#classic-questions
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AHHHHHHHHHH

did you try setting R5 
She’s trash
Don't tell me you did like 10 hits then realised
I don’t have the units for it
Who are you even trying to copy
Have you tried getting them
I don’t own askri and I don’t own a good enough velu
This cr is very karkeny I don’t recommend
i thought u said earlier u had all the heroes wts
Merc merc merc
Yes then u discovered how mp check it is
I can’t merc 2 units ……..
Well merc the missing one and improvise with cheap substitute for one you actually have
Can’t get any askri subs to work
This week if I had askri would be a pretty easy 230-235 week
Sure bud
Sorry 220-225
I mean you just need to hit 30b r5 to hit 220
How to do that no idea
Probably gotta use elthra
She’s taken
And lan rim r6 break the round lan is in
what you nc punya time
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Priorities for Hero Engravings
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buy saitama
=ratio

Should i ascend Hogan
i want to get past 7-28 if it's gonna help i can ascend him
guide says to ascend 5 fodders to L+ so go crazy
Ok
How's the F2P experience 
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Idek 
Remind me check later; kinda not avail to check game rn
CNY BS, you understand
Where’s my hb skills 
should i use my dias on 10x or should i buy like all the exchange stuff first like the legendary baits and codex marks
so rich goddamn
=wishlist
So wich column should i do?
wdym?
all of them
IMO you are in a solid position to either diamond gaze or get scammed by dragonlites
It’s up to u
With 228k you can almost get a cele hypo to a1
scammed by dragon lites is so real
U should get scammed by dragonlites 
i just might
Honestly it was zww who proposed the idea of going dragonlite first
You can ask him for more relevant details, I kinda wheled sion and velu 
yeah idk if imma whale but like 100 here and there wont hurt
whats whale tier and then whats dolphin, i think imma dolphin whos got a mental deficiency
Whale is when you hit vip 14
yeah i have most those at 1 star but im an idiot, and i didnt get a response in like 5 minutes times so i had used the 200k on 4f 😭😭
Before then it’s widely considered dolphin range
hence, dolphin with a mental deficiency
R those both newest servers 
look at the difference between the top 2 on this seever lmao
its pretty recent, 2 or 3 weeks maybe?
Actually prob less
Ur doing really good
Prob should have tried for velu or sion
Instead of dumping for more 4fs 
i love seeing people spend that much money and then 5 starring their celehypos before getting others
Or you could have gone Selene and help us test some theories 
dude my heart dropped once i got in here , can i explain my idiocy?
im actually gonna do that yeah, i said it before im gonna do selene 2nd
i got 180 cards rn
Yeah cuz some r54 people are doing Selene second as hyper ts focus
We need to know dual mantle skills tho
so basically my dumbass did the math with the 220k diamonds / 5k and got 45, and was like only 45 pulls? and i forgot to multiply by 10 to get 450 pulls lmao
And how cooked dual mantle is, if it’s cooked I think we could shift lib further down
whats dual mantle?

Newest nc boss, not relevant to you quite yet
why is the hb coming out on feb 19
dude i didnt even realize until you said it, and by then i was already -220k
chinese holiday, they r gonna be on break
Test or main server
my man has the patience so save 220k diamonds but not to wait 5 minutes crazy work
Isn’t it gonna sync up with main server almost
save? 😭😭
So i have to took those with no border?
where does one buy 220k diamonds
tbf i have 180k just lying around without spending
damn
I think I bought around 12 of them?
i just bought like 5
No im Reading now, from what i understand Is Better to go for those with a purple frame, other wise those with withe frame because requires less copies (so i cane use them even if they are low rank)
I kinda get It, but i dont understand why i cant go straight for the others
it’s a priority order, the ones on the left are better than the ones on the right
Thats have more sense
guys why we wishlist talismane instead of owl in the newbie guide, isnt owl way higher than talismane on pet tier list ?
damn man im actually sad i used the 220k on 4f
Thx
Since im here, It Is worth to get draconis heroes? They are kinda a scam for start
not yet
They cost the double but are rare to get
Yeah i noticed
Now im kinda stuck, cant do pulls and cant go futher with the campain
Hopefully dual mantle isn’t a piece of hot dogshit
And I can actually place in di bracket 
=earlymulti
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
what level pet is ideal for team 4?
im here praying with you, once sait drops it should be good
@pulsar marlin whats selenes min do you know?
^^
=engrave
TLDR
Listen and progression better
Don’t listen and quite quickly
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Ideally 309e30 eventually
guys where the main source to get element shard ?
Also it’s crazy how I’m still shard starved
Daily shop rift and ts chests
okay
Hi guys
I dont have any highborns yet but I have 600 insignias who should be my first highborn?
Should I wait for the new draconic hero or summon for someone else?
=guide
Wait for new hero to be tested
Hold in case new hb is mega broken, but otherwise 1 copy elthara and pull lan at 650 insignia
Look in google for codes
guys what pet should i use in rem team, im using alvida & rem as front and shuna , plamer, jerome at the back but rem just die so fast
i use ivan with mira alr, currently at chapter 36
stuck at this 4th battle , rem just too soft
merc envy
i see
Don’t we wait for dual mantle as well
Since we can’t garuntee nc isn’t gonna be continually fucked for new players
it still will be cause there are many whales in r8
also at what chapter should i start using diamond to summon dragon or just after finishing all hypo from the guide ?
okay got it
Alr
Should i si30 and e60 talimar or save si30 for alna when i get her 9f
I also have 4 mythic card to get alna to 9f
Im not get 6 skills max is 4
Yh i know im currently t85 but idk if i will drop so
But someone told me not to card alna so idk
I have 550 chest rn
Alna or talimar?
I wanna build talimar for mauler tower so i can get poe coins
I currently got 550 red chedt and a 130 red grave born
Should i 9f alna or nah
bad idea, 300 reds for a few poe coins isn’t worth
Yh but she getting built anyway so
if you think you can hold t100 fine without alna you shouldn’t card, you’ll have saitama unlocked to fill that role too this TS cycle
if t100 is not certain you should probably invest into it
Saitama just need e30 for that alna role right?
Is that should i 9f alna or nah cuz someone said i shouldn't 9f alna
^^^
thats my answer
Btw grumble what floor are u on
what tower
Idk if i should do alna or no 😭
Mauler
601 i think, gonna sweat it next week i think
who has a skirath i can merc for cr
Alr ty for advice tho
I see
i filled RC slots with cele to poosh today
I will start pushing cele when i 9f alna
Alr
Its jut im not sure whether i can keep t100 or nah so
unsure means not certain, i’d go for alna :)
lan is pretty solid in all rgms iirc. a safe bet mostly for now
Im getting to 30930 either way but furnite gonna take time
that’s fine
Cores are tight af for me rn
Cuz i got tali fawkes and lavatune upcoming and maybe sjw but he working pretty good at 20930
She’s really mid for ts, I feel like going levi over her is more correct
I wanna say a guide said not worth it but idk how old it was. Is going t4 on gear still pretty meh, or just situational depending on hero?
if it’s working fine no need to invest
definitely not mid, levi might be better in some ways, but lan is unmissable
Lan is just the safest option and she cheap cuz she only need 409 she doesn't need that engraving
depends on how the hb shakes out
hello, how long should i use my diamond on 4f heroes ?
i have 10-11 A heroes , knox star, lib A
should i use every diamond i got on stargaze from now ?
Personally i save my diaomonds for when a new drago elite cones out and i summon to get that 300 summon quest done
U def need sion and velu but thats me yh
So unclear if there’s a direct link to it, but #faq-resources has a section on Diamond Usage/Spending.
yeah but it's not really clear, i read on this guide that i have to pull until 10 4f heroes, but i read on this guide too that i have to stargaze only after 15 4f heroes ...
Huh. That it does. Yeah that’s not overly helpful lol. Hm. My totally uninformed opinion would be to do either what you said on just gazing, or go towards what Baka said.
merlin?
Yeah it be for Ivan. Got all 4 at t3 and he doin fine. Wasn’t sure, and it’s hard to resist that shiny upgrade button lol.
ty
God I hate that they stuck with that name.
yeah
Oh for Inn. Should I wait to max out the 1st building before buying the second, or spend the 300 diamonds for the 1k Poe coins. Unsure if that’s a good trade or not.
ty bro
and ty bro
What invest does mira want for TS? just 20330?
Hii I just restarted. Is rem still garrison priority or shuna? Idk if shuna was out when the guide was made
rem then shuna
K ty
=guide
Guys why is talimars e60 needed
Finally tho abex is coming🙏
Is there one of those pages for artifacts I have one I made for naroko and I want to know who to give the second one to
And big daddy HB will have that abex meta comp 
Anyone?
As a f2p hope new hb is dogpoop
No tf he wont
You know im lowkey curious logan your in nihi no?
Does it boost talimars dmg or all unit i dont understand
As a person who might not be able to build him on only 1 acct me aswell
Twin why you talk like this?
ZwW taught me a lot
Ohhh i see

when was the newest server added? when they add a new server im gonna test to see how going awfawkes first and then knox-selene goes
or envy first idrk, but i wanna do one or the other
yeah cool ill wait on it then, i wanna be there day one ish
i meant for 1190
do u know if its on daily reset that they add new servers?
Hi peeps
Guys does kaelon have any sub?
i mean i started 1186 like day one maybe 3-4 weeks ago
Nc
actually lemme just see how advanced the 1189 players are
I see
The server doesn't matter that much its the region
oh
Tbh if u follow all the guide and ask for help here u could easily get t100 as f2p
i mean im fine guide wise, i just wanted to test out the awfawkes-selene method
are there any clans that accept like fresh accounts on a new server
i heard olympian is good but would they accept a freshie?
=wishlist
What’s a good early substitute for the Panda pet if I don’t have it yet?
prob treat or rock crown
Thanks!
Yeah definitely seeing an improvement with Treat, thanks!
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Hi guys, how are you all? I wanted to ask for a tip, I am following the guide in this discord server and it tells me to use all my summons on graveborn. This is my situation rn with graveborn and I was thinking on switching to lightbearers. Is that the optimal thing to do?
=beasts
Beasts
=nc
Should I put icariel on wishlist
2nd team selling but still good imo
Couldnt he just click the club button
that they could
but as i dont have the game installed i cant exactly give an ss of it 
Nvm its gone again that thing disappears a ton
Hows the uninstall life
noticably better
Glad to hear it my guy


Does the guide say to switch?
Who should I message if someone is sending potential scams from this server?
ping mods
or ig mod mail
if its not in server
@olive jewel is polar beast, blade ridge,fire breath,feline vespirio, or bellbellow or savage souffle worth making 18

Its in DMs, he never sent anything in server
would just send something to mod mail then
Sent

Really creative pets feline and winged lion lmao
@olive jewel
Blade ridge is ok. None of the others worth until reso18
And several still not worth at all
I am res 18 lol
Then what is the point of the question 
I want to know if any of them are worth it
Sorry idk if I should use baits for them or keep lvling other pets already 18
You can battery blade ridge. But idk how many baits people want to save now with woke pets
You need disgusting amounts of bait to level wokes
@olive jewel hi
Oh okay thanks much appreciated jacko
Okay thanks casual much appreciated
you don’t have reso 18….
Yes
You do have reso 18 so why aren’t they all 18
I didnt summon for every pet i only summoned the main ones i was asking if the lesser used ones had any reason to be summoned
Why you no longer doing campaign clip
Well no. That's how you get priorities past 18

Well no. With woke pets leveling normal ones is a waste
what are these?
Yeah but it's still not useless. Just poor allocation of resources 
Where can i find them? Only found adv rewards
btw where can i find noob survival guide?
When the said so events come
mb
=guide
thks
Aka useless

:cat_run:
is this team decent for early game campaign cuz i am missing quite a few from the guide
Lack of consistency in comps
Ahhhh i see
Yes. Stop ascending heros if you don'thave 8 copies of them
Mets following for RGMs means shit all for campaign some times
got none ascended
only got ivan to mythic and did grit to swap naroko and scarlet
Fair enough you were my only competition lol

If I find the effort to make comps I’ll push
Bht I normally only do it for diamonds and I have a healthy supply
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is there anyone i should rush here? i have 19 red cards. i also don't have tavriel built yet (i missed a few summons on his release hoping he would be another umbriel. my mistake) so i'm not sure if he would be better to slot on here or even just as a swap scroll target with pulina
Ok 78-21 now
Campaign is so easy I can legit auto multis without envy
What has this game become 
And with him you can do 4-hero teams

Gosh this golden frontier tower pushing is fucking stupid
Absolutely loathe having to wait for other people before you can push further and your own stamina is wasted if you bought
Imo yes
Are you finally making that step towards T20?
It is dumb
Just makes TS super autopilot
I get no respect man
Oh I meant like imo yes sounds like a yes for I should build 
If you want CR build Kaelon 
Or wait for the new "Black Umbriel"
Will I be able to pick newest hero from misty valley this time or only from next misty valley onward?
Nope, misty valley came before new hero so you have to wait for next misty that will have the girl added
I see thanks
i dont think the new hero is even good
Wanna give my campaign a gentle nudge
@crystal yarrow =newhero
Because we're going to get this question a lot;
We require multiple weeks of testing before confidently placing a hero or pet in the priority guides. All information you hear about the hero or pet is speculation. Nothing is confirmed or set in stone. We recommend you to save your pulls if you haven't already started summoning for any hero or new pet. Please be patient for testing. 
from the looks of it i mean
New hero is god tier because she enables your existing heroes to be even better
Looks? Kitteh is jizzing through his jeans looking at her 
well hope she aint gonna be expensive if she will be used
Nah man of course it's better to lock most of new hero powers behind heavy investments, that way it effectively filters a lot of people out of your competition
And make you feel better for deep investments, knowing other people can't even hold a candle because they want their hurr durr minimal
You want to win, do you not?
GF considered a rgm?
It's still something you want to win even if it's outside your control, is it not?
And may as well be because you know, it's reoccuring, we have no idea if IJ is even a one time thing because there's both sides of argument right now
@tepid raft I see you're top 50 right now, are you confident?
=store
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Priorities for Spending Money
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Um the store as in guild coins
It used to be =coinusage but godamnit they changed again, oh 
Priorities for Coin Usage
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AM I CONFIDENT........AM I CONFIDENT.......no
Thanks
Gotta believe in yourself even if you drop back out to % later
Thanks fair enough lol
You might be at the 'I finally climbed to 100 so now I get easier time staying' though, they totally will mark accounts in different groups and set difficulty accordingly, like certain universes where people are controlled
Gotta always believe in yourself 
Aren't I too old for FS because it's filled with you know, R54s
They have this policy to recruit only new regions or something
no…you’re always welcome 
Bud I'm r36

jacko
Yeah but you were there before all these policy changes

The omly policy back then was "get kidnapped by Alpa"
i was kidnapped by someone else 
You were baited into going into a sack because casual28 promised there were fudge in it
Happy, is merely an exoskeleton worn by him now

Happy 
this my homies account, who should he grit with 5 days left
Wew bought Saitama, maybe collab was better rated than previously thought
As someone who just restarted, should I invest in legendary pets or epic pets..?
Grit out the likes of Rosa Eorin Naroko Bronn for the more meta 4F
Anyone build new wilder
Does 300E30 count as build
Yeah
I meant yeah to the build message
Or should I save for new legendary pet
That's not investing, that's just pity handout because you need way more than monthly exchange to build awakened pets
Take it or not is entirely up to you - but you have no chance in hell of even coming close to try to build the awakened pets if you rely on that 1 copy per month
I usually just buy the 100 bait from that tho it’s super costly and I never have gold bcs of it
Gold is easiest thing to come by, it's worthless later on, you're exchanging worthless with something that's worth something
Yea it’s worth it’s just bothersome sometimes cause I can’t level my rc and I sit on 2-3 levels worth of dust
Do you want to keep gold for short term, or long term benefit, is up to you
Always buying it but it takes a few days to get 40
Waa worth for me to pull to A1 since the oath rewards are so hufe
Nice have you used her at all
You have plenty of time to get the levelups and the bait in time
No but it is worth several billion in CR to just have her oath mark level apparently
So I went for it
Oh damn
I only got her to M on my main cause no dias 
I only had to HCP like 4 copies of the ten
Rest were purple cards and faction scrolls
On other acc i just had to use 13k dias on hcp to get to a1 so it was worth it

Make Luminous Flights with f.atk for now. Don't spend totems yet
F.atk is the normal one ?
Full attack. It's the stat you should be aiming to get. Because you want it on Ivan and Randle
And they both can use luminous flight
Oh okay
Thanks !!
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Totemless run is the new thing after three blues meta?
No I have always recommended no totems for the first week or so
Just get several copies from all those faction and normal scrolls you saved up as well as hearts SG wilder cards and purple stones 
It's probably fine to use blues but you gotta learn how to work the mode and you might lose some runs early
And no it's them purple faction you get from doing SG not SGing for a 4F
i got 0 copies from them all 
Ah just like that dude on leddit who got 0 from 800+ scrolls or something somehow
but on other acc i got like 4 or 5 copies from the purple stones 
I got like 3 in total but got 2
and some rando celepogean
I have enough to do 2 si30 and 1 e60 . Still have spare . Who is worth to up for NC invest? And anyone need to rush to 9f for priority expect alna?
im worried more about the fact that u have pippa built but no west and fawkes lol
wait nvm im blind
how much te u got for next woke?
and if its for nc i think talimar and beligrus is worth invesnt
300 TEs at the moment . wanna do fawkes maybe if have enough
how much core u got rn?
Whobis beligrus
wym?
I have 10k at the moment but wanna only do 1 i think
U type talimar n beligrus? Beligrus mean begris?
i think i dw his name i mean the yellow dragon
and if ur focus on nc why havnt u 30030 laos im pretty sure he good for nc
I dont have marcille 
Thats why i am asking bud
wait what why
U mean the dragon before tavriel?
yeah
I skip her but yea i regret it
def a bad choice
Okay so for core go for talimar or begris ? For si30?
Post in checkup and surely moo or causal can give advice hehe 
I guess 
shuna is a good choice for si30 and also alna for ts but from what i see u doing good for ts so i would say talimar or shuna

Okay bud thanks i will later 
Okay will note that bud thanks
yh and get opinions from others too never take opinion of one person alone
take OP onions instead
You smell like op onions
caramelized for 2 hrs
This new UI mode is crazy
Noob question!
When it comes to getting heroes to Ascended tier, should I just take them as I can get them?
I have enough copies of Lady Simona to take her to Ascended, but part of me thinks I'm meant to hold onto the fodder til I can follow priority guides -- I've had terrible luck pulling Damon though.
So is it smarter to take Ascended as I pull the copies, or to hold on til I can get the more widely recommended heroes?
what should i be spending diamonds on chapter 6
Summons
When should i stop spending gem gor summon?

all of them? i don’t need to save or nun right?
Early game only thing matters is summons imo
Not including pets and other stuff
alr thank u
How new are you btw
My pleasure
Yea i will take consider about all opinion especially alna . I am running fine t50 at r53 without her . But yea talimar is the safe choice i guess . For shuna still undecide between her or bald guy later honestly
When you have around 8 ascended 4 faction heros, you'll start spending diamonds on star gazing
i played a like years ago jst made a new acc
im on chapter 6 rn


Thanks a lot
are these worth it?
Use diamonds till 5 ascended of each faction i believe is how it goes
who do i stargaze first? I just unlocked it
How many regular heroes ascended you got
Than no one yet too early
then who should i go for with starge/TE and dragons?
isnt that the exact same?
no it has Knox first
so do i put knox in first then?
save TE and DI
dragon wishlist is in guide
well actually try to get one copy of Elthara
I guess that's the first priority now
and for TE its Ashemira only?
btw with gaze to 1 star do they mean get ascended 1 star one by one?
cuz i just got knox
Stargaze knox to ascended than two more copies needed for 1 star
1 copy wont do much imo i think its best to save incase a new broken hero comes
anyone got a rift team to replace Abelinda
But again i dont follow guide probably why i suck
Hmmm what heroes you using
Just save for now
Hi jacko
team 1 is the issue i just randomly threw it together
hi
Idk why its not working tbh its overpowered
Hows it going
not bad. Canada men's hockey undefeated in the Olympics 
Oh crap nice i just went past 300 in trift on accident lol

Now you’re locked in to 400
Just auto and forget
helo hythlo
I got too much other stuff to do lol
Cant auto and leave trift
I play on tablet way better performance
Not about performance. It’s about setting and forgetting it
I rather have 6x speed with no skip than lag and 6x speed taking weeks per 5 floors
Wildly missing the point 
@oak stirrup is this surprising
=campaign
=campaign
fr 😭😭
=compguide
=diamonds
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=quickstart
Quickstart Directory
New to the game? Here's some commands to resources which help you onboard!
Frequently Asked Questions=faqGeneral Guide=guideWishlist=wishlistCampaign 101=campaignTerminology=termsBeginner Todolist=todolistDiamond Priorityhttps://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1139293511695482972Resource Generating Modes=rgmSpending Guidehttps://ptb.discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994915682607177828
For more commands and other resources, check out the pins! (scroll down a little bit)
=faq
=guide
=wishlist
=todolist
Beginner TODO-List
- Read and follow =wishlist
- Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
- Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
- As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
- Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
- Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
- Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
- Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
- Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
- AFK
- Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
- After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
- Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31
Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn 
How much bait is lv21 pony?
@uncut kettle @muted anchor what floor do you think t100 will be in tr?
500
No, because unlike you we have better things to do than to manual each round and repeat until pass 
Auto for 20 minutes if no pass, check what's wrong, fix, back to auto, then come back like an hour later and find out you actually cleared in 5 minutes
Geez take it easy man i had alot going on this week
More reason for you to prefer auto and do whatever you need to do instead

Auto battle is not helpful when my lineups are not whaled on like yours

Still same shit, you auto after copying and then if you're still stuck next time you're back from break, you fix what's wrong and keep going
You can if you are in places like China 
But that also means you voluntarily surrender your freedom, I think
I believe that democracy isn't for all countries 
China very prosperous tbh. Amazing cities they have there
471

491
What?
You are kidding me
Are we going to have elthara 2

They missed the opportunity to use the oak inn for whale

I’m going to message Tataros

imagine one copy Elthara getting power crept already 
Oath marks worth the diamonds ?
Ikr
Red juice is a must get
Paper we don’t know yet
Probably okay, I’d get if you are not uber tight on diamonds
His cheat deaths are locked behind his si30
Elthara still the one copy queen
Hmm depends on if the star gazing is worth finishing, I am in daemia right now to getting to one star
Oh
I mean it’s pretty cheap
Like barely any diamonds
Does dragonspeak amp have a cap
2000 ? Like the reds… lol
safe?
Ye
Hi jd
ok, ivan too right?
Wait melon might be broken
Light work no reaction
Why
Gives like 126 dragonspeak amp to oddy
And it doesn’t seem like his s3 has an attack speed cap, meaning he’s gonna fucking steamroll
Uh…
Lets calm down has his skills been shown yet not only in chinese he has to be nerfed

He gets like an absurd amount of dragonspeak amp from his e30
I wish i was as smart as yall so i could show hero skills
Does this work good with oddy @pulsar marlin
Yes
Dude this guy is going to have 500 DSA
700
He gets 370 from his e30 or something
Does he have any flaws
And with pp coll he gets another 70
Price tag
Wait moth is % so ye easily 700 + DSA
That one too high
Is he better than envy as a hero
I don’t think so
Who jd lucretia
I'll be honest, seeing what they want you to see, as in all them skyscrapers and stuff, doesn't tell you the full picture, you really have to visit the rural areas to see what is truly going on
I refuse to believe with 700 DSA oddy still does no damage
Dis new hero?
Yeah oddy gets crazy DSA stacks
Oh wait 

New hero scales off AS
Does that mean new set of collections coming soon with AS
He gets 5 DSA for every 2 points of AS
Or it becomes age of mandatory 409+E8X
And his e30 gives him 100 AS
As in 9F is not enough you must now farm dupes
Nothing gives him AS in stats tho
Easy
time to build him quickly and torment would-be desperate people who need merc
So mainly it’s just melon mortas and moth
Moth gives % as so he’s gonna hit like 700 DSA
If Mortas comes back to meta would be so fun
I think he will shine with levi and hae
Wait where is his AS scaling
Where does it say this?
E30

Actually there's a big problem with this guy
What has that gotta do with AS?
DSA is dragonspeak damage bonus yes?
Level 4
That means, it scales by how many dragons you already invested 
His e30 gives him 150 AS
At max stacks, and each stack buffs damage by 20%
So like this fucker gonna reach like 2k DSA
Oddy sus incoming 

Only for autos
But 2k DSA auto is stupid
Isn’t 2k dsa just gonna one shot
His whole kit is built around autos
It’s like a ridiculous amount of damage yeah
Since DSA is like divine damage
Especially in camp
Ignores DR and DEF
Oh hell na this guy gonna just one shot
5 cheat deaths 
What is going on
Actually 6
Since his initial cheat death doesn’t need kinetic energy
And kinetic energy stacks infinitely btw
It’s just as and dsa boosts cap at 10, his normal damage buff stacks infinitely
Good thing I have 800 DIs 
He’s gonna be cr meta fs
Especially idre
Cuz idre gives like what 20 as per 1k energy
He’s gonna fucking reach 10k dsa
TS is prob just throw him with levi and melon
And nc I don’t see him being meta unless there’s a boss that requires dsa
450 🙏
I got a credit card 
Its even worse than that, because he buffs envy too
I will whale him if he’s giga broken
how
Let me find the graphic I was looking at
Wait wtf no envy buffs this guy
Envy gives 80 attack speed from shadowed core
So this guy reaches like ridiculous amounts of damage
I think at this point he’s either complete shit or he warps the meta around him like envy did
Cuz there’s no way this fuckers reaching 800 dsa and is mid
if he's that good though there is no way a team can afford both of them except in single team modes that kinda dont matter
Yeah he’s prob leeching melon from sion
Cuz melon gives him like 130 dsa
And mortas e60 gives him 200 dsa
And his own buff gives him 375 dsa+200% ds damage
Whats dsa
Bud I will whel him if he’s broken
Yeah I read the latest update, what buffs his auto now was written as team auto buffs
He honestly seem to work at 300 e30 as long as you feed him enough AS
Ahhhhhh okay
thats A 1*, now lets see ur DI stacks
I got a credit card 
Dragonspeak is the special damage type that dragons (And awakened Eironn) can do
If he truly stacks infinitely cuz I don’t see a cap on kinetic charges, I will swipe 
It’s also why Wei fucking melts campaign
Cuz ds ignores def
I was just reading dragonspeak damage on eironns skill lmao
I like how Reddit is writing him off alr
more of a hunch, but ive never pushed past 300 so not too sure
I got a frame once and doing it sucked 
I’m pulling him and if he sucks I quit
Reddit is.....interesting some times

It is worth? Somebody wrote Ivan should be priority as first
no
Well the s2 does read a lot like dgwyn
that would be a waste of grit even if what that person said was true. But Randle is the best early game hero
Yeah they saying he’s a tank
The whole no speed boost and instead increase the damage is her thing
And it made her too slow for anything
We'll see if he overcomes it
Okay, thanks
I mean maybe they are right. But like....equals sign newhero
He has the benefit of his dawn mace scaling off itself
Ig we will wait and see, cuz if his dawn mace scales fast enough he could be nc meta
Even at worse case he gives a 30% damage buff to backline
The thing about this game is that a hero can be obviously very very good pretty early (we knew Sion and Envy day one) but a hero being bad you can't really say for a while
Trishea took a long time to figure out imo
Trish now tower only 
And like extremely cope ass clears on r4
Pls dual mantle be actually good designed boss
That'd be useless lol
Literally less then mira
Not that I'm writing him off btw
Just saying, numbers wise that's a useless buff in a vacuum
We're too stacked for that to matter
Ye he seems like e30 or bust
His 9f and e60 seems to be ts invests
And make him similar to levi, granting good damage reduction
it do
forget ab silas, let's talk ab my goat numisu
Dgwyn in a nutshell btw. Same kind of thing. Cannot get faster, would be improvements to haste and AS become buffs instead. It's what makes her an AE monster but also killed her pretty quickly in other modes. We'll see how he does with his
Dgwyn will make a comeback one day
Maybe they make a coll one day that can make dgwyn more usable
@oak stirrup made it as low as 38 wish i screenshot it
Oh my I forgot numisu
Oh also do % AS buffs stack multiplicatively?
Friend sent me this vid of her losing lol😂 😂
If so this guy is literally stupid
@solar fractal 
Like some high Ks of DSA for autos

Ainz nuke comp is coming back
Really
yall like my amazing mercs.
Nah Ainz nuke is way too underpowered today, even Belinda is stretching
@oak stirrup top 20 TS arc maybe
Pfft please im not scared i got a perfect counter

unfortunately couldnt find a ukyo merc :c
U locked in Skylan?
So you're going after a second round poosh?
Oh wait nevermind that's same as everybody 
Them some fighting words
I need essance 😭 😭 😭
no idea. AS and haste testing was bs
Is this a bug gwyn comes back from dead in my friends vid

Oh
Maybe we can test once this guy comes out
Dude if they stack multiplicatively it’s actually so over
Numisu e60 time

This is what google thinks lol
no it's gwyn's passive
it's kinda weird, you should just read it
her +20
when she was meta in camp, we encountered a lot of similar weird stuff where her shadow would die independently of her
Oh hell na it’s actually jover
what are we even at now
this feels like frickin balatro 
150
150
Oh okay thank you my guy
Arthur being back was not on my 2026 bingo card
so 226 * 1.4 * 1.5 * 2.5

Moth
And his e30 buffs dsa by 20% per stack
So like multiply that by 3

Ok na wait
His second part of the skill doesn’t have a cap
Bro what are they actually smoking this man’s gonna reach like 10k dsa
I'm pretty sure that's just additive right
Sorry wasnt sure
Yeah second part is additive, infinitely
is he a warrior? theres a warrior arti w AS iirc
wait wait wait
Carnage moment
He’s a tank
Raine also gives AS
obv the best and greatest arti of all time

raine buffs 30
Actually do we even need melon
Right behind Pauldron of Burning Fury
U got new pcreep?
This guy is either mid as fuck or the most broken man ever
literalyl what is this game right now
oh that's true
Cuz he scales faster with more dragons
if this doesn't scale well, or he's really slow or somethign like haelia
he could be uber mid
His si20 helps since any dragon attacks helps him scale
who else was meta with normal gwyn
Tasi
numisu and arthur
Twins but twins isn’t attack speed, it’s haste
dura drape >>>
anyone else?
Also this is dsa not attack
Ukyo
So like damage formulae prob slightly different







