classic-questions

[hasty flax]

Wasddidudo

[solar fractal]

Nothing

[hasty flax]

Explain

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1258469606603882529.webp?size=96&animated=true

[hasty flax]

Tlel me cutie

[hasty flax]

Bruh

[tepid totem]

wassup dol

[hasty flax]

Hi hattie

[oak stirrup]

15USD

230 is child's play when everyone is like 250 now

[pulsar marlin]

Cr isn’t real

[oak stirrup]

It's real all right, all you need is top 3% and you earn one free tree level a week

Don't you like free stuff?

[hasty flax]

So expensice

[oak stirrup]

Just think of it as 'I want to play roulette once today, and I'll take the perk pass as a bonus'

[hasty flax]

Sint this decent value tho

35 TE in chest + skin

[merry quest]

Hi, I have a question about this. Where do we pull for Elthara? Wyrmcrest or Dragonheart??

[pulsar marlin]

Gf still better

Barely tho

[hasty flax]

Isnt gf 2:1?

[hasty flax]

Thoughts on this cutie ?

[oak stirrup]

I have three letters for it

[hasty flax]

100 ?

[oak stirrup]

RIP

[hasty flax]

I only have a 2 atk coll for lan, this should do better in nc?

[oak stirrup]

But was it +2?

[hasty flax]

:( sadge

[hasty flax]

No it is a flight

[oak stirrup]

You want a bounty or vault both can work with that Lan timer

Feel free to try though, the time is too short I think

Probably even less than time needed for the +2 to kick in

Or you could probably get away with full attack

[hasty flax]

Sounds like a rip :)

Does +1 even matter

Oh I have a crit

[raven kestrel]

Hey guys i just reach map 13 and got a chest,i dont know if i should take ivan for rem. As u can see my team is 3 support (yes include that fat cat) buffing my rem, and i would love to know if i should take ivan because ivan with rem is devil work. Plus im about to have lyca. Thank u all very much, all love.

[tepid totem]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[oak stirrup]

Instead of asking people who are probably years since they cleared it, just try different things, or copy answer from cleared solution

Wait a minute that's single stage, stick with guide using Ivan Randle

[raven kestrel]

@tepid totem hmm interesting, i havent have any copy of ivan yet. So my randle still live till the end but cant finish anyone. Rem still work like before so i made a team that licking her feet while she clear the map. Its not a long term answer tho

[oak stirrup]

Rem is fine if you can make a team for her, just because Randle is easier to use doesn't mean Rem stopped working or 'got nerfed'

[raven kestrel]

I have a plan, including rem, ivan and lyca (but that worked in 2024, im really worried if it still work now) also thank u for the advice

[raven kestrel]

Oh dang thank u for confirming that, returning hear people insisting that randle is the best choice for early Carrier really affected mu judgment

[oak stirrup]

It is, but again, they don't nerf other heroes to the ground just because a new one got released

People need to get over that fact and realise that 'sometimes things just don't work the same for you, and you should find a workaround'

[raven kestrel]

Thats true, i hate collection, its so rng base, i cant even decide if my run good or bad until like 2/3 way

[oak stirrup]

Typical meta chasing brains thinking "if something is not meta anymore it's useless"

To that I say "You fucking idiots"

[raven kestrel]

Alot of new character doesnt help those kind of people too. Reading all the skills and experimenting is hard to them. But i mean why do u even play this game then, this game is so fun when u change one lane and suddenly it work XD

[oak stirrup]

How to slightly reduce stress - suppose stats don't go the way you want it to, you then go plan B and plan your collection around the stats you get instead of ones you wanted

[oak stirrup]

They're spoiled by the path of least resistance - that's why I actually think the newer heroes should be locked behind needing to build old heroes enough, before they are even allowed to be pulled

[raven kestrel]

Do it, pls lilith lol. I got fucked up since the first update that dragon character came in

Didnt even try to read one of them

[hexed mulch]

Guys once i have 9 meta A heros, what should i focus my gem usage on? stargazer pulls?

[oak stirrup]

When you start stargazing depends on how you feel, I don't remember but didn't you need 10 before you're even allowed to do that?

[hexed mulch]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[hexed mulch]

i think it says 9

[oak stirrup]

No clue but just pull when you feel like it, usually good time is when you're sure your current roster is enough to keep passing campaign

[hexed mulch]

alr thanks

[charred jetty]

oh shoot sorry are you on @willow bison

I had to change comps for TS, my comps are, well let's just say quite far into the %s

I’m 100

Hey clawed back after not setting my teams for months

Not that bad if you think about it tbh

Also can you help me gauge something

Is this legit viable, or is robo playing 4D chess

[oak stirrup]

In terms of winning a match that shouldn't have won or what

Also dude why you no change teams, do you really want to end up like, on calculation round and fail to cut into 5 teams then your rank take a huge shit?

Also funny how main still got a bigger diamond share than alt despite being in rando casual guild

Because entire guild had only 5 active players

[charred jetty]

uh like he's trying to get people to copy his decoy comps so he can set his actual comps and outplay them

[oak stirrup]

Ah yes he goes for #1 that's why, it's still very convincing when he still performs to #1 even with false comp

But then you need to actually tryhard so much to figure out how to counter your own false comps

[charred jetty]

yeah robo plays TS on another level to plebs like me lol

[oak stirrup]

I'm happily serving besides Scars

[charred jetty]

Scars is your region rank 1?

[oak stirrup]

Usually, but I think he might slack off during first calc sometimes

[charred jetty]

I see

[oak stirrup]

So I get to be the figurehead for the time being

[charred jetty]

I'm just trying to get by now lol

don't really care about top 50 too much anymore, but need to not drop out of top 100 lol

[oak stirrup]

Nah if you follow logic of seacow and stuff you'll just bounce back to your usual rank at 5 team fights

[charred jetty]

yeah

I've tested it in the past

[oak stirrup]

But that is IF you make it to 5 team

[inner talon]

I already built naroko, which one should i put on here to sub on

[oak stirrup]

That's why don't slack off so much

[charred jetty]

as long as you set your teams day 5 and day 10 (like both calcs), it's pretty much fine

[oak stirrup]

Villainelle is a clear pick

[charred jetty]

maybe slightly suboptimal, but it's not too bad

[oak stirrup]

I still update my teams because being as high as you can leaves room for errors

[charred jetty]

I don't think it's even possible for you to not make it to 5 team

[oak stirrup]

I did notice that, even not updating comp before team count go up is fine now

[inner talon]

Okk ty bro

[charred jetty]

yeah I try to make top 100 during first round of calc days at least

falling out of top 100 makes it a bit iffy

[oak stirrup]

But bunch of new heroes so it can be problematic

[charred jetty]

I also realized central's teams are just goated, so I'm probably going to just hard copy even if he doesn't have wuci

[oak stirrup]

Remember, you also have the power of stacked tree and above average collections working for you

Well if his teams work for old regions and for you then by all means

[charred jetty]

literally no one else on the planet does good teams without skylan anymore

ye his roster is very very similar to mine

[oak stirrup]

It's tough, Skylan is a clutch for easy rank climb

[charred jetty]

only difference is wuci

[oak stirrup]

Even more so once Saitama comes

[charred jetty]

there used to be this guy in quagga's region that didn't have skylan that I would copy

which helped me land several top 50s

but that guy did the unthinkable and actually built skylan

so now I'm just cooked

I think everyone in top 100 in my region has skylan

skylan levi and lan

[oak stirrup]

I'm stuffed this week for NC because I can't get the changes working yet, was in rush since I'm still stressed out over incident that happened today

Skylan don't really have sub, trying to use Sion or even Eironn is suicidal

[hasty flax]

Um is this still good?

[charred jetty]

oh sorry to hear that, hopefully your incident is resolved

[oak stirrup]

Dude your luck is wasted on not miracle

[charred jetty]

GG moment

the best RNG comes during your crappy runs

[hasty flax]

I just tried to run some colls to use up totmes smh

Worth carding/elixir last ERR?

[charred jetty]

how many cards?

I think that one is fine, myu still uses my 2 ERR flight

[hasty flax]

I have 1 atk

[oak stirrup]

Like if you made flight with it, it would have been godly, but still have its place in CR I guess

[charred jetty]

she probably wants a better one, but it's doing okay

oh you should use flight on err?

[hasty flax]

i thought vualts wre the oens that wanted err?

[oak stirrup]

I don't even got 2ERR flight, you know what I use instead? 3ERR bounty+2

[charred jetty]

wait no way that's worse than 2 ERR flight

[hasty flax]

ok i think im gonna use elixir, no fk it im carding

[oak stirrup]

Had no choice because ERR doesn't mingle well with me when I do flight runs

Plus it was that era where people were making bounty left and right

[charred jetty]

is bounty the move now?

[oak stirrup]

Still gotta hit CR with alt then decide if I want to waste time improving NC before I ditch the guild and go on new adventure

[charred jetty]

I'm cautious about doing expensive runs

[oak stirrup]

Well full attack attack and now IS is a thing

[charred jetty]

because the new set of cele sust and sorc colls are coming

wait what happened to raccoons?

[oak stirrup]

On the plus side I won't need to make IS on main for now because still holding out well on CR

No more AE competitive, just true chill now

[charred jetty]

oh

that makes sense

was a good run

long reign

[oak stirrup]

So I decided I'll just randomly wander across different guilds until I set eyes on new home

If they accept me of course, Sundae missed out

[charred jetty]

hey there's always Ex for comp AE

[oak stirrup]

I don't like my chances ngl

[charred jetty]

really?

aren't you like star player in raccoons?

[oak stirrup]

You know me, I'm pessimistic af and lack confidence until I pull things off

[charred jetty]

could also hit up ami ruby if you still have your connections there

or KBRS

or neuro

or if you also want to take a break come join me in Co

[oak stirrup]

I don't know, AE is not even announced so I'll take my time and figure things out

[charred jetty]

[wraith fjord]

Join the depths

[lofty mulch]

How can we get this frame ?

[inner talon]

Is the new wilder worth building?

[oak stirrup]

Spending money in Lilith store to get mithril and you get rewarded with the frame

[lofty mulch]

Ohhh

[oak stirrup]

Yes and no, yes because she enables very good buffs to get unlocked from current event for Pippa Estrilda and soon Shemira, no if you don't have Pippa built because +30IS is very very good

Was stuck at 240, then made changes to R2 and now this

[cobalt abyss]

join us

[grave hollow]

[pulsar marlin]

The expansion pass is 2.5 to 1

All the 5 dollar deals are 2.5 to 1, if ur buying in bulk its 2-1

[gray pecan]

when will the next server start does anyone know

[oak stirrup]

Nobody knows, Lilith doesn't announce it, and keep in mind that the later you start playing, the more you will be behind

Even arena is 'region based' now that you face people not just in your own server, but also previous servers

@charred jetty U found your comp for tonight?

@grave hollow 13 more levels and there will be world peace for the time being

[gray pecan]

So is there no difference in playing at 1189 and 1190

[craggy oak]

Very minor differences

[gray pecan]

But I am already far behind in this server

Should I keep playing?

[oak stirrup]

You will be even more behind because there's like 97% no different to staying in this server, because guess what pal, you will face the same opponents in arena, except now that you are in a new account with worse roster

What is that anyway like first day of gaming?

[gray pecan]

Is my deck good or should I restart

[oak stirrup]

Way too early to say, everyone's "deck" would be similar shit if they were at your stage

It's not about what you have but what your plans are in building

[gray pecan]

Ok thanks I will stay with it for now

[oak stirrup]

Nobody expected the arena change so it's normal to think you fight different people on new server

[cosmic fulcrum]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[cosmic fulcrum]

=dragon

=dragon wishlist

[oak stirrup]

TL;DR just one copy of Elthara

[solar fractal]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[dark musk]

I would say so yeah, but try to get Randle. Randle and Ivan will be your main carried and the hero’s you really want to build first

[gray pecan]

I am missing Randle… is there anyway I can get copy of it

[oak stirrup]

It's all up to RNG, but if you do manage to push without him using another method, you can unlock =grit later and swap for him intantly from another built hero

[gilded sapphire]

Legacy of Grit Information:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1204202682907230229

[oak stirrup]

Getting Rem from =garrison might work better for you in this case

[gilded sapphire]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[spare ginkgo]

=sgpeio

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

Stargazing Priorities:

#994913771598389318 message

[timber sphinx]

guys i just unlocked GG what should i focus on there ?

[oak stirrup]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[oak stirrup]

Keep in mind because of the cursed RNG nature, you usually don't get what you're after

Also =todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[timber sphinx]

should i select luminus flight as my first collection ?

also i can't select totems for some reason

[raven kestrel]

@gray pecan just have fun, understand what your roster can give u. And if u think all the char u have aint get u anywhere, then reroll. Why not

Their alot of early carry that still work, Daimon, scarlet, savast (no fk joke)

And the...witch girl (with enough planning tho)

[oak stirrup]

You need to have pulled totems to be able to select them

[timber sphinx]

oh i am stupid 💀

[raven kestrel]

Hey kisaka, what do u think go better together gorren + ivan + palmer, or ivan + jerome + palmer

Aghhh too many good buffer for god sake

[timber sphinx]

i can do 7 x10 pulls should i use them all ?

[raven kestrel]

Jerome and gorren both can heal...gorren can live longer cause his fourth skill, but same with jerome and his monkey...

Palmer just great...can replace, or i can try a 4 support 1 carry team, that would be cool

[raven kestrel]

Why not, GAMBLE

[grave hollow]

Ezpz new NC plate

[oak stirrup]

It's up to you gauge what is best for your circumstances, some people opt with no totem runs to try pushing their luck, others feel running all blue totems gives them the comfort

[raven kestrel]

What the?...hell, i dont know what did i do wrong but apparently my Rem feet licking team suck

[oak stirrup]

=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726

[oak stirrup]

Rem needs more protection than Randle, if you get Ivan SI30 early then your campaign push get a lot easier

[raven kestrel]

Well...im just a bit disapoint that my Strat got smashed by the meta....i really thought 4 licking feet minion will help rem. Thank u kisaka...

[oak stirrup]

You could still try position swaps or whatnot, very often the main hero is placed on slot 4 because it has this unwritten rule that slot 4 has better energy regen and all that, Rem needs to be full energy ASAP so she could ult

[timber sphinx]

oh i see so there is no particular rule to follow, but what about the collection itself how to know which one should i be using

[oak stirrup]

=todolist as for preferred stats, you get an idea when you read through the hero's skill lists

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[raven kestrel]

Appreciate, from what i seen Ivan can...cast a shield for Rem, but since i cant build Rem fast enough her ult wont work without atlesst trigger 2 or 3 times. And since that flaw is so big, the rest buffer die cause of lack of plan B....

[oak stirrup]

Randle by nature tend to be a support by summoning snake and copying stat of highest hero that's not him, so it makes sense he uses anything with full attack or full erosion, depending on who else is in your party

[dark musk]

=te

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[timber sphinx]

so it is the luminus flight

[oak stirrup]

They recommend that for very good reason - so your supports can get a second chance most of the times when they're about to die

[raven kestrel]

So with that logic...I still can use Rem for Randle to copy her, with a bit of tank to stall time and...Ivan to just...protect one of them. Right? Or im heading toward the wrong way?

[timber sphinx]

now it all make sense

[oak stirrup]

If you manage to link Rem to someone big enough so she has the highest attack or combat rating can't remember what it was, then you'll probably have an overkill team for first 30 chapoters

[grave hollow]

okai now need to hit t50 10 more times for the next frame

[oak stirrup]

3 bolts?

[grave hollow]

its the elite frame only from now on

[raven kestrel]

Thats a solution...i need to experiment more than !

[oak stirrup]

Those top VN guilds tend to experiment, a lot

[grave hollow]

next frame take too much it doesnt make sense, why go from 10 to 20 immediately

[oak stirrup]

Don't worry it will just be 10 10 10 and more 10 from now on

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/jojagifs-suvondutch-gif-9033991191057003879

[grave hollow]

the frame from 90 look too good but gonna cost few years

[oak stirrup]

Don't forget to finalise your TS teams

[grim hamlet]

I know we got buff now but I'm still quite happy with that. I only got Pippa mark so that was my first 230b+ even without that

[oak stirrup]

If you can deal with R2 you can hit a lot harder

[grave hollow]

great central

[grim hamlet]

Also managed to keep max cr rewards on gus without building ica

[solar fractal]

Got 14% with no Marci and laios

No complaints

[autumn gull]

casual should i just pull for fawkes at 370 TE

[oak stirrup]

Didn't you hit 240b last night

[solar fractal]

Wait

[autumn gull]

i might lose t100 tho 😢

[solar fractal]

You have 10 mins go for it

[autumn gull]

do i

[solar fractal]

No

[autumn gull]

guh

[grim hamlet]

Probably shouldnt

[solar fractal]

Bud

[grim hamlet]

But if you do, stop at m30 and go put him in then finish pulling

[solar fractal]

I mean let’s be honest he’s gonna be next woke 100% all rgm’s usage

[grim hamlet]

He does pretty well at that and you don't want to miss putting him in entirely lol

[solar fractal]

But holding is more safe remember your mature now lol

[oak stirrup]

Wait a minute did they scrap ingame forum

[grave hollow]

wait i got 44 whites

[oak stirrup]

Or is that in 'club' now for whatever reason

[grave hollow]

many good things in a row

[raven kestrel]

Im stuck at chap 13 now, i think i just need a break to rethink. I felt like my team can go past 16...i just been doing smth wrong

[oak stirrup]

=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726

[raven kestrel]

Fuck, i migt have to try that, i dont want to but

[autumn gull]

i held

[oak stirrup]

If you want to be lazy just copy existing cleared comps

[solar fractal]

@harsh acorn pipa?

[raven kestrel]

I dont,i really dont

[oak stirrup]

hold

Do they deliberately hide ingame forum if you set language to any Chinese

Holy shit they do

[raven kestrel]

...I SWEAR THERE MUST BE A WAY. I cant rage over this furry game. HOW THE HELL DID MY SCARLET PULL ME THROUGH chap 18

I will be back guys, imma come back with results!

[oak stirrup]

Dude if you're mad over this regular mode imagine how much you'd rage over Illusionary Journey

All right let's see... Recruitment recruitment

[raven kestrel]

Well im not actually mad, rather confused

I cant get over my old acc somehow, need a fresh take on this game. Cant keep trailing back

[oak stirrup]

Yo help me pick some decent rando guild from ingame forum

[pulsar marlin]

Bud same volcano is just ass

[harsh acorn]

It’s seen early game usage.
Can be a decent sub should you get lucky and get a copy of her

[oak stirrup]

My next goal turned out to be full so, oh well

[harsh acorn]

[oak stirrup]

Wanderlust kicking in

[pulsar marlin]

Bud I did zohra at 320 no regrets

[raven kestrel]

Idk none about guild, i pick a vietnamese guild and sneak inside their border, like America immagrant

[pulsar marlin]

Tbf I had like insane normal zohra luck and got 3 zohra from summons

So like that was lowkey justified as hell

[solar fractal]

Interesting

[oak stirrup]

I mean, I could join them for a day or two, second proper guild I ever joined after DOMINATION

[tepid totem]

i hope eugene is swappable with fawkes

[solar fractal]

I guess you just need her sp for the cheat death

[autumn gull]

zohra over fawkes? or you alt had her

[pulsar marlin]

Ye it makes charm slightly more consistent

[pulsar marlin]

I’m swapping wath for wawkes

[autumn gull]

interesting

[oak stirrup]

Aha, you'll do! See what happens when I wake up I guess

[pulsar marlin]

By then wath is r1 and im pretty sure i can just sub her

[autumn gull]

NC staple though, you’ll have to merc her if she comes back

[pulsar marlin]

I can just build cha instead

And I’m perma mercing wawkes for nc anyways

[oak stirrup]

U can eat good without building Cha

[pulsar marlin]

Yes, but it seems like cha is becoming like marci where’s she’s prob mainstay nc staple

[willow bison]

[oak stirrup]

You won't know yet, the not R1 Cha team is slower than current meta

[solar fractal]

Bot spotted

[oak stirrup]

@willow bison Good job top 50 as usual

[tepid totem]

i hope not

[pulsar marlin]

But cha is like build prio #5

[tepid totem]

lies

[pulsar marlin]

I got like a lot more to build before her

[oak stirrup]

If U are daring U can even use Cha in TS

[pulsar marlin]

Ye with the ashem sjw team right

[autumn gull]

cha does look like a good NC build, but it’s just a guess what type of NC bosses favor her over other options

we will see

[pulsar marlin]

Dual mantle better not be dogshit

If it is dogshit it’s genuinely over for nc

[tepid totem]

i hope cha gets kicked soon

[pulsar marlin]

I’ve been using envy r1 with wawkes r5 so like it doesn’t matter to me

[tepid totem]

wow

[oak stirrup]

No idea since I don't use her

U can use both Shemira and Estrilda together in that SJW team though

[pulsar marlin]

Westie with envy

[oak stirrup]

If it works for you then just do whatever

[pulsar marlin]

It’s not working tho, neither of them is working

Volcano always so rough for me

[muted anchor]

Play the game pls

You have nothing to use for anything remotely close for a line up

If you read the newbie guide just set your wishlist up and jeep summoning

[raven kestrel]

I finally followed the guide...this will help me having 160 level char... Without have to ascend them

...this is not preety but it have to be done (hope so)

I think i found the team, THANK U KISAKA FOR THE 4 SPOT THING. LET FK GO

Long live saveas

[oak stirrup]

Keyword - continuous attacks

[raven kestrel]

Saveas is actually so cool. He like suck, but he always look like he cooking. 40 throws for 30k damage

[oak stirrup]

If you have nothing else to even use, there's no reason you should ever recycle, even though diamond is good for stuff

It's like asking "Should I throw away my current worn clothes even though I got nothing else to wear?"

[timber sphinx]

lmao

okey okey so i get this nd then keep reruning until i get perfect one ?

[oak stirrup]

Your odds of getting perfect is lower than winning lottery sometimes

Most people settle for not perfect and when they need perfect, they recast stuff later, not recommended though, it's expensive

[timber sphinx]

expensive ?

i thought i can redo runs as much as i want

i mean 7 times per week

[oak stirrup]

The cost of 'recasting' of one orange to red, is as much as pulling 40 gold totems

You can redo runs, but what you get is very random, recast is literally, force change the not good stuff, with good stuff you want

And recast can be done after you got your collection from the run

[timber sphinx]

oooo i see

it's like rerolling stats on gear in other games

[oak stirrup]

Think of blacksmithing - you make a sword (collection run), add stuff like gems before the sword hardens and set (use cards to add red stats that you want), and then recast = sharpen the sword after you made it

[raven kestrel]

...im stuck again at 13-14...the wizard shoot one time and rem die after 3 sec. Imma head to the popular team 😞

[timber sphinx]

yeah make a lot of sense, and do i use my pull currency to recast ?

[oak stirrup]

There are subtle ways you can deal with annoying mobs. like using Nara to pull them to you, or snipe them with a Silvina, or dive them with Athalia, and so on

[oak stirrup]

There is such thing as 'recasting elixir' when you pull gold totems, or use a gold totem card (whenever you get gold card), save them and never use them unless your collection is very very good or even near top tier

[quiet folio]

=dragons

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235

[timber sphinx]

got it thanks

[oak stirrup]

One copy of Elthara, that's it, no more, waiting for new dragon to decide priority shift

[quiet folio]

Ye well started recently and only got 7 of those cards. Just wanted to check it

But thanks for the info

[raven kestrel]

Wtf? Wtf?...What the fuck? How?

[oak stirrup]

Realistically you ignore it for a long time anyway, you want 700ish cards so you can actually build a proper top tier when it's decided

[quiet folio]

Alr

[oak stirrup]

Ivan/Randle synergy is scary when it comes

[quiet folio]

Just move your heroes until it works. If it cant just do some side content

[raven kestrel]

If i try his team and i win. I will bark to my neighbor, no fucking way

[raven kestrel]

I know that but still it blasphemous

[harsh acorn]

you might be barking...

[quiet folio]

If it works it works

[gray dock]

i mean what hereos should i use

and i reset all my hereos so it looked better

[raven kestrel]

Fuck it, i try to pair them together and rearranged (ofc im not gonna put 1 level char like he did) and im still losin

Im about to lose my mind

[harsh acorn]

he has 2 leveled characters.
=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726

[raven kestrel]

I don't understand...i have he same 120 randle and ivan like him...i even sprinkle abit of tank

[cedar veldt]

Just for my mental note with the current exchange event

I know you take reds if you have less than 3 si30s but should i take reds if i have 2 si30s but 275 reds towards the 3rd or shall i just move on to baits

[harsh acorn]

use 3 other gb characters. you don't need any other heroes

[harsh acorn]

depends how close you are to your next prio si30. I think baits is fine though

=exchange

[gilded sapphire]

For exchange events and chests: If there are no special exchanges (DIs, Dragon Reds, Dragon Gear, L Totem card etc.):

• Reds if less than 3 si30s
• Baits before pet reso 18
• Juice post pet reso 18
  Otherwise, ask in chat for more information.

[raven kestrel]

That must be it, because i was desprated so i copy exactly his team position, and i lost

it was not even close i can tall yall that

I know i know...haizz, imma go do candy crush in this hame

[cedar veldt]

I have Tamrus and awPippa si30 because i have been shafted and havent gotten any other prio hero M until recently (none that needed si30) im finally 1 copy away from being able to build Ivan (in chapter 35 btw) and sitting at 275 out of the 300 necessary reds

[raven kestrel]

I will come up with something else. Maybe grind until all the L+ turn 160 so my main team can actually have some kind of power

[harsh acorn]

show box...

[cedar veldt]

This is what my box is currently sitting at

[harsh acorn]

oof...

aPippa first woke is not great

[cedar veldt]

I didnt get randle build until chapter 32 othwrwise i wouldve si30d him instead of tamrus

[cedar veldt]

I know its not ideal but Pippa holds a special place in my heart from when i first started playing years ago and awPippa is what brought me back after losing interest

[harsh acorn]

Ivan is more important than randle si30.

[harsh acorn]

fair enough, play the game to have fun and to enjoy it :)

[cedar veldt]

I know im just saying from my heroes currently built thats why tamrus has it over randle

[harsh acorn]

tamrus isn't bad actually. she wants 9f and probably e30 when you can afford it (other prio first), but tamrus 30 is fine

[cedar veldt]

Ivan is my next si30 definitely

Until chapter 34 i didnt have the 4 ivan copies to make him mythic

Nah i have my grit but i was told not to use it till the end and with Saitama i wasnt struggling at all so i just didnt do it

Thats true but no harm no foul like i said i really didnt struggle without him but im sure he couldve also helped

I know its just what was on him because other supports have my flights but i just changed it

How bad does it slow progression because im in chapter 35 and aPippa and Gorok 2v5 every stage

Ive had some really REALLY bad luck with runs with a lot not even having full legendary

This account is only 3 1/2 weeks old i think?

Im usually in the top 10% but i could always be higher

Okay will work on that worst case scenario i swap aPippa at next swap event (whenever that happens)

I have my Elthara copy and she is on my 2nd team in ts

Those are my teams currently (six is a throwaway i legit dont have the heroes)

You get TE and SG is it only at the end of season? Because there was a few times when i first unlocked it that i was in consistent top 15 and didnt get those

Ahhhh okay makes sense

[ionic canyon]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[dark musk]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[timber sphinx]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[tacit smelt]

is this worth it? eorin will be mythic+

[vernal pulsar]

no not randle( he is you main carry early game with ivan) and u have 51 days left, do not use grit till last day

[tacit smelt]

why till last?

[drowsy terrace]

More options to grit with

[tacit smelt]

cant u use it every week tho or is it limited uses?

[drowsy terrace]

4 uses total

1 per week for the first month of playtime on the account

Then goes on for another month

After that you lose it forever

[tacit smelt]

any suggested heroes to use it on?

[drowsy terrace]

Idk who you have bud

Send it sorted by faction

[tacit smelt]

like this?

[barren fjord]

whats my next si30/e30/e60

[drowsy terrace]

Yes, also you dont have anyone worth gritting. We tell new players to wait till the have 8 copies of the same hero or 4 e+ copies, and you dont have any, hence you should wait

[barren fjord]

or do i save my mats for jow

[drowsy terrace]

Biggest boost for you would be ivan si30

[drowsy terrace]

Selene 2nd celehypo?

[barren fjord]

yeah

trying it out bc why not

[drowsy terrace]

Fair enough

[barren fjord]

figured it would do me better early rgm

[drowsy terrace]

Jerome e30

[barren fjord]

any si30s? or just hold

[tacit smelt]

For what reason that many copies btw?

[drowsy terrace]

Hold tbh

[drowsy terrace]

Because that takes them to ascended

Its in fact 10 copies

For the star

Which unlocks their engraving

=term

=terms

[gilded sapphire]

#1469069769058680854

[barren fjord]

yeah thats what i was thinking, probably gonna hold for either envy, or knox si40

[tacit smelt]

so its better to keep normal copies then making them mythic+

[barren fjord]

or envy si 40 idk yet

[tepid totem]

no

[drowsy terrace]

Correct

[river shuttle]

knox si40 much more required than envy

[tacit smelt]

is there a reason for that?

[drowsy terrace]

While you still have grit available it ensures you dont waste food ascending the hero then swapping them to another one later

[barren fjord]

okay so ill just see which i get first, enough mats for knox si40 or envy a1 or mythic wtv

[drowsy terrace]

Once your grit ends its personal preference

[tacit smelt]

i see

[drowsy terrace]

I still find it a wast pf food if you cant take them straight to A

[grim hamlet]

you cant unascend people once you ascend them. You're stuck with that choice. Ascending someone to Mythic (or any tier short of ascended) generally doesn't do a whole lot and then you're stuck with that fodder invested in them. So if you then get a chance to make someone ascended you can't because your fodder is gone.

Or yea, if you want to grit its a lot harder to do so when fodder is also moving between factions

Apparently I was not nearly as close to pcap as I thought

[barren fjord]

envy or lyca

or golem man.

chat im taking envy

[solar fractal]

Envy

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-at-you-gif-15677477317679001616

[barren fjord]

lucilla?

[upper hinge]

Yes

[shy crescent]

There another bundle after this?

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[barren fjord]

man wth is this

thoran cheese in TR 💭💭🫩

[solar fractal]

[barren fjord]

i took all my equipment and furniture off of knox and gave randle ivan and euguene fake 9f just so my mercs can be si30 9f e30 lmao

[inner olive]

loses 300 stability after 1 battle

[barren fjord]

lmao

[inner olive]

fake 9f ?

what is that

[barren fjord]

u give heroes 9 red furn

even if its not theirs, and it counts for mercs

[verbal silo]

Guys should i use lyca in my formation?

[barren fjord]

oh lord this box

[verbal silo]

[barren fjord]

you made way too many people L and mythic

[verbal silo]

So what should i do?

Im already at 24-22

[barren fjord]

i would ask a community support

but, u are gonna really feel that when u get later in, its gonna be a massive wall

[drowsy terrace]

restart, you get better progress in 2 weeks if not 4 days

[verbal silo]

Bro I already restarted like 3 times

[high wigeon]

With Randle def like a week or so

[barren fjord]

😭😭

[drowsy terrace]

yea man, all i can say is, there is no need to ascend heroes just because you can, hell if you must ping me or one of the purple ppl, cause i do go to uni and am not always online, because there are much better ways to progress through campaign

@drifting hemlock buddy, send your hero box

[barren fjord]

yo should i take sung or adrian

[drowsy terrace]

sung

[barren fjord]

yeah thats what i thought cool

[solar fractal]

Read the guide

[verbal silo]

I tried using the guide but i just keep getting stuck in a lot of stages

[drowsy terrace]

that will happen, just shuffle the heroes around or afk

[barren fjord]

whenever that happens, look at any formations that you might share with someone

maybe try and get elthara early, but thats a little luck dependent

man this is a conundrum, athoran is literally garunteed -30 sanity everytime, but doesnt lucius need si40 and like crazy def

[verbal silo]

I already tried getting her in another server but im just too unlucky

[jade crest]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[inner olive]

this is somewhat salvageable but id personally restart

[inner olive]

we getting new highborn draconic hero soon so you can get 50 free dragon insignias

[polar grail]

=40960

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1470386667754881187/Hero_Investment_Notation.png?ex=698b1bcc&is=6989ca4c&hm=358d6d10bff6c0fe9e767c723ef679576177c00e8ff7d0fb657a9f4c78a8e351&

[polar grail]

Trying to find the si 40 priority

[inner olive]

=siprio

[gilded sapphire]

Signature Item Prio Guide:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1008942630199107654

[polar grail]

Thank you

[dry dune]

What should I buy in this évent ?

[grim hamlet]

=exchange

[gilded sapphire]

For exchange events and chests: If there are no special exchanges (DIs, Dragon Reds, Dragon Gear, L Totem card etc.):

• Reds if less than 3 si30s
• Baits before pet reso 18
• Juice post pet reso 18
  Otherwise, ask in chat for more information.

[grim hamlet]

@charred jetty

[barren fjord]

what server r u

maetria or alvida? alvida right?

true, i got to 270ish with shitty si20 3f mercs so im probably gonna be able to do it this run bc i got good mercs this time around

and im at trait lvl 50 with 2 maxed other thingy majigs

[olive jewel]

[barren fjord]

the double sanity one and the less sanity on hero death one

[grim hamlet]

F2p trait usually isn't enough to get 300 for your first one or two rifts tbh

Like you can do it for those, just not auto mode

After that yea, it's easy auto

[barren fjord]

oh yeah whats like the comp nowadays to kill both guild bosses

[willow bison]

[barren fjord]

trizz and soren

not the weekly rotating one

[grim hamlet]

=guildboss

[barren fjord]

yeah i just remember like abel comps being able to do it low levelish

[grim hamlet]

Lame

There's a page for it

[barren fjord]

maybe a max elthara too but no ones gonna give lil ol me a max elthara

[grim hamlet]

But ngl, no one has updated it in a long time

[barren fjord]

i need to join a new guild, im barely getting whites and they really dont do much in terms of guild content

[grim hamlet]

Honestly I'm sure it's just randle and envy

Just tr strats

Elthara seems worse

[barren fjord]

randle knox envy shuna misha or jerome probably

or like ivan

and then owl or something

[grim hamlet]

Not for that team

Ivan I mean

[barren fjord]

how come?

[grim hamlet]

We've got better buffers and neither envy or randle is really energy limited

[barren fjord]

i see

so probably just knox randle envy jerome shuna? or misha idk :p maybe aurelia or daemia ig too

[grim hamlet]

This is basically the universal HFC comp. Aure instead of begris also fine

I'd probably start there personally

I assume that'll work fine

[barren fjord]

oh yeah i wanted to ask, when should i try and craft randle into a vault instead of wings?

[jade crest]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[grim hamlet]

Not unless you're worrying about nc now. It's not used in camp or pvp

[barren fjord]

oh okay cool

[barren fjord]

would u say this is good enough for randle for now? so i can start working on maybe some other collections like an f.atk wings or vault

[dark musk]

Can I barrow someone’s envydiel or awthalia for PoT content? I decided to restart

[grim hamlet]

Not really a randle coll tbh, he wears . Great for Ivan though. And Knox if using him as DPS. And lots of others

[barren fjord]

okay cool

f.atk dodges me so often its annoying

this is my only f.atk one lol

[grim hamlet]

Honestly probably fine. Fatk is pretty low impact per rune. Like 1m vs 2m is a pretty small difference

[barren fjord]

so just throw that one on randle?

or just keep em on the 3m atk one

[grim hamlet]

I mean the 3atk one seems like it would mess things up

Idk the team you're using though

You usually want randle to bond snakes to someone else

[barren fjord]

idk either tbh, i havent even followed a ts guide bc i just dont have anyone really

im just bullshitting my way through until i get selene to 20330

and then maybe ill see wtf im gonna do

[dark musk]

Can I barrow someone’s envydiel or awthalia for PoT content?

[inner olive]

just join a random guild and you'll find a bunch of people with those heroes

[barren fjord]

there was someone who was talking about olympian

how hard is it to get into them

[harsh acorn]

did you restart after returning?

[barren fjord]

yeahp

im on 1185 rn

[grim hamlet]

you're pulling selene already?

[barren fjord]

yeahp, wanted to test it, some people were talking about it, and i think it will get me better results with early rgm, but maybe it bites me in the ass

i have knox 20360 rn, just waiting on whites to get his 40

might swipe, might not, truly who knows

[grim hamlet]

huh

she's kind of just a CR hero tbh

[barren fjord]

little bit of me kinda wished i went envy first instead of ashem

[grim hamlet]

but idk maybe she's more useful early

[barren fjord]

yeah thats what im jus tryna see

and bc idk its kinda fun going out of the norm,

[inner olive]

im pretty sure she's also useful in ts

[barren fjord]

i couldve had selene a1 but lets just say, my brain wasnt working at the time

[grim hamlet]

eh, not really

I have her 20330

I use her with sjw sometimes. But honestly if I just put rem on that team instead my results aren't different enough to distinguish

big account has a 40960 selene but even then she rarely makes the cut

she's very good in CR though

and I imagine small box would use her in NC fine. Shes never really made bis outside of cele buff week sometimes but she's decent and probably a sub option in a number of places for not too much loss

[barren fjord]

idk i just wanted to do something different

do i take scissor hands or tony hawk

[harsh acorn]

if you want a good casual guild, could check out tangeldspore

[harsh acorn]

you can join tangledspore if you wanted a decent casual guild

[barren fjord]

i mean, dont get me wrong i dont think i want a casual guild, i just probably dont have the appeal for a bigger guild rn

[harsh acorn]

tangledspore has 3 guilds. can start casual and move up into a more competitive guild guaranteed as your account grows

[dark musk]

I’ll most likely join it then, I am looking for a somewhat decent guild

How do you apply?

[barren fjord]

okay cool, do you have anyone i can talk to? or is it a join on apply guild

[harsh acorn]

discord link in my profile :)
even if you don't join it, feel free to check out the discord and ask for help. nearly all resources are public

[barren fjord]

gotcha

[dark musk]

❤️

[olive jewel]

[olive jewel]

bud you have to remember to tell people the biggest benefit to joining

[olive jewel]

The dopeys

[cobalt abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084516534434680922/1113257888274727042/ZRKR88CH1QE5NH537R.gif

[olive jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084516534434680922/1113257888274727042/ZRKR88CH1QE5NH537R.gif

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-pufferfish-pufferfish-cat-fish-catfish-gif-9997139051265883971

[shy crescent]

What you guys cash these out for? Glad?

[olive jewel]

[olive jewel]

I save 10 of them in case I need them. But I usually do Lab. They are the most useful to a late game acc like mine

[shy crescent]

Yeah I’m doing that now. Was just wondering what I would eventually do with them

[olive jewel]

Do you have Alna?

that's really the only reason to do glad imo

[harsh acorn]

[olive jewel]

[grim hamlet]

there's always a type of coin you don't want to use in exchange. For early game players its generally . For late game players its . If yo're still on the chall coin phase I'd probably save 10 for the exchange unless it nets you your last copy of orthros/alna, then cash it right away and take the immediate rgm bump. If your on the lab coin phase I'd just cash them, there doesn't seem to be much point in saving them anymore at that phase IMO

actually maybe the line should really be if you can't retire fodder heroes yet

if you can't retire fodder heroes then saving 10 of them is probably a good idea unless you just want to keep 80k at all times. Since those is the hardest to get quickly when you can't retire fodders. If you can retire fodders then none of the coins really cause you any issues, even if you're basically empty coming into the exchange

[charred jetty]

[harsh acorn]

[shy crescent]

It will be Flora for me I think. Looks like she will be my anniversary swap. I will use the chests if it can help me get 1 more copy pre-swap

[grim hamlet]

do you have orthros and alna?

[olive jewel]

It is crazy how much easier hero coins get. I just cleaned out my fodder recently

[grim hamlet]

yea its wild lol

[shy crescent]

I have alna. Orthos is close. I am waiting until he is 9f to finish him.

Orthos for 250k vs Flora for 150k makes me want to get flora copies for when I swap her with selene

[grim hamlet]

I remember hero coins being such an issue. Then the moment you can retire fodder hero coins are a non-issue for all requirements

then of course on gus its just downright silly lol

any time barracks refreshes I just insta buy all the juice. and still have gobs of fodder

and L+ non-fodder heroes to use as fodder lol

[grim hamlet]

Orthros is far more important then selene

why is everyone into selene all the sudden? I don't get it

[hasty flax]

wait this is a thing

[olive jewel]

yeah

[grim hamlet]

Orthros is 100% required for NC and also used in CR. Selene is very good in CR but essentially only useful there

[olive jewel]

75 A heroes to unlock?

is that right

[hasty flax]

let me count, im missing only like 3 heroes per faction at most rn

[grim hamlet]

no its like 55

I've had it for almost a year at this point

[olive jewel]

oh even better

[grim hamlet]

dolphin definitely has it

[olive jewel]

yeah if its 55

[hasty flax]

im at 135?

[grim hamlet]

I unlocked it a year ago at least

you definitely have this option

[hasty flax]

wtf.. I thought only wat to get was to pull heroes

[grim hamlet]

no lol

that's why we don't worry about hero coins

[hasty flax]

bruh I've been using these sparingly for years

i was wondering how yall could afford to buy the juice in the store.... bruh i feel scammed

[olive jewel]

60

just checked

[grim hamlet]

AFter I unlocked that feature I bought all the juice in teh store for like 3 months lol

then I had to switch to ascending garbo heroes again to increase my trunk

[hasty flax]

yeah that's what im doing rn. I think im almost done. What is your RC cap at?

[grim hamlet]

you're almost done? wild. not really that close yet

[hasty flax]

well im at 910, that should be close no?

[grim hamlet]

mine is 825. so maybe?

[hasty flax]

2 lb, 8 mauler (i have the copies for most, just need fodder). 3 wilder, 3 gb

[hasty flax]

i mean a lot of the heroes are celehypos/woke, so just from checking wishlist in tavern, it doesnt seem that far off

@solar fractal do we do randle e60, im at 9000 cores

[quiet folio]

9 copies of dame salmonela but only 2 of mira 😔

[grim hamlet]

7 lb (have copies of all except cecilia), 8 mauler (half of these don't have many copies either), 8 wilder (half of these also pretty short on copies), 8 gb (they all have copies)

[deep tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[olive jewel]

I have 1055 RC cap

[hasty flax]

yeah pretty similar, makes sense whne looking at account age

[hasty flax]

i forgot the whale jacko was also here

[olive jewel]

[hasty flax]

did you see the vault i made earlier today?

[olive jewel]

[torpid sand]

[hasty flax]

idk if i card another ERR. oh nem you sohuld know this

[torpid sand]

Nah 3 is the main breakpoint

Having an extra L is already good enough

[hasty flax]

for real?

[olive jewel]

2 LB 4 Mauler 0 GB and Wilder

[torpid sand]

Bis is +2 with 2 ERR

[olive jewel]

some not A5 though

[hasty flax]

my whale

[olive jewel]

I'm a time whale not a money whale

[torpid sand]

Unless u can afford it comfortably ofc

[hasty flax]

fk me i thoughht ERR was fine without +levels, which is why i even ran this. Everything today has told me the opposite

[torpid sand]

Vault in general really likes levels, flight is the one fine without it

[solar fractal]

Depends on your hits when you get saitama

[torpid sand]

4 err flight is

[hasty flax]

yeah I just seem to remember someone saying "ERR replaces lvl" for vault. This was 1-2 years ago

[solar fractal]

If can get t200 without no need

[torpid sand]

Hmm kind of true

Its more that +2 with 2 err is basically +4

[hasty flax]

i can get saitama too if he weants e60. I cant afford to build another woke for 3 months, and another dragon for 10 months. I could build a new celehypo

[quiet folio]

=grit

[gilded sapphire]

Legacy of Grit Information:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1204202682907230229

[hasty flax]

well fk me. So I just keep it as is, and hope it is useful

[torpid sand]

Yeah, I had a very similar one but I used it sparingly

Its a good err stat stick

[hasty flax]

sadge

at leaset it aint gonna costr me cards

[grim hamlet]

definitely keep that but yea idk how useful itll end up being in practice without the +2

you'll have to try it

case by case basis

[hasty flax]

yeah sadge gamer ngl, i also almost had an insane 3 atk +2 vault run too, until i forgot i didnt use MW on that one either

[grim hamlet]

btw did you see I got 234.5b this CR?

[hasty flax]

yeah you are crazy sexy

[grim hamlet]

1 oath mark

[hasty flax]

+2B on pippa?

[grim hamlet]

I mathed it out, even without that boost it would've been my first 230b

but just barely then lol

[solar fractal]

He doesn’t

[torpid sand]

U could check my cr/nc ss for extremely outdated comps and see if I used my err vault

[hasty flax]

my lil whale

[solar fractal]

Who you calling little

[olive jewel]

this is my WL

[grim hamlet]

I have an err vault, I use it a fair amount

usually on lava

[solar fractal]

Why not just put fodders lol

[grim hamlet]

clear out spaces

[solar fractal]

Instead of 5 star hero’s

[grim hamlet]

if you have an extra copy of a 5* hero get anohter

then you can use them

[inner olive]

0 copies of gorok ?

[hasty flax]

casual

[olive jewel]

they are basically fodder tho anyway

[torpid sand]

Yeah I used mine on lava too iirc

[solar fractal]

Huh

[inner olive]

what

[grim hamlet]

its what I do on gus lol

and also what I was doing on cc for a bit

[solar fractal]

But you can sell fodders for extra space

[grim hamlet]

now I've got all the people I don't have 8 copies of on

[olive jewel]

It doesnt show ascension level until A5

my Gorok is A2

[grim hamlet]

1 copy of a 5* hero is just dead space. if you get a second one then you have another E+ of fodder

[solar fractal]

Huh

[grim hamlet]

like its basically just slightly more valuable then a regular fodder hero once you have 1 from a purple stone

since fodder heroes you get all the time and make out of blues

but to make your 1 copy of Trish or w/e into something you can use you have to actually pull another

[torpid sand]

Nvm just noticed both ss channels are archived

[inner olive]

what is bro doing

[solar fractal]

Or you can just..

@mods is this ok

[inner olive]

@mods

nice

[grim hamlet]

yea I mean space isn't a huge issue. its more just like a trish copy makes something useless into somehting useful. A hogan copy can be gotten other ways

[torpid sand]

[grim hamlet]

if you already have 1 trish anyway

[torpid sand]

Err got gapped by DR and HP

[solar fractal]

37s in this economy with new bosses is lowkey fast

[inner olive]

buddy

how many times is bro gonna do that

[torpid sand]

#1156261155543711744 message

Yeah in nc I only used +2 vaults by the looks of it

I'll check cr

[grim hamlet]

Err flight is a coll that is on the niche checklist I think

err +0 vault is probably about the same?

maybe not in pvp. in cr probably same just maybe a bit more rng

i have no idea where that coll is actually used though. or if it still is

[harsh acorn]

Holy old

[torpid sand]

#1156261116905787402 message

[harsh acorn]

When did woutters leave tangledspore?

[torpid sand]

When he had a scuffle with Casual a couple days ago

[grim hamlet]

@solar fractal you exiled wou? explain yourself

[torpid sand]

Casual said theres no excuse for not going to the gym, which set Wout off cos he had a very good excuse

[inner olive]

i have ashem mythic and 200 TE should i get another woke to mythic or save for A0 ashem

[grim hamlet]

A0 ashem

well A1 ashem but you can do the star with sgs

[solar fractal]

He killed my grandma

[inner olive]

dude

[solar fractal]

But disclaimer he didn’t leave because of me

[torpid sand]

Prime nem was op

[olive jewel]

<@&545792117956673538>

[solar fractal]

Lier

[olive jewel]

spoon

[torpid sand]

Thought u were the catalyst

[olive jewel]

this seems sus

[inner olive]

OH MODERATORS

[solar fractal]

Mayhaps

[harsh acorn]

Sir…

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1258469606603882529.webp?size=96&animated=true

[grim hamlet]

I was trying to figure out how many times they had done that but its hard to search for

idk if this is actually against our rules right now though. kind of an odd situation. If they are saying nothing else though then they seem like they are just being a nuisance which is an offense

[torpid sand]

Ain't no way they haven't blocked applications in this channel lmao

[solar fractal]

That’s why I didn’t know if I should ping mods

[torpid sand]

This symbol is a bannable offence

[solar fractal]

Am actually scared of mei they have been threatening of banning me :monka:

[grim hamlet]

I guess I can confirm they have not said anything in this server except to launch apps

[harsh acorn]

[jolly gulch]

[grim hamlet]

so seems like they are trolling at best

[solar fractal]

NOOO

🏃‍♂️ 💨 💨 💨 💨

[grim hamlet]

bye casual

[torpid sand]

Hi mei

[jolly gulch]

Thing is, blocking apps I would assume would block some of the bots commands

[solar fractal]

B-but I was supposed to be cs

[jolly gulch]

But I’m unsure and don’t feel like testing on my phone

[torpid sand]

Nah, launching applications only blocks activities

[solar fractal]

So is wordle bannable?

[jolly gulch]

Is it gone now

[torpid sand]

Bot commands are separate I believe

[jolly gulch]

[torpid sand]

Yep

No permission to use activities

[solar fractal]

Damn

[olive jewel]

There is a wordle channel for this purpose

[torpid sand]

=restarting

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[torpid sand]

Bot still works

[grim hamlet]

that's too bad. if the bot didn't work after that then obviously we all would've pinged nem to respond with a link or an image for a while

[torpid sand]

Ty mei

[grim hamlet]

that would've been fun

[torpid sand]

[solar fractal]

@torpid sand =.guide

[torpid sand]

I'll bring back the unlimited summons screenshot

[solar fractal]

Nem doesn’t work for me

[olive jewel]

classic OS lore

[jolly gulch]

Hm.

[solar fractal]

Maybe it’s glitched?

[jolly gulch]

I changed for everything so idk if the Wordle channel is also gonna be borked

[torpid sand]

#wordle-discussion

[grim hamlet]

noooo my wordle

[jolly gulch]

Just lmk

I’ll fix it

[torpid sand]

Yeah its cooked in there

Will need to manual override that

[grim hamlet]

[solar fractal]

Your welcome to continue on fs

[jolly gulch]

How bout now

[torpid sand]

traumatising good memories

[grim hamlet]

still says failed for me

[torpid sand]

Nope

[jolly gulch]

Ugh

[torpid sand]

[jolly gulch]

Okay try again

[grim hamlet]

works

ty

[olive jewel]

I guess there is only one solution. Start a Clues By Sam channel

[jolly gulch]

Mkay anything stupid happens I’ll see you again soon

Bye to everyone except Casual

[hasty flax]

byebye meiemi

[inner olive]

they did it 3 times exactly

[barren fjord]

look whos returned

anyways swolise right?

[hexed mulch]

guys is the elder tree guide saying to get 47 ranger, and THEN get 77 support?

isn't support lowkey better to get first?

[drowsy terrace]

that guide is out of date

[barren fjord]

elder tree mightve changed tbh

yeah exactly

[drowsy terrace]

tbh im too busy to spend the time to update it

[olive jewel]

guide is kinda old. ranger is the strongest branch but there are not good early game ranger carries rn

[drowsy terrace]

i also dont have an early game acc

[hexed mulch]

ah i see, should i just switch ranger and support order?

[drowsy terrace]

supp then mage

[olive jewel]

so you can ignore celerity branch until you get like Sion and Envy online

[hexed mulch]

thanks

[hexed mulch]

alr alr

[harsh acorn]

[inner olive]

should i reset everything and put everything into support

[harsh acorn]

=tree

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Elder Tree

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994914542440173688

[drowsy terrace]

buster its outdated

[inner olive]

literally 5 messages above it says that guide is outdated

[harsh acorn]

Wasn’t it updated 1/3 of this year?

[olive jewel]

you want to keep sust and sorc close

too high of a supp tree can break things

[inner olive]

what does that mean

sust and sorc

[olive jewel]

you want sustenance (Support) and Sorcery (mage) to be kept near the same level

[inner olive]

oh ok

[drowsy terrace]

eh, i lowkey forgot about my emjoi thing

dont even remember who i copied it from

[inner olive]

everything else can be lower and nothing gets broken ?

[olive jewel]

sust sustenance support
sorc sorcery mage
cele celerity ranger
fort fortitude tank
might might warrior

[drowsy terrace]

[olive jewel]

yeah should be fine

especially with a tree that small

[harsh acorn]

Ignore warrior and tank at beginning. I’d say focus support/mage to 25 and then follow with ranger

[inner olive]

alr

[olive jewel]

I feel like you might as well go 27

[inner olive]

what changes between 25 and 27 ?

[harsh acorn]

What stat break was 27? I have to reset my tree to check

25 you get the ability iirc. Isn’t 27 just percent stats?

[olive jewel]

until 107 every level ending with 2 or 7 gives a substat, so they are more valuable

[olive jewel]

I just subscribe to the "only end on 2s and 7s" belief

IDK the specific stat I just think it's worth

[harsh acorn]

They do?

[drowsy terrace]

i put it in the faq

+tree

[harsh acorn]

I’m pretty sure it’s not every 2/7, just some of them

[drowsy terrace]

=tree

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Elder Tree

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994914542440173688

[drowsy terrace]

should be that pic before my emoji's

[olive jewel]

IDK it was always the advice when I was new

maybe it doesnt start until past a certain level

[drowsy terrace]

for certain classes yes

warriors always get an acc buff i believe

[harsh acorn]

2 = 3 haste
12 = 3 haste
22 = 3 haste
For supp tree. No other stats for 27 besides % gain.

Every 2 = 3 haste
7 appears to be nothing until 47 iirc.

[harsh acorn]

For mage, 17 gives dodge!

But 7 stats for supp/mage don’t seem to be important

2 is important for ranger as well. Nothing at 7

[solar fractal]

Chat am cooked

[olive jewel]

yes

[harsh acorn]

Is this a good sign?

[olive jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27687032

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-die-post-this-cat-to-die-a-slow-and-painful-death-die-instantly-kitten-gif-26599068

[steep stream]

[olive jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-biting-tail-explosion-cute-funny-gif-441070498682892579

[cobalt abyss]

bud i think you’re getting krilled soon

[solar fractal]

Am already dead😭

[hexed mulch]

I feel like it would be a good idea to add (outdated) or something similiar to the name of the guides when the information becomes kinda irrelevant

until its updated at least

[autumn gull]

agreed @charred jetty are you of status to do such things?

[solar fractal]

Nope

[solar fractal]

You can always ask if it’s outdated or not

[hexed mulch]

yeah you guys do actually answer, but just for convenience

[tribal schooner]

ngl this number really loves me.

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813039731943800853.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=angelAlikeummm&lossless=true

[tribal schooner]

6️⃣ 9️⃣ fella

[tepid raft]

Hi peeps

[dire kayak]

?help

[muted anchor]

lmaooooo what did you do

[solar fractal]

No idea

[muted anchor]

spit it out

[solar fractal]

I swear idk

[muted anchor]

i need the tea

[solar fractal]

[charred jetty]

uh we usually do

so there's a difference between outdated and there's a new theory

for the latter we keep the guides up for people who want to refer to the tried and true progression path

once we've tested the new theory thoroughly and the guide council is unanimous about the change, then we update the guide

until then the prescribed way will be the previous tried and true route

an example of that is we are discussing fawkes first woke rn, but ashem will be the prescribed guide until that gets passed

[oak stirrup]

All guides are in essence, do it at your own risk

[olive jewel]

Who do we actually have testing the Fawkes first thing? ZxW alt and like one other?

[oak stirrup]

Guide tierlist
0 - Tailored guide from someone who understands you (for example: mentor with deep bond), who truly cares about your wellbeing and progression
1 - Inhouse guides from competitive guilds (requires special access most of the time)
2 - Public guides from competitive guilds + Official discord approved, pinned guides (tried and true optimised, low risk methods, but not most efficient rank progression)
3 - Dark info from people you generally can rely on (may give you the 'shortcut' for rank progression but often comes with risk)
$#@&$%*(@ - Reddit guides from rando unqualified scrubs

[olive jewel]

btw Kisaka

[olive jewel]

[oak stirrup]

Don't worry I couldn't achieve it either, only 247

R2 just doesn't work without 409E60 Tavriel

If I had that as well alt would be back to top 200

[pulsar marlin]

If we still care about nc wawkes can get a kill pretty easily

[oak stirrup]

That's a third world problem though

[olive jewel]

I would have had like 235b if I had Elthara or Skylan

[oak stirrup]

Who did you merc anyway?

[olive jewel]

But I had one round stuck on 34b

[pulsar marlin]

If oddy truly scales unlimited

I think he’s gonna break cr really badly

[olive jewel]

Velu. Needed a big one with big coll for r6 40b

[oak stirrup]

You probably get 41b on Elthara round with the meta collection

[olive jewel]

my velu just couldn't do r6

[oak stirrup]

Okay I was wrong turns out 5MP is mandatory for top level play