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Because it's Shemira who flings spell at you nonstop so you want maximum protection
Surely it's not that hard to 5MP right? It only took main like 2 years, been using double recasted 4MP for like, forever
Alt took way way shorter amount of time to get one
In most situations you can roll at least two red MPs, 2 cards, and single recast
I only have so many chances. And I need to use a miracle worker and get multiple M MPs. Since I can only really card one and recast one
bud I am f2p
Well then "In most situations you can roll at least two red MPs, 1 card, and double recast" 

Sometimes even double recast is worth it when you are 100% sure it will last
we need another injection of recast juice
Maybe anniversary, maybe
Would make sense too, may as well shower gifts and mechanics people desire
I need to recast 5 ero first 
I have a 4M ers and that is at least good enough for most things
I think 4 is overkill and sign of luck I can never get more than 1 on main
But still niche by today's CR standards
Stat stick is nice but then the big players moved onto using bounty or vault for more total score over time
I meant 4M ers storm
Even full attack flight is like niche now for CR
I just sorta assumed thats what peppa meant
Wait oh I thought ERS was ERR 
since thats the thing thats acutally useful
U want 5 to max out Aurelia and Hildwin sister potential
Otherwise for your Aurelia to work the same as others in NC or something you might need full erosion vault
Or go beyond SI40
where does Elthara need that much?
Iunno I just assume more means she hit harder
she needs at least 2M MP in NC for me
Since most people just use the same collection and it's like 90% of what her meta collection damage
If you're talking about stretching stats beyond even say Himmel then probably
You need to think about way way way more things trying to reach top 50 with smaller tree and stuff
For the round that involve Misha, that may even mean bounty DEF instead of flight
the NC comp fully breaks without it for me though. Like 30s without 2 MP
I don't know because she's like, not the meta there 
There should be some chart about effectiveness of stats depending on your own tree and all that, or something, where at X attack > MP, for example
so does the make 8 copies before ascending heroes, not apply in wokes nd hypo/celestials? since they doesnt use fodders
correct
okay thank u
but with a lot of them you want to pull every copy at once
so its kind of a moot point
Celepogean and awakened fuse using itself as copies instead, you need 12 for ascended (14 because you want star for most of them), and 12/15 for awakened
yeah you need more copies in their case, i was js trying to find out if u can ascend them like midway without restrictions on fodders
14/16
not 12/14
Oh 
celepogs are like 4f, need 2 E+ to go from M+ to A
Well have fun, I mean it doesn't hurt to spend another 60000 diamond, F2P can do at least that, yes?

Your diamond count rapidly builds up from eating good in TS
simply have a 4 year old account
Like Jacko 
U should probably build Maetria or something
Wtb a character worth investing in
Invest flower in me
Mae was definitely worth when I built her
she's a woke
well im not at the point where i can start stargazing using diamonds
send flowers to freakyacc pls 
Still, goal dependent, U want more stable top 200? Ambition to top 50? Top 20 TS, 10? 5% CR?
You should be slightly outpacing new woke releases with good placements in ts
Just three copies then, U can easily offer 500TE yes yes?
I just mean responding to me saying I have 1200 SG cards with "build Mae" is a little 
Amazing how even 240b last night could only get you to 4%
Ah
also I have almost enough for Pippa rn but will probably hold till next woke before pulling Pippa or new one
Well then, assuming it costs around 120 to pull three copies, build Maetria, build Pippa, build Estrilda, and walla you're ready to tackle 20
And plenty to spare, maybe pull Selene
@olive jewel I got bored the other day, so I did E8X with 5* on both Estrilda and Fawkes... On an alt
Quite small? Based on CR and NC observations 
what should i buy here
For most people what you did is the correct response, wait until totem refresh every month (or pay 1000 diamond if you need more in a hurry), optional to get dim 'reds' emblem
I will consider Mae if they do enough starzones for me to get a couple more copies
One thing they still haven't tried - MS and GF up simultaneously

What would be a good ghoulish gallery stuff for daimon his popularity thing isn't loading I have him on 3 full HP and 1 defense
Daimon is not used anywhere
There is no reason to build a collection for him
Also don't use the popularity stats
well him and scarlet is like my whole team
can you take a screenshot of your hero box?
Be careful of 'popularity' thing, it's VERY misleading, Daimon is at the top mainly because he's been around for VERY long time compared to more efficient modern meta heroes
in lineup help here or classic chat
In fact, disregard that feature entirely, it will only serve to mislead new players, stick with the reliable tried and true discord pinned info instead
No, post your question related info here, this is the dedicated problem solving channel (and frequent banters)
here
Then here is my box just ignore the name
Antandra fan, but without big Antandra 
=returning
You have two paths going forward really
- If you want to actually compete, and want to be competitive, you want to restart on newest server with a new account (feel free to use old account for various purpose like mentor, and/or merc outlet)
- If you don't mind staying casual, just do what you like really, like look at hero portraits and pick heroes you want to build based on looks, with the diamonds and stuff
did you take a break from the game?
I did but came back 2 weeks ago just went through 300 kings floors and 4-5 chapters
but yeah what kisaka said]
I'm playing casual but daimon is starting to fall off I know this isn't the right channel but is there something you guys recommend I swap him for I do have one last character swap scroll
The thing is that you have to be playing HYPER casual for this account to be worth continuing
i think u should restart, u can get back to where you were in like a week
The only reasonable advice to improve your situation is starting on a new server
I do have another one but I've already hit a bump
did u read the guide? do u have ivan and randle?
I have just base Randle haven't gotten lucky but also have
u might have to restart again and read the guide actually 🥀
set ur wishlist right
=guide
I did like half of it because if I follow the guide fully then I'm not playing the game myself
oh if thats the case yeah just continue doing what ur doing
My wishlist is almost exactly the same other than Vika for Antandra
Selene pretty good early ts, idk about Jacko region tho
The invested scarlet is gonna screw u over a bit early game since ideally it’s Randle in that spot
Like some r54 trailblazer went wawkes and Selene first and is somehow t100
whats the acc name? i wanna follow
I have had her for ages. I have her animated PfP
What do you even not have besides 5% CR frame 



wokes and HB and an invested Kalthin
is there a todolist past beginner for =todolist?
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
- Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
- AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
- Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
Kalthin overrated dude, didn't even bother E60ing him on alt
Even one copy might have been enough
That's why I don't have him
One copy is enough
You just need him to do his ult thing and grab everyone together all the time
And then you crush them with Skylan and Elthara
I have 25 animated hero avatars if I counted correctly
Didn't think about it last night but because of Kalthin I think Zohra had potential as the sub
Oh nevermind she needed ult
@pulsar marlin TS check 
PS: you probably get more luck with profile pic of Peppa Pig
@pulsar marlin Iz dis U
@autumn gull U improved from last round congrats 
I do have a question about two unrelated thing and one about the guide wasn't Estrilda on the guide before what does Mira do exactly I don't get it and isn't the wilder wishlist tank heavy
Regular or awakened Estrilda
Mira does a bit of damage, a little bit of CC, useful for stall teams to buy more time for seal to murder the enemy
Regular at least I hear ago? Wait seal does dmg? I thought it was for healing I have been playing this game wrong
Regular is obsolete except for faction tower
You're not playing wrong, you're reading pets wrong
I've just been doing winged lion for most stuff and if that doesn't cut it Pegasus
Winged lion is more or less obsolete except for current NC meta
I don't know half these words you use
Cut out the later half of sentence
But this is all competitive talk
If you still can't understand 'obsolete' then dictionary is your friend
I do have one last question when do you unlock auto battle I find it stupid that you can't do it early game on classic but you can on companion's?
Around chapter 16 iirc?
21-1
@pulsar marlin Use Peppa pig face gets you to top 50 easier, trust
Guessing game for chat: Who do you think the worst hero I have an animated PfP of is?
There are 2 reasonable answers
Also rename to Peppa pig of course
@olive jewel Lucilla
Na volcano is deadass just chopped as hell
That's very stupid
Our auto battle is a lot better
no Lucilla is a good hero
That blue guy on #treasure-scramble is eating pretty gud, copy his comp or something
Lethos 
Oh yeah him, so forgettable actually
naw I got like 2 copies of him
At least Gimli I mean Ginneas still look badass
No skylan means I can’t copy his comps without throwing harder
One of them is bad but I had to pull trying to get somone else
Just Sion 
this is a big hint
The new rabbit girl? She looks gorgeous tho
Umbriel
Oh that dogshit
needed to finish my Velu when he came out
I skipped him and finished velu during begris
ended up with an A umb
and the other one is like...not very guessable

its a GB
💀
^hint
Ah damnit, I used wrong collection on Fawkes last night, could have secured my % further 
Everytime I see sion typed I think league
is one of the more 'human rights' hero for being good as dragon and not overly expensive to build
Doesn’t he need 40 or can he work at 30960
he needs si40
=guide
sion work as replacement for skylan?
felt

Hell no, he's nowhere near that performance level, you will take a dip in ranking but how far you drop is region dependent
But what else are you going to do? Not building Skylan is a crime
hi martie 
i am more tempted every day
You're too late for that, should have built on release and you would have snowballed so hard that, you can probably get away with not setting teams for some days, and still have no impact on your rank
was guud bbg

i only have lan hild and levi
See, the thing with high rollers is not just gamble like a madman, it's having good instincts and knack for heroes to know when to strike, instead of playing safe all day
It's Tuesday 
tbf kisaka being mean makes me strive to be better than the fools i step on as i climb the ranks
If you want a free luck boost because ranking not getting you what you really want (works for you only), drink more water, especially on a hot summer
bud is there anything new not in the guide rn? was thinking i might do a ch31 poosh acc
That's the spirit, are you just gonna let the scrubs poosh you around and then laugh as they collect more pay than you every time? No, you get stronger, fight harder, and push them off a cliff
Don't think so. Just still the possibility of Fawkes first woke still being tested
over shem
How is it so far like, does Fawkes first end up crushing Shemira enjoyers?
That's the theory
that sounds kinda fun
In terms of arena, I want to see a Fawkes starter pit against Shemira starter
i feel like 1 copy of shem would help tho
Main issue I have seen so far is that his si40 is big for his damage
but you cant really get it with him as first woke
See, I'm a powerful motivator force for those who truly understand my motivations, even if it comes off as mean for those who get you know, filtered out because they can't stomach not being sprinkled in icing sugar
No usage so far only there to enable Pippa getting 30 more IS
got new wilder to 1* havent looked at her since
i see, no use for early game then
Early game is still unknown factor, you really need test babies that purposely build her early
all use so far is getting her oath mark
is that the new power creep?
I ended up making this
I like it, they should like, gate it off so new players are forced to build stuff like TORNE
To get the free boost in power needed for PIPPA
thats very good
nice ashem coll bud
Usable, shame for the green though that's cancer
Probably near bis in that HP boosting round
Is the attack bad? I would assume AShem uses MP?
nah attack is good
No full attack works better for her, she's there to boost your carry
This coll I put onto AShem and Vida
this
Alvida can go for IS
hp is prob better if u dont have a big is coll tho
But HP pretty much nobody can complain because on watch it means a bit more damage
What does IS do?
Make your CC more effective
it boosts ur cc
If you played wow, you notice sometimes enemy resist your spells, IS in this universe, makes it less likely, or remove resist
That’s really good
New dragon not up this week?
It was Kalene btw 
no, only one week since Icariel
It’s up on test Thursday iirc
I’m one copy away from Randle to ascended, he’d be my first ascended. Should I use this on him?
yes
Godamnit I misread Kalene as Kaelon and thought "Holy shit Jacko hiding secrets"

If you had Kaelon you probably 5% CR often
I COULD have had his. I had enough DI
Hold for oddy you must hold
I am
Depends on your RGM goal, if you poosh TS I don't see anyone higher than Skylan, for NC it's 50/50, alt still holding off fine with Kaelon to not have to SI40 Cha, good CR usage
if he sucks I probably go Elthara
Ye cuz I’m pretty sure if our theory is correct oddy is giga broken for cr
Elthara would boost your CR by so much you probably 240+ from Skylan merc
Alt suffered because no E60 Tavriel 
2k DSA
I can merc Elthara a lot of weeks though
But most of them are defective anyway
but I needed the MP coll on Velu too much this week
Surely 2k DSA means something
You tested and 5MP merc worked best?
Could have gotten from me I always have them free 
Yes, it was under 30b with my Velu
like 11b increase by using merc velu
Elthara merc would have been 6b at very very most
Your next collection goal then, take off the recast juice from your original flight and just reapply to new one
And then you would get extra 6b for free, pushing you to like, 6%
has been for a while
恭喜发财 ! 新年快乐 ! 马上有钱 ! 马到成功 ! Wish you year year got fish ! horse arrive work done ! dragon horse sperm god ! One road smooth wind !
5 of anything is like cursed, I wanted IS and wasted many pairs, good thing I figured out workaround to not need them anymore
I read it as dragon horse spam good

Yes, everyone should get their hands on 36+ horse
What the fuck is that cursed ass google translate
I thankfully have a 5M TY core
Welcome to machine translation
thats not mtl, thats literal meaning in english
Gimme I need it 
Lovely no? It's the key investments coming in online at the crucial moments which pooshes you ahead of your peers
They get to stomp on the floor angery 
That’s like translating puns in English, you can’t just do that 
i got it from a chinese forum years ago, away with you
Fiscal? Finance you mean
physical
Blessing star high shine
Even my 3rd grade level ass can see that shits fucked

Wait you're underaged?
No my Chinese is 3rd grade level
Wtf AFK is for 18+ bigboys only, time to ban

Ban Hat as well in the mean time, because it funny
has hat been banned before ?
The irony is I got into his old guild last night
Also if that’s the case that I’m 3rd grade, I’ll be playing afk since I was kindergarten 
I mean 2 year olds playing on iPad is a common sight now
Damn really?
Welcome to the technology generation 
Shit I remember I couldn’t touch a phone til 8th grade
Which one?
my bank doesnt let me do gpay purchases no more, i cant whale
Mochi's Kingdom (old name Coin's something)
lmao it’s so bad
💀
i’m saving up loads of resources rn, and after new hypo drops and NC meta settles down i’m gonna choose what’s worth investing in, but all my TS competition just invested it all so i dropped from almost t50 to barely t100 😭
Wait whyd you even join that guild aint you in racoons
Wanderlust mode
omg i cant skip chapter 1
Companions?
Oh nomad kisaka arc
This man is traumatized
nah i cant play on an old acc tho
Can't play on any account that's not competitive is a thing
=sgprio
Stargazing Priorities:

game is teaching me how to place mirael🥀
Yeah it’s bad 
Learn well bro🙏
Mireal super important for new secret comp in cr

yes until i hit like ch30
then ill retire again
cant you skip that or is this actual full new account?
new acc

why is vika on the wishlist btw?
can i skip her for numisu or is she like needed?
Whatever gets you to ch30 the fastest
naw she's just a mid carry you can use sometimes
numisu better for racing ch30
what should i use my grits on? (2 days left)
right? naroko and the rat should be enough
is it worth to stargaze lavatune?
E60 liberta first or e60 Envy?
=sgprio
Stargazing Priorities:
How do I use Mehira Lib cheese?
This should work
Huh nvm there’s a Keltur
IMO envy
Okkk lol
lib
=companions
A
should i use spice to get reso 12 or focus them on treat 18
what is your pet situation rn?
reso 9, one more pet to get to 12, and owl 14 treat 13
what is your seal at?
18
get reso 12. You really need IC 12 anyway
okay bet thank you
should i 30960 my lysander
do i bother with these or nah
absolutely get the ink yeah
shards are kinda whatever I think
ok
Yeah. I wouldn't card 9f though
okay si30 is worth it tho?
might wait on it
Should I card 9f hild? And also what is hild good for other than zohra burst (no zohra)
hild is a very good PvP hero overall
fits on any burst and a lot of other stuff
Can slot with Envy very well
Okay. Im thinking something like levi hild envy lan velu?
Or is that overkill on the dragons lol
Running alna sion westy, envy levi, ashem sjw wath, and athor elth seal
I guess could slot in watha Jerome tam lys hild panda
if you make a watha team I would put hildwin there
For 7t then go westy lib randle
Ok. He wants to be rook right?
yeah
does this team look good
whats the command for the guide? the long wall of text one
Maybe westy with sion? Or alna sion
I would keep Alna Skylan
Wow ig I really should pull afawkes
oh you're not using Dae. Dae over lys imo
yeah win rate goes up like crazy
could lys fit anywhere else
could maybe have lys t5
i don’t have watha 😔
Oof ok nvm then. Most of the time I'm just trying to find somewhere to fit watha
Im not too pro on what skylan users do lol. Since skylan takes up sion spot
i dropped from 85 to 3% wtf
yeah skylan team kinda cracked
Yo wtf
Lys doesn’t really fit with skylan
get that fawkes e60
also everyone please keep in mind I am mostly just guessing for medium box PvP 
wait wtf
replaced with dae
Damn wucuis being fraud?
always has been 
he really needs that
Did u go pippa over fawkes
I wheled pippa
Oh. Do u have fawkes thooo
okay how do i make this work without maetria or elhara
No wawkes
Si40 sem
Do u suggest i also go pipp
sem?
I hear consensus is after athoran either pip or fawkes
No I whaled pippa, in all situations wawkes is better
I missed wawkes ship so building him was just more expensive
Semenira
ooooooof about that
So 400 te rn I should go fawkes. I just feel waiting until April before pulling is a waste on my resources
I swear that's maetria
these are the other teams im copying i have all these (flora at M) and yes it hurts my soul to use her
sorry im copying teams lol
Why not just go lethara
Ye wait unless you are whaling
when is calc? 
Instead of flora
Already done i think. It ended at noon for me
4d22h
did fawkes kind push Athoran out of top 4
Ohhh second I'm dumb
oh first calc is done i think yeah
If no Mae the zohra team really wants Lysander and si40 sem
Wish me luck igg
oh geez 97th 
You just want zohra to kill everyone instead of Mae
Gonna pull
hmmm i have lys but no seren, and only 250 sg and 85k diamonds
How fat is ur lys
30930
Yo ur so lucky my bluestacks takes 5 minutes to load lol
Uh I think it works with e60 lys
i hvae like 20k red cores i can 60 him
Okok why tho
but can i put someone else for seren? melion or something?
I swear fawkes is clear choice
Ur like 3 copies off
You can swap for wawkes like what I’m doing
For watha?
Ye
i pulled fawkes to A with like 380 TE or sum
Lemme check the sub rq
Is it worth tho? Doesn't that waste si40
what a noouuub
bro is riding the line
Yikes volcano got everyone down
im number 100 dawg i am the line
Because no skylan and no mae
luckyyy
But that’s just ridiculous lol
get on my lvl bud frfr
Same for r511
They do know oddy is coming right
40960 melion work you think?
mood in r42 every comp i try to copy
whats the di situation looking like?
Melion kaeleon and emi are the subs
praying on Oddy's upfall 
You really need zohra to just one shot everything without Mae 
Please let the Elthara skip pay off
If 2k DSA doesn’t save this man it’s over
If I gave sion 2k DSA he will fucking wipe everything
ill be in the mid 500's with the 84 or whatever DI and i might just test my luck if hes broken
and then maybbbeee whel a little for the last copies
well see idk
Ima just whale him if he’s giga broken
Cuz if he’s the next skylan ima just whale him 
how does one actually whale HB? surely its not just the draconic supplies in the temple
They have ships
oh trueeee
If you build off ships it’s like 600-700 dollars
so surely if i am pulling like 550 or so DI i only have to spend 1-200

Idk man if you get fucked by rng ur gonna be FUCKED
true chat
=rift
Aint that life in general?
and that precisely is why i will be full sending
Worth choice summoning for icariel?
Only if you are trying to be super competitive in RGMs
Is the 7% atk for everyone or is it just for her
is that the new 4f? how does it work?
is she even seeing use in RGM?
no
And is it gonna be permanent?
just her
but it also gives you an oath level
Ohh
yeah i just did ashems mark
Just her
i wonder if thats why i tanked so hard at the end of TS first calc bc i didnt have the second upgrade, or did we just get enough to do the second at reset today?
Seeing her in some TS usage
Is arena rgm? Like ts nc and cr?
Holy fk
Trial is PvE like TR CR NC. Arena is PvP like TS LC HoE
Oh that’s percentages too?
Might just have to then
And worth exchanging 4k diamond for the ink too? What about the fragments?
ATP this ain’t even charm this just wippa stall 
ink, absolutely
shards are kinda whatever I think?
hard to say
Ima get ashem wippa and westie’s oath mark
there will be plenty of shards over time from heroes
get them all if you can build Ica
Are ink used to unlock the oath?
Ima skip icariel oath unless it’s like it gives +1.8% again
yes
it gives a level
idk what that level will do tho
Oh hell na 
What does level 4 give
cries in no wippa
shouldve built her over afawkes just for this tbh
I have no Pippaw
wait how u level 3
but have the other 3 now
Should I si30 saitama next once I get him tmr or is there anyone else higher prio
Icariel
oh im stupid dont mind me, im also level 3
I like day 2 A1ed her

wait is dim box open tomorrow?
yayaya
SI
Yeah
yes
gimme my tatsu to never be used
dim tower WHEN LILITH
I can test my 157 is wippa 
the Alvida stocks will drop massively tmr
People been asking that since I started 
Not 5 is tho 
I wonder what the teams would be
it would be kinda tough to make 5 comps with just dims i guess but
towers cap at 3t
oh fuck thats right
celepog at 2
It prob caps at 2
yeah gimme my 2 team dim tower NOW
shall seal or a marci team
Feel like sjw is kind of bad in pve. Not like we ever saw him on camp teams

Sjw lowkey goated as fuck for pve
Marci is definitely a comp
da vinki prob would work well in a shalltear seal comp
Not even lowkey he straight up is involved in a lot of mid game clears
Rem Shuna and Lai Marci probably
Cuz of the crazy ass e60
Rem
Bedo would goated
Sure but can he kill at deficit
Then he starts chaining together and snowballs
Up to 400 at 209 e60
bring that boy ainz back
Ainz was so fun when he was good. Luckily he was basically 1:1 replaced with abel
smh my head imagine counting deficit.... just push until pcapped
yeah i wish i took the game seriously when he came out, when i restarted and took it seriosuly he was already pcrept
Pippa or fawkes
I feel like sjw does end up being a team but mostly cause of cha. Id guess she can kill at deficit and then sjw cleans up. And they both want your best protection
Idk how Marci works without the good protection though
And she's probably better
Not for casual. No marci so he'd have to make him work 
(it's not actually funny, it's pretty messed up what they're doing with dims)
surely they would need to bring back garrison to make a dim tower
Further evidence it's not coming ig

I'm finally deep enough in camp that rando people I am copying are using tasi cheese
oh wow that means youve made it
JD would be proud
I'm finally deep enough in camp that e mehira stops working 
Or at least stops working with the book
Mine is L and still working
Is coll though right?
usually still book
its one of the more RNG comps yeah
Yeah nc is just permanently cooked as fuck
Well not permanently. Eventually she'll surely get crept
Probably around when they add her to garrison
by a new dim that some people will lack 
Even with r9 I don’t think new players can compete at all
Currently di for r8 is 3:10
aaaaand we are capped in camp again
That’s a fucked ass clear for new players
Did Suavere's KT guide ever get put somewhere here? 
i still havent 40'd my marci i should probably do that
oh really? i thought her 40 was important, alright W
it will improve her but not enough to be worth
She works fine at 309 e60
I 40ed her 
she was already at 35 though, wasn't far too go
once saitama only needed 30 and tatsu turned out to be a dead fish I went for it
I 40ed lib for the same reason 
my r2 clear was 30s, i have other rounds that are much worse so def not a big concern of mine rn i think
"already at 35" 
Doesn’t sai work at 20 as well
yea she was there for a while
Ye my r2 is like 31 seconds with lys
I hope so cause I'm kind of low on dimblems right now lol
I definitely plan to try it
I managed to pull together 300 dimblems
I did at one point
I think I just full send on him
and then marci ate them for lunch
I have like 820, probably around 900 when the new guy drops
I have 600, probably around 700 when new guy drops
JD I tasi cheesed and got capped again praise me 
but I have this suspicion that gen 5 wokes and gen 2 HBs are going to reset the status quo for what good heroes are

op op
where does gen2 begin lol
there's only one faction
uh
gen 4 wokes were so good though
we need som medium wokes
2024
yea weve had a lot of htem
are we on gen 3 HB 
let's just call them 2026 HBs 
yeah the recent trend is every new expensive hero is very impactful, if not downright game breaking
I don't see them slowing down from that for the rest of 2026
i mean its worse then that
the recent trend is every new hero not only needs full invest but also needs a coll specific to them you wouldn't have otherwise
and benefits from every red stat significantly
to the point that at the rate we are pushing fawkes first prio, by the time we actually get him passed as best starter woke, we might already have a better one

Gwyn Hildwin Lan Sky -> Hae Levi Kae Elthara -> Oddy?
Seeing how oddy is uncapped in like 3 separate boosts
maybe those are gens?
I feel like we are overhyping oddy
I'm not 
no way he is actually like 3-5k DSA autos right
He’s at the very least a good defense buffer
Just waiting
oh yeah you are right
As a 9f it’s pretty fucking good
like definitely better than misha and whatever else
hmm so far oddy doesn't seem like he needs anything
maybe atk coll?
He’s like 1.1k DSA with infinitely scaling DSA bonus damage and normal attack bonus damage
Prob pp coll to cap out on dsa reduction
since he's fort and fort has low atk (especially in NC), so if he is a carry, we might have to stack him or be forced to strip eveyrone else
which is a coll we don't have for tank lol. but if that's all then its not too bad yea
If he truly stacks infinitely he might just out scale cr
what would we even use
part of his kit scales on pp, idk if we care
The only part that scales off pp is his DSA reduction which caps at like 80 pp
tank colls are an enigma to me
lowers DSR based on PP. Caps out at 150 PP
Soul bind
bondage watch horn rose

He’s using horn for pvp
yeah
And either rose or bondage for pve or something
surely we don't need 7 cheat deaths or something ridiculous right
he has 5 lol
6
that would be such a meme
The initial one doesn’t count
I mean go figure when you slap too big of a number in the cheat deaths department
I mean that would be pretty tragic lol
fawkes is not remotely limited to seal
Unless I’m reading it wrong
I feel like he might replace wuci
people use him all over and he's great
yeah that's true
if ody starts in seal that's cooked
I've been running fawkes in alvida pony
Nvm it’s 5
well fawkes started in seal
it's just a good baseline
I mean if you have 6 cheat deaths you're at least good in seal lol
skylan is pretty good in seal
no actually
we'll have to see
but there's no listed invincibility period
so 5 or 6 cheat deaths might disappear faster then addy would
skylan turns into an untargetable ball o lighting or something for a couple seconds so 3 goes significantly further then 5 without any kind of invul period
The way his skill 3 is worded is so weird
Cuz it doesn’t state that kinetic energy itself has a cap
But the buffs on e30 has a cap so like does he stack infinitely or na
yea no idea there lol
At the very least he has dae 40 as his e60 and 3f
For existing 68% damage reduction is really strong no?
With some cheat deaths as well
idk
He might just replace wucuis lowkey
lot of stuff ignores that I think
ers and dragonspeak damage for instance don't care about DR I don't think
He has the scaling potential and protects his allies decently well
neither does true damage but there's not a lot of that
True damage is just shalltear+cha for now right
Ig we wait and see
If he stacks infinitely im whaling him
Cuz that’s just an overlooked ass mechanic
pippa goated pve
Pippa is lowkey pretty good in charm
Pippa or fawkes?
She lowers rng by a lot cuz 4 cheat deaths
How’s ur nc and ts
in charm? that feels criminal lol
she just like eviscerates them
pretty sure jd said he benched envy for her cause she was better at dpsing at deficit
Bud charm is just that fraudulent
Like I said it isn’t even charm it’s just wippa stall now
Also cuz I’m only at a 360 deficit so like I’m not in trying times yet
honestly charm had zero issues for me until now in 62 when they got e60
and even then I kind of didn't try much lol. Snap benched it and I didn't feel like cooking so I did too
as a new player, should i be saving my common scrolls for some future event? i started last night
=40960
Hello @paper coral,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
=sgprio
Stargazing Priorities:
Who should I be pushing after Seal? I saw the guide and it's not super clear. I'm doing treat, owl, and ice crown as my lure targets.
=todolist
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
- Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
- AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
- Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
For some reason my red engraving income is better than e30 income
=guide
Where do I get more e30s
=campaign
Hi peeps
you are buying from store? Resetting bounty board?


You can reset it ?
I hope that question is about the bounty board lol
if you haven't been resetting the store...

top left. 50 dias and you reroll every quest you didn't already start. So you start all the good rewards and then refresh the rest
Ooohhhh
though rule of thumb is don't bother until your bounty board is level 8
true
God damn it lol
how long does that take?
It’s 8
yea you should do it then
its not the end of hte world if you haven't but it helps
pick the stuff you want, refresh the others
also engraving shards are still not super common there
@charred jetty actually made an app or something to help you decide
What is the awakened priority
so your first question it won't change a ton
=te
Woke Prios and TE income:
https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
doesn't actually start with envy
Don’t you reroll twice a day for the shop ? @grim hamlet
yes
get all the staves
and then quick buy hte other stuff but the reason to refresh is the staves
I add cores in when I get low. like right now
I did that sometimes before staves
pre-reso18 baits are kind of a good buy. but its a tough sell
but I have enough cores and staves are kind expensive
I used to be a big fan but I finished reso 18 before GG came out
a lot easier to justify
yea but you still need them badly
idk I wouldn't do it from the start
but once you start to get a comfy dia supply it starts to look better. and its not bad
Just the e30s I have everything else
literally everything else is fine just my e30 is so bad
7t?
7 team for TS

she's very good
I will refrain from saying the thing I said about her a few weeks ago that got accidentally auto modded 
I wish I was in your guild mine sucks
our casual branch seems to have space
Welcome back (I havent returned) 
nem
Hi bud

Ill check
hope you're well bud 
Shes so [redacted] I wish I could [redacted] on her [redacted]
My wrist hurts, my back hurts, I'm tired and I'm going out in a couple hours with the gf
In other words, I just finished work and ready to go home 
reading "gf" in this server just makes me feel bad about bad mode 
Sorry I'll say Mrs. Nem next time
I'm about to have a tea 
yeah. one mug 
What goes in dry, comes out wet and gets stronger the longer its in?

U were definitely thinking about something else, got westy on ur mind? 
I'm like 95% sure ur not banned from TS, u can join the discord and send an application 
Where at ? Is there a guild ID or something
Oh look, zekon deleted his main and his alt, so we were right about his alt
Tangledspore, pretty sure that's the flex invite too
okay
havent seen cheetobean in a min
He went inactive a while ago
good riddance 
K I’ll apply in one hour lol
Given he had a cult following I think it was because he couldn't keep up the persona 

Chop chop
okay lmfao
I’m not doing anything I’m just working :/ desk job is gross
pays a decent amount ig
That pfp tho
Sandy is a baddddieee ikr
I clicked on his profile to check our mutual servers
I regret doing so
I love this emote, its one of my favorites
Hows it going
do discord usernames have room for (Ch76 DeathEvilGodExplosionDestruction Enthusiast) ?
not bad bud
also have to be a booster or CS/Mod 
Glad to hear it
hope you're well 

@olive jewel how do I get purple name I want to be speshul
mostly by helping people out a bunch and then having other CS quit
If I ask JD really nicely will he make me purple?
probably not 
🥹
Its an invite only role, and they only invite when they have open spaces 
Yeah but there’s so many defunct CS that there has to be extra spots
That hurts me when u say that bud
Your words cut deeper than knives
rude 
Get in line
Is he wrong tho…
The truth hurts bud

I didn't say it wasn't true
They should remove some purple roles to make space
But yeah cs is supposed to be 2-3 active people
Just not you nem
Jacko, cc, snap etc
There 10 inactive cs 
cc is very active as well lmao
^^
Oh thats correct
Dubbbsy kinda active but quit so
I love dubbs, but he did quit
Yeah this was my situation too lmao
he usually helps whenever the other cs are not around or sleeping
There's also @winter halo
There's a point where ur knowledge gets powercrept
@winter halo
He'll never lose cs









