classic-questions

[dark musk]

if it was possible i dont even know what to run 😭

[tepid totem]

yeah ts is rough

[quartz totem]

why do i get these ones instead of mythic gear in campaign

[drifting hemlock]

uhh js win bro benno is right

Literally no tips no comps js meta heroes against meta heroes

[river shuttle]

cant beat casual anyways hes the goat

[tepid totem]

@quartz totemthose are to upgrade artefacts

[quartz totem]

yeah but not the ones that i am using

[dark musk]

yeah I can tell I’m not gonna do well in the TS most likely

[tepid totem]

u'll need em in camp def

[drifting hemlock]

Damn he’s the goat of goats?

[drifting hemlock]

No actually, since you have A LOT of wokes AND elthara

(Totally not me being jealous)

[river shuttle]

i heard elthara ? 😛

[dark musk]

if i dont build them right then they aren’t gonna be as good

[dark musk]

… I’m jealous

[river shuttle]

just pick up some whale acc

[tepid totem]

does ur begris have a good nc coll

[river shuttle]

nope

[drowsy terrace]

hey woah buddy

whats with the name

[drifting hemlock]

At least bro got 1 copy and only need to merc kaelon

[tepid totem]

does no one have begris or elth i can use in nc

[river shuttle]

ill try to get coll but i doubt ill get 5m

[quartz totem]

envydiel <3

[drifting hemlock]

Why Dont you accept anyting less than 5 ty

[quartz totem]

but this is atm what i got

[tepid totem]

cause it doesnt do well

[drifting hemlock]

[river shuttle]

better than nothing ig

[dark musk]

wdym?

[quartz totem]

i am at chapter 26 and still never got any mythic gear from the afk chest

[drifting hemlock]

Meta strat for midgame: pick up an account from a quitter

[drifting hemlock]

You get tons of them from temporal rift

[dark musk]

also this is gonna be my first time doing the Golden Frontier event I heard it’s kinda bad but idk

[drifting hemlock]

Oh you mean gears?

[quartz totem]

imo starting from the start is more fun

[drifting hemlock]

uhh skill issue ig

[dark musk]

oh, idk if that would work but okay

[drifting hemlock]

only bad? You havent heard enough

[river shuttle]

thats what i did

[dark musk]

u got an account?

[drifting hemlock]

It’s like Rise of Kingdoms but way worse

[drowsy terrace]

yea my old one

and i got his

[dark musk]

yeah maybe I shouldn’t play it

[river shuttle]

[drowsy terrace]

we basically swapped accs

[dark adder]

I agree! (is forever stuck replaying early game :p)

[drifting hemlock]

Uh no you still should play it

[dark musk]

Aww I wish I could play on it

[dark adder]

traumatic flashbacks ensues

[drifting hemlock]

Cuz it gives solid resources

[drowsy terrace]

no you dont

[river shuttle]

we both enjoy the game more now 🙂

[drowsy terrace]

it isnt very easy to keep it up if youre new to the game

[dark musk]

so it’s good but not good for new players

[quartz totem]

i just do random stuff with my account

[nocturne oak]

ew pilotting

[drowsy terrace]

correct

[dark musk]

okay thats Noted

[drowsy terrace]

cause it would be like looking at heiroglyphics, and you cant read it just yet

[river shuttle]

well im new too and now im the one helping most people crawling through the early game

[drifting hemlock]

Goated yet no macro routine

[drowsy terrace]

gotta factor things like pets, colls, heroes, and hero investments, and that sort of stuff

your rgms might be easier technically but to improve on them is a mission

[quartz totem]

pffft i need 1 more ivan to acsend himd

[river shuttle]

i didnt make macro routine i made a guide on how to play multiple accs at once and i finished it im waiting for jd feedback, same with my invest guide he just didnt add it yet

[drifting hemlock]

oh ok ig that’s good enough, so thats why he’s not saying anything

Bro is doing god’s work out there

[river shuttle]

mhm still waiting for lvl 40 lmaoo

[drifting hemlock]

Ewwww who invented this

[drowsy terrace]

[river shuttle]

[drifting hemlock]

Lwk should not stay up till 3am today cuz got school tmrw

Or should I? :vsauce:

[round root]

havnt played in a while, just got rem, is rem and ivan still the early game carry, or is there something better now

[tepid totem]

restart

[round root]

yeah i did, i just got rem yesterday

[tepid totem]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[drifting hemlock]

Diamond in the rough

[dark musk]

Alright I’m stuck again on campaign unfortunately

let me record it real quick

[drifting hemlock]

Searching for a kaelon still in the wild is like searching for a diamond in the rough

[dark adder]

who to take?

[dark musk]

nvm

[drifting hemlock]

what you have

[drifting hemlock]

Alr bro js keep autobattling dont care abt it that much

[dark adder]

uh

okay ty!

btw is lethos any good I dont see him anywhere

[dark musk]

Ok I just don’t want to make more mistakes that I already have done

[dark adder]

fair I think my account is very young ;-;

[drifting hemlock]

The only real mistake you can have doing campaign is not using treat

[dark adder]

I got ivan to 1* should I take him to e30 immediately?

[dark musk]

true

[dark adder]

what is treat

[real creek]

Yes

[drifting hemlock]

Little ghost thingy

[dark adder]

oh is he a beast?

[drifting hemlock]

Yea

[dark adder]

ohhhh what makes him good

[drifting hemlock]

40% atk increase teamwide

[dark adder]

jesus

should I use a spice to get one copy of him or just pray for good luck

[drifting hemlock]

If you are comfortably doing campaign then dont
If you are super duper hardstuck and nothing else works then you may do

[dark adder]

I think because I have elthara sooner or later Ill be able to push a couple of stages ig Ill hold on to them for now then

[drifting hemlock]

R u sure abt that? I said that same thing to myself with elthara and she never came (unrelated to the spice choice)

[dark adder]

uh

[dark musk]

What is the best artifact to run for Elthara?

[drifting hemlock]

lull ig im not sure since I NEVER GOT HER

[dark adder]

I see people in campaign using that lightning cloud one

[drifting hemlock]

That’s lull

[dark musk]

I don’t even think I have that unlocked 💀

[blazing jasper]

what is the best team for soren?
and wrizz?

[dark musk]

oh wait it’s in the south zone thats why

[drifting hemlock]

ABelinda

[river shuttle]

early game envy + whateer supports you have

[warm steppe]

After getting the fodder heroes to 160, does it matter who i replace them with at the resonating crystal? Or just ascended heroes i have enough copies of?

[last burrow]

hello, can i build talene for the meantime to progress? 🙏🏻

[drifting hemlock]

Nah use ivan if you have him

Also dont make L hero only fodder except ivan randle

[dark musk]

Is this good?

[last burrow]

oki, was about to make misha L! haha thanks! dont have ivan still though

[drifting hemlock]

It’s whatever but u got skill lvl so keep it

[last burrow]

may i ask for the meantime, im in chapter 12, which 5 heroes i can initially build to progress?

[drifting hemlock]

Tough luck

[dark musk]

Ok

[drifting hemlock]

Bronn Randle Saitama with Aethus Lyca Mira if you have them

What is ATelene SP again

Oh it’s whatever

[dark musk]

Can someone look at this real quick? I’m stuck again

[drifting hemlock]

At least she’s nice to have for that fat time emblem bonus

[last burrow]

i dont have aethus lyca mira

this is what i have rn 😞

[drifting hemlock]

Switch lyca out for nara also i said yeet mira and lyca out why u still put them there use AThoran bro

[dark musk]

It was working for a while my bad

[last burrow]

i only have bronn randle saitama, dunno which 2 i should add

[drifting hemlock]

Bronn Randle Saitama it is with ATalene for SP

[last burrow]

sorry, 2 days old knowledge, whats ATalene?

[dark adder]

u could probs autobattle it and u can rng that stage

[dark adder]

yellow border phoenix lady

[river shuttle]

hahahaha lmaooo

[last burrow]

thanks!

i like that term haha makes it easier for me ngl 😭

[dark adder]

[last burrow]

so i have now is bronn randle saitama and talene, whos the other one?

[drifting hemlock]

Gorren or Alvida, I prefer Gorren

[trail birch]

Should I start over? I'm stuck on chapter 7

[dark adder]

misha heals might be good idk

[blazing jasper]

i have alot of good characters but i just dont know whats best u get me? how abt late game?

[dark adder]

I think bronn carry + random graveborns can push a bit

[drifting hemlock]

Just merc a powerhouse and then let them blaze thru the boss

[trail birch]

The only one who's carrying at the moment is Mira

[river shuttle]

late game you do 1 max dmmg run and sweep it ewvery time lol

[old root]

Is Skylan or elthara better right now?

[drifting hemlock]

Yeah why do u need good comp when whatever u toss in there can kill the boss

[blazing jasper]

ik but i meant what character envy?

[last burrow]

like this?

[dark adder]

how much yap must I yap to get a coloured border ;-;

[drifting hemlock]

Talene backline gorren frontline

[dark adder]

I also like to put bronn behind saitama, it sorta helps him stay alive I think

[last burrow]

ok ok thanks!!! yey

[drifting hemlock]

Yes also bcuz saitama yeets the three enemies infront of him early on

[dark adder]

yessirrr

FAH TWO TEAMS CHAPTER 31 NOOOO

[drifting hemlock]

Saitama do wonders when he is A* 1 star man

[drifting hemlock]

Lol if you had elthara you wouldnt even bat an eye to the two team roadblock

[last burrow]

woah

[drifting hemlock]

You go ahead till c33

[dark adder]

I dont have rem yet 💔

[dark adder]

nice

[drifting hemlock]

Bronn died too soon but thats good enough

[drifting hemlock]

No one garrison rem rn cuz of saitama

I got off with first team by tryKnox

[last burrow]

thanks so much! i wasnt able to clear it since 2 hrs ago i was so stressed out haha lol

[dark adder]

my knox is only e1 😭

[last burrow]

so, i dont L them except only for randle and ivan right?

[dark adder]

my randles not ascended either I dont have fodder

[drifting hemlock]

cooked deep fried

[drifting hemlock]

Do Temporal Rift tower and PoT

Thrilling Voyages too

Its resetting attempts in 6 hours

[dark adder]

Ive alr done all thrilling voyage attemps this week 💔
just finished pushing tmeporal rift and PoT's are slowly getting down theyre such a drag

[drifting hemlock]

Yes

[last burrow]

thank you so much! if ill get ivan someday, who should i replace it with? bronn?

[drifting hemlock]

Ideally you should get 3 voyages done with one more on stage 12

[drifting hemlock]

Talene

[last burrow]

oh, so she is bad bad

[drifting hemlock]

Yeah i mean BAD BAD

[last burrow]

i thought she's good T-T i kinda like her design

[dark adder]

SAME VRO

[last burrow]

LMAO

[drifting hemlock]

yeah sadly, somehow the unawk version is better???

[dark adder]

I love her design but shes ass 💔

is lethos any good

[drifting hemlock]

Only graveborn tower

Outside no use

[dark adder]

unfortunate

[drifting hemlock]

Lilith finally released an actually mid gb hero

[dark adder]

Im very tempted to use him as fodder so I can get randle to ascended

that or I spend 300 gems to change the faction summons to gb

[drifting hemlock]

Latter

[dark adder]

[drifting hemlock]

Obviously vro what r u thinking

[dark musk]

Finally

[dark adder]

pushing tower rn hopefully I get some shards

[drifting hemlock]

Ideally 360 - 370

[dark adder]

only floor 323 rn 💔

[drifting hemlock]

beyond that you’re highly likely powercapped

[drifting hemlock]

Keep trying bro

[dark adder]

auto battle such a lifesaver ong

I can like doomscroll and push at the same time peak degeneracy

[drifting hemlock]

The attention span deterioration

[dark adder]

also Ive had my mentor for like just over a week and I asked him to assign the labyrinth quest but hes just not seen my messages and assigned me tasks like ascend 3 heroes do I eject him o-o

[drifting hemlock]

You talk with your mentor??? I’ve never even done that

[drifting hemlock]

Be a mentor yourself

[dark adder]

well I tried to dm him in game and evidently nothings happened 😭

[charred jetty]

Wait is this a bug

I’m pretty sure I claimed the 7500…

[dark adder]

free 7500 crystals?

[drifting hemlock]

Lemme check my mail rw

[dark adder]

FAH IM POWERCAPPED IN TOWER TS SO BUNS

[charred jetty]

Well I don’t have chest anymore, so I can’t use them anyways

[drifting hemlock]

Aint got it

[charred jetty]

Maybe I just forgot

What the heck

[drifting hemlock]

Yeah maybe

[drifting hemlock]

What u expecting fam?

[dark adder]

not to be powercapped so I can keep pushing ;-;

[drifting hemlock]

I warned u

[jagged edge]

Anybody bored enough to help me with my TS formations? Not sure which heroes to pair and what pets to use

[drifting hemlock]

Maybe I will if i wasnt half dead and needs to go to school tmrw

[dark adder]

u go to school still? how young r u

[olive jewel]

good afternoon chat

[drifting hemlock]

College actually first year

[dark adder]

is college like uni

[drifting hemlock]

Ye

[dark adder]

oh damn so am I but I start in like a month

[last burrow]

is 23 yrs old too old for this game? ;-; im just hooked up playing this one while working haha

[drifting hemlock]

Zamn gl fam

[drifting hemlock]

Too young actually you need some real balls to play this game young

[jagged edge]

These are my heroes and pets

[drifting hemlock]

it is gonna takes years off your life

[dark adder]

YIPPEE RANDLES ASCENDED ALSO 1*
do I engrave hjim as well

[last burrow]

yeah right... i think i started way too late, i was playing idle heroes before though

[river shuttle]

pepe_yes

[olive jewel]

There are a bunch of babies that play this game but there are aa bunch of olds like me don't worry

[dark adder]

1

[last burrow]

thats great!

[olive jewel]

(23 makes you one of the babies btw)

[last burrow]

since i wfh, i was too bored and find for good rng games then i found this

i like it very much, the design and just the simplicity of it

[dark adder]

I started afk so many years ago but it was so on and off 💔

[drifting hemlock]

Im too lazy rn to cater real help so heres a premade guide

[dark adder]

hmmm now what to do when I have literally none of them

[solar fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[olive jewel]

we catposting?

[river shuttle]

pray

[olive jewel]

is it catposting time

[drifting hemlock]

Bro u r at 31 campaign wdy expect

Let your shi marinade for some time

[dark adder]

heh

[drifting hemlock]

Minimum 2 - 3 weeks more

[dark adder]

week old acc 💔

wittery a baby

[drifting hemlock]

Aint no way vro (aint that bad)

[trail birch]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[river shuttle]

make teams for me

[dark adder]

mr komik I got elthara :DDDDDDDDDDDD

now how does one build 2 teams for campaign

[drifting hemlock]

Aint no way vro you’re like my fugging ancestor

[drifting hemlock]

Get out.

[tepid totem]

wow

[dark adder]

ANCESTOR BROS 2 FEET IN THE GRAVE 6 FEET UNDER

[drifting hemlock]

I don’t. Want to. See you. Again. Pheenix

[river shuttle]

6 feet under banger song

[jagged edge]

Yeah i saw these guides on reddit too but they arent really helpful when i dont have 70% of the heroes

[drifting hemlock]

When u understand the functionality of a hero u can make subtitute

[dark adder]

pov u have nothing to substitute into that role

[river shuttle]

fym

[jagged edge]

True but if i understood the funcionalities of heroes i would make the teams myself

[drifting hemlock]

I mean you’re like the goat that inspires me to exist in this community

[dark adder]

how was living with the dinosaurs o great and ancient one

[river shuttle]

bro im not even born 19xx

[dark adder]

oh damn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798143230192648213/1284263030950985789/holy_crackers-1.gif

[tepid totem]

[river shuttle]

big cap

[drifting hemlock]

[river shuttle]

hat is our idol#

[dark adder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1094851182377320528/1168255254010265712/ezgif.com-gif-maker_12.gif

[hardy orbit]

=campaign

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618027271906918400/1320930606573555752/newgitgudguidev2.png?ex=689b45be&is=6899f43e&hm=2a04a9aec55d8216c661a2499dccc95d8e112a970bbca008f0c9e34918e7a0bc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1516&height=1168

[dark musk]

Finally I best chapter 28

[cobalt vale]

Do i get randle to mythic(no extra copies) OR ivan to mythic+ with 1 extra copy

[last burrow]

who should i get here sirs?

or here?

[drifting hemlock]

Ivan

[last burrow]

is he there?

[drifting hemlock]

You dont have him right? Get him, kick the bird out

[last burrow]

OH HE IS THERE!!!!! OMG

it's him right?? OMGG time to kick the bird out indeed T-T

[hardy orbit]

anyone know how to get ivan?

[last burrow]

are these good? if yes, can i use one of them to ivan or randle?

[drifting hemlock]

Go to forest do goulish gallery run with tasi flight collection

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use ivan + randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. Repeat steps 8-10 until they hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[last burrow]

I see.. thank youuu!!!!!!!!! omg you dont know how big of a help you are!

[drifting hemlock]

No problem my guy, have fun with the game

[last burrow]

i am now! thanks to you!

[tight flax]

i started today and was wondering what was worth upgrading

[drifting hemlock]

Why is so many new players getting talene? So unfortunate, anyways restart with new account cuz you didnt follow guide =guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[hollow parcel]

Hello @drifting hemlock,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[tight flax]

who do i wanna get

[last burrow]

i dont quite get the number 4 @drifting hemlock T-T

[drifting hemlock]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[drifting hemlock]

Follow the wishlist, your main priority will be randle + ivan

[last burrow]

i cant grasp it all at once right now im working T-T if only i could have a simpler terms HAHHAA

[drifting hemlock]

I mean its quite the hassle

[last burrow]

yeps! so,, based on my screenshots, i have to go for another run right? and i cant get them all in one run?

[drifting hemlock]

Just do the butterfly wings

[last burrow]

alright alright

then do this one? for ivan?

[dark musk]

I’m not sir if they are good but my luck has been pretty good today

[drifting hemlock]

Ye however not rlly needed rn u can get by with atk fatk

[last burrow]

alright gotchu thank you!!

[drifting hemlock]

Used to be good, with high investment alongside tasi can make a team in midgame

[dark musk]

oh okay

[river shuttle]

atk not is

[drifting hemlock]

Shall I sleep my goat

[river shuttle]

never

[hardy orbit]

is itworth to wait for server 1188?

[olive jewel]

good at one copy for some stuff

[drifting hemlock]

[hardy orbit]

i want the best beginner free to play start

[drifting hemlock]

Now or never then no need to wait for 1188

[dark musk]

fair, are they good for like pvp or no?

[olive jewel]

no

[drifting hemlock]

lilith is going to make illusory journey rgm btw no doubt

[last burrow]

what for ivan and randle?

[drifting hemlock]

Ye

[olive jewel]

They dont have much incentive to make a mode with no p2w an RGM

[drifting hemlock]

Im js copin

[last burrow]

wait im confused haha, atk and fatk both for ivan and randle?

[drifting hemlock]

Yes

[trail birch]

What should I do? I'm stuck on chapter 7

[last burrow]

so i can use these both to ivan and randle right?

[drifting hemlock]

Yes

[tight flax]

This is what I got on a new account from all the code scrolls

[modest halo]

i just got to stage 300 what teams do i use in Illuson Journey?

[dark musk]

Wait what happens when you hit chapter 31? I might unlock it today

[last burrow]

what if i dont get thee atk and fatk? should I just rerun?

[olive jewel]

two team campaign stages start

[torn lance]

What to focus on lol i just returned today on this game

[olive jewel]

=returning

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1098437930919395388

[crystal yarrow]

This aint worth carding for misha right

[shell quest]

Keep it but don’t use a card.

[crystal yarrow]

Alr

[river shuttle]

theres nothing to save

[charred jetty]

Id only card 2.3M + colls

Usually 3M plus is better, but def cards are kinda meh

You get a lot of them, and can’t really use them

[old root]

Is selene worth to get?

[charred jetty]

Depends on your roster

Objectively yes, but obviously order matters

[small bane]

Hello on what I should be using gems my acc is New and i saved UP like 12k gems

[crystal yarrow]

Alr

[crystal yarrow]

Yh im just lwky tryna build a misha e
Flight

Guys what is alvidas investment

[last burrow]

you still awake @drifting hemlock ? i dont know what other attributes i should get on these ones, i already input atk and fatk

[small bane]

Can someone tell me Best way to spend it

[olive jewel]

=diamonds

[gilded sapphire]

Diamond Priorities:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1139293511695482972

[olive jewel]

mostly pull heroes

[last burrow]

@olive jewel hi sir, can you help me with this one if youre not busy? 🙏

[river shuttle]

put everything on red

[small bane]

What does mean 4f

[small bane]

Then we are gambling alr

[olive jewel]

just put high rarity stuff it really doesn't matter, you will not use that for long

[olive jewel]

4 faction. Lightbearer, Graveborn, Wilder, Mauler

[last burrow]

I see...

why not for long though if i may ask hehe

[small bane]

So if i have those i shouldnt summon anymore why is that how do i get more copies then

[river shuttle]

bcs its bad

[small bane]

Ah wait i need aecend them uh

I dont understand guide stuff meh

[last burrow]

I see, so theres still coming in the long run in ghoulish still?

[small bane]

Wait do i can send pic here? Like I wanted to ask what heroes to use and stuff

[river shuttle]

try

[timber vortex]

Can I get some box advice?

[olive jewel]

are you taking heroes off your wishlist when they hit 1 star?

[small bane]

Anything here good?

[olive jewel]

=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1429176528410906704/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=6963eddd&is=69629c5d&hm=d8c32af6b77e0b1fbddf7ca3abd6665f77ed8a00fb752cbd9bdd825ac231ff41&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1459649707340202015/image.png?ex=69640c39&is=6962bab9&hm=cac3ad2ec41575096f4ea6e2b38dd242b65ab04aaaab6c1666214d6b21cdba5a

[timber vortex]

Yes I am

[olive jewel]

k, just asked because it felt like you had a lot of excess stars

[timber vortex]

When I started, Randle and Ivan I just kept getting from the faction scrolls

[olive jewel]

idk what exact kind of advice you want

[timber vortex]

But they aren’t on my wishlist anymore I removed them lol

[timber vortex]

Idk tbh lmao maybe I can get some advice on collections?

[olive jewel]

sure

[dark musk]

Alright I just got to chapter 31

[dark musk]

is there a guide for it?

[olive jewel]

=earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1444410826961322146/8v0Ga9h.png?ex=692c9be9&is=692b4a69&hm=16420762014c1675ddadad22154602562ffb94068ae6bb51648f888bebdb0421&

[river shuttle]

gotta update it

[dark musk]

oh okay 👍

[river shuttle]

can still use it

[charred jetty]

biggest change is L elthara, possibly with alvida in a cover stall setup

[timber vortex]

I’m kind of just not going full in on any colls until I get the level up card after 36 legendary usages

[charred jetty]

pony 6 and seal 6 were too bad to warrant having a stall for most people this early, but Elthara probably changes that

which makes for an even cheaper OP team in the early game multicomp setup

potentially delaying dim carry type setups until 4 teams

[dark musk]

Yeah I’m already confused 😭

[charred jetty]

@river shuttle we also have to specify that Knox has to be on the frontline for the knox stall team

[river shuttle]

thats what i send you mr mod

[charred jetty]

oh

[olive jewel]

idk then. Just try to look at guides and when you see a hole in what you have vs what you need note it down

[dark musk]

does it matter what GB hero’s I use? Am I just using them for the faction boost?

[river shuttle]

not rly maybe some that dont die in first sec

[coarse ingot]

Is misha worth being my first ascended wilder?

[crystal yarrow]

guys what is alvidas min investment

[olive jewel]

she's certainly the best overall wilder

[olive jewel]

209

[dark musk]

well I already got the first team figured out but now I need to think of a good second team

[timber vortex]

Is +3 trader’s vault worth?

[crystal yarrow]

alr ty

[wraith fjord]

@sterile atlas Askri cr coll

[coarse ingot]

Oh okay Ty!

Does she need a lot of investment tho

[wraith fjord]

Thank you

[olive jewel]

yes it is the best NC coll in the game

[olive jewel]

no, she wants a coll with lots of DEF and she CAN use a lot of invest if you can afford it

but she doesnt hard require anything really

[thick fog]

Hmm thinking I might need to delete and re download. Games breaking on me, can't access kings tower, dragon temple nor the dimsional sign in. Every character is showing up as a question mark. Any ideas here

[olive jewel]

that sounds like a reinstall to me yeah

maybe try clearing cache first

[dark musk]

yeah Ngl I’m gonna be stuck on chapter 31 for a while

[thick fog]

Aye I'll go for that

[dark musk]

especially because I have to make two teams now, I think I need to try and get more heros

[olive jewel]

thats common

[dark musk]

I just need to learn more about it and get more hero’s because to be honest I don’t think I have enough knowledge, experience and enough hero’s to be able to move on

welp idk what to do now

[shell quest]

You can always merc a hero to help push in camp

[olive jewel]

you can start to pivot a bit more into caring about other modes now

Treasure 'Cramble specifically

[dark musk]

ehh I mean probably but I’m gonna have to learn either way I can’t get comfortable with always doing that

[dark musk]

that’s true

[timber vortex]

=furn

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994911949525614644

[olive jewel]

sitting here with ded chat waiting for IJ RNG

[floral escarp]

is there any early game wishing shrine recommendations? I could wait longer but i want to finish hoppity horrors event fully

[olive jewel]

Do not pull is the recommendation

[dark musk]

Yeah I’ve already made teams for that mode, is there any other events I should focus on?

[olive jewel]

focus on more general progress. Getting new heroes, getting investments in heroes. And make sure you do temporal rift and stuff

[river shuttle]

[dark musk]

Speaking of i dont even understand the temporal rift is there a guide for that or do u have any tips?

[olive jewel]

uh I dont know how it works but there is a trick to getting a good beckon early by repeatedly restarting runs for it

[upper hinge]

how good is atasi

[olive jewel]

a good beckon can take you farther than you can alone in an early game account

[olive jewel]

awakened tasi?

[upper hinge]

yes

[olive jewel]

the hero that does not yet exist?

[upper hinge]

yes

[olive jewel]

She does not yet exist is the answer

[upper hinge]

oh

[dark musk]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1423503305476149308/image0.jpg?ex=68e08c43&is=68df3ac3&hm=80cbdf44255b205632a05735ac169ba19f38198b6d4ab3ce447c068f0a1b4726&

[upper hinge]

how do yall restart to floor 1 in temporal rift it wont lemme scroll

[wraith fjord]

@muted anchor randle pls

[neon sparrow]

[digital granite]

How good is Atasi?

[olive jewel]

bud

[digital granite]

[olive jewel]

your first message here this year

[digital granite]

True probably not the last

[thick fog]

After a small scare alls back to normal

[warm steppe]

Does it matter which heroes replace the fodder heroes at the resonating crystal once they are at 160?

[ebon seal]

Once I have all 5 of my fodder to 160 do I rewind them? For the mats back?

[olive jewel]

no

when you use them as fodder it will give the stuff back

[warm steppe]

does it matter which heroes replace them?

[olive jewel]

no, just your highest ascension ones

[ebon seal]

Thanks very much

[warm steppe]

Alright thanks, so just the ones i get a lot of copies of, as long as they are not fodder

[ebon seal]

Should I wait till I get the 10 copies or the first I can get past to 160 aka mythic

[olive jewel]

wait for ten

I would say Randle if you have 6-7 go ahead and make him M

[olive jewel]

[dark musk]

Is she good?

[olive jewel]

yes

[ebon linden]

Excuse I did shit with my account, is there a way to catch it?

[olive jewel]

thats companions, not the same game as this channel

[ebon linden]

Oh okay and I start another account on the classic but I'm the early game

[wraith fjord]

New woke ??

[olive jewel]

if you start on classic server =guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[olive jewel]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use ivan + randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. Repeat steps 8-10 until they hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[dark musk]

Should I use her?

[burnt nacelle]

Hey folks, i would like to know how should i start invest in dragons heroes. I can clear lv 1/2/3 in dragon campaign. And im wondering if i should invest in the two dracolite in shop (Nyla or Pulina) in order to clear more stage and get more ressources, or should i just keep lv 3 rewards and buy rolls and cards and just pull when i can ? 🙂

[ebon linden]

i dont understand nort zone ? GG? blue totems??

[olive jewel]

nyla and pulina are not good

[ebon linden]

sorry im a beginner

[olive jewel]

Dragons are grossly expensive you basically need to be done stargazing to do them

[burnt nacelle]

ohhh okay, and there is a lot to stargaze actually, so not the great time haha
Is Lan still the top prio tho ?

[digital granite]

I was joking

[olive jewel]

get one copy of Elthara first

[ebon linden]

why is the blue totems and the northzone?

[olive jewel]

Go to the Ghoulish Gallery and check it out yourself its a lot easier to understand

[burnt nacelle]

Ty !!

[olive jewel]

Then save around 750 Dragon Insignia before ever getting highborns

and for dragolites just wait

[ebon linden]

the blue totems is like the blue batons ?

[burnt nacelle]

Alriiight

[ebon linden]

ok i know what is the blue totem but what y do whits ??

[river shuttle]

bro open the mode, try understanding and if then more questions come ask, dont ask every question before even trying to take a look

[ebon linden]

i look i understand i little bitr but goulish is very difficult to understand

[river shuttle]

its fairly simple

[tight flax]

should i ascend ascended tier heros as soon as i have enough cards or wait and do it all at once

[olive jewel]

when you have 8 copies

[dire granite]

Who should I garrison first, Shuna or Rem?

[olive jewel]

dont do either yet, save for the dimensional exchange

[dire granite]

Yeah good point, thanks

[flint granite]

Is tatsumaki used in any nc or cr formation yet ?

[olive jewel]

I have not seen much use for her yet

but that does not mean she should be skipped

[upper acorn]

build her just for the sake of it

hi jacky :dopey:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1390698468011540532.gif?size=1024

[olive jewel]

helo euphy

[upper acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1302937509453631580.gif?size=1024

[dark musk]

yeah I’m still so confused with this two team campaign thing

[charred jetty]

You need to form 2 teams and win each team

It’s a bit of a mindset shift from single comp, since you need to juggle your good heroes between comps

[dark musk]

No I mean like my heros, obviously I don’t have any knowledge

[charred jetty]

But our =earlymulti guide should help you out

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/1444410826961322146/8v0Ga9h.png?ex=692c9be9&is=692b4a69&hm=16420762014c1675ddadad22154602562ffb94068ae6bb51648f888bebdb0421&

[charred jetty]

Did you manage to pull elthara?

If not you should try to get 1 copy of her

[dark musk]

Yeah

[charred jetty]

Oh nice

Gzgz

Puts you in like top 10% just by having her

[charred jetty]

Ok so team 2 instead of relying on rem shuna, you want to do stall + elthara

[dark musk]

No way

[dark musk]

Wait so for team 2 REM, shuna, elthara, etc

[ebon linden]

Guys I went up to e+ my alvida to continue the campaign I was blocked but I still amto continue the campaign I was blocked but I still am Blocked I did something stupid?

[dark musk]

Alright I just got shuna

[drifting hemlock]

Uhhh why did you garrison Shuna?

[river shuttle]

Throwing his progress away ig

[dire granite]

Does anyone know the guide which has wishlist options beyond the staples?

[dark musk]

I heard she was good, also I need more heros especially because now I have to set two teams in campaign

[river shuttle]

=wishlist ?

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[dark musk]

Trust me I have lots of resources

[dire granite]

Yeah thank you

[river shuttle]

Enough for both dims?

[dark musk]

Yep

[river shuttle]

I doubt you have 320k lab coins

[dark musk]

If you think I’m poor then your wrong respectfully

[river shuttle]

Alr we spend 80€ now for something we could get for free

Makes sense to me

[dark musk]

that’s not exactly what I meant 😂

But no seriously though I thought shuna was good

[river shuttle]

She is

But everyone asks so manny questions, wouldnt be wondered if someone would ask me to tell them they’re address because they forgot but expensive resource investment is not worth asking?

[dark musk]

Isn’t that the point of this channel to ask questions?

also I’ve been reading over guides, that’s why I decided to invest in rem and shuna

it was recommended to prioritize them

[drifting hemlock]

No it was recommended to save for dim exchange first

[dark musk]

…

yeah I might just restart I’m actually stupid

[drifting hemlock]

But you have enough for both Tatsu and Saitama, right?

[dark musk]

I mean I can just get one right now

yeah I might just restart

[drifting hemlock]

Max out all the chests and show me

[dark musk]

ok

[charred jetty]

don't need rem anymore

[dark musk]

….

[charred jetty]

I think you dont need rem until like ch34 now

[dark musk]

welp ggs

[drifting hemlock]

Yeah since Elthara is a whole team now, Knox 1 team, Randle gb 1 team

[dark musk]

@drifting hemlock ^

[drifting hemlock]

You used all the chests you get from signin?

[dark musk]

Yep….

[river shuttle]

If you restart you might get none of the dims

[dark musk]

I mean just look at all the mistakes I’m making right now

[olive jewel]

You got any advice for this?

just not working

[river shuttle]

Just get trhough it and if it feels like you could play properly try again, you’re just gonna make the same mistakes again

[dark musk]

exactly I don’t what that to keep happening

[drifting hemlock]

Next time js ask before doing anything related to resources (fodders, dim exchange, etc.)

[river shuttle]

Nooo

[drifting hemlock]

[river shuttle]

Making mistakes is the way to learn stuff

If you need other players to play for you might aswell pay me 2000€ per month and ill bring an account with ur name top 10 in newest region

[dark musk]

I wish

[drifting hemlock]

Fr but umm making way too many mistakes can feel quite terrible

[river shuttle]

People play valorant in bronze for years

[drifting hemlock]

Yh but it doesnt quite make you feel terrible as much as making mistakes in a gacha game

[river shuttle]

People shouldnt care as much about games anyways

Everyone is taking this shit way to serios

[dark musk]

fair point

[charred jetty]

do you have a lot of sig selectors left over?

[olive jewel]

like 6

[charred jetty]

I think I just macroed that exact setup until it passed, but with 5 extra selectors and heopfully better rng you should be able to reduce that a lot

hmm the main problem is going to be treznor

[olive jewel]

ive RNGed it a lot

[charred jetty]

treznor jumps your daemia right now right?

consdiering she is 409, and everyone else is like 000

[olive jewel]

ye

[charred jetty]

in that comp only 2 heroes can bait treznor: talene or salaki

I think it's lowkey better to drop avlida for salaki and get his furn and +2

then make him the highest atk

[olive jewel]

I have salami invested

[charred jetty]

but if you don't want to do that / can't do that, I'd just drop gear from daemia and stack talene stats until she baits treznor

[charred jetty]

oh cool

use him instead of alvida

alvida is like pretty bad in IJ because of the +3 bug imo

[olive jewel]

I will give him better gear too

[charred jetty]

salaki +3 with furn is super goated

ye make sure he has the main atk gear

[olive jewel]

ok Trez is jumping him

[charred jetty]

like legit strip daemia, gear him up, and gear daemia with what's left

nice

and put him frontline

[olive jewel]

will let it RNG

[charred jetty]

with +2 he has like a 3 cheatdeath, so it's gonna be hard for them to kill him

the other one that is really good is wukong +1/+2

lowkey very clutch

but salaki +3 with furn should be enough to make that the most stable comp you have from the least

he's actually really strong at low deficit

[ancient flume]

I am stuck for a few days already at 31-4. My first team is my graveborns and that's fine. But I can't come close to winning with rem

[charred jetty]

alternatively could try replacing alvida with desira

though timing out might become an issue

[charred jetty]

have you tried pulling for elthara yet

if not please do

oh shoot you got lan

that is slightly concerning

[ancient flume]

Yeah. Old wishlist told me to pull for her

[charred jetty]

yikes

it's okay, you'll get more DIs

make sure to go for 1 copy of Elthara

also the old wishlist did say to never pull HB before 750 cards

but ig you did anyways

oh well it's okay, just an order thing

[drifting hemlock]

Yeah but now his progress is gonna tank for like a few days

[charred jetty]

you'll probably still actually build Lan first after 1 copy of elthara

[charred jetty]

it's more like a few weeks sadly

but I mean we did before elthara, he can too lol

our guides were made for before elthara

[ancient flume]

HB is the dragon pulls?

[drifting hemlock]

Yh but it’s updated now

[charred jetty]

no the dragon insignia pull

[charred jetty]

ye

I pushed for the change, it got approved

[upper yarrow]

?

[charred jetty]

but yeah it's also why we say to not pull wokes and HB before you can get them A

it's for this exact reason

in case something new comes out that you really need to get

[ancient flume]

Ah it's in the red there

[drifting hemlock]

How is benno’s new guides

[olive jewel]

passed that comp

[charred jetty]

I need to rework the early multi one

[charred jetty]

salami OP

[ancient flume]

Wokes I only pulled until I got 1 shemira, the others 2 are from normal pulla

[drifting hemlock]

Yh that is gonna give ppl more sense of direction

[charred jetty]

still waiting for the investment prio one for engravings and +40s

[charred jetty]

I need a volunteer to help me test

[shy crescent]

Large?

[charred jetty]

idk to what extent the L elthara vida stall comp works

[olive jewel]

what are the stats for each one?

[charred jetty]

which will probably look like I push campaign for the volunteer until like ch38

[ancient flume]

So thats the only thing how I can progress now ?:D

[charred jetty]

or ch40

[torpid seal]

Alvida elthara still works ch40

[charred jetty]

ok so usually the way to progress is to garrison rem

[olive jewel]

those dont tell you the dupe stat, needs to be from the portraits menu

[drifting hemlock]

I can ask my friends on 1187 to provide data

[charred jetty]

but the problem with that is there is a crossover going on right now

so there's not a lot of resources to spare to garrison heroes

[drifting hemlock]

But WZZ said it works till C40 so

[charred jetty]

so I want people to be able to skip rem if possible

[drifting hemlock]

Idk it’s ending pretty soon

[charred jetty]

hmm it's not that I doubt it works to ch40

[hexed kayak]

so i got this guy to lv 6 for free basically do i keep pulling for him or its not worth it

[charred jetty]

I tested L elthara, works until like ch66 easily (yeah she's that op lol)

[shy crescent]

This?

[charred jetty]

the problem is the pathing to the later chapters

[olive jewel]

[charred jetty]

once you have a big roster going with tons of supports and stabilizers, campaign becomes pretty easy

but the challenge is getting there

[shy crescent]

Large, small, hanging

[charred jetty]

the pathing during ch31-38 is very brutal because you are suddenly faced with making a bunch of teams when you don't have anything built

that is the hardest part of campaign that I have to test

[torpid seal]

What’s the issue rn with pulling a copy of her?

[ancient flume]

Ok I Spend 20€ and got her 😄 How do I built a team with her?

[torpid seal]

Oh I see

[olive jewel]

small then large then hanging. He has probably the best dupes in the game

[drifting hemlock]

I do have an example of a good team comp

[olive jewel]

I would slow build 36f on him

[charred jetty]

well I didn't mean to suggest... ok well it's good that you have her lol

[shy crescent]

Thanks!

[charred jetty]

you are ch31 rn right?

can you show me your roster

[ancient flume]

Every faction?

[olive jewel]

the first two are very close imo. since crit is good with blade coll

[charred jetty]

uh where is elthara

[charred jetty]

just top sorted by power is fine

[drifting hemlock]

This is without elthara i mean u can subtitute her in easily one of the teams

[charred jetty]

unless you have like 30 A heroes in ch31 for some reaosn lol

[ancient flume]

@charred jetty

[charred jetty]

hmm well the idea is with elthara, we can drop one of the less stable more expensive teams and completely scatter and reform the multi comp progression

I would have to do some testing myself though

like not "oh elthara does more damage, let's replace simona or whatever"

it's more like a complete refactor of the 5 comps and the order to build each one

[drifting hemlock]

Yes, and earlygame without her can be brutal to navigate
I got by with no elthara with Knox M+ and Saitama rent 1 star but its not viable

[torpid seal]

Before elthara, I would run Randle solo with L ashem, Ivan mira, rem, M knox

[charred jetty]

there is a specific comp I want to test, the alvida + elthara cover stall

I need to know how feasible it is at different deficits, and how easy it is to solve for people

[torpid seal]

And usually rem team struggled the most but with elthara it easily became the strongest team

[charred jetty]

some comps are very powerful, but I wouldn't recommend because it's too hard to make work if you don't have a ton of experience with the comp

e.g. thoran cheese, e.g. tasi cheese without using IC

[drifting hemlock]

Below alvida si40 the more viable is wilder stall i think

[dark musk]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599454843834451/1461972574144565414/image.png?ex=696c7f8f&is=696b2e0f&hm=0ac0b8d693c032d1b9530408ce9066f235e2e769af31a5a79d5645e506d9a1e8&

[drifting hemlock]

Gorok 1 star Aethus 1 star

[charred jetty]

they technically work, and I've used them as early as ch43, but would not recommend to newer players because how hard it is to solve some multis

[charred jetty]

yeah but in theory cover stall makes her not need the 40

if she needs the 40, it's going to be much harder to recommend her unless it's proven that she demolishes early game TS

[drifting hemlock]

You have to find someone to test it out

[charred jetty]

because 40s are so expensive, and all the meta heroes need 40

[charred jetty]

ye need to find a volunteer to let me test campaign

basically give them a free boost

[trail birch]

What should I do?

[charred jetty]

but also collecting data for making the guide

my previous apprentice helped me validate knox first over liberta

and benno helped me validate afawkes

[torpid seal]

I do have an acc that at ch30 rn if that helps

[charred jetty]

early multi used to take much longer before we found those shortcuts

[drifting hemlock]

Which team comp r u trying to test out for earlygame

[charred jetty]

and benno himself found the rem selene shuna comp, grumble found the cover stall tech

[trail birch]

Should I upgrade Mira to legendary?

[charred jetty]

specfiically alvida M20 + L elthara

the idea is cover stall alvida into immunity, then elthara weather for damage

[drifting hemlock]

I think it can be easy to find since Alvida is still top prio lightborn

[charred jetty]

but I know her weather does not scale well with deficit, so I need to test when exactly it fails, and how easy it is to pull that comp off

e.g. I know knox 209e60 solo fails at around ch39, adding lysander boosts to ch40, and adding +40 or ivan boosts to ch43ish

but then that comp fails past ch43

you simply cannot do enough damage at that deficit

so need to reform your comps into a midgame comp set

hopefully by then you'd have like ashem envy Sion etc. built out for that

if you don't it's kinda yikes

[drifting hemlock]

Yeah I think c43 is a pretty far way by then

[charred jetty]

sorry got sidetracked, let me take a look

[charred jetty]

how many copies of alvida do you have rn?

[drifting hemlock]

But he doesnt have elthara tho

[charred jetty]

apparently he just got it

[drifting hemlock]

Hold on lemme ask this guy @dark musk

[ancient flume]

4

[charred jetty]

wonderful

do you have the fodder to get her to M?

only need M

[drifting hemlock]

perfect volunteer acc?

[dark musk]

yes?

[ancient flume]

More then enough 😄

[torpid seal]

Speaking of sion, when do we start using diamond for dragolite? Or do we only use the scrolls we get to summon

[charred jetty]

good good

get alvida to M, and get her sig to +20

[drifting hemlock]

Nvm we found a volunteer acc

[charred jetty]

then for the next week I want you to run at least 2 covers (the zolrath collection)

[dark musk]

oh okay

[tight flax]

Is this a good team to be leveling

[drifting hemlock]

Ideally lvl +1?

[trail birch]

I'm not the only one getting crappy drops

[ancient flume]

Ok, did

[charred jetty]

dragolite summon timing is a pretty big controversy rn

the status quo is to ignore them until much later, like ~5A celepo, 2-3 A woke late

[tight flax]

lol idk whats good or not

[charred jetty]

imho they should be tackled a lot earlier, but it's untested and does pose a lot of problems. Need volunteer testing for that as well, but since it's a much more destructive experiment (if it turns out it doesn't work it's gonna set the volunteer back quite a lot), we've just been holding it off and waiting for one of our CS to test it

[charred jetty]

how many covers do you have rn

the zolrath collection

I don't have nitro rn so can't do the emote, but it's the red one

from northzone

[charred jetty]

follow =earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1429176528410906704/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=6963eddd&is=69629c5d&hm=d8c32af6b77e0b1fbddf7ca3abd6665f77ed8a00fb752cbd9bdd825ac231ff41&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1459649707340202015/image.png?ex=69640c39&is=6962bab9&hm=cac3ad2ec41575096f4ea6e2b38dd242b65ab04aaaab6c1666214d6b21cdba5a

[drifting hemlock]

Dis one

[charred jetty]

^

one of the things we could also suggest is just for people to launch into cover spam

[tight flax]

so i got something useable atleast

[charred jetty]

the idea to get 3 +1 covers as soon as possible for campaign

because technically you don't need any specific stat on flight

[ancient flume]

One. I still have figured out the Ghoulish Gallery tbh 😄

[charred jetty]

but for now I think flight spam week 1 is still the way to go

[charred jetty]

have you done your first 5 runs?

also yeah GG is the most complex powercreep system in the game

and it takes a while to get used to, but after you get the hang of it it gets better

[ancient flume]

I dont now tbh, I think I only did 3-4 runs

[charred jetty]

the autosweep after 5 clears also makes it much less of a headache

[ancient flume]

Ah I see. So Now just put on the cover and go for some runs?

[charred jetty]

ok can you do the rest of your runs on cover with the purple +1 if you have that totem

yep

[dark musk]

anyone got a free account I can have?

[ancient flume]

Only that?

[drifting hemlock]

Your acc is still solid bro work on it

[charred jetty]

at the start we don't need +1, we just need enough covers to so your team can have covers

[charred jetty]

and 2 blues

[dark musk]

sorry I just hate making mistakes

[charred jetty]

you need to learn the ropes first

otherwise you'll just hate the mid/late game experience

nothing will make sense, and it's not fun

base cover comes with 2 slots

so we really only need 1 more cover

obviously if you get the +1 gz that's great

but if you don't get any it's fine

[ancient flume]

Is it the + one?

[somber rose]

=wishlist

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191599620367851621/1420745309742694470/AFK_Arena_-_Tavern_Wishlist.jpg?ex=68d683ae&is=68d5322e&hm=e11dcad0d37947c073c3f7d68589935853106b8083e78c52394e1b9ec3baa930&

[charred jetty]

the purple lv

do not use your gold totems until lv3 pity

refer to =colls for that

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[dark musk]

That’s true

[drifting hemlock]

Dis one

[ancient flume]

Yeah I got one. And the blues its whatever ?

[charred jetty]

this is the one you want

ye

blues are just the free totems you slap onto your runs

[ancient flume]

Got it

[charred jetty]

they don't do much, but hey free boost I take

[ancient flume]

Anything specific I want to pick? Or just atk?

[charred jetty]

the only ones that really do much are the gold ones, and the purple lv, atk and def

[charred jetty]

for cover?

go for fatk, fdef, fero, atk, cda, PP

[ancient flume]

Yeah while I am expliring

[charred jetty]

if you don't get anything it's meh

[tight flax]

how can i get faction scrolls

[hollow parcel]

Hi @tight flax!

You can get faction scrolls by completing a chapter, peaks of time or buying in weekly and monthly deals.

[tight flax]

bet

[olive jewel]

actual Dyno help

[queen edge]

can velu work with this 😭

[drifting hemlock]

probably JD doing the work

[charred jetty]

wait what the heck

since when was dyno useful

bruh

[drifting hemlock]

Someone is behind this, i dont know who and I js cant prove it

[charred jetty]

ok

how can i get faction scrolls

[hollow parcel]

Hi @charred jetty!

You can get faction scrolls by completing a chapter, peaks of time or buying in weekly and monthly deals.

[drifting hemlock]

[charred jetty]

literally when was this a thing

[drifting hemlock]

How can I get time emblems?

[charred jetty]

how do I get scrolls

okay bro so just faction scrolls

[drifting hemlock]

What??? Why does it only work with faction scroll

[charred jetty]

need more MP bro

at least 3

if you want her comp to actually work its more like 4.6 - 5.3

but gerneal baseline at least 3, otherwise might as well run IS

[drifting hemlock]

@charred jetty btw r u gonna actively look for volunteers for dragon summons

[charred jetty]

I don't think so

again too risky

it's not like wokes or 1 copy of elthara where it's like, okay you got this first instead of the other one, big deal

[queen edge]

pain that’s what i thought

[charred jetty]

well ig afawkes instead of ashem first gaze is also pretty risky

I tested it with benno during his trial

[velvet jetty]

@charred jetty you changed your pfp

[queen edge]

might have to use miracle worker

[charred jetty]

so no risk there, and also elsewhere later on

like I know this hero is good later on, has insane potential, and has good 1v5 ability

[charred jetty]

for the velu coll ye

but you might want to wait for the new batch

[drifting hemlock]

Gaze or ToT?

[charred jetty]

it's just a the same one but themed for the valorant frame lol

[charred jetty]

ToT

it works in theory, but benno actualy went ashem first, so our CS nem is also going to test afawkes first

as a general rule our guides only contain tested strategies for higher risk investment decisions

but obviously there are newer releases and optimizations that work in theory, just haven't been tested

[drifting hemlock]

Idk why but AShemira first for 1 copy nowadays feel kinda clunky idk why

I js feel that AThoran gives more of a fight and stall

Idk abt AFawkes tho no one told me to volunteer

[charred jetty]

well it was safe before because you're gonna get ashem first anyways

[drifting hemlock]

But he also has cheat death with decent damage which might have some pros?

[charred jetty]

and ashem at L, M and A are all good breakpoints that helped the pathing

[charred jetty]

I tested him in early game

he is essentially what knox wished he was

[drifting hemlock]

[charred jetty]

very strong 1v5 impossible to kill stall

[drifting hemlock]

Needs testing? I am going to create fresh new account

[charred jetty]

in theory very good for campaign and TS

[ancient flume]

How many covers do I want and whats the gameplan here ? 😄

[charred jetty]

which is like the only 2 gamemodes new players should worry about

[charred jetty]

for now you just need 1

[drifting hemlock]

Yeah exactly

[charred jetty]

because you get one for free at the start

[charred jetty]

hmm and if alvida elthara doesn't work, fawkes elthara is definitely going to work

[drifting hemlock]

Dang i knew hes good but didnt know hes that good

[charred jetty]

like I'm using that comp in my TS rng and it's very strong

fawkes doesn't get tankier with investment, just more damage

[warm steppe]

What is better strengthening first, Ivan or Randle (boots plus weapon)?

[charred jetty]

with good investment fawkes is kinda crazy

does soooooo much damage

[torpid seal]

Should I get a copy of afawkes so I can pair it with elthara and alvida for ts

[charred jetty]

one of my stable endgame campaign comps is a variant of fawkes carry

let me see if I can find some videos

[torpid seal]

Randle

[ancient flume]

Ok I got another one.

[drifting hemlock]

Finish who you are building before getting him ig

[warm steppe]

thanks

[torpid seal]

I already finished ashem, currently saving my TE but was wondering if picking up a copy of him before saving for envy is worth

[charred jetty]

please tell me these are different replays

ok they are different replays

but you get the point

(randle becomes a support later on, that's why it seems like he's not carrying)

[charred jetty]

nice

that's enough to constrcut your team

you can stop running GG now lol

hmm if you want to you can try a storm run for an elthara coll, but not needed

don't use your +1 level totem on anything that's not cover for now

[ancient flume]

KK

[drifting hemlock]

Rlly debatable rn but if your alvida stall is not keeping up then maybe give it a try yourself? Its not like its gonna brick your acc

[ancient flume]

I got this one

[drifting hemlock]

Lvl +1 is good

[charred jetty]

ayyy +1 pretty good

[drifting hemlock]

elthara does aoe damage immediately so she utilizes +1 rlly well

[charred jetty]

stats are kinda meh, but more than enough for now

[torpid seal]

I just might do it during the discounted pull to see how well it can boost my ts

[charred jetty]

ok so the simple 2 team setup is this

=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1429176528410906704/EarlyGameCampGuide.png?ex=6963eddd&is=69629c5d&hm=d8c32af6b77e0b1fbddf7ca3abd6665f77ed8a00fb752cbd9bdd825ac231ff41&

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[drifting hemlock]

What do you think its gonna be the awk pippa or tasi tho

[charred jetty]

look at the base team

essentially you want to replace ivan and randle with elthara as your core dps, slap in another support or something, doesn't matter

and you want to isolate ivan randle into it's own comp

[drifting hemlock]

Gorok (lvl 161+)

[charred jetty]

ye if he has that

[ancient flume]

WIll they still be my first team?

[charred jetty]

but gorok you mgiht want in the ivan randle team

[drifting hemlock]

He’s gonna ult immediately giving great cover

[charred jetty]

you don't need to stack that hard lol

[drifting hemlock]

[torpid seal]

Tasi

[charred jetty]

or ig he could

just do stacked elthara comp r1, ivan randle r2

[ancient flume]

Got 6 Copys of him

[drifting hemlock]

Your acc looking goooddd

Mad good for volunteer tho

[drifting hemlock]

Yes that is the way, 99% of comps i see is that way

[charred jetty]

ye maybe he doesn't need the cover stall tech yet lol

[drifting hemlock]

I can give u replay too if u need

But nonetheless this shi is fast action

[torpid seal]

Think it’s better to isolate knox or put it with elthara? Knox solo wr is only 40%

[ancient flume]

I got misha ascend, still better to use Tamrus?

[drifting hemlock]

15 second clear

[drifting hemlock]

Better with misha

[drifting hemlock]

in TS he’s gonna need more than lysander to work

[torpid seal]

Yeah he can’t solo anymore, any idea what my 4t or 5t should be?

[drifting hemlock]

You dont have envy or afawkes tho that’s kinda

[torpid seal]

Should I just sack the 4th team and just have knox and elthara together? That comp has like 70%+ wr

[torpid seal]

Yeah🥀

[drifting hemlock]

Hold on im trying to remember

[torpid seal]

Sitting at 3% in ts rn

[glossy hare]

Ready for the ‘bad’ one now. Still crazy to me a female dime isn’t absolutely busted day one. Lol

[last burrow]

is it okay to L palmer? i have ivan and randle now 🫶🏻

[drifting hemlock]

A little more u r in gonna be in the 100