classic-questions

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[river shuttle]

You read guide on how to not brick your account before you worry about a team pls

[pure obsidian]

is there any new collection guide? for like strom coll etc?

[river shuttle]

Do you have good randle/ivan and rem coll?

[gray grove]

I thought M was fine i have the copies in just waiting for fodder

[river shuttle]

Yeah you wasted your fodder on simona buddy

Couldve had a randle instead

[gray grove]

Oh youre right

i was desperate to have someone carry before mb

[pure obsidian]

yea, i have 3fatt 3 vault, pretty goodflight 7m with mp, and another with att, shadowflow blade with 3 pp 7 m, my storm is mid, and im looking now for mercille/aurelia/daemiacoll, i know aurelia needs erossion, but i want a guide with new colls included to knwo what ai can build now cuz that in collection guide in the faq doesnt inlude them and i saw taht these new collections are used a lot

[gray grove]

so simona i jusg let her sit there right

[pure obsidian]

discord formated text when i used * to show stars

[river shuttle]

You have no choice if you dont want to start over

[river shuttle]

That id the discord format ye haha

[river shuttle]

Well you need 5ero for aurelia, marci need +2 atk, and dae uses multiple colls belongs to the mode

Someome else has my kfc rn i think

[pure obsidian]

does mercille use storm or which one, and does she need 3 * on it? 2 lvl slots i mean

[river shuttle]

This is what im using for her, +1 not 2 ig

[pure obsidian]

okay, thanks

[nocturne oak]

that was last week when u borrowed
Did a snap happena nd u forgor about poor ol kami :(?

[river shuttle]

Bro i delete ppl from my fl when i need spots to get mercs

[nocturne oak]

yes but the fact u forgot me hurt :('

[river shuttle]

There like 20 people a day here asking for help bud its nothing personal

[nocturne oak]

it was to me
thought u would remember me like how i remember your SI journey and how it was in your nick 💔

[jaunty plume]

my bad

[hexed mulch]

guys is opm event over?

[jaunty plume]

applied bud

[hasty flax]

Can I have all your best mercs every week reserved? Forever

[hexed mulch]

=garrison

[gilded sapphire]

What is Garrison?

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994912202375049256

[steep stream]

[river shuttle]

Its gone aswell

[nocturne oak]

:c and i thought that was a step towards us being friends

[river shuttle]

Idk, i dont wanna be subaru

[river shuttle]

[olive jewel]

what are Saitama SI breakpoints?

[nocturne oak]

so pain

[umbral path]

Guys misha or gorok??

[nocturne oak]

0, 10, 30

[olive jewel]

not 40

[olive jewel]

for what

[nocturne oak]

i dont know anything above 30 and i do nto ask that either because its not feasible for me

[umbral path]

Ascend first

[nocturne oak]

is there an anti charm unit 😭
idk why this leg stage is so hard

[olive jewel]

Mihsa is the better overall hero but Gorok is better at lower invests

[olive jewel]

trying to assassinate Mehira is an option

[nocturne oak]

i dont have athalia to make sure her cloens dont spawn

[umbral path]

Okayy thanks

[nocturne oak]

her lil mininon nhenceman always spawn ⛽
maybe ic an use knox at L

[hexed mulch]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[olive jewel]

do you have a silvina?

[hexed mulch]

=beasts

[gilded sapphire]

Beasts

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[olive jewel]

idk if she'd be good enough there but might be worth a shot

[nocturne oak]

nuh cuh

[river shuttle]

[olive jewel]

[nocturne oak]

let me try saitama atheus combo i guess

[river shuttle]

I cleared that few days ago but i dont remember

[grim hamlet]

you don't have a silvina at all? she's rare lol

[river shuttle]

[grim hamlet]

(i have no idea why she'd be useful but that's a separate issue)

[olive jewel]

assassinating mehira

just an idea

[nocturne oak]

no

she has been sacc'ed

[olive jewel]

she starts the battle by jumping, hitting for 200% and stunning an enemy mage

[grim hamlet]

just do some friendship single summons then or something lol

decent chance you get one

might even be in barracks shop lol

[olive jewel]

mehira is only mage on enemy team

[nocturne oak]

so what if i said i alr summoned today and im all out

[olive jewel]

and she is L

[pale barn]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

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[nocturne oak]

ty jacko

[umbral path]

What is the most worthwhile thing here, i need fodders

[olive jewel]

silvina is a classic early camp problem solver, just not sure if Kami is still early enough

[woeful wave]

Red cores

[grim hamlet]

well ig you can buy 1 copy of silvina for 4800 lab coins lol

or do some candy crush or something lol

[olive jewel]

if you are asking, probably cores

[umbral path]

Thankss both

[pale barn]

The early guide shown above says to get Elthara right away when you unlock the highborn area. So just use those summon scrolls until you get one copy and then save all others correct?

[olive jewel]

yes

but its dragon insignias not scrolls

[pale barn]

What role or area does she serve mostly? Is there a scenario where she wouldn’t be much help?

[grim hamlet]

tbh I feel like the answer is probably if you're asking poe

[pale barn]

Ah ty for correction

[olive jewel]

she is very good at stalling early game

[grim hamlet]

I feel like the progression is poe -> cores -> juice -> (whichever of those three you feel you need most at the moment)

we can all agree its never fodder though

[olive jewel]

poes are lame though

so that's a consideration

[grim hamlet]

yea but you need so much furn lol

like when your wishlist is filled with 10 people who realy need 9f and you have a backlog o people to get on there for that

you really need poe

[olive jewel]

idk I'm still enough of an old that I come from the days where engraving was the crazy expensive powercreep everyone hated and so everyone always told you to get cores early

maybe I am too unc for this

[nocturne oak]

I chose the alternate option called perserverance
Ive been stuck for 3 days and i didnt change nothing but unit placements/units :D'
@olive jewel
are yall proud

[olive jewel]

[nocturne oak]

huh onyl some stages are two teams?

[grim hamlet]

yea every 4 is a multi-team fight from here on out

31-32 is 2t, 33-34 is 3t, 34 is 4t and 35+ is 5t

[nocturne oak]

ah.

[olive jewel]

multi team will be the hard part for a while then single will become the hard thing again

[grim hamlet]

lol yep

only times I've ever merced in camp for like the past year has been for single team fights lol

[nocturne oak]

im not ready for 3 teams at all
i can barely do two teams

:c my t4 :('

[grim hamlet]

you're like in 1.5t too lol

[nocturne oak]

meaning?

[grim hamlet]

notice how the second team is a lot weaker then the first team

[nocturne oak]

so there will be real 2t in the future where both side asecnded?

[grim hamlet]

yea

[woeful wave]

Ye

[grim hamlet]

about halfway through the period for that number of teams the last team gets upgraded

[nocturne oak]

:whenlifegetsatyou:

[quartz yoke]

Is it worth pulling Apippa?

[grim hamlet]

so its like 31 1.5t, 32 2t, 33 2.5t, 34 3t, 35 3.5 -> 4t, 35+ 5t

[olive jewel]

soon enough it's 5 full power teams 600 levels higher than you

[olive jewel]

=newhero

[gilded sapphire]

Because we're going to get this question a lot;
We require multiple weeks of testing before confidently placing a hero or pet in the priority guides. All information you hear about the hero or pet is speculation. Nothing is confirmed or set in stone. We recommend you to save your pulls if you haven't already started summoning for any hero or new pet. Please be patient for testing.

[nocturne oak]

yea I saw the 3.7 tril vs 300b defecit 5t thing 💔

or was it 1 team? at around chapter 78-24
Someone sent it here

[grim hamlet]

yea but it doesn't really matter tbh

[olive jewel]

I'm just talking about my own campaign. I have over 600 RC level deficit to enemies

[grim hamlet]

once you get that far you can pull out the teams that just don't care at all about the deficit and reflect the enemy's power back at them

so the stronger they are then the stronger you are and they fall just as easily

[nocturne oak]

Ouch but tbf the SI, the ascension, the engravins are very powerful so the deficit are there to put in place for strategy I assume

[nocturne oak]

😔 i just want my ascended envy and quit again
i only came back for aEnvy and OPM

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[nocturne oak]

estrilda not elthara?

[olive jewel]

all the enemies are 309e80 in my chapter

[nocturne oak]

... very demotivating to hear

[hexed mulch]

The guide says you should get Alna first from the challenger store, but i don't see her there?

[grim hamlet]

nah rc of enemies kind of doesn't matter. Its effectively just infinitely bigger and you kill them anyway. The things that do change strategy are mostly:

1. Engraved enemies (CC stops being free)
2. Pets (the balls are awful at that deficit)
3. Newer heroes being added (team wipe trish, unkillable naro, etc.)
4. Tasi. She never stops being awful

[nocturne oak]

:(' ty

[nocturne oak]

very scared now

[grim hamlet]

there's probably a bigger list of stuff JD and other endgame campers watch out for. I mostly pick up stuff from here

[nocturne oak]

u require chapter 31 to get alna into the shop
Will be beside fawkes

[grim hamlet]

I did try some pve on gus and can confirm, its pretty terrible lol

[nocturne oak]

who's lysander btw i heard he works ok with MKnox

[hexed mulch]

Now that makes sense thank you

[grim hamlet]

[hexed mulch]

i thought i was tweaking

[nocturne oak]

might be chapter 30 but i onyl recently saw it

not clear, reach

so clear chapt 30 i suppposee
I js got there onyl and I just only saw it after checking repeatedly
😔 i like to buy random stuff to gamba

[hexed mulch]

bet bet i will

[quartz yoke]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

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[river shuttle]

Are you whaling?

[safe compass]

Who should i try to get, i dont have awaken hero

[river shuttle]

Ashemira

[safe compass]

How many copies?

[safe compass]

1?

[drowsy terrace]

12 here

Then 3 more in the stargazer

[safe compass]

damn, thank you!

i got 2 with 72 with 6 discounts, not bad

[neon sparrow]

[river shuttle]

Thats okayish

Not great but decent

[safe compass]

could have been worse, exactly

[granite hawk]

Just got my Ivan to M. He is first prio for SI30 right?

[river shuttle]

Yes

[granite hawk]

ok ty!

[river shuttle]

[olive jewel]

re: last night talking about Levi with no Lucius comp

[river shuttle]

Gimme that elthara @olive jewel

[olive jewel]

think you may have misread the screenshot bud

[neon sparrow]

Two woke, a celepog, a hb, and a dragon elite

[river shuttle]

I saw the other one

[olive jewel]

it's her brother

[river shuttle]

I want that merc elthara

[olive jewel]

not Elthara

my Elthara is L

[river shuttle]

Nuh you got merc its better in my hands

[olive jewel]

ohhhh

[river shuttle]

[olive jewel]

you mean the one I merced

[river shuttle]

Yeee

[olive jewel]

....no

[river shuttle]

Yes

[olive jewel]

yeah but it would have a woke and HB with lucius too

[neon sparrow]

So, where I was going with that conversation last night on lan vs Levi vs sky is that Levi’s teams are very expensive

[olive jewel]

sure but I just mentioned levi and you asked where I used him without Lucius

I was not using this as like evidence that he should be first

my comps are not for early gamers I know

[neon sparrow]

Yeah, I was looking for specifics to see the cost before I made my statement lol

[olive jewel]

but I imagine Levi is still busted early

but idk

How many wokes do you have when you build first HB f2p on new accounts?

[neon sparrow]

I haven’t seen him in low cost teams anywhere but back to the whole ‘no small box testing’ thing

[olive jewel]

ye

[olive jewel]

we are talking TS

[river shuttle]

4-5 ig

[olive jewel]

really?

[river shuttle]

Idk, when i had two i was still at like 75-100 di

[olive jewel]

christ

we need DI sources

they have new powercreep, start making HB easier now

[river shuttle]

Its almost only nc and dragon trials, both not accessible for new players

[olive jewel]

rift store DI

problem solved

[neon sparrow]

Changing celepog to 4f is not much of a cost reduction at this point

[river shuttle]

It might be worth to spend dias at the start on dragons to get the first 2-3 dragon trials

[willow bison]

[olive jewel]

I have no idea how easy that is

like yeah there is probably a threshold there

but idk what it would cost to make something functional

[neon sparrow]

Bot’s here!

[olive jewel]

[neon sparrow]

Rng dependent too

[olive jewel]

If we ever had 5 great dragolites at once, pulling them early with scrolls becomes appealing

but there have yet to be 5 at the same time that were worth

[river shuttle]

Idk but if you get maybe the 10 di from store it might be worth x0000 diamonds

[neon sparrow]

Velu, Sion, melion…

[olive jewel]

melion is mid for early game too

begris is nutty but also a complete trap for early game

[neon sparrow]

We’re up to 4 that wouldn’t be wasted pulls though

[olive jewel]

dragolites are just barely kept alive by the limited time pull thing

f2p late game would be absolutely destroyed without that

light spender too tbh

[oak stirrup]

Minecraft dragon is your luck indicator, if you manage to grab that TY collection early then it's your destiny to get ahead of other unworthy fools, and should focus him earlier

[olive jewel]

but what do you gain by that early?

TR?

[neon sparrow]

Depended on the threshold though. If you could get 2-4 elites and get 10 DIs monthly, that would be worth it no?

[river shuttle]

Begris is also in ts no?

[olive jewel]

he wouldnt be enough to meanigfully help you in CR

[olive jewel]

yeah sometimes. He's not great though

[oak stirrup]

A huge buffer that has his place as the team foundation, actually give you that chance to instantly skip queue and go for top 100

[river shuttle]

Better than alot of early game options

[olive jewel]

certainly. Which is why idk what the threshold is

and luck is such a huge part

[oak stirrup]

Sion is the safe option which, as you have seen so many times, performs mediocre

[olive jewel]

like I have never felt like my luck has done a ton for me either way. Luck curve in this game is flatter than people want to give credit for

BUT

my Sion luck got me hugely ahead for months

[oak stirrup]

This is an occult chance based thing but sometimes getting that super meta way ahead lets you take some crazy risks which you know, may just get you leaderboard sooner than usual

[olive jewel]

I got Sion A1 in...340 pulls I think?

[oak stirrup]

It's of course not 100% proof but then again, I didn't think rationally when I built say, Maetria

[olive jewel]

with the release event free copies

[neon sparrow]

But would it matter which ones you got that early? Dragons jump to 600 rc automatically

[olive jewel]

you would probably want to be able to ascend them though, no?

at least a couple stages I mean

to like M or whatever

[neon sparrow]

For early DT

[olive jewel]

idk how hard or easy it is

[oak stirrup]

Dragon is catch 22 - you sacrifice others (much like implementing a new government directive) to get that online first, it's risk taking, not F2P 'safe huggers' friendly

[olive jewel]

I rolled it when it came out until like stage 9 as most of us talking here probably did

[oak stirrup]

But in return if you do pull it off, you get bigger payout and then probably snowball ahead of the 'top student wannabes'

[olive jewel]

which again comes back: nobody is testing early game anymore

[neon sparrow]

Wait, we get 3 or 4 sets of rewards between store refreshes?

[fickle ingot]

Is AEstrilda higher in prio list over Apippa? Am i safe to summon on her?

[oak stirrup]

Risk takers are nice to have, I respect @tepid raft for literally treding uncharted territory with Tatsumaki and don't laugh for that decision, only laugh at him for having Skylan and can't top 100

[olive jewel]

=newhero

[gilded sapphire]

Because we're going to get this question a lot;
We require multiple weeks of testing before confidently placing a hero or pet in the priority guides. All information you hear about the hero or pet is speculation. Nothing is confirmed or set in stone. We recommend you to save your pulls if you haven't already started summoning for any hero or new pet. Please be patient for testing.

[olive jewel]

[oak stirrup]

But I suspect, if you have 27 rabbit, you can make Tatsumaki work

[olive jewel]

4 I think? once a week for a month?

[oak stirrup]

=newhero unless you can get your hands on totally trustworthy dark tech info from so called 'cool kids club' groups

[gilded sapphire]

Because we're going to get this question a lot;
We require multiple weeks of testing before confidently placing a hero or pet in the priority guides. All information you hear about the hero or pet is speculation. Nothing is confirmed or set in stone. We recommend you to save your pulls if you haven't already started summoning for any hero or new pet. Please be patient for testing.

[neon sparrow]

480 tokens gets you all the DIs. 800 gets all DIs and all scrolls. So you only have to clear stage one for all DIs if that’s all you get

[oak stirrup]

I get it, everyone asks because they are impatient and want to get the info early so they can have advantage over others while being 'risk free' but nope, that's why we withold info

[neon sparrow]

Stage 8 to get all of both

[oak stirrup]

But more like completely unsure (some of us do though, just wait)

[olive jewel]

on that note please tell me

alright somebody test early game 1 dragon stage 1 trials pls

[oak stirrup]

The only reliable way you can tell unless you're backed by awesome info bases like Nihi, is actually doing your own investigation/observation and see how it works out for people who did build them

Stage 1 should be doable even with that fodder dude

[neon sparrow]

2*

[olive jewel]

[oak stirrup]

Do you even have enough resources

[olive jewel]

feelin lucky

[oak stirrup]

Most likely enough for two depending on her pulls

[olive jewel]

not most likely

I would need above average

[oak stirrup]

Are you kidding me? You see so many this time around get for under 350 or something

[olive jewel]

[neon sparrow]

Stage 2 1* too

[oak stirrup]

Oh I just realised Envydiel wasn't using weapon at all for TS this entire round

[olive jewel]

well we should probably convene the CS over this

[oak stirrup]

I mean early guide wants to try to factor in every single mode you can get your hands on that's easy to access yes? Dragon trial can be

[neon sparrow]

I’m sure Sion would be fine dps in umbriel’s spot. I just don’t have a spare copy to test. It’s also unaffected by tree, pet and dragon horn investments so accessible for all

Oh and not affected by collections

[open bloom]

Can I dm someone my box to help me with ts teams?

[neon sparrow]

Hey hey. Look at this! Best performing set. Better than the three team

[oak stirrup]

Current rank? Rank goal? Region?

[open bloom]

I’m r54 and I’m only 80% I don’t necessarily have a goal I just wanna do better than I’ve previously done cuz I’m not the best at team building

[oak stirrup]

Also current teams and current roster

[neon sparrow]

You should be able to send your box in two to three ss

[oak stirrup]

Also, current ranks don't actually matter, it's your calculation rounds that matters, you can suffer all day but then pull off good stuff at calculation and get super high rank

[open bloom]

The only teams I have are the ones I use for campaign

[oak stirrup]

That's... Not how TS works

Also if your roster is way way too little, there's practically nothing that can be done to improve

[pale barn]

Is Levi a contender at all for first highborn on a new account or always elthara?

[open bloom]

Oh ok

[oak stirrup]

He useless until at least SI40 at mythic, you're way way too far from that unless you are one of us spenders

[neon sparrow]

Elthara is a one copy wonder. Levi is a full build. Not comparable that way. Pull one copy of elth first

[oak stirrup]

Getting him up first is not the F2P 'I want everything working well at as little as possible' way

[pale barn]

Thank you both for the advice. I actually haven’t started, I’m a returning player from long ago and am waiting on 1189 to drop. Just trying to plan my route out

I’m gonna be spending but not sure how heavy yet

[oak stirrup]

You'll be happy (probably) to know that, the later you wait to start, the more advantage you will be accumulate, because how region based RGMs work, as well as the 'upgraded' arena mechanic that makes it no different to 'region based'

[left pike]

Im waiting for 1189 too

[oak stirrup]

You plan as you go, RNG and things WILL screw you over on the way and causing you to be unable to stick to the plans, also a lot of the minor things that don't matter in a long run (like non priority hero builds) can be disregarded, you're getting all of them built eventually, order won't get you ahead in a day and age where the super meta units are more or less, all behind paywalls

[pale barn]

Yeah that’s the intent and goal. I’d like to have as good as a start as RNG and moderate spending will let me so that I can stay competitive through RGMs

[oak stirrup]

Good start don't matter, it's your decision making on the way

You can push to 31 in days and then still stall because game decided you progress too fast for your own good

It's not a "I'll have a big plan and then when I do it I will be successful"

You cannot macro this game unless you're backed by funds and have the ambition to top leaderboards

[pale barn]

Very true. I’m trying to learn everything I can and will be reaching out to guild/mentors along the way to avoid mistakes along the way

[wheat aspen]

Who's better so far fawkes or Peppa?

[oak stirrup]

=newhero

[gilded sapphire]

Because we're going to get this question a lot;
We require multiple weeks of testing before confidently placing a hero or pet in the priority guides. All information you hear about the hero or pet is speculation. Nothing is confirmed or set in stone. We recommend you to save your pulls if you haven't already started summoning for any hero or new pet. Please be patient for testing.

[oak stirrup]

Keyword is 'patient' and 'wait'

[wheat aspen]

So you dont have an opinion k

[oak stirrup]

Some of us do, we just choose to withold it, but you can easily find out by observing what they did

[wheat aspen]

So pippa, we just afraid to say it

[vivid wolf]

[oak stirrup]

Remember, don't look back and regret once you make your decision, this is your own story

[vivid wolf]

i regret 409e68-ing peepo

[oak stirrup]

I don't, but I had to 27 rabbit to go with her to make team usable

[vivid wolf]

you whale.. my wabbit gonna be 18 5ever

[neon sparrow]

Why?

[olive jewel]

what is the average leaves per woke pet?

[vivid wolf]

cause im weird

[oak stirrup]

OOPS I mean 25

But it does seem like I got significantly better rates on rabbit than horse back then

[vivid wolf]

anything more than 18 is whale

[oak stirrup]

Like uncommonly you see the next one in 10-ish pulls

[vivid wolf]

[oak stirrup]

Horse back then was almost strictly 25-30 for me

[vivid wolf]

you get the special pet deals ?

[oak stirrup]

Well yeah how else do you get to 27 that quickly and it's almost like its minimal usable

[olive jewel]

how many leaves do I have is also a good question

[oak stirrup]

I think if you just go the weekly deals and maybe the earlier one off ship deals, you can reach 36 way before end of ship

[neon sparrow]

I used it successfully at 24 last week

[olive jewel]

477

[vivid wolf]

i look at the pet deals and i feel like it has scam written all over it

[tepid raft]

Thanks my friend lol

[oak stirrup]

But but you are chonky that's why, rest of your stuff just carries you that the pet don't matter as much, it's like a root canal'd tooth still somewhat 'alive' thanks to the gums around it

[olive jewel]

what TS region are you?

[tepid raft]

49

[neon sparrow]

I mean no. That’s not how nc works. 20 chest was bricked

[tepid raft]

Im ass jacko

[olive jewel]

you should be t100 bud sorry

[oak stirrup]

🫏

[olive jewel]

jack asso

[vivid wolf]

[tepid raft]

Ik

[tepid raft]

Perfect

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/steveo-thumbs-up-gif-5384359

[olive jewel]

anyone know Wawkes X/6 in CR?

[oak stirrup]

Looks like 5 or 6 to me but like I don't pay attention, just plagiarise

[neon sparrow]

I should add 19 chest was not bricked

[oak stirrup]

Just 36 la 💅

[neon sparrow]

That looks like a Farara question

[neon sparrow]

Why? When 24 worked just fine

[olive jewel]

is the spreadsheet updated

[oak stirrup]

More chonky, more betta

[olive jewel]

Imm go to guide review server hold on

[neon sparrow]

Not true

[charred jetty]

oh yikes...

that's central's region

[olive jewel]

fararara spreadsheet apparently updated last in may

[charred jetty]

iirc 49 was pretty tough

[oak stirrup]

Not tough enough, bring back 46

[olive jewel]

JD We have been discussing

pulling a small amount of dragolites early might be worth for dragonforge income

[oak stirrup]

JD I ran out of tower poes, gieb

[charred jetty]

I mean you know my stance on dragons

and that was before I knew how bad NC was

[olive jewel]

actually wait

[vivid wolf]

kisaka chan can i leave saitama 309e30 ?

[olive jewel]

I totally forgot

how does the one copy Elthara do there?

[charred jetty]

now that I know how bad NC is, not doing dragon early is absolutely trolling

[olive jewel]

is that enough?

[oak stirrup]

Doragon is the F2P way to being able to drive on the side road and overtake people, it's kind of cheaty but hey, anything to get ahead

[olive jewel]

I will feel a lot better about this if next dragon is good

[solar fractal]

Now is the best time to start “giving away” accs if you ask me great business

[oak stirrup]

In theory Hat could have dominated so many F2Ps for having massive funds to be able to 5* every regular and probably pull enough highborn to M, but you know, cowards never prosper

[olive jewel]

ok yeah L Elthara clears stage one with 2 stars alone

[oak stirrup]

Hoarding too much gives you illness

[olive jewel]

and stage 2 with one star

[solar fractal]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[charred jetty]

I think they need to max DT

asap

[olive jewel]

ye

[charred jetty]

DT is better RGM than NC and CR will be for the first 2 years or so

same as MV

[vivid wolf]

day 552 of downvoting plebbit

[olive jewel]

Elthara alone might be enough for that

[charred jetty]

better than NC and CR for thefirst 2 years

[oak stirrup]

How hard is it for 11 and 12 though, it's at least a year for F2P or however fast they can build one highborn

[charred jetty]

if anyone tells me "campaign not important, need to focus NC", they're literally trolling now

[left pike]

Back as admin

[olive jewel]

you can get all DI and Scrolls without those though

[oak stirrup]

Campaign past 45 is not important

[vivid wolf]

campaign not important, need to focus nc

[charred jetty]

good point

but

[oak stirrup]

That's why, they need to put even more reward in misty to compensate and poosh people to clearing 60

[charred jetty]

yeah so need to rush ch46

[olive jewel]

we get 4 payouts per month from dragonforge right?

[charred jetty]

frankly nothing else matters

something like that yeah

[olive jewel]

4 payouts per store

[charred jetty]

ch46 also gives you 5 DIs per month

that's more than people are getting from NC for the first year

[drowsy terrace]

from mv yes?

[charred jetty]

ye

they should just extend MV indefinitely out

[oak stirrup]

Personally I think priority of clearing trial 8 > campaign 45 > rest and you wait until IJ pops back up

[olive jewel]

So we need to figure out how to get people stage 8 asap

[charred jetty]

I don't have any personal agenda related to that trust

[oak stirrup]

If you're into dragon cards of course

[charred jetty]

yeah that's the thing too

[neon sparrow]

That’s three teams though

[olive jewel]

@neon sparrow Don't forget that stage 8 of dragongforge is required to unlock the full store

[charred jetty]

new players might not actually need HBs that much

[radiant root]

is IJ on a schedule?

[charred jetty]

like they would probbaly need wokes and celepos and whatever more

[neon sparrow]

That’s for you CS folk to remember

[charred jetty]

HBs are too expensive for their impact

[olive jewel]

hopefully. It's only been once

[oak stirrup]

You don't need dragons to finish the game, it just so happens they make game easier so spenders all spread propaganda that you need it, F2P should be happy with their free bun instead of expecting lobster

[olive jewel]

That's why I reminded you

[charred jetty]

I'd rather just hoard mithril than whale HB atp

[oak stirrup]

Rumour has it that CS are Children Spankers

[drowsy terrace]

huh?

leave me out of this beef

[solar fractal]

Technically for nc you only need 1hb

[charred jetty]

so are new players just locked out of RGMs as whole then?

[drowsy terrace]

tough

[charred jetty]

give it like 1-2 more years, NC BiS is going to be like 4-5 HBs

[drowsy terrace]

even JD is not free from the bot

[neon sparrow]

Getting past stage three won’t happen without nondragon probably. That’ll take some rc invest too

[charred jetty]

what bot

[oak stirrup]

Everyone wants the path of least resistance so there's no dedicated people out there making 'no dragon NC clears'

[charred jetty]

[drowsy terrace]

please dont speak this into existence

[charred jetty]

I feel like it's guaranteed

which like we would be fine because we'd have the 4-5 HBs or whatever required

[drowsy terrace]

let time do its thing

[olive jewel]

HB will be the new wokes eventually

[charred jetty]

but new players?

[vivid wolf]

4-5 woke pets more like it

[charred jetty]

dyno I will

[olive jewel]

assuming game lives

[oak stirrup]

The next step of evolution past awakened is awakening your dragon's blood

[drowsy terrace]

new player?

[hollow parcel]

Hello @drowsy terrace,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[olive jewel]

old player

[drowsy terrace]

get this bot checked out

[radiant root]

both tbh

[vivid wolf]

fckit 26 is year of the horse. just gonna do 27 horse

[drowsy terrace]

whale

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/foto-gif-7775265015927858444

[tepid raft]

You can recover flames ????

[oak stirrup]

U can get away without on your server but over here you can't really compete without 27

[solar fractal]

The only way the game is gonna be saved is if they add r9 where everyone doesn’t have Marci

[vivid wolf]

i can get away without many things here but somehow still get bonked cause colls

[solar fractal]

(Never gonna happen)

[oak stirrup]

You know what they should do to make F2P feel easier to play GF? They should scale your max torches by how many teams you have, so F2P only have to worry about having 2 torch on each of their starting two teams, they won't need to click as much in the cheap ass rift wannabe

[drowsy terrace]

i hate needing 4 teams to beat the stage but only having 3

[vivid wolf]

that triggered me so much i just got the 4th

[oak stirrup]

#itjustworks

[drowsy terrace]

i cannot and will not spend on this game

[river shuttle]

[drowsy terrace]

bud ive played this game for 7 years now

[oak stirrup]

Last time I heard a similar quote was from... CNC4 doesn't exist

[drowsy terrace]

im not about to start

[viscid hound]

do I fully engrave my randle?

[solar fractal]

No only e30

[oak stirrup]

For what purpose? He won't be a key unit to make you ahead of others if you're talking about competitive

[viscid hound]

so whom do I e30

[vivid wolf]

saitama

[drowsy terrace]

=engrave

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1465788116475576414/53SlE6X.png?ex=697a610f&is=69790f8f&hm=92a24e1003a65607380156978c83f65df0b2b7bc8413294f8db5a6fe824e3026&

[oak stirrup]

If you're unsure you wait

[charred jetty]

btw for DT

[drowsy terrace]

benno bud this the correct one?

[charred jetty]

are dragons all that help, or does having like envy and stuff also help

[viscid hound]

thanks guys

[charred jetty]

idk how DT works

[solar fractal]

@river shuttle kinda fked up you didn’t put my name on that guide

[charred jetty]

it's kinda weird that there's no actual battle

[olive jewel]

you have a Saitama for merc on weekly reset?

[river shuttle]

Learn to read mf

[vivid wolf]

[river shuttle]

I think so

[solar fractal]

Oh you actually did

[drowsy terrace]

cool

[charred jetty]

you're literally first

[drowsy terrace]

man said levi

[charred jetty]

[solar fractal]

💨

[vivid wolf]

should have made it.. causal

[oak stirrup]

Main only most likely reserved to alt though

[olive jewel]

may I pls?

[drowsy terrace]

you should have used my full title

[olive jewel]

if not reserved

[drowsy terrace]

fuck i hate NC mercing so much

[oak stirrup]

Will see the comps first to see if I need

[viscid hound]

Summon or wait more? Also should i keep going for Ashem? Only have 1 copy currently

[river shuttle]

Yea

[drowsy terrace]

last week we killed people for kae's and elth's

[solar fractal]

Yes yes and yes

[oak stirrup]

Alt chose not to buy this time around, thinking back maybe I should have

[drowsy terrace]

now we merc a bald head

[river shuttle]

Egg

[viscid hound]

what? xdd please elaborate bro

[solar fractal]

Shem will be your first woke that’s not changing anytime soon so might as well summon while you have the discount

[drowsy terrace]

i hate that everytime they release dims they somehow make it into nc

[oak stirrup]

Do some F2Ps get irritated by having to wait, wait and more wait, and they can't resist the urge to splurge their resources?

[drowsy terrace]

atleast its not as bad as when marci released

[oak stirrup]

Because during the time they wait people are zooming past them with their new built toys

[drowsy terrace]

for me its not even about that

[radiant root]

I mean thats kinda the point right

[drowsy terrace]

its being blocked from t100 or t200 simply because you choose to or cant spend on the game

[vivid wolf]

think the wait is cause the dim shards are still gated by weekly unlock

[drowsy terrace]

like cool, fuck me for not wanting to spend on your shitty game right

[oak stirrup]

Even if waiting and doing bigger plan means you win bigger in the end?

[vivid wolf]

instead of splurging rss

[drowsy terrace]

if youre broke just say that

like suffer or dont

thats how comp is

[olive jewel]

depends. The waiting works in late game because the people are building marginal mediocre heroes and giving mediocre investments and not actually zooming past

[drowsy terrace]

and i hate this type specifically

[oak stirrup]

Das the thing, late game is when your rando idea of say making Maetria, cause you to get ahead and get that top 20 on older region, when someone else chose not to, they stay 50

[vivid wolf]

dont think ill be broke ever

[oak stirrup]

And then it drives them insane enough, they build her too, but still lose out top 20 because you got there first

[olive jewel]

then new meta comes out like Envy. And I 409e60 Envy like a day or two after release and I am happy I hoarded

[inner olive]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[drowsy terrace]

for me the woke releases arent even that big of an issue anymore

the dims and hbs hurt me the most

[vivid wolf]

yes 62 per elth copy is killing me

[drowsy terrace]

like sure saving will help but what am i to do if i like an idiot someone has already started pulling an HB and then i get the acc

[drowsy terrace]

i always have shitty rates on levi

[charred jetty]

you know the drill

jump acc

[oak stirrup]

And that's why I get offended at the idea that Hildwin should be swappable, unlike TE you don't have enough resources to be able to 5* on a whim, this is giving F2P massive advantage without downside

[charred jetty]

[drowsy terrace]

the idiot before

decided

[charred jetty]

they lose hildwin for a whole year

[drowsy terrace]

im gonna pull levi, without saving

[olive jewel]

I wouldn't know bud

[drowsy terrace]

so i hop on and im like cool

only for elth to release

and im forced to continue building levi

[vivid wolf]

my acc is cursed. sg te di always pity cept that one time i A1 safi <300

[oak stirrup]

Hildwin can be subbed, instant 409E60+ 5* highborn will still be ahead of some spenders who have 1-2*

[drowsy terrace]

my lan rates will always beat out whatever your best rates are

[olive jewel]

My Levi was 800 DI

[drowsy terrace]

source?

mine was too bud

hell i feel like it hit 900

4 months after it releases i finish him

like wtf

[charred jetty]

i mean levi > elth anyways

[solar fractal]

Wait it can go this high

[oak stirrup]

You haven't observed from leaderboards? Most people are having say Leviathan at 1*, how do you think they feel if some random ass F2P gets a 5 out of the blue practically for no effort?

[charred jetty]

even if built elth is better, it's much better to have built levi and 1 copy elth then built elth and 1 copy levi

[oak stirrup]

Or Skylan, suddenly you see 5* Skylan when you could spend so much insignia and nowhere close, reminder DI is rarer than TE

TE is quite abundant now that swapping Eugene isn't a problem

Also the SG past ascended thing

Why should spenders have to 'get even' by dumping even more DIs against a F2P that gets a 5* for free

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-hush-m-dear-amelia-mckellan-loretta-devine-family-reunion-gif-18438499

[drowsy terrace]

this f2p you speak of is a few in a thousand

most of them like me just suffer with whatever the game gives us

best example is colls

[oak stirrup]

Doesn't matter, keep current norm, nobody complains because you know, it never existed and the door is never opened

[viscid hound]

whhy get gorok if you can get Oku with two side goroks he be flexin

[drowsy terrace]

like how can a bastard like omega build a perfect coll on his first try every now and again

[oak stirrup]

Is Oku even used in RGMs

[drowsy terrace]

but i have to spend 4 months to build that same coll

[oak stirrup]

He is decent for tower yes but yeah

[drowsy terrace]

beatlejuice?

[vivid wolf]

oku is a meme in malaysia.

[oak stirrup]

To be fair, even with 'perfect collection Omega is like still struggling on leaderboard no?

[drowsy terrace]

well yea thats just server age

the next roadblock

[vivid wolf]

here it stands for Orang Kurang Upaya which basically means.. disabled

[drowsy terrace]

woku next?

[vivid wolf]

Wallahi Orang Kurang Upaya

[oak stirrup]

Orang utan

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/mokey-cute-adorable-orangutan-gif-15189254

[charred jetty]

I mean all the swaps are like this though

[oak stirrup]

Until DI is anywhere near as abundant, swapping Hildwin is hell no

The thing with spending is to not only get ahead, and to setting distant further from competition, allowing F2P to randomly leap ahead? No

Unless swapping itself is a pay package

[vivid wolf]

i'd pay tree fiddy to swap my 5* hild

[oak stirrup]

$99.99USD, and that's still cheaper than building a highborn to 1*

[charred jetty]

first with wukong/flora, then with eugene

[river shuttle]

That’s like not even 10%

[vivid wolf]

yea no thats 1/6 my salary

[oak stirrup]

Again, you can't even make up for the star losses because you can't use anything other than DI to get

[charred jetty]

the problem with no hildwin swap is you are basically rewarding people for being dumb and building dgwyn

rewarding dumb behavior

[drowsy terrace]

thats literally 50% of my allowance

[charred jetty]

just like what they did with atalene

[river shuttle]

The whales can swap too sothey get a 5star aswell if theyre missing one

[jaunty plume]

hello people

[dark musk]

This team isnt bad but I probably can’t beat it because I don’t have rem and shuna to one star, i at least need one star for both of them

[vivid wolf]

i have to work for my allowance

[river shuttle]

Rare os appearance

[drowsy terrace]

[charred jetty]

the people who actually held and observed the meta before just building the first that comes out? oh yeah they can get screwed

[oak stirrup]

They spent their DI, I'll be honest I'm completely against dragon swap in general, but if they are stubborn and still push forward with this dumbass agenda then at the very least, no Hildwin

[jaunty plume]

is everyone getting rage baited by Kisaka again?

[drowsy terrace]

im young with no job and in uni studying law

[charred jetty]

get job

[drowsy terrace]

yes i am being ragebaited

[charred jetty]

[drowsy terrace]

no

[river shuttle]

[drowsy terrace]

we make money online now

[jaunty plume]

i too have been a victim of it too many times bud

[drowsy terrace]

might join a call scam center

[vivid wolf]

onlyfeet ?

[river shuttle]

[oak stirrup]

That's not how it works, dupe furnitures do not get retained

[jaunty plume]

[dark musk]

Don’t cuss 😂

[charred jetty]

be a founder of a call scam center instead

make more money

[oak stirrup]

May as well just leave it an 'old event' style without dragon swaps

[charred jetty]

get longer prison time

[turbid spade]

Jd this is not good advice😭

[drowsy terrace]

nah, i dont have the time to start from scratch

[river shuttle]

I can’t swap wokes or celehypo

[oak stirrup]

Too hard, gotta be part of the leadership board in government

[jaunty plume]

Poopa looking like si40 unit right buds?

[drowsy terrace]

sadly bud

[jaunty plume]

you have a decent stash of reds and whites no?

[drowsy terrace]

like i genuinely think she might be the first max build woke we have had in a while

[drowsy terrace]

ive already done it

[jaunty plume]

[drowsy terrace]

saving up for saitama now

[vivid wolf]

[jaunty plume]

eh i got 700 dimblems

[oak stirrup]

Well do you have E80/36f and all that? Surely it's not like all of your awakened celepogean are 5036E100 yes?

[dark musk]

Jesus I’m gonna be stuck in chapter 33 for a while

[drowsy terrace]

now you can start playing AFK arena

[oak stirrup]

Two years ago I swapped awakened Talene to Gavus and he instantly became 36f, dominated TS so hard

[river shuttle]

They’re not but i need all i have i don’t have room to swap, if they dont add dragons no one is even gonna care about the swap

[dark musk]

Yeah I just want to find a quitter account now

[jaunty plume]

two years later he’s still in TS

[drowsy terrace]

make connections

[oak stirrup]

Then just get your happy 10k diamond, or figure out other ways you can save, like saving on engrave materials

[river shuttle]

Ask in nihi or something tbh

[oak stirrup]

At one point I swapped in for Zohra so, she also 36f

[jaunty plume]

[drowsy terrace]

nihi dont just hand out acc's

[river shuttle]

If you have motivation and can sell yourself properly you might get an account

[drowsy terrace]

they have to know of you atleast

[radiant root]

Anyone happen to see any obvious improvements to my broke ahh NC teams?

[dark musk]

If I was doing good in events maybe I would have “connections”

[oak stirrup]

Nihi give me one so I can operate three for a trivumerate

[jaunty plume]

yea only to skilled and known people who are trusted

[dark musk]

exactly

[drowsy terrace]

im trusted

[charred jetty]

what even is skilled people now

[drowsy terrace]

never said i was skilled

[charred jetty]

is top 100 TS even possible

[river shuttle]

I got one mf

[jaunty plume]

you right, you the exception bud

[vivid wolf]

i can chug a beer in <5s

[charred jetty]

lategame RGMs and early RGMs are two completely different games

[drowsy terrace]

yeesh bud

[river shuttle]

Watch me get bigger acc than you and still worse reuslts

[oak stirrup]

F2P progression towards it? For older regions is about waiting out for people to quit, for 54 well, wait for that next big gamebreaker hero release and then do not hesitate

[jaunty plume]

idek, someone who does the best possible with the resources/box they have

[radiant root]

in my defense I havent played for a few months lol

[river shuttle]

R54 doesn’t have solo leveling collab right?

[charred jetty]

just like lategame camp and early camp are two completely different games

[jaunty plume]

id be surprised if u get a bigger account than Typho

[oak stirrup]

Yeah so in a way it's even easier

[drowsy terrace]

literally would have to wait for kaia to quit

[dark musk]

honestly idek what I’m gonna do, I’m gonna be stuck in chapter 33 for a while and I don’t think I’m strong enough for events

[river shuttle]

But now you have new problem when you dtart you missed opm collsb

[drowsy terrace]

afk bud

afk

touch grass

kiss a dog

[charred jetty]

late rgm is copy comp, find subs

[drowsy terrace]

idk man

[oak stirrup]

You wait for more resources so you can progress, of course

[charred jetty]

earlyt game is you have to cook your own thing

and say you get really damn good at that and you get an acc

[crystal yarrow]

Guys when is new hb gonna release i wanna know if i should m40 lev or nah

[oak stirrup]

Well that's both Lilith problem and their own

[jaunty plume]

we don’t want that, but tbh Fara might be better positioned for rgms than Typhos account although lower VIP

[charred jetty]

suddenly you realize your skill at cooking things is basically useless because the acc has all the BiS that you can just copy

[drowsy terrace]

well yea fara is the goat

could cook on any account thats big enough

[oak stirrup]

Excellent, mooler tower too

[vivid wolf]

how long do i have to wait

[crystal yarrow]

Anyone?

[dark musk]

I do trust me

[drowsy terrace]

wait

[oak stirrup]

That power gets you into 78-13

[crystal yarrow]

Yh when is new hb releasing?

[drowsy terrace]

i think elth still has like 2 more months

[river shuttle]

I was just giving an example on how bad i am

[drowsy terrace]

i dont

[vivid wolf]

we only have 1 guy thats >2T for solo stage

[oak stirrup]

Julius is 3T now

[crystal yarrow]

Alr but i shouldnt m40 lev rn right?

[vivid wolf]

we dont have julius. we have... jurius

[river shuttle]

One team of bro is bigger than 99% of accounts😂

[drowsy terrace]

tbh he would only help your cr and not by much

he will be exploded in ts

[crystal yarrow]

Isnt he good in both nc and ts?

[drowsy terrace]

that mf needs so much investment to become good

[dark musk]

Alright so basically don’t play and log on every 16-18 hours

[drowsy terrace]

oh yea he is in nc now

[crystal yarrow]

Why?

[river shuttle]

High invest and good synergy w uwucius

[drowsy terrace]

cant get his shield up fast enough, and not enough hp

[vivid wolf]

[drowsy terrace]

seek help

[crystal yarrow]

I see so ima just wait then

[vivid wolf]

uwu..cius

[oak stirrup]

Oh right right, 78-2

[river shuttle]

[drowsy terrace]

oh im on 78-9

[river shuttle]

Whale

[drowsy terrace]

the rc gap really is ridiculous

[river shuttle]

Bro i need like 1k exp for lvl 41 i want this other color

[drowsy terrace]

i mean

[vivid wolf]

you get colours ? im stuck being pee

[drowsy terrace]

@charred jetty anything you can do here bud?

[river shuttle]

Pshh

[drowsy terrace]

i mean im sure it can be overridden

[dark musk]

alright I might be getting a account soon

[river shuttle]

[vivid wolf]

it can ???

[inner olive]

spoiler alert: you will not be stuck in chapter 33 for a while

[vivid wolf]

/chsngecolour neon orange

[dark musk]

I’ve already been stuck for almost a week

[vivid wolf]

nope doesnt work

[river shuttle]

That’s not long

[dark musk]

Time passes by just watch

[radiant root]

uh speaking of alucius is this team fried for ts

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[dark musk]

What is it now Benno?

[river shuttle]

You kinda need Levi there for it to be rly good

[drowsy terrace]

well yea, wuci sucks without levi

[river shuttle]

I’m just curious who’s throwing around with accounts and how far the acc gonna. R

[dark musk]

I think you spelt change wrong or is it supposed to be like that

[drowsy terrace]

this wuci guy is a baby who need his papa levi

[radiant root]

well shit guess no more wuci team

[dark musk]

Hold up let me send a screenshot

[vivid wolf]

[dark musk]

I cant send all of them but here is a little glance of the account

[vivid wolf]

61t6udp13b

[radiant root]

mid

[river shuttle]

This acc looks rly fried ngl

[inner olive]

could not find gift code

[radiant root]

old player who hasnt been active in a while or usm

[inner olive]

me when the vip code is already used

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/look-harder-monkey-lion-king-reflection-rafiki-gif-17120778

[drowsy terrace]

bricked

[dark musk]

Bullcrap

[river shuttle]

No rank plate w 2t power sounds sad

[inner olive]

if you actually look closer this account is kinda dead

[dark musk]

wow I can just never get lucky huh?

[vivid wolf]

haters gonna hate

[inner olive]

he doesn't have any meta heroes ascended at least in the maulers

[drowsy terrace]

all i needed to see was mythic saf

[river shuttle]

And m+ kfc

[drowsy terrace]

then i saw mythic fanta

[inner olive]

l bin laden 🥀

[drowsy terrace]

and the absolute kicker e60 naro

[dark musk]

How about this?

[radiant root]

yeh cooked bro

awks are nonexistant

[river shuttle]

I think thats the only thing in that ss i would not hate

[dark musk]

I give up I just gotta afk for 16-18 hours

[dark musk]

😔

[drowsy terrace]

truly what do people do in this game

[river shuttle]

The dims are the only good about that acc

[drowsy terrace]

how do you brick your account this badly

[radiant root]

chooses a game named afk arena

[drowsy terrace]

sre you blind?

si40 rem

[inner olive]

it's actually not very hard you just have to take a break for like a year and a half

[vivid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/we-all-make-bad-decisions-bad-decision-bad-choice-bad-move-wrong-choice-gif-15629707

[river shuttle]

Atleast he has marci + sjw collabs

[inner olive]

like this guy did

[drowsy terrace]

and an e60 ainz, and joan

[drowsy terrace]

this has to be 2 years

[river shuttle]

This looks like 2 years break

[radiant root]

well ainz was meta the last time that acct was good

[oak stirrup]

Go, and rewind Winz

[river shuttle]

Get out of my brain pls sir

[dark musk]

Yeah I’m just not gonna buy the account I changed my mind

[drowsy terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-the-whole-generation-generation-nuke-funny-gif-6559866131259948476

[river shuttle]

Ofc not

[inner olive]

yeah it looks like he uninstalled 2 years ago, and reinstalled the game a few months ago with absolutely no idea what to do

[drowsy terrace]

bud i type with no cooldown

im just faster

[river shuttle]

You’re cheater

[drowsy terrace]

what you do is restart

[dark musk]

I give up

[drowsy terrace]

no oden slander

kisaka you know this

[river shuttle]

Dont buy any acc without asking some experienced players ngl

[radiant root]

what was the price out of curiosity

[river shuttle]

I would take it if someone pays me 300€

[inner olive]

probably 200 dollars because the guy had no idea his account was cooked

[dark musk]

30 dollars

[vivid wolf]

wait... ppl actually pay for shit like that ?

[oak stirrup]

What the that's bargain

[dark musk]

True

[river shuttle]

Thats actually not too bad but you wont have any fun w that acc

[drowsy terrace]

hell i dont even if know if the guy has colls

the heroes might look fine

[radiant root]

but but but 1.8T it must be good

[river shuttle]

Ig not

[drowsy terrace]

but if the colls are shit you have no fun

[inner olive]

boy probably got a duras call on that si40 rem

[dark musk]

I just give up man

[drowsy terrace]

sleep

[radiant root]

look for one with a good rank plate at least

[oak stirrup]

Yes give up, figure out how to actually play first before you indulge in this account business

[river shuttle]

If you achieve something noticeable or yap allot you might get a shot on guild accs but you gotta know the game first

[drowsy terrace]

like you?

[river shuttle]

Well i just yapped alot i think

[drowsy terrace]

[torpid seal]

u got it twin

[river shuttle]

And i wrote a long ahh paragraph for dubby

[dark musk]

I’m just gonna have to f2p anyway, I might aswell just learn the game

[dark musk]

It’s gonna be way to expensive for me then, it’s just not worth it

[olive jewel]

I got CS not by yapping a lot but yapping helpfully and accurately

[river shuttle]

I played almost f2p and got to ch 42 in less than 3 months

[radiant root]

good idea

[river shuttle]

I think im pretty helpful too

[drowsy terrace]

you arent getting cs

no one is

[olive jewel]

I also appeared at a time where we needed CS

[river shuttle]

I don’t want

[olive jewel]

There were straight up not active CS at all

They got Nem and I

[river shuttle]

Im js saying

[dark musk]

Alright what order of guides should I read first?

[drowsy terrace]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia :athaliaAwakened: (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use Ivan :ivan: + Randle :randle: or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. After ch16, go to highborn pulling area and pull until you get exactly 1 copy of Elthara :elthara: . She is an awesome hypercarry at 1 copy in early campaign and TS.
13. Repeat steps 8-10 until you hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[river shuttle]

Ive just read the beginner guide i think thats about it

[drowsy terrace]

@charred jetty where is the 2nd part of this

[charred jetty]

2nd part?

[drowsy terrace]

like the ch31 - ch45

[charred jetty]

oh

[drowsy terrace]

the midgame fluff

[charred jetty]

uh...

[drowsy terrace]

people need hand holding

[charred jetty]

I haven't explored the midgame enough yet, and we haven't settled on important decisions

[olive jewel]

Where is the part for me also

[drowsy terrace]

fair enough

[river shuttle]

People need to pay if they cant get trhough it

[charred jetty]

if it were up to me, afawkes first, dragon 300 every release, hard focus TS and DT and campaign

[inner olive]

yeah what about those who need hand holding after chapter 45

[drowsy terrace]

buddy you are a relic like the rest of us

[olive jewel]

I am kinda on the end of camp

[drowsy terrace]

suffer

[olive jewel]

just pushing when it updates

[charred jetty]

but I don't think we've settled on those things yet

[river shuttle]

Theyre special like me

[jaunty plume]

=ratio

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1365328577561886740/RDT_20250425_0707255117226094771476277.jpg?ex=680ce8d3&is=680b9753&hm=b814c2f065b318f58746e04bb4fa6e42892297e393fa95795bd0046ce5451d3b&

[charred jetty]

I also think we should do maybe flights week 1, then from week 2 onwards spam the skillset covers until they get 3

also probably not approved yet

[river shuttle]

Why dont you just save that image

[charred jetty]

most of consensus is still stuck in RGM from the get go focus

[jaunty plume]

eh idk.. then i have to fish for the image in camera i’d rather do command

[charred jetty]

I personally think that approach is outdated and is thus a suboptimal pathing

but again, not settled and everyone disagrees with me

[inner olive]

valid

[river shuttle]

Im up for dropping ashem

[olive jewel]

I think I have been convinced about dragonforge early

[river shuttle]

[olive jewel]

and still think TS is prio 1

[dark musk]

Already done everything and read all

[charred jetty]

honsetly what's the worst that can happen lol

[jaunty plume]

BOOM - credit to JD for being a big time hoarder

[drowsy terrace]

youre done talking

[charred jetty]

lol

[river shuttle]

Nuh

[inner olive]

i mean what else would be

[jaunty plume]

eh idek if i’m still using any of the rss you saved up tbh JD

[river shuttle]

Need 400 more exp

[charred jetty]

DT/MV

[radiant root]

find someone smart in ur server and just copy everything they do fr

[inner olive]

what are those

[charred jetty]

but the thing with those is you can get by eventually

dragon trial and misty valley

not competitive RGMs, but resource generating modes for sure

[olive jewel]

There is nothing to do for MV though

like you dont need to try

[inner olive]

misty valley is literally just complete the shit once a month get rewards and wait another month for it to come back

[dark musk]

I would rather just learn the game myself and become smart

[olive jewel]

grab a watha or envy or something merc and go nuts

[charred jetty]

no MV focus is early game camp sprint

it's jsut the point of the sprint is max MV

[olive jewel]

...wait did I do this MV yet

[river shuttle]

[olive jewel]

oooooh

[charred jetty]

you don't need to build for the actual MV itself lol

[radiant root]

well yeh like try and understand why they are doing what they are lol

[inner olive]

it resets in a day so better go do it if you didn't

[charred jetty]

MV guide is merc a giga awthalia

slap on heroes to hit the criteria

the end

[olive jewel]

I did it

[river shuttle]

Just every woke hero workes ngl

[charred jetty]

ye

[inner olive]

even atalene

[charred jetty]

awthalia is easiest and fastest though

not that it really matters

[olive jewel]

My acc advanced enough that hero choice is like the worst MV chest node

[river shuttle]

If she’s fat enough

[dark musk]

Fair

[inner olive]

me when the 5036100 aTalene kicks in

[charred jetty]

pretty sure just 309e60 atalene easy wins in MV

MV was tuned for a time where eironn was strong

[river shuttle]

Mv is rly not hard its rather boring

Its kinda like gf but it has better rewards

[charred jetty]

and then they kept nerfing the enemies whilst powercreeping the game

[inner olive]

i hate how you can do like 5 stages and then you have to wait a week to finish it

[charred jetty]

for like 4 years

now it's just

[olive jewel]

I 'member mercing a Lucretia for MV

[inner olive]

you member

guys jacko members

[dark musk]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[olive jewel]

'member*

[charred jetty]

but ye point is hard sprint campaign could also be a focus

I need to work out the pathing for midgame though

need to redo early game too

we have so much op stuff though

saitama, pippa, elth,

[olive jewel]

hard sprint 31 already kinda what most people are doing

so really about that midgame stuff now

[inner olive]

i remember when this guide said to garrison shalltear after rem 😭

[charred jetty]

well that's not really a sprint

since there's nothing else to do before ch31

[river shuttle]

Welp shaltear should be here

[charred jetty]

like there are no other gamemodes other than camp

[olive jewel]

whatever

[inner olive]

guild boss

[olive jewel]

still

[charred jetty]

true

but ye

=earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1444410826961322146/8v0Ga9h.png?ex=692c9be9&is=692b4a69&hm=16420762014c1675ddadad22154602562ffb94068ae6bb51648f888bebdb0421&

[river shuttle]

Tr

[charred jetty]

I need a test account to update this

[inner olive]

you can get like 100 diamonds a year from there so that's something

[charred jetty]

having op new releases is a blessing for new players, but can also be a curse sometimes

[river shuttle]

You can have this if you want

[charred jetty]

one week a certain build path is optimal, and is outdated the very next

[charred jetty]

fawkes first?

[austere nest]

These are my +40 , working on libertha still. Do i need someone else ?