirrup
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And how big of an impact is panda spector 12 in TS?

charred jetty
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I legit don't know lol

solar fractal
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Ice usless in rift tho enemies have so much TY

charred jetty
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but the pet guide says they are breakpoints

stiff shoal
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should i get the pet

charred jetty
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is seal good in rift?

solar fractal
stiff shoal
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ok

charred jetty
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=beasts

gilded sapphireBOT
oak stirrup
charred jetty
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let me just pull up the guide

solar fractal
drifting hemlock
oak stirrup
charred jetty
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ok wow this is long

drifting hemlock
# oak stirrup

i saw so many ppl saying 18k for 30 wishes is expensive

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do you think so areyouseirus

charred jetty
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let me quick claude summarize

drifting hemlock
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early ofc

oak stirrup
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If you're F2P where else are you going to get the frosty flakes? Doing GF with a good guild? pepelaughpoint

charred jetty
river shuttle
charred jetty
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IC 12, Owl 9, Talis 9, panda 9 etc. stuff

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you know like getting the reso 12 section of the guide is probably cheape than seal 18 pippega

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ok nvm it's not, 6 12 is a lot of pets to 12 lol

oak stirrup
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Like, even if you think panda treat 12 are more efficient and lead to all rounded TS ranks, I still don't think it's a difference maker to let you in top 100 where the rewards literally scale up expotentially

solar fractal
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Lowkey panda 6 not that bad to make fawk not targetablezikicorn

charred jetty
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but you get my point, I'm saying it's probbaly better to have a bunch of 9s and 12s over seal 18

charred jetty
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that's a good counter point

oak stirrup
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You're looking at 20% to 15%

charred jetty
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for stall they can just use panda 6 instead

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way cheaper than seal, idk if it's actually worse, and if so how much worse if they use L elthara there too

charred jetty
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my phone just died treznap

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someone else check plz

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pretty sure they just have reso 12 with select lv18 pets though

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that's our prescribed path

torpid seal
oak stirrup
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Them red gem things for awakened pet

torpid seal
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they still at reso6

charred jetty
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like the magic leaf?

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oh

oak stirrup
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Sometimes I call it sugar gems because they remind me of breakfast cereal

charred jetty
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wow I also have no idea how awakened pets work pippega

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oh they are called wishleaves

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but yeah, actually leaves, not gems

charred jetty
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so really having seal 18 costs them so much in other teams

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which would be worth it if he can solo boost a team

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but from the looks of it, seal 18 isn't even that strong in stall pippega

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but maybe they can run 2 stall teams

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have fawkes panda solo, and then knox + seal 18 as a different comp

torpid seal
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maybe on alt acc i can try rushing reso12 instead of seal18?

river shuttle
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@oak stirrup can i get ur wpippa or does anyone need it?

drifting hemlock
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ngl with elthara coming in the scene stargazing strat is outperforming 4f summons

oak stirrup
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Let me get around to hitting CR first and decide what alt needs shoulazy

torpid seal
drifting hemlock
torpid seal
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yeah thats where my alt is rn, cant really progress without A knox

drifting hemlock
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rem / mira need way too high of a level

river shuttle
torpid seal
river shuttle
drifting hemlock
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i used to disregard sg strat since its so dependent on luck

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but with elthara you can reach A knox before 33 hits

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when you actually need him

solar fractal
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Hi

drifting hemlock
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or was it actually me all dis time homegalul '

solar fractal
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And you blamed me smh

drifting hemlock
drifting hemlock
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im the main culprit pensivelucius

dim socket
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thx

drifting hemlock
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js need to hit 1 more chest

solar fractal
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Over fawk

drifting hemlock
oak stirrup
queen edge
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who to sub Asolise with in the lost spire

drifting hemlock
river shuttle
queen edge
drifting hemlock
oak stirrup
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Wait a few days and just murder them with Liberta meta team

dim socket
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@dark musk since i’m new and f2p player should i buy smth here?

hollow parcelBOT
dim socket
drifting hemlock
queen edge
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LMo

drifting hemlock
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im jk man garrison is a feature in friends bruv

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its where u can essentially borrow a dim

queen edge
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garrison top 3 tanks in the game bro

drifting hemlock
dim socket
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who’s garrison, i can’t find him

queen edge
pallid knoll
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Awfawkes, Numisu, Lib

drifting hemlock
pallid knoll
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Can use any of those with the default team

river shuttle
queen edge
viral smelt
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I just decided to join this game after playing for years and I see people trolling a newbie. I love you guys 😭

drifting hemlock
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i told him the real meaning isathumbsup

queen edge
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yeah komik already said it and he still didn’t get it

viral smelt
oak stirrup
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It should be a strict requirement for you to pass IELTS test before you are allowed to play classic tidussnout

drifting hemlock
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not on us cuz its funny as hell homegalul

oak stirrup
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I don't need to though, I just feel like being mean Joorvis

queen edge
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kisaka the evil

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skylan team looking infinitely better

river shuttle
signal iris
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got 2days left on legacy of grit, what’re the top picks to swap to ?

solemn olive
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Hey champ, who can i use instead of Wolise? Is Liberta a good substitude?

queen edge
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and ivan

signal iris
oak stirrup
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I had gut feeling Skylan would be a great hero, didn't say it back then, time and time against he's proven himself, by the time I said to #1 Skylan, there are still unbelievers, and now he's still prominent and some people already hitting themselves for not building him sooner, where they could have gotten higher ranks like top 20

drifting hemlock
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wait no knox too?

oak stirrup
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@river shuttle Yo how to distribute resources for new dragon's SI40

drifting hemlock
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wait what r u playin

queen edge
drifting hemlock
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yoo why r u not ascending randle

river shuttle
drifting hemlock
#

yo you actually have zero good grits

#

maybe grave guy to alvida

queen edge
#

i guess mira for randle and bronn for misha

oak stirrup
#

I'm terrible at distributing resources because I found out my alt's Elthara actually had higher SI than main's, so now I must incorporate her SI45 into equation

solemn olive
oak stirrup
#

Also no sign of SI special pack like for some dragons trezNap

signal iris
#

honestly forgot i had saitama waiting to be linked - no knox cause the guide i saw first said go Lib and then i saw the knox one and it said finish lib first - wasn’t asvending randle cause wasn’t sure when to swap from rem to him

river shuttle
# signal iris

Did you open the game for 2 days and then quit or how does this happen too be ur box at grit end

drifting hemlock
#

he's even saving his diamonds

oak stirrup
#

He trying to be Hat

drifting hemlock
queen edge
#

what are you saving for

river shuttle
vivid wolf
river shuttle
queen edge
#

what r u talking about rn

oak stirrup
#

Dark te- oops spoke too much

solemn olive
river shuttle
signal iris
#

okay will go burn through diamonds - and change lib to knox at stargazer

solemn olive
#

Which rune is third?

vivid wolf
#

i usually up everything at one go on the 6th day

#

in your case prolly atk then haste ?

drifting hemlock
vivid wolf
signal iris
#

feel like not much changed from the pulls but happy to proven wrong (changed stargazer to knox for future too)

solemn olive
#

@vivid wolf and for boss comp, can i replace Alyca with Envy?

vivid wolf
#

2b for full rewards amd dip

solemn olive
#

thanks for your answers 🫶

vivid wolf
oak stirrup
#

@river shuttle Forget the merc

#

Not in the mood anymore

river shuttle
charred jetty
river shuttle
oak stirrup
#

All merc requests this week cancelled, because fuck you CR

charred jetty
charred jetty
#

CR do be like that sometimes

tepid totem
#

i hope lib falls off nc soon

charred jetty
#

Unless the entire meta powercreeps to the moon

tepid totem
#

lol

stiff shoal
#

is there a furniture wishlist guide

charred jetty
#

Not much you can do better than infinite stop time damage lol

#

Well actually maybe if someone else feeds energy like Bert does

tepid totem
#

is he still worth si40

serene mantle
#

what is the reso trick?

autumn river
charred jetty
#

No way we are getting another set of dims already

hearty crag
#

chest of wish do i take dust or essence

charred jetty
gilded sapphireBOT
dim socket
#

i have 20k gems, should i waste im summons?

charred jetty
#

=diamonds

gilded sapphireBOT
serene mantle
vivid wolf
tepid totem
#

lib still worth si40?

charred jetty
#

I think there was an official ad with Dante from dmc

dim socket
#

wym 4f ascend?

charred jetty
#

=terms

gilded sapphireBOT
vivid wolf
#

jd halppppppppp

oak stirrup
#

All right, I've decided, from now on no mercs for anyone who I don't ever consider important

#

I get 50 points so easily, no reason to give more

autumn river
solar fractal
pulsar marlin
#

That would explain why companions has a dead week

oak stirrup
#

You should be glad you're not in official

vivid wolf
wraith fjord
#

We need are other lanes more consistent

#

Like imma say that caps and skewmond are good there always consistently doing at least good
But broken blade and bot lane some times just are useless

oak stirrup
#

Well get rid of him then, and dispose body somewhere nobody pays attention to

jaunty storm
autumn gull
proud cipher
#

There Is any guide about mytic gear? IDK if i should level mine, keep them at lv1 for now…

oak stirrup
#

Level the stars? You will find that it gives miniscule upgrade compare to upgrading its tier with stones

hexed mulch
#

im having issues with lost spire 19, any tips?

oak stirrup
#

Is that one of the healer stage? You might have to wait out a few days and max stat upgrades and then try Liberta again, the cheat sheer is Solise awakened

#

Or any healer, is Estrilda usable?

river shuttle
oak stirrup
#

I'm sorry but CR made me in such a foul mood it changed me not for the better

#

Cancelling all merc requests that I intentionally left still up for a reason, is just the beginning

#

I actually ended up removing 2 people that had been in list for a long time, by the way

oak stirrup
#

I'll end up even more horrible than the CR at this rate

#

After all, why do I need more than 20 active people on friend list?

hearty crag
#

i just beat 19 by maxing attack

upper acorn
#

hijacky :piratedopey:

oak stirrup
#

What the fuck is this

#

If you set collections in TS it gets applied for CR as well

pallid knoll
hexed mulch
hexed mulch
hexed mulch
pallid knoll
atomic lodge
#

Hey hey ! What do you advise to take here please ?

hollow axle
#

=invest

#

=40960

oak stirrup
crystal yarrow
#

Guys my daimia is doing all the dmg in my ashem sjw team

hearty crag
#

codex oath mark important for new accounts? like just take a shem copy early and eventually build one star for hp

#

instead of going for fawkes

hollow axle
#

What is the command to see Si investment optimization?

oak stirrup
#

=ratio

crystal yarrow
#

Guys will Aurelia be good in a envy team?!

oak stirrup
#

Try and find out, don't assume people are psychics

#

You don't want to take the risk? Then don't do it in the first place Sip

crystal yarrow
#

Its 1 round before calculation so

hollow axle
# oak stirrup =ratio

Ty. Im geting 17 s instea of 7 or 10... what is the biggest leverage here? Lys si 40 ? Or Melion si 40?

river shuttle
oak stirrup
#

Why fox? I thought there's better options

oak stirrup
#

You do have 5ERO thunder on Aurelia yes?

river shuttle
oak stirrup
#

What instantly worked for me was either FATK bounty, or FERO vault

hollow axle
crystal yarrow
river shuttle
oak stirrup
#

All of them, you want stat stacking on everyone, Athalia +1 dancer, Aurelia 5ero

#

And as much PP as you can get for Lysander

#

I thought there's a better pet option than fox

#

Was like ibis or something

crystal yarrow
#

Gyts what kind of coll does daemia need

oak stirrup
#

=colls

hollow axle
river shuttle
oak stirrup
#

How long have you not updated your comps? I thought as a top 20 TS your NC is like, okay

#

Oh yeah lion gosh

river shuttle
oak stirrup
#

It's just Winged Lion but I still treat it as the real fox

river shuttle
river shuttle
oak stirrup
#

I'm just waiting for this last miserable 5 minutes so I can move on from this current guild

vivid wolf
craggy oak
#

wtf gang

#

proxy just hit first t200 CR f2p talenerise

cobalt abyss
#

It’s insane, the best f2p quite literally

oak stirrup
#

Rubbish round

#

It shouldn't even work this way

#

Anyone who disagree can go die

hollow axle
oak stirrup
#

Elthara counts a LOT for all modes, NC is currently horse rabbit level 27 check, basically each update forces you to go harder on investing

wraith fjord
hollow axle
oak stirrup
#

There's stat priority? I always just do 3 levels at a time

hollow axle
#

Can i stop at level 24 ?? For NC??

oak stirrup
#

Does it work that well on NC? I'm 42/39 so I won't know lower levels anymore

#

Only because this fucking round is dogshit and allows otherwise underdeveloped to get more luck

#

Should be revamped

#

All these unskilled shit c*nts getting better R1 than they deserved and get massive boost

hollow axle
oak stirrup
#

It's been a year since 77 is the norm

ivory turret
#

Is this worth in early game?

oak stirrup
#

It makes R1 easier

hollow axle
oak stirrup
#

Regular summon is 2700 per 10 by the way

ivory turret
ivory turret
#

Yea fair

#

Got enough to ascend mira, do i remove her from wishlist or do i need stars?

oak stirrup
#

=wishlist

oak stirrup
#

=furnprio

#

=furn

ivory turret
#

So 1 star

hollow axle
#

Feel like Warior tree is useless for TS... there is barely any warrior... maybe ill just keep it at 47 ??

oak stirrup
#

Saitama is a warrior by the way

hollow axle
#

Envy Skylan JSW

atomic lodge
oak stirrup
#

The difference is as described

atomic lodge
#

By the way, how do we know if we need Shuna or Rem please ?

oak stirrup
#

No? Whatever dim shard it says it's for, you build that dim hero only, this isn't companions

#

=todolist

gilded sapphireBOT
#

Beginner TODO-List

  1. Read and follow =wishlist
  2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
  3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
  4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
  5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
  6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
  7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
  8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
  9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
  10. AFK
  11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
  12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
  13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn grave

oak stirrup
#

@willow bison On second thought, maybe Nihi is not a good place to be for me

atomic lodge
#

Is there any other good Celepogean hero in this shop other than Alna ?

oak stirrup
#

Dim emblem is only for maze shop, this gladiator store you get red chests

#

They're all good in their own ways if you know how to use them

atomic lodge
atomic lodge
#

Oh last quick question, in the guild shop, is it interesting to take the DI or TE ? Or do I stay on Hildwin ?

oak stirrup
#

Can you stop pinging every single sentence?

atomic lodge
karmic walrus
#

DI seem expensive at your current stage

atomic lodge
river shuttle
#

You cannot afford to miss out on any di

autumn gull
#

at any stage in the game DI are the highest priority

#

never skip em

karmic walrus
#

Interesting, well I’ll start buying them then

#

I’ve never bought a DI from that shop pippega

river shuttle
autumn gull
#

has to be

open oyster
#

Why u no top 200 CR

#

wts hacker

river shuttle
night summit
#

hi guys, how can i activate faction bonus so i can t3 this?

karmic walrus
#

So i’m def one behind (I also have 300 di rn)

night summit
#

so i cant t3 this equipment?

#

so i just wasted my resources?

#

oki thank you 🙁

torpid sand
river shuttle
karmic walrus
autumn gull
#

that’s so crazy

karmic walrus
#

Nah it’s pretty normal for me, I only started focusing on meta and minmaxxing back in June of 2025. I’m still learning tidussnout

#

Anyways I also quit from Jan 2022 and came back in Jan 2024 and everything was different

#

When I quit we only had TR lmao, rank plates didn’t even exist

#

I think AwThane had just released as well. What a time treznap

tepid totem
#

Ouch

river shuttle
karmic walrus
autumn gull
#

gj on persevering

#

i am quite curious where your account is at now tho

torpid sand
barren fjord
#

i quit when uh

#

idk 2 years ago

hearty crag
#

verify data fail pops up cause i swap equip while auto battle happening?

barren fjord
#

this is funny idk why

karmic walrus
#

First pic is like bang on Jan 2024

#

You can tell I was still in 2021 when I came back homegalul

barren fjord
#

well maybe its not that funny

#

i dont usually get that hungry

#

i think im speaking english

#

now im in a conundrum, am i speaking english or is this all fake

karmic walrus
barren fjord
#

anyways that was fun

#

everything

#

all is fun

dire granite
#

Next e60? Wait for Knox?

barren fjord
proud cipher
#

I’m ch25, should i use this ticket and temple of time? Or keep them

river shuttle
#

its always knox and if they gather enough resources to do both only then they can think about ashem

hexed mulch
#

i did e60 knox first, should the next one be lib?

river shuttle
hexed mulch
#

alr

#

does mehira need investment after i get her at E? she keeps on dying on me

river shuttle
hexed mulch
#

this is kinda what im running

olive cape
#

Anyone that need sl20 of the ones that don't have?
And should I make someone sl 30 or just save for Knox sl40?

river shuttle
hexed mulch
river shuttle
inland vigil
#

thats a bad matchup for charm bc of Kelthur, Ferael spirits, and Monke clones

hexed mulch
#

should i just pull for fawkes, does he work at L?

gilded sapphireBOT
hexed mulch
#

knox si40 is nice tho if you can afford to do that

olive cape
hexed mulch
olive cape
hexed mulch
#

im not entirely sure though

harsh acorn
olive cape
#

Anyone with other ideas?

#

And should I buy the wish leafs with gems from the exchange?

olive cape
#

Rn I'm sitting at 72k gems and I stopped doing 4f summons since I think I have enough of them ascended.
And secondly: no, im not post reso 18

#

I can't tell you for sure cause I have no ideas of good teams for TS, and that's the only RGM unlocked for me for now

#

Here's my roster for now

shy crescent
#

Look at leaderboard formations for r54

olive cape
#

Sounds good then

olive cape
shy crescent
#

Go to rankings. Follow some people and look at their teams

hoary crane
#

Hey everyone,
I've had a new account for a week now, and I'm more or less stuck on chapter 32-30.
Do you recommend I pull one copy of Afawkes and one copy of Apippa? (I've seen they're pretty useful for grinding the campaign.)
For now, I've only pulled one copy of Ashemira as indicated in the guide, but she's pretty useless at this point...
Thanks everyone 🙂

uneven veldt
shy crescent
uneven veldt
shy crescent
#

These are my teams

shy crescent
#

I kind of want to trade my whoran for wawkes at anniversary

wraith fjord
#

Who subs asol in spire

uneven veldt
#

Thoran still used for other stuff no? He fallen off dis quickly!

ancient rapids
#

hii, sorry for jumping the massage , if its not ok let me know and I wont do it again:>
I wanted to ask, for now should I just level up those fodders to lvl160 & L+ ? also, how can I know what are the fodders from each faction ?

shy crescent
ancient rapids
#

ohh ok, so the first one are those I should not ascend until I have those 10/8 copies of them

ancient rapids
#

thanks:>

prisma sequoia
#

Dust chest can be opened at chapter 29 right?

shy crescent
#

open as soon as you need to continue level progress imo

prisma sequoia
#

But that's when they cap right?

shy crescent
#

something like that

olive cape
prisma sequoia
#

Sweet time to get Elora past 160

wraith fjord
#

@glass zephyr gimme your tower teams

shy crescent
#

think she gets a lot of damage reduction from engraving which you don't have yet

olive cape
shy crescent
#

si20 is fine. she wants e30 though

#

her furn is not super make or break either

#

but yeah, that looks decent for now

#

oh put lysander in position 4

olive cape
shy crescent
#

lysanders ult is based on his position

harsh acorn
shy crescent
#

he wants position 4 if he is going to ult, so yeah where knox is

#

Arc knows far more than me if he has advice

harsh acorn
#

No you’re doing fine lol.

olive cape
pulsar marlin
#

Isn’t this literally wawkes dialogue

#

I’m guessing next week is dead patch?

harsh acorn
pulsar marlin
harsh acorn
#

Oh you’re in a random guild

shy crescent
#

Olympians is a great guild if you can get in

olive cape
autumn gull
#

i fucking hope so

harsh acorn
harsh acorn
#

You need to fix your furn wishlist as well. You’re behind on a lot of prio furn and are not pulling the right ones

shy crescent
#

I made this wishlist for my apprentice or w/e

#

If our Saitama over rem since you have him

#

I’d put*

olive cape
shy crescent
#

liberta, rem maybe?

#

get mira to 3f before you remove her

#

she is good in early game/mid game. i am taking her to 9f now

olive cape
shy crescent
#

alvida is kind of good, i might get a second opinion on removing her

#

aethus needs to go, i think other than that no glaring errors

olive cape
shy crescent
#

Might also wait a bit for shuna, she is OP af but hard to garrison two at a time without spending

olive cape
#

I have 4 mythical in the storage room for liberta waiting on her to get to A

proud cipher
#

Finally got 8 copies of my first hero, its Iván, should i upgrade it to a?

shy crescent
olive cape
proud cipher
shy crescent
shy crescent
harsh acorn
prisma sequoia
#

I need assistance. I just reached chapter 29 and I'm struggling pretty badly. Average of 4 to 5 fights to win. Any advice? Here are my heros.

shy crescent
shy crescent
prisma sequoia
shy crescent
prisma sequoia
#

Ah okay so it's normal then?

shy crescent
#

I had a few Flora levels that took me hundreds of tries...

prisma sequoia
#

Ewww no

shy crescent
#

auto-battle homie

prisma sequoia
#

Yeah. I try and change formation to where Elara live longest then let it go. Mostly switch out Mira and the deer girl

shy crescent
#

it gets really bad in the 30s and 40s, but by the time you get to 50s camp is easy, just constantly power capped

tepid totem
#

nope

prisma sequoia
#

Lol guess I'll keep pushing. Might shoot Ivan to 200 to help. If I could get mythic gear to drop that would be great too. Bought the star path and still nothing but air.

shy crescent
#

yes, level your ascended to cap if you can

proud cipher
#

Should i upgrade Iván then to A?

shy crescent
autumn gull
#

yea, you have the fodder so go for it

proud cipher
#

Okaay

autumn gull
#

don’t know if you have to reset the fodder at rickety

shy crescent
#

if you eat fodder it resets auto I am 95% sure

autumn gull
#

i think you just get it back for free

proud cipher
#

Lets check

#

Yea i got it back

#

Now he is mytic, how do i keep pushing him?

shy crescent
#

with fodder and ivan copies

#

Probably wants an L+ GB fodder. Going to have to make another to feed him

#

2x E+ and 2x L+ per A. Or 10x E+

proud cipher
#

Niceee got him to 200

#

I guess randle would be better but its fine

ancient rapids
#

hello:> as a new player who does not mind spending a bit , is there something which is a must buy?

hollow parcelBOT
gilded sapphireBOT
hybrid breach
drifting hemlock
#

Ngl if i want to even spend i cant since that apparently requires a visa in my country

solar fractal
#

Hi

barren fjord
#

cant get above 10% in ts, is it just me being dumb or is it just a box issue

barren fjord
barren fjord
#

man the substitutes not even being in my box

#

i hate ts 🫩

#

so like should i just make kinda teams that resemble the idea of those teams? just to break through 10% lmao

#

im 14% rn and thats kinda the highest ive been so far

#

well i mean, i am but not atm

#

im just gonna fix up my teams maybe, see if i can just balance em around

zenith osprey
#

Who to select from here?

dim socket
#

on these purple cards which type should i use?

grim hamlet
# solar fractal Hi

bud what happened this week? You let me beat you by like 4s in NC. I figured you weren't going to let that stand lol. Don't tell me lack of marci is getting to you

grim hamlet
#

ah

solar fractal
#

But if you wanna competesmuglucius

grim hamlet
#

nah I'm good lol

solar fractal
#

I’ll make sure to hit peak

barren fjord
#

casual is ur r54 account fully f2p? or did u switch

grim hamlet
#

you used to give me shit when I made comments about not trying for my best possible peak lol

hasty flax
#

Casual ignoring my dma lol

grim hamlet
#

I guess you're over that now and reached your range range is all that matters arc

hasty flax
solar fractal
hybrid breach
hasty flax
barren fjord
#

how da hell are u 1st in ts w a f2p account, thats impressive as fuck

solar fractal
hasty flax
solar fractal
barren fjord
#

am i being played here

solar fractal
#

My r54 is not f2p lmao

barren fjord
#

thats what i thought but im too gullible to people who are higher rank than me

grim hamlet
hybrid breach
grim hamlet
#

actual vip10 f2p, t200 cr

hybrid breach
#

nihi 13/50 t50 cr too Proudssy

solar fractal
#

Kraken guild

cobalt abyss
#

Bunch of lovely people there tho

hybrid breach
olive jewel
cobalt abyss
barren fjord
#

do yall fucj with my burger comps

#

is this w team composition or what? make me top 100 already sheesh

barren fjord
#

i know.

olive jewel
barren fjord
#

u dont have to ruin a mans dreams 🫩

hybrid breach
barren fjord
#

it works trust

hybrid breach
#

mehira has 0 IS it doesnt work in pvp

barren fjord
#

fml

river shuttle
grim hamlet
barren fjord
barren fjord
grim hamlet
#

I mean team 2 is just misha stall ig? there's no dps lol

cobalt abyss
#

Im gonna give it two months till we see cc get t50 nc

barren fjord
#

i put seal there and im praying

grim hamlet
#

oh it really is misha stall

solar fractal
grim hamlet
#

eh ok maybe that's the least concerning team then

barren fjord
hybrid breach
dim socket
#

which one should i select?

hybrid breach
barren fjord
#

yall better watch out when my box improves. My team comps will change up the game!

grim hamlet
barren fjord
#

why is ts so complicated

hybrid breach
#

go pull

#

you have no totem

dim socket
#

ok

grim hamlet
#

you know we always say blues but honestly, I really dont think anyone should ever use totemPlunder

#

its just so absolutely terrible and useless

#

just recycle it and run with the other 2 and an empty slot for blue runs

cobalt abyss
#

I actually agree with that

hybrid breach
#

honestly why dont we just always run triple golds Think seems like you would get better colls that way

#

save the third blue and just upgrade to purple?

grim hamlet
#

yea exactly

barren fjord
#

guys just run triple miracle worker

grim hamlet
#

like that totem gives you two shit runes at the very end. you can't even swap them

hybrid breach
barren fjord
#

every coll now has a cheat death at +4

cobalt abyss
grim hamlet
#

its better as 1/500th of a gold then actually including it in your blue runs lol