classic-questions

[river shuttle]

Scar, alvida, mishka, dae, lyca

Try ashem i guess, if you have maybe simona honestly idk who deals magic damage in the early game

[devout marsh]

I have the Wizard filter on, and I only have these, at the moment I don't know if I can get past floor 60.

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks but no luck on alvida copies much TT

[river shuttle]

I cleared w l alvi and l lyca, it took about 2 hours tho

[river shuttle]

Try simona then might be enough

[hybrid notch]

just got this guy from normal summons. I think that ive used up all of my luck @river shuttle

[devout marsh]

ok

[river shuttle]

He’s rly helpful might be the best single copy you can get

[hybrid notch]

yeah he just doesnt die. Tryna go for awakened shemira I am gonna get one soon from the plant event

[river shuttle]

That’s good, safe ur time emblems then

[hybrid notch]

hmm okay is one copy gonna be okay enough?

[acoustic osprey]

Rngesus TT

[hybrid notch]

cause the guide says to pull up until she is asc or smth

[teal wigeon]

should i get 2nd copy of envy or 7th copy of knox from coveted invite

[river shuttle]

Yes but you want to safe enough to take her m bcs l+ doesnt rly do anything and wokes are important so you want to be ready for meta changes without half building a woke

[river shuttle]

Do you have ashemira a1 already? If yes envy or whatever woke you like, dont pick anything else than wokes if you dont have all prio wokes max

[teal wigeon]

i have ashem a1 yeah

[hybrid notch]

it says to save 200 more to summon the said hero to M once ive got a single copy

[pulsar marlin]

409 e60 with preferably a half decent coll

[river shuttle]

Yes bcs thats the average you need and if they would release a new best early game woke you have a decent start for it already

[river shuttle]

Hm no only 309e60 with 3m 1l atk

[river shuttle]

Well than yk what to do

[somber rose]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1430821399219535984/image.png?ex=68fd2604&is=68fbd484&hm=b53ff1d8e5b2c0408021ed3436a01af19d9f2de313884c4070fd03025966d814&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=969&height=999

[hybrid notch]

aight thanks imma just save up then have a nice night mate

[barren bronze]

Lucilla still good?

[broken hollow]

Guys who is the devourer again in nc

[velvet jetty]

Not really no

[pulsar marlin]

Really far down the prio

If ur alr at lucilla prio it’s just better to wait and see

[broken hollow]

Nope mercing her

[willow bison]

[slow jay]

I just unlocked x6 speedup but it feels clunkier than 2x? do people really use x6?

[winter breach]

I do

[neon sparrow]

[slow jay]

I should try to get used to it then

[neon sparrow]

Never. App already overheats on base speed

[slow jay]

thats true, I barely notice it because I use emulator, when switched to phone it does heat up really fast

[neon sparrow]

Embedding companions into the classic app instead of a stand alone was a wonderful idea

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/follow-red-panda-excited-floppy-skipping-gif-10036098104712629450

[neon sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-8127416880992033330

[uneven veldt]

technically from a game dev perspective if they do a normal job on optimization those two wont conflict whatsoever

[hybrid breach]

its lilith

[uneven veldt]

heating up is bc of runtime stuff

[hybrid breach]

having a combat with ashem for too long makes your phone heat up, you think theyre any good at optimization

[uneven veldt]

having campanion and classic is just bigger game size

[uneven veldt]

wa

[neon sparrow]

game didn’t used to do this

[uneven veldt]

then they are bad at optimization

[neon sparrow]

We already knew this

[uneven veldt]

game should be like half serverside anyway idk why lag

[hybrid breach]

spaghetti code hell

[neon sparrow]

Running more resource heavy games with half the performance issues

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/aventurine-angry-cat-angry-itayuwuji-angy-cat-kitty-mad-gif-11580736547562782405

who is this guy all ik is they pop up when i search hsr

[uneven veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gold-ship-gif-20842560

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/golshi-goldship-uma-musume-gif-1794682000302844

[nova wharf]

Has there been enough time to give a review on the OPM dims?

[turbid spade]

Saitama seems good in cr rn

Tatsumaki idk

[nova wharf]

Nice ok thnx

Cr isn't crazy impt... i guess something is better than nothing tho lol

[pulsar marlin]

He’s also decent in ts as alna 2

[nova wharf]

Ok cool

[stiff siren]

=todolist

[gilded sapphire]

Beginner TODO-List

1. Read and follow =wishlist
2. Level roster following the bottom left of =guide
3. Push as far as you can using some basic setup of =campaign
4. As soon as GG unlocks (ch6), go to Northzone, set 3 blue totems and run 7 flight (blue wings collection) runs. Read Nino's guide in =colls for more info on how to do this.
5. Befriend someone who has a 409e60 awthalia (look for red/shiny stars, a crown and the 2 red diamonds under the faction icon) and merc it, get a mentor if possible
6. Use said merc to finish all of PoT content, using afkguide.net for guides
7. Finish all candy crush and vampire survivors content (either manually or just spam request help)
8. Summon everything with scrolls and diamonds on 10x pull, use faction scrolls on GB (spend the 300 diamonds if it's not on GB)
9. Use ivan + randle or whatever carry you have and push as far as they can, put the highest ATK flight they have on Ivan and Randle. If you don't have ivan or randle by ch12 and have completed all of the above, use your hero choice chest from ch12 on ivan > randle. If you have both, save the chest.
10. AFK
11. Read the rest of =guide as reading material whilst you wait
12. Repeat steps 8-10 until they hit ch31

Terminology:
GG = Ghoulish Gallery
PoT = Peaks of Time
GB = Graveborn

[stiff siren]

=colls

[gilded sapphire]

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[rough tundra]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1430821399219535984/image.png?ex=68fd2604&is=68fbd484&hm=b53ff1d8e5b2c0408021ed3436a01af19d9f2de313884c4070fd03025966d814&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=969&height=999

[rough tundra]

=campaign

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618027271906918400/1320930606573555752/newgitgudguidev2.png?ex=689b45be&is=6899f43e&hm=2a04a9aec55d8216c661a2499dccc95d8e112a970bbca008f0c9e34918e7a0bc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1516&height=1168

[neon sparrow]

He’s The Gambler

[pallid knoll]

Yep. If you have a decent phone, x4 at 6x multi speed runs fine.

An SD 8 series, high end 7 series, or a Mediatek Dimensity 8300 and up will perform flawlessly.

[pallid knoll]

What's your exact phone model (and processor if you know it)

[neon sparrow]

Newest iPhone can’t handle it so it’s dead to me

[pallid knoll]

If an upper mid range android runs it flawlessly, but an iphone 17 pro cant..

Guess where the problem is

[neon sparrow]

No, the problem is afk arena. Please tell me how I can run genshin and hsr for hours no issue, and 30 minutes of afk has the phone overheating

[pallid knoll]

No overheating issues for me. Running on a Dimensity 8400 Ultra proc. Everything max, 6x speed boost.

I can run genshin max no problems as well.

[pallid knoll]

Something to do with the game and iOS i guess.

[neon sparrow]

You are literally the only person who doesn’t complain about afk performance issues

[pallid knoll]

Might just be tech knowledge issues. Many people dont even know what their phone's processor is.

And even those who do, are not sure how it compares to others.

[turbid spade]

I hate people

[neon sparrow]

1 game app out of 50 with issues isn’t the phone’s fault. Hell, I can run outlanders sim on my phone without issues. Performance issues for afk have been huge since companions was introduced. It’s no secret

[pallid knoll]

Well if it runs that badly for you, and only afk arena out of all your games, then it could either be an isolated issue (needing a submission to bug reports), or a software optimization issue between the game and the iOS version you're using.

[pallid knoll]

But you're a person yourself

[neon sparrow]

Submit what bug? ‘You added a whole different game within a game and performance is suffering’? It’s not isolated. I’ve talked to so many others with the same issue. Difference is they’ll use an emulator instead and I refuse

[torpid seal]

@charred jetty how does the cover spam elthara tech work again? Alvida dies immediately most of the time too and when she does ult, elthara also dies immediately. What is this weather dmg? Does this require elthara m40?

Is this strictly for ts? Or campaign also works

[olive jewel]

not to bother but since you are here anyway could I get lucius merc when you have a chance pls?

[neon sparrow]

I’ve turned it over to farara for cr. Am I online in game?

[olive jewel]

online 43m ago

[charred jetty]

you only need L for weather daamge

it's a passive that doesn't need her to be alive

[neon sparrow]

What collection?

[torpid seal]

Am I able to dm u or send u videos?

[olive jewel]

CR pls

[charred jetty]

can you show me your collection setup and also the enemy team? (aka just tap the collection button and ss)

[olive jewel]

I assume thats def bondage

[neon sparrow]

Uh… I don’t cr anymore. Def bondage?

[torpid seal]

Yeah one sec

[olive jewel]

yes

[neon sparrow]

Sent

Cover needs +1 for cheat deaths

Assuming that’s what cover spam means

[torpid seal]

I thought cover spam was just to delay enemy entrance so alvida can ult

[neon sparrow]

Mmm possibly. These campaign strats don’t exist where I am

[charred jetty]

ok yeah I see the problem

you need to find a differnt team to face lol

[torpid seal]

LOL

[charred jetty]

so alvida has 2 weakness

1. execute damage
2. energy drain

let me just break it down for you

[torpid seal]

Oh word

[charred jetty]

oden + nara has energy drain
nara has execute

[torpid seal]

Lemme test with diff enemy

[charred jetty]

so uh, it's quite the miserable matchup

hmm I'm not sure if benno mentioned this in the guide

=earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

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[charred jetty]

ok yeah he did mention it

the general rule for solving your own mjlti comps is always always start with the least stable comp

[torpid seal]

So try and get this comp to work first

[charred jetty]

he said weakest, but least stable is probably more accurate

aka start with the comps that need a lot of fiddling/has a lot of counters

[torpid seal]

What about for ts? Can I run the same thing for a team? Or I need stronger units with elthara

[charred jetty]

which if you are using alvida stall, that comp is pretty unstable

TS we legit don't know. In theory this should be a very strong comp for early, but idk if you need a stronger stall

you should try alvida + supports + elthara, and then knox + elthara

[torpid seal]

Bet I’ll lyk how it performs this ts for me

I’m assuming seal pet too?

[charred jetty]

seal is not good enough until lv15

which is like quite a lot later

idk if new players should build seal 18 first anymore tbh

probably yes still because TS

[torpid seal]

Oh fr? Which pet then?

[charred jetty]

but you're not going to be using seal in camp or NC

well ig tower

IC 12 is very strong in TS and camp, we've been discussing IC 12 before seal 18. let me just check what the guide currently says

=beasts

[gilded sapphire]

Beasts

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[charred jetty]

hmm it still says seal 18 first > IC 12

yeah just continue following that for now

[torpid seal]

Hmm ok

[charred jetty]

hmm idk how good IC is for TS

it should in theory be pretty good

[turbid spade]

@charred jetty jd what if the opps roll up on me what i do then?

[charred jetty]

@glass zephyr do you know if IC 12 is very good in TS?

or should they just head down rush seal 18 for the seal stall team

I know pony 6 is not good enough to really do anything in TS

uh IC is probably envy team

[turbid spade]

Even at 18 isnt it kinda ass?

[charred jetty]

pony?

[turbid spade]

Yes

[charred jetty]

well pony 18 would be good enough for early TS

but aint nobody getting pony 18 early lol

(if you did please restart)

[torpid seal]

So we use all spice for seal til 18, then use all spice for IC til IC is 12?

[charred jetty]

huge problem with pony is that pony is only okay relative to investment at lv6. He then proceeds to suck until reso 18

[upper acorn]

insanely good, trust

[charred jetty]

and reso 18 is like late game

[charred jetty]

hmmm that is what the guide says I think

it's the safe path

but that doesn't take into account L elthara as a stall option

[glass zephyr]

yes

[torpid seal]

Hmm does this elthara stall comp like IC more or seal?

[charred jetty]

with L elthara, should people just do IC first to bring envy comp online earlier instead of stall?

because like even my stall comp seal 27 does not do as much damage as elthara

idk how that scales though

[charred jetty]

well you'd probably not run either tbh

or maybe alvida M20 + IC

[torpid seal]

Bet I have ic at 6 rn

[charred jetty]

IC is pretty trash until 12

well maybe not trash, but gets much much better at 12

[torpid seal]

Let’s say if the rushing IC 12 is the new prio, should we still continue finishing seal to 18? I have seal at 11 rn. Or move to IC

[charred jetty]

nah if your seal is already 11 do at least to 15 first

[upper acorn]

the prio has always been seal 15 > ic 12 > seal 18 though

[charred jetty]

in fact just finish

[charred jetty]

I'm wonderingf if IC 12 > seal 18 is just better now though

[willow bison]

jd am i still at 336

[torpid seal]

Yeah I saw that but then also heard to just completely finish seal first before using spice on anything else

[charred jetty]

uh sorry I was posting my weird 301

[upper acorn]

oooh are u cooking up the new strats again

[charred jetty]

wasn't looking

yep still 336

[willow bison]

rng sucks smh

[charred jetty]

we actually talked about this earlier, even before elthara

now with elthara, L elthara takes over the dps of at least 1 stall comp

[upper acorn]

mmhm yea thats pretty valid. are you gonna recommend pulling 1 copy elth as well?

[buoyant fern]

=tree

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Elder Tree

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994914542440173688

[neon sparrow]

[buoyant fern]

[neon sparrow]

Good timing

[steep stream]

Is IC 12 the one where it basically insta ults the start of the fight

[charred jetty]

I think I want to get some results before going with that, but on paper it looks pretty good

I'll copy paste my reasoning here

[upper acorn]

[olive jewel]

JD look at this

[charred jetty]

3 reasons:

1. L elthara has demonstrated prowess in RGMs in general at L, like even for lategame players. This effect will only be amplified for newer players, so it's not really a wasted or risky investment (unlike something like L abel for instance).
2. alvida + L elthara is probably really strong in both camp and TS
   needs testing, but I'm 85% sure it'll be really good, given that it's essentially a beefed up version of knox solo. L ethara in stall poses a threat even to our fully stacked TS teams, so if you put them against rbsg E+ heroes I think it'll demolish
3. New players typically need more hand-holding for all parts of the game, and it's kinda discouraging when all the clears in early camp is elthara, and they are being told to make ivan randle work.

and she will for sure help getting some kills in early NC

Now obvoiusly RNG will differ wildly between people, but they should at least get it within 3 months (HB release), or probably less given events, IJ, etc.

HB release schedule is once every 3 months, they will on average get it in 1.5 months guaranteed, and since the events last a little bit, it's closer to like 1.3 months for most players.
and IJ and codes and VoWs and lucky pulls from dragon etc.

[charred jetty]

insta poop

no need to wait

[olive jewel]

[charred jetty]

meanwhile my lucius is M+ now

[olive jewel]

so is mine bud

[charred jetty]

but yeah, what are your thoughts on the L elthara thing @upper acorn ?

[olive jewel]

taking bets on what my CR hit was this week folks. Actually very consistent, only 100 dias spent

[charred jetty]

missed a bit at the bottom

[neon sparrow]

Better than mine

[olive jewel]

[neon sparrow]

[turbid spade]

@neon sparrow Broncos going to win the superbowl or nah?

[upper acorn]

I agree ngl, not only for the TS stuff but also for the PvE content. If you can test her out in all modes that matter for early game players it'll even be better

[neon sparrow]

My hit is 0, so low bar Jacko

[olive jewel]

still counts if farara does it

[charred jetty]

I don;t have an early game account to test stuff anymore

[upper acorn]

no more kraken apprentices?

[charred jetty]

benno's small acc is kinda bricked

[neon sparrow]

I have zero feel for what cr damage is like these days

[charred jetty]

idk if my apprentice still plays anymore

[upper acorn]

only option then is to make ur own

[olive jewel]

euphy what is my CR hit

[charred jetty]

dude early game is so painful I'd rather just let the meta rot than run a new account

would be awesome if lilith can give us accounts test accounts

[upper acorn]

mhmmm 230B at least, 234 if u can manage

[olive jewel]

not a whel

[charred jetty]

maybe just lock the account in ch37

[olive jewel]

225.5

[charred jetty]

and have it reset to 37-1 every month or something

[steep stream]

How did benno brick his small acc

[charred jetty]

have all the 4fs at A 209, all the wokes and cele at M, all HBs at L

something like that

[charred jetty]

negative diamonds, IYKYK

hang on let me set up a new set of teams in IJ

[steep stream]

Oh benno went out with a bang on that account i see

[charred jetty]

but ye we were testing stuff on his small acc before

I learnt that E selene is like actually quite good from that

=earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

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[charred jetty]

not worth gazing though

unless it helps TS, which I'm not sure if it does

[charred jetty]

also on this that's just

1. camp
2. TS
3. NC (only for kill, time doesn't matter)
4. DT

oh yeah I forgot about DT lol

L elthara is surely good for DT, well at least better than not having L elthara

[upper acorn]

OOOOOH DT is it. Getting early Scrolls and DIs is huge

[charred jetty]

yeah

people always look over stuff like MV and DT because they are not competitive RGMs

but they actually yield waaaaay morer esources the actual NC TS CR for newer players

[autumn roost]

yo JD my seal is 9 should i go IC 12

[charred jetty]

um

[primal trench]

So I've been away from this for a while and have come back for the OPM collab and to my surprise, the Coveted Invite
2 questions: who should I pick from the OPM when the exchange goes live and who from the Coveted Invite because there's a LOT of Heroes, especially the Awoken(?) ones that I don't have

[charred jetty]

ok I'm just going to recommend seal 18 (well paved path), but if you are down to do testing for the community (at your own digression) you could try IC 12

[charred jetty]

OPM > tat if you can only get one

and =te for coveted

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[autumn roost]

appreciate dat , even if i was down to test in so far for being able to

[charred jetty]

well seal 18 is a long journey lol

for reference, getting to lv 6 is 6 copies, lv 9 is 15

lv 18 is 48 copies

lv 12 IC is only 24 copies total

[primal trench]

In case I misunderstand, Tatsu over Saitama if I can't get both?

[charred jetty]

so you're actually just getting started lol

[olive jewel]

god I am so walled on 272

[charred jetty]

no OPM is better

[steep stream]

Other way around

[charred jetty]

sorry I mean saitama

[autumn roost]

low key i might do it just to mess around

[charred jetty]

wait why is he not called the one punch man

[steep stream]

Saitama better

[charred jetty]

isn't OPM talking about saitama

[autumn roost]

also what’s the idea of the newest hb dragon w alvida comp ?

[steep stream]

Well the anime name is OPM but in universe hes not actually called OPM

[charred jetty]

oh

[steep stream]

Hes known as Saitama or by his hero named, Caped Baldy lol

[charred jetty]

I've always just known him as the one punch man

[primal trench]

It's that he literally one punches anything because he's trained so ridicuously much

[steep stream]

Yeah youre good its a common misconception

[charred jetty]

the idea of the comp is M20 alvida is invincble once she ults once for like 45s

like literally cannot die (unless execute, but the only enemy that executes in early-midgame camp is nara, just avoid her)

and elthara has a passive that does a truckload of damage that persists for the rest of the battle even after she dies

you combine those two

[autumn roost]

is it more of a pvp type thing tho

[steep stream]

Would gorren’s execute work on alvida

[charred jetty]

it's a pretty natural combo

the tricky part though is getting alvida to ult

because she is the most spontaneously exploding hero in the game before +40

[upper acorn]

recommend 40 alvi early as well

[autumn roost]

give her like lyca etc ?

[charred jetty]

not even alna or ashem or pets can save her

so one option is to get the +40

but +40s are frickin expensive

[autumn roost]

real shit 😩

[steep stream]

The only reason i can still use alvida in camp at ch 46 is cuz of rem 9f

[charred jetty]

like it might turn out that getting her +40 is the best move, but I'm not ready to embrace that much risk lol

so instead we use grumble's cover stall tech

you know how cover delays enemy entrance? The idea is to identify the enemies causing her to combust, then stall all of them with covers such that she gets to ult

[autumn roost]

is grabbing a copy of elthara low key prio

[autumn roost]

low key sounds enjoyable 😭

[charred jetty]

it was less used before because the only persistent passive dps before L elthara was pony 6

and pony 6 is kinda... eh....

[autumn roost]

it’s def ehh 🥀

[charred jetty]

L elthara however is a completley different story

she is frickin beast even at L

and does not need to be alive

[autumn roost]

but prio wise , is it worth to burn the potential 50 for her ?

[charred jetty]

she is basically what pony 6 wished it was

[autumn roost]

LMAO , yeah from what it looks like

[charred jetty]

.

this is more to justify for more experienced players, but is probably helpful to reference too

but as with all untested things, there is a risk

if you don't want to take the risk don't do it, just follow the traditional path (and maybe hope to get a lucky copy from dragolite pulls, they drop a lot actually)

[autumn roost]

honestly well said about it all , i think i could live with the 50 less summons LMAO , esp w how she could work in ts 🤔

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks finally passed it, do you have a comp for 298 as well?

[charred jetty]

they stall for like 5s

you can't win in 5s

10 is probably more accurate, but you get my point

or fawkes first

woah fawkes + L elthara

that sounds ...

like legit

ch31 in 1 day f2p would be crazy

next HB release I'm going to try that

yeah

and like I said it's not like L elthara bricks their account

they're gonna need L elthara later anyways

[river shuttle]

Ur not ur to lazy

[charred jetty]

if it's only 1 day though

and I get L elthara to truck content with

[hybrid breach]

need ivan luck still

[charred jetty]

ig ye

just hoping to get 3 copies of ivan

(1 comes from ch12 chest, since don't need randle carry anymore)

but I'm somewhat doubtful that L elthara is actually better as a solo carry than randle

like she does more damage, but she can't use flight

and not being able to use flight sucks

[hybrid breach]

what class is she i forgor

[upper acorn]

I used hild carry in the past and he was crazy. Got me to ch23 at lv140

[hybrid breach]

shes war right

[charred jetty]

sorc

might would be not bad

[hybrid breach]

oh

[charred jetty]

sorc is pretty bad...

well she does have dodge gear at elast

[hybrid breach]

was gonna suggest you speed run a +2 for the lols like i did for vault on one acc

think i got a +2 vault in under an hour

bud sorc dont matter wings useless if you cant ult

[charred jetty]

I'm not trying to get banned for rng on first day of making the account

[charred jetty]

yeah, and what's funny is +2 wings useless if you can ult

[river shuttle]

[barren fjord]

i have 4 red furn cards, do i use it on randle/ivan/alvida/lady simona/mira or do i save for when i have a 9f char ascended

[charred jetty]

save

[barren fjord]

preesh

[upper acorn]

=advanced

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1404717289965879337/Campaign_Guide_v2.jpg?ex=689c346c&is=689ae2ec&hm=ee85d263bbe068adcae458abb6608f26b2b3b966d0190824e2f0735b3f883605

[barren fjord]

=siprio

[gilded sapphire]

Signature Item Prio Guide:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1008942630199107654

[barren fjord]

should i si30 knox?

[craggy oak]

euphy i can i get some thoughts

what are the heroes that give you the most issues in camp/kt

[craggy oak]

si20 is fine

after si20 you go directly to si40

[barren fjord]

yeah i just read 30 doesny zeem worth unless going to 40

whos next si30 focus then? probably eugene right? or ashem if i can pull of her getting to M soon i guess

[river shuttle]

[river shuttle]

We donnu what you have

[barren fjord]

oh i was just talking like in general, like ivan is almost always the first si30 type thing

[river shuttle]

I dont think eugene is a high prio si30

[craggy oak]

eugene isnt a prio in general

[hybrid breach]

eugene

[river shuttle]

Usually you dont build him esrly

[river shuttle]

Helloooooo

[hybrid breach]

goodbye

[craggy oak]

not worth building at all now

[barren fjord]

damn, things have changed in a year :3 , so should i just save for M ashem? im one copy away in terms of pulls

[hybrid breach]

or ever

[hybrid breach]

if youre returning quit again

[barren fjord]

really? holy shit wasnt he like top tier before?

[hybrid breach]

if you just started also quit

[craggy oak]

only because he was free

[barren fjord]

JEROME! LMAO

[craggy oak]

stop telling people to quit wtf

[hybrid breach]

[craggy oak]

jerome still super strong, very good si30

[barren fjord]

i meant jerome guys, my bad

[river shuttle]

Wow rude

[barren fjord]

thats why i was so confused on why u were bashing him 😭

[upper acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1302937509453631580.gif?size=1024

[river shuttle]

[hybrid breach]

yes jerome si30 is still good but around 3rd+ prio?

[river shuttle]

Jerome ≠ eugene

[hybrid breach]

after ivan and ashem at min

[upper acorn]

like before ch31? around what stage

[barren fjord]

yeah ill just wait till ashem and then just kinda feel it out

[river shuttle]

I was able to do 5 other si30 before i had ashem m

[craggy oak]

approx 2k+ in KT

[barren fjord]

i got ashem 1 copy away in 90 pulls :3

[river shuttle]

Rng diff

[upper acorn]

wts im not even there yet

[craggy oak]

or like ch70 ig

the furthest you've been then

[barren fjord]

i went f2p this time and they have been giving me good rng

[craggy oak]

i dont know any problematic heroes cause i dont have problems apart from pcap

[river shuttle]

Be glad this can change quickly

[barren fjord]

lowkey aura

[barren fjord]

yep dw, i can feel it in the hb dragons

[river shuttle]

My biggest problem is that my abel team sucks

[hybrid breach]

trish sucks

but i didnt do camp/kt for like the entire last year i played

[craggy oak]

https://tenor.com/view/pepo-g-peepo-gif-22945943

[hybrid breach]

super late game trish gets ult super fast and bc of engrave can be very tanky

[barren fjord]

right theres like new heroes in campaign, i still remember seeing naoroko for the first time and struggling lol

[upper acorn]

hmmm I dont really know since I just auto through everything. If a team gets beaten I just use another comp. And the usual suspects are Tasi, Morael, Eluard - shield guys in general

[hybrid breach]

and often when she ults she team wipes

[craggy oak]

velu wei time

[river shuttle]

Jd skill issue

[craggy oak]

oh yes eluard and respen ty

[upper acorn]

I switched to Chicken and the comp just became too stable

[hybrid breach]

they arent much of an issue later on tho right?

[craggy oak]

depends on matchup ig

with black ball they can be kinda annoying ig

[barren fjord]

should i garr rem or shuna first? or just wait on the exchange event to be done

[craggy oak]

but ngl i dont struggle so idk

[hybrid breach]

tasi is a pain late still i think

[hybrid breach]

event first

[barren fjord]

cool cool

[craggy oak]

if you wanted comp stats from 2900-2950. number of occurences of each comp

[river shuttle]

Might be skill issue frfr

[barren fjord]

elthara shows up???

[craggy oak]

thats the lowest rc clear tho

[hybrid breach]

no

[craggy oak]

the elthara comp is basically envy comp ngl

[hybrid breach]

not as an enemy

[barren fjord]

oh i thought u meant wlthara is an enemy alrdy lmao

[craggy oak]

elthara gets used

[craggy oak]

where e68 wobel

[barren fjord]

if i miss one thing about my old account, its definitely my 18 seal

[craggy oak]

where 40960 palmer

[barren fjord]

is t this like a brick

[river shuttle]

Not there why would i invest into a hero just for camp

[hybrid breach]

depends on acc size

[craggy oak]

ae/cr

[barren fjord]

i remember someone saying not to upgrade palmer too much

[river shuttle]

I dont see ae rn

[barren fjord]

oh right igit doesnt mattwr for big baller over here

[craggy oak]

nah just cr, i thought you were talking about palmer

[hybrid breach]

its had marginal improvements in some nc to help reach dps checks and ofc cr

[river shuttle]

Its not an ch 77-78 acc budd

[barren fjord]

guys my ketchup dissapeared

[hybrid breach]

just get a bigger acc

[river shuttle]

Dont want

[barren fjord]

found it

[olive jewel]

[hybrid breach]

hi bud

[river shuttle]

Palmer is e48

[barren fjord]

hey jacko

[olive jewel]

[hybrid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/hachubby-hachu-ketchup-pettheketchup-gif-22093826

[barren fjord]

hey jacko

[olive jewel]

you see dopetective bud?

[hybrid breach]

yeah khua dm me when you made it

[olive jewel]

[hybrid breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927139487740481546/1457300708671094794/IMG_8975.gif

i just havent been around OS much to spam it with you around

[barren fjord]

eatin chicken nuggets

and campaigning

[river shuttle]

Dream life

[barren fjord]

real

[olive jewel]

so hard walled in IJ rn bud

[barren fjord]

the nuggets kinda suck, was too lazy to air fry em so i just microwaved it

[olive jewel]

first time I have ever wanted more copies of vurk

[hybrid breach]

i have no clue what that is

[olive jewel]

Illusory Journey bud

Bud is too quitbrained

[hybrid breach]

oh the weird camp thing

it came out after i left bud

[olive jewel]

yeah. Terminally quitbrained

[hybrid breach]

i dont even have current nc meta memorized

[craggy oak]

do you want to do my nc

[hybrid breach]

no im good, i uninstalled the app already

[tepid totem]

ij sucks

[hybrid breach]

we almost got selfaware hat

[upper acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/lapwing-vrchat-hash-gif-2317334684956218715

[lament nebula]

good morning quixk question cause I cant make anything of the photo for the dust guide whats the stage that it sais I can use the chests after?

[teal wigeon]

min invest for talimar?

[autumn gull]

M30 for some NC uses

but generally she wants 30960

[teal wigeon]

is she good at my point in the game

i can get her 8th copy now

[autumn gull]

i wouldn’t spend too much on her too soon

shes a very good support, but there’s a lot of cheap and even better support so that your big resources can go to the carries, celhypos and wokes like envy, sion etc

but you can definitely ascend her!

[olive jewel]

28-30 I want to say

def ch28

[tepid totem]

what does her f9 do

[teal wigeon]

whats min invest on tamarus?

[charred jetty]

tasi

flora

trishea

naroko

ginneas

[tepid totem]

no one answered my question lol

[craggy oak]

real?

[charred jetty]

these 5 are just terrible, no good counter, you usually just slam with with ashem envy or some other super stable comp. If there is more than 1 team with it it's just a hard multi, I recommend merc if not a campaign purist like me .

[olive jewel]

309 realistically

[craggy oak]

this is kt specific

[charred jetty]

well envy counters them is not really a counter

[tepid totem]

sad that chats dead

[charred jetty]

ashem envy kinda counters everything

[craggy oak]

[charred jetty]

but selene does counter tasi because she negates the blink

[craggy oak]

doesnt it sometimes lose to trish

[charred jetty]

but it's still terrible

[olive jewel]

idk who youre talking about bud

[tepid totem]

jds gone

@olive jewelwhat does talimar's 9f do

[charred jetty]

well it loses to a lot of things, but it is goto stable comp that also beats everything with adjustment

[tepid totem]

jd where u at boi

[olive jewel]

gives some of her self buffs to the carry

[charred jetty]

... did you block me hat?

[tepid totem]

no did u

[craggy oak]

ginneas counter is just big sustained dps no?

[tepid totem]

i hope the new woke pet does well

[charred jetty]

so yes, but at high enough deficit things like ashem envy stops doing enough damage

so he just becomes really annoying

ginneas spam was the reason why ch76 used to be really cancerous (before it got nerfed into basically midgame power levels)

[tepid totem]

ij sucks sad that there are ppl who like it

[craggy oak]

what counters shields? thoran?

[charred jetty]

I'm also not sure what the scope of the guide is - earlier on people tend to have more trouble with flora since there are less answers, but later on cover + cc usually takes care of her

[craggy oak]

its mainly review of comps 2900-3000

[charred jetty]

uh basically nothing

wait 3000 is out?

[teal wigeon]

is it worth ascending if i cant invest this

[charred jetty]

ugh... haven't played anything not IJ for a month

[tepid totem]

good

[charred jetty]

I see

[teal wigeon]

=sig

[craggy oak]

next patch

[charred jetty]

oh yeah then flora can be taken out of the no counter set

she's just a big threat that they have to counter

[teal wigeon]

=signatures

[olive jewel]

meh. He's fairly niche now

[charred jetty]

oh I see

[olive jewel]

dont do it yet

[charred jetty]

but yeah, same as heroes like vika, simona, oden maybe

[teal wigeon]

is trishea better? i can hcp her tommorow

[charred jetty]

like can be dealt with, but kinds needs to be addressed

[olive jewel]

trish is good for early NC yeah

[solar fractal]

Umbrial

[craggy oak]

isnt this all just dae tho

[charred jetty]

I think thoran is also one of those technically counters everything, but that's just because he is a universal comp, as opposed to specific hero counter like cover against flora for instance

[teal wigeon]

i only have 15 acended dont i need 30 for nc

[charred jetty]

oh I usually just bump/stall them, and then do stunlock/immunity

e.g. IC

or like charm

or like slene cycle starts rolling

yeah ig daemia ult is too

[teal wigeon]

also whats min invest on trishea 😅

[craggy oak]

20330

[charred jetty]

203e33

e30*

you really need the e30

[teal wigeon]

do i still use her with baden

[craggy oak]

wait @charred jetty why are half the respen ones charm

i swear i always see charm put into respen

[charred jetty]

probably copy paste

[craggy oak]

[charred jetty]

respen.... not eorin?

hmm so respen does big shield

[craggy oak]

or ig i just notice it more since it sucks

[charred jetty]

oh yeah eluard and palmer are the two other ones

literal immportal

[craggy oak]

palmer sounds very charmable tho

[charred jetty]

oh yeah it's probably because non-cheese style comps don't do enough damage to respen

[teal wigeon]

=beasts

[gilded sapphire]

Beasts

#1019445901628014723 message

[craggy oak]

trish isnt full cc immune right?

[charred jetty]

she is if you don't insta lock her

[cinder zealot]

[charred jetty]

but charm doesn't work because she insta wipes charm

charm is not fast enough

[neon junco]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1430821399219535984/image.png?ex=68fd2604&is=68fbd484&hm=b53ff1d8e5b2c0408021ed3436a01af19d9f2de313884c4070fd03025966d814&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=969&height=999

[craggy oak]

sounds like dae then

[charred jetty]

so against trish my goto counter is bump (e.g. hildwin opposite) + IC

no dae is usually too slow too

[hasty flax]

Hi

[charred jetty]

maybe my positioning is not that good, but it's kinda hard to beat trishea's first action

[craggy oak]

i mean usually i see wei with velu against trish a lot and it seems to work

[solar fractal]

[upper acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/847156866395668480.gif?size=1024

[charred jetty]

I think velu works because 5 MP negates all magic damage

[craggy oak]

doesnt need 5 mp ngl

i think just big MP + shuna helps a lot

[cinder zealot]

[charred jetty]

oh yeah shuna definitely helps

[olive jewel]

[hasty flax]

Supsup

[charred jetty]

oh yeah big MP

but needs enough to negate enough of her damage that team doesn't die in 1 shot

[teal wigeon]

am i actually supposed to do 18k diamonds for 30 wishes?

[hasty flax]

Do you know specifically what number? I frel like my velu aint veluing

[charred jetty]

which is probably still high MP

[craggy oak]

i think it was fine 3.3M MP or 4MP

misha also helps a lot prolly

[upper acorn]

[charred jetty]

a good way to check is fine someone's trishea who is 409e80

[olive jewel]

also depends on other sources of MP than colls

[charred jetty]

and look at how much MP they have

[hasty flax]

I have a 5m mp coll

[charred jetty]

and then calculate how much MP you need for velu to negate that

are you using flight?

[craggy oak]

so velu wei should work pretty decent then

[hasty flax]

Yup

[charred jetty]

what

[hasty flax]

The wei I dont have, and will never have

I assume the mp thing works on cr? The rounds ive used her i do like 20b dmg and never hit rng

[cinder zealot]

Wei hate

[olive jewel]

what investment is your velu?

[hasty flax]

409 e62

[olive jewel]

idk where your issues could possibly be from then

[hasty flax]

I’ll see next time we gotta use her again IG

[tepid totem]

kraken much

[coral sandal]

is Rowan worth to use, or just swapt to other usefull hero? like Lyca, Atheus......

[charred jetty]

rowan is not good anymore

or rather the investment needed to him usable is not worth it anymore when we have so many better options

[coral sandal]

ty mate.... i think i can swap to other tank/support, as Light bringer i do not have any dps for tower

[solar fractal]

Whel

[upper acorn]

r u jealous

u sound jealous

[solar fractal]

Very

[upper acorn]

cant u just push in your main

[olive jewel]

looking like we are going to bed with 272 unbeaten

[hasty flax]

Push my campaign uwu? Wat teams do you use

[olive jewel]

at least I broke into t2000 today

[upper acorn]

im running these

no rng comps so its stable pushing

t4 is just whatever. Wawkes + Elth + Pony is disgusting

[solar fractal]

Power cap

[upper acorn]

oh u kraken boohoo

how are you pcapped at ch55

[solar fractal]

Low rc

[upper acorn]

follow the footsteps of fakie the goat

[wanton lodge]

=rift

[gilded sapphire]

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[unreal apex]

Is the key breakpoint randle/misha si 40 or an e60 or a combination of all?

[tepid totem]

30930 randle 30960 mish (not sure if she needs e60 anymore)

[unreal apex]

I have misha def nodes and I thought her 60 was ass is the def beyond 60 key?

Also no furn dupes on her ig

[upper acorn]

whats the colls like on that comp

[unreal apex]

Fawkes attack mp Levi hp begis ty misha 4 def and randle just lvl 3 bounty

I have 0 good full attack bounties despite thousands of attempts

[upper acorn]

could be dps issue then yea. its definitely not randle or misha si40 or e60, but they can help

=ratio

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1365328577561886740/RDT_20250425_0707255117226094771476277.jpg?ex=680ce8d3&is=680b9753&hm=b814c2f065b318f58746e04bb4fa6e42892297e393fa95795bd0046ce5451d3b&

[unreal apex]

Mm yea I tried but I don't even get the kill with full attack watch or hp idk why

[unreal apex]

Yea I'll prob just tank another bad week then too resource poor atm and dims soon 😭

[upper acorn]

u could try the other variants... r u merc'ing kae/elth for r2 or what

[unreal apex]

Nah the kaleons get Merced too quick and the Elth col was too small ill try again next lol

Serious kaleon shortage atm

[upper acorn]

indeed and Elth is hard to come by as well

u could merc a bigger misha/randle and test it out before getting si40/e60

[unreal apex]

Just need to rank well for the hb cards 💀

[unreal apex]

I'll see what I can manage appreciate the help

[upper acorn]

can lend u mine if u need them rn

but yea, gl man

[craggy oak]

@upper acorn seren pls

[upper acorn]

current coll fine>??

[craggy oak]

is it fatk storm?

[upper acorn]

its 3m atk +2

this my best fatk

[craggy oak]

that works

[upper acorn]

sent

[wicked plume]

how does this dim exchange event work? how many puzzle pieces do you need to get each hero?

[craggy oak]

ty

[upper acorn]

=newdims

[gilded sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/1364835887493677108/new_dim_exchange_format.png?ex=688a56b9&is=68890539&hm=6a8ebeeadd29b121fdcc3f8d8df2983c0b5ab7e8e69b43f8964b7e9ae94c55e6&

[upper acorn]

u need all 60

[signal stream]

@oak stirrup begris pls 🙏

[oak stirrup]

@signal stream Elthara which collection?

[signal stream]

holup

I need it for nc so whatever u used for it

[oak stirrup]

I don't think I used her for NC ever since last R1 ended

[signal stream]

MP or ERS based on guide

[oak stirrup]

MP only got +2/3MP so up to you

Don't think it will be that much different honestly

[wicked plume]

ah thank you. If I have more guild/hero coins than needed for the x10 chest shards for both dim heroes, can I use the excess on garrisonning? Or should I still save them

[upper acorn]

u can yea

[signal stream]

So like I cant do anything r2 with kae or elthara?

[inland gale]

So many krakens in chat today

[turbid spade]

@oak stirrup you can beat scars❤️

[oak stirrup]

Do anything? I think whoever gets their hands on Kaelon just use Kaelon for 7.77-sub 9

[tepid totem]

nice

[hasty flax]

i mscared

[tepid totem]

kraken

[turbid spade]

Someone quick hit late

[upper acorn]

=tree

[gilded sapphire]

Priorities for Elder Tree

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/994914542440173688

[tepid totem]

@turbid spadedo u know anyone who has a kaelon or elthara or begris for next nc

[turbid spade]

Yes

[hasty flax]

@drifting hemlock wanna hit cr

[tepid totem]

@turbid spadewho

[turbid spade]

@tepid totem this?

5 ty

[tepid totem]

what about kaelon or elth

[hot iron]

What should I do now who do I upgrade?

[turbid spade]

Ye hes got them aswell

[tepid totem]

cool i'll try asking from him sometime

[upper acorn]

? just play the game

[hot iron]

Idk which hero is the best tho

[craggy oak]

=guide

[gilded sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/1430821399219535984/image.png?ex=68fd2604&is=68fbd484&hm=b53ff1d8e5b2c0408021ed3436a01af19d9f2de313884c4070fd03025966d814&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=969&height=999

[upper acorn]

doesnt matter. you wont get punished severely for not upgrading who is best. Anything works in this game, just in varying degrees. Looks like you already read that guide anyway, just apply the stuff there

[hot iron]

Okay thanks for the help

[open oyster]

anyone got elthara i can merc

[hasty flax]

i just hit 219 b no worries

[dire loom]

Is she good ?

[solar fractal]

No =te

[gilded sapphire]

Woke Prios and TE income:

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1255522091650781284

[upper acorn]

only got A chef

[upper yarrow]

Hi can you tell me Where you get that pls

[upper acorn]

special events and NC 35% rank and higher

could also buy them from shops

anyone got that DI income image?

[brittle warren]

Anyone able to lend DGwyn elthara or kaelon rn?

[upper acorn]

they're either lent out already or dont lurk in this channel

[brittle warren]

Rewind Simona I guess? For cores from her nodes

[oak stirrup]

Gosh your pic is such a mess you should sort them by engraving or something

[tepid totem]

nice

[open oyster]

[upper acorn]

if thats your best then yea

[tepid totem]

what does snickerfang do

[signal vortex]

Friendly reminder not to +40 Envy

[open oyster]

gib me elthara plss

[signal vortex]

Friendly reminder to merc me your 5036e100 kaelon

[open oyster]

wow mean...

[signal vortex]

Ill take the 209e30 nara in illusory

[hexed kayak]

im guaranteed both right

[open oyster]

with the chests yeah

[signal vortex]

How about I mog you instead

[open oyster]

i been slacking on illusionary

[hexed kayak]

they are being fed 2 ascendeds immediately lol

i have a feeling these two are good

[signal vortex]

You're bad at feeling things

[open oyster]

they are being fed 2 5 stars. I have a feeling that saitama is the only good one though

[hexed kayak]

i mean thats the rule with dims right one is broken the other isnt

surely she is better than lady simona (who im feeding to her)

[upper acorn]

ur the one with the test acc here hat

[signal vortex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/686825596839264329/1448999884303761499/StinkyTyping2.gif

[upper acorn]

Hi omega

[signal vortex]

🪱

[upper acorn]

does blue get no slowmode

or are you still mortal

[signal vortex]

no we also get to use outside emojis without boosting

[waxen marten]

Who is the first I should stargaze? I just unlocked it

[tepid totem]

@upper acornwow

[signal vortex]

@upper acorn what hat said

[upper acorn]

=sgprio

[gilded sapphire]

Stargazing Priorities:

#994913771598389318 message

[upper acorn]

oh so it has its perks. Can u put a good word for me for CS or Blue? thanks bud I know u got my back

[waxen marten]

I cant see it. It just says unknown

[upper acorn]

click it. =unknown

[gilded sapphire]

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[upper acorn]

its not a vbucks scam

[hexed kayak]

after i get the tatsu and saitama chests i start garrisoning shuna right

[waxen marten]

Oh okay

[hexed kayak]

these two are dmg so rem not as high prio since i also have elth

[waxen marten]

No no it definitely is

[upper acorn]

heh, you got us. this server is actually just a crypto/vbucks/robux scam

[signal vortex]

I dont think mei likes you

[waxen marten]

Is one copy of Daemia really that great?

[upper acorn]

they're untested in camp and their kit doesnt seem like its for pve content, but if u can keep them alive im sure they'll do something. Just dont expect much from the 2

[upper acorn]

it barely has any uses, but its great on paper

she can boost your damage in bosses, but thats about it

[waxen marten]

So I should get her 1 copy before Knox?

[upper acorn]

nope

[hexed kayak]

so should i garrison shuna or rem first based on that

[waxen marten]

What even is Knox good for

[upper acorn]

everything. every mode

[signal vortex]

idk

[upper acorn]

omega farming exp

[signal vortex]

Are you saying that Im farming xp or that someone is farming a lot of xp?

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[upper acorn]

if its as you say that you are set for 2 teams, you still have to get Rem for 3t/4t/5t. Shuna has a subs, Rem also does, but shes a carry so

[upper acorn]

ur not doing much contributing bud

[pulsar marlin]

Don’t take ts too seriously, min maxing only really matters if ur on a region split

[upper acorn]

this or TS?

im gonna assume the latter based on the context

[signal vortex]

Yea you're right it should be changed to Contributed, but atleast I've ever contributed anything here unlike you bud

[upper acorn]

blue is for nerds, and artsy ppl like Ish

so what im saying is - ur a nerd bud iim not

[signal vortex]

You literally just asked for blue not but 10 mins ago bud

[hexed kayak]

yeah im in 33-4 so my 2 teams are fine i need a third

[upper acorn]

yea without doing the contributing part, I just want the role

[signal vortex]

Here you basically say the role itself is for nerds

[upper acorn]

u got me bud

[signal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[upper acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-catstor-gato-castor-cerebrito-sabiondo-gif-12002557139688614332

[inland gale]

since when were you blue

[signal vortex]

9/17/2025

[upper acorn]

how does bud know this

[inland gale]

Euphy was right

Nerd

[upper acorn]

ikr, such a nerdy knowledge

[signal vortex]

you get it through modmail, you can check the date on the day you got it lol

[upper acorn]

excuses nerd

[signal vortex]

you're mother

[upper acorn]

yor*

[pulsar marlin]

Ye if ur not on a region split and u just started min maxing wont make too much of a difference

[signal vortex]

ur'e an idoit

[upper acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-yor-forger-yor-spy-x-family-yor-gif-9257090568996937621

[upper acorn]

yea true, but it can get the snowball going as to when the region does split, only slightly though

[pulsar marlin]

Like when r52 and r53 split

That was prob one of the most dogshit split

Unironically r52 harder then a lot of regions

[signal vortex]

lmao

[pulsar marlin]

Totally not biased

Totally not salty that 95% of r52 went skylan first dragon

[upper acorn]

we got older bud, we dont care about region stuff anymore... no more complaining about our region being harder than the other

now its the job of the young uns

[pulsar marlin]

Ig unless we get another nc region split

It makes more sense to go skylan first dragon

Since ur gate kept the shit out of nc now

[upper acorn]

yea those guys cooked their NC lmao

[queen edge]

if i already have two copies of Athoran can i pull with 400 TE

[upper acorn]

u can if ur feeling lucky

[pulsar marlin]

Not just that, nc in general is cooked as fuck

[queen edge]

i did this

[upper acorn]

how so? Lan only impacts 1 round and Sky is usable in NC now (provided u have 1 elth)

[pulsar marlin]

To even begin nc rn, you need: westie, envy, sion, belgris, wawkes, wath/fat Wei

Belgris is the big one

[queen edge]

what is fat wei

[solar fractal]

A hero that isn’t needed in nc

[pulsar marlin]

It’s for high end clears

[solar fractal]

He’s not bis??

[pulsar marlin]

R6 can be cleared with envy dgwyn Wei or wawkes

[pulsar marlin]

He isn’t, but he’s a hero that can clear

[solar fractal]

He’s the worse one

[upper acorn]

ur better off just merc'ing a dgwyn yea. Wei is the slowest out of all r6 carries

[pulsar marlin]

My clears are scuffed as shit and I have decent box

Also no Marci+laios automatically means ur fucked

[upper acorn]

Casual would like to have a word with you

[solar fractal]

Not true

[queen edge]

i can’t even clear more than 4 💔

[upper acorn]

ttue/rue

[pulsar marlin]

[solar fractal]

[upper acorn]

same bud, I have a 2 year old acc and I have 4k

[pulsar marlin]

Dw I had to sniff some copium to clear 6

Like sjw r3

[solar fractal]

11s with big pony 15s with panda and hella small tree and you get get t200 even if you get 15s in that round

[pulsar marlin]

[queen edge]

i’m missing begris, lan, gorok, and velu

which all seem to be very important

[pulsar marlin]

Bud is talking t200 when I don’t even have di income yet

[solar fractal]

If you can’t it’s skill issues

[upper acorn]

💳 issue

[pulsar marlin]

Ye we should be like casual, just whale to t200

[solar fractal]

[upper acorn]

https://mudae.net/uploads/4940351/MIe3OES~qbplSQB.gif

[pulsar marlin]

I don’t think you can sniff any more copium then this

[oak stirrup]

What is this some challenge to see who can go slowest?

[upper acorn]

6k in 5m in 2026? what a loser

[oak stirrup]

Like dude who are you even using as merc

[pulsar marlin]

Wawkes

I don’t have Marci for r4

[oak stirrup]

Why the hell would you even use Fawkes in NC

[pulsar marlin]

Bud I can’t kill r6 otherwise

[oak stirrup]

Use your own Envydiel

[pulsar marlin]

Then r2 goes to shit

[oak stirrup]

Use what's his name uhh Kaelon

[pulsar marlin]

And envy doesn’t kill either

[oak stirrup]

It's like you know, even fellow top 100 TSers are built differently, like the defective bunch vs the working bunch in quality control

[pulsar marlin]

It’s coping on 1 ty belgris

Bud the insane amounts of cope I have to jump through to make 1 ty belgris work there is unbelievable

You deadass can’t compete in nc anymore

Why would you even go lan

[oak stirrup]

Begris is not the only problem you face when you don't even have decent tree level

Even with 5TY you will struggle

[cobalt abyss]

you just gotta believe enough

[pulsar marlin]

With 5 ty im pretty sure envy could kill

Otherwise u have to stick with wawkes

[oak stirrup]

Get one and prove it

[pulsar marlin]

Bud casual is the only one I know and his belgris is uh

[oak stirrup]

Oh wait, can kill =/= can compete

[pulsar marlin]

Bud I gave up competing in nc

The next boss gonna be another coll check

[river shuttle]

Bro is tryna hit the max time

[deep nova]

I always dream for a collab with Clash royale, want my mega knight on afk arena

[oak stirrup]

Oh nice my first two SI from this stupid dog mode all went to Scarlet

[pulsar marlin]

W

I still didn’t hit si yet

[pulsar marlin]

Bud try doing nc with 1 ty belgris and small tree

You will be surprised at the amounts of cope you have to sniff

[river shuttle]

This is the best ty i have

[pulsar marlin]

Now downgrade ur tree

[charred jetty]

That’s some bannable rng right there

[oak stirrup]

I dare you

[charred jetty]

Hero rng doesn’t matter

It all equalizes in 280+

Because it costs as much as E+ to A as A to 1*

But sig rng can’t really be caught up

So winners would be people with best sig rng

[grave hollow]

ye my isabella got a SI+2 btw

[charred jetty]

And RC, but RC costs so much that it also normalizes

[river shuttle]

@charred jetty where do i put my two choose si

[charred jetty]

I just did scarlet and dae to +0

[pulsar marlin]

When do u get furn

[charred jetty]

My rng not super good

[charred jetty]

352

Myu is about to get furn

[river shuttle]

I have scarlet alr

[charred jetty]

Just get dae and save then

I think best sig is probably scarlet

2nd best might be vurk

Vurk is very strong at +40

[river shuttle]

Should i get vurk and dae then?

[pulsar marlin]

Who’s si is windcleaver

[bold igloo]

is there a guide for who to si30 after ivan?

[oak stirrup]

After Ivan everyone walks their own journey, no more kindergarden

Generally you want to go for the meta for whatever competitives you're after, Knox SI40 is an example

[ancient dock]

Chat how can I clear this stage

[solar fractal]

cw62lx3z

[pulsar marlin]

Damn peaking cr as well

[vivid wolf]

[muted anchor]

Whel

[solar fractal]

Sez you Mr 7s r2

[cobalt abyss]

Thanks for the code goat

[inland gale]

tried this, it came up with a pop up that says insert cc info here, just send a pic of the front and back thanks

[muted anchor]

How did you do on the smol acc this week

[solar fractal]

No t200

[muted anchor]

Well get em next time

[solar fractal]

Hopefully when I get a better TY coll

[muted anchor]

Oh ye cant merc begris and kae same time

[solar fractal]

Cuz r6 is already hell with no Levi and it’s rng

[muted anchor]

Hey at least you have haelia :despairge:

[solar fractal]

All other rounds are good tho

[solar fractal]

[muted anchor]

[lament torrent]

=earlycamp

[gilded sapphire]

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[lament torrent]

=earlymulti

[gilded sapphire]

Early-Multicomp Campaign Guidelines

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[slow jay]

I have eight copy of Bronn, could I grit him to Randle? because I only got 3 copies of Randle so far

[river shuttle]

You could do that

[uneven veldt]

Code?

[slow jay]

thanks

[wicked plume]

Recommendations on who I should grit my Shemiras into?

[solar fractal]

Yes

[wicked plume]

is it for everyone?

[solar fractal]

No

You have to get t200 nc and 10% cr for it to work

[unique steeple]

Yall how much engraving does gorok need

[unique steeple]

Hey goat I ended up top 4.5 percent 😔

Tbf I’m about to give up on reaching top 100 atp

[tepid totem]

shit 4.5% in nc?

[unique steeple]

In ts

He was helping making teams but my luck sucks lol

[tepid totem]

nice i got 4.99%

[unique steeple]

😭

[unique steeple]

We cooked

Why?

[unique steeple]

Anyone know ?

[solar fractal]

30

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-annoyed-waiting-gif-11694033491179866306

[unique steeple]

Are u telling me to quit 😞

I have already been almost a year in lmao

[unique steeple]

What do u think dawg

[hexed kayak]

celes and hypos are fine to ascend cus they dont eat fodder right?

[slow jay]

is this thing one time claim? or I can claim locked things after reach chapter requirement?

[upper acorn]

yes to the latter

[upper acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/foxiekt-never-back-down-never-what-never-back-down-foxie-gif-7503522361632951553

[slow jay]

ok thanks