classic-questions

[solar fractal]

It’s the best one others are bad

[open bloom]

Cool beans thank you

[olive jewel]

Wings have some uses, but at level 3 only and they are very minor improvements overall

better off just making more, better storms

than splitting resources across both

[open bloom]

I’m tryna get a better storm but this is what I have rn

My luck with blues have been very minimal

[solar fractal]

M atk good enough for early game

[main jackal]

Which one is the most valuable?

[open bloom]

Alr cool thank yall

[open bloom]

=exchange

[gilded sapphire]

For exchange events and chests: If there are no special exchanges (DIs, Dragon Reds, Dragon Gear, L Totem card etc.):

• Reds if less than 3 si30s
• Baits before pet reso 18
• Juice post pet reso 18
  Otherwise, ask in chat for more information.

[solar fractal]

Depends on what you need

But always take baits if your Pre reso18 baits

[main jackal]

Thanks

[winter halo]

No need since we already know that's me

[olive jewel]

@winter halo

[winter halo]

[olive jewel]

[formal badger]

So like. Is there something I’m not realizing with Demonic Nemora. Like mechanic wise. Cause this is the second time now that I’m just 1 damage away from the next tier. I’m unsure if that’s really bizarre luck or an actual thing.

[charred jetty]

evil nem is just like that

everyone stuck on the same damage count

I wish they'd bring the OG event back sometimes

make those the recurring halloween events/christmans events (with ice shem)

definitely more fun and afk vibe than the pumpkin stuff we have to do every year

[olive jewel]

you damage her by killing her summons. Being one away means you killed one less group of summons than people ahead of you, you dont actually need one more damage

[formal badger]

Okay that makes a lot more sense. Thanks guys!

[cobalt vale]

Got randle to e30 what should i engrave next and why do i not get a special skill?

I don't get it

Does it mean i have to get it unlocked lvl 4

Oh damn

Thanks for the explaining,any idea on how should i continue his engravings past 30? Its my first engraved hero ever

[drowsy terrace]

[cobalt vale]

Alright,perhaps i should get my ivan to 30 aswell

[drowsy terrace]

That's probably smart yes

But check out =engraving to see if you have anyone else that needs it more first

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Hero Engravings

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994910793214722140

[cobalt vale]

Damn i should aim for knox since hes 1* thanks

[harsh acorn]

Knox is fine at 20 or 40. He is the first prio si40 I believe though

[tepid raft]

Hi peeps

[grim hamlet]

I hit 200 colls somehow. Some types were more aggressively culled to make room then others lol. The oculus is only because I haven't managed to make a storm with more fero yet

[charred jetty]

weirdly pippaw is not very good against naroko

despite her kit being a summon counter

[grim hamlet]

Does saitama murder Nadia?

[solar fractal]

Against*

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100

[charred jetty]

why is my typing so desynced from what I'm actually trying to say now

[grim hamlet]

more caffeine required

[olive jewel]

[charred jetty]

maybe too much LLM spamming

[tepid raft]

Rank 93 lets gooooooo

[charred jetty]

BoB?

[oak stirrup]

This shit face out of top 50 let's goooooo

[nocturne oak]

LETS GOO

Who is he to you?

[oak stirrup]

You know how arena got merged with other servers? He's just one of the pricks that got mixed in that eventually I'll pull out, but for now he still has over 100RC advantage

I would love for him to drop to %er but R40 is overall weaker breed

[olive cape]

Should I garrison shuna with the resources that I have? I already have rem garrisoned for 20 more days

[oak stirrup]

Gah

[oak stirrup]

That depends if:

• Do you need to use her now?
• Can you sustain garrisoning both (shouldn't be hard post dim release since you have nothing else much to spend on)

[olive cape]

I would use her to push campaign cause im at 33-28 and I need 3 teams. I can provide pics with the heroes that I have if it helps

And probably I could sustain both

[charred jetty]

another 12 streak run ended by double tasi

[brittle warren]

This team is so 💩 . t50 somehow tho. Do I need Lysander/alveda full invest for it to work?

[charred jetty]

needs pony 18 and alvida 40

[river shuttle]

Alvida si40

[brittle warren]

Should I get alvida si40 soon? Would probably secure me in t50. @river shuttle . Also on the cusp of r8 t20%, though, so reds might be better spent on someone who gives value in both nc/ts

[naive vigil]

=advanced

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1404717289965879337/Campaign_Guide_v2.jpg?ex=689c346c&is=689ae2ec&hm=ee85d263bbe068adcae458abb6608f26b2b3b966d0190824e2f0735b3f883605

[autumn gull]

t100 -> t50 is a good difference but still kind of minimal, i’d say NC invest takes priority, especially since alvi si40 is literally pure TS, its not even needed for CR at all

[autumn gull]

also, i’ve basically got your account but levi over skylan and haven’t pulled woke yet, how do you like your choice of thoran over fawkes? would you recommend him still?

[river shuttle]

Skylan is for ts ig

[autumn gull]

oh yea that’s just preference, but i meant thornan/fawkes choice

[brittle warren]

I’ve had thoran for a long time, but if I had to choose rn I’d probably take fawkes honestly

I could put envy into r1 instead of r5 if I had wawkes

[molten canopy]

@brittle warren how many more times do you have to Garrison Rem before she is free and you don't have to use dimensional stones

[brittle warren]

I’ve had her done for like 6 months bro

[molten canopy]

Dude you could have led with that

[river shuttle]

I think fafkes brings more overall value

[brittle warren]

Why is that relevant 😭

[molten canopy]

I'm sorry I'm mistaken you for somebody else

[brittle warren]

Haha thought so

[brittle warren]

I’d agree

[molten canopy]

@olive cape how many more times do you have to Garrison Rem before she is free and you don't have to use dimensional stones

[hasty flax]

Companion gaming

[molten canopy]

@hasty flax what's going on are you trying to companions account

[hasty flax]

New phone. Downloaded game and it forced me to do companions tutorial

[harsh acorn]

…

[molten canopy]

It should just let you press profile pic and go to classic

[hasty flax]

Yeah after doing 2 forced battles it finally let me

[molten canopy]

That's weird I just downloaded the game on another device 3 days ago and it didn't force me to do any battles it did force me on companions though

[hasty flax]

Wtf i tried but everyone was grey’d out

[naive vigil]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[naive vigil]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[naive vigil]

=te

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[dark musk]

That’s a W

[molten canopy]

Like I said that is weird what kind of phone did you download the game on iPhone or Android because I downloaded mine to an Android

[hasty flax]

Iphone

[naive vigil]

Is there a engraving guide?

Or it doesn’t matter

[drowsy terrace]

=engraving

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Hero Engravings

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994910793214722140

[naive vigil]

Ugh it’s going to take awhile

[molten canopy]

And what was the previous device you have the game on

[hasty flax]

swapped from iphone 14 to 17

[molten canopy]

Okay I don't even know how you set up an iPhone I've never had one I don't really want one I know Android you can use your Gmail and send everything from your old phone to your new phone

[charred jetty]

how are you doing in NC rn

[hasty flax]

Not bad

[hasty flax]

Yeah i sent everything over but afk didnt transfer data

[crystal yarrow]

Guys is pippa gonna be a higher prio than thoran?

[pulsar marlin]

Prob?

[drowsy terrace]

idk

[brittle warren]

3m 20s, 22%

[drowsy terrace]

she would need a solid ts comp to be in

[molten canopy]

What do you mean

[crystal yarrow]

Idk man i have thoran at 1 copy and 3f

[drowsy terrace]

she has the upper hand on him in CR tho

[crystal yarrow]

Like should i start building pippa or thoran first

[molten canopy]

Do you have envy built yet

[hasty flax]

She is broken everywhere (idk casual built her on my acc, i havent tested)

[pulsar marlin]

Damn that’s pretty good

[crystal yarrow]

What is her build?

[drowsy terrace]

idk where youre looking but i havent seen her do well in TS or atleast improve any comps

[drowsy terrace]

no joke 40960

[hasty flax]

Edited msg

[drowsy terrace]

sion type hero

[pulsar marlin]

I mean she’s already seeing use subbing out lan in skylan

[crystal yarrow]

Same as athoran then

[pulsar marlin]

Whoran is 403 e60

[crystal yarrow]

But my seal team is lowkey bad si

[drowsy terrace]

interesting, has the wr improved compared to its previous version?

[molten canopy]

I thought envy was the first awoken hero you're supposed to build

[pulsar marlin]

Not noticeably, but she’s so crucial for nc that just getting her a comp is good enough

[pulsar marlin]

Seal is fraudulent as fuck now without the goat wawkes

[crystal yarrow]

I have ashem envy estrilda and watha

[crystal yarrow]

Isnt thoran better than fawkes?

[hasty flax]

@solar fractal let’s test pippa in ts

[drowsy terrace]

andy?

[pulsar marlin]

Whoran is lowkey washed

[charred jetty]

yeah invest in NC more, cba TS for now

just let your region slowly die out a bit, and you build more wokes and stuff

[drowsy terrace]

yea im lowkey gonna drop him from the te guide

[pulsar marlin]

Pass ur nc clears

[drowsy terrace]

just tryna figure out who goes where he was

[molten canopy]

I'm sorry I meant envy but my name autocorrect keeps changing it to other stupid things

[crystal yarrow]

Whoran?

[hybrid breach]

too squishy

[drowsy terrace]

yes

[hybrid breach]

shit early on just dies

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah he doesn’t have a bis anymore

[crystal yarrow]

Should i remove from furn then?

[hasty flax]

No way pippa doesnt carry wucius

[pulsar marlin]

Wawkes just his job but better and wawkes functions as his own team even with panda early

[drowsy terrace]

probably

[molten canopy]

Doesn't that go for all awoken heroes

[drowsy terrace]

except ashem

[pulsar marlin]

No gavus?

[hybrid breach]

no ashem is quite good at living early

[crystal yarrow]

Should i put pippa orfawkes

[pulsar marlin]

And wawkes

[drowsy terrace]

put fawkes in for now

[hybrid breach]

and helps a team live, and at that stage can even still serve as a dps

[drowsy terrace]

im simply not convinced you need pippa that early on

[hybrid breach]

envy might be the best woke but he is not the best first woke

[crystal yarrow]

Dam after i get 3f on whoran 🙁

[crystal yarrow]

Should i show my box?

[pulsar marlin]

Best early is either ashem or wawkes

[drowsy terrace]

you'll likely end up building him later on

[crystal yarrow]

Ashem all day

[molten canopy]

Dude you might want to reword that

[hybrid breach]

you dont want to look at his box?

[crystal yarrow]

Should i show my big box?

[drowsy terrace]

no need, just be a bit patient while people convince me she should be in the te guide

[molten canopy]

Look up the definition of the word box in slang

[crystal yarrow]

Oh shi

[hasty flax]

Pippa replaces gavus (cope)

[hybrid breach]

so far she sounds quite strong the real debate would likely come to how much value she has early on/on her own without others

[pulsar marlin]

Ngl the woke prio needs to be redone, that’s genuinely hurting people now

[pulsar marlin]

Pippa replaces asaf that comp no?

[drowsy terrace]

trust me bud i know

[hasty flax]

No idea. I dont use asaf on wxuius

[drowsy terrace]

thats literally all im waiting on before i make any decision

[pulsar marlin]

How’s the woke prio looking rn

[drowsy terrace]

=te

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[drowsy terrace]

hella out of date

[molten canopy]

@crystal yarrow how many tickets do you have to pull for the hero you want to pull for

[crystal yarrow]

Right now im debating between whoran fawkes or pippa idk

[crystal yarrow]

320

[pulsar marlin]

Whoran and asaf should be dropped

[drowsy terrace]

im still gonna tell you to wait, but imo fawkes will never do you wrong

[pulsar marlin]

And zohra is deabatebly dropped ngl, she only has 1 ts comp

[crystal yarrow]

Is he used in nc or cr?

[drowsy terrace]

cr

[molten canopy]

I would probably say Fox then maybe Pippa

[pulsar marlin]

Nc as well

[hasty flax]

I dont even know who to swap anymore

[crystal yarrow]

What is fawkes build?

[pulsar marlin]

You can’t achieve envy kill there

[pulsar marlin]

309 e60, si 40 is a huge difference tho

[molten canopy]

Why do I want ABrutus

[drowsy terrace]

you dont

[pulsar marlin]

Tower

[crystal yarrow]

So 40960

[hasty flax]

Me when I lie

[molten canopy]

That wasn't a rhetorical question

It's just a statement

[drowsy terrace]

oh?

strange tastes i guess

[molten canopy]

@drowsy terrace he's the only reason why I actually want to do TR to get him out of the shop but I just found out I can't do TR

[drowsy terrace]

how come?

[hasty flax]

Wait should i si40 the dead guy

[pulsar marlin]

Ima be real with you, no one is using that envy comp r5 early, you can’t secure a reliable elth merc for r1, and it requires si40 belgris or you get ty checked to shit

[molten canopy]

I don't know the cops

[hasty flax]

@solar fractal si40 fawkes when?

[drowsy terrace]

big dmg boost so yes

[pulsar marlin]

I’m just waiting for saitama

[drowsy terrace]

well yea, even im getting ty checked and loosing

[molten canopy]

@drowsy terrace I guess I could start doing SZ if they ever bring it back and use the chest to build him

[pulsar marlin]

Wawkes comp is at least consistent 46 seconds for me

[crystal yarrow]

Im lowkey struggling on furnitures 😭😭

[pulsar marlin]

Like it fails 1/9 times

And my belgris is severely underbuilt

[molten canopy]

Even though I don't like SZ I have always been number one in it when I have done it

[drowsy terrace]

yea thats another reason i feel hesitant on putting pippa up there, cause you are forced to merc saitama, if youre big enough but that does kinda brick the rest of your rounds since you cant have it all

[crystal yarrow]

All rly high prio furn

[olive cape]

I only garrisoned him once

[molten canopy]

@drowsy terrace I just know he ain't worth using tickets on

[pulsar marlin]

You are forced to run that Randle comp with pippa, which means you can’t really use Randle r5, and knowing Lilith the next boss is another stat check

[molten canopy]

Then I would say finish (her) off before you start on another one

[drowsy terrace]

well yea, thats more flex building

[pulsar marlin]

I think we should remove nc as a focus entirely, new players just can’t catch up anymore

[hasty flax]

So expensive

[pulsar marlin]

How are you supposed to do nc missing saitama+cha+marci

[molten canopy]

@olive cape so if you have enough resources go on in Garrison Rem one more time and that way you can build up some more resources to garris and her two more times after 19 days

[drowsy terrace]

that is a valid point, but that could very well change how we decide what woke gets put where

[molten canopy]

Well there goes that idea I just looked at the chest he's not in there

[drowsy terrace]

yea he is in the red chest

which is rare to get

[molten canopy]

Yeah I've never got one of those

[drowsy terrace]

neither have i

[olive cape]

Soo should I re apply for rem then garrison her?

[molten canopy]

I think you should find somebody that has it on auto

[tribal citrus]

@drowsy terrace quick question when do i change my wishlist? i got 10 ivans, 8 miras, 8 randles, 8 lady bell and 8 bronns, do i switch evrrything now or wait till the unit i chnage is at a+1

[molten canopy]

I know you didn't ask me but you can take Ivan out and put somebody else on there since you have enough to one-star him but the rest of them still needs two copies

[brittle warren]

I’m using envy r5 Skylan and L elth r1

[drowsy terrace]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[pulsar marlin]

That’s going skylan first/second

[drowsy terrace]

you can slot in those heroes

[pulsar marlin]

I went lan and Levi like you are supposed to

[brittle warren]

I didn’t

[drowsy terrace]

well we used to have to do that

but tbh lan might not be as big a prio anymore

[olive cape]

What do you mean?

[pulsar marlin]

Ngl ye, lan is washed as hell

[drowsy terrace]

but i would still build her first

[oak stirrup]

By going Lan and Leviathan you're volunteering to drop you ranks for "greater good"

[drowsy terrace]

simply cause she is the cheapest hb to build

[pulsar marlin]

Bud yall tell me skylan washed as hell

[brittle warren]

Skylan ass but lowkey comes in clutch for me frequently

[oak stirrup]

Go with carries, squeeze into as high TS as you can, get easier time to build more dragons later and less stress

[oak stirrup]

I've always advocated Skylan high priority so I don't know what you're smoking

[crystal yarrow]

Rn my lan is 409 should i build lev next or skylan

[molten canopy]

I'm sorry I might have misunderstood your previous statement you said should you request for her again I took that as that you have to request for her mine is on auto if you ask for my dimensionals they automatically come to you

[oak stirrup]

Even though it doesn't really make sense seeing as I went top 10 before dragons were even a thing

[pulsar marlin]

All the purple names convinced me otherwise

[brittle warren]

Do u have saitama

[drowsy terrace]

i mean

[pulsar marlin]

Not yet, in 3 weeks

[drowsy terrace]

tbh he's just a nice to have dps, his comps dont have insane wr's

[molten canopy]

I don't think you're going to find many people that bought him out right

[olive cape]

What i meant is that should I get rem a 2nd time before going for shun

[molten canopy]

Yes

Rent her after this one four more times then she will be free to rent then work on another one

[pulsar marlin]

It’s a lot better then Alba sion

[olive cape]

Right now I do have 20 days left on rem tho

[crystal yarrow]

Anyone?

[molten canopy]

Yeah and going to get another 29

[drowsy terrace]

i mean true

[oak stirrup]

Sion is like the "When your too poor you don't even have the backup meta"

[olive cape]

Yeah but wasn't it recommended to get both?

[drowsy terrace]

how's your cr and do you have wuci built?

[drowsy terrace]

usually you can, but you really cant buy much from the different stores

[molten canopy]

I don't think it's a recommending to get both I think it's a recommending to get either or first

[oak stirrup]

I think Lucius is phasing out of CR, the round just then had new meta without him, taken over by Pippa

[drowsy terrace]

the fall off is wild

[pulsar marlin]

I can’t whel zohra for Lysander burst yet

[oak stirrup]

Lucius teams like Misty were 38-39 and then you see well built Pippa getting 41

[molten canopy]

@olive cape I don't even think you have enough resources to get another 100 dimensional stones in the first place

[oak stirrup]

Is that TS?

[pulsar marlin]

Yes, where else do you see alna sion

[oak stirrup]

Zohra groups with Maetria and Hildwin

[pulsar marlin]

She also fits in Lysander burst

[oak stirrup]

You want foresight to quickly jump ahead of other people in RGMs really

[pulsar marlin]

In 4/5t before becoming her own team

Cuz sem is fading out in Lysander burst

[oak stirrup]

I went for Maetria despite new awakened coming soon and then locked in top 20

[crystal yarrow]

Wuci as in woke lucius?

[pulsar marlin]

Imagine it was envy right after

I also do need to build kregor so envy isn’t stuck in envy dims

[oak stirrup]

She's like "no she shouldn't be built because hurr durr inefficient" but then back then there was a team where you can't build without her

[drowsy terrace]

yes

[oak stirrup]

I build Kregor before it was cool

[crystal yarrow]

Hell nah is he even in woke prio

[pulsar marlin]

Genuinely r54 and onwards just fried

[oak stirrup]

You're no in 54 though so just be happy

[pulsar marlin]

There’s a woke prio for when you start to put on rank plates in nc and cr

[oak stirrup]

54 runs different meta because missing dims and stuff

[drowsy terrace]

no, then you likely wanna go elth imo, i personally dont know about her wr's in ts but she is solid for nc last i checked, although her boss might have left

[molten canopy]

@drowsy terrace are they teaching people to Garrison two-dimensionals at one time instead of just one at one time

[crystal yarrow]

I have her at 1 copy

[crystal yarrow]

Isnt she used in seal?

[crystal yarrow]

I see i havnt even hit t100 in ts yet

=awk

[drowsy terrace]

ive always said to grab just one and make do, but people have done it before with no issue, so its not set in stone

[crystal yarrow]

=woke

[drowsy terrace]

like i said, idk about her comps

[drowsy terrace]

=te

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[crystal yarrow]

Why is fawkes not in prio

[pulsar marlin]

Elth boss is leaving

[molten canopy]

That's how I've always done it

[pulsar marlin]

It’s 1 year out of date

[crystal yarrow]

I build westrilda based on that prio

[pulsar marlin]

If anything you should have built wawkes when he came out

His early ts team is very very solid

Just needs panda 12 and 4 fodder gbs

[drowsy terrace]

cause i'm working on it

i do these updates in batches

[crystal yarrow]

I dont think r52 is early no more

[drowsy terrace]

way too much of a hassle to do it everytime a woke releases

[crystal yarrow]

U think fawkes is higher than westrilda?

[molten canopy]

Yes

From what I heard he is used everywhere

AEst is only used in a couple places now

[drowsy terrace]

yea

[crystal yarrow]

Alr then fawkes is gonna be my next woke prov thankgod i didnt build whoran only 3f in

[pulsar marlin]

Woke prio should be wawkes>envy>ashem>westie>wath>chicken/zohra/whoran

It does mean you should build alvida 40 tho

[drowsy terrace]

i just cant endorse wakes and envy before ashem

[brittle warren]

Asking bc he wanted my nc clear, I had to merc saitama @pulsar marlin

[pulsar marlin]

I will cuz wawkes just that goated

Did nem quit his job at testing wawkes early

[crystal yarrow]

Btw does fawkes work at legendary better than legendary thoran in seal?

[pulsar marlin]

In theory yes? But not rlly

[harsh acorn]

Nem has been busy I think. I haven’t seen the guy around for a bit

[pulsar marlin]

Icic

[crystal yarrow]

Tf does that mean

[pulsar marlin]

The issue is wawkes lowkey kinda sucks at stalling without panda

I feel like he’s way better in Lysander burst then seal

[crystal yarrow]

All people use him in seal so idk

[pulsar marlin]

That’s for really high end comps with wucuis Levi

Tell me do you have a functioning team 6 and 7

[hasty flax]

Afk j and arena aint even t50 anymore?

[molten canopy]

I know why you're asking but like I said I don't think anybody bought him out right

[pulsar marlin]

I can’t clear r5, belgris gets ty checked without wawkes

[molten canopy]

Isn't that a good thing look at who's number one that game is terrible

[crystal yarrow]

This guy is top 49 rn

[hasty flax]

Idk but looks like we’re on an upward trend

[molten canopy]

That is probably due to companions because it's so pay to win based

[hasty flax]

Possibru

[molten canopy]

Do they make one for telling you how easy it is to get the heroes compared to how much money you have to spend

@hasty flax GI & RSL are two of the biggest pay to win scam games I ever seen

[pulsar marlin]

No that’s not companions spike

Companions spike is the first one

[molten canopy]

I think they lump AFK arena and AFK companions together since they're basically on the same game

[dark musk]

Let’s go

Well now I have a decent carry to push through the towers

[hasty flax]

I dont play those shit luckily

[pulsar marlin]

4 more owls til 18 owl

[atomic lodge]

Hey ! What should I buy in the barracks please ?

[pulsar marlin]

Use them for garrison/dim stones

[atomic lodge]

Garrison and dim stones ?

[pulsar marlin]

Yes, don’t ever buy stuff here

Unless ur like endgame and need a lot of juice

[upper hinge]

is ashem still woke priority

ima finish her anyway js asking

[autumn gull]

multiple paths are possible, like envy or fawkes first, but she’s the safe and generally recommended option still

[atomic lodge]

Okay, I do not use those thend

[deep nova]

Fawkes really ?

[molten canopy]

First of all you want to save at least 80k hero coins for an exchange for the menstruals always after that I would suggest buying the orange juice and then purple shards

I just noticed that your barracks doesn't have orange juice in it

[pulsar marlin]

Bud wawkes is beyond goated

He’s a monster that easily can carry teams

[crystal yarrow]

Same can be said for ashem early on

[pulsar marlin]

Him+panda and 4 gb fodders deadass solos shit that shouldn’t be soloed

[olive jewel]

@oak stirrup First 10% in a month or two iirc

[pulsar marlin]

Are u usually top 10%?

[olive jewel]

No I fluctuate from 8-11 mostly

6.4 PB

[grave hollow]

I guess i can 1 digit % cr this cycle

[winter halo]

Skill issue

[olive jewel]

That's the joining FS server difference

[olive jewel]

yeah the issue is that I am better than most

@winter halo

[winter halo]

Most of the people in ch 3 maybe

And even that's an if

[olive jewel]

@winter halo

[winter halo]

[charred jetty]

@winter halo you need to rope arkinz back

that shall be your task this week

[winter halo]

With a lasso?

[charred jetty]

yes

[winter halo]

You do it

Be a competent mod

[charred jetty]

no I think it's more a CS thing

support your community you know

[winter halo]

But you are a contributor

So you need to contribute to the community

[charred jetty]

I do

I contribute by tasking CS with the task of bringing back arkinz

[winter halo]

In a positive manner

Which you don't

[grim hamlet]

or super endgame and you play purple stone lottery for celepogs

[pulsar marlin]

Damn there’s an endgame beyond juice?

[warm steppe]

The guide says to save 200 TE (20pulls) and get AShemira to Mythic. Since TE pulls are now discounted i should just do it when i can pull 20 times right?

[charred jetty]

you only get 6 cheap pulls, totalling 12 TEs saved

so you will need 188 TEs

plus remember how we said to save 200 TEs in case a better option comes out?

well we have reason to believe fawkes is a better option

[warm steppe]

oh the discount is limited? i didnt know that.

[hybrid breach]

well yeah you max all your branches eventually bud

[grim hamlet]

Yea I mean think about it. Eventually you get your branches to cap for your trunk. Once that happens juice value drops to basically 0 cause even if you build the new hero every 2 weeks the rewards from tr, cr and afk is enough to take it right back to cap within 2 weeks and then some

[hybrid breach]

most very late end game players have large stockpiles of extra juice

[grim hamlet]

Yea exCtly

If you're not done with 4fs then might get a few extra bumps that require catch-up. But unless you start whaling old celepogs you never need additional income of juice again at that point

[warm steppe]

alright so i will see if i can get to 188 till the discount ends. Then if fawkes turns out to be a better option, what are the steps then? keep ashemira at 1 copy and start pulling for afawkes even if envy was supposed to be after her?

[hybrid breach]

i mean when i quit i had like 3 or so 4fs that werent 5* yet? and all of them above 1* (except that new gb maybe?), theyre pretty easy to keep up with for the most part

[grave hollow]

[granite hawk]

Fawkes? 👀

[dark musk]

Is it just me or did a new event called “battle of blood”? It just seems like war of wixx from 2020

[shy crescent]

Is this the entire player pool?

[oak stirrup]

Battle of blood is a few years old reoccurring event

[oak stirrup]

Most people don't give a rats ass about rank and just hit enough for dailies then dip

[shy crescent]

I can tell. Only took like 20 minutes to basically hit t100

[oak stirrup]

U keep saving to 500+ so you can fully build a hero instead of going the Shemira route which at this point, may be phased out, because it doesn't make you stand out if you're trying to compete on R54

[warm steppe]

oh alright, thank you. so the way to go right now is to save 500 and figure out who is the best then. also do you know when Knox starts getting strong?

[oak stirrup]

Also, of course discount has a limit, why would they let you do forever? May as well just say it costs the discounted rate then

[oak stirrup]

Knox needs that SI40 to get going, and even then he might be strong for your campaign but you still lose out to people who have him built

[warm steppe]

i thought the discount was for the time being of APippa event until now

[oak stirrup]

This is the risk with following guides that many already follows - you all end up with same roster so imagine trying to compete without standing out

[oak stirrup]

If that was the case most people would try to 5*, of course it can't happen like that, it's too F2P friendly to allow unlimited over a duration

[warm steppe]

ye, i can see that

[oak stirrup]

You save 2TE per 10 pull, it adds up so much that building a hero inside and outside event costs different

They gotta be a bit more fair to newer players so, once your discount ends, it costs exactly the same as others who miss out

In fact you only save 12 in total from using it, which is good thing

[warm steppe]

ye thats mainly why i asked in the first place because it sounded really broken to save 2TE per pull (if it was unlimited)

[oak stirrup]

You can see on the screen that it's not the case

[dark musk]

Oh okay

[warm steppe]

ye i just kinda missed it

[oak stirrup]

Think of it as a cheaply implemented yugioh where you don't even get your own deck and only given some cards from random pull

[dark musk]

Yeah, honestly I’m not even doing well right now maybe it’s cause I have no experience and knowledge of this game

[oak stirrup]

@warm steppe Should you do it though? Only ever do discount pulls if you're going to be committed to build the said hero, which means if the next big meta comes along, you don't stop building and try to pivot, because then you lose two times - not having the current project done, and too poor to afford the newer, better project

Using discount pull is spending 60 to save 12

[warm steppe]

ye ye, now that i know that its only for 6 pulls it definetly is not worth it if i cant build a hero fully

@oak stirrup would you mind taking a look at my heroes? im trying to figure out a second team but i am struggling at this Tasi stage. I got there with the rented APippa but now that i dont have her i am not sure who to use. i know the guide says Rem/Shuuna but i only have rem and even she doesnt have cover +1

[outer oyster]

=terms

[gilded sapphire]

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[elfin gulch]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

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[elfin gulch]

should i lure here?

[timber cedar]

Yes bro

Wait show pets rq

Ur supposed to follow guide =beasts

[gilded sapphire]

Beasts

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[elfin gulch]

ion have anything else, only the default pet

[timber cedar]

Yes but what level matters. Also read u on tricking if u have reso 6 already

[shy crescent]

What tank coll could use a +1 lvl.?Trying to use totems

[timber cedar]

Ok then pull wl is fine, owl over talisman imo

[timber cedar]

Not sure. Maybe watch? From what I heard horn needs +2, and bondage isn't that good

[elfin gulch]

okay okay, thank uu vro

[timber cedar]

I use a +2 3hp watch but no horn so not sure how good it is

[timber cedar]

Ywyw gl to ur pulls

[shy crescent]

My only decent watch

[elfin gulch]

😳😳, should i try to pull for one more to get her L+ or save 200+ to get her to mythic

[timber cedar]

Oof. Yeah I think u need more hps for sure

[grim hamlet]

that is definitely a watch

[timber cedar]

Im trying to get is flight, but every time it just gives me atk

[timber cedar]

Uhh save? She isn't too much of a difference at l+

Not sure though. When I started i was pulling along the way cuz I didn't know guides existed

Really depends on if u wanna risk something being better

[elfin gulch]

hmm im thinking of making her L+ so that i can replace one of the fodders for leveling up

[timber cedar]

What? Wokes don't use fodder

[elfin gulch]

the 5 L+ fodders for before 160

so that i can increase my lvl cap

[timber cedar]

uhh i don't think you need to. check out codes btw, gives you a lot of free pulls

[elfin gulch]

really, okay okay ill check

[timber cedar]

so you won't need to use fodder. make sure you check all the websites, some of them don't have complete ones. also i gtg, ping a cs (community supporter) for help ig. or ask somebody else here

[grim hamlet]

@winter halo specifically is the best one to ping. with any and all questions that cross your mind, even if they aren't about the game

[torpid seal]

save l+ dont make a difference

[elfin gulch]

yah, thanks for the help

[shy crescent]

Shitty offensive abilities but better I suppose

[grim hamlet]

um what? did you just do one run and end up with 4m hp?

[shy crescent]

I used teo defense etches

Two*

[dark musk]

do I just save my time emblems and stargazer cards until like 200-300?

[queen edge]

any worth it e30?

[torpid seal]

sg cards u can use, te save

[olive jewel]

[pulsar marlin]

This is a good ass watch

[granite hawk]

I wanna get AShem to M rn but also wanna wait for new prio adjustment the wait is killing me lmao, I gotta afk fr

[shy crescent]

Rem prolly highest prio

[queen edge]

bet that works for me

[shy crescent]

Saitama is worth too. At least imo. But might want to save for Knox/ashem

[queen edge]

got like 10k rn so i’ll probably just do rem and wait for knox and ashem

[shy crescent]

Sounds good

Dims tend to be pretty good/worth investing

[timber cedar]

👍 🔥

Anyways i pray for some luck on gg. 3 rare per week and I haven't seen a single flight over 1m

Lol I want at least 3m

[wide elk]

guys when to start buidling dragon unit, is it after building those hypogen from the guide ?

[olive jewel]

you should start kind of early

you need to do as much dragonforge trial as you can

[shy crescent]

Next time there is an event and they have the free copies/rewards for summons I would try to max those out

[grim hamlet]

Ah. Perk. Makes more sense then

[olive jewel]

Fawkes have good dupes?

[pulsar marlin]

They are ok

Gives mp cda crit

Nvm I’m tripping

It’s normal

[dark musk]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

Stargazing Priorities:

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[olive jewel]

any super knowledgable people here?

[shy crescent]

Serenmira or Selene better?

[olive jewel]

pretty close

really more about game mode

[shy crescent]

All three tbh. But my prio is nc, cr, TS

[olive jewel]

Serenmira has the advantage in NC, Selene has the advantage in the other two

[shy crescent]

Ty ty

[olive jewel]

Selene is a lot better in pvp also imo

[dark musk]

My first SI30 ever, I’m making progress 🥹 what do I do now?

[olive jewel]

just keep on target. Same as always

guide and to do list

[charred jetty]

building seren over selene is trolling now imo

[charred jetty]

=guide

[pulsar marlin]

Damn what nc rank r u

[gilded sapphire]

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[charred jetty]

wait you are ch33 though...

don't people usually get ivan before ch31

[olive jewel]

Yeah I guess I should say my actual opinion

[charred jetty]

oh wait it only takes like 2 days now, maybe not

[olive jewel]

which is to agree with this

Seren is still kind of annoying to sub though sometimes

@shy crescent

[shy crescent]

Not good. I was 40% last rotation

[dark musk]

yeah it didn’t take that long

[olive jewel]

How knowledgable about collections meta would you say you are?

[granite hawk]

how to get to 31 in 2 days 😭

[shy crescent]

ty ty

[granite hawk]

Elthara diff? 😔

[dark musk]

Yeah I made the mistake of almost
Making Randle my first SI30 but thanks fully someone told me before I did it

[charred jetty]

for campaign? fairly

for everything else? not

well I have the nihi list, but I don't think I can share that

[olive jewel]

k. I meant for everything else

[olive jewel]

Its more about what I can get away with

on an MP flight

[charred jetty]

oh

[olive jewel]

I know I need a better one

[charred jetty]

5M is enough

don't need all M+

[olive jewel]

[charred jetty]

I had a 3.3M, but myu built a 5M one

just for reference

[olive jewel]

yeah I wanted to know what I can pass by with as a min

[charred jetty]

I think it depends on the size of your velu

[olive jewel]

velu randomly sucks in some places for me because of this

[charred jetty]

but the goal is just you want to be able to negate all magic damage of 309e80 heroes

[olive jewel]

I know you could do like 4112e61 or something

[charred jetty]

ye

[olive jewel]

and that was worth an M MP I think

[granite hawk]

@charred jetty Should I get AShem to M or pull Pippa/Fawkes or is discussion still ongoing for that.

[shy crescent]

i hope pippa isnt so good it somehow displaces ashem

[olive jewel]

its already clear she wont

[dark musk]

so according to this guide, after getting si30 for Ivan I should then build liberta? fyi I only have one copy of liberta so this doesn’t make sense to me

[olive jewel]

Her worst mode is PvP. That is enough to instantly kill anyone's chances as first woke

[shy crescent]

you have knox?

[dark musk]

Yeah but knox is only legendary+

[olive jewel]

they mean SI

you dont want si30 on Knox

[shy crescent]

Knox is just si20? till when?

[olive jewel]

si40

[shy crescent]

yeah, he was my first si40

[charred jetty]

still ongoing

[olive jewel]

30 is just a stepping stone to 40

[charred jetty]

though it's probab;y fawkes first now

[olive jewel]

no need to stop there

[shy crescent]

fawkes over ashem? wow

[charred jetty]

fawkes basically does ashem + carry's jobs as a single hero

[pulsar marlin]

Ye with her fading out of lys burst as well

[olive jewel]

does he see use in late game camp?

[pulsar marlin]

He’s absurdly good

[charred jetty]

yep one of my endgame comps

[granite hawk]

ok tysm, I'll wait a bit more but noted on the Fawkes moving up 👀

[charred jetty]

this was testing pippaw uninvested, but you get the point

I usually run panda 18 too, which frees up IC for freeze comp or selene cycle

[olive jewel]

I need GB tower to open so I can go crazy on it with my 4 wokes

[pulsar marlin]

He’s pretty good budget as well

[olive jewel]

are you just saying "panda 18"? There is no way your panda is only 18 right?

[charred jetty]

409e60 budget

not very budget to me bud

[dark musk]

should I try to get Ashemira to legendary+ or try to get awakened fawkes/piper?

[charred jetty]

nah my panda is 27, but for the panda 18 effect

[olive jewel]

yeah thats what I figured

[charred jetty]

fawkes + panda is an uncanny combo

[granite hawk]

I'm gonna take a leap of faith and prio Fawkes first

[charred jetty]

even in TS

randomly bursts down stacked woke/HB comps

[olive jewel]

Not much good it will do for my pcapped ass though

[pulsar marlin]

Yeah I noticed it when he randomly soloed ashem comps

[granite hawk]

So is it like Fawkes > Envy > AShem tentatively or AShem gets pushed way later now 👀

[pulsar marlin]

IMO ashem>westie>wath for now

[charred jetty]

something like that yeah...

maybe westy

[granite hawk]

icic

[shy crescent]

Is this buffer worth recasting to m def?

Why is it a spoiler

[pulsar marlin]

wtf ur Misha eating good

[charred jetty]

what the kraken

make it a spoiler

[granite hawk]

oooh i gotta look into Westy

[charred jetty]

uh depends on the rest of your collections

4.3M is honestly enough as is, I'd save the recast juice for something else

[shy crescent]

Sounds good. Ty

[olive jewel]

WEst is actually nutty

[pulsar marlin]

Ima be so fr

[dark musk]

Do I keep prioing Ashemira or someone else?

[pulsar marlin]

Ashem doesn’t even carry comps as hard as westie anymore for me

[olive jewel]

I won't describe her in the way that got me automodded before though

[pulsar marlin]

You alr bit the apple gotta commit

[charred jetty]

please tell me those were random oulls

[shy crescent]

if you already have 3 i prolly would just use her. she is still great

[granite hawk]

Thankfully I'm just one copy in with AShem rn

[oak stirrup]

Did you 10%

[olive jewel]

me?

[oak stirrup]

Ya your fancy 224b that it took me half an hour of tweaking comp to beat

[dark musk]

mhm

[dark musk]

luckies 10x pulls of my life but yeah I will

[charred jetty]

that's hard... save until like 360 then decide

[shy crescent]

JD knows more than me

[dark musk]

idk why I just get tempted to use time emblems and stargazer cards

[charred jetty]

ashem isn't a big boost until A 9f anyways

[shy crescent]

Yeah, they still bite you in the ass when you save them to the "correct" amount

[pulsar marlin]

Save, unless you commit

[charred jetty]

like she helps ,but not so much that it's worth

[pulsar marlin]

Wawkes starts carrying from m30

[granite hawk]

huge

[pulsar marlin]

Every little invest you put into him he returns something

[shy crescent]

Are there any wokes that have any usage at just 1 copy?

[dark musk]

true

[dark musk]

Welp ggs guys

[pulsar marlin]

In old nc whalene and asolise are used at 1, not anymore

Cuz they buffed the shit out of light matyr

[oak stirrup]

5% next

[shy crescent]

it would be kind of cool if there were more wokes that had fringe uses at 1 copy. But maybe not, just more dumb shit to invest in

[olive jewel]

good MP flight next

[oak stirrup]

It would be better if they revise all awakened so they useless at 1 copy

Also dragons because it will be funny

[shy crescent]

help out the newbies. encourage more people to play and keep the player base somewhat alive

[pulsar marlin]

Ngl woke prio been stale since ashem, finally time for her to be dethroned

[shy crescent]

when was ashem?

[olive jewel]

the top spot yeah

been a ton of movement in the other spots

[tropic light]

What should be my first hero I select here

[charred jetty]

october 2023

[olive jewel]

envy and west both gen 4

[charred jetty]

she's 3 years old

[shy crescent]

wow thats impressive af

[tropic light]

Just hit chapter 17

[pulsar marlin]

She’s finally dethroned after 2.5 years

[olive jewel]

its hard to describe how broken gen 2 wokes were

[shy crescent]

apparently fawkes. wait longer though. you have 7 days left. a new guide might come out

[olive jewel]

it was nuts

[shy crescent]

envy, ashem and who else?

[charred jetty]

envy is gen 4

[olive jewel]

envy is gen 4

[queen edge]

how’s pippa looking in TS for yall

[shy crescent]

oh I didn't realize Envy was that new

[charred jetty]

gen 2 is awthalia mae belinda saf lyca ashem

[olive jewel]

Athalia, Maetria, Belinda, Safiya, Lyca, Shemira

[shy crescent]

Gen2 mean year 2 of wokes?

[tropic light]

So wait until the last day? If a new guide hasn’t come out then go for fawkes?

[pulsar marlin]

Holy shit that’s stacked

[charred jetty]

like all of those heroes are still meta now

can you imagine back then

[shy crescent]

Yeah, just use your 6 discount roles

[charred jetty]

no dragon, no HB, no broken celepo

[olive jewel]

basically yeah. they release 1 woke of each faction and those are considered each gen

[queen edge]

so it seems everyone’s pretty sure fawkes > pippa

[tropic light]

Bet thanks

[charred jetty]

it's more nuanced than that, but for new players ye

[olive jewel]

gen 4 just wrapped up

[shy crescent]

with pippa?

[charred jetty]

ye

[queen edge]

what about for 4th woke after west

[charred jetty]

do NC wokes

[olive jewel]

Zohra Envydiel Estrilda Skriath Fawkes Pippa

[charred jetty]

gen 4 is also hella stacked

[shy crescent]

skriath is the worst. those are all amazing too

[charred jetty]

skri is decent in TS, BiS in CR, BiS in campaign

[olive jewel]

gen 1 was Talene Ezizh Thane Brutus Solise Baden

[shy crescent]

Yeah, and he is the worst probably

[charred jetty]

not that campaign really matters after ch46, but just putting it out there

[charred jetty]

ye true

[olive jewel]

gen 3 was Gavus Eugene Lucius Antandra Eironn Thoran

[shy crescent]

Gen 4 is the new gen 2

[charred jetty]

gen 3 sucked

[olive jewel]

ye

[pulsar marlin]

Isn’t there still cele hypo

Oh wait it was envy and ?????

[olive jewel]

zohra

[charred jetty]

I think relative to their time, Gen 2 > Gen 4 > Gen 1 >>>> Gen 3

[pulsar marlin]

There’s not a single bad gen 4 woke

[olive jewel]

gen 1 was super inconsistent

[wide elk]

=furn

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911949525614644

[olive jewel]

Solise and Brutus were amazing

[charred jetty]

athane was pretty OP back then though

[pulsar marlin]

The worst one was prob chicken

[olive jewel]

Baden was also irreplacable CR king

[pulsar marlin]

Then you have azizh and whalene

[charred jetty]

talene was actually fine on release

very very similar to dgwyn

which is why I knew to avoid getting dgwyn

[pulsar marlin]

Hilbilly has more relevance then dgwyn now

[olive jewel]

He always did

[shy crescent]

what is hilbilly and dgwyn?

[olive jewel]

Hildwin was really really good on release

[olive jewel]

First two HB. Dragon Gwyn and Hildwin

[shy crescent]

ty

[tropic halo]

For Kregor in TS, is 20960 good enough? Can do without si30 or si40?

[pulsar marlin]

Holy fraud

[pulsar marlin]

209 e60 is min, ideally you want 409 e60

[tropic halo]

Oof si40 is a steep hill. Is 30 useful at all or not?

[pulsar marlin]

Not really, not too big of a difference

[heady vapor]

i have 800+ TE, is it worth summoning for any woke, i already have shemira, envy, estrilda, thoran, athalia, lyca, eugene

[olive jewel]

Fawkes probably

[pulsar marlin]

Wawkes 100%

[heady vapor]

whats his build?

[pulsar marlin]

Or you can swap for wawkes and build zohra

[pulsar marlin]

309 e60, really wants 409 e60 tho

[olive jewel]

I miss when wokes used to come out with a thematically relevant and synergystic 4f near release

[heady vapor]

wdym swap, there’s a swap?

[pulsar marlin]

Usually anniversary there’s a woke swap

[tropic halo]

Thanks

[heady vapor]

why not build fawkes and swap for zohra, just in case pippa turns out good?

[wide elk]

=siprio

[gilded sapphire]

Signature Item Prio Guide:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1008942630199107654

[wide elk]

=garrison

[gilded sapphire]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[wide elk]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

Stargazing Priorities:

#994913771598389318 message

[wide elk]

=te

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[pulsar marlin]

That works as well

[pulsar marlin]

Do note this is severely outdated

[polar bluff]

Imagine getting scammed

[calm oak]

what to do

[pulsar marlin]

Ashem is deadass on fraud watch

[pulsar marlin]

How many te

[calm oak]

270

i have 2 envys

[pulsar marlin]

Hmmm I’ll still wait

Or you can send envy and get him to 303 e60

[steep stream]

is saitama si30 or shuna si30 more important now

[solar fractal]

Shuna

[steep stream]

will 20030 saitama work well enough for nc?

[solar fractal]

Yes

[steep stream]

ok bet

[solar fractal]

He works at 00000 xD

[steep stream]

what really, damn

W saitama

[queen edge]

why is his in game animation better then opm season 3

[pastel niche]

What are the first furniture wishlist priority

[queen edge]

check faq

[pastel niche]

What’s that

[queen edge]

faq section on this server has furniture prio

[granite hawk]

ok dam after getting Fawkes and dropping AShem i'm finally able to clear stuff again in campaign

[queen edge]

damn everyone loves afawkes

[oak stirrup]

As a fellow casual it doesn't matter, noncompetitive mindset btw

[shy crescent]

When you finish the dims at the bottom what happens? Do they get replaced or just gray out?

[oak stirrup]

If you did buy Saitama and want the advantage then go for every offensive team buff

[buoyant fern]

Hope this answers ur question

[queen edge]

holy diamonds

[buoyant fern]

Not even enough to finish one dragonlite to A1 lol

[queen edge]

no way

[pulsar marlin]

He’s the GOAT

[buoyant fern]

Ya lol. I had 500k+ before. Wasnt able to finish melion etc
Not the mention each release bite my dias more haha

[queen edge]

no umbriel is the goat

[queen edge]

disgusting

[queen edge]

should i just say fuck pippa and pull for afawkes rn

[shy crescent]

thx!

[buoyant fern]

[pulsar marlin]

How r u doing in ts and nc

[queen edge]

top 1% i don’t even wanna talk about nc

[wintry olive]

just made a fresh account what team should i run

[minor musk]

a wild noob has appeared!!!!!!!!!

[shy crescent]

use wu kong until like lvl 100, he drops off hard, also use mira. Hopefully get a ivan/randle/aehtus/gorren soon

[wintry olive]

alr bet

[buoyant fern]

[tepid raft]

Hi peeps

[minor musk]

o/

[pulsar marlin]

Ye go Fawkes

[queen edge]

lovely

[queen edge]

what’s his invest

[shy crescent]

Does it make sense to sg 6x copies of orthos to finish him? I almost want to just give it time and get them through challenger store and start saving towards Selene instead

[queen edge]

should i si40

[solar fractal]

No

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1104534573313962175.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=explod

[queen edge]

okay thought it was recommended but all good then

[olive jewel]

[shy crescent]

Sounds good. Thx

[grim hamlet]

does he really? I know his main job is punching summons but the si30 is a teamwide buff, figured that helped somewhat

[grim hamlet]

what is that coll

[solar fractal]

8hrs till nc opens

[queen edge]

random for now that was my next question, what totems do i run and what kind of coll does he need

[solar fractal]

Mp storm but atk storm is just fine and since your new making mp isn’t that worth

[grim hamlet]

MP storm nearly always. But only after 9f

[solar fractal]

Use the atk one you have and if you don’t have one make one

It’s gonna be used for most mages you build

[queen edge]

so what totems?

[solar fractal]

Mw lvl mage

[grim hamlet]

[queen edge]

should i go for two levels as well?

[grim hamlet]

why would you run mage for attack storm?

[solar fractal]

Idk it’s the one I use

10% chance to get extra stats

[grim hamlet]

eh. +1 is fine. +1 4m stat generally better then +2 anyway

[shy crescent]

Like this but better

that no mw

[queen edge]

is this worth using custom attack card

[oak stirrup]

Are you desperate enough to use card and then recast

[grim hamlet]

I mean sort of. Only if an M or L stat drops from a battle, not made via promotion or w/e. And no increased chance of the stat you want. I'd definitely prefer 33% increased chance of attack specifically dropping and a 3.3% chance of M+ attack

[shy crescent]

yeah, kind of need to, dont think the atk card is worth it unless you also recast it for 3 m atk

[grim hamlet]

Those class specific ones always kind of feel like garbage to me. Even for like IS runs I tend to prefer like even though it costs me a pity drop

[solar fractal]

But also higher chances of getting hp and def can make you lose fot example cda or even lvl so technically it can grief

[shy crescent]

i like the class specific ones when i am not running + lvl

[grim hamlet]

yea true. I always use them for pure stat colls

[grim hamlet]

I mean what are you running for lol. crit/cda or attack

[solar fractal]

Both

[grim hamlet]

can't win everything. gotta pick what youre running for. if there's a totem that incerases the chances of it dropping that's definitely preferred

[solar fractal]

I swear I remember you were saying that cda/atk storm can be better than atk one xD

[grim hamlet]

well there's like a crit/cda storm coll target

marcis coll of choice

and sometimes like zohras in cr

the perfect version of that doesn't have any attack though. Attack is a substitution option

[solar fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1011676021038268526.webp?size=96&animated=true

[grim hamlet]

Didn't I just say the same thing again? lol

[minor musk]

i think im throwing :c

[charred jetty]

[grim hamlet]

+1 crit/cda or +1 attack. those are the general sorc dps colls

I'm sure a mixture works fine but the bis version of each doesn't have the other stat

[solar fractal]

And bis blade has 3m TY

Doesn’t mean it’s not good if it doesn’t have

+1 atk/cda is good

By getting hp over cda you’ll have to card/recast one more atk which would be a waste if you use final decent

It’s a very low chance but it could happen

[grim hamlet]

lol ok bud

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100

[grim hamlet]

the entire mage totem has a miniscule chance of doing anything at all lol

1. An L/M has to drop from a battle
2. It has to be one of the two stats you care about (Atk or CDA)
3. You have to hit the 10% chance of duplication as well

[solar fractal]

Uhh

[grim hamlet]

That totem is basically just filling out the run with 3 oranges for a pity drop

[solar fractal]

Can you just let me have this

[grim hamlet]

I mean I wouldn't care normally but if you're gonna tell other people to use that over final descent then idk about that lol

if you truly hate the chance of being screwed over though

then the run for you is this

because the last is 100% increased chance of crit specifically and it adds it into the normal drop pool and a small chance of M+ crit

so anytime that does something its all good

except on like blade runs cause crit sucks there lol

[solar fractal]

Pretty sure crit sucks I was mainly talking about cda which that totem doesn’t give but anyways it’s not that big of deal both totems would be great lol

[grim hamlet]

why would crit suck? literally the bis marci coll is 2x crit 2x cda +1

[minor musk]

[grim hamlet]

which is also what basically all the mages want when they want cda

remember panda lets you break crit cap

[wintry olive]

fresh account, wondering who i should replace on my team if any

just got gorren wanna see if hes applicable to my comp

[grim hamlet]

it used to be bad in warrior cause aath doesn't care but now cha does so its good there again

mages definitely like it cause they often get used with panda

[shy crescent]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[solar fractal]

Atk cda can also be good for fawk and zohra not only Marci and idk if they want crit other for zohra in cr

Cuz for dancer and blade it’s always cda atk> crit i would assume its the same for storm

[grim hamlet]

dancer - no. aath's dancer doesn't want crit. Cha's dancer definitely wants crit

blade - yea you're right. Celes don't want it. Hilarious because when blade came out everyone wash pushing the crit focused blade. And then so many ended up recasting that crit to cda

but mages are different because panda exists

and they are usually stationary so you can keep them in the cover

[solar fractal]

I guess but in the end both totems are good

[grim hamlet]

palmer also lets people exceed crit cap. He can kind of work for anyone cause he doesn't have the stationary requirement but usually ends up with mages too

[winter halo]

Dura's Blade?

[grim hamlet]

btw you don't put those class totems in your wishlist right?

[grim hamlet]

nailed it

[solar fractal]

Ye

[grim hamlet]

you shouldn't lol. literally lowers your chances of getting MWs. https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1bgvkh5/ghoulish_gallery_wishlist_is_not_25_to_get/

[solar fractal]

Huh I said yes as in no I don’t put them in

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/767635405889077259.gif?size=48

[grim hamlet]

ah ok

yea the odds things is really messed up

miracle worker in general is really messed up

[solar fractal]

Wait what

[grim hamlet]

like "hey you get 7-10 runs per week! but also there's a single totem thats required to make those runs meaningful. And it has the lowest odds of all them to drop by far"

[solar fractal]

So what’s the best totems to put

[grim hamlet]

Always MW and FG and then 2 of these:
602 Final Descent 18 13 3.21% 3.23%
603 Mass Crowning 18 13 3.21% 3.23%
604 Lament of Life 18 13 3.21% 3.23%
605 Sword of Shards 18 13 3.21% 3.23%
606 Dark Rage 18 13 3.21% 3.23%

since they have the lowest odds after MW and therefore skew the odds of MW the least

the class totems have higher odds and change the rates

[solar fractal]

I have mw fg mass crowning and piercing blade

[grim hamlet]

Highest might be 3 of the ones I listed next to MW ig

[minor musk]

friggin nerds!

[grim hamlet]

farewell gift is actually one of the least rare

so I imagine it skews it away

yea crowning and final descent is the recommended pairing by the guide here

I asked about it once and was told 2 reasons:

1. They're generally the most useful for new players
2. Read the link I just shared

[solar fractal]

Damn I’ve had piercing blade since like I started playing

[tepid totem]

ooo

[solar fractal]

Now that I read no idea why I had it lol it’s very bad

[grim hamlet]

yea that's kind of an odd one to have in there lol

Its basically just a lys and sometimes sky coll and that's it

there's a bunch of desired attack colls:

• attack storm (5m and +1/+2 both have separate uses, 5m pretty niche though)
• attack flight
• attack bounty
• attack vault
• attack blade
• attack/cda dancer
• attack/cda cover though pretty niche now that aath kinda dead in pvp

[solar fractal]

Trish

[grim hamlet]

seren too

trish pretty dead lol

final descent also isn't just the attack totem

it does def and hp too

so there's actually a ton of use cases lol

which to casuals point can be super annoying at times. but yea you'd also use it for misha coll, wuci coll, basically any tank coll

[oak stirrup]

There is a niche for 4attack+1LvUp but like, you have to card and double recast so

[oak stirrup]

Pray to anyone that's not @drifting hemlock to get your 5MP quick

[olive jewel]

[grave hollow]

wut

[oak stirrup]

Are people desperate for miracle now

Just embrace the L I mean it's not like you're trying to compete for top 10

[grim hamlet]

This explains why: https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1bgvkh5/ghoulish_gallery_wishlist_is_not_25_to_get/

[oak stirrup]

Of course not, that'd be too fair wouldn't it?

It explains why your rando totem comes up with the class ones most of the time and not attack/ero

But then there's always the breed that gets miracle lvup and shiz from them regardless

Their intention for you to get miracle is literally from choice picks

Which involves sales

[steep stream]

does elthara work with aure's 5m ero coll or does she want something more specific?

[queen edge]

any worth it si30 or 40s?

also ignore how behind i am on furniture

[oak stirrup]

She works fine with erosion collection for most people, you're nowhere near the point to think about another one

[steep stream]

ok thank goodness

[oak stirrup]

There is a CR niche of using 2 erosion 2 MP + LvUp but yeah it's specific use case

Without erosion attack is still fine I mean, she damage dealer, attack is friendly to everyone who is damage dealer

[steep stream]

2 ero 2 mp and a lvl maybe in 1 1/2 years

[oak stirrup]

Like I said, you're probably never going to compete at that level

[pulsar marlin]

I see velu and wawkes

[oak stirrup]

You're talking about top 50 CR territory

And even then people can cut into top 50 just fine with 5ero

[queen edge]

not enough draconic emblems to si30 and someone earlier said afawkes si40 wasn’t worth it

[oak stirrup]

Who is that person, is he/she in this discord? Account info? Rank plates?

[queen edge]

i don’t remember it was earlier in this chat. so i assume ur saying it is worth it

[oak stirrup]

If you want to know if something is worth it you read up its description and look at usage

Also it's easy to tell when someone argues for not SI40, and then you look at his/her profile and it's probably, shit

[queen edge]

it’s a questions chat so i assumed a question was acceptable, my fault 😭

[oak stirrup]

Like it might work for them but, they might have lower standard in competition

No that's the answer to your response, you look at it and then TL;DR just take everything that adds offense, offense is king

[queen edge]

ahhh i see makes sense, would u say wawkes > envy for 40?

[oak stirrup]

Defense is for the big group of people who follow the exact same guide, so their TS and stuff end up facing each other that are running the exact same things, making it difficult to climb

[oak stirrup]

Do both

Because once you do SI40 it means you pretty much always win over SI30 enjoyers, isn't that exciting?

[queen edge]

definitely can’t afford that currently

[oak stirrup]

It's just reds, what can be so difficult

[pulsar marlin]

Fawkes 40 is genuinely such a big difference

[oak stirrup]

This dude above, is top 50 TS, trust him

[steep stream]

yeah im lining up fawkes as my next 40 after lava 30

[tepid totem]

is he higher than pippa

[pulsar marlin]

Idk most likely, pippa works at 309 e60

9f seems to be pippa important breakpoint

[oak stirrup]

Protip: Whether you need SI40 or not, look at region and how you perform in the region, if you're satisfied with your rank with no drops at all, you can get away with saving the reds for 'better meta'

[tepid totem]

in prio