In all seriousness
#classic-chat
wispy geyser
massive winrate
bright spire
209e41 is more than enough for Oden
tardy root
I have him on furniture list and his si30 is low prio for me anyways
bright spire
wout, I didn't use oden at all this TS :azor:
That’s no problem I have you blocked anyways
tardy root
Same
wispy geyser
my ashem cooked without him 
wispy geyser
That’s no problem I have you blocked anyways
I'll release the kitty hostages if u unblock
bright spire
tardy root
I started using him on awshem team instead of brutus lol
tardy root
Not even sure if it's better
wispy geyser
I had to keep watha in her for her to do well
it's all just watha support basically
bright spire
On the other hand, my Bert team did really fucking well
wispy geyser
well shit, I didn't expect this to happen
wispy geyser
that's the best team 
tardy root
wispy geyser
and this one is only 68%
tardy root
It performs about equally
bright spire
Hey I used something similar
tardy root
Maybe slightly better
tardy root
Hey I used something similar
Well she usually does plenty well in TS for me still
bright spire
Yup, I was surprised she only had 56% for me
tardy root
Just got f9 silas today, hoping it helps
bright spire
Now I do wonder
Does your Silas steal Ivan from aShem in normal battles?
Ivan can’t usually shield in ice of course
bright spire
Oh I thought that was only because of ice debuff
tardy root
No
bright spire
I was just wondering if you got cmbr issues from Silas engraving
tardy root
I might use ivan on awshem team on day 1
Nah I'm fine
Maybe when silas is full t4 I'll have issue
bright spire
Mostly looking at Atk here
tardy root
Ik
bright spire
That’s super close lol
tardy root
Ik how ivan works
Yeah
Glad I didn't go past e30 on silas ig
Could always engrave awshem atk
Kapp
bright spire
You made her e66????
tardy root
Yea
bright spire
How many cores is that?
stiff hinge
Do y'all think a mythic silas can help in gb tower? I need a healer
tardy root
1800
stiff hinge
I am at like 350 something
tardy root
I think
bright spire
So a bit cheaper than e41
bright spire
I don’t have anyone past e60 personally
tardy root
I got e81 emilia lol
bright spire
bright spire
The thing is, out of any e80 for TS Emi is probably one of the stronger ones
She’s probably the best hero to deal with kraken teams lol
tardy root
Yeah I'm okay with it xD
My emi team is ridiculously strong in TS atm
Compared to my others
bright spire
Are you going for furn dupes too?
bright spire
Understandable
tardy root
Yeah si46 is 140 whites
bright spire
New dims coming soon anyways 
bright spire
Do you not have enough white chests?
tardy root
Yeah I dont
tardy root
I wasn't particularly efficient with them when they came out cause I thought they'd be more common
It's w/e tho
tardy root
Bert one of the worser si40s according to guide
I have si40 Bert too tho
I fell for the hype
XD
I use him a lot tho so I won't complain
bright spire
Hmm from what I’ve heard the top 3 SI40’s are
Bert
aAtha
aBel
And from there it’s basically whale territory
tardy root
Like rem si40 is insane. I want it back 😭
I swapped it out and was gonna rebuild with dim emblems from store. But then I got albedo 
So will be a while lol
bright spire
I remember that guide and it’s just wrong in so many ways
bright spire
It’s recommending a lot of SI35, SI40 and even SI40+ while in reality you should only pick 2 maybe 3
tardy root
?
bright spire
It’s not that the stats are bad but the abilities are just underwhelming on so many characters
tardy root
It's about the stats
bright spire
It’s not taking into account that newer heroes will have better SI40 abilities
tardy root
Yeah the abilities are w/e
bright spire
Like A&E and aLuc are perfect examples of this
tardy root
The guide isn't about "should I save"
It's about breakpoints for specific heroes and comparing them with each other
So if that's your only complaint I think you missed the point xD
bright spire
No it’s that the rankings are bad too
It doesn’t factor in team compositions where cmbr matters, doesn’t take into account that some heroes are fine at lower breakpoints and it certainly doesn’t look at the usage of the heroes
tardy root
When does cmbr matter?
I stopped hitting power caps after floor 450 on towers. Doubt I ever will again
bright spire
Let’s take Olgath for example, he’s a celepog that’s very likely to fall out of the meta and is a whale only hero. Somehow he has a higher SI30+ prio than Bert.. that doesn’t make a lot of sense..
bright spire
When does cmbr matter?
Some hero interactions in CR and NC
Same reason why Naroko doesn’t want HP on her collections
And I think it was Orthros that only wants 209 because of CR, yet the guide recommends SI30
tardy root
Oh ok
bright spire
Morael hasn’t been meta for a long long time yet her SI40 prio is ‘high’
Most whales don’t even have her
tardy root
But yeah like I didn't use red chest to save white chest. XD I should have. It's fine tho
bright spire
It’s too unreliable for my liking
Definitely would’ve been a lot better after actual testing, he put a lot of effort into the data
tardy root
I'm in t100 this TS and should be comfortably in there in the future, so I'm happy. Don't need t20 or w/e
bright spire
That’s the goal, t100 and chill
tardy root
Yeah got t90 this one. I got a lot of stuff close to finished too. XD need new rates and some cores to make up for Emil 🤣
tardy root
Same
Lava and alna not that urgent tho, don't got their furniture yet
F2 alna F0 lava 😭
bright spire
bright spire
Definitely get that aAtha star as soon as rates update
tardy root
Yea
bright spire
I don’t think I could’ve waited lol
tardy root
Was saving to e60 her but then rapid strengthen button on emi popped up
bright spire
tardy root
Not much choice but to wait
Only got 99 sg
Probly need what.. 120 for watha star?
bright spire
If you’re lucky
tardy root
My gems are going towards nyla
tardy root
Nyla one copy from A and I got f3 for her
bright spire
Just uhh.. single pull the last copy.. or you’ll end up with an extra aAtha copy like me
tardy root
Yeah I got double awshem from te 10 pull on 12th copy
Learned my lesson
Gotta figure out which woke to go for next at some point too
Probly asaf unless some better comes out ig?
I got awshem, wyca, and watha
bright spire
I’d go aSaf but I’m biased lol
timber flame
Probly asaf unless some better comes out ig?
Why not Belinda?
tardy root
Why not Belinda?
Cause I have scarlet
timber flame
Scarlet doesnt replace Belinda anywhere 
wispy geyser
^
tardy root
? They're like the same hero practically no?
wispy geyser
Scarlet is like an edgy abel that hits like a wet noodle
but when it's against ur teammates......
she hits like a truck
tardy root
Just abel is stronger
wispy geyser
? They're like the same hero practically no?
she'll literally TPK her team before killing Wrizz/Soren
tardy root
I got higher prio things to get than a stronger scarlet
I hear abel is probly get power crept soon anyways
wispy geyser
the inner workings of ur mind are an enigma
tardy root
wispy geyser
screw meta am I right?
just ignore that abel is still 2nd or 3rd best woke
and ignore her because an edgy 4f is already built
I don't follow but sure
tardy root
I just prefer fish for things I don't already have. Abel merc never changed anything for me
wispy geyser
I bet u still don't kill Wrizz 
copper forum
is anyone interested in buying?
wispy geyser
I doubt it
tardy root
Lb dps/aoe is in my box, I shall go for something else. Maulers are sorely lacking.
wispy geyser
in a doomed region, f2p
copper forum
tardy root
Asaf seems pretty cool by reading her. I'll merc one later and try her out
dire river
My formations and heroes are literally cooked
tardy root
My formations and heroes are literally cooked
Pins in #classic-questions
wispy geyser
Asaf seems pretty cool by reading her. I'll merc one later and try her out
she'll be underwhelming as a merc lmao
wispy geyser
pets?
tardy root
Lol "as a merc"
She'll be as good as a merc as when I build her unless it's a mode where I can't merc ig
timber flame
Lb dps/aoe is in my box, I shall go for something else. Maulers are sorely lack...
Belinda will do better in campaign, king tower, CR, she is bad in ice but does good in other TS. So overall Belinda is better choice but ofc it’s upto you if want to go for asafiya. She isn’t bad either just Belinda is more useful overall.
tardy root
Belinda will do better in campaign, king tower, CR, she is bad in ice but does g...
Perhaps. She just failed to appeal to me lol
Asaf would do more in mauler tower
XD
Ig I am at 2 teams so abel would do a lot in lb tower
wispy geyser
She'll be as good as a merc as when I build her unless it's a mode where I can't...
yeah TS and literally all PvP
she's decent in CR but u never merc asaf lmfao
tardy root
I got scarlet
wispy geyser
??
they don't even do the same thing
Scarlet = group CC
ABelinda = AoE damage
I'm gonna go explain this to my cats, maybe they'll understand easier :dead:
tardy root
Scarlet cuter I meant
wispy geyser
still a point from earlier :wiggle:
u said they do the same thing but they're used in drastically different scenarios
replace abel with scarlet in CR and the comp hits 20b less damage
replace scarlet with abel in NC and the comp takes a minute longer to kill
replace ABel with scarlet in TS (gavus comp) and u get 0% winrate
if u don't want to be stuck mercing ABel for CR for the rest of ur life you'll have to build her, she's very irreplaceable
tardy root
Ig lol
Well I'll figure it out later
For next month or two I'm just save lol
Annoying you is fun tho, but I should sleep. X_x
Also her name is awbel
(Awful)
tall thistle
85 te rip'
tardy root
Ye xD
late spoke
Oh, um, I've noticed something interesting~~!
tardy root
I hate NC
late spoke
In AFK arena, the Time, um... It changed from 12:00pm to 11:59am(refreshed). Isn't kinda Abit curious~~?
sage cove
hi anyone with a 309e3x/6x vika I can merc?
late spoke
..I thought it would've been worth mentioning~^^
tardy root
Like HATE NC lol
stiff hinge
hi anyone with a 309e3x/6x vika I can merc?
tardy root
In AFK arena, the Time, um... It changed from 12:00pm to 11:59am(refreshed). Isn...
Use Time.Is to tell time. Or just use your phone
late spoke
Like HATE NC lol
Hit me~^^(Like as in what's the story~~)
tardy root
Hit me~^^(Like as in what's the story~~)
🤜
late spoke
Use Time.Is to tell time. Or just use your phone
No, it's like... I know this because AFK arena's Time of refresh usually starts on a 12:00pm~~
late spoke
https://tenor.com/view/anime-higurashi-rena-ryuugu-rena-rena-falcon-punch-gif-21...
Ooff~! I'm dead~~ augh~! Lol^^
late spoke
https://tenor.com/view/cat-punch-gif-16287607886277446870
I need a therapy cat~~
tardy root
tardy root
I need a therapy cat~~
tall thistle
late spoke
I'm back~?
tardy root
My therapy cat worked?
late spoke
https://tenor.com/view/animation-cats-happiness-happy-gif-19801348
Yes~! Keep it coming~~
late spoke
https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831
Yep~ 👍 I needed that^^
quiet knoll
Antandra leak?
bright spire
That’s a previous season probably 
tall thistle
no pictures yet but the hero is ig
inner gulch
Good morning yall
bright spire
You’re looking at leaderboards from last rift
wispy geyser
I'm hardstuck on 200
they had better trait enhancer and good comps
bright spire
Can relate, I already have maxed everything (real)
wispy geyser
can confirm
fossil pine
for those playing on pc, what do you use? google play games seems like an option
tall thistle
for those playing on pc, what do you use? google play games seems like an option
best by far unless u have iphone
fossil pine
hah nice, good to know
fossil pine
huh, dont suppose we can go higher than 30 fps on it?
wispy geyser
I use bluestacks solely for the 1080p, google play is like 720p but it runs better
the game itself doesn't run any higher
fossil pine
ahhhh ok ok gotcha
wispy geyser
I think it's capped at 60 actually on the highest settings
tacit nexus
sage cove
@solid junco #mercenary message
wdym whale
steady shore
is it 2 more weeks till the gazing buff
bright spire
I thought you quit
steady shore
since when
bright spire
Since I didn’t see you for a while
steady shore
i was am in an asylum
bright spire
Did you escape
solid junco
<@951835591081861190> https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/5698189864...
anyone with built baden and lyca, cuz I'm missing mercs 
steady shore
Did you escape<:rakuhmm:849044246342533120>
of course, i always do
tacit nexus
anyone with built baden and lyca, cuz I'm missing mercs <:lorsob:663287062249734...
Me who has both but too lazy to give
steady shore
anyone with built baden and lyca, cuz I'm missing mercs <:lorsob:663287062249734...
48838319
tardy root
anyone with built baden and lyca, cuz I'm missing mercs <:lorsob:663287062249734...
wyca or lyca? lol
and i guess si40 wyca is popular these days so my 30960 one might not count :c
prime isle
Why do we still not have info about the new dim skills or any sort of video 
bright spire
We know Rimuru skill
prime isle
Yeah but how bout trailer vid on yt
lavish verge
copper sail
hmm hard to say who'll win
steady shore
i will win
copper sail
fight in my place like a pokemon
cloud void
ooo
fossil pine
huh, decided to try bluestacks instead since google play games gives horrible fps for some reason
tall thistle
what is radiants ae placement?
sudden jetty
Sooo, this happened after maybe 70 summons. I restarted yesterday. Imma assume he's pretty good
tepid epoch
Some dude took me down to 12th place in champions legends tournament
Low and behold I saw them in 6th place and I managed to take their spot 🤭
Happy pride month my friends 🏳️🌈
vapid hazel
Happy pride month my friends 🏳️🌈
happy pride buddy! 
tepid epoch
happy pride buddy! <:badenheart:756538933416034405>
Thank you 
steel island
No, it's like... I know this because AFK arena's Time of refresh usually starts ...
AFK reset is based on Zulu (GMT) time so it does not have to deal with daylight savings in the code
steel island
Happy pride month my friends 🏳️🌈
humble bear
Never seen someone lose this bad in HoE
They live in 2019 with that OG belinda and lucius team
safe panther
A proof the old heroes need buffing.
humble bear
A proof the old heroes need buffing.
Yes if only they buffed the right old heroes and made maulers great
tacit nexus
A proof the old heroes need buffing.
If they do that the game would go bankrupt
safe panther
Not really.
tacit nexus
Yes
Imagine the whale not spending cz the old hero are good enough
No money spent=sad lilith
And I don't even like the idea of getting beaten by only an ainz comp
prime isle
Yes if only they buffed the right old heroes and made maulers great
if they made si40 for old heroes amazing
humble bear
Yes like if drez became a killermachine with si40
prime isle
imagine seirus si40 is just crazy like waves deal additional damage equal to 50% of seirus' max health lmao
humble bear
Ofc you chose the aqua mermaidman
humble bear
And I don't even like the idea of getting beaten by only an ainz comp
Ainz comeback would have been epic
Think about everyone that resetted his engraving
ember thunder
I hate ainz
Not because he was good but because he's bald
He's bald and annoying and boring
Just like Abel is
safe panther
Maybe add 18-furniture skill.
ember thunder
Please Lilith never hire kitteh
safe panther
I would fix up the game. I would bring back the OG fonts.
Square frames too!
I hate Rem
Not because she's boring but because she's overpowered.
She is boring in design (literally a maid) and overpowered.
Also, redesign the power curve: Celestial and Hypogean should be only 5% stronger than the base 4F heroes at the same investment. Awakened heroes should be only 15% stronger than the base 4F heroes.
safe panther
When she's paired with Alna, it's hard to counter her.
ember thunder
Also, redesign the power curve: Celestial and Hypogean should be only 5% stronge...
You can't quantify power and say "I want her to be 10% better" that doesn't make sense
safe panther
Basically I want all damage-dealer heroes to have equalized DPS over the course of the battle. Some are burst, some are continuous, some are AoE which the category is fine. It's then up to you to add supports and buffs to alter their damage output.
ember thunder
You can maybe quantify power but not like that
You want a tower defense game kitteh
steel island
Maybe add 18-furniture skill.
Absolutely not
ember thunder
You want a bomb tower, a sniper, an archer
steel island
I wouldn’t even be too hurt since I have most heroes with furn dupes
ember thunder
steel island
But even then hell no
safe panther
6-furn skill. Some existing 9-furniture skills are moved to 6F.
steel island
Furn is the worst one to do
safe panther
Some heroes would be largely unchanged or have minimal increase of power but the older heroes will be affected the most with a massive power buff.
steel island
ember thunder
That's not how the game works
Or that's not how you get money
We already have more than generous drop rates
safe panther
He needs a big buff.
ember thunder
Why would they rework heroes when they could just pump out new heroes
safe panther
I want a break from new heroes to build existing heroes.
It's impossible for F2P to reasonably build and ascend a new hero in 2 weeks consistently.
ember thunder
The issue isn't the ascension
steel island
I’m running out of heroes to get furn on
ember thunder
The issue is the investment part
I have all heroes except like the 4 latest 4Fs ascended
safe panther
Specifically, F2P should be able to consistently get the 300 emblems needed to take a hero to +30 every 2 weeks. Same with furniture and engravings.
ember thunder
1* even
steel island
I have 1* villanelle
wispy geyser
Also, redesign the power curve: Celestial and Hypogean should be only 5% stronge...
then why would people even whale TE and SG
the rates can't be 2% with rarer cards if they're only that much better lol
ember thunder
Specifically, F2P should be able to consistently get the 300 emblems needed to t...
Then you would never have any choice to make
See someone, build them, gg
safe panther
It takes over a year for me to get a single hero to 36F.
ember thunder
My issue is that too many heroes are too good and require a lot of investment
ember thunder
It takes over a year for me to get a single hero to 36F.
That's highly unnecessary
wispy geyser
Then you would never have any choice to make
See someone, build them, gg
backbuilding however
safe panther
I would love to see a new support hero that gives an ally ignore DEF with normal attacks.
Could massively buff Saurus.
wispy geyser
I would love to see a new support hero that gives an ally ignore DEF with normal...
Dragonspeak damage bypasses Defence
ember thunder
The red damage? That's cool
safe panther
Imagine if Awakened Saurus, as Highborn Draconis Warrior.
wispy geyser
The red damage? That's cool
yeah
safe panther
It kinda bothers me that in portraits, highborn Draconis heroes don't have SP to distinguish that they're Highborn.
ember thunder
The problem I have with the game is that heroes are getting absurdly expensive to make and since none of them are really niche there's no choice to make, just build all of the good ones and leave the fun, nicher ones in the fucking dust
safe panther
Yeah, that is an issue.
ember thunder
You cannot afford to build the characters you want to
wispy geyser
It kinda bothers me that in portraits, highborn Draconis heroes don't have SP to...
they don't have an SP in game
ember thunder
Because the meta is leagues above the rest
safe panther
They could be marked with HB in Portraits.
wispy geyser
then they'd have to change SP to AW
ember thunder
I don't mind there being a meta
But having the meta so high every other hero is irrelevant unless absolutely needed (HF/faction towers) is an issue for me
safe panther
I also saw that Last Cloudia has a feature called Maze of Tartarus where you clear floors but the heroes you used for that floor cannot be used in later floors so you have to plan ahead carefully and its such a cool feature. You can rewind and reset floors to use the hero again.
ember thunder
You play the same heroes in most game modes
wispy geyser
make servers bigger fr
safe panther
What if AFK could get that? 30 floors. Heroes you used to clear the floor cannot be used in later floors.
wispy geyser
You play the same heroes in most game modes
counter argument = idre CR + ice TS
safe panther
It'd encourage building even trash heroes as your hero pool shrinks.
safe panther
The quest to reach 1800 Arena of Heroes ladder points should be removed entirely.
bright spire
I want more of that
Than I want more free rewards
wispy geyser
with the current resource gain any more would have a sheer negative impact
bright spire
The quest to reach 1800 Arena of Heroes ladder points should be removed entirely...
Getting to 1800 is free…
ember thunder
Than I want more free rewards
I'd say less expensive heroes
wispy geyser
The quest to reach 1800 Arena of Heroes ladder points should be removed entirely...
what's wrong with it lol
it's only hard when you've been playing for a week
safe panther
Server is dying.
wispy geyser
it's only hard when you've been playing for a week
and u started late
safe panther
It's an old server where there are only 44 participants.
wispy geyser
and? 
ember thunder
Just stack tickets and bully low ranked enemies
cloud void
@safe panther what server
safe panther
S254 BTW
No way I can hit 1800 with the power differences.
Unless they add permanent Martial Ratings.
safe panther
Been playing for nearly 5 years.
wispy geyser
Just stack tickets and bully low ranked enemies
exactly
wispy geyser
Been playing for nearly 5 years.
with how much to show for it
wispy geyser
No way I can hit 1800 with the power differences.
you've also refused to build good heroes like the plague
tis only natural
ember thunder
My account is probably like half as bad as his
safe panther
safe panther
you've also refused to build good heroes like the plague
It's only Rem that I refuse to build.
I would build anyone else.
safe panther
I like Aw.Belinda.
wispy geyser
It's only Rem that I refuse to build.
so u have ashem, abel, ivan, lava, daemia, alna, lucilla, liberta, alyca/asaf and eugene all built?
ember thunder
I like Aw.Belinda.
Literally ainz on steroids
safe panther
Lucilla, working on that.
ember thunder
so u have ashem, abel, ivan, lava, daemia, alna, lucilla, liberta, alyca/asaf an...
Cmon Eugene can wait two more months
wispy geyser
Cmon Eugene can wait two more months
he should be ascended for free already, 1* is different story :wiggle:
wispy geyser
Same with Aw.Lyca and Aw.Safiya.
and the rest?
ember thunder
he should be ascended for free already, 1* is different story :wiggle:
Yeah he's ascended
safe panther
I have Aw.Belinda, Aw.Athalia, and Aw.Shemira built.
safe panther
1 copy until Aw.Safiya is Mythic.
wispy geyser
1 copy until Aw.Safiya is Mythic.
that could mean absolutely nothing depending on tavern luck
safe panther
I only have 1 copy of Aw.Materia. 😭
wispy geyser
bright spire
aSaf is still very kuch meta
safe panther
10 copies of Aw.Ezizh from RNG.
I was even contemplating getting him ascended for the hero swap event.
wispy geyser
aSaf is still very kuch meta
mae
safe panther
https://redd.it/1d5hgbc No Aw.Safiya?
bright spire
Lots of people slept on aSaf so people actually need her
Of course they’re not adding her to the chest
safe panther
Also HoE would be much better if collections are prohibited there.
Why did they allow collections when artifacts are not allowed?
wispy geyser
all the available heroes are over a year old 
there's no alyca, ashem, asaf, gavus, eugene, alucius there
wispy geyser
Why did they allow collections when artifacts are not allowed?
that's normal pvp :huh:
TS, CR, NC
pretty sure LC too
safe panther
I wonder if one day, Highborn Draconis heroes will be added to awakened hero choice chest in the future.
wispy geyser
they won't
safe panther
Also maybe the cost of summoning Draconis heroes should be reduced to 400 per pull, or 4000 for 10x pulls.
I want a muscular, ripped male Draconis hero for Draconis Warrior-class hero. Something I could get thirsty over. 🥵
lavish verge
🥵
safe panther
I wonder if we will get a more bestial Draconis hero.
In similar manner to some Maulers and Wilders.
safe panther
Nah, dragons are sexy.
bright spire
safe panther
We only have five ascended-tier Draconis heroes. Give them more time!
Also oh yeah.
I only have 2 heroes left from challenger store to ascend: Orthros and OG Ezizh.
prime isle
Quick question should I farm for rimuru
safe panther
Generally, yes.
prime isle
Is she op?
safe panther
We don't have the details yet.
bright spire
Is she op?
If Remilia is our reference, probably yes
safe panther
And likely better than Rem too.
Skip building Rem and potentially save your materials.
timber flame
Don’t skip rem. and don’t ever get an advice from someone who skips rem.
prime isle
yeah, plus u will def have enough for him with isle of gold and 3 months
safe panther
Or do, depends on your choice and whether you like her or not.
Like Rem? Build her. Don't like Rem? Skip her.
wispy geyser
Don’t skip rem. and don’t ever get an advice from someone who skips rem.
real
safe panther
Remember that Rem costs materials. She only needs +20. Maybe 3F but not any further.
Once Rem goes the way of Ainz, I will be truly happy to have skipped her.
bright spire
Her recommended investment is 209e44
stiff hinge
Like Rem? Build her. Don't like Rem? Skip her.
Skip rem= you don't like progress and will 100% fall behind
safe panther
I know how to progress without Rem.
prime isle
rem is just too good to skip out
solid junco
Remember that Rem costs materials. She only needs +20. Maybe 3F but not any furt...
you're high or something? 
stiff hinge
I know how to progress without Rem.
Start an acc without her and one with her and see the difference
safe panther
I am skipping her because what if Lilith nerfs her hard?
Plus I don't like her visual design.
I absolutely don't like anime maids.
solid junco
on the other hand you're building other useless heroes, am I right?
safe panther
Not really. Working on Aw. Safiya and Aw. Lyca.
stiff hinge
At the start u don't really have a choice either use what meta or u r behind everyone else
safe panther
Lucilla too, for pairing with Liberta.
wispy geyser
I know how to progress without Rem.
bright spire
I am skipping her because what if Lilith nerfs her hard?
Lilith doesn’t ‘nerf’ heroes. In the past I can only think of Shemira, but she was really fucking broken
wispy geyser
I am skipping her because what if Lilith nerfs her hard?
lilith doesn't do nerfs
safe panther
Clearly Lilith is lazy.
solid junco
Not really. Working on Aw. Safiya and Aw. Lyca.
your account is terrible, like I expected it to be, +with your hugely overleved rc anything works with any investments, not worth my time to bother
wispy geyser
Clearly Lilith is lazy.
what would u do if Alaro was actually good and they nerfed him?
solid junco
you can progress with walker on that account and call him good
wispy geyser
one of the only units you've heavily invested into and they make him trash
safe panther
I would still use him. Honestly, Alaro needs a buff.
wispy geyser
you'd complain tho
prime isle
I am skipping her because what if Lilith nerfs her hard?
wat
bright spire
They also don’t do buffs
safe panther
Also chapter 52 is gonna be when my progression ends entirely.
safe panther
I don't have any motivation because there are lacks of unlocks at higher chapters.
wispy geyser
there's a lack of unlocks past ch44 lol
safe panther
When was the last time we got Wandering Balloon adventure?
stiff hinge
39 something iirc
safe panther
They haven't added more of the Wandering Balloon.
stiff hinge
39 something iirc
39-10
wispy geyser
When was the last time we got Wandering Balloon adventure?
We do it for misty valley
ember thunder
I love MV
safe panther
Just need two more reward slots.
stiff hinge
When will MV start again?
prime isle
When will MV start again?
2 or 3 days
ember thunder
I need so many chests for awanty
stiff hinge
2 or 3 days
i love MV
ember thunder
I'M LOSING IT AGAIIIIIIIIIIN
prime isle
<:astarnomnom:987530465089028187> i love MV
sameee
stiff hinge
Idk what hero i will choose this time
solid junco
MV should be fully unlocked first day
stiff hinge
MV should be fully unlocked first day
^^^^
solid junco
can't wait to finish atheus
wispy geyser
209e36
ember thunder
E36 being minimum is silly
ember thunder
I +30'd him FOR NOTHING???
solid junco
damn, I made him si30
wispy geyser
I +30'd him FOR NOTHING???
Correct
ember thunder
ARGHHHH
wispy geyser
He has a decent si40 at least
solid junco
time to si40 then
fast gull
solid junco
ik your pain, I'm hoping for new woke to be ass so I can catch up with asaf
safe panther
It could be cool if labyrinth was redone. Infinite runs but with a weekly limit of 50k labyrinth tokens you can earn. Overall, the amount of labyrinth tokens you can get is increased.
Labyrinth of Limbo doubles the limit to 100k.
bright spire
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1230309063909314680/1230433784407789609...
Didn’t know you were a cat enjoyer
unborn zephyr
I've been great how about you?
This is how I’m doing
bright spire
why ????
unborn zephyr
I was so high last night I merced the wrong solise 😭
unborn zephyr
I got t100 in TS <:freshseirus:753008851695042600>
Huge
tacit nexus
This is how I’m doing
Man I can give you too Asolise you have the spot
tall thistle
I got t100 in TS <:freshseirus:753008851695042600>
unborn zephyr
Man I can give you too Asolise you have the spot
What was your username again. I have you added, just forgot what it was
tacit nexus
What was your username again. I have you added, just forgot what it was
The same
You asked solise...
tacit nexus
I got t100 in TS <:freshseirus:753008851695042600>
What a whale
normal zodiac
What a whale
would
tacit nexus
I was high man 😭
We
tacit nexus
But still I'm confused why asking Asolise?
unborn zephyr
tacit nexus
YOU AS WELL??
I pushed too much campaign
unborn zephyr
But still I'm confused why asking Asolise?
Uhhh, sometimes use her for lamb boss thingy
tacit nexus
Uhhh, sometimes use her for lamb boss thingy
I use Linda comp
normal zodiac
im so tempted to use my sg to get athalia's star
tacit nexus
I went from 51-4 to 51-28...
normal zodiac
nice
normal zodiac
shit doesnt change in 53
tacit nexus
400 cr difference
normal zodiac
fly's up everytime thoran gets ready to swipe
steel island
I was so high last night I merced the wrong solise 😭
Mood
ember thunder
Thoran is so bad
safe panther
Hmmm I want to build Aw.Lucius and pair him with Alna.
His ultimate is really strong.
vale nimbus
Half way through my second month(ftp) hildwin is 2 copies away from engravings.... I would say for first time ever on afk arena I got descent luck...lmk what you think, "constructive criticism?!
First account with accended characters... it is a old account I left on chpt 1, 1 year ago no cap
real thunder
If you haven't played for a year, start again IMO
vale nimbus
Eh im kinda attached to the white boarders!
real thunder
Think most will agree
vale nimbus
Wish I couldve got the free copies of rowan, and Palmer from the new servers...tbh
Question...
Is Joan of arc, a better frontline then/than? lucius...?
old bluff
Joan, lucius shouldn't be used
normal zodiac
depends on the investment no?
vale nimbus
Well I heard arthur is useless, and lucius is trash... so i thought joan could be a good substatute until i get rowan or estrilda ascended + or Titus ascended +...
old bluff
If you aren't looking at guides, you probably should. But not gonna force you to change how you wanna play. However, Titus is probably one of the worst celestials
vale nimbus
@lso Is Mezoth a descent ascended tank?
old bluff
No
Comps don't always have to include a tank etc.
Ideal tanks typically have some form of invincibility period
Or heroes like Atheus, Alna, Awakened Shemira, Thoran
torn steppe
@lso Is Mezoth a descent ascended tank?
Current tanks are mostly used like buffers exept ashemira
Albedo buffs dims
Atheus makes enemies take more damage
Grez is also same
So is edwin
Shemira is the best tank and also a dps
tacit nexus
Thats nothing
I know but
tacit nexus
Hendrick have a shiel
torn steppe
vale nimbus
Does the 5 stack faction bonus matter in fights?
torn steppe
Does the 5 stack faction bonus matter in fights?
Yes but it doesnt matter if rhe team has synergie>stats
vale nimbus
Bet TYVM!
limber pelican
hello! Im at chapter 20-5 and I need to complete chapter 22 for a third party offer. I have about 5 days left, is it possible to finish?
bright spire
100% yes
grim blade
is there code chats?
limber pelican
100% yes
hi can I talk to you about my lineup and how I can get there I honestly feel really lost where I am
tall thistle
hi can I talk to you about my lineup and how I can get there I honestly feel rea...
talk to goldenmeal and farsight in #classic-questions about it, they are rly good with everything below ch36
limber pelican
oooh okok thanks!
sonic hazel
whole prawn
Who better astar or palmar?
tall thistle
polmir
tall thistle
My team are good?
no, use guide pinned in #classic-questions
whole prawn
I should use them?
How hogan can be tank? He die from one attack
Other tank I don’t have
wispy jolt
is this game dead
whole prawn
is this game dead
I guess no
Maybe in old server player don’t play
But in last one I find much player
Who play every day
wary pond
That took FOREVER
quiet knoll
What is the optimal investment for rem?
whole prawn
My team are good?
prime isle
What is the optimal investment for rem?
30941
quiet knoll
Ty
twin forge
storm tapir
Hi. The Gloria Spectacular event has an assured SP pull?
My test acct got it on the third x10 pull (out of 100). But none after that.
Was wondering if that was a pity assured pull or rng
whole prawn
My team are good?
Do I should change the team?
tardy root
How much minimum invesment for Atheus SI? SI 20 enough?
si30 eventually
min for atheus is E lol
tepid epoch
man i just realized that i have reached a 500 level deficit first in king tower than an in campaign
tardy root
sounds about right
you need less teams in king tower so ofc you will hit it first there
tepid epoch
ehh its doable since i have nearly twice as the lowest power clear
but it's around a 480 level deficit in campaign here
tardy root
didnt say it wasnt doable
tardy root
the fewer teams needed, the higher deficit you can tackle
tepid epoch
yeah
tardy root
so yeah my kt deficit a lot higher than campaign too
tepid epoch
it's a rough start in 61 in terms of power
tardy root
my awshem even struggles in kt
im.. 285 deficit on tower, 230 in campaign atm
i need to push campaign tho, been lazy
maybe later today xD
cant quite autobattle it 😭
close
tepid epoch
currently pushing kt
if it could make it to top 3 i will
im around a little under 75 floors to catch up to 3rd place
dusk torrent
Rem first?
tardy root
Rem first or atheus?
id try use dim emblems from store for rem
dusk torrent
Wanted to +40 my awakened shemira
languid cedar
I’m on a KT push myself
dusk torrent
id try use dim emblems from store for rem
Rarely found that
tardy root
Rarely found that
Once you finish a dim from lab store the slot is replaced with dim emblems
but I'd do emilia and probly albedo before rem
hmm
viscid vale
Where is the fast way to get SI 40 emblem?
Campaign
tardy root
if you wanna use red chest on dim, emilia is only one id even consider
just be patient on others
dusk torrent
Once you finish a dim from lab store the slot is replaced with dim emblems
Still a long way to go hahaha
tardy root
yeah
viscid vale
There's an Si guide in #faq-resources
dusk torrent
if you wanna use red chest on dim, emilia is only one id even consider
Rem is not even an option?
tardy root
I mean.. her si30 is good but why waste red chest on it when there'
is so many other high prio si30s
All rem's does is a bit of survivability and dmg
if you show box i could suggest next target
languid cedar
There's an Si guide in <#967393659756638228>
IVE HAD THORANS T3 CHEST ON THIS WHOLE TIME. It explains so much
tardy root
rem or atheus probly not the move though from sounds of it
viscid vale
IVE HAD THORANS T3 CHEST ON THIS WHOLE TIME. It explains so much <:lorsob:663287...
no wonder not working
languid cedar
<:kHAHAsos:646205552908566528> no wonder not working
I wasn’t even using him for ts. no excuse
viscid vale
tepid epoch
Ugh… PC sucks. I wanna do something
get a better pc 😉
idk maybe go to a repair store
torn steppe
@languid cedar 
tepid epoch
yeah
but kinda be more specific on that bc people can mistakenly thought it would be for personal computer
wary pond
languid cedar
<@201906059210784769> <:hugstrilda:649149023067963393>
uh oh. what’d I do?
tardy root
Made by Vidma Recorder : https://videorecorder.page.link/Vidma-Best
Flora icicle ftw
Oh I wonder if tamrus works
wary pond
Flora icicle ftw
tardy root
I need a +1 zolrath coll for tamrus now 😭
Lol
I was trynna show I used nara and icicle to take flora tf out but nice 🙂
I bet tamrus does better than nara
Need 19 chest for tamrus si30 😭
wary pond
I bet tamrus does better than nara
That’s why I was showing Kal, basically can act like another Tan.
languid cedar
I finally used gold level totems to make a few level 1 zol collections
tardy root
Nice
I only have 1 and I use it for jerome
I'll make a second for tamrus eventually
Might have to steal jerome's
tepid epoch
i wish people don't knock me down to star ii after getting it there myself
i worked so hard for it
wary pond
i wish people don't knock me down to star ii after getting it there myself
I’m waiting for defense to knock me into Masters lol
tardy root
Yeah just tried my si29 f9 e33 tamrus with +1 zolrath coll
Love him already
Need si30 lol
wary pond
Yeah just tried my si29 f9 e33 tamrus with +1 zolrath coll
Tamtam strong w Mehira
tardy root
Yeah I can tell
wary pond
Even when he doesn’t survive. Grouping up helps a ton lol
It’s happening 
Keep attacking! 
wary pond
Zol +2 is strong
torn steppe
uh oh. what’d I do?
Being huggable
wary pond
Just a little more! 
tardy root
I got that and red skill up only left xD
Oh yeah they're making collections shareable at some point
Maybe I just wait for that
torn steppe
Oh yeah they're making collections shareable at some point
They did say that in dev notes
tardy root
Yea
I guess I can spam zolrath coll with no totems too and pray xD
Yeah not red carding that xD
\O/
languid cedar
Being huggable
oh, you’re the only person to think so
torn steppe
Oh wtf
languid cedar
I’m so far behind in Kt
tardy root
I might need a 2nd level 12 pet for kt ;o;
whichever one i put icicle on wins but the other.. xD
oh i can swap teams
prime isle
<@661238930397462589> look who I found!
Wtf is that stacked acc 
Where do y'all get all the dust to go up lvl 1000+
tepid epoch
i decided that f it
i used some of my +30 stuff and i ended up getting awakened athalia to +40
languid cedar
Where do y'all get all the dust to go up lvl 1000+
I feel like this is a trick question…
pastel grotto
Is the new dims on test server? Does that happen?
viscid vale
Sorry, i mean where is awakened antandra?
Not released yet
viscid vale
Is the new dims on test server? Does that happen?
Not released yet
tepid epoch
not yet
viscid vale
I'm asking where do u get that much dust
By afking
prime isle
dusk torrent
I saw spoiler bout awakened athandra on youtube
dusk torrent
The skill not leaked yet?
dusk torrent
Btw, athandra is worth build for mauler?
I think Maroko is better than awakened brutus
Dunno
viscid vale
Btw, athandra is worth build for mauler?
Not really
dusk torrent
*Makoro
viscid vale
I think Maroko is better than awakened brutus
Depends
dusk torrent
Depends
I have brutus ascended one
Useful only for last blood tanking and that roar tho XD
Not meta anymore, he is meta 5 years ago
He is my first ascended
Whats the best tank for hypogean?? Besides that liberta's sister
dusk torrent
Even when he doesn’t survive. Grouping up helps a ton lol
Thamrus and Atheus is insane combo
viscid vale
Whats the best tank for hypogean?? Besides that liberta's sister
Canisa and ruke
glass star
solid junco
where's top 1
tardy root
where's top 1
43-8
This stage a bit of a bitch lol
Oh tamrus wrong spot
WOOPS
Ez
Energy gen
She's not necessary but I found it's a lot more reliable with her
If you got luminous flight, why not?
But yeah I usually use nilah in mehira comp or emilia+naroko comp
stiff hinge
Lib charm works on flora??
tardy root
Lib charm works on flora??
Well
stiff hinge
Damn i should have tried it
tardy root
In that specific case I put tamrus with zolrath collection in front of flora
old bluff
She doesn't give energy iirc, but the cc and lowering tenacity makes it good for charm
stiff hinge
Also is nyla si30 good or just decent?
tardy root
So tamrus delays flora then pulls her, then icicle freezes her
tardy root
Also is nyla si30 good or just decent?
Very good
stiff hinge
Don't have ic maybe that is why it doesn't work
tardy root
She doesn't give energy iirc, but the cc and lowering tenacity makes it good for...
Oh you are right she does not. She only gets some energy back if her ult fails
tardy root
I did hildwin si30 but i should have done nyla
Yes I would do nyla before any others
old bluff
Oh you are right she does not. She only gets some energy back if her ult fails
Yeah, had to double check was gonna be shocked if I missed that
stiff hinge
I have 200 emblems anyway and maybe i will but emblems from dragonforge
Or cores more value?
prime isle
I did hildwin si30 but i should have done nyla
is nyla si30 better than hild?
tardy root
is nyla si30 better than hild?
Yea
stiff hinge
is nyla si30 better than hild?
It seems to be
tardy root
Imo
prime isle
tardy root
Just get both
tardy root
I beat stage 4 finally couple days ago
stiff hinge
If i get some fodder for nyla maybe i can
tardy root
Cause as far as I can tell merlin skills just don't scale on his own stats
stiff hinge
My acc is new lol like less than 3 months
Didn't try any of the challenger store heroes yet
tardy root
Mulan reccomended tp get first
stiff hinge
But i liked mulan because i got her in mercs and beckonings
stiff hinge
I think there is another hero people say it's probably better to get than mulan forgot the name tho
stiff hinge
Guide says mulan alot says merlin i will ask nem and Daniel about it later
I already got 30 shards so can't step back now
stiff hinge
I got her in the wl anyway so i will probably have 9f before i get her
Ch36 btw so i need a dmg dealer so ig mulan can do some
stiff hinge
lower investment probably
Mulan need 30930 right?
tardy root
Wouldn't say f9 is 100% necessary. Haven't tried her si30 yet
runic depot
most likely
stiff hinge
Wouldn't say f9 is 100% necessary. Haven't tried her si30 yet
R u sure? Experienced players says it's needed
tardy root
I mean read what they do
runic depot
ppl says 30930 for mulan or 30944
but merlin imo 2090 is fine
but im noob so if im wrong tell me bois
stiff hinge
I just want a 5th carry in ch36
old bluff
Mulan 9f is important
tardy root
Yea
old bluff
209 is a good start
tardy root
I just want a 5th carry in ch36<:belovedzikis:884583816910483506>
She won't give you that at 209e0
I can say that for sure
stiff hinge
Then who should i get for that
tardy root
Cause mine is 209e0
tardy root
Then who should i get for that<:areyouseirus:663985754438893610>
I mean you can show box
