classic-questions

[winter halo]

[charred jetty]

DSA is just flat mult

sadly it's not hyperbolic like atk

would hyperbolic be the best way to describe the scaling of atk on effective damage?

it's like truncus, but the trunk part

or no...

[pulsar marlin]

Isn’t it better if it’s flat multi since attacks formula kinda skewed

[charred jetty]

idk

[charred jetty]

no atk is hyper-linear

quick guide

[pulsar marlin]

Is that why envy does like 20 q damage

Cuz he steals a shitload of everything

[charred jetty]

random vibe code app go

https://gemini.google.com/share/0ac54e1e83ca

[charred jetty]

he scales off enemy

envy is strong because he has built in tasi cheese

but the actual reason why envy does 20q damage is because of randle

[pulsar marlin]

How did my goat wawkes scale past that

[charred jetty]

I suspect envy has a cap to the amount of stolen stats

which is why he starts to timeout later on in campaign (hence why I dropped him lol)

it's like the daimon thing

[pulsar marlin]

I mean it’s stated in his skills

[charred jetty]

idk if you were here when daimon was meta

[pulsar marlin]

His attack cap is 60%

[charred jetty]

but it's like he steals atk, then uses the stolen atk to steal more atk

[pulsar marlin]

His AS cap is 80

And his damage dealt buff is also 80

[charred jetty]

no no I mean like as a proportion of his own stats

[pulsar marlin]

Every time he steals he can only steal up to 60% of his own stat

It’s not like daimon who steals base off enemy attack

Unless there’s a hidden mechanic

[charred jetty]

ok wow this app is so jank

but anyways

when enemies have huge DEF compared to your ATK (aka campaign), %increase in atk scales much faster than linearly

[pulsar marlin]

So dsa counts as what

[charred jetty]

same is actually true when deficit is not super high, just not as extreme

[pulsar marlin]

Flat multi

[charred jetty]

DS ignores DEF

so it's just true damage

[pulsar marlin]

Oh so it’s just giga broken

[charred jetty]

which is why heroes like elthara and wei and co are so broken in campaign

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah huh

[charred jetty]

because they don;t get crushed by 700 deficit of DEF

[tepid raft]

Whos a sion replacement in ts hes killing my rank

[pulsar marlin]

How does cr defense work

[pulsar marlin]

Skylan

[charred jetty]

like if you look at elthara's numbers, yeah they're pretty good, but nothing screams "I ainz nuke them at 700 deficit"

[tepid raft]

I have him in a team already

[charred jetty]

but she absolutely ainz nukes them at 700 deficit

anyways

[pulsar marlin]

How exactly does cr enrage work

[charred jetty]

DS is very good against DEF, but the problem is because it ignores DEF, buffing it just scales it linearly

20% more DSA is just 20% more effective DS

because DSA is proportional to DS

[pulsar marlin]

So 1.1k dsa is

[charred jetty]

just 1100%

[pulsar marlin]

Hmm that’s good

[charred jetty]

but as true damage

1.1k is not crazy good

[pulsar marlin]

Cuz even tho oddy has low multis

[charred jetty]

it's pretty good, but probably won't reach ainz nuke status

[pulsar marlin]

He truly scales infinitely

[charred jetty]

a good comparison is haelia ult

409e60 haelia's ult is around 800 DS

[pulsar marlin]

With like 100 stacks

[charred jetty]

now haelia's ult is pretty good damage in camp, but it's not that crazy

[pulsar marlin]

His buffs are 1.1k dsa 2000% normal attack damage and like 2000% extra ds damage

[void valley]

Shalltear garrison

[charred jetty]

wait what do you mean stacks

[pulsar marlin]

And since his maul counts as ds

[pulsar marlin]

Kinetic stacks infinitely

As long as they remain within the range of the maul he doesn’t have a cap on kinetic stacks

[charred jetty]

idk how DSA scales with damage dealt increase

[charred jetty]

oh my

bro

brooooooo

wait hang on

[pulsar marlin]

Pls find me the cap on his kinetic stacks themselves

[charred jetty]

well actually idk if he will be better than envy in TR though

envy is kinda hard to beat, even if you have the randle stack

[tepid raft]

What's highest possible without money

[charred jetty]

I am definitely th wrong guy to ask

I don't even know who is the boss of NC r5

just get oddy

you will get t50

[tepid raft]

Hmmmm you could try this one sec

[pulsar marlin]

I think this is pretty important

Cuz un he buffs himself by 40% per stack

So if it’s multiplicative he’s gonna be effectively like close to 20k dsa

[charred jetty]

nah it's definitely additive

[tepid raft]

Sorry that was r4

[charred jetty]

I don't think he's out here just ramping up 20% extra damage per stack for infinite stacks

that would be...

quite the systematic failure

[pulsar marlin]

Even if it’s additive

[charred jetty]

[tepid raft]

@drifting hemlock have you tried this

[pulsar marlin]

He’s gonna do like 1.1k dsa+700% extra dsa damage and 400% extra normal damage

[tepid raft]

Ohhhhhh sorry my guy my bad

Try twins

[grave hollow]

168 u welcome

[north vault]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

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[grave hollow]

How much u spent already dedbud

[north vault]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

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[tepid raft]

Will sion sig 40 help this a lot in 3yrs when i have enough resources

[olive jewel]

[tepid raft]

Hes selling like a mfer its pissing me off

Misha e60 worth it im saving for saitama

[grave hollow]

Bitch i slapped u @drifting hemlock

[tepid raft]

Okay so i shouldnt wait for saitama

Is it normal for ts rank to bounce around in early stages

Or do i just suck

[pulsar marlin]

Where the fuck is ur skylan

[tepid raft]

Fairs i do suck @drifting hemlock

[tepid raft]

409e60

[olive jewel]

[tepid raft]

Oops im illiterate

[pulsar marlin]

My seal is throwing

[tepid raft]

Why not pegasus

Even at 21 my pegasus is better than 18 seal by a wide margin

Aaaaaaaaaaaand i am using seal cause im stupid as hell

[pulsar marlin]

Bud I don’t have 21 pepega

[tepid raft]

Whale

[pulsar marlin]

My pepega is 16

[tepid raft]

Whale it lol hes a beast

[pulsar marlin]

No bunny deals are ass, and I need to whale new hb

[olive jewel]

y not both

[charred jetty]

fawkes time

[olive jewel]

Fawkes did amazing things for my seal team

[tepid raft]

Cause only one pet per team

[olive jewel]

but you have several teams

[inland vigil]

JD what was the comp for your Anti Tasi - Skri Selene?

[olive jewel]

hi ulrich

[inland vigil]

Allo dopeyman

[tepid raft]

I dont have several stall teams though

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-16869854275207633625

Although maybe new wilder changes that

Icariel
Umbriel
Myra
Talene
Shaltear
???? Thoughts @olive jewel

[harsh acorn]

For Ts?

[tepid raft]

Yeah as a stall team for seal or pegasus

[olive jewel]

you can just use pony on a non stall team

[tepid raft]

Oh okay

[olive jewel]

I didnt see any

[harsh acorn]

Is there a reason you don’t use Knox/thoran?

[tepid raft]

Oh sorry this was as a 2nd stall team

Ahhhh instead of shaltear use alvida

[harsh acorn]

What does your first stall team look like?

[tepid raft]

Im just talking nonsense right now but its this

Ik ik sion isnt built enough

[harsh acorn]

What rank is this?

[charred jetty]

just fawkes

and alvida40

that's all

[tepid raft]

Sorry cant say it jumps between 50 and 80

[olive jewel]

frontline Fawkes?

[tepid raft]

Why not he gets health buff from thoran right

[olive jewel]

idk I just usually prefer him back

[tepid raft]

Ahhhh fair enough my guy

[harsh acorn]

T100 though right?

[tepid raft]

74 right now

[harsh acorn]

Not using your Skylan here as well?

[tepid raft]

I made the adjustment a few mins ago sorry idk why i wasnt lol

[harsh acorn]

That’s ok lol, no need for any apologies or anything

[tepid raft]

I gotta stop making foolish mistakes lol

Its like its all i do lately

[olive jewel]

Alright goodnight chat

[tepid raft]

Goodnight big fella

Lol

Switched seal to pony on my stall team hopefully boosts me a little

[harsh acorn]

For T1, I would use your L copy of Elth in place of flora. Her burst dmg before and after she dies is insane.

For T2, I’d change to alna Skylan with wyca, Gorok, Velu

For T3, I’d swap out cha (essentially useless in Ts because too squishy). You don’t have albedo 30 for her useful effect so Westy frontline will be good.

[tepid raft]

Whos sp though westy or shem

[harsh acorn]

You could also put westy in Skylan and another useful hero in Shem.

[harsh acorn]

West > Shem

[tepid raft]

Okay thanks

[harsh acorn]

You should aim for t50 Ts probably. Your nc will be cooked while you build your collections over time so I’d say focus on some PvP/multi-rgm invests for now.

[tepid raft]

Okie dokie thanks i ranked 63 last season in ts

[harsh acorn]

Yeah I was looking at your checkup! You’ll do really well if you can set some strong teams. Take a look at the thread https://discord.com/channels/1156143679149461544/1346211358642802708 if you need any inspiration on what others are finding successful

[tepid raft]

Thanks very much

Stupid game crashed

[pulsar marlin]

God damn I need to build zohra and whel new hb

[tepid raft]

Awakened lyca is dog poop in tower fricking hell

Yeah well she doesnt lol

She can be anorexic before i do all that

[pulsar marlin]

Swap midca for maetria trust

You have zohra right

[tepid raft]

i struggled to get 1 more lvl just to beat one stage and get instantly powercapped

[pulsar marlin]

If you do unironically you should swap midca for maetria

Midca doesn’t contribute to nc anymore

[tepid raft]

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-crazy-family-guy-fou-gif-11775947423386520412

[pulsar marlin]

And Mae makes zohra team really really good

[tepid raft]

I am swapping eugene for zorha if we get swap

Anyone wanna play magic the gathering with me

[grim hamlet]

[tepid raft]

Screw this game man........congrats though

[grim hamlet]

Oh lol

Apparently my server is kind of dead now if I'm in first

[charred jetty]

[eternal glade]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

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[pearl otter]

Does aFawkes want si 40

[tepid raft]

Doesnt need it but wants it imo

[pearl otter]

Thanks

[tepid raft]

Welcome

[pulsar marlin]

Ideally yes

It also depends on your current progress

[queen edge]

his si40 is so fire bro

[full harbor]

Poosh @charred jetty

[hasty flax]

hi

[cinder zealot]

@full harbor

[shell spoke]

Any suggestion?

[shell spoke]

Current team Is palmer, grezul, Hawk guy, Mermaid and wukong

[main jackal]

I have Envy AShem AEstri APippa AFawkes who’s next?

[full harbor]

Draken u sexy motherducker

[cinder zealot]

How you been sexy

[full harbor]

Im good

Hru ?

[cinder zealot]

Good good

[oak stirrup]

Just cram like 20 RC levels you get to 60 or something

[muted anchor]

472 prolly

[muted anchor]

Bbg

[solar fractal]

So you be calling anyone bbg these days

wow

[muted anchor]

Nah hes big bro gragon

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813039731943800853.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=angelAlikeummm&lossless=true

[muted anchor]

You're the only baby gurl for me

[solar fractal]

That’s what I thought

[muted anchor]

[solar fractal]

[tepid totem]

nice

[muted anchor]

What mercs you need this week bbg

[solar fractal]

Just Levi

[muted anchor]

Okay

[oak stirrup]

How many more days until Saitama unlocks

[real bay]

What’s the priority here I can’t find any guides ?

Hildwin?

Thank you

[open oyster]

Thanks

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-slap-slap-gif-19673186

That wasn’t for you

[autumn gull]

TE > Bait > SG for pre reso 18

no hildwin

[tepid totem]

my hild is nearly five stars

[charred jetty]

I'm literally stuck

It's so terrible

78-22 was like 708b

78-23 is like 745b

[full harbor]

Stuck or suck....im confused

[charred jetty]

[full harbor]

[charred jetty]

but also dude

[cinder zealot]

The old man's around damn

[charred jetty]

I can literally auto the multis now

as soon as I get power to start a multi, just autobattle and it just clears

no need to look at comps

[charred jetty]

wow long time no see

[cinder zealot]

How you been JD

[charred jetty]

I've quit and come back since the last time we talked

[full harbor]

U need power for multis ?

[charred jetty]

well power to reach multis

[cinder zealot]

Yessir I just be stopping in randomly every time I leave servers but I like sticking in this one to see the old names

[charred jetty]

[cinder zealot]

Yea was curious if you were back

[charred jetty]

I think the game is more fun when you are loosely keeping up with the news

maybe you should come back for some IJ the next time we have one

[cinder zealot]

Idk I saw "woke pets" earlier fuck that

[charred jetty]

I think it's a great chance to reunite with some old friends

[cinder zealot]

maybe maybe

[charred jetty]

woke pets are probably the most p2w friendly thing in the game

[cinder zealot]

My account is long gone

[charred jetty]

as in, very good for very cheap, so very hostile to f2ps

[cinder zealot]

Icic

[charred jetty]

I think it's still being run well

but yeah IJ don't need account

[cinder zealot]

It is yea

[charred jetty]

you can be ch2 or ch78, no difference

you don't bring anything into the gamemode

[cinder zealot]

Ah bet

[charred jetty]

but only if you like campaign though :sip

[cinder zealot]

Maybe I'm down toss me a ping when it's around fk it

[charred jetty]

pretty chill gamemode, fast paced stage progression basically

[charred jetty]

[cinder zealot]

Glad to see your still around

[pulsar marlin]

It was like 300 to get bunny 27 from reso 18 right

[charred jetty]

I'm biased, but I think it's the most well-received event we've had for a long long time

[cinder zealot]

[charred jetty]

like 250

which is like, less than a woke

[pulsar marlin]

Icic

[charred jetty]

but it lasts for much longer

if I didn't have to do perk 4, I would have done pony 27

[pulsar marlin]

Well hope next pet broken

[vivid wolf]

jd i got a question

[charred jetty]

purely f2p ofc

[charred jetty]

ok

[cinder zealot]

Roxsta 🍻

[vivid wolf]

what do you call a soldier with no legs?

[charred jetty]

idk

[vivid wolf]

arm-y

[cinder zealot]

[charred jetty]

[vivid wolf]

cheers

[cinder zealot]

[charred jetty]

smokes and beer

[cinder zealot]

Smokes don't count when drunk

[charred jetty]

.

[cinder zealot]

Probably ai frfr

[river shuttle]

[cinder zealot]

Looks fake

[river shuttle]

i agree

[swift meadow]

Goals for today

[lament torrent]

=tierlist

[gilded sapphire]

Looking for a Tierlist?

Tierlists are generally quite untrustworthy in this game, because there's too many nuances and different factors that make certain heroes good or bad for different accounts. As a general guide, use the links below:

• 4 Faction Heroes: =wishlist
• Celestials/Hypogeans: #994913771598389318 message
• Awakened Heroes: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
• Dragons/HB: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235, But generally avoid them in the early game

[cinder zealot]

Why is that a command? 😭 Search tier list to tell you they are shit

[charred jetty]

Hey it works

I like to use it to quickly bring up all the prio guides

[cinder zealot]

Ain't broke don't fix it ahh solution I respect it

Should take away slow mode for mythics 🫣

[tranquil coral]

Never

https://tenor.com/view/baby-stray-kids-lololwruz-gif-7322497895326594045

[cinder zealot]

Would be so cool of you spoon good ol buddy ol pal

[solar fractal]

Remove slow mode for me

[river shuttle]

no

[tranquil coral]

Bet

[solar fractal]

Nice

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-slap-slap-gif-19673186

[river shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/violence-i-crave-inhumane-levels-of-violence-gif-11157958922419367357

[vivid wolf]

this is why i stopped reading

[autumn gull]

reading is bad for the soul

[vivid wolf]

only when it involves alcohol

[autumn gull]

beer + book is literally the #1 pass time

not reading the book, just using it as a coaster

[jaunty plume]

=ratio

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[last patrol]

Who should I pick

Zorath or orthros

Huh

[solar fractal]

=guide

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[last patrol]

Yes it’s the choice box

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994908234135646268

[elfin gulch]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

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[last patrol]

Ok

[elfin gulch]

when do you stop pulling/choosing graveborn faction heroes, when you one star both randle nd ivan?

okay, tysm

[grim hamlet]

Who you making

[brazen crypt]

Why is my collection krep changing into different collection

[jaunty plume]

was trying to find a way around only having 400 reds 150whites for kaelon but no can do

[grim hamlet]

Is this prep for new hb or do you have a kae that's just chilling unbuilt lol

[elfin gulch]

should i e30 randle and ivan?

[raw ore]

i have enough fodder to ascend 1 GB, i have 8 copies of silas, 10 of lady simona, 16 of bronn or 8 of hodgkin, im assuming either lady S or Bronn since they are part of the 5 original GB on the wishlist

i still have 30 days on my grit if that makes a diff

[brazen crypt]

Okay thank you

[cosmic fulcrum]

How much did you play and are you f2p?

[elfin gulch]

around 2-3 weeks, and yeah complete f2p

why?

[cosmic fulcrum]

just want to get on your level

[raw ore]

=engrave

[gilded sapphire]

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[cosmic fulcrum]

😄

[elfin gulch]

wow, never thought id hear that. tbh im still on the “beginner side” ngl

i suggest following the =guide

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[cosmic fulcrum]

yeah I'm following it just thinking how much it would take

[elfin gulch]

it depends on how much time you spend on it ig, since in early game theres a lot to do

[cosmic fulcrum]

i would say enough

[elfin gulch]

yeah js try to enjoy the game and ask questions here if you dont get something

[cosmic fulcrum]

İt's like this on my second day

[cosmic fulcrum]

yeah thanks buddy

[dark musk]

Finally I beat 33-12

[raw ore]

i think i got stuck on that for a while, not im pretty much stuck on 34-32

[eternal glade]

=40960

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[foggy pewter]

It's okay to use 1 or wait for 10 or discount(if we get any)?

[wraith fjord]

@muted anchor you going for flowers again
And can I get santi again

[muted anchor]

Nah this time is printy

[raw ore]

i have enough fodder to ascend 1 GB, i have 8 copies of silas, 10 of lady simona, 16 of bronn or 8 of hodgkin, im assuming either lady S or Bronn since they are part of the 5 original GB on the wishlist

[tepid totem]

will the new hb be strong

[wraith fjord]

Dam not going for rank 1 flowers again

[cosmic fulcrum]

Should i auto ascend?

[hasty flax]

yes

[grim hamlet]

Wait. And we always get discount

[foggy pewter]

Thanks

[muted anchor]

Im broke

[waxen kraken]

stargazing guide says to get 1 copy of lysander after AAthalia is 30360, but also says to get E copy after Knox is M. Is it still worth to get the E copy even if i dont have AAthalia?

[autumn gull]

nah, not really

[grim hamlet]

Santi?

[autumn gull]

he’s good in a team with knox though, it does get recommended

just check what others use at the stage you’re at

if you start seeing him in most comps you prob need him

but focus ascending knox imo

[waxen kraken]

okay will do thank you a lot!!

most people still only using randle team1 and elthara team2 so i think i will save for now

[raw ore]

according to earlymulti knox is used as a 4th team along with lysander which is campaign 36 i think? (im on 34 and still using 3 teams)

=earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1444410826961322146/8v0Ga9h.png?ex=692c9be9&is=692b4a69&hm=16420762014c1675ddadad22154602562ffb94068ae6bb51648f888bebdb0421&

[cosmic fulcrum]

=guide

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[autumn gull]

sounds about right!

[river shuttle]

you can use knox lys as 3rd team aswell if you have him a1 with e60 already but 4 teams will start at ch35 and 5 teams at ch36

[cosmic fulcrum]

I don't fully understand the ascension

Shouldn't I ascend elite heroes and use them

[raw ore]

i need another 6 copies of knox to a1 🙁

[winged crest]

im at ch39, would a single copy of elthara still benefit me?

[autumn gull]

what do you mean?

[elfin gulch]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1423503305476149308/image0.jpg?ex=68e08c43&is=68df3ac3&hm=80cbdf44255b205632a05735ac169ba19f38198b6d4ab3ce447c068f0a1b4726&

[autumn gull]

i wouldn’t pull it for campaign only, but it’s also strong for TS in seal or burst comps and occasionally one copy finds use in NC/CR so i’d say it’d worth it

[cosmic fulcrum]

The guide says ascend fodder heroes until level 160 but i don't get when i can ascend the other elite heroes

[raw ore]

when you have 10 copies, sometimes 8

do the single copies to elite, so you need 4/5 copies before you bother ascending them again

[cosmic fulcrum]

the fodders?

[raw ore]

no the fodders go to legendary

all the others stay at elite+ until you have usualy 5 copies, sometimes 4

=ascend

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994908234135646268

[autumn gull]

the idea is to wait as long as possible to ascend regular elite heroes, so you don’t “waste” fodders

[cosmic fulcrum]

Okay thanks

should i use auto ascend?

[autumn gull]

no, it can mess up your ascending

[raw ore]

So when you are ascending any heroes, only use the "fodders"

[cosmic fulcrum]

thanks

[raw ore]

Isn't auto ascend fine and its the smart that can mess up your ascending, ie the auto only ascends copies of the same hero, smart is the one that mixes to get the fodder to elite

[cosmic fulcrum]

🤨 so do i use it or not?

[autumn gull]

oh yea i meant smart, auto ascend is fine

[raw ore]

The one with the green on the icon is the one that can mess up

[autumn gull]

you need two of the same fodders E+ to get them to L+ and smart ascend can mess that up

[cosmic fulcrum]

Alright

I'm starting a new account right now, should i save my diamonds for dragon isle and just use my scrolls or just use them all

[raw ore]

you dont touch dragon isle with diamonds

=diamonds

[gilded sapphire]

Diamond Priorities:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1139293511695482972

[cosmic fulcrum]

okay

[grim hamlet]

Yea. You must wait until it's the only thing you spend diamonds on

[cosmic fulcrum]

is this a good account as an reroll or should i just reroll for copies of one character

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[cosmic fulcrum]

Okay

[cosmic fulcrum]

What heroes should i use as a team here? @drifting hemlock

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1470865676133466318/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=698cd9e8&is=698b8868&hm=8b645e46d785bb2fd51af1d9919dce3d58354f2f56bffdf01cd68b687899bc5a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1210&height=726

[raw ore]

i have enough fodder to ascend 1 GB, i have 8 copies of silas, 10 of lady simona, 16 of bronn or 8 of hodgkin, i also have 30 days left of my grit, should i bother ascending any?

[boreal minnow]

Hi, I am an old player and I still have my swap scroll. For which hero should I use my swap scroll?

[river shuttle]

what does this have to do with ur age :p

[boreal minnow]

🤣 *OG player

[raw ore]

inb4 reroll

[river shuttle]

xDD sdhow ur box

[open oyster]

I'm ready for hp warrior

[open oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-discord-tenni-tennis-gif-1852392060093005411

[grim hamlet]

That is definitely a coll

[autumn gull]

my man PLEASE stop pulling gb scrolls you have 16 bronns 😭😭😭

[solar fractal]

=restarting

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[solar fractal]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[winged crest]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[upper hinge]

do i exchange for red chests in the event

[timber cedar]

i think red chests until you get 3 si30s or something. then you go baits

[tender prairie]

Which Awakened and Celepo should I upgrade first ? Here is my box
Just got to chapter 16

[winged crest]

baits? wouldnt the celehypo copies be more worth?

[winged crest]

probably ashem and liberta

[tender prairie]

Okayy thanks !

[winged crest]

not 100% sure about liberta tho

but ashem you can safely go for

[tender prairie]

Okayyy

[spark storm]

Should I draw ashem? I don’t have any copy of her. I have 80 emblems

[solar fractal]

Hi

[dapper gate]

no maetria no elhara how i fix this zohra team

[pale barn]

Do woke pets only start to cost bait to level up post 18?

[timber cedar]

not really, i always go for baits bc a) I have all the basic celehypos, b) according to the diamond value its more better to take baits. I read it up on a guide, not exactly sure how they calculated that

[grim hamlet]

No. The hero copies are always terrible value in these exchanges. There's no point in the game when that's the optimal choice

[solar fractal]

Zohra has to be 5th pos

And don’t use emi

[grim hamlet]

If you don't have reso18 it's baits. Dia value wise baits are actually terrible compared to the normal exchange rate but it doesn't matter if you're not reso18 because that is too high value. Once reso18 never take baits again

[solar fractal]

Seren is better

[solar fractal]

Nope =exchange

[gilded sapphire]

For exchange events and chests: If there are no special exchanges (DIs, Dragon Reds, Dragon Gear, L Totem card etc.):

• Reds if less than 3 si30s
• Baits before pet reso 18
• Juice post pet reso 18
  Otherwise, ask in chat for more information.

[winged crest]

welp alright

[wraith fjord]

AH

[timber cedar]

yeah thats what im doing. never really understood why but idk i just like pulling pets for some reason

[tender prairie]

and do you know if I should do Liberta or Knox first ?

[grim hamlet]

AHHH

[tender prairie]

I have that

[winged crest]

if between the two, prob liberta, but ask someone with more experience first

[pale barn]

Pretty sure it’s Knox to mythic first

[hybrid breach]

@signal vortex @solar fractal @cobalt abyss

[solar fractal]

Hi

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[solar fractal]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

Stargazing Priorities:

#994913771598389318 message

[pale barn]

What’s the main reason for Lysander 1 copy before getting 1* Knox?

[charred jetty]

When does oddy drop

[hybrid breach]

9day

[charred jetty]

Uh on test?

[hybrid breach]

global

[quiet folio]

Just finished chap 12 so i got that chest where i can pick a hero from the 4 factions. From what I remember im supposed to save it. But i still dont have ivan , so what do i do?

[cobalt abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/hugging-loving-gif-18297428

[harsh acorn]

And bro says he doesn’t keep up with the game

[hybrid breach]

[harsh acorn]

@hybrid breach feedback please

[hybrid breach]

sorry bud i dont play anymore

[harsh acorn]

Banning dubs rn /j

[cobalt abyss]

Evil

[harsh acorn]

Who’s playing your acc now?

[hybrid breach]

omega

[harsh acorn]

How much does that guy play

[hybrid breach]

looks fine, could prob add IS cover to the list. are you going to do a mid tier set too? cause you need a lot more than just one basic fatk bounty/vault plus a couple +1/2 storms

[cobalt abyss]

dubsy save me

[hybrid breach]

id say +1 storm is pretty important in general too

[harsh acorn]

I had it on there, but I removed it because I felt like it was less relevant to mid game

[hybrid breach]

id imagine TS no?

[harsh acorn]

Which heroes use the is cover?

[hybrid breach]

tamtam

[harsh acorn]

Only Tamrus and it can be replaced with a fatk cover all the same for new players

Honestly maybe moving bounty/vault to the intermediate guide and adding +1 storm to the beginner guide might be better. Would also give me more space to add to the flight section

[hybrid breach]

if anything do vault, bounty is absolutely a must have asap imo

1st or 2nd +2 you should make

depending how quickly you can start fishing for them relative to how quickly you get envy done

[cobalt abyss]

An IS cover is pretty good but it would be a while before a new player thinks about getting it

[hasty flax]

Hi

[solar fractal]

Gorok

[timber cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-cat-waving-wave-paw-gif-18029335

[solar fractal]

Hi

[quiet folio]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[hasty flax]

Look at my sexy coll

[solar fractal]

Ew

[hasty flax]

About to card 1 mw

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-chicken-chicken-cat-chicken-suit-stare-gif-7069989637244858847

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/cardi-b-omgwhatisthat-famousgif-viral-gif-20244506

[hasty flax]

Idk im just using up my runs for the week

@solar fractal idk if i wanna spend moreZ game is kind dying for me

[solar fractal]

Don’t spend then it’s fine lol

[quiet folio]

Just finished chap 12 so i got that chest where i can pick a hero from the 4 factions. From what I remember im supposed to save it. But i still dont have ivan . Do i save or get Ivan?

[solar fractal]

Get him

[hasty flax]

But if im poor you wont love me

[solar fractal]

I’ll always love you bud

[pale barn]

For dragon trials, is it just more late game? This is round 2 and lost

[autumn gull]

use more dragon heroes, they’re level 600 vs your level 200 heroes

but yes it is definitely something for later, good to try the first few though

[pale barn]

Oh I see. That’s my only dragon but I didn’t even notice that. I thought one dragon would increase all

[autumn gull]

it’s more for when you start pulling for dragons

which is way later

[grim hamlet]

you know its funny, all this time and my best offensive cover is a +2 with 1m cda and that's it. And my best fatk is a +1 with 1m fatk and 1m err. And it still doens't feel all that important to get more

[grim hamlet]

btw you're missing like all the IS colls

[autumn gull]

i think IS flight is very important, even earlier on, but not sure about cover early on

[harsh acorn]

The issue is bounty is nc focus and from what I’ve seen, nc is not mid game friendly rn

[autumn gull]

but what else to do after t100 TS

[harsh acorn]

Intentionally excluded. As a beginners list, IS is less useful and more easily replaced compared to the other collections on the list. By the time they fully participate in nc/cr, they should be getting personalized guild support and will know to make the colls hopefully

[harsh acorn]

Who uses is flight early on? And in what situation can it not be replaced with a fatk flight?

Imo, mp flight is more useful early on.

[grim hamlet]

ah. you're anti IS in TS I'm guessing

[autumn gull]

true true, i think most of the confusion is about the border between early and mid game. love the guide!

[harsh acorn]

Yesyes, so I excluded it from the list :)

[pale barn]

Pulled some more but still stuck so I shall wait. Should be able to grab 1 elthara when we get DI discounts

[harsh acorn]

Not anti at all. I use it on Velu, and multiple other heroes. But early game, a proper fatk flight/cover will be more valuable than an is flight.

[autumn gull]

nooo don’t pull dragons yet, save your diamonds and scrolls

[grim hamlet]

I just generally think fatk is a luxury item tbh

[harsh acorn]

The only heroes that could use an IS flight are Knox and shuna. Easily replaced by a fatk flight imo

[hybrid breach]

In the future don’t pull outside of dragolite events at all

[grim hamlet]

like its nice but I just think its pretty low impact

[harsh acorn]

That argument has some validity to it

[hybrid breach]

Sleeping on IS lan in pvp

[harsh acorn]

[pale barn]

@hybrid breach @autumn gull ah thank you for advice. I didn’t use diamonds for it but I’ll save knowing that

[dapper gate]

okay, any swap for emi? would lysander work better?

[solar fractal]

Yes or serenmira

For 5t using lys would be better but then you’ll have split them to make watha burst in 7t

[grim hamlet]

like I think my early pattern was like:

1. Colls for my DPS's (which were way different then but the idea still hasn't changed)
2. Select +2s (vault mostly in those days, a wings +2 cause I thought it was less shitty then it is and an armor +2 for envy eventually)
3. Select stat sticks like MP for palmer, ero for aure, HP for ashem and def for misha
4. Fill in support sticks for each class: IS, fatk, fdef and fero. Honestly considered fatk the least valuable of these but basically just chased based on how early drops in the run went

[solar fractal]

Lots of hero’s
Ivan shuna knox velu

[solar fractal]

I agree ftak is fake stat I have 0 ftak bounty and vault on an acc and that never stopped me from getting bis times in nc

The only way it can make a difference is if you have 4 hero’s using 5m ftak

[wraith fjord]

Mage coll was very poor decision of mine

[crystal yarrow]

Guys is levi m40 still a prio or nah

[hasty flax]

No idea Dj

[harsh acorn]

Ivan uses atk, and shuna uses fatk usually iirc. I do think fatk is useful when a lot of carries use high cda. The fatk helps with the balancing and scaling of the two stats iirc.

Velu probably isn’t built at that point and Knox is fine with fatk too I think

[solar fractal]

Ivan doesn’t use atk

[grim hamlet]

well I mean I don't want to dismiss it entirely. like if you have perk and the resources to spare to chase 5m fatk colls for your supports then sure yea, that starts to add up. Now this one hero is an extra M fatk on your DPS's coll. Probably helps crack some thresholds in NC, definitely helps in CR. But the problem is the marginal improvement of like 1 more fatk is quite small so its basically never worth card/recast for f2p and you only get low impact 2m or so colls that way

[solar fractal]

And I don’t think new players will have a good ftak coll

[harsh acorn]

Fatk*

[grim hamlet]

plus if you've got aure or misha in the round (or now elth) fatk is suboptimal on supports anyuway

[harsh acorn]

I mean 1-2m fatk is enough for a coll. It’s more to have one than anything else

[grim hamlet]

I've always used IS on shuna in TS though...

[solar fractal]

Having that IS flight will help in nc as well with tav

[grim hamlet]

IS is like her whole kit?

well all the active skills anyway

[solar fractal]

She’s the worse velu

[solar fractal]

But I guess it’s not about it being useful more so it’s hard to make since I don’t think their first +2 should be IS flight and making 5m is quit impossible for new players

[grim hamlet]

I just think new players basically want like 2m fdef, fatk, fero and IS in every coll type that's used lol

they can definitely do the +1 required ones like cover as a lower prio there cause those runs suck

but they just want the set of those 4 in all the basic types: storm, watch, blade, flight and cover

its just "here's something to do with your blue runs for the next year"

[grim hamlet]

wait, you don't use attack on ivan?

I mean i guess I'm not sure where exactly we use him anymore

[wraith fjord]

FUCK THE FUNCTION

[grim hamlet]

but I always use attack on him outside of like one CR

[solar fractal]

I don’t use Ivan period

[wraith fjord]

also lads why we on discord its valantine day

[quiet folio]

Alr ty, works better

[grim hamlet]

do you just mean in TS? Cause he's still in CR right?

wait is he dead in CR? Am I mixing him up?

[solar fractal]

I mean ts yes

[solar fractal]

Nope

[grim hamlet]

ah ok

[solar fractal]

I do use atk for him in cr

[grim hamlet]

yea i haven't used him in TS in a long time

but I alway used to use attack on him

early on Ice TS is devastating cause you can't use ivan lol

[signal vortex]

hi

[forest gazelle]

I just started playing and I think I pulled awakened thorann at 3-17. What do I do

[solar fractal]

You play?

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[forest gazelle]

Yeah but do I put resources into him or just rely on wukong still until 100? I guess I'm asking if it changes the progression

[solar fractal]

You can try and test him if he’s good or not

But till later chapters everything should work

[forest gazelle]

Thanks! Appreciate it. The progression is still a little confusing so just wanted to make sure I wasnt messin anything up 🙂

[cobalt abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/capoo-bugcat-cute-roll-hi-gif-26565832

[solar fractal]

Follow the guides and it’s gonna be easy =todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[forest gazelle]

=campaign

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618027271906918400/1320930606573555752/newgitgudguidev2.png?ex=689b45be&is=6899f43e&hm=2a04a9aec55d8216c661a2499dccc95d8e112a970bbca008f0c9e34918e7a0bc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1516&height=1168

[forest gazelle]

@solar fractal That rocks thank you

[crystal yarrow]

Guys do i need 2 level 3 3m cda blade

[solar fractal]

Why two

[velvet jetty]

I misread, you only need 1 +2 3m

[solar fractal]

If your asking if you need +2 then yes if your asking if you should make 2 of the same coll then no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813039731943800853.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=angelAlikeummm&lossless=true

And you don’t really need 3m cda 2 cda 1 atk/crit is fine

[cobalt abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-dudu-cheek-pinch-gif-2972827856134174678

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/900067755234050138.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=GA_dance

[autumn gull]

no, you should have a max of 3/4 heroes that need it at your stage (envy/sion/sjw/skylan), so just spend more totems :)

[oak stirrup]

Any suffering this hour

[crystal yarrow]

Alr btw who is the better hb to build rn after 409 lan and L elthara

[oak stirrup]

RGM rank? Rank goal? What other dragons

[crystal yarrow]

Wym

In currently t100 in ts and lacking in nc and cr

[oak stirrup]

U want to do as well as U can no? I don't know how other people give advice but I tend to tailor things (if I bother to care) by their ambitions

[crystal yarrow]

I wanna do as good as i can in all rgm u know

But lowkey hard as a f2p

[oak stirrup]

No I don't know actually, I just assume most people are complacent af

If you want cheap general advive then wait for new dragon release, then wait at least two more weeks, then decide if you go for new one or back build, unlike awakened there's no new dragon bias except if you want cool animated cosmetic

[signal vortex]

Bud give me some wisdom

[crystal yarrow]

How about if i wanan keep t100 in ts but progress more in nc

[oak stirrup]

U rank extra better with contributer role it's a hidden buff, U just gotta discover the bonuses and utilise them

[signal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[oak stirrup]

U didn't give information like rank and rank goal

[crystal yarrow]

My rank currently is t100 in ts and i think im legend 80 or 90 percent in nc

[oak stirrup]

Like how am I supposed to know if you're someone who is trying to bite for more than they could chew and fly up to top 200/50 from say, 20%

If you want to merely 'improve NC' then you just look at current leaderboard meta of top 10-ish and then fill up missing rosters one by one

[quiet folio]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[oak stirrup]

IF you want to future proof then obviously you take your time to research new dragon and NOT expecting people to give info when they themselves don't even have a clue how the dragon works

It's not the first time new hero release look very good on paper and turn out to be a flop because Lilith did something that they shouldn't have

[crystal yarrow]

Alr thank you i just have a question may i know which rgm are skylan and levi bis in?

[velvet jetty]

The biggest pitfall of new dragon may be attack speed

It doesn’t matter how much damage each attack does if he almost never attacks

[oak stirrup]

They're just going to fix it with a mandatory collection that adds attack speed which then becomes mandatory for half the heroes of the same stat class

[velvet jetty]

But thats the biggest thing I can see going wrong besides the numbers just being too low

[oak stirrup]

U playing on test server?

[velvet jetty]

His atk speed is fixed

No, just reading the skills as info comes out since I plan to pull him

[oak stirrup]

Good good my apprentice, work on and expand your ambitions when your ranks are stable

[velvet jetty]

My plan is simple: pull him day 1, and if he sucks quit the game

[oak stirrup]

Das not the mentality of someone trying to reach even higher

There are some of us who pulls quickly and benefit due to dark tech info that we, by obvious reasons, are reluctant to share with the general public

[velvet jetty]

I reach higher based on my roster. If it’s good I play better if it’s bad I hoard

All of my big rank jumps were from early pulling an expensive unit that looks good

Skylander day 1 took me from % to t20 by himself

[grim hamlet]

well quagga may have pointed out some mitigation for that tbh

he seems to stack damage onto the attacks of others. And his kinetic energy thing jacks up his stats for that damage and may be unbounded?

so even if he doesn't attack he could maybe be putting on the hurting. kind of like asaf sp

[oak stirrup]

Everything life becomes easier if people just wait and take their time

[grim hamlet]

yea but then you tell them they're doing bad cause they aren't being decisive enough and instead following their competition like sheep

[oak stirrup]

For those who come after want to do gud, but lack the ability to get insider info to act quick

[dark musk]

Is it normal to be stuck in the campaign? I feel like I’ve been stuck in chapter 33 for 1-2 weeks

[oak stirrup]

Yes getting walled is part of the game, which you gradually overcome once you have more rosters built

[grim hamlet]

yea the start of multi team is the first real wall you hit

eventually it gets easier. Like now I'm pretty much only blocked by powercap

[oak stirrup]

Gosh I don't even have a particular collection to aim for these days

What do I even need except for the unlikely of a 5IS on main

[dark musk]

Yeah thats true do you guys think it’s harder to play as a f2p then P2W or is it roughly the same?

[dark musk]

Yeah I’m on 3 teams rn, I need to develop my bag though but idk how to

[oak stirrup]

Is that a trick question? When it's blatant that they intended for F2P to have less options for the same amount of time?

Man I'm just making Nara hooks totemless run because I have no idea what to aim for

[dark musk]

for my case I could literally play up to like 10+ hours a day if I wanted to but idk what are the right things to do

[oak stirrup]

That's entirely your choice, AFK Arena is special that you can't make up by grinding

Well I guess you could if you push campaign way harder than you need but like, exp gold are nothing, and dust caps after a very early stage

And level is only like 1% of your strength, most of your progression resources are tied behind =rgm player vs player competitions

[gilded sapphire]

Resource Generating Modes (RGMs)

• TR = Twisted Realm (1 team, challenge a boss for damage, rewards based on ranking)
• TS = Treasure Scramble (2-7 teams, set teams and they auto fight, pvp ranking for rewards)
• CR = Cursed Realm (6 teams, bash enemies for damage and get rewards based on ranking)
• NC = Nightmare Corridor (6 teams, try to kill all the bosses as fast as possible, rewards based on time)

Ranking Reward Distribution

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1hkyvyz/tscrnc_rank_rewards/#lightbox

[grim hamlet]

I just had the same problem on gus lol. Milf told me to make fero colls

[oak stirrup]

Vault still sees use, I wonder about bounty

Flight is extremely niche by this point

[grim hamlet]

not the high value ones necessarily. just like something per class

[dark musk]

I agree but that’s my point, my bay isnt developed enough to perform well in RGMs

[oak stirrup]

I guess if you Izold one it could be used one day preferably with fulldef or something

[dark musk]

also I have no experience competitively

[grim hamlet]

well its nice now actually cause of elth

[oak stirrup]

That's okay, the only way you earn experience to compete is literally doing it, and learning from each round

[grim hamlet]

its not just about aure rounds anymore

unless your elth coll is your aure coll

then fero doesn't matter lol

[oak stirrup]

If you want an edge with her in CR or something, the crazy leaderboard people made this 2MP/2ERO thing

[craggy oak]

My dumbass has plenty of fero colls

[dark musk]

my main question is how do I develop my bag so I can do better in events

[grim hamlet]

yea but 2m ero doesn't actually cap her ero buff

its like 40 ero? 1 more M ero is then overkill but you still have room for cap space. that's where fero comes in

unless you made that coll 2M+ ero

then you're basically capped lol

[oak stirrup]

• Participate in ALL your activity like dailies, weeklies, limited time events
• Compete in RGM, higher your tier is the more you get
• Swipe card
• Getting into a decent to top guild that has handouts for other people doing good each week, heck even an active guild means you get more guild hunts for maxed guild coin income

[grim hamlet]

or if you took her to si50. then yea, 2m ero caps her buff lol

[oak stirrup]

Be expected to be humiliated by people who played earlier, or spent more, and question why you try to compete, of course

[grim hamlet]

I always liked fero colls. I tried to get at least 2m in all the types since aure came out

[oak stirrup]

I probably gotta SI50 her

[grim hamlet]

that is also an option

[oak stirrup]

I feel like her in CR currently, is unsufficient

[grim hamlet]

whats your coll on her?

[oak stirrup]

5erosion and +1/2MP/2Ero but still doing not as much as I hoped

[grim hamlet]

oh you have the bis one and its still not doing it for you, interesting

[oak stirrup]

Must be the SI

[grim hamlet]

could be. try replacing fatk stuff with fero stuff next time and see if that helps. you still got like 10 more ero before her buff caps so 3m fero around owuld probably be more significant then fatk

[oak stirrup]

The more bis you get, the more you're trapped at the idea of outright refusal to try bis runs without miracle

[grim hamlet]

well fero is a really good blue run though

[craggy oak]

Honestly I only ever really find it super nice in ae

[grim hamlet]

cause it only matters for aure and elth

[craggy oak]

And that one Marsha NC

[grim hamlet]

and i imagine your aure doesn't need much at all to get to 105 ero (if any). and your elth doesn't need more then 3 from what you said

so 5m fero would just be at least 2m wasted

[oak stirrup]

Golly my full ero warrior is poor

Well can get away with 2 but still

[grim hamlet]

really? it helped me a ton in NC to make a fero vault. The ability to get my aure over 105 ero made a very noticeable difference for me in that round

[oak stirrup]

I got a decent Pippa support though

[grim hamlet]

before I made the fero vault I even tested with an aure merc. 104 ero vs 105 ero was like multiple seconds difference for me since I was able to hit a threshold I couldn't otherwise

[oak stirrup]

There's no reason to keep any +1 blade right?

[grim hamlet]

of course the bigger your tree and aath and other stuff is the less you need a fatter aure to hit that threshold so ymmv. but for me, it was massive

[oak stirrup]

Can just SI42 Aurelia or something

[grim hamlet]

not that I'm aware of

[solar fractal]

Hi

[dark musk]

Is there guides for the different RGM modes? Also wdym by swipe card and how am I gonna get into a decent top guild?

[oak stirrup]

Plenty of guides for RGM modes but for Treasure Scramble, you really, really need experience by keep playing it instead of expecting to reach the skies on your debut because you don't got the roster to just, copy other people, so you need to improvise by figuring out what heroes and team combos work better in your region

To join top guild, both perform well in RGM, and/or develop your SPECIAL stats, focus on charisma so you can pass speech checks

Also as of two years ago, you need to keep going for bis collections, have fun battling RNG

[dark musk]

=TS

dang yet I thought that would work

[oak stirrup]

A rigid TS guide is not going to save you if you don't even have the heroes and their needed investments (also each round is different and you need to run different roster anyway)

[dark musk]

so basically just study top players and learn what works best

[oak stirrup]

Studying top player is useless because you can never get their lineup without whaling yourself

You get the general idea but you can't expect running one copy of hero to work the same as their invested heroes "I have the same heroes too why isn't this working for me"

[dark musk]

this might sound stupid but I might aswell just not even do the RGM/ yet, especially because my bag is horrible

[dark musk]

fair point

[oak stirrup]

The longer you skip and hold off, the more people get ahead of you because you get nothing, they get something

What will it be then? Do you just relegate to life of casual? Or do you want to do something about it?

[delicate moon]

RGMs are the only way to catch up at all

Even then it’ll take a long time to catch up, even if playing perfectly

[oak stirrup]

Blunt truth time - you can't even play perfectly unless you are a well trained AI, and even then you get very close, but not 100%

Whether a hero or lineup is meta, is decided by your region, completely outside of your control, also the infamous pull luck difference

[dark musk]

Yeah your right my bad

[oak stirrup]

It's the same reason why people who keep asking "Oh when is the new server going to come?" is dumb, they fail to comprehend that the later you start, the more existing people will be ahead of them, especially with this arena update making it also "region based"

[calm oak]

is it possible to kill bosses as a new nc player

[dark musk]

I mean get kisaka a Grammy for this

[velvet jetty]

I hope so, I just didn’t see that part in the latest infographic, just the older ones

[tepid raft]

Hi peeps

[oak stirrup]

Depends which boss, over time bosses got more difficult especially reruns, in order to increase the competition of those who now have no effort of killing them due to account being much stronger than before

If your account is way too small and you happened to not have built the heroes that are good enough to kill, you just fail, period

[grim hamlet]

its the si. The kinetic energy thing itself its unclear if it has any cap. And then the si jacks up his attack per energy at the early levels and the 40 adds an asaf sp like effect based on his stats

[velvet jetty]

Sounds awesome. I pull 80% based off vibes and he passes the vibe check so now I just hope he’s really strong

[oak stirrup]

And if he's not, are you actually quitting as per your response before? Will you honour your words?

[velvet jetty]

Maybe. He would have to be really bad. As long as he’s strong meta in one mode I’ll call it good

Like elthara or skylan. I don’t really play CR but I would settle for being a merc bot

[crystal yarrow]

Guys what rgm is skylan and levi bis

[oak stirrup]

Observe your regions and you get very good idea

[crystal yarrow]

From what i see both are used in nc and ts so idk

[oak stirrup]

If you want to play it safe then you build both

[wraith fjord]

@charred jetty what happened to the early gaem comp of m30 ashem with 4 random hypos

[turbid spade]

Think your forgetting the Big M

[autumn river]

Join me bud

Retired life is good

[velvet jetty]

Highly considering it, burning out on all the new bullshit I need but can’t get

[velvet jetty]

Levi is stronger

[inner talon]

Does anybody know what is the most optimal collection for knox? And what attributes should i look for

[crystal yarrow]

But i heard that levi beed wucius to work properly in ts

[crystal yarrow]

Insight or fatk flight i think

[oak stirrup]

Are you not improving over time though

[willow bison]

[oak stirrup]

It can get frustrating when you can't push higher than you hoped but like, that only really happens when you break barriers like getting the key heroes up

[raw ore]

i have enough fodder to ascend 1 GB, i have 8 copies of silas, 10 of lady simona, 16 of bronn or 8 of hodgkin, i also have 30 days left of my grit, should i bother ascending any?

[oak stirrup]

You need to build ascended to unlock features so why are you even reluctant on keep building them?

[raw ore]

because i keep hearing how dogshit simona and bronn is, so im wondering if i should use all my fodder on them or wait for 1 of the other GB's that i have 6/7 copies of

[oak stirrup]

Just because a hero is not 'meta of meta' does not mean they're dog shit

Cruel reminder that you cannot thrive in this game by only building what is considered meta

[raw ore]

i've heard they are worse than dog shit and if i build one i might as well start a new account

[harsh acorn]

[oak stirrup]

Because you won't even have enough roster to unlock the competitive modes which is bulk of your income

So if you don't build 'dog shit heroes', do you intend to just fill up the 30 needed for NC by only building good celepogeans awakened and dragons?

[raw ore]

yes

[oak stirrup]

Are you a spender?

[raw ore]

i spend my time

[crystal yarrow]

There is something called graveborn tower bro

[oak stirrup]

Your time is worthless in a game designed for profit

You cannot make up for lost resources by 'grinding' because such a mechanic does not exist

[raw ore]

i have 5 decent GB heroes though some GB tower isn't a problem

[oak stirrup]

You get to two team faction tower and much later, three team

[raw ore]

but yeah you have just led me onto trolling now, so back to the original question which one should i ascend

[crystal yarrow]

There is gonna be 2 teams then 3 teams

[raw ore]

bare in mind i also have a grit (but its got 28 days left)

[crystal yarrow]

How many day of grit is remaining

[oak stirrup]

I can tell but I still can't resist the urge to tell you, if you want to build all the meta as F2P, you probably die of old age or game shuts down before you can even pull that off

[crystal yarrow]

Then if u dont need anyone specifically i suggest u wait

[raw ore]

there may be a good chance i die of old age before the game die's i am pretty old

[oak stirrup]

U want to play it safe with hero progression? Just look at campaign of what they use, find matching hero, and build that first

There are people with good knowledge on early game TS, I have basic ideas but I don't really say things that I'm not 70% sure

[crystal yarrow]

Or if u hit 2 team u could get that 5 star bronn and link him to rem

[raw ore]

whoever i build i will no doubt use to link rem to, as rem is currenyl linked to a M at the moment, although i may get shuna next month as well as rem

[oak stirrup]

Oh if you mentioned that from the very beginning it would have been much easier no? Go for the one with most copies so Rem starts with more stars

[crystal yarrow]

The only meta units in gb rn are randle mira and ivan so

[oak stirrup]

If you're truly skilled, you can make meta out of more than that

For example, humilating people with Simona because they didn't build her but you did

[raw ore]

0 skill here, im more of a do what people say kind of player

[crystal yarrow]

Simona is good early on personally i got her at 209

[oak stirrup]

Das no good, too easily manipulated if you encounter someone who is troll or worse, malicious and want to brick your account

[raw ore]

When people say TS do they mean treasure scramble or twisted whatever its called

[oak stirrup]

Twisted Realm has nothing to do with TS

[raw ore]

what about Twisted Sister?

[crystal yarrow]

U mean abt simona

[velvet jetty]

Yeah but I’m playing still because my account is at a point where everything is mostly done and doesn’t need paying for. If that stops being the case then I don’t know how much I want to continue

[craggy oak]

Maybe I'm just big kraken

[pulsar marlin]

You can afford next hb?

[open oyster]

First person to merc me saitama gets 1 trillion billion dollars

Already got one gg

[oak stirrup]

First one to merc him outside my circle gets purged

[craggy oak]

@oak stirrup can I get kaelon with CDA +2 blade pls

[oak stirrup]

When I get home

Nothing to do so just chilling at Costco

[craggy oak]

Alr ty

[open oyster]

Get all the samples

[jaunty plume]

i’m incredibly jealous

[open oyster]

You snooze you lose

[oak stirrup]

U just gotta network well, I'm socially bad so I'm used to being self sufficient

[jaunty plume]

my network is very deep

but lately i haven’t been online so been slacking

[oak stirrup]

Then U should have absolutely no problem securing mercs, no need to be jelly

[jaunty plume]

i think that’s good in its own way ig

i do transfer mercs from one account to the other if i can ofc

[oak stirrup]

If you get to play other accounts even easier, just prioritise all mercs to you, I mean other people being %er have no bearing on your own performance anyway

[versed jewel]

Hello,
For the next Hero Swap do I Need two Copys for the Heros I want to swap or is it enough if I have just one built and can it swap it with a Hero of my Choice?

[oak stirrup]

U need at least copy of the hero you want to swap to, can't swap to different hero out of thin air

[versed jewel]

Oh okay thank you 👍

[oak stirrup]

Swap 1 orange with 4 apple you get 4 orange 1 apple, you cannot swap 1 orange 0 apple to apple

[versed jewel]

Is it known when the next Swap is?

[oak stirrup]

They will tell you, I know you're enthusiastic about wanting a boost and get ahead of competition, but you don't get things early just because you want them

Just look for patch notes every week

[versed jewel]

👍

ty fn

[jagged edge]

Heroes or scrolls and insigina?

[oak stirrup]

Always DI over everything else, scrolls is up to you whether you weigh it more important than equip or emblem

[solar fractal]

Always insigina

[wraith fjord]

Some odd Colls

[pulsar marlin]

DI>scroll>reds=equip

Unless ur a diamond whale

Then red and equip are prioritized over scrolls

[spare peak]

what investment do i need on lysander and aathoran?

[versed jewel]

But Skylan will be in it Right? bc he got released Like 1989

[pulsar marlin]

Whoran 309 e60-409 e60, 409 e60 is nc invest, Lysander is 209 e60, or if you have the resources 409 e60

[spare peak]

thank uuu

what invest does veithael need for nc

[oak stirrup]

If you want to make decision quickly and climb ladder now you can go for him, or just be like everyone else, wait for new release, wait another two weeks for enough info, and then decide

Whales would do it now mainly because, they have nothing else to build, not because it's necessarily a good idea

[tacit smelt]

is this a good deal?

[charred jetty]

ashem?

I don't think ashem works

[charred jetty]

wait this thing is back?

I think that is probably the single best deal in the game

like I'm not even kidding

you see how it says 8850% discount? I don't think that number is that much of an exaggeration

[tacit smelt]

seems like ima have to get that then

[charred jetty]

especialyl if oyu don't have an L elthara

that deal is killer

[tacit smelt]

i got none

[charred jetty]

like legit you buy that deal you win

I'm not even exaggerating

[tacit smelt]

and this?

[charred jetty]

that one is much worse

[tacit smelt]

the chest is a skin

[charred jetty]

yeah we good

lol

[tacit smelt]

or 35 TE
just noticed

[charred jetty]

well hmm if you like the skin

oh 35 TE...

ooooooo

[tacit smelt]

55 TE for 30

[charred jetty]

let me ask some krakens about the deal

@winter halo

is it good?

[tacit smelt]

skins dont look that nice or i might

[charred jetty]

bert skin is pretty nice

once of the best skins in the game, idk if you care though

not like bert as a hero is any good for new players anymore

but

[tacit smelt]

not yet

[charred jetty]

the skin is pretty good

[oak stirrup]

Skin!? I gotta get in there!

[charred jetty]

oh ye kisaka

[tacit smelt]

def will later tho but i dont rly got progression stuff atm

[charred jetty]

is 30$ for 55 TE a good deal?

or is it eh

[oak stirrup]

Way way better than the usual 40

[charred jetty]

but like not good for low spender right

[oak stirrup]

Actually 30USD is how much?

[charred jetty]

for new player

well it's euro for that guy

[oak stirrup]

Is it USD?

So that's like 46.99 AUD or what

[charred jetty]

ye something like that

[tacit smelt]

euro

[charred jetty]

nah pass on that deal for now, snag the DI

[tacit smelt]

which is better for me or it would have been 36

[charred jetty]

there is a =spending

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Spending Money

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828

[tacit smelt]

that deal popped up cuz i got the DI

[charred jetty]

but DI is way on top of that

you might want to just wait for duck

[tacit smelt]

i wouldnt be surprised if a stargazing offer came after that TE

[charred jetty]

TE is good, but idk how impactful it is for a newer player

you won't feel the impact as uch

ok now head over ot the dragon pulling place

[tacit smelt]

i just use them for knox rn

[oak stirrup]

You need like 500TE at a time to really feel it

[charred jetty]

pull until you get exactly 1 copy of elthara

[charred jetty]

^

[tacit smelt]

slide me some i am borderline bankrupt

[charred jetty]

yeah skip that deal

it's whatever

[craggy oak]

Nvm I already got Kae you can give to someone else

[oak stirrup]

Okay 55 is shit then, 30.99 for 40 isn't uncommon

[tacit smelt]

only got 38 tho

god i just noticed draconic supplies pricing

15 DI for 30

[oak stirrup]

Are you sure their Kaelon is not defective, unlike the one from sweet lovable me?

[tacit smelt]

30 pulls and nothing

[oak stirrup]

[tacit smelt]

i got 27 TE should i save them?

[tacit smelt]

[oak stirrup]

Do you wan to try your luck again

[tacit smelt]

I love me some gambling that 99% will end in a failure

[oak stirrup]

Who knows maybe they will balance out

[tacit smelt]

who should i put in TE?

[oak stirrup]

New accounts have this tendency to get much better luck in general overall

[tacit smelt]

mine hasnt been that great other then some ivan copies

one copy away from ascending ivan

[oak stirrup]

Well not everyone

[tacit smelt]

but 0 randy or other valid heros

but which hero should go in TE?

[oak stirrup]

You have grit swap to make up for it so just push as hard as possible and for TE it's =te

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[winter halo]

Why don't you ask yourself

[tacit smelt]

used it to make scarlet mythic

[winter halo]

Julius 2.0

[craggy oak]

It's looch's Kae

[oak stirrup]

JD lost one of his tentacles last time because of IJ so he's recovering still

[tacit smelt]

te?

[oak stirrup]

Time emblem for awesome awakened hero that keeps noobs in awe

[tacit smelt]

ye ik but who should i put in it?

ppl said i should go for Ashemira before

[oak stirrup]

I tend to not answer things that are already shown in guides unless the person is considered special to me, sorry

[craggy oak]

=te

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[tacit smelt]

i just wasnt sure between these 2

[oak stirrup]

It's not because I'm an asshole or anything, mostly still because guides are more reliable than me, even though I've seen many things

All I can say is NC got a lot harder to get into

[tacit smelt]

nc?

[torn lance]

Nightmare corridor

[solar fractal]

=ratio

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1365328577561886740/RDT_20250425_0707255117226094771476277.jpg?ex=680ce8d3&is=680b9753&hm=b814c2f065b318f58746e04bb4fa6e42892297e393fa95795bd0046ce5451d3b&

[pulsar marlin]

GF is a lot better

And it’s semi consistent so like if ur low spender just wait for gf deals

[solar fractal]

I just want the dragon emblems😭