#classic-questions

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pulsar marlin
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Isn’t this round velu some 5 mp bullshit

oak stirrup
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Because it's Shemira who flings spell at you nonstop so you want maximum protection

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Surely it's not that hard to 5MP right? It only took main like 2 years, been using double recasted 4MP for like, forever

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Alt took way way shorter amount of time to get one

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In most situations you can roll at least two red MPs, 2 cards, and single recast

olive jewel
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I only have so many chances. And I need to use a miracle worker and get multiple M MPs. Since I can only really card one and recast one

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bud I am f2p

oak stirrup
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Well then "In most situations you can roll at least two red MPs, 1 card, and double recast" Woorspite

olive jewel
oak stirrup
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Sometimes even double recast is worth it when you are 100% sure it will last

olive jewel
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we need another injection of recast juice

oak stirrup
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Maybe anniversary, maybe

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Would make sense too, may as well shower gifts and mechanics people desire

pulsar marlin
olive jewel
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I have a 4M ers and that is at least good enough for most things

oak stirrup
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I think 4 is overkill and sign of luck I can never get more than 1 on main

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But still niche by today's CR standards

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Stat stick is nice but then the big players moved onto using bounty or vault for more total score over time

olive jewel
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I meant 4M ers storm

oak stirrup
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Even full attack flight is like niche now for CR

olive jewel
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I just sorta assumed thats what peppa meant

oak stirrup
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Wait oh I thought ERS was ERR Run

olive jewel
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since thats the thing thats acutally useful

oak stirrup
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U want 5 to max out Aurelia and Hildwin sister potential

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Otherwise for your Aurelia to work the same as others in NC or something you might need full erosion vault

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Or go beyond SI40

olive jewel
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where does Elthara need that much?

oak stirrup
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Iunno I just assume more means she hit harder

olive jewel
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she needs at least 2M MP in NC for me

oak stirrup
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Since most people just use the same collection and it's like 90% of what her meta collection damage

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If you're talking about stretching stats beyond even say Himmel then probably

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You need to think about way way way more things trying to reach top 50 with smaller tree and stuff

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For the round that involve Misha, that may even mean bounty DEF instead of flight

olive jewel
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the NC comp fully breaks without it for me though. Like 30s without 2 MP

oak stirrup
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I don't know because she's like, not the meta there Sip

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There should be some chart about effectiveness of stats depending on your own tree and all that, or something, where at X attack > MP, for example

elfin gulch
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so does the make 8 copies before ascending heroes, not apply in wokes nd hypo/celestials? since they doesnt use fodders

olive jewel
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correct

elfin gulch
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okay thank u

olive jewel
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but with a lot of them you want to pull every copy at once

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so its kind of a moot point

oak stirrup
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Celepogean and awakened fuse using itself as copies instead, you need 12 for ascended (14 because you want star for most of them), and 12/15 for awakened

elfin gulch
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yeah you need more copies in their case, i was js trying to find out if u can ascend them like midway without restrictions on fodders

oak stirrup
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Oh Woorspite

olive jewel
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celepogs are like 4f, need 2 E+ to go from M+ to A

oak stirrup
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Well have fun, I mean it doesn't hurt to spend another 60000 diamond, F2P can do at least that, yes?

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Your diamond count rapidly builds up from eating good in TS

olive jewel
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simply have a 4 year old account

oak stirrup
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Like Jacko Nozomeme

olive jewel
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then you dont spend any diamonds on SG anymore

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I have 1200 SG cards Snowpey

oak stirrup
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U should probably build Maetria or something

velvet jetty
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Wtb a character worth investing in

oak stirrup
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Invest flower in me

velvet jetty
olive jewel
elfin gulch
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well im not at the point where i can start stargazing using diamonds

olive jewel
oak stirrup
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Still, goal dependent, U want more stable top 200? Ambition to top 50? Top 20 TS, 10? 5% CR?

velvet jetty
oak stirrup
olive jewel
oak stirrup
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Amazing how even 240b last night could only get you to 4%

olive jewel
oak stirrup
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Well then, assuming it costs around 120 to pull three copies, build Maetria, build Pippa, build Estrilda, and walla you're ready to tackle 20

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And plenty to spare, maybe pull Selene

olive jewel
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I have WEst KatMafs

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How smol you think my acc is

oak stirrup
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@olive jewel I got bored the other day, so I did E8X with 5* on both Estrilda and Fawkes... On an alt

oak stirrup
elfin gulch
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what should i buy here

oak stirrup
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For most people what you did is the correct response, wait until totem refresh every month (or pay 1000 diamond if you need more in a hurry), optional to get dim 'reds' emblem

olive jewel
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I will consider Mae if they do enough starzones for me to get a couple more copies

oak stirrup
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One thing they still haven't tried - MS and GF up simultaneously

olive jewel
vagrant dagger
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What would be a good ghoulish gallery stuff for daimon his popularity thing isn't loading I have him on 3 full HP and 1 defense

olive jewel
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Daimon is not used anywhere

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There is no reason to build a collection for him

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Also don't use the popularity stats

vagrant dagger
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well him and scarlet is like my whole team

olive jewel
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can you take a screenshot of your hero box?

oak stirrup
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Be careful of 'popularity' thing, it's VERY misleading, Daimon is at the top mainly because he's been around for VERY long time compared to more efficient modern meta heroes

vagrant dagger
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in lineup help here or classic chat

oak stirrup
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In fact, disregard that feature entirely, it will only serve to mislead new players, stick with the reliable tried and true discord pinned info instead

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No, post your question related info here, this is the dedicated problem solving channel (and frequent banters)

olive jewel
vagrant dagger
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Then here is my box just ignore the name

oak stirrup
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Antandra fan, but without big Antandra Sip

high wigeon
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Jealous of ur gold

olive jewel
oak stirrup
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You have two paths going forward really

  • If you want to actually compete, and want to be competitive, you want to restart on newest server with a new account (feel free to use old account for various purpose like mentor, and/or merc outlet)
  • If you don't mind staying casual, just do what you like really, like look at hero portraits and pick heroes you want to build based on looks, with the diamonds and stuff
torpid seal
vagrant dagger
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I did but came back 2 weeks ago just went through 300 kings floors and 4-5 chapters

torpid seal
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but yeah what kisaka said]

vagrant dagger
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I'm playing casual but daimon is starting to fall off I know this isn't the right channel but is there something you guys recommend I swap him for I do have one last character swap scroll

olive jewel
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The thing is that you have to be playing HYPER casual for this account to be worth continuing

torpid seal
olive jewel
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The only reasonable advice to improve your situation is starting on a new server

vagrant dagger
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I do have another one but I've already hit a bump

torpid seal
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did u read the guide? do u have ivan and randle?

vagrant dagger
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I have just base Randle haven't gotten lucky but also have

torpid seal
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u might have to restart again and read the guide actually 🥀

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set ur wishlist right

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=guide

vagrant dagger
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I did like half of it because if I follow the guide fully then I'm not playing the game myself

torpid seal
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oh if thats the case yeah just continue doing what ur doing

vagrant dagger
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My wishlist is almost exactly the same other than Vika for Antandra

pulsar marlin
high wigeon
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The invested scarlet is gonna screw u over a bit early game since ideally it’s Randle in that spot

pulsar marlin
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Like some r54 trailblazer went wawkes and Selene first and is somehow t100

torpid seal
olive jewel
oak stirrup
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What do you even not have besides 5% CR frame Rakuhmm

olive jewel
olive jewel
amber cloud
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is there a todolist past beginner for =todolist?

gilded sapphireBOT
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Beginner TODO-List

  1. Read and follow =wishlist
  2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
  3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
  4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
  5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
  6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
  7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
  8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
  9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
  10. AFK
  11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
  12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
  13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn grave

oak stirrup
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Even one copy might have been enough

olive jewel
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One copy is enough

oak stirrup
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You just need him to do his ult thing and grab everyone together all the time

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And then you crush them with Skylan and Elthara

olive jewel
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I have 25 animated hero avatars if I counted correctly

oak stirrup
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Didn't think about it last night but because of Kalthin I think Zohra had potential as the sub

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Oh nevermind she needed ult

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@pulsar marlin TS check tidussnout

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PS: you probably get more luck with profile pic of Peppa Pig

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@pulsar marlin Iz dis U

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@autumn gull U improved from last round congrats klapz

vagrant dagger
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I do have a question about two unrelated thing and one about the guide wasn't Estrilda on the guide before what does Mira do exactly I don't get it and isn't the wilder wishlist tank heavy

oak stirrup
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Regular or awakened Estrilda

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Mira does a bit of damage, a little bit of CC, useful for stall teams to buy more time for seal to murder the enemy

vagrant dagger
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Regular at least I hear ago? Wait seal does dmg? I thought it was for healing I have been playing this game wrong

oak stirrup
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Regular is obsolete except for faction tower

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You're not playing wrong, you're reading pets wrong

vagrant dagger
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I've just been doing winged lion for most stuff and if that doesn't cut it Pegasus

oak stirrup
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Winged lion is more or less obsolete except for current NC meta

vagrant dagger
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I don't know half these words you use

oak stirrup
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Cut out the later half of sentence

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But this is all competitive talk

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If you still can't understand 'obsolete' then dictionary is your friend

vagrant dagger
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I do have one last question when do you unlock auto battle I find it stupid that you can't do it early game on classic but you can on companion's?

pulsar marlin
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Im 3 spots above grumble

river shuttle
oak stirrup
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@pulsar marlin Use Peppa pig face gets you to top 50 easier, trust

olive jewel
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Guessing game for chat: Who do you think the worst hero I have an animated PfP of is?

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There are 2 reasonable answers

oak stirrup
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Also rename to Peppa pig of course

@olive jewel Lucilla

pulsar marlin
vagrant dagger
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That's very stupid

pulsar marlin
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Our auto battle is a lot better

olive jewel
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no Lucilla is a good hero

oak stirrup
oak stirrup
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Oh yeah him, so forgettable actually

olive jewel
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naw I got like 2 copies of him

oak stirrup
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At least Gimli I mean Ginneas still look badass

pulsar marlin
olive jewel
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One of them is bad but I had to pull trying to get somone else

oak stirrup
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Just Sion Run

olive jewel
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this is a big hint

oak stirrup
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The new rabbit girl? She looks gorgeous tho

olive jewel
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Umbriel

pulsar marlin
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Oh that dogshit

olive jewel
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needed to finish my Velu when he came out

pulsar marlin
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I skipped him and finished velu during begris

olive jewel
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ended up with an A umb

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and the other one is like...not very guessable

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its a GB

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AngryDog 💀

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^hint

oak stirrup
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Ah damnit, I used wrong collection on Fawkes last night, could have secured my % further Frog_Derp

high wigeon
oak stirrup
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Sion is one of the more 'human rights' hero for being good as dragon and not overly expensive to build

high wigeon
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Doesn’t he need 40 or can he work at 30960

olive jewel
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he needs si40

wraith fjord
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=guide

dapper gate
dapper gate
autumn river
oak stirrup
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Hell no, he's nowhere near that performance level, you will take a dip in ranking but how far you drop is region dependent

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But what else are you going to do? Not building Skylan is a crime

olive jewel
dapper gate
oak stirrup
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You're too late for that, should have built on release and you would have snowballed so hard that, you can probably get away with not setting teams for some days, and still have no impact on your rank

autumn river
dapper gate
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i only have lan hild and levi

olive jewel
oak stirrup
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See, the thing with high rollers is not just gamble like a madman, it's having good instincts and knack for heroes to know when to strike, instead of playing safe all day

oak stirrup
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It's Tuesday wtfisthis

dapper gate
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tbf kisaka being mean makes me strive to be better than the fools i step on as i climb the ranks

oak stirrup
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If you want a free luck boost because ranking not getting you what you really want (works for you only), drink more water, especially on a hot summer

autumn river
oak stirrup
olive jewel
oak stirrup
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How is it so far like, does Fawkes first end up crushing Shemira enjoyers?

olive jewel
autumn river
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that sounds kinda fun

oak stirrup
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In terms of arena, I want to see a Fawkes starter pit against Shemira starter

autumn river
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i feel like 1 copy of shem would help tho

olive jewel
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but you cant really get it with him as first woke

oak stirrup
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See, I'm a powerful motivator force for those who truly understand my motivations, even if it comes off as mean for those who get you know, filtered out because they can't stomach not being sprinkled in icing sugar

autumn river
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hows the new 4f?

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we got a wilder right?

oak stirrup
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No usage so far only there to enable Pippa getting 30 more IS

dapper gate
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got new wilder to 1* havent looked at her since

autumn river
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i see, no use for early game then

oak stirrup
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Early game is still unknown factor, you really need test babies that purposely build her early

olive jewel
autumn river
olive jewel
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yeah

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but its super untouchable early game it seems

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like a new tree

timber vortex
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I ended up making this

oak stirrup
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I like it, they should like, gate it off so new players are forced to build stuff like TORNE

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To get the free boost in power needed for PIPPA

olive jewel
autumn river
oak stirrup
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Usable, shame for the green though that's cancer

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Probably near bis in that HP boosting round

timber vortex
autumn river
oak stirrup
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No full attack works better for her, she's there to boost your carry

timber vortex
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This coll I put onto AShem and Vida

oak stirrup
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Alvida can go for IS

autumn river
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hp is prob better if u dont have a big is coll tho

oak stirrup
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But HP pretty much nobody can complain because on watch it means a bit more damage

timber vortex
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What does IS do?

oak stirrup
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Make your CC more effective

autumn river
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it boosts ur cc

oak stirrup
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If you played wow, you notice sometimes enemy resist your spells, IS in this universe, makes it less likely, or remove resist

pulsar marlin
oak stirrup
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New dragon not up this week?

olive jewel
olive jewel
pulsar marlin
supple jewel
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I’m one copy away from Randle to ascended, he’d be my first ascended. Should I use this on him?

oak stirrup
olive jewel
oak stirrup
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If you had Kaelon you probably 5% CR often

olive jewel
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I COULD have had his. I had enough DI

pulsar marlin
olive jewel
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I am

oak stirrup
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Depends on your RGM goal, if you poosh TS I don't see anyone higher than Skylan, for NC it's 50/50, alt still holding off fine with Kaelon to not have to SI40 Cha, good CR usage

olive jewel
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if he sucks I probably go Elthara

pulsar marlin
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Ye cuz I’m pretty sure if our theory is correct oddy is giga broken for cr

oak stirrup
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Elthara would boost your CR by so much you probably 240+ from Skylan merc

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Alt suffered because no E60 Tavriel lallies

pulsar marlin
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2k DSA

olive jewel
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I can merc Elthara a lot of weeks though

oak stirrup
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But most of them are defective anyway

olive jewel
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but I needed the MP coll on Velu too much this week

pulsar marlin
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Surely 2k DSA means something

oak stirrup
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You tested and 5MP merc worked best?

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Could have gotten from me I always have them free solisemelon

olive jewel
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like 11b increase by using merc velu

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Elthara merc would have been 6b at very very most

oak stirrup
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Your next collection goal then, take off the recast juice from your original flight and just reapply to new one

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And then you would get extra 6b for free, pushing you to like, 6%

vivid wolf
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恭喜发财 ! 新年快乐 ! 马上有钱 ! 马到成功 ! Wish you year year got fish ! horse arrive work done ! dragon horse sperm god ! One road smooth wind !

oak stirrup
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5 of anything is like cursed, I wanted IS and wasted many pairs, good thing I figured out workaround to not need them anymore

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I read it as dragon horse spam good

vivid wolf
oak stirrup
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Yes, everyone should get their hands on 36+ horse

pulsar marlin
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What the fuck is that cursed ass google translate

olive jewel
oak stirrup
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Welcome to machine translation

vivid wolf
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thats not mtl, thats literal meaning in english

pulsar marlin
oak stirrup
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They get to stomp on the floor angery angeryBOYE

pulsar marlin
vivid wolf
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i got it from a chinese forum years ago, away with you

oak stirrup
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Fiscal? Finance you mean

vivid wolf
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physical

oak stirrup
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Blessing star high shine

pulsar marlin
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Even my 3rd grade level ass can see that shits fucked

vivid wolf
oak stirrup
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Wait you're underaged?

pulsar marlin
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No my Chinese is 3rd grade level

oak stirrup
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Wtf AFK is for 18+ bigboys only, time to ban

vivid wolf
oak stirrup
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Ban Hat as well in the mean time, because it funny

vivid wolf
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has hat been banned before ?

oak stirrup
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The irony is I got into his old guild last night

pulsar marlin
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Also if that’s the case that I’m 3rd grade, I’ll be playing afk since I was kindergarten tidussnout

oak stirrup
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I mean 2 year olds playing on iPad is a common sight now

pulsar marlin
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Damn really?

oak stirrup
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Welcome to the technology generation pepeOld

pulsar marlin
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Shit I remember I couldn’t touch a phone til 8th grade

turbid spade
vivid wolf
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my bank doesnt let me do gpay purchases no more, i cant whale

oak stirrup
turbid spade
autumn gull
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i’m saving up loads of resources rn, and after new hypo drops and NC meta settles down i’m gonna choose what’s worth investing in, but all my TS competition just invested it all so i dropped from almost t50 to barely t100 😭

turbid spade
oak stirrup
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Wanderlust mode

autumn river
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omg i cant skip chapter 1Despairge

oak stirrup
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Companions?

turbid spade
turbid spade
autumn river
oak stirrup
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Can't play on any account that's not competitive is a thing

timber vortex
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=sgprio

gilded sapphireBOT
willow bison
autumn river
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game is teaching me how to place mirael🥀

turbid spade
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Mireal super important for new secret comp in cr

autumn river
turbid spade
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Hes been retired to long

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Is he coming out of retirement?

autumn river
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then ill retire again

olive jewel
olive jewel
autumn river
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why is vika on the wishlist btw?

autumn river
turbid spade
olive jewel
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numisu better for racing ch30

bold igloo
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what should i use my grits on? (2 days left)

autumn river
supple barn
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is it worth to stargaze lavatune?

polar grail
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E60 liberta first or e60 Envy?

autumn river
gilded sapphireBOT
timber vortex
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How do I use Mehira Lib cheese?

pulsar marlin
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Huh nvm there’s a Keltur

polar grail
pulsar marlin
polar grail
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Okkk lol

vivid wolf
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lib

quiet folio
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=companions

quiet folio
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A

queen edge
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should i use spice to get reso 12 or focus them on treat 18

olive jewel
queen edge
olive jewel
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what is your seal at?

queen edge
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18

olive jewel
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get reso 12. You really need IC 12 anyway

queen edge
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okay bet thank you

queen edge
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should i 30960 my lysander

elfin gulch
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do i bother with these or nah

olive jewel
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shards are kinda whatever I think

elfin gulch
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ok

olive jewel
queen edge
olive jewel
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might wait on it

timber cedar
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Should I card 9f hild? And also what is hild good for other than zohra burst (no zohra)

olive jewel
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hild is a very good PvP hero overall

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fits on any burst and a lot of other stuff

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Can slot with Envy very well

timber cedar
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Okay. Im thinking something like levi hild envy lan velu?

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Or is that overkill on the dragons lol

olive jewel
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that sounds good

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might be overkill depends on your box

timber cedar
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I guess could slot in watha Jerome tam lys hild panda

olive jewel
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if you make a watha team I would put hildwin there

timber cedar
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For 7t then go westy lib randle

timber cedar
olive jewel
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yeah

timber cedar
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Ok thanks *i will do that and see *if it nets me a t100

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Typos are killing me

queen edge
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does this team look good

boreal compass
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whats the command for the guide? the long wall of text one

olive jewel
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lys seems odd there

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not terrible just a little odd

queen edge
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my team 5 is kinda terrible

timber cedar
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Maybe westy with sion? Or alna sion

olive jewel
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I would keep Alna Skylan

timber cedar
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Wow ig I really should pull afawkes

olive jewel
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oh you're not using Dae. Dae over lys imo

queen edge
queen edge
timber cedar
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Maybe watha but no 7t yet.

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Could run something like sion watha lys if u have wath

olive jewel
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could maybe have lys t5

queen edge
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i don’t have watha 😔

timber cedar
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Oof ok nvm then. Most of the time I'm just trying to find somewhere to fit watha

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Im not too pro on what skylan users do lol. Since skylan takes up sion spot

dapper gate
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i dropped from 85 to 3% wtf

queen edge
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yeah skylan team kinda cracked

timber cedar
dapper gate
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need to fix these teams apparently

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no skylan maetria is killing me

pulsar marlin
queen edge
olive jewel
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also everyone please keep in mind I am mostly just guessing for medium box PvP KatMafs

dapper gate
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wait wtf

queen edge
pulsar marlin
olive jewel
dapper gate
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wait wtf my fawkes isnt 60

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he is now

olive jewel
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DeathEvilGodExplosionDestruction he really needs that

pulsar marlin
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Barely t100 somehow

timber cedar
pulsar marlin
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I wheled pippa

timber cedar
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Oh. Do u have fawkes thooo

dapper gate
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okay how do i make this work without maetria or elhara

pulsar marlin
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No wawkes

pulsar marlin
timber cedar
dapper gate
timber cedar
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I hear consensus is after athoran either pip or fawkes

pulsar marlin
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I missed wawkes ship so building him was just more expensive

pulsar marlin
dapper gate
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ooooooof about that

timber cedar
timber cedar
dapper gate
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these are the other teams im copying i have all these (flora at M) and yes it hurts my soul to use her

dapper gate
timber cedar
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Why not just go lethara

pulsar marlin
olive jewel
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when is calc? KatMafs

timber cedar
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Instead of flora

timber cedar
dapper gate
queen edge
#

did fawkes kind push Athoran out of top 4

timber cedar
#

Ohhh second I'm dumb

dapper gate
#

oh first calc is done i think yeah

pulsar marlin
#

If no Mae the zohra team really wants Lysander and si40 sem

timber cedar
olive jewel
#

oh geez 97th badensweat

pulsar marlin
#

You just want zohra to kill everyone instead of Mae

timber cedar
#

Gonna pull

dapper gate
pulsar marlin
#

How fat is ur lys

dapper gate
#

30930

pulsar marlin
#

Don’t pull lorsob

timber cedar
pulsar marlin
dapper gate
#

i hvae like 20k red cores i can 60 him

timber cedar
dapper gate
#

but can i put someone else for seren? melion or something?

timber cedar
#

I swear fawkes is clear choice

pulsar marlin
#

You can swap for wawkes like what I’m doing

timber cedar
#

For watha?

pulsar marlin
#

Ye

queen edge
#

i pulled fawkes to A with like 380 TE or sum

charred jetty
#

Ok that’s way too close

pulsar marlin
charred jetty
#

What is going on

timber cedar
#

Is it worth tho? Doesn't that waste si40

autumn river
dapper gate
pulsar marlin
#

Yikes volcano got everyone down

charred jetty
#

Fire has always been my worst

queen edge
charred jetty
#

Because no skylan and no mae

pulsar marlin
timber cedar
charred jetty
#

But that’s just ridiculous lol

autumn river
#

get on my lvl bud frfr

charred jetty
#

Frickin everyone has skylan in r12

#

Actually so annoying

timber cedar
#

Same for r511

charred jetty
#

They do know oddy is coming right

dapper gate
dapper gate
autumn river
pulsar marlin
dapper gate
#

alright ill try mel shall hild lys zohra

#

and ill pray

olive jewel
#

praying on Oddy's upfall prayge

pulsar marlin
#

You really need zohra to just one shot everything without Mae tidussnout

olive jewel
#

Please let the Elthara skip pay off

pulsar marlin
#

If I gave sion 2k DSA he will fucking wipe everything

dapper gate
#

and then maybbbeee whel a little for the last copies

#

well see idk

pulsar marlin
#

Ima just whale him if he’s giga broken

#

Cuz if he’s the next skylan ima just whale him tidussnout

dapper gate
#

how does one actually whale HB? surely its not just the draconic supplies in the temple

pulsar marlin
#

They have ships

dapper gate
#

oh trueeee

pulsar marlin
#

If you build off ships it’s like 600-700 dollars

dapper gate
#

so surely if i am pulling like 550 or so DI i only have to spend 1-200

pulsar marlin
pulsar marlin
#

Idk man if you get fucked by rng ur gonna be FUCKED

dapper gate
#

true chat

queen edge
#

=rift

turbid spade
dapper gate
torpid seal
#

Worth choice summoning for icariel?

olive jewel
#

Only if you are trying to be super competitive in RGMs

torpid seal
#

Is the 7% atk for everyone or is it just for her

autumn river
#

is that the new 4f? how does it work?

dapper gate
olive jewel
#

no

torpid seal
#

And is it gonna be permanent?

olive jewel
#

But she has an oath mark

#

that's enough

olive jewel
#

but it also gives you an oath level

torpid seal
#

Ohh

dapper gate
#

yeah i just did ashems mark

olive jewel
#

to compete at a high level you need those bonuses

#

^ these are for all heroes

pallid knoll
dapper gate
#

i wonder if thats why i tanked so hard at the end of TS first calc bc i didnt have the second upgrade, or did we just get enough to do the second at reset today?

pallid knoll
torpid seal
olive jewel
torpid seal
#

Holy fk

olive jewel
#

Trial is PvE like TR CR NC. Arena is PvP like TS LC HoE

torpid seal
#

Oh that’s percentages too?

olive jewel
#

its a big deal potentially

torpid seal
#

Might just have to then

#

And worth exchanging 4k diamond for the ink too? What about the fragments?

pulsar marlin
#

ATP this ain’t even charm this just wippa stall tidussnout

olive jewel
#

shards are kinda whatever I think?

#

hard to say

pulsar marlin
#

Ima get ashem wippa and westie’s oath mark

olive jewel
#

there will be plenty of shards over time from heroes

#

get them all if you can build Ica

torpid seal
#

Are ink used to unlock the oath?

pulsar marlin
#

Ima skip icariel oath unless it’s like it gives +1.8% again

olive jewel
olive jewel
#

idk what that level will do tho

pulsar marlin
#

Oh hell na lorsob

olive jewel
#

actually I have level 3

#

so I can see what level 4 does

pulsar marlin
#

What does level 4 give

olive jewel
#

that's level 3 -> 4

dapper gate
#

shouldve built her over afawkes just for this tbh

olive jewel
#

I have no Pippaw

dapper gate
#

wait how u level 3

olive jewel
#

but have the other 3 now

torpid seal
#

Should I si30 saitama next once I get him tmr or is there anyone else higher prio

olive jewel
dapper gate
#

oh im stupid dont mind me, im also level 3

olive jewel
#

I like day 2 A1ed her

grave hollow
olive jewel
#

wait is dim box open tomorrow?

dapper gate
#

yayaya

pulsar marlin
torpid seal
grave hollow
#

yes

dapper gate
#

gimme my tatsu to never be used

olive jewel
#

sick

#

thought it was still like 3 days

dapper gate
#

dim tower WHEN LILITH

pulsar marlin
#

I can test my 157 is wippa pippega

grave hollow
#

the Alvida stocks will drop massively tmr

olive jewel
pulsar marlin
#

Not 5 is tho lorsob

dapper gate
#

i mean were at 28 dims now so maybe with next 2 when we hit 30 theyll do it

olive jewel
#

I wonder what the teams would be

dapper gate
#

it would be kinda tough to make 5 comps with just dims i guess but

olive jewel
#

towers cap at 3t

dapper gate
#

oh fuck thats right

olive jewel
#

celepog at 2

pulsar marlin
#

It prob caps at 2

dapper gate
#

yeah gimme my 2 team dim tower NOW

pulsar marlin
#

I can imagine sjw burst being one

#

And idk the other, uh shalltear seal stall

dapper gate
#

shall seal or a marci team

grim hamlet
#

Feel like sjw is kind of bad in pve. Not like we ever saw him on camp teams

pulsar marlin
#

Sjw lowkey goated as fuck for pve

grim hamlet
#

Marci is definitely a comp

dapper gate
#

da vinki prob would work well in a shalltear seal comp

pulsar marlin
#

Not even lowkey he straight up is involved in a lot of mid game clears

olive jewel
#

Rem Shuna and Lai Marci probably

pulsar marlin
#

Cuz of the crazy ass e60

grim hamlet
#

Even if so, he has to survive

#

With only, what, Merlin for protection?

pulsar marlin
#

Rem

olive jewel
#

Bedo would goated

pulsar marlin
#

Rem is deadass good enough

#

Cuz he ults and turns invisible

grim hamlet
#

Sure but can he kill at deficit

pulsar marlin
#

Then he starts chaining together and snowballs

pulsar marlin
olive jewel
#

unironically? LDV would have potential copium

#

He was a huge camp hero

pulsar marlin
#

Past 400 uh I wouldn’t trust him

#

Until you get 409 e60

dapper gate
#

bring that boy ainz back

pulsar marlin
#

Ainz sucks so bad

#

He’s powercrept into oblivion now

velvet jetty
#

Ainz was so fun when he was good. Luckily he was basically 1:1 replaced with abel

grave hollow
#

pippega smh my head imagine counting deficit.... just push until pcapped

dapper gate
#

yeah i wish i took the game seriously when he came out, when i restarted and took it seriosuly he was already pcrept

pallid lava
#

Pippa or fawkes

grim hamlet
#

I feel like sjw does end up being a team but mostly cause of cha. Id guess she can kill at deficit and then sjw cleans up. And they both want your best protection

#

Idk how Marci works without the good protection though

#

And she's probably better

olive jewel
grim hamlet
#

(it's not actually funny, it's pretty messed up what they're doing with dims)

olive jewel
#

surely they would need to bring back garrison to make a dim tower

grim hamlet
#

Further evidence it's not coming ig

olive jewel
#

I'm finally deep enough in camp that rando people I am copying are using tasi cheese

dapper gate
#

oh wow that means youve made it

olive jewel
#

JD would be proud

grim hamlet
#

I'm finally deep enough in camp that e mehira stops working sadtrez

#

Or at least stops working with the book

olive jewel
#

Mine is L and still working

grim hamlet
#

Is coll though right?

olive jewel
#

usually still book

grim hamlet
#

Or do you just rng the cc

#

Huh

#

Cause they resist a lot now

#

It sucks

olive jewel
#

its one of the more RNG comps yeah

pulsar marlin
grim hamlet
#

Well not permanently. Eventually she'll surely get crept

#

Probably around when they add her to garrison

olive jewel
#

by a new dim that some people will lack runDog

pulsar marlin
#

Even with r9 I don’t think new players can compete at all

#

Currently di for r8 is 3:10

olive jewel
#

aaaaand we are capped in camp again

pulsar marlin
#

That’s a fucked ass clear for new players

olive jewel
#

Did Suavere's KT guide ever get put somewhere here? rakuhmm

dapper gate
#

i still havent 40'd my marci i should probably do that

olive jewel
#

you don't really need it

dapper gate
#

oh really? i thought her 40 was important, alright W

olive jewel
#

it will improve her but not enough to be worth

pulsar marlin
#

She works fine at 309 e60

dapper gate
#

oh mines 30930 maybe her 60 is whats hurting her

#

or lack thereof i should say

grim hamlet
#

I 40ed her innocent

#

she was already at 35 though, wasn't far too go

#

once saitama only needed 30 and tatsu turned out to be a dead fish I went for it

pulsar marlin
#

I 40ed lib for the same reason tidussnout

dapper gate
#

my r2 clear was 30s, i have other rounds that are much worse so def not a big concern of mine rn i think

olive jewel
pulsar marlin
grim hamlet
#

yea she was there for a while

olive jewel
#

it's not like she started at si35 on your acc bud

grim hamlet
#

I mean

#

not all of us have trees big enough to overcome small invests lol

olive jewel
#

my tree is still very smol according to Kisaka lallies

pulsar marlin
#

Ye my r2 is like 31 seconds with lys

grim hamlet
#

I definitely plan to try it

olive jewel
#

I managed to pull together 300 dimblems

grim hamlet
#

I did at one point

olive jewel
#

I think I just full send on him

grim hamlet
#

and then marci ate them for lunch

charred jetty
grim hamlet
#

I have 600, probably around 700 when new guy drops

olive jewel
charred jetty
#

but I have this suspicion that gen 5 wokes and gen 2 HBs are going to reset the status quo for what good heroes are

grim hamlet
#

there's only one faction

charred jetty
#

uh

olive jewel
charred jetty
#

well dgwyn was gen 1 right

#

when did HBs even come out

olive jewel
#

we need som medium wokes

charred jetty
#

June 2025?

#

no

grim hamlet
#

2024

charred jetty
#

June 2024

#

oh

#

bruh

grim hamlet
#

yea weve had a lot of htem

olive jewel
#

are we on gen 3 HB KatMafs

charred jetty
#

let's just call them 2026 HBs tidussnout

charred jetty
#

I don't see them slowing down from that for the rest of 2026

grim hamlet
#

i mean its worse then that

#

the recent trend is every new hero not only needs full invest but also needs a coll specific to them you wouldn't have otherwise

#

and benefits from every red stat significantly

charred jetty
#

to the point that at the rate we are pushing fawkes first prio, by the time we actually get him passed as best starter woke, we might already have a better one

olive jewel
#

Gwyn Hildwin Lan Sky -> Hae Levi Kae Elthara -> Oddy?

pulsar marlin
olive jewel
#

maybe those are gens?

charred jetty
#

I feel like we are overhyping oddy

olive jewel
#

I'm not dubbsyjam

charred jetty
#

no way he is actually like 3-5k DSA autos right

pulsar marlin
#

He’s at the very least a good defense buffer

olive jewel
#

Just waiting

charred jetty
pulsar marlin
#

Like he gives 55% damage reduction for existing

#

With 9f

charred jetty
#

yeah...

#

it's like daemia

#

daemia 40 I should say

pulsar marlin
#

As a 9f it’s pretty fucking good

charred jetty
#

like definitely better than misha and whatever else

charred jetty
#

maybe atk coll?

pulsar marlin
pulsar marlin
charred jetty
#

since he's fort and fort has low atk (especially in NC), so if he is a carry, we might have to stack him or be forced to strip eveyrone else

grim hamlet
pulsar marlin
#

If he truly stacks infinitely he might just out scale cr

charred jetty
#

what would we even use

grim hamlet
#

part of his kit scales on pp, idk if we care

charred jetty
#

probably rose right?

#

I have no idea lol

pulsar marlin
#

The only part that scales off pp is his DSA reduction which caps at like 80 pp

olive jewel
#

tank colls are an enigma to me

grim hamlet
#

lowers DSR based on PP. Caps out at 150 PP

charred jetty
#

what are tank colls again

#

I'm blanking

pulsar marlin
#

Soul bind

charred jetty
olive jewel
#

bondage watch horn rose

charred jetty
#

oh yeah horn

#

horn might be good

grim hamlet
pulsar marlin
#

He’s using horn for pvp

olive jewel
#

yeah

pulsar marlin
#

And either rose or bondage for pve or something

charred jetty
#

surely we don't need 7 cheat deaths or something ridiculous right

grim hamlet
#

he has 5 lol

charred jetty
#

lowkey this guy might just be the new fawkes in whoran

pulsar marlin
charred jetty
#

that would be such a meme

pulsar marlin
#

The initial one doesn’t count

charred jetty
#

I mean go figure when you slap too big of a number in the cheat deaths department

grim hamlet
#

fawkes is not remotely limited to seal

pulsar marlin
#

Unless I’m reading it wrong

charred jetty
#

I feel like he might replace wuci

grim hamlet
#

people use him all over and he's great

charred jetty
#

yeah that's true

grim hamlet
#

if ody starts in seal that's cooked

charred jetty
#

I've been running fawkes in alvida pony

pulsar marlin
#

Nvm it’s 5

charred jetty
#

well fawkes started in seal

#

it's just a good baseline

#

I mean if you have 6 cheat deaths you're at least good in seal lol

#

skylan is pretty good in seal

grim hamlet
#

we'll have to see

#

but there's no listed invincibility period

#

so 5 or 6 cheat deaths might disappear faster then addy would

#

skylan turns into an untargetable ball o lighting or something for a couple seconds so 3 goes significantly further then 5 without any kind of invul period

pulsar marlin
#

The way his skill 3 is worded is so weird

#

Cuz it doesn’t state that kinetic energy itself has a cap

#

But the buffs on e30 has a cap so like does he stack infinitely or na

grim hamlet
#

yea no idea there lol

pulsar marlin
#

At the very least he has dae 40 as his e60 and 3f

#

For existing 68% damage reduction is really strong no?

#

With some cheat deaths as well

grim hamlet
#

idk

pulsar marlin
#

He might just replace wucuis lowkey

grim hamlet
#

lot of stuff ignores that I think

#

ers and dragonspeak damage for instance don't care about DR I don't think

pulsar marlin
#

He has the scaling potential and protects his allies decently well

grim hamlet
#

neither does true damage but there's not a lot of that

pulsar marlin
#

True damage is just shalltear+cha for now right

grim hamlet
#

ers is a lot though

#

and lots have dragonspeak

#

these days

pulsar marlin
#

Ig we wait and see

#

If he stacks infinitely im whaling him

#

Cuz that’s just an overlooked ass mechanic

willow bison
pulsar marlin
#

Pippa is lowkey pretty good in charm

pallid lava
#

Pippa or fawkes?

pulsar marlin
#

She lowers rng by a lot cuz 4 cheat deaths

pulsar marlin
grim hamlet
#

she just like eviscerates them

#

pretty sure jd said he benched envy for her cause she was better at dpsing at deficit

pulsar marlin
#

Like I said it isn’t even charm it’s just wippa stall now

#

Also cuz I’m only at a 360 deficit so like I’m not in trying times yet

grim hamlet
#

honestly charm had zero issues for me until now in 62 when they got e60

willow bison
grim hamlet
#

and even then I kind of didn't try much lol. Snap benched it and I didn't feel like cooking so I did too

paper coral
#

as a new player, should i be saving my common scrolls for some future event? i started last night

pallid knoll
#

=40960

hollow parcelBOT
pallid knoll
#

=sgprio

gilded sapphireBOT
nova wharf
#

Who should I be pushing after Seal? I saw the guide and it's not super clear. I'm doing treat, owl, and ice crown as my lure targets.

quiet folio
#

=todolist

gilded sapphireBOT
#

Beginner TODO-List

  1. Read and follow =wishlist
  2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
  3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
  4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
  5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
  6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
  7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
  8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
  9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
  10. AFK
  11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
  12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
  13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn grave

polar grail
#

For some reason my red engraving income is better than e30 income

fiery thicket
#

=guide

polar grail
#

Where do I get more e30s

fiery thicket
#

=campaign

tepid raft
#

Hi peeps

olive jewel
olive jewel
polar grail
olive jewel
grim hamlet
#

I hope that question is about the bounty board lol

#

if you haven't been resetting the store...

olive jewel
# polar grail You can reset it ?

top left. 50 dias and you reroll every quest you didn't already start. So you start all the good rewards and then refresh the rest

polar grail
#

Ooohhhh

grim hamlet
#

though rule of thumb is don't bother until your bounty board is level 8

olive jewel
#

true

polar grail
#

God damn it lol

olive jewel
#

how long does that take?

polar grail
#

It’s 8

grim hamlet
#

yea you should do it then

#

its not the end of hte world if you haven't but it helps

#

pick the stuff you want, refresh the others

olive jewel
#

also engraving shards are still not super common there

grim hamlet
#

@charred jetty actually made an app or something to help you decide

hushed trout
#

What is the awakened priority

olive jewel
#

so your first question it won't change a ton

hushed trout
#

What is the awakened hero priority list

#

Envy then who?

olive jewel
#

=te

gilded sapphireBOT
grim hamlet
#

doesn't actually start with envy

polar grail
#

Don’t you reroll twice a day for the shop ? @grim hamlet

grim hamlet
#

yes

#

get all the staves

#

and then quick buy hte other stuff but the reason to refresh is the staves

olive jewel
#

my post reso 18 quick buy

grim hamlet
#

I add cores in when I get low. like right now

olive jewel
#

I did that sometimes before staves

grim hamlet
#

pre-reso18 baits are kind of a good buy. but its a tough sell

olive jewel
#

but I have enough cores and staves are kind expensive

olive jewel
#

a lot easier to justify

grim hamlet
#

yea but you still need them badly

#

idk I wouldn't do it from the start

#

but once you start to get a comfy dia supply it starts to look better. and its not bad

polar grail
#

Just the e30s I have everything else

#

literally everything else is fine just my e30 is so bad

olive jewel
#

man what should my 7t be

polar grail
#

7t?

olive jewel
#

7 team for TS

polar grail
#

Oh lol

#

I’m almost to awEstrilda :3

olive jewel
#

she's very good

#

I will refrain from saying the thing I said about her a few weeks ago that got accidentally auto modded despair

polar grail
#

I wish I was in your guild mine sucks

olive jewel
#

you can apply

#

idk what the wait list is like rn, we are now 3 guilds

olive jewel
torpid sand
#

Welcome back (I havent returned) peepoNerdGiggle

olive jewel
#

nem

torpid sand
#

Hi bud

olive jewel
torpid sand
#

Ill check

olive jewel
torpid sand
olive jewel
#

KatMafs I said accidentally

#

not reasonably

torpid sand
#

In other words, I just finished work and ready to go home FireDopey

olive jewel
torpid sand
torpid sand
#

A tea?

#

Like a singular tea? kekruna

olive jewel
#

yeah. one mug KatMafs

torpid sand
olive jewel
torpid sand
#

What is bud thinking...

#

Its clearly a teabag worrysmh

olive jewel
#

I know bud

torpid sand
#

U were definitely thinking about something else, got westy on ur mind? peepoNerdGiggle

torpid sand
polar grail
#

Where at ? Is there a guild ID or something

torpid sand
#

Oh look, zekon deleted his main and his alt, so we were right about his alt

torpid sand
polar grail
#

okay

torpid sand
#

He got beaned

olive jewel
#

havent seen cheetobean in a min

torpid sand
#

He went inactive a while ago

polar grail
#

K I’ll apply in one hour lol

torpid sand
#

Given he had a cult following I think it was because he couldn't keep up the persona kek

torpid sand
#

Applications close in 61 minutes

olive jewel
torpid sand
#

Chop chop

polar grail
#

okay lmfao

#

I’m not doing anything I’m just working :/ desk job is gross

#

pays a decent amount ig

sharp star
#

That pfp tho

polar grail
#

Sandy is a baddddieee ikr

olive jewel
#

now I have

torpid sand
#

I regret doing so

velvet jetty
olive jewel
#

its good

#

good combo with:

pulsar marlin
#

Nitro havers smh

olive jewel
#

do discord usernames have room for (Ch76 DeathEvilGodExplosionDestruction Enthusiast) ?

olive jewel
olive jewel
tepid raft
olive jewel
#

hope you're well dubbsyjam

velvet jetty
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@olive jewel how do I get purple name I want to be speshul

olive jewel
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mostly by helping people out a bunch and then having other CS quit

velvet jetty
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If I ask JD really nicely will he make me purple?

olive jewel
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probably not worry_pat

velvet jetty
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🥹

torpid sand
velvet jetty
torpid sand
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Your words cut deeper than knives

solar fractal
solar fractal
torpid sand
velvet jetty
torpid sand
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I didn't say it wasn't true

solar fractal
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They should remove some purple roles to make space

torpid sand
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But yeah cs is supposed to be 2-3 active people

solar fractal
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Just not you nem

torpid sand
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Jacko, cc, snap etc

solar fractal
velvet jetty
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Jacko is the only generally active CS

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At this point, in this chat

cobalt abyss
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cc is very active as well lmao

olive jewel
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central is pretty active

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Snap is at least around lurking a lot too

cobalt abyss
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^^

velvet jetty
olive jewel
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Dubbbsy kinda active but quit so

velvet jetty
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I love dubbs, but he did quit

torpid sand
cobalt abyss
olive jewel
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There's also @winter halo

torpid sand
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There's a point where ur knowledge gets powercrept

olive jewel
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@winter halo

torpid sand