Palmer?
#classic-chat
sharp fjord
Numisu
sharp fjord
Tbf does he have any good use?
wispy jolt
which one is better
proper monolith
which one is better
Albedo is a very decent heroes as she just empowers dim heroes in gen, but Shaltear is the only "new" hero, so she might be the only one that will change some meta teams, probably mainly PvP but we'll have to see
kind vessel
Basically the only good options are Shalltear only if you've only saved enough for 1
Or Shalltear + Albedo if you've saved up enough for 2
Because Albedo & Ainz already exist in garrison there's virtually zero downside of getting them later
wispy jolt
im a new player i dont have either
fallen tulip
What artifact to use with shalltear?
kind vessel
Albedo and Ainz already exist in garrison so there's zero benefit to exch other than someone's specific obssession
civic iris
anyone knows when this game give summon scroll ? i keep clear 3- 12 but not much reward
austere temple
What artifact to use with shalltear?
Prob a decent coll, or chaos bringer. Eye might work, we don’t know yet
cloud void
buy her
tepid epoch
happy new year dorks
tepid epoch
is this the hokey pokey you are doing
onyx oar
Ngl the lightbearing gunslinger kinda creeps me out
wispy jolt
=guide
gentle bramble
any word on the bugged chat font?
languid cedar
bugged? us old people need it like that to see
gritty vine
Guys, can someone help me? I had to repair the game and now I can't log into my account.
west mapleBOT
Hi, @gritty vine!
If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in . If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help
hexed glen
Hi, <@1256575785293054034>!
If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in . If you ...
What is bro yapping
proper monolith
Guys, can someone help me? I had to repair the game and now I can't log into my ...
Send support a message from a new account
They’ll help you
obsidian jewel
I absolutely love dimensionals on the classic server but it is cool how they did it on companions
cinder orchid
which one is better
how you already get that?
wispy jolt
how you already get that?
wym
cinder orchid
I'm still on the 59day waiting period
wispy jolt
lol
dusky latch
which awakened should i pull first please ?
safe panther
Making progress.
A yellow glow instead of purple at Dragonheart Temple means you'll get Highborn Draconis!
onyx oar
Omg this guys bullying me
safe panther
Oof.
hybrid hare
Rip. I wish they’d cap the amount of times the same person can challenge you in succession
lofty pecan
which awakened should i pull first please ?
Ezizh
dusky latch
👍
midnight forge
Really boring dimentionals this time.
near cedar
Really boring dimentionals this time.
Every dimensional is boring 
midnight forge
Every dimensional is boring <:homegalul:646471490560196609>
No i like the Collabs. But bringing out old dimentionals just by putting a new character in.
It's almost worthless for the people who got them already.
near cedar
It's almost worthless for the people who got them already.
Well it's not for those who got them already it's for those who don't have them 
midnight forge
Well it's not for those who got them already it's for those who don't have them ...
That's why old players should get some compensation. I aint being greedy it's just fair trade. I've lost my interest for this game for the lack of new ideas.
midnight forge
Aint everyones😂
lost badger
Hi what's this new server im back to game and don't know haha
idle walrus
Omg this guys bullying me
retaliate
hearty cosmos
Rem and emelia still on my garrison. Should i put my resources to get albedo and ainz? But if i do that i wont ret rem and emelia this month? What should i do?
near cedar
Aint everyones😂
No, I use lvl 61 resonating crystal in chapter 37
sacred forge
Last copy I needed to get her to Ascended 😭🔥
obsidian jewel
Aint everyones😂
Mine isn't
obsidian jewel
Rem and emelia still on my garrison. Should i put my resources to get albedo and...
Are you playing on getting all three of them
@hearty cosmos regardless you should be able to get enough resources where you'll have an overflow in your mail bag where you'll be able to buy dimensional Stones so you can still Garrison Rem Emelia
Just remember when there is 7 days left before the exchange opens don't mess with your resources in your mail bag
You're going to want that to grow it will help you get all three of them free to play
severe eagle
guys
shalltear, albedo or ainz
torn steppe
guys
shalltear, albedo or ainz
Shaltear
The rest you can garrison slowly
Ainz is useless
severe eagle
Shaltear
what are the stronger rare characters
like the tier list of all rare charcters
torn steppe
what are the stronger rare characters
Rare rarity hero's?
I dont understand your question
severe eagle
Rare rarity hero's?
yes
severe eagle
All useless lol
yes but which are better than the other...
bright spire
Mirael can be used as a carry for the first 5 chapters or so
Beyond that all rare heroes are completely useless
Except for that one bug in CR using that wilder crossbow rare
tame blade
what are poe coins for?
bright spire
Furniture
tame blade
ok thx
severe eagle
Mirael can be used as a carry for the first 5 chapters or so
ohhh thank you
spice spindle
like the tier list of all rare charcters
=guide
minor oriole
Ainz is useless
Ainz isn't useless. He's the speedrun king
1 ult, game over saves your time too
As chapters go higher, it becomes 1-2 ults which is still fast
torn steppe
It's a waste of resources if you invest in rem instead you'd get farther faster overall
torn steppe
<:ainzenrage:788651144753971200>
😆
safe panther
I need to get rid of Rem. If I could.
torn steppe
I need to get rid of Rem. If I could.
Why do you dislike her that much lol
safe panther
Boring design.
near cedar
Is swapping wukong for twins a bad idea?
near cedar
I need to get rid of Rem. If I could.
A fellow Rem hater let's go
safe panther
Is swapping wukong for twins a bad idea?
Yeah. There are better options.
near cedar
Yeah. There are better options.
Like who?
safe panther
Daemia and Liberta for examples.
near cedar
Daemia and Liberta for examples.
So like only those two cause I have them built
safe panther
There are also Lavatune and Aurelia.
near cedar
Any others?
torn steppe
Is swapping wukong for twins a bad idea?
Definitely never a bad swap lol
near cedar
Definitely never a bad swap lol
Mine are pretty dismal at e+
And I have other players told me you should build them
torn steppe
And I have other players told me you should build them
Yeah them surviving is very big for almost everywhere their used ahaha
near cedar
Yeah them surviving is very big for almost everywhere their used ahaha
Yeah that's why I was thinking about it
At e+ they just die
tidal coral
Why is there two server ?
near cedar
Why is there two server ?
Because there are two game modes
near cedar
Pippa is actually usable in a non Thoran team change my mind
abstract roost
what gear type does the new dim girl use
wicked knot
str gear
kind vessel
Restarting is unironically OP
somber valley
I thought my account was cooked...
(tbh 95% of my investments were passion investments so..)
solid junco
Should i restart? i just came back
yes, there's nothing good anyways
gleaming orchid
yes, there's nothing good anyways
ouch, lol jk. alr ty
solid junco
you will have better account after literally two months, don't feel bad about restarting
stable bane
aint cecilla good?
its been like two years after not being on afk arena, and I had to restart bc I lost my original acc
kind vessel
Ceci's been ass for the last like 3yrs
kind vessel
Long time ago she wasn't useless for fac tower but you don't build anything for that
lofty pecan
When we are going to get hero swap event?
kind vessel
Probably at anniv in like april or may (forgot which month it is)
normal inlet
What’s the ideal unit from these 3
safe panther
How did you get the chest?
Shalltear or Albedo probably.
Finally got another pet to level 18.
fleet orchid
How did you get the chest?
Companions gave all 3 dims away for free
safe panther
Oh nice!
cloud void
damm classic gets the short end of the stick
tacit nexus
damm classic gets the short end of the stick
as always
cloud void
😠
obsidian jewel
How did you get the chest?
That's how you get the dimensionals on AFK arena companions
safe panther
They should bring that over to Classic.
obsidian jewel
damm classic gets the short end of the stick
Not really because in companions you still have to use food
safe panther
In fact, why not merge Classic and Companions?
Even the producer letter mentions the possibility of backporting Companions improvements to Classic.
bright spire
In fact, why not merge Classic and Companions?
Point and laugh everyone
safe panther
Imagine if we get Companions pet system in Classic.
bright spire
Public outrage
obsidian jewel
Imagine if we get Companions pet system in Classic.
That would be awesome
safe panther
Easier to upgrade the pets.
cloud void
they will do it
obsidian jewel
But some of the stuff they have over there in companions I don't like
bright spire
Companions pet system is horrible
cloud void
we're due for another powercreep
safe panther
In Companions, instead of pet levelling in a painful way, you ascend pets of the same type.
bright spire
It’s pets combined with colls with RNG ascension
safe panther
You get some choices in pulling pets, thus you have a bit of control.
bright spire
Somehow I can imagine you’d still complain even if they implemented all your suggestions.
safe panther
Nah lmao.
Plus ascended pet background/border looks nice.
I suspect those exist in the files even in Classic but unused.
obsidian jewel
It’s pets combined with colls with RNG ascension
It kind of reminds me of Ulala
safe panther
Also when will they backport the new hero animations from Companions over to Classic?
Nemora, Brutus, and Shemira in particular.
obsidian jewel
But my biggest problem is I don't like the way you have to build the dimensions on companions
They're not linked heroes
safe panther
The upside is not needing to fuse.
I'd like to see a choice to allow you to ascend a dimensional instead of fuse, to truly have an unfused, 5* dimensional.
This would essentially free up a fused hero.
obsidian jewel
The upside is not needing to fuse.
You have to get dimensional food heroes from a special summoning and stargazing
safe panther
Oh that.
obsidian jewel
It's a cool concept if they keep the dimensional food heroes in the stargazing
If they keep it where you can summon for the dimensional food heroes from the stargazer I won't have a problem with it
safe panther
Could definitely add the ascension materials through stargazing and they'd be off wishlist so you're kind of getting them passively while stargazing for celestials and hypogeans.
obsidian jewel
I play MLA and that's how they do their collab units pretty much but after the collab event is over with you have to get these stones to upgrade the collapse
safe panther
Long-term, you probably would no longer need a hero fused.
safe panther
Doesn't look too bad.
burnt coral
serene atlas
Maybe it's time to return to this game
got more pcreeps in it
u can try it and decide 
cloud void
because theyre whales
tall thistle
because theyre whales
near cedar
because theyre whales
Skill issue?
lavish verge
got more pcreeps in it
u can try it and decide <:astarnomnom:987530465089028187>
will see
serene atlas
will see
give it a try
some rly enjoying it after coming back afterall
i enjoy pve more in general so prob also y less bothered by most stuff
languid cedar
Campaign 
bright spire
im just doing it to try campaign again
I did the same, even tho I quit for like 3 months 
Game still fun! Just very different from how you would remember.
serene atlas
im just doing it to try campaign again
its actually fun
campaigning rn lol
i like it whenever they drop difficulty
versed flower
Who should I build awakened first - gavus, Lucius, safiya, eiron, ezizh or thoran
versed flower
Ye
versed flower
Lol I don't know how to answer the second question
versed flower
But I have shem, Belinda, a Thalia, uuhhhhh the fuckin... Archer rabbit, and talene and swolise
serene atlas
like dat. ss from someone elses
serene atlas
older region means u got bigger roster
and likely cant compete in pvp modes if ur missing too much so gotta focus on what u can compete in which depends on what server ur on
versed flower
S355
serene atlas
nc out ts...iffy....cr do u play it?
id go with woke eironn prob
versed flower
Treasure scramble... What are the other two?
And yeah I get wrecked in PVP but fuck it I don't play that hard anyways
versed flower
Oh yeah I run them but usually hit gold. Sometimes diamond. I'm not worried about it though
serene atlas
what game mode do u enjoy then. build a woke that focuses on the part of game u enjoy
sand kettle
Looks like Aaron is the hottest wildest awoken e60 at the moment huh
Keep seeing them in afk stage comps
kindred mason
Dimensional unit who good Melu, Robin or king
torpid pivot
anyone know how to skip battles in peaks of time/wandering balloon?
storm tapir
Dimensional unit who good Melu, Robin or king
Robin has somewhat low usage now. Others have no use at all anymore.
languid cedar
anyone know how to skip battles in peaks of time/wandering balloon?
can’t skip battles where auto is an option iirc
torpid pivot
can’t skip battles where auto is an option iirc
I just watched a youtube tutorial and he just clicks a camp and then a chest spawns. No fighting needed lol
sharp hill
Might just be editing
kind vessel
Probably just editing yeah
torpid pivot
I see. Thank youuuuu
kind vessel
If you've got an AW like AwLyca or AwAtha the battles only take like 3s anyway
onyx oar
Hows this little shit a tank
meager stream
Hows this little shit a tank
she summons a big worm
when using the ult she heals the team
the worm can continue to fight even if she dies
lavish verge
@safe panther came back to the game, everything is so different
i don't even know any of these newer meta units
everyone using awakened belina and some shit
so much chaned in 2+ years
kind vessel
Fortitude is more of a class (for tree stats + coll) than the actual role of being a tank
sleek summit
still surprised lilith actually gave awaken chest
kind vessel
On average, a single AW selector chest is only worth ~1.5wks of routine TE gain (assuming a very conservative amount gained)
sleek summit
lilith has been releasing alot of awakens lately, in that case there will be more awakens rather than casual heroes.
either they should release awakens less often or give more permanent resources to gain time emblems.
torn steppe
lilith has been releasing alot of awakens lately, in that case there will be mor...
Not really
sleek summit
honestly, since we stargaze awakens when they get ascended, its just per awaken and celehypogean per build. There should be more ways to obtain diamonds or stargazing cards aswell.
bright spire
There has been no increase in woke releases lately
torn steppe
They realease em on schedule
kind vessel
2024 released the least AWs of any year
6 in 2022, 8 in 2023, 5 in 2024 (excluding HBs)
bright spire
Interesting
sleek summit
They realease em on schedule
2 months is still less for an awaken. it takes 3-4 months to finish one unless youre p2w.
kind vessel
They actively don't want f2ps to be able to get them all for their business model
bright spire
Yeah, but how would they gain money if f2p can get everything?
torn steppe
2 months is still less for an awaken. it takes 3-4 months to finish one unless y...
Correction * you can still finish em if you place decently
I havent spent in a year and im way more then caught up
And ik f2p friends who are just missing 1 or 2 awakened
bright spire
Correction * you can still finish em if you place decently
This, too. F2p account can maintain wokes on release from 5% CR and t50/t20 TS
kind vessel
Haven't spent in a year is a far stretch from being f2p
torn steppe
Haven't spent in a year is a far stretch from being f2p <:homegalul:646471490560...
Yes but its no extra income of cards from cash is my point
sleek summit
And ik f2p friends who are just missing 1 or 2 awakened
luck is included in that.its not nice when you only get one awaken in 50/60 pulls and always stuck in that rate. same for stargazing.
torn steppe
That's when I gaze 3 copies for 1 awakened from the star gazer
Kinda whale strat but some f2ps just lock in on one awakened and get em to 5*
torn steppe
4 knox in 220 pulls is just wild
That's impossible
fleet orchid
what is bro complaining about
torn steppe
Unless you counted some pulls after the last copie
kind vessel
4 in 220 is possible, it's 1/55 average
sleek summit
Unless you counted some pulls after the last copie
i didnt honestly.
kind vessel
It's just really awful luck
torn steppe
4 in 220 is possible, it's 1/55 average
With new rates I've never seen it go that high
And I play over 8 accs
kind vessel
That doesn't make it impossible
sleek summit
With new rates I've never seen it go that high
honestly previous droprates were better for me. Its just stabilized to 50 or more pulls atp
kind vessel
But realistically it'd be extremely rare to get a 1/55 rate
torn steppe
But realistically it'd be extremely rare to get a 1/55 rate
Way to rare
sleek summit
honestly idk atp, its just easier to finish awakens for me now
even tho 1 in 50 is still same for it
atleast its just 12 copies
torn steppe
But realistically it'd be extremely rare to get a 1/55 rate
And your rates will get alot better in like 200 pulls max
kind vessel
Just meant to say rare doesn't mean impossible, also don't need to @ every reply
torn steppe
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1310297525470892116.webp?size=48
Heya euphy
quartz jetty
As a new player, is it better to create an account on classic or companions?
west mapleBOT
Hello @quartz jetty,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the and #lineup-help channels.
fleet orchid
As a new player, is it better to create an account on classic or companions?
we here play classic so we'll obviously answer: Classic
quartz jetty
Thanks! Classic it is, is it better to create a new account or start from my 2 year old account?
muted loom
new
fleet orchid
restarting is OP
muted loom
but you can still run the 2yr ac
main cradle
is it good to play both classic and companion at the same time or is it better to focus on one
kind vessel
Up to you, they're totally independant of each other
lavish verge
@kind vessel what are the best heroes now in the game im lost
didn't play since 2022
proper monolith
aShemira Liberta Knox Aurelia/Desira Ivan/Lavatune aAthalia Jerome Palmer REM Misha Randle
Just to name a few
The thing nowadays is, you need to many heroes for different modes
It isn’t just campaign and TS anymore
fleet orchid
Desira?
lavish verge
aShemira Liberta Knox Aurelia/Desira Ivan/Lavatune aAthalia Jerome Palmer REM Mi...
jeeez
it's all awakened bullshit
im broke
sudden mason
What's the meaning of NC?
fleet orchid
Nightmare Corridor
sudden mason
Thanks 👍
main cradle
whats tge difference between the two servers?
iron goblet
how many dps/supports/tanks are needed for a good formation
kind vessel
1-2 dps and 3-4 supports
iron goblet
thx
kind vessel
That means supports as in buffers/debuffers/energy, it doesn't mean heal and it doesn't mean sustenance
iron goblet
I understand
kind vessel
sick glacier
Can I ask questions?
Can we get all of overlord hero free?
And can you please tell me about caps like arena coin etc…
kind vessel
You just need to save for Shalltear, can get Albedo or Ainz through garrison at your own leisure later (all without spending money)
sick glacier
Im trying to get shalltear atleast
And im already got ainz with garrison
So am I good or still need to grind?
What dimensional hero should I get? I mean not overlord hero
fleet orchid
Rem > Emilia > Shuna > Rimuru imo
sick glacier
Rem > Emilia > Shuna > Rimuru imo
Oh thank you
ionic trout
I swear to go this new accounts luck is insane...20 pulls from star gazing (just unlocked on this accoutn) and already an e+ lib
fringe dirge
ionic trout
From what I read it's likely liberta
solid phoenix
.
near cedar
Single stages are too easy
idle walrus
<@498037898612965408> what's up
wow hiii
lavish verge
H1
🌊
How so op
I seen you in the ranks somewhere
Everything changed in 2 years
I don't see anymore Mehira, Lucretia, Grezhul, Thoran etc etc teams
twin pawn
When does auto battle unlock?
dapper stone
When will ainz event come out again?
idle walrus
I don't see anymore Mehira, Lucretia, Grezhul, Thoran etc etc teams
mehira still used, lucretia is retired, grezhul still few bossing, thoran cheese is still
used in endgame
kind vessel
When will ainz event come out again?
Ainz and Albedo have permanently been added to the game ever since like 4yrs ago or so
lavish verge
mehira still used, lucretia is retired, grezhul still few bossing, thoran cheese...
All i see in formation replays in campaign is some random celestial, hypogean, awakened and new faction mfs
dapper stone
Ainz and Albedo have permanently been added to the game ever since like 4yrs ago...
I heard the event will come out again
idle walrus
All i see in formation replays in campaign is some random celestial, hypogean, a...
dragons are op
torn steppe
@lavish verge ramb
torn steppe
I don't see anymore Mehira, Lucretia, Grezhul, Thoran etc etc teams
Thoran got awakened
And hes still meta in pve
inner gulch
Thoran got awakened
Yeah but the rest are dead now
inner gulch
I wish for woke Lucretia, although I don't play anymore it'll still be good
inner gulch
I mean I use grezhul in hf
I use grez too, and normal thoran in pve, but their not as they used to be that's the point
Everyone is getting powercrept at some point
torn steppe
Yup
inner gulch
dragons are op
Unfortunately it's a bit limited for whales and those who catch up to the free copies
torn steppe
I remember when enemies taking 50% MORE DAMAGE was op lol
Every old hero is squishy
All new ones have alot of cheat death gimmiks
inner gulch
Since it's one HB per year and a half at max, and the elite dragons, lets say not all of them are worth it and it's a random wishing
lavish verge
Thoran got awakened
Zamn
karmic sedge
ew what happened to chat i set up small font but its big
onyx oar
GYAT
fast light
Hey
Which one should I pick?
I am a newbie player
Just finish the chapter 15
Level 54
RC 140 😅
onyx oar
Hey
Which one should I pick?
shemira
proper monolith
it was on the thing for afk pc
Looks like a mix between Shemira and walker 🙃
onyx oar
i mean
i wouldnt just trust my word at face value
prolly wanna check with an actual guy first
like
someone who actually knows what they're doing
onyx oar
thats probably fine tho
fast light
onyx oar
shemiras good
fast light
Should i use the time emblems on Shemira too ?
onyx oar
yeah you get chemtech soul
formal marten
Twitter
untold hazel
How relevant is Albedo today? And how does she perform against Atheus?
viscid vale
viscid vale
No, what's the woke team and what's the dragon team
fading plinth
in the guide
viscid vale
And where did dims get replaced
fading plinth
just buy the heroes, that's it
untold hazel
dim = dimensional, woke = awakened, dragon = draconis
Of course it did. 😦
viscid vale
How relevant is Albedo today? And how does she perform against Atheus?
Still somewhat relevant, not as prevalent before but still used very often in PvP
Atheus is more commonly used in PvE gamemodes like CR, campaign type modes and even NC sometimes
Can be used in PvP especially early on but less used once you get deeper
untold hazel
Atheus is more commonly used in PvE gamemodes like CR, campaign type modes and e...
Oh alright so Albedo is more for PvP then?
viscid vale
Yep
untold hazel
Alright. Thank you. :3
zinc sierra
Hey
Which one should I pick?
How to get this chest?
safe panther
How to get this chest?
Redeeming the code for the new year.
You get to choose one awakened.
safe panther
Last day of Chasmic 2 today! Sooner or later, the full campaign nerfs will be in place. 54-60 used to be level 1015, now down to lvl 915.
onyx oar
😈
fleet orchid
do it
fiery narwhal
Is there a guide for vault of time?
sand bane
sick glacier
Choose shalltear
tepid epoch
if all goes well, i should be in chapter 67 by next week
tall thistle
if all goes well, i should be in chapter 67 by next week
Lvl def shrinking by the minute
tepid epoch
yep
kind vessel
Chasmic reduction is huge
I was pcapped at 66-9 the other day but only 1 or 2 days later chasmic let me get to 66-37
wise fiber
never leaving my chapter cause background cute
tall thistle
never leaving my chapter cause background cute
Ch44?
tall thistle
is 44 the tree cause that was good too
Ye the pink tree, im on 63 rn so ig ill see when I get there
near cedar
chapter 37 is a pain
onyx oar
Oh shiiiit i forgot about king tower imma just do that
onyx oar
Bruh who is this bitch and where is ivan
tacit nexus
Bruh who is this bitch and where is ivan
Cc healer
onyx oar
That sounds dumb
She aint even on the personally curated wishlist i came up with myself
kind vessel
Was it from shards or cards, because those don't use wishlist
It's impossible to get non-wishlist from scrolls though (unless there's like slots empty or smth)
sharp fjord
I really wanna use walker for food. Should I do it?
tacit nexus
I really wanna use walker for food. Should I do it?
No, free tear
tidal pagoda
Hey im logging in after 479 days, how do I redeem a code again?
onyx oar
Was it from shards or cards, because those don't use wishlist
It's impossible to...
I was gonna say it was from scrolls but yh i think it was from the epic choice card dolly gives you
kind vessel
Yeah those don't obey wl unfortunately
solid junco
rip i failed
looks beautiful, imma stay there for a while
wise fiber
looks beautiful, imma stay there for a while
i've been here for like a year xd
solid junco
what rc? im always powercapped
wise fiber
1090
solid junco
Jesus..
wise fiber
solid junco
meanwhile I'm 650 
wise fiber
progression wise i should definitely not be here lol
solid junco
smoll rc
wise fiber
but they don't really give us much reason to climb campaign beyond a certain point
just some chapter rewards
solid junco
progression wise i should definitely not be here lol
yeah you can finish campaign probably
zinc sierra
Redeeming the code for the new year.
Thank you🥰
stable bane
I know that awakened Brutus is obviously strong, but what about base Brutus??
I don’t remember anything about him
serene atlas
both rnt strong fyi
solid junco
I know that awakened Brutus is obviously strong, but what about base Brutus??
both are rather on weak side
vast pike
what's the best AW tank?
im not even going to bother assensioning it
because the Legendary form is good enough
no need to waste hundreds of resources for no reason imma just get all AW heroes in their legendary form
whole lake
kind vessel
They're all ass at low ascension
vast pike
They're all ass at low ascension
litteraly no, especially AW shemira
all shes good for is giving second life to other champions anyways
and she does that no matter what ascension level she is
@kind vessel btw whats the diff between classic and companions chat? why cant this server just have general chat?
kind vessel
They're basically separate games
sleek summit
atheus honestly a good tank imo
kind vessel
AwShem does need A1 to be good too but you're probably getting confused by super early game campaign or smth
vast pike
They're basically separate games
which one am i playing?
kind vessel
How should I know
vast pike
How should I know <:homegalul:646471490560196609>
im playing AFK arena
kind vessel
They're on the same app but you choose which one you play at the start
kind vessel
Well companions didn't exist until 2024
wise fiber
if game doesn't look the same then game isn't the same
unless you don't remember how it ever looked
vast pike
Well companions didn't exist until 2024
wtf its a new game?
i want to try it out
what are the huge differences?
kind vessel
Can probably just ask the people in the companions channels ig
vast pike
if game doesn't look the same then game isn't the same <:areyouseirus:6639857544...
it legit looks exactly the same thats the pic ive took from #companions-chat
@kind vessel which one will give me more dopamine?
wise fiber
it legit looks exactly the same thats the pic ive took from <#126265332725947190...
either you're giga whale or you're on companions
kind vessel
Idk you can just play both
wise fiber
companion gives people a false sense of accomplishment by starting you out with more heroes
kind vessel
either you're giga whale or you're on companions
Companions you have to whale just to get SGs
vast pike
either you're giga whale or you're on companions
are u calling me fat
wise fiber
maybe
wise fiber
not really
wise fiber
it's easier to start
wise fiber
once you get to the mid point where game starts slowing, it's not that much different
vast pike
once you get to the mid point where game starts slowing, it's not that much diff...
whats mid?
20th stage on campaign?
wise fiber
idk, chapter 30 or so i guess
isn't ch20 like, one month
pretty sure i got to 19 or 20 in the one month trial
i guess we got more free summons in that than usual though
vast pike
isn't ch20 like, one month
tokk me few years
i am not going to rant again how dogshit the game actually is
wise fiber
i mean, ch20 in regular afk is also like one month or two
might actually be even faster now
so if it took you a few years...that might be your problem, lol
kind vessel
Ch30 is like a week these days
vast pike
i've been playing game since 2019 and i am on chapter 35 rn. Because the game is objectivelly dogshit
wise fiber
Ch30 is like a week these days
especially if you hopped in during rem lol, i think that whole batch of players got into ez mode
vast pike
so if it took you a few years...that might be your problem, lol
nope the game is bad
wise fiber
the game is mid, it's a mobile game idk what you're expecting
kind vessel
If you don't like the game then wouldn't you be happier playing something else
vast pike
the game is mid, it's a mobile game idk what you're expecting
im not expecting anything its a mobile game afterall
wise fiber
yeah lol
vast pike
just an cheap cashgrab
wise fiber
why would you retry something that brings you no joy hoping for different result
vast pike
i enjoy playing it
vast pike
yeah
vast pike
grinding for the new demential hero
doing arcane labyrinth
i have like 50/60 of the new demential hero
lavish narwhal
im new here what is the best faction shall i choose (wilders lightbarers ,....?
vast pike
im new here what is the best faction shall i choose (wilders lightbarers ,....?
don't choose best
choose coolest
which one does look best for you and most badass?
lavish narwhal
lighbarers tbh hhhhh
lavish verge
@idle walrus idk what to do errrrm
wise fiber
persona fan…?
prime isle
i've been playing game since 2019 and i am on chapter 35 rn. Because the game is...
you are simply bad then
vast pike
you are simply bad then
real
final current
Hello people a query, I do not know well the differences between the servers, I know that there is the classic and now there is a new one, someone would tell me the differences? also know if the classic servers are still opening new servers! thank you very much.
torn steppe
slightly tempted to just throw some pulls for Lavatune tmr <:kHAHAsos:6462055529...
Dewit
rancid garnet
Dewit
my box is eternal suffering for meta
cant even squeeze into any ranking any more
havent been doing the winter event
nor starzone
whoooops
torn steppe
Eternally ye
vast glacier
Support contact?
My account is bugged in the event mission, I can't advance, I need the game's support team, I've already sent a message on messenger and no one answered me...
tacit nexus
My account is bugged in the event mission, I can't advance, I need the game's su...
They don't give a f on fb
lavish verge
persona fan…?
Hell yeah
But I'd love some swap scrolls to try new things
Zolrath is nearly e5 5*
cloud void
@vast glacierhttps://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/441507755245961216
try this
spice spindle
<@498037898612965408> idk what to do errrrm
You playing again ramb?
cloud void
he picked the worse time to come back imo
opal kayak
Anyone willing to merc Skylan for CR?
tepid epoch
how excited are you guys for lunar new year
torn steppe
how excited are you guys for lunar new year
just exited for the eng reset lol
tepid epoch
pfftie
idle walrus
<@498037898612965408> idk what to do errrrm
umm all the new sp
rancid garnet
how excited are you guys for lunar new year
as dead as izold in meta tier currently 
slow charm
Shaltear 🫨
shadow rose
Hello, is it possible to get the old character of collaboration?
glad sand
I'm not even sure how or where Woke Errion would fit in this team
Or should I just leave him out?
west mapleBOT
Hello @fast light,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the and #lineup-help channels.
placid marsh
有人玩美服剑与远征吗，找个人一起玩组队服
strong sleet
This is hot
tall thistle
This is hot
rust player
opaque moss
Is there someone that can garrison Abel?
near cedar
Shaltear 🫨
You don't need Shaltear though
near cedar
Or should I just leave him out?
Need that e60 but he could probably replace misha, I did find him plus Tamrus is a good combo
formal jolt
hey is it worth it to exchange for shaltear, albedo, and ainz or should i only exchange shaltear and focus on using the garrison for shuna and rimuru
kind vessel
Best to just exch Shalltear
Because you can get Albedo+Ainz later and they're far less relevant than smth like Shuna or Rem
serene atlas
有人玩美服剑与远征吗，找个人一起玩组队服
这是经典服的频道，你到组队服的频道问问
pine idol
Hey, is there an up to date Beginner Guide somewhere?
placid marsh
美刀还是人民币？
个人是比较喜欢经典服。不过推荐买个号玩。更有意思点
刀
placid marsh
不用买什么超级大佬号
喜欢养号+前期踩头我是哈哈哈哈哈
serene atlas
喜欢养号+前期踩头我是哈哈哈哈哈
前期踩头只能卖号，花个三百左右买个新区区的高端号，
太久没出新区了所以开新号很难打上去
placid marsh
前期踩头只能卖号，花个三百左右买个新区区的高端号，
太久没出新区了所以开新号很难打上去
哦哦
sharp panther
What celestial should I get from the event?
placid marsh
前期踩头只能卖号，花个三百左右买个新区区的高端号，
太久没出新区了所以开新号很难打上去
哎
serene atlas
What celestial should I get from the event?
ask in #classic-questions
narrow socket
Hello!
tacit nexus
Not retired <:tidussnout:877581327447248896>
Yes
serene atlas
Dont play but not retired
obsidian jewel
Can somebody tell me what's the uproar about the new awoken hero fragment chest in SZ
This is the old chest
And this is what the new chest has in it plus what the old one has what's the big deal
tacit nexus
Dont play but not retired <:khasosrun:753008852093501440>
I still give shitty help
serene atlas
I still give shitty help
serene atlas
And this is what the new chest has in it plus what the old one has what's the bi...
U get both from rewards
Not just new one
obsidian jewel
U get both from rewards
Yeah I know I'm wondering why people are upset because the old one hasn't changed to the new one what's the big deal
serene atlas
Cause new one gets diluted lol
obsidian jewel
They don't need to upgrade the old chest people can just pop the awoken heroes and if they have to get some extra pieces from the new chest just do it is that a big deal
viscid vale
obsidian jewel
@viscid vale what you puzzled about
viscid vale
How you don't understand why people are unhappy
obsidian jewel
How you don't understand why people are unhappy
Okay let's say you have 10 old chest with the original awoken heroes you do realize you can get all 30 of those awoken heroes out of that chest without it having to be a whole hero right
obsidian jewel
It doesn't affect anybody
viscid vale
Let's say I have all the wokes in the original chest
Wtf am I supposed to do with them?
Chest becomes useless
obsidian jewel
Wtf am I supposed to do with them?
I don't know how about pop them get a couple more of the old heroes and then replace them in the rickety cart for another awoken hero after you get three of them
viscid vale
That's still inefficient and a waste
obsidian jewel
It's not a big deal
viscid vale
People want copies of the newer stuff
obsidian jewel
And they are in the new chest
viscid vale
But you get a mix of old and new chedts
So the old ones become useless
Whereas Lilith could've updated the old chests
Or just give the new chests
obsidian jewel
Why should something in your bag be upgraded
viscid vale
obsidian jewel
They change chest all the time and don't upgrade the old ones why should they
I'm pretty sure people still have awoken hero chest that had the original 5 in it should it be upgraded to the new ones when new or walking heroes come out
@viscid vale no what people should be complaining about is that you have to do at least four or five SZ to get enough chest to get one awoken hero
I would agree they need to change the RNG on how many chest fragment you get per SZ but no they don't need to upgrade your old chest in your bag to the new ones
wispy scroll
gentle bay
Let's say I have all the wokes in the original chest
If you have a 5* woke you can trade copies 3:1 for any other woke
(Doesn’t have to be of the same woke just 3 copies of any woke at 5*)
iron goblet
do campain got nerf?
spice spindle
do campain got nerf?
Yes
onyx oar
ITS TIME
safe panther
What the hell, how did whales even get 5T damage in circus? While I nearly made 100b.
Also now that Chasmic 2 is complete, there's quite the difference. Enemies at 54-60 are now lvl 911.
Time for me to do a BIG push. Now to see if I can make it to chapter 59!
onyx oar
Bruh
Why am i losing with rem
She was meant to be the pamacea
The one who is invincible under the sun
safe panther
Why am i losing with rem
Skill issue.
Rem is a glass cannon, which means she tends to die easily.
quick latch
ok bro
glad sand
Because you can get Albedo+Ainz later and they're far less relevant than smth li...
Albedo is a good buffer tho
onyx oar
YESSSSSSS
onyx oar
They say he good
near cedar
He is yeah
onyx oar
So thats why i want
ionic trout
Yep, getting the Radle to M+ was definitly the right call xD
vital spruce
yea he's a beast in campaign
ionic trout
yeah, my 6 day old account somehow managed to get to chapter 18 before getting stuck, just got m+ randle (before only had 1 copy of him) and now breezing through 18 xD
near cedar
How did you progress without Ivan
He wasn't around when I started, mainly a mix of heroes were used to carry me early on, later it turned to Swolis carry and kindof evolved to have more Awakened wilders
Now single stages are super easy for me
It's the 5 team boss stages that suck
These are in essence my teams but placement and heroes change at times
lavish verge
umm all the new sp <:talenerise:777566232571412520>
What 💔💔💔
lavish verge
You playing again ramb?
A little bit
spice spindle
Nice
near cedar
A little bit
welcome back
uneven arch
Bruh
slow charm
vital spruce
no, just get liberta from now on
inner gulch
Wait shit i was supposed to get liberta first?
Yeah it's fine since one copy of dae never hurts
Which you got dupe of
gaunt zealot
zinc sierra
Apparently it is possible to have both sides wiped out at the same time and win
west mapleBOT
Hi, @outer smelt!
If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in . If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help
safe panther
Why are enemy levels so odd?
cloud void
contact support
somber crescent
I love how dead this game is
safe panther
It is.
tall thistle
15m monthly players super dead
safe panther
Hmmmm what if they add Maple from Bofuri? Designed as Tank. An extremely OP tank. Turns all damage taken to 1.
The catch? Using her in PvP will disqualify you from winning.
near cedar
Apparently it is possible to have both sides wiped out at the same time and win
I'd enemy dies first it's considered a win, but there are instances where you still can lose even though you killed the whole enemy team
near cedar
what should i engraving now
Do Ivan or save but I would save
storm tapir
and why u think game is dead wtf
Many people wish the game would end since they either:
- Spend too much time on the game
- Spend too much money on the game
- Are too addicted to quit. (Sunk Cost Fallacy.
- Lack the willpower to control themselves in any of the preceding points
But the truth is, the game would likely outlast them easily. Arena isn't Lilith's only revenue stream. As long as Arena still has positive revenue, game servers will likely remain online.
sleek summit
srsly watching tasi breaking my thoran chase for 1 hour
strong sleet
rust player<:khasosrun:753008852093501440>
Finals player
tall thistle
Finals player
safe panther
And going to clear chapter 55 soon.
rancid garnet
@ misty - pushed Lavatune to M
safe panther
Gonna keep pushing until the enemy level reaches 999.
torn steppe
@ misty - pushed Lavatune to M <:kHAHAsos:646205552908566528>
ayyy
safe panther
So this is what end of chapter 56 looks like.
I probably assume there will be no new hero next update.
rancid garnet
ayyy
shld i just push him to 1star at this point
so he's reached the tier of "usable" after some long af weeks of waiting investment
safe panther
safe silo
Which one
cloud void
@safe pantherwhen do they get 9 furn i know they get 3 furn at 51
safe panther
<@937580403957575710>when do they get 9 furn i know they get 3 furn at 51
At chapter 52.
cloud void
so fast?
proper monolith
The catch? Using her in PvP will disqualify you from winning.
Nah if she gets hurts she dies immediately, 99% of damage will be tanked but if she gets hits she runs away
gentle igloo
Heyo people! Is there any guide available somewhere?
cloud void
read the pins in questions
onyx oar
Who should i pick? Ch16
prime plover
Who should i pick? Ch16
i would save this til u start summoning an ascended hero big time so the dopamine spike is bigger
🐓
delayed gratification
onyx oar
Well which one should i be summoning first
languid cedar
Well which one should i be summoning first
onyx oar
I asked earlier if i should get shemira but some guy said no and wouldnt answer when j asked who
Oh thanks
near cedar
Now 5 star him
safe panther
Nah, don't need stars for celestials and hypogeans.
near cedar
Well mine is 5 star 309e60 thinking about sig 40 and max furn on him
torn steppe
Who should i pick? Ch16
Ashem
onyx oar
Bruh
I alr got shemira
And thats what the guide said too
Oh
💀
Ashem
A
Shemira
austere temple
=ye
austere temple
The guide says aatrox after 1 copy shemira
Depends on where you are in the game
How’s your hero box looking
austere temple
How many boxes you have
austere temple
Go ashem
onyx oar
Like on my wishlist?
austere temple
Ye
onyx oar
The guide says you only need 1 ashem tho
austere temple
The guide says you only need 1 ashem tho
You didn’t read the entire guide
near cedar
Is alna worth putting t4 gear on
onyx oar
Where tf am i gonma get 200 emblems from tho
austere temple
It usually takes about 9 months to fully build woke
Unless ur spending on the game
glass star
@ misty - pushed Lavatune to M <:kHAHAsos:646205552908566528>
I'm almost there also
kind vessel
It usually takes about 9 months to fully build woke
Is that how slow it is for a newbie
It should be ~4 months per for a not new f2p with bad ranks
glad sand
Should I use my 60sg cards to continue drawing for A-Errion or use them on whatever celpo that's meta?
steep kindle
It usually takes about 9 months to fully build woke
It does not take 9 months 😭 I have 3 fully built wokes and i’ve been playing for 7-8 months
slow charm
It does not take 9 months 😭 I have 3 fully built wokes and i’ve been playing fo...
You got lucky brotha
tacit nexus
It usually takes about 9 months to fully build woke
Nope one year ago was only 6 months, after NC and various event it's a lot faster, and if you rank well in ts even less time
chilly granite
Started theory crafting and made a new perma cc team that seems to work pretty well.
steel island
Started theory crafting and made a new perma cc team that seems to work pretty w...
Saw a 4 man clear actually with zohra in my campaign
Try Zohra + Aeironn with some supports
chilly granite
Awakened or OG?
steel island
Awakened or OG?
Awakened
No clue if I can find the team
I need to update my name wait I pushed a lot
Think it was Tamrus Misha Zohra AEironn
I put in Nyla and made it work with L Zohra
chilly granite
Yeah that sounds like a stun fest
I gotta finish building my A Eirron
Its good to know that Zohra CC teams will work that far down the line.
west mapleBOT
Hi, @solar pond!
If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in . If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help
fleet orchid
You got lucky brotha
Nope. The almost 1500 TEs income per year doesnt take into account TEs from Faction Tower and Thrilling Voyage. New accounts can get a woke in 2-3 months not 4 months. That 4 months is only when you cant push towers anymore + if you're ranking bad in RGMs especially TS
Most of us f2ps (some low spenders) have 4/5 wokes in 1 year. Some are on course to get that - if they keep playing optimally for a few more months
proper monolith
Damn i have a 5 year old F2P account and I only have 8 awakened ascended and 4 mythical, I guess that’s pretty bad then if new accounts already got 5
No clue how long awakened heroes have been in the game, my guess is about 2 years?
boreal lodge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026610512223555624/1325616126616539276/2...
yooo how did you make that overview
boreal lodge
U can use it in my server
aigh I joined
crimson gyro
yooo how did you make that overview
😂😂😂
near cedar
Started theory crafting and made a new perma cc team that seems to work pretty w...
I can do it with this surprisingly (well not really
I guess the wu Kong did technically get one hit
lost tundra
shalltear is good and worth of get it?
stable bane
istg I hate Nara
fleet orchid
shy prism
so who is good out of the overlord characters because i know they got a buff i just dont know who to prioritize getting
languid cedar
so who is good out of the overlord characters because i know they got a buff i j...
classic or companions?
shy prism
classic
viscid vale
so who is good out of the overlord characters because i know they got a buff i j...
shaltear
the buff didnt change anything
very minor adjustments to a dead hero (ainz)
albedo is still decent though
shaltear looks to be promising pvp unit at least
shy prism
noted thanks
onyx oar
Yo bro, do you have L rizz? Nah i have
onyx briar
Is albedo or shaltear better?
olive blaze
Is albedo or shaltear better?
2 variant
storm tapir
You got lucky brotha
Yes, he got lucky, or spends a ton of time in the game, or is simply lying (Gosh, lying in public Internet forums, that doesn't happen right)
Many of those who say you can get 3-5 wokes per year w/o spending use the word playing "optimally".
This means min-maxxing, adjusting teams for all RGMs many times per day/week, grinding the first few days of the game, grinding anything they can, and spending hours in the game per day.
Although this is doable, it definitely is not for everyone (life priorities ahem). Majority of players don't even last a year playing the game every single day.
onyx oar
Wow now i feel a bit better about the gear on my heroes
Dude has purple gb nikes on his rem
kind vessel
Yes, he got lucky, or spends a ton of time in the game, or is simply lying (Gosh...
You can get 3 AWs per year f2p without getting any TE from ranks (assuming average luck)
But pushing that to 4/yr takes really good placement in CR & TS that's realisticallly unfeasible outside of being on specific servers (outside of getting lucky)
5/yr is either insane luck or someone lying about being f2p because they spent in the past but haven't recently
tepid epoch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026610512223555624/1325616126616539276/2...
that is the most ugliest awakened thane i've ever seen
i was still in high school senior year when the first awakened came out, so we are approaching its 3rd year since then
kind vessel
What year is senior year
wraith oriole
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026610512223555624/1325616126616539276/2...
Is that journey kiddy game version of Thane 
viscid vale
I love doing single faction clears
is that guild trials?
glass star
is that guild trials?
Yeah
viscid vale
she solos too 
glass star
I had one out of the 6 matches I had to move her around; it was the one with enemy mezoth
Nevermind, it was the enemy bronn
only one I lost and I just had to move them around to get it to work XD
boreal mulch
what could be a good replacement for Aerionn in TS?
kind vessel
Gotta run a diff comp at that point (actually ig in Blue the comp could end up being Mae Hypos or Mae Draconis instead but those are even more expensive than having AwEir)
gentle rivet
Hi all. Anyone else realised that we can't set specific collections anymore in formations? I can't see the collections choice button when editing old formations nor when creating new ones.
That would be highly annoying if we are unable to store formations with specific collections for upcoming AE...
Pretty sure it was still working during Hunting Fields - Beta Season.
whole lake
19 woke fragment chests
frigid grove
lavish verge
Damn i have a 5 year old F2P account and I only have 8 awakened ascended and 4 m...
all i got is 1* talene, L ezizh, L+ brutus + a copy
💀
gentle igloo
Hello people! Which server do you think is good starting? Classic or companion? I’m new.
west mapleBOT
Hello @civic scroll,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the and #lineup-help channels.
proper monolith
that is the most ugliest awakened thane i've ever seen
Haha it’s the art they released when thane came out
proper monolith
all i got is 1* talene, L ezizh, L+ brutus + a copy
Is that an old account that you came back to?
lavish verge
well yeah i started playing in 7/21/2020
retired in 12/15/2022
came back few days ago
lavish verge
i forgot what most heroes do tbh
proper monolith
Also understandable 😂
proper monolith
It most the heroes you know you can forget anyway
proper monolith
You need all the new heroes
lavish verge
the problem with this game and what made me retire is that u gotta keep up with everything
they might release this hero which is necessary to have
but only few months later a replacement and better version of it drops
can't keep up with that
proper monolith
Yeh
Well lately they don’t replace each other anymore cause we need 7 teams anyway
So if they release meta
They move to another team
If they are replaced so to speak
It isn’t just campaign and TS anymore
Those times were good times
lavish verge
and now cuz i haven't been playing for 2+ years, or 722 days as dolly says
so much changed
most heroes i have right now with me are unusable
they needa give me like 10 hero swap scrolls or sum
:P
lavish verge
<@498037898612965408> idk what to do errrrm
@proper monolith
proper monolith
<@248422253320994817>
Well your on an old server, without alot of heroes, at this point you just gotta build what you like
but save your diamonds for Dragon releases, so you can summon 300 times when the new dragon comes out
use time cards for Shemira>Athalia
and Stargazers for either Knox or Liberta&Lucilla
I'd start with Liberta, as its a DPS
lavish verge
im using time cards to get one more copy for brutus Mythic
proper monolith
why
lavish verge
i already got 6 furniture of him
proper monolith
brutus sucks
lavish verge
why
at that time he was kinda yk
_>
yeah ik
sucks i got all that furniture of him that ill never use
proper monolith
you will uyse it
with time
you can get free copies of brutus from Temporal rift
lavish verge
what about talene, is she half decent atleast
lavish verge
you can get free copies of brutus from Temporal rift
oh yeah i remember temporal rift, i hated it alot
proper monolith
Talene can be usefull if you have a whole meta team, but even then she kinda fell off from the meta
proper monolith
oh yeah i remember temporal rift, i hated it alot
same
but its free brutus+Solise copy
lavish verge
even before quitting i stopped doing it for some while
proper monolith
it got a bit better
lavish verge
but its free brutus+Solise copy
how long does it take to get that u think
and can i get more than 1 copy?
proper monolith
no 1 copy of each hero per run
lavish verge
hm
proper monolith
my Brutus and Solise are M+ and I have never summoned them through tavern
so all the copies are from there
proper monolith
the event is 90 days
with a cooldown of like a few weeks
so every 2 months you get a copy xd
proper monolith
ye
proper monolith
wait for the new hero to realese it will come wiht an event that gives like 4 free copies
if yuou can summon 300 times
lavish verge
I've been using a 30* e60 5* Draconus Gwyn from the trial and she's crazy
lavish verge
if yuou can summon 300 times
ain't that alot of gems? im kinda broke on gems in general lul
proper monolith
yes, but you are talking abotu Highborn, it will take like 2 years before you have enough cards to summon her
so in those 2 years there will be another highborn that will be better
proper monolith
ain't that alot of gems? im kinda broke on gems in general lul
ytou can alos use the cards
but I'd suggest you start saving
lavish verge
i see