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tavern pull has a very simple probability system
it's just 4% binomial distribution with a drop off at 30
hey guys looking to add more friends π
Can I please add anyone that has Asolise available for merc?
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Who should I get?
Walker
Mats probably
I mean which Celestial/Hypogean should I get.
none
whales
you
This new VoW is silly.
It also parodies many of the VoW elements like lever puzzle and laser puzzles.
So Is one u can get stuck in ..then have to restart again ?
Nah, you cannot get stuck but Raine dialogue makes fun of some VoW where you can get stuck.
Should I get Daemia or fodders heroes with the event ?
it's the best one yet
reds or baits
Baits ?
Yay finished 45

Welcome to the club
Show me your heroed
Ye
F2p
@wispy geyser without thoran cheese, how about this?
What r47 means ?
ts region 47
definitely not
not bad
if under 10k is f2p, then yeah f2p

7 and working on my 8, i mean i just started alyca
why nah
How do u ve 6 si40 chars
cuz i dont know who to +40 my next one
How much ve u spent so far
4.876
nah jk im f2p
Cap
no cap
only 162m gold is definitively f2p 
Freedom 2 Pay
Exactly!
i forgot, are they releasing two new heroes with the new faction or just one?
bruh
@wispy geyser focus on getting reso 15 or getting a pet to 18 at a time?
ok so after seal, which pet to 18? owl? cuz i wanna get it to 15 asap
I'm two pulls of fox off from reso 15 then I get spice trick 
36 copies from reso 18, can't wait 
Cant imagine how good that feels, im about 50 spices from reso 15π
Who else fell for the April fool's prank they pulled?
Wich one
Thats not april fools
Oh
I already found 7, then they gave me the book
I legit never read that π€£
But still it shows 6/7
I never do either but I read in some comments that it gives a surprise gift when u find the 7, so I was determined to find all clues and stuff so I read through everything and ended up on that
Oh lmao
The 7 th is the april fools
Yeah they show u still have one to find, where u already found 7
I'm pissed and impressed at the same time lol
.
The golden one represents each Easter egg
I can help u get them if u want
@prime isle
i have 3/7
- Balloon
- Three bushes
- 3 town buildings
- Mushrooms
- The no reward enemy
- Oden
- Hogan
Lemme know which one u need help with
how do I do oden hogan
Talk to oden twice, second time u can give him tips
For Hogan, after everything talk to him (that's what I did) he will have a different dialogue from before and that will complete it
Should I put somebody of these charachters on the furniture wishlist or wait
For new chars and save the coins
oo nice
whats the no reward enemy
U see there's three enemies above thoran, the middle one
Defeat it all ull get it
I ud say save
ok last one
3 town buildings
In the middle area, to the left before entering the Hogan area, ull see 4 buildings (it's 4 not 3 my bad) click all of them and knock
U already got the mushroom?
i got both mushrooms
shriked and grown
but i already did the 4 buildings one
im at 6/7
Eat the big mushroom, eat the small, then before exiting eat the big one again
oh wait i didnt do that
Yeah that's the mushrooms
Yeah I thought the same
uhh why did they turn into hypogeans
I don't see any heroes there that I ud like to invest (3/9 or 9/9) so yeah
They will turn back go out
Really it shows 7/7?
yes now its gone
i font have it
Ss ur bag
oh its in the event bag
not in my other bag
April fools
Yeah I knowww, I was pissed when I read the note but impressed cause I fell for it lol
haha
I was searching for the 7th for an hour lol
really
Yeah with a little exaggeration
i gave up after 3
Dang
I finally finished the furniture section for a while now

Xxd
Is there any new leaks ?
Good question
We ve been expecting dims for months and still nothing
It looks like they re not priority rn
they'll be later

expect draconis then dims
The collab's been pushed back it seems.
how do u know
whales
woah i'm no whale
Does anyone have the latest hypo built? I would like to Merc it please π«‘
try the merc channel
Yessir
So are we not gonna get Spring in Esperia or what?
ask lilith
ur acting like u didnt sell a building for vip 29 π
i sell skateboard not buildings and iβm f2p
forced2pay
f2p
hmm very f2p yes
time to go on mythic heroes where i will crash 5 times on bluestacks today
It should be time for new dim releasr
But it looks like they re delayed cus of the new faction
That game still exists?
Thought it was ded
π
wat
So we.probably wont get dims in the next 2 months atleast
Afk arena live execution before 2025
Hopefully
ramb, hi
hi hecker
Anniversary event when
And is that true that wr can exchange time emblems for the draconis cards?
probs

Great, we have stargaze, timegaze, and then... Dragaze? Dragongaze?
Dragondeezgaze
Knee slapper
are u tryna do stuff
Code?
Very carefully.
i just sent them the guide JD made
what
i did it porkchops β€οΈ
5 mins into the game, first I get DM if I wanna see noodes of s girl. Then a 31 year old virgin guy tries to hit me up and now a random guy told me to watch mermaid corpse on YouTube. Wtf is this
Block and report them
Whats wrong with mermaid corpses and 31 yo virgins?
thatβs weak you gotta bank to 59
59 is also fairly easy until 59-52 then i found despair
i know im still higher level than where i could be in campaign froggy
but if i push too far then i cant use my fun comps
why would you talk in english chat?
Guys can I get some suggestions on which hypo I can swap to? I just made wu Kong ascended and engraved only to be swap with a hypo. But not sure which one is worth it
Hello, have a question
I am a returning player and wonder if I should start a new account.

@prime isle because unfortunately there's no chat moderation so you get all sorts of "exotic specimen" in the game, pretty much any game with social aspect will have these creeps
All I can say is... RNG didn't do their birth well
where do i find dismal party?


@glacial bloom i found the secret formula
Cooked?
yes
Restart if u wanna compete
kk, whats the mentor program thing is it worth doing it popped up but never seems to do anything
only worth it for apprentices
somethjing worth going to the apperentece channel and trying to find a mentor?
or can i just literally mentor my own alt
You can mentor yourself if you have 2 accs
did the games anni just end recently
Yayoi pfp
thats like blind leading the blind innit
Hmmmm it could be kinda cool if Lilith starts doing separate leaderboards in events, separate F2P and small spenders in leaderboard from dolphins and whales.
Yes but not possible lol
There would be some backlash from spenders lol
Its also unfair for old high vips
They havevsame ammount spent as others but with the new pcreeps added and they stopped spending its like putting f2ps againt whales again
Perhaps also raise the max player level. A combination of player level and VIP level that determines which leaderboard they get put into.
Let player level go to 500.

It's been 400 for a long time.
Needed friends for friends points
Everything
The anniversary event havnt even started yez
If you say so
kinda weird 31 yos telling you they're virgins tho
im a wizard
I will be a wizard eventually!
naughty
mirajane
Ok, ty
Would would
gwyneth
It looks like we are going to get 2 free copies of hildwin?
ye
credits to naji
Lyca si40 sounds strong maybe
Probly won't do it but 50% dmg boost. Pog
Oh only if they have more acc than enemy dodge 
I think that's usually, not sure
abel will die thanks to them
how do they look? op?
they sound crazy op
Thsts a completely new charachter
its woke gwyneth
Why re u guys talking ahiut the next awekend when we Just got 2 dragons
1 of the dragons is gwyneth
oh what the heck
Re u dumb
are u?
I thought people were joking because she looked like her
Gwyneth - Winged Vanquisher

There was actually a reddit post with data mining, and they have similar voicelines
someone pointed that out and thought it was a sign that it was fake
but no it literally is gwyneth
also their face are the same
Ye

Hiw
And the lore intro also goes well with the dragons being young humans
I thought their face was similar too
How the hell is gwyneth=dragon
she dra-akened ok
she is adopted
her bloodline awakened
I don't like it either
ye
._.
if they're gonna do awaken, do awaken
She got 0 connection to dragons
don't do this awakened, but not actually awakened 
maybe we can summon her with TE
Nah draconis have their own gach
maybe
I dont want to see already existing chars being dragons
Create smg new dammit
We already got awekends for thst
wait so we get an awakened dragon?
I dont understand it either
Well I don't see any awakened skill
Gwyneth resurgencee
But I don't feel like they have ultimates?
it does create a sub machine gun moment indeed 

Dra-ka deez nuts
Kinda dissapointef
Now when we talking about chars we ve to say Draconis Awrkend (name)
DAGwyneth
Dumb
drageth maybe? xD
I'm getting gwyn just for animated pfp
Discord Pfp checks out
btw we get more than 200 drake summon thingies for free
oh nice nice
Yeah so if it's the same pity, you still need like twice more
its still half of it built for free
i wouldnt complain
Yeah
Yeah, for getting two heroes released, probably game changing.. it's decent
But should we pull for them though
too early to ask or do those also drop at Legendary?
I don't think we even know what's the gimmick
yea why not, people pulled for atalene when she was released and she was good
We know shit.
Sp iirc
She was horrible
In the long run
Couldnt do shit compared to other awekenfd
everyone is horrible in the long run, thats what powercreep is there for
I mean
^^
Ains was not
she was literally the first aawkened lmfao
Even scarlet
He got crept pretty fast
I think you just weren't paying attention to meta
ainz was a beast for a long time, only rowan has been meta longer than him
It was a decent time
Oh just noticed there are more characters in the splash screen
i honestly cant wait for the update and whale it out
Also dragons by the horns
I can't wait to have celepog, wokes and dragons releases back to back in the future 

Lol
I will probably save the cards
And see what the other dragons do
The other 4
I'm so getting that animated gwyn pfp
Bruh
yea probably its a bad idea to whale the first dragons cuz the next ones for sure will be better but i cant hold myself
I mean if u re not f2p than go for it
Im 100% sure that after we get the 200 cards its going to be Hella hard to get those cards
5000 a pieace

They made the first one hot af on purpose 
hildwyn looks good
I would rather save
Also don't forget the data mined incubation thing
Trap
Exactly
idk if i understood wrong but one of them will be something like eugene? releasing it slowly?
dragon pet
Don't have rss to max them anyways
This boy looks good
wait the dragon heroes are real???
that wasnt a sarcastic jab???
likely

wtf π
draconic trish
Looks at his abs
Rather eorin
reverse trap
yeah but same pose as current trish
might just be fodder heroes
ye but u use them to ascend other dragon heroes like 4f
actually 0 shot we can summon gwyneth with TE she doesnt even have woke skill

100% u cant use dragons as fodder
Impossible
Ngl they look similar
The dragon from sololeveling
dragon atheus?
- Clandestine Meeting: As Gwyneth's foster father, Hendrik was worried when he learned that a mysterious Draconis elder had come into contact with her. The appearance of the Draconis implicates various parties, and after mulling over it for a while, Hendrik finally decided to meet this elder again with Gwyneth.
- Whispers of Panic: It is unknown where the rumor that Gwyneth is a dragon-turned-human originated. Fear is riding high among the people, and the Empire is in its most vulnerable hour now. The Archbishop of the Temple of Light decided to give a sermon to dispel the rumors and calm everyone's nerves
- Trusty Helper: After hearing that the palace was acutely understaffed, Prince Lester's wife quickly sent out her beloved butler. Everyone in the capital is busy preparing a celebration for the arrival of a group of mysterious guests.
so ye its gwyneth
png please?)
dont have it as png
Spoilers for episode 2 of Vox Machina, but this mofo played by David Tennant was also a dragon in disguise
My precious boy Oden is getting a really nice skin i hope it free
My reaction was almost exactly worded like yours; "My baby boy Oden is looking fancy?" I loved that storyline in the celebration adventure, where he's existential
The fall off made him question his role in the game
And the skin is him coping with it
The deamia is probably for $
I love him lorewise, but he sucks at 2 stars/15-20 si. The greatest thing he's done for me is being a Dim link xD
And oden through evenz
Yay!
He is very strong
I know, he just needs more, ;-; But I always give resources to other heroes.
hope dae skin is free if anything
No dae looks good as is, portal boy needs new drip
oden is free
π¦
Womp womp
He was useful to me as filler comp in an ashem ts team
Neither do i but he is still one of my favourite heroes
I was mad that lilith was milking the game even more than they had to, but I underestimated how happy a simple skin and a celebration vibe could make me
vibes over everything
TS regions are a couple servers
otherwise its a new server evrytime
Arena & LCT are 1 server but irrelevant
~15-20
LCT quite important, very important for early game
They're easy to rank in either way
Hello hello
Seems so
new code is so goated
^^ afkdr4g0ns2024
._.
Fr
Iβm new, is this a W?
Yes
You save up to 65 TEs when you eventually get around to building her
Idk what that means

@median spear Let's put it this way, pulling a new hero, even a top tier one, is not the end of the journey, you still have to keep pulling and upgrading the said hero to make it stay powerful
Ah ok
But by getting lucky pulls, you save on having to spend the rare resources like Temple Emblems that's used to pull them normally
Ok, Tysm
dragonis Gwyn let's go!!
yall are so cruel to all of us new players
Any suggestions for a team?
I donβt get it
Jesus christ seeing the progress of some people the same level / similar level to me is crazy
whale
How
Nah that's bs your too lucky
that's huge
Now the downside is I canβt ascend them or level them enough due to lack of resources
But like a 120 awakened safiya and Belinda will still get me pretty far cause Iβm so early game
yea safiya will help lots in mauler tower too
belinda is an amazing hero to get as well
ABelinda gets you really far even at legendary
yea
Evil Lilith be like: Hehe we will add a new faction and actually hive it legendary+ heroes nyehehehe
Genuinely shocked they held back on just making it insanely grind again
and she is cuter than safiya
who is #7 Zappy
how much extra benefit is with upgrading furn?
what's the new code?
DONLETTER
Just stats, but some heroes furn gives extra haste
ngl the amount of times this game puts brutus in campaign stages is insane
getting stuck bc brutus casually 1v3s my team and having to replay so many times
same bro
Is there a direct counter to him or smth bc it's irritating how often rem casts ult, kills entire enemy team and gets killed immediately after bc brutus ults
just change her position and pray that brutus dies before her
it's because Brutos is the best 
Hmmmm keep buying Aw.Eugene copies from guild store even though he's Ascended? Could give him stars.
I donβt see why not
A1* and e60
Could work towards that for sure.
Also I have 5 Mythic furnitures for Aw.Shemira all saved up.
I wanna start working on Gavus now, but Liberta/Lucilla are the ones Iβm behind on
I'm 1 copy away from ascending Liberta.
I really should do Lucilla, but Kalthin looks like a great Hypogean hero to build.
Though Iβm still fearing that by the time I finish them, they could on their way out the door
Is he? Iβve been seeing mixed reviews
They should be fine as long as liberta has his place
Both of them are M+ for me, so now they both need 2 copies
pretty lucky pulls from purple stones (on restarted acc)
Pretty good, they can be useful later on talene especially
The amount of Rem simps in the game is damn too high.
never knew rem simps are a trendy thing
olgath unless you just realllly want stars on lava for some reason
Olgath got motion like that?
I never hear about them
The immediate one Iβve been hearing about was Lavatune when the swap event came
Same as me! Olgath! 
He will help you a lot in hypo tower too.

It doesn't help that new server push meta is pretty much Rem Rem Rem and more Rem (and Ivan)
Time to nerf her hard so people need to actually build proper teams
It's far worse in TS because everyone is facing the same teams so it feels double bad when your own Rem lose to another Rem
It's... Toxic af
Are there even any good anti-Albedo heroes?
Ideally prevent her protection from proccing.
Albedo is harmless though, she just there wasting even more time if you wipe everyone else
Usually, Emilia is a bigger threat.
I alr have lava so close to ascended ill just build him normally
Olgath it is then my friend. Also I dont have the new hypogean hows he
how do i enter in test server
Can there just be an incentive to make varied teams rather than striking one hero?
Or simply a hard counter?
(Though that could lead to another issue. A common one that happens in Dislyte, funnily enough.)
how prepared are you guys for the new faction
as prepared as a f2p can be, fully prepared to get obliterated by whales for the next months

Not at all, but knowing me, Iβll be focusing mainly campaign
Breezing through 44 atm
meanwhile i am back at the weekly waiting
Juggling this, Journey, and Dislyte is a chore. 
Me when I eventually hit chapter 48 while still at RC560
Actually no, Chapter 50
Okay, but not available for swap.
Olgath it is then

Omg I love your pfp
Hate to break it to you there's are simp that simp for cat girl even though it a boy
yes felix is love
ty, Holou best girl
is that how endgame is?
yep, its either your effecient with your teams and hit the power cap or your inefficent with your teams and get stuck on certain stages
Two new heroes coming?
Double heroes. I probably assume they will both belong to a new faction. One looks to be Intelligence Mage, one looks like Agility Ranger.
woke, not woke gwyneth 
They also look very humanoid.
I also wonder if one of the new heroes will be like Aw.Eugene in the sense you can't pull one of them and only from events for a few months.
Do you think they will work like Awakened heroes or non-awakened heroes? I also get a feel they will go to +50 and e100.
i mean the faction got common/rare/epic (fodder?) heroes aside from the legendary true bloods so who knows maybe its friendlier designed then awakends
Maybe. Interesting.
I wonder if there will be 4th tab, next to Temple of Time or maybe just a new Noble Tavern banner for pulling those heroes?
And would purple soulstones be able to pull those heroes?
its a new building if i remember correct
Hm. So a new tab in the Noble Tavern then.
I wonder if there are plans to eventually have 3 fodder Draconis heroes to match the standard factions.
(Although IMO, lightbearers should have just 3 fodder heroes, not 4.)
they have 4 fodder if the epics are fodder
Maybe not.
My prediction is that the 3 Epic dragons would occupy Ranger, Support, and Warrior class. At least one dragon hero for each class.
i hope the epic "fodders" are usable and not locked at 240
Most likely they will match the standard ascended-tier heroes going to +40 and e80, and up to 5 stars.
@cunning wigeon Whereβd you go? I need more dragon info
What info
why are you following me 
No where else to lurk 
was driving HRH Hythlo
are you gonna be.. the mother of dwagons ?
no, I quit
Yess sir
They look so good
you lie
no no. it specifically says you lie
am I really though?

why not?
I just took a new job
with a pay cut
and higher job satisfaction
seems like the perfect transition

take that lawsuit like eminem did so companies see how much balls you have 
which correlates to higher level jobs and moni
why were you getting sued 
Is this worth it chat?
she used to run a mafia business

Is it worth it?
pretty daring to sue an ex mafioso
Anybody?
because why not? I work in public education
If you have to ask, then it's not
Whats in the red chest?
if you dont need $35
If its awakened both deals are good
Very worth
Ok
specifically special education. everyone is sue-happy
i see what you did there 
Bron it's good to keep up?
what did I do?
im just glad i got ivan to e60
You know, if Awakened Gwyneth can be of a different faction then we can get non-awakened Maetria of Wilder faction.
u know they aren't rly awakened atleast they dont have a field buff i belive
im already prepared for the worst so dw about me
I also hope they will eventually add Draconis and Dimensional tower.
Although it's likely they would add Draconis tower before Dimensional.
My theory is that the "awakened part" is going to be that only one dragon can be transformed
dont tell crofty but im currently on the same stage as them lol
what stage is crofty rn
59-20
heh amateur not even 60-
tbh i only know crofty because last mining session he was my enemy and he kept attacking my rocks
lmao

where's the dragons, that's just more people with wings
Wait till you see the new awakened draconic tasi itβs mad
Gotta e100 36/36 5* her to be good thin
You need the essential secret ingredient - Red Bul- oh wait
the people rly do be looking at the pet reso 12 no atheus no aBaden runs lmao
Very busy is an understatement
I love this design so much omg, def gonna build her
she looks like 17 heroes that already in the game'
Shes elite thos
So prolly also an ascended tier hero
Like a drago astar lol
It's better to restart 
Her name was Leilia in the JP tweet
Yeah the fodder tier is Gurke
Cassius, Leilia & Blinney have potential as actual heroes
TL;DR let the krakens pull and test all of them, then F2P focus on the good ones if they can pull

Seems like 6 new heroes in total as of right now 2 Woke, 3 Elite, 1 Rare, 2 Common
i dont get it π
2 new awakens, but not using timegazers
they will release 2 hero next time?
Atleast 2, yes
ouch
yeah just found it..
gwyneth and hildwin
oh ok...
was thinking about to start Alyca but..
Wait to see if there is an exchange event to convert timegazers to the new cards
Should be here next week, but that's from test server
time emblems or stargazers π
btw i'll suppose i will just keep both
Save time emblems
tho i dont have much. just finished Ashemira
Will probably be a max of 50-100 that can be traded
Decided to do a 10 pull and the heavens gifted me this
@stiff hinge made any progress on 31 4?
i used a merc but got stuck at 31-8
same lol
i imagine itll take a while to be able to get through
need a proper source of dmg to wipe out enemy team2
im just raising my 2nd account for the moment
nice ogi
I have accended scarlet but she dies fast and don't damage enough
I may get grez to sccended today tho
have you used that collection that gives her energy in the start of battle to see if it makes any difference
Idk what it's name i will go find it rq
In the early game ur 2 dmg dealers are rem and aShem/naroko/daimon. What ever u build first for the 2nd team
U can also do crassio but he isn't reliable enough imo. Rather get naroko
She does the ult but is not enough lol
dont have naroko or daimon and ashem isnt developed enough
I have rem and daimon linked
my ashem needs 1 more copy for mythic though
And i don't have ashemπ
maybe hire emilia/albedo?
Then get naroko up or link rem to fooder acended hero
My dumb ass rehired rem instead on accident
naroko will get her up with a swap later since she lacks copies
Daimon is one star and scarlet is accended do i link rem with scarlet?
right now im just raising the level of my resonator heroes so i can link rem to someone else
since my lady simona puts in good work
she carries gb tower so maybe can also do good dmg in team2
at what tier she becomes good?
Havenβt really played so slowed down a little bit
Daimon carrying me in gb tower but i need someone to the 2nd team
what floor is your gb tower
101
my lady simona just murders everything there but she needs someone to tank for her fora bit
fortunately i have ashem lol
I have accended thoran and accended ivan so i am good
i put in ashem and thoran usually front
have you tried using ivan
in seperate team
than rem
rem may get by with just lyca/rowan/palmer
and her tanks
i did get athane by luck yesterday from normal summons
wonder if he can get anything done
Yes but they all die
share heroes
barricade artifact seems kinda useful
at keeping carries alive too
Should i try it on scarlet?
imma go give 31 8 a try see if anything works
we probably need some more investments on a second carrry before we can make progress
I have 8 copies of grez maybe when i get fodders he will help
Also tamrus missing one copy
grez doesnt really do much
mine is 1star 3f si30
he seems to need more
and he needs to be backline too it seems
doesnt survive long enough in front to spam his minions
what do you get from these dim events?
Uhhh I don't really care about any dim hero besides rem and emilla
But wish I had queen and rem
queen and albedo supposed to be pretty decent hires after rem and emi
everyone literally hires her?
Oh I guess I missed out a lot
I drop afk arena like 6 month ago
And I just came back because I feel like it
rem is the best hire
what server are u
Idk but I pretty sure is new server
So far I'm in chapter 10-23 in just 2 days
Yes I grind
without rem? wow
Yeah
Of course Scarlet and free Eugine. Carry me
And of course can't forget ivan
I want to build him
If u have engraving on rem then don't swap. Also uninvested scarlet sucks. 309 is min invest
I have engraving and si20 on scarlet
I still don't know what engraving does to each hero since I'm to lazy to read their ability one by one
Best pick for u would be to get scarlet 1 star and link rem with her and use daimon as dd with bit more invest
Either upgrades skills or completely new ones will be unlocked
U should read

Ik but my English is not that to good

Ok i will put her in wl until i get her to 1*
I don't understand half of the word and just goes like ok this guy op
U can play the game in your native language tho
And it not on there
@stiff hinge my team2 with emilia grez ashem atheus ivan won now need to make the rem team work
lol
I think it will take a while for me
Rem, palmer, rowan, Jerome, and what ever tank u got
Do u have 1 copy?
i do
somehow 1 rem ult isnt killing shit

she ulted and nobody dies
Do u know code redeem guys?
ill just keep changing positions until i see it work
Use tamrus and place thoran in front of shemira
tamrus just elite+
ill put them on resonator and test later

at least team 2 working without rem is good sign
Omfg finally
1 copy of liberta? I have been told he becomes useful at mythic and a monster at A but other than that don't use it
I hate rng thing dude
As long he survives even 1 copy is enough but it is true that his use is better at mythic
What team is good with him in campaign
Ashem probably
Idk what survives long enough in the beginning beside her
My smurf also has aShem build so never had issues xdd
oden could maybe be of use too
I don't even know what she does all I know is that she summon thing

Wlup time to read a entire essay
Most is trial and error for sure
If u can't beat it just wait a bit and do other stuff and upgrade your heroes
luck can probably take care of what little is left
How da heck do you have 866m gold?
yea i spend a shit ton specially on si20
i win the rem team but the other one is making me hate my life










