#classic-questions
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We currently cap out at codex 63 or something
That means we only get like 6 more oath marks if old one doesn’t leave
115 is with 2m is coll
I’m at 2 dupes
With her oath active?
108 is with 2 IS with oath active without any dupes
The RGN Jesus is on my side, first pull of the day
Yes
Level 63?
lvl 74 when gb unlock 63 when maulers unlock
this is so weird how can f2p 1 star new wilder in 2 weeks when hcp reset in 3 weeks
everyone's hcp reset at different times
ok im on my last go for this week trying to get Rem a +1 cover, im going to have to use a lvl up totem, what other 2 totems should i use with it?
guys im not sure how to proceed now, ive done almost all of the pot content and im missing like 2-3 copies to make 3 more ascended characters
I did 200 ashem pulls but couldn't get her to M 
mb actually 1 star is for the bonus stat only, just saw mythic is enough for event rewards 
yeah and bonus stat is kinda dookie (so far) I think I seen the math was like 1 level of it is a 1/4 of a tree trunk level lol
Ye somewhere in the 60s
I believe they also said if someone ascended all cele hypos and they counted it would be 90 something
Hey everyone, I could switch who against Lady Simona
why is my ivan shielding shuna instead of rem ? shuna has 156k atk and rem has 180k
i'm confused
the issue was daemia
ig rem can't receive a shield and give a shield at the same time
Done all 5* what's next
Hi. Any suggestion for next woke? Currently have:
Building Elth atm alr
So it will be something like, Zohra, KFC, Wippa
Amy thoughts on the new 4f yet?
much thanks! 🍺
the fact that she can't be targeted for like half the battle seems kinda broken
Planning to swap for aluc, then build gavus slowly 
hmm no good sub for gavus in that comp?
Look at teams
Cap
I let guildie win for frame dumby


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I’m really banking on the fact wath isn’t gonna be nc relevant once swap comes around 
i hope fawkes is swappable
Now that I ascended Randle i lvl him up the old fashioned way ? And what si he needs right now
when does swap usually comes ? march or april ?
April
Hope to god wath is irrelevant by then 
wish they would allow swapping draconics....
i hope not
Unfortunately, that will never happen.
Doing so will lower the value of HBs by a large amount. Lilith not stupid enough to shoot themselves in the foot.
i guess you're right... it would make p2w ppl mad
is eironn not used this ts buff
Should I be going for count snickerfang as a new player? Not necessarily exchanging bait for him but buying packs that contain him
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Is he a good pet and will it help at all toward reso levels, or no since he is a different rarity
No
Unlike Pegasus, who is actually useful before level 27, rabbit needs to be at least level 27 or he’s just a fraudulent bum
Oh I see. Thanks for the heads up!
We have 2 new pcreeps since dragons came out, I wouldn’t say impossible atp
I wouldn’t get your hopes up, but I wouldn’t say impossible either
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Anyone?
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Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
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Si30 daemia or save for si40 envy?
Tbh neither are necessary
Oh really? With my box who should I si next then
Si40 envy aint necessary
Daiemia prob
No, not really. It has a slight boost in NC but it works just fine at si30.
What si does saitama want again
Yh but i think daiemia need si30
The si30 dmg reduction isn’t great either…
She wants 9f, works fine at si20
30
I would hold. You’ve probably got important si40 characters coming up like Aurelia, and Westy
Do saitama with the dimblems from the store ideally. Patience is key for optimal f2p early-game.
I feel like by time I get westy, I should have enough material to get her si40
Is westy usable at mythic?
She really wants A1
Ok ig I’ll save my chest for now for Aurelia then
Isnt fawkes higher prio then west
Either way, you don’t have any super big priorities rn. Maybe Randle, maybe Daemia, but I say just hold.
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Woke Prios and TE income:
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Not updated yet let zww cook
No I believe there has been people saying Fawkes can be better than ashem but than envy and westy after still
Alr
Some ideas for TS teams please
It’s in discussion rn in the guide server. They’ll probably release an update in the near future.
Ty goat
And libierta after knox i think
i hope pippa doesnt become a one hit wonder
I hope she wont become relevant im too poor
People have been discussing how early Fawkes should come. He may be earlier than people think.

For a 30960 hero, he’s pretty darn good.
Based on your box i think u aint even got seal 18 so just try to make any team
Tanky, and a dps carry with multi-rgm usages
He doesnt need si40?
He doesn’t need it. It’s helpful but he works at si30 iirc.
Yeah I kinda wish I pulled him as my first woke instead of ashem and see how well it would had done in r54
fawkes needs si40 for some crs
So i should get him to 30960 and save for others like alvida or thoran?
Yeah but most earlygame players don’t use Fawkes for cr lol
always a risk. You’ll get around to him soon enough. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
prob
I would just ask when you have the materials and the hero. Come and ask again before you si40. Si30 is a safe invest.
Alr
Btw what is lavatune build cuz he prob my next cellpog
30960
Dam have so many 30960 i gotta build
me too
i need more heroes to get useful invests 🙁
i have to 40960 pipp but i'm waiting for the next hb to decide
I have fawkes talimar lavatune saitama and i need e60 on sjw probably
which should be very soon
Why the next hb?
I’m banning you from Ts rn.
shesh
from lap not mine
I’m banning laplap rn 
that fucker too my luck too
i'm waiting for swap to swap eugene with fawkes, talis is 30360 30960 will come pending rng lavas 30960 saitama 30060 when he becomes avaliable sjw 20960
look at his dias stash he doesnt need it either
Idk if i should swap my 40960 watha for thoran or just swap flora
Screw him 
Isnt saitama 30930
Just send box when event starts. People can advise then
Zww did some testing, he said at 30 he’s lowkey just a heal and cc bot
pretty sure his furn is ts only
trust me bro hat is the last guy you wanna be taking advice from lol
Lmao
At 40 wawkes is a dps
Yeah, they’re discussing zww’s results in the test server
thats solid at least thos waatha still strong in nc
Cuz game blessed me with 3 zohra copies for free
So I kinda am obliged to pull zohra 
a guildie of ours has also been going quite the unorthodox route in their r54 acc
Their testing could be very beneficial to the guide makers
i'm swapping eugene for fawkes
hopefully pipp doesnt fall out of meta along with fawkes
What’s he testing
selene being their first celepog and fawkes being the first woke with envy right after
Holy shit let him cook
Theyve been doing surprisingly well
Cuz Selene is actually good for ts
They recently got 2% in ts and it’s only been a month since theyve started testing i think
Ima be real, Liberta lowkey fraudulent
He’s a charm slave and orthos comp slave
But besides that he sees 0 use in ts, and is deadass actively nerfing ur wr in most comps
We should swap Liberta with Selene fr
is there a way to see how many woke pet copies you have
I hope ur good at counting 

selene needs 30960 for ts?
Nem?
the really lucky one uhh what was their name again.
(C-)Boader or Nemi
Probably the former because i don’t think nem is playing since he is busy
Nono, those are his names. Nem vs Nemi

Should i card alna to 9f or nah i. Got 4 card
whats the min for misha
20330 idk
are red chests or baits better from misty valley
No
209e00 (e30 is kind of free though)
cool cool, and what do u think about skipping lib and doing selene instead? saw some people talkin earlier
right now i have my knox at 20360, i assume selene wants 30960
I would say it’s a gamble. If it’s not proven, it could go well or poorly. Up to you to decide if it’s worth the risk.
Im already behind most in the new server, took a couple days and then some whales showed up, honestly dont mind taking a risk
What shoudl i do then
Selene is fine at 20960 too I think. Depends on your priority.
Hold them.
whats selenes team anyways? is she the main dps of a team?
You could maybe 1 card Knox if it gets near the end of Ts first calc and he still doesn’t have 9f.
Not sure what it looks like for earlygame. Haven’t been in earlygame for a while, could ask @solar fractal or @lucid summit
She’s good with envy wuci and shemira dims
i kinda wish i woulda built envy before shem, but oh well
Good lan/gavus/dae sub on those teams
@crystal yarrow @barren fjord @torpid seal what guild are you guys in?
Envy is very squishy lol.
Olympian
yeah but arent his teamates knox shuna anyways
Which one should i en 30 and en60
What should i choose?
Baits and red chest
🫡 thanks
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Priorities for Hero Engravings
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Still don't know which to en 60 ...
No one
E30 shuna Jerome Mira or saitama?
Can e30 eroin for the rewards then e30 Jerome->shuna
If I already have a built aluci is it worth pulling levi to M or should I just hold for 300 at next release?
Olympians is a great guild :)
Saitama->jerome->shuna->mira
Hold
I like the barrys 
Run while you can he’s trying to poach you
Never heard of them but looks like it’s alright :)
do you get enough white chests every week?
ty 
That’s what happened to me and am stuck on a basement rn
how much is enough?

Always need to look for active discord members that want to learn :)
We have candy trust me no kidnapping involved 
well im returning from like a 2 year break
Olympians is good guild. Fararara :)
TRUE RARA IS THERE
Didn’t farara move back though?
Oh yeah, I think that’s right
restart lol
Oh damn that’s a long break, what server?
Where is daemia used for early ts?
any of you nerds good with circuits
Like circuit analysis?
yes
Send
what circuit
i need v out
R11 = 6800
R12 = 1000
R13 = 6800
voltage is 2
arduinos?
i have 1 attempt left i keep getting told i got the wrong answer
oh those too old school for me
U use nodal analysis for this problem I believe
Been a while since I did those
you do ive done it twice got the same answer twice apparently its been wrong twice i will kepe trying
Ew
Why did you just show me this
I was this close to forgetting it ever enterd my brain
I hate physics
0.335
the funny thing is the Total V out since its a super position question IS THE RIGHT ANSWER and the v out A for the other side of the circuit is right aswell
Try .227
ok thats the answer to the other sidew
Bet
just show ur professor how good u are at afk arena and they will pass you
I would rather never mention i play afk arena to anyone i wish to respect me
Hello everyone, are there currently any working codes?
am i really gonna brute force it
Where is vout b
hey i respect you
na
What’s v6 and v5
wait fuck the values
V5 = 3
v6 = 2
R10/12 = 1000
R11/13 = 6800
it shows dedication, smart thinking, constructive critism, and acceptable to cyber bullying
ofc its the last question that fucks with me also i lowkey put the total value in with my orgiona lacculations and the total worked so LIKE wtf
=wishlist
The emo graveborn guy with white hair is still the carry?
Try .341 for vout b
i got 0.3459 but i dont remember superposition
this is actually so annoying
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0/76
Oh I need 1 more copy of icariel as well

is ok though I got none either.
Did you also use 70 shards
I dont count but i basically popped everything.
cards in tavern, cards in bag as well.

also why am I losing.
must be the noob teams i copied.
Skill issues 
why is bro playing golden frontier
shrimple. it fun.
i was going to defend him and say he probably wants these, but yeah i can't defend him now he's said its fun
=factiontower
are you saying diamonds are not fun :c
diamonds are, but getting them isnt
can anyone explain to me what does the rabbit pet do?? like reading it sounds like a cc pet, but it doesnt cc for shit so, wtf does it do?
should i be using my 2 choice pulls a month? i currently have 2 and they reset in 12 days.
can anything here hurt the temporal rift boss?
yeah
I can get lvl 18 chest rn, I have 20 spice if I take lion and blade ridge off battery. Should I do that? Or just leave them on until I can get reso 18
How can I get this time down
try t3 reso boots on Lib and try taking his top row of furn off
Unrelated how long did it take you to get where u are with beasts
also maybe put more in your might tree
Copy haste of Marci lib and ortho of players who have similar trees
That round is very complicated
Started mid September of 24
once my rc is at 240 do i then need to keep the 5 that were originaly levelled on the rc in the slots?
No
i should rephrase that, do i need to keep them in the slots if i want them to be maxed level?
Yes
Rc doesn’t automatically upgrade all your heros
Just the ones in the rc slots
My tree is too puny to compare with t200
=ratio
How do you kill the eluard at the end
Which flight coll is better? I’ve been seeing full attack but would you want the higher attack ones on your carries?
Yes use atk on ur carry and fatk on support
Okay in the scenario of Ivan and Randle, they should both get the bigger attack one right? Since Ivan gives attack based on his
not good enough for recast?
Is it T3 or T4 that locks gear to a certain char?
atk both
both

does dragon gear exist?
yes
only in very small number of places
i guess my elthara is stuck at T2 for the time being then
the only way really is events and the dragonforge shop
if i only have elthara is it pointless me opening the blue draconis cards i have? i just got 4 from doing a couple of the trials.
theres only 1 blue drag anyway
tho it filles your heor box
yeah thats what im thinking
Why am I getting no spirit
probs better keeping in bag rather than filling box
I've got so much dust but no spirit rn
what is spirit?
exp?
Yeah
just keep pushing Kings Tower and any Peaks of Time you havent done
I'm very new when does auto battle get unlocked?
21
Lifend 
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Campaign how I hate you
@charred jetty Ik I asked and I tried those comps but with my missing afawks Aerinn do stable comps exist
I got 4 card should i 309 alna
I have 16 red cards, where should I use them or should I keep pulling?
I want to 9f plippa, anchor lady, wawkes, and saitama. But thats 21 red cards, and whoever gets left behind would make pulls much lower value
Doesn't pippa want 9f
She does. So does wawkes and anchor lady and saitama iirc
Is dupes on pippa aren’t terrible, so less value wasted imo
Ooh good call actually
Couldn’t tell you prio, but seems high
Probably lower with the +30 is on the new powercreep but I don’t know where the falloff is
It doesn’t seem like their is a falloff, it’s just for every +20 is more than enemy
Gave plappa 8 red cards and left her on for dupes
How much IS does her coll want? 4 +1 or 5?
Does she want any nodes or is e60 flat fine?
I went haste atk, attack probably not as important
I just have haste

when do we use the gold furn cards?
you can just always use them theyre basically useless
Whenever you need them. The furniture recycles for the same as the cars
Sell them
only safe the mythics
The furniture recycles for the same pow that selling them nets you. Just use them on any heroes and they will eventually recycle
Poe*
Its not worth the trouble, just auto-assign your pulls
Your pulls alone will fill all empty slots fairly quickly and reliably
Or just sell all legendary
@delicate moon hello mr sea cow
Oh I know. But I open a new hero and I have gold cards I’ll just burn them
It doesn’t do much. But meh
I like keeping the slots full 
So real but I’m to poor
So do I until I was desperate for some Pippa furn and emptied them all got so much coins from it
I will probably do that one day but that seems time consuming
It took SO MUCH FIME
But I was under the impression it might get me a t200
It did not
FUCK imma have to get bald dude again next week

Not furns but draws
My goal is to slowly eliminate all legendary furn by giving every character 9f
2/3 there
Daemia or Randle t1? I have seal t2 with ghost t1 should I go crown t1?
You can't really tell what's better by staring at them, who and what you face is random, to figure out synergy you really have to use your knowledge then cook a team and check after each round
The debuff gives you an idea but in practice heroes do meet those things are not even the bis thanks to lack of balance in this game
If you have reliable guides or guild helpers, trust them instead
Also, first round gives you nothing but misinformation in the first place
Why’s the first one give Mis-info?
You're more or less, versing bots so your win rate is very often, overly inflated compared to actually playing against other players starting at next round after
For all you know you could brag about 96% win rate being top 10 and then next round game mess with you and drop you to %
Ah I see so my first teams don’t matter as much the bots will inflate me I need to focus on rounds 2 and beyond where my teams matter more
First round is just there for game to get a basic idea of what your starting rank should be so then you're matched properly in next round
If you are doing well in first round then game will think you should be pitted against stronger players which cause most of you to lose an lose and drop your rank further until your "ELO" is where game thinks you should be
That makes more sense ty they kinda test you against bots first to kinda give skill based match making
2-3 teams is very volatile
Wrong though, you still want to do your best even if first round is not accurate, sometimes people forget to change teams, other times being behind can be tough to climb up, because you winning doesn't mean other people won't keep winning to keep distance
Important ones is 4-5 teams, which is around where the first rewards calculation is
And also 6-7 teams which is 2nd calc
Inbetween calculations is mainly for testing and figuring out what works best for you
Ngl I wish they change it so people who disregard early teams also suffer extra instead of letting some rando whale climb from 20% to instant top 10
In a single round
Like your performance during the climb should not be overlooked and point bonus for being at low rank greatly reduced
Make climbs actually a serious business, if you slack too early and for too long, you should not be allowed to reach the top in time, period
thinking about last round this makes a lot more sense I started doing rlly well staying around 10% finally but I ended up finishing like 15% in the end after it went up to more teams
That generally happens when the bigger players slacked off and only go serious on calculation round, and your roster and lineup may not do well against their updated teams
Then again, I don't even see anyone outside top 100 as "serious player" 
I missed the first 2 days of ts and still finished t100
Like the first few really doesn’t matter
It does matter if ur pushing like t10
And that's the problem, they should greatly reduce climbing power so now your early rounds matter more
Pls do 
If you're % for too long the point difference should be so punishing you might not even make it even with excellent final round
Getting t100 is rough I started mid December but usually when I check t100 rosters even at the bottom at like 99 they have like sjw which I don’t
Oh ur r54?
Yea
SJW is not even the best team, you have more things to worry about
SJW does not do well in burst seasons because he needs ramping up
No, it never matters
Damn rlly?
Nope
If you're that strong you quickly cruise up from behind if you somehow got there
The people that are stable t10 basically only set teams on calc day
If you're like 99duck you can probably shoot back to top 1 even if you were outside top 100, it's fundamentally wrong
They need to nerf the climbs hard
Or not even lol. Like I think Kaia said once he updates his ts teams only a couple times a year
You wan some tasty secrets? He's been piloted for a long time
By pros from CN
Aka ones who actually try hard in CN server themselves
It's overkill sure
My mentor from R28 retired for a while now but his account is still top 10 in TS this entire time
Some regions are stagnant I wish I was there
I’ve gone from ~20 to 1st setting teams before last set of 50 battles
Ended up almost 100 points above 2nd
As much as I feel bored and get the adrenaline rush, still too maso for me
Yeah curious to see how the new oath buff affects TS
Winners remain winners, some may rise to the occasion because they only needed a bit of the right boost, losers remain losers
Kisaka hot takes
Extra 30IS is not going to make you ascend to heavens against other people already with bigger Pippa who will most certainly have their IS boost
How tf do I beat the third one? Do I just want to try and get one star knox?
Maybe in R54 if you mad scientist your way to building her first sure
also fyi I might spend some money so someone might need to help me
Easier way compared to try figuring out comp is to literally copy other solutions
Was about to stargaze for Selene but now I need to drop a bunch of Dias summoning new hero for marks or w/e
so copy other people’s comps?
All I can say Selene probably won't help you climb rank, she's like niche usage but then again I cannot comprehend low tier usage
Maybe at lower rank brackets she's used a lot more who knows
I would use her in nc, cr and TS lol
In a way you still could climb higher just by nature of getting more used celepogeans
Unions rework when
TS is still a have vs have nots scenario that, if you have everything then you have easy top
The new system is the new union even though I have no idea how Shemira is related to Estrilda 
The Oath mark stuff? I've barely been able to touch it smh
You must get new flying raccoon girl to M before you can even unlock it
Getting to A1 is optional because it's just her extra power
I guess its worth the hcp then
If you need Pippa IS this urgently sure
No you don’t
Nvm then 
Oh what that's too F2P friendly, should hotfix, anything they already invested on should just disappear
That's not the buff he's talking about tbh
It's the one that's lighting up cr right now
The overall team buff or
This
It's basically flat additional dmg
Still too F2P friendly since everyone got same level
Lol not this week
New players struggle
Next week maybe. Depending on what they add
Well I mean why do you expect new players to do CR 
Next week could be nice
They need to buff CR rewards, though
Should know this or next reset for test
Punish anyone who didn't invest the right heroes let's go
No Eironn? Off with yer head
(whoosh)
In a way this is still good but I wish for a way to filter out people further
Old players with pretty much everything all get the same boost and that's wrong
How big of impact in NC?
Because imagine gating R8 even harder now that bigger accounts get seconds faster that lets them go faster against skilled small account like Himmel
@craggy oak Now Eironn build priority shoots up
Still needs a not so easy way to climb to 40 without spending to gate each tier further ngl
Like when horse came Julius almost instantly 42 and many of us were climbing to 36 slowly and you can really tell their performance setting people apart
Yeah Selene is actually good

Is naroko good for early campaign?
Do I gotta build Icariel all the way for this new oath thing?
It should unlock with just the shards, you only need her A1 for her own buff
What shards?
I still think it should have been mandatory ascended her before you're allowed to do it though
The ones that give you oath levels
You get them from building wilder and their awakened
Is it worth the diamonds to hcp?
Roster dependent

It's worth if say, you have thing else to spend on 
I was considering Lysander but not much else
If you have hors 27 then you can go for that OPAF hors TS team
I do not
Hot take of the day: I think this oath thing is just temporary power boost and it will go away after event ends
Idk I’m 19 without using any dia
so @charred jetty do you want ica a1
Should i ascend villanelle?
Test unlocks LB today in Oath Tree. We should be able to see who, if any, are past Ashem
already? Maybe dis not temporary after all, anyone who miss out on building the new heroes will just miss out on red juice that they must buy later
=wishlist
Suffer F2Ps! (except who I treasure dearly)
For Hat, 10 times the suffering is needed
Yea. Also could be rewarding to players who build all heroes
What’s a timeline of getting enough DI (750ish from what I hear) to ascend a HBD?
Like 10 months ish
What are the main sources in those 10 months?
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Looking for a Tierlist?
Tierlists are generally quite untrustworthy in this game, because there's too many nuances and different factors that make certain heroes good or bad for different accounts. As a general guide, use the links below:
- 4 Faction Heroes:
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- Awakened Heroes: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284
- Dragons/HB: https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1232360686705967235, But generally avoid them in the early game

NC, Drac Temple Exchange
and dream store and guild store
What’s the exact math
It was like hb release every quarter, 10 from guild 10 from dream and 1 weekly
10 per month from guild, 10 per 6 weeks from dream
and however many dragon forge gets you at stage 8
30 per cycle?
stage 12 is all DI all scrolls all reds and some of something else iirc?
No it’s all di all scrolls and like 2 reds
Or all di all reads 2 scrolls and some cores
so that's 5 reds
I could afford 1 red and 2 scrolls
After last drop
Ye if you buy all scrolls it’s 5 reds
I was wrong about getting more but you get most of the reds if you get all scroll all DI
i dream of the day i can build another HB
400 DI ill be there by next drop hopefully
I dream of the day wath becomes irrelevant
I dream of the day I can build a HB without it feeling terrible
Its such a weird value proposition f2p cause like...they don't really pay for themselves but you have to do some
so it never feels good
especially when you spend 800 cards on Levi 
i got 10 levi in 548 DI, my next pull is gonna be so bad
uhh i believe so
i guess i pulled more but thats the only screenshot i have
oh wait no thats my lan pulls
hold pls
here it is

dw ill need 800 for my next pull
ill just send it with my 400 right now as punishment 
on the upside my newly built afawkes is putting in work on the gb tower right now
and hopefully i can get t100 TS fairly easy now

im missing abaden, restarted back in the day and im missing the gen1 wokes 
Since wawkes took waden tower spot
yeah at this point i dont really feel any issues missing them, the only one i feel now is KFC and thats really only in CR which i kinda ignore anyway
Brutus is because maulers are so bad
wutus was my first woke and unfortunately got swapped last year
and Solise has the recurring torch event thing
but I'm sure there are ways to do that now
same bud 
Well I pretty much did him and solise together
next swap (given no HB) will prob be eugene i never see him anywhere and i can guild coin him slowly if i really need
yeah I will do Eugene too. Could do Baden but Eugene I can get back
but if I can swap Hildwin I am gonna
if its HB swap idk what ill do either hildwin or ill pull for skylan since i have him L+ already, and then swap him to elhara prob
yeah in retrospect i wish i had been buying them every month
I thought for hero swaps it's like grit everything in your bag also get swapped?
As if let people tactically swap and then rebuild quickly with shard
not shards im pretty sure
oh true actually i guess i wouldnt have to pull skylan first
just swap and then pull
i also have 9f for skylan just sitting around
But I gues what they can do to fix it is literally not allow dragon swap
As if let F2P get 700DI for free, man, make them buy it
true chat
It makes it fair for people who come later and miss out, too
honestly i kinda like that it hasnt been included, makes my choice much easier
Until the day when spenders can comfortable 5* all new releases without overspending, swapping dragon should be prohibited
TE is fine only because top performers can more or less get them for free each new release
hopefully afawkes gets me back into consistent t100 so i can have my TE income back
Sadly none that I’ve found that allow you to auto
U want sure way to top 100? As long as you're not in 54 just build every hero the top leaderboard uses
Until you get the full setup, you’re forced to pick your poison between thoran cheese, tasi cheese or Bert charm
R42 i think ill be good but well see
Or go with dynamic compset, which I really dislike
Just auto your single stages, change team, clear -4, then repeat
Hahaha I encountered many of them before, I eat most of them like breakfast 
I mean if you want it I can get it 
sounds about right
up to you if you wanna lose 3-4b this week
do you have her M for the ink alr?
lb 
Wait you actually do need M for ink? Oh right the reward not tree unlock
How hard can it be most people have more than 4x HCP
Not yet
i has ica 1* 
ink keeps going to A
Ahahaha alt actually top ranked in raccoons last twisted
atk +7%
6000 poe from ship and the ability of using ink to give her 1* for her own 7% boost
the oath mark gives
are there multiple levels to the mark?
Any level 40 yet
like if I give WEst one
Oh yeah…
will she have another waiting
i dont believe so, i did westy and ica its just that one
Should I wait?
maybe keep her M then
I will probably do WEst now then
I don’t like this forced you must do dumb investment thing
next week you can do west shem pippa
It’s actually so predatory
i dont like ica either
it just stays as activated
I like how merc don't get it unless they already unlocked
Thing is it’s usually a terrible idea to blow all the resources you got from a new powercreep launch on your first week
Because you have no idea how many good investments there could be
yeah youre probably not wrong, well at least westy should be good and i prob just wasted a little on ica
Like 12% HP is good, but if you had to skip like 12% atk on lan or something because of it you’re literally trolling
I mean you have 14 days to make the decision, not have to rush right now
Longer
well we wait 1 more week to decide
14 days to decide on HCP
Have infinite time to decide OMs
Well at the cost of RGM ranking
Yeah see, you don't necessarily need to go in headstrong, that's generally the same thing with every new release - people who in first gets the advantage if they're good
I’d rather have lower ranks for now and save the resources than blow it and get slightly better ranks
I think if they don’t make this whaleable, everyone should too
but like west shem hp its good right?
at least unlock it for the extra 1.8 next week
Yeah it’s good, but what if like bert got +10 haste
There's also the "try before you buy" option of hero trial to see if you think they are worth
bud dont you still have like 60 ink after doing that
enough for 3 more
What if they release a barrage of good OMs
Can you even get level 40 yet
After lb drop you can
you know what, next week we gonna know
oh wow oath mastery is strong
Sweet
Yeah
So I think hold until next week at least
Well actually we know when test gets patch
Elder tree 2.0 let's go, finally it has meaning to backbuild heroes
Maybe, hopefully
I just sorta assumed since it was locked to certain modes it wouldn't just be....all the modes that matter
Take that scrubs using Shemira as fodder! 
Back build awakened for instant 10000 or something
you mean +550
By the time we get lb, should be more than enough for 40
Damn where did I get my maf from, PE teacher probably
They should also, give you more for each SI40 you did 
@oak stirrup 100% through 4 battles so far, we are so back
Naw man, look at Himmel and stuff go, they low tree and still kick most people arse in RGM
It filters those who are truly talented away from the majority, which are frankly mediocre at best

i feel like ive ascended, i feel the %er washing away

Your biggest mistake is the fact that you take round 1 at face value, soon the round overnight will teach you how to be human (教你做人)
That being said, how you rank at first day tend to give a good idea of how you will eventually rank
i will hold the line
How did you get so many codex fragments? I can’t seem to get more then this
he's on test server
he has the LB shards already
Got it! I thought I was missing something
Most people should be stuck at your point 
Any thoughts on which pet is better/more value to bring beyond level 42? The nightfall Pegasus or the count snickerfang?
Just do what Julius do 
if you're that big a whale shouldn't you have like advisors from your guild to discuss that with? 
what do the different colours of oath marks do?
wet blanket


PLEASE
Kisaka inspired me so much I might whale the next highborn 
nothing
alr I’m thinking of spending $10-15 dollars what should I buy?
The tier of buffs they get, red is highest tier
sure yea
but you can't pick anything
like its not like you can choose to put a red one on the squirrel or a purple one on wes
10-15 dollars gets you nowhere, you need to spend roughly 20 a month to see noticeable progress
they release a mark for someone, it costs 20 ink, it has a stat, a buff value and a color. its all fixed
the color doesn't even necessarily give you an idea of how good it is really lol

like the purple one for squirrel is 7% which ~1M
on a coll. The red ones for Wes and Ashem give 12% which is ~1M
on a coll
and then the red one on Pippa gives 30 IS. Which is ~1M+
on a coll
so it literally tells you nothing at all
never mind then I’ll just stay f2p
Also I assume we aren't really sure on the value of the diamond exchange for the codex?
I mean
you should probably buy it out lol
you've seen what's happening in CR right?
Yeah I thought so. But idk. Where does ink even come from rn? Every source seems time limited
so far we have 40 ink every 42 days and then 80 ink per release of a hero with this codex promo
which likely includes every non-woke 4f
and possibly many more types
When do LB shards come?
next week
Dragon shards 
Oh so after CR
yep
Alright 
either HCP squirrel to A1 or take a ~3b dmg haircut this week
I have her A1
well then I guess your decision on that
Spent every faction scroll and luckily not too many hcp
What’s gonna make a difference doing $20 a month?
Buying monthly passes
initially yea probably monthly passes. perk probably better after a bit. once reso18 woke pet small pack probably best value but you'd still want to do at least occaisional perk
Isn’t perk pass the best until you buy level 4
I’m 0 on all scrolls since graveborn boy just wont show up
Probably used 1k+ of both scroll types and he’s M+ missing 2 copies
Shalltear garrison when < / 3
perk level 4 is extremely high value but mostly just shortens the time between meaningful coll runs compared to standard perk. if you have a stockpile of cards and totems you'll find any level of perk to be very high value cause of the ability to double card
Icic
Level 4 is also super expensive
his ship is gone and he doesn't do anything though so what's the rush there?
It was like 750 right
Fabled
ah
I’m in level 800 where I get diamond 1 or 2
Planning to use next swap to move wukong onto some garbage like tarnos for fabled progress
Isn’t tarnos like actually decent for ts
Sometimes
~$300
Varies somewhat though cause perk points are like vip points and don't give the same points per dollar in all packs
but assuming you get it mostly from renewing perk pass over time, It's ~$300
And perk 3 is like $150
yep
Perk 3 is aight, does help quite a bit
perk 5 is like $1500 though lol
36 totems used also gives an attack card
Monthly champions of esperia and twisted bounties also good to stay ahead?
like buying nobles?
Yeah the $25 deals for red chests and baits
Those are not the best value but if you already bought the best then they’re fine
if you're looking at spending ~$100 a month then yea
the baits noble is quite good pre reso18
I bought bait noble every month until reso 18
more staffs per day too
not then level 4
level 4 bumps it to 4 per day. level 5 has the same
I compared to level 3 there cause that was the prior time runs per week increased. it doesn't increase at level 4
I was gonna say that lol
i have perk active on gus right now and I legit have no idea what to run for
there are some colls I could use but the limiter is MW
and no amount of perk really fixes that lol
just makes it worse cause you have so many more cards then you can use lol
like, every good run need MW so its at least 2 gold totems runs and u cant do 20/30 gold totems / week anyway
unless u go full blue and expect some natural 4m+ by luck
Would you say it noticeably increased how quick you were able to reso 18?
Well yes, but that was also a long while ago. Not sure how bait income is now
The baits income is so fkup right now
need 30k of them everytime a new woke pet come
I barely pull for normal pet these days
I mean you need like ~91k baits for reso18. Baits noble is like what 1k/month? F2P with good rgm income takes like 1.5 years to get reso18. So that's like 5k a month, you shave off 2-3 months ig
I haven’t pulled for normal pets at all since a few months before woke pets
probably more now because good rgm income doesn't exist for new f2ps the way TS regions are now
But some NC runs did need some normal pet like the panda for marci
you only need 10k baits to take a woke pet to level 27. 14.5k for level 30
so unless you're planning to go beyond that, anything above is just excess for normal pets
Should go for 30 anyway
not if youre f2p
dont mind me i go for 33+
they give good powah for surpassing pcap
ya'll how many furn dupes does lib need to reach 81 haste
depend on his SI too, did it 40 yet
my lib? yep si40 already
all on hanging furn?
Usually u do +1 first since they buff most
But i forgor which row give haste, gotta recheck that ur self
alright , thankyou! 
i just 1* ashemira should i build envy or aestrilda next ?
Wait actually, zww doing some important testing rn
asking who should i save my furn cards for? i’m at 11
Oh ded zww
should i just do that all rn lol
.-.
No, honestly it’s better to save cards unless they will increase your rgm performance.
makes sense
I’m pretty sure Ashem/knox/dae are far more important for 9f. I’d consider 1 carding heroes to finish prio 9f. Maybe worth carding dae once you finish her.
Jerome/alvida are nice to have but 100% not worth carding
Honestly not even sure I’d do alvida 9f rn unless you’ve got all other prio furn
Too many important si40 to build early game, and not enough white income probably
so you’d recommend getting to 7/8 to card prio 9f?
ah i understand tyty, finished 2.8% so i’m trying to invest into whatever’s best so i can hopefully land top 2% this ts

Just hoard cards like how JD would advocate for hoarding resources and not invest and just give up trying to poosh RGM ranks
Earlygame is just about how fast you can get to late mid-game
Got two of this trying to get new flying raccoon girl
That's a squirrel?
@dapper gate TS check 
Huh, attracted one copy of new girl on both accounts
HCP 
Hi
do temporal rift buff reset each season ?
Of course they do, you really expect buffs to carry over?
guys do celestial have any hero that can solo tower like knox ?
Awakened Athalia can, to an extent, but really you should be building whole teams to push content
It's worth to buy codex fragment for diamonds?
Seems not, but i see few upgrades on lvl 1
I mean this
it’s pretty cheap and it’s time-gated resources, so generally yea. the radiant ink is an absolute MUST, but the paper is kinda meh value so it’s up to you
Same question as "Do you want to be competitive?"
=comptiers
=earlymulti
Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines
Meh, looks like more p2w for now
Guys what is the coll for knox??
There's no one size fit all collection for any hero, if there was then Lilith did a terrible job with a feature that should be making people spend for
yea you’re fine to skip it, but you should buy the radiant ink
=wishlist
I can ascend either Vika, Gorren or Anasta to Mythic, which one should I choose? I know it's recommended to ascend only when I have 8 copies, but currently I need to ascend one to raise the level cap.
noted i'll buy only the raidant ink next time
Spending diamonds doesnt seem rly p2w
how long does it take for a new player to have a strong enough team for ts ? i thought i only had to compete with players from my server but its actually a bunch of servers, i want those te rewards so bad lol
Hello @wide elk,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
When you finish 3 celepo and 2 wokes
i see, ty
Gorren ig
=guide
Damn that’s low 😭
Not even auto just like not require a new 5 set each battle
is classic better or companions to play/start
Which one is better in your opinion
like reward,f2p wise
so classic is better for f2p players
i think it doesn’t matter much, spenders will have a hard edge on f2p players in either mode, but you can still rank high given enough time and good investment choices. i like classic because it has more heroes and fun gamemodes
companions might be fun too, have not tried
nice
ok thanks
lol i found my old account on classic
Should i start a new account or keep playing this
I think so but check with the criteria =restarting
100% restart
Alright
F2P can compete
With a few factors
DEDICATION
GOOD GUILD
Friends who spend
A bit of luck
And CAPITALISING on the luck
Do you want to be competitor
And for a F2P you don’t have choice you have meta
There’s no choice woke 1 is Ashem
Cele hyp 1 is Knox
What is that
Competitive
Also if you plan to be in this channal a lot get used to my inability to spell
damn you really started your motivational speaker arc
alr ig
seems to be able to spell fine
@uncut kettle ^^^
We need a new bunch of f2p and low spends
Last proper bunch was
Me,snap,centeral,omega
I'm not that old 
=beasts
Beasts
Bud zww research is in the process
Perhaps wawkes#1 and Selene #1 isn’t too far off 
Absolutely no way Ashem gets dethroned
IMO she already has
She goes 2nd then
3rd or 4th probably
Again not ranked in order of endgame usefulness, ranked in terms of progression pathing





