classic-chat

[floral arch]

The same will happen to journey

[bright spire]

It’ll happen to journey

It’s the cycle of gacha games

Generous start -> more and more powercreep -> whaling becomes a given to be competitive

If you’re willing to just play knowing you’ll never be competitive f2p is perfectly fine since most games still are very generous in f2p progression

[hexed pulsar]

tbh I think the game is a lot more generous now than how it used to be before (ex: TRift alone gives more resources in 90 days than what we got for free in all of 90 days in like 2020/2021)

The only bad feature I see atm is the collections since there is no easy way to get the staffs

[bright spire]

Let’s use the term ‘inflation’ here. Those extra free rewards now equate to less progression than they used to

[nocturne thicket]

Tbf its only natural things like that come to bring new sht that r not just heroes and to players feel they still have things to work on to improve heroes, its still quite f2p friendly. Differently from other Lilith games that r just p2w

[hexed pulsar]

Not really, people don't know how good they have it nowadays lol

The rate of progress is much faster nowadays as f2p. In fact, f2p being able to rank highly in several game modes in this game is strange in and of itself

[floral arch]

My only concern is that arena will stop getting new players

[hexed pulsar]

Try any other game, and you wont even reach top 1k as f2p

[nocturne thicket]

Why would it tho

[floral arch]

People would rather play a new game they can compete in

[normal zodiac]

like have you seen questions, theres always new ppl

[bright spire]

That’s a good point actually

[scenic orbit]

If anyone got their ALucius 5 star, I wanna see

[floral arch]

True but this server is so dead compared to 1-2y ago

[hexed pulsar]

this one is fair. Newer players have a big disadvantage in CR and NC

not to mention events like AE and HoE that are cross-server

[normal zodiac]

thats how all games work tho, you cant expect to start like a month in and rank up there with the big boys

[nocturne thicket]

Well ig, i restarted playing on Christmas and in a new account but im doin p good i competing, ig some players might not have the patience tho

[floral arch]

Unless your dd

[nocturne thicket]

However I think its p easy to play both games at the same time, and quite rewarding if u liked the universe

So prob attracting more players to arena instead of taking them away

[hexed pulsar]

yea you're right... but it's just not fun knowing that you're competing with people playing for 2+ years in various modes. If there were more brackets it would be nicer

[normal zodiac]

which there are which is why we have reigons, for TS

[nocturne thicket]

I mean there are regions

[hexed pulsar]

I mean in all modes

not just TS

[nocturne thicket]

Ofc there r some events u can’t rlly compete but there’s others u can

And dats fine no?

I mean should be

[hexed pulsar]

Idk, knowing that there's 3 main modes to get resources and you'll pretty much only get good stuff from 1/3 is pretty bad. If I hadn't played this game before, knowing that would be enough for me to quit

[nocturne thicket]

Meh idk maybe adding more rewards into region based events would be nicer but it feels “sufficient” in the early

[normal zodiac]

CR has always been like that tho, NC had to copy the same format since it was in the same area the guild grounds

[nocturne thicket]

Starzone is also a good event for that

[normal zodiac]

there are lots of events that are beginner freindly for resources and things

[hexed pulsar]

Im not saying there aren't enough resources. There are a lot of beginner-friendly events, but it is something that I think can be improved

[ornate slate]

Nooooo wayyyyy

[normal zodiac]

very nice

[ornate slate]

Never see that

[hexed pulsar]

Give me your luck

[nocturne thicket]

Dam

[normal zodiac]

youve lost your luck for the next 300 pulls

no doubles for you

[pliant summit]

I'll eat u alive

Ban

[ornate slate]

[glad sand]

Definitely worth the Ezith swap

[pliant summit]

Where's the e60

[glad sand]

Didn't have e60 on Ezizh

[prime isle]

Nice.

Definitely worth the Wukong swap.

[normal zodiac]

beast

[loud crow]

Blud used whole world luck

[oblique lodge]

Nice

Definitely worth the lucretia swap

[prime isle]

👏.

[tepid epoch]

why is 56-44 so annoying

[clever dagger]

astar round?

[tepid epoch]

its the eironn round

but i used a different comp

and now im having trouble with tasi round

[clever dagger]

Ah I think I remember having issues too

not sure what I used in end

[sudden marsh]

ive peaked

[split path]

What's better on swap? M AThalane to L AAthalia or 4 star monkey king to L Lavatune?

[sudden marsh]

how many time gazer cards and star gazing cards do you have

[split path]

around 300 time gazer, 150 star gazing

I have 2 L Athalia might get 1 more in next mystic starzone

[sudden marsh]

something tells me you want aathalia

[sudden marsh]

why is wukong 4* anyway? are you an older player or have you been building for the purpose of swapping

[split path]

Been building for swapping. Just wondering if swap on awakened hero is more impactful than getting 4 star meta support

[glacial fulcrum]

What happens after we kill the boss in the expedition?

[tepid epoch]

24 hour cooldown

[rain bay]

Anyone tried journey yet ? Any good?

[safe panther]

It's good.

[tough loom]

Should I?

I have Shemira, Baden, Belinda, Safiya, Athalia and Brutus all at A 1 star

I think this is the only Aw swap that makes any sense

I could also do this

(need help)

[rain bay]

Better call

This is the better play

[tough loom]

Yeah I think so to

the only good Aw I do not have

is AwLyca

who I am building rn

[safe panther]

Lavatune is a better choice.

[tough loom]

also, is 2 star wukong

better to swap

or the flora

[safe panther]

Lavatune is hands down one of the best supports.

[tough loom]

should I use wukong or flora

as sacrifice

[safe panther]

Either.

Depends on whichever had more investment or star level.

[tough loom]

wukong has 0 investment, star level 2

flora has furniture 9 (by random chance)

and 4 stars

[prime isle]

Maybe try getting Flora to star level 5 in 40 days and then swap her.

[chilly narwhal]

Is this good?

[tough loom]

Oh yeah I have a extra copy alrdy

I can swap after the flora event ends

[safe panther]

Then swap Flora for Lavatune.

You can still get copies of Lavatune rarely from tavern pulls and purple soulstones.

[tiny hare]

Thank you lucrieta for everything and for getting me to floor 300 today, but it’s now time for me to bid you farewell, legend ❤️

[rain bay]

whichever has more investment

flora then

if she has furn

[tiny hare]

W’s in the chat for a GOAT

[prime isle]

Damn. Feels really shitty to say bye to some of yo old OG carries.

[tiny hare]

Really does man

[rain bay]

i wont be swapping my lucretia ill probably still keep her lol

still occasionally use her

[prime isle]

^.

[chilly narwhal]

Is this a good idea?

[rain bay]

no

[tiny hare]

No

[rain bay]

swapping mythic 4f is a waste of event

save the swap for a cel hypo, or awakened

those are BY FAR best value for swaps

im already happy with the swap i did

atalene for gavus

gavus soloes t7s with lvl 5 mage core in AE xD

[tough loom]

She does, I am gonna wait 8 days

for the chest with flora

then I get 5 star 9 furn flora

[rain bay]

for 5*?

[tough loom]

ez swap

[rain bay]

nice

might as well start engraving her too

[tough loom]

I am just gonna build Alyca naturally

[rain bay]

cause engrave will swap too

and then youll get some engrave started on lava too

[tough loom]

nah, I will not use her the coming 8 days haha

(she is useless outside of PVP)

[rain bay]

the engraving will go to lavatune as well

[tough loom]

I know

not worth the 6 button presses

[rain bay]

lol

[tough loom]

to get it earlier

[unreal arch]

omg this is so nice!

[rain bay]

ikr

[tough loom]

kinda sad I gotta wait

like 2 more months

[unreal arch]

finally a good QOL update!

[rain bay]

agreed

[tough loom]

for Alyca

[rain bay]

i love my Alyca

40960

[safe panther]

Would be kinda cool if one day, there can be 1 swap for each category.

4-faction, celestial & hypogean, and awakened.

Maybe even swap dimensionals. Swaps furniture, engravings, and signature item while also switching their fused heroes.

[tough loom]

I got get a 40960 Alyca rn

if I swap her with Awsolise

but it aient worthit

Solise is actually good as well

and flora is garbage compared to Lavatune

[rain tulip]

I can finally save my time cards :')

[tardy vortex]

Is there a discord for afk journey I wanna share my first pull that I think it’s good

[tranquil barn]

ik this isnt an afk journey server
but bluestacks claims i cant run it

[prime isle]

i sent you an invite

[sudden marsh]

one dude has atleast 10 T8s 😭

[prime isle]

this annoys me so much

there is literally no point

same situation in my militia

[tardy vortex]

tysm

[floral arch]

ayyy ashem to m+

asc on next thursday !

[tranquil barn]

me peacefully waiting for the next awakened so i can finish abel 🗿

[sudden marsh]

is it just me or is abex really easy this time

[tranquil barn]

whats abex

[floral arch]

ae

[sudden marsh]

abyssal expedition

[tranquil barn]

like actually dont know what event it is
ik its abyssal expedition

[sudden marsh]

AE

[tranquil barn]

but idk which event it is

[floral arch]

thee guild one

[sudden marsh]

vault of time

[tranquil barn]

ohhhh

then why call it AE

[sudden marsh]

because that’s the name

[tranquil barn]

i never knew that takes u to the event lol

[sudden marsh]

yea lol

[pliant summit]

u sure you should be talking about guild business here

[sudden marsh]

que

we’re casual arent we

whats the big deal lol

[tranquil barn]

i wanna swap my estrilda for jerome

[sudden marsh]

do it

[pliant summit]

Hah

4f swap

[tranquil barn]

i would do a cel hypo but i dont have any bad ones built

[sudden marsh]

do u have other options?

show box

[tranquil barn]

now there are some choices i made.... just because its my fav hero

[sudden marsh]

ah yes, the obligatory “let me ruin my progress cuz i like this hero”

[sudden marsh]

where

i dont see mistake yet

[tranquil barn]

mulan.

si40

[sudden marsh]

mulan is actually good

[tranquil barn]

i mean the investment couldva gone elsewhere

like athalia

[sudden marsh]

her si40 is dookie tho ngl

[tranquil barn]

yeah i checked it a few hours ago lol

wouldve been best to just keep it

[sudden marsh]

yeah keep, not the end of the world

atleast u did it on a good hero

[tranquil barn]

so im currently building abel and daemia

as for 4f
im waiting for a good lb cuz i have fodder ready for ascended tier im not gonna do sonja
for maulers tbh im just holding out till i find it necessary
wilders im doing nevanthi
gb waiting for 8 edwin copies i dont wanna do hodgkin

[tranquil barn]

so i wanna do jerome for estrilda cuz majority of my built lb are best at backline and the only kinda solid lb frontline i have is estrilda but she dies in an instant
and im more of a pve person and just want something better to put as a lb frontline for tower and i think jerome can help out in campaign too

[sudden marsh]

idk how gb prios have changed

i still like hodgekin but he’s basically a tower hero

good sub in cr tho

edwin better

[tranquil barn]

i mean ive basically done the main gb heroes

[sudden marsh]

same

[sudden marsh]

yeah jerome would help you a lot

[tranquil barn]

so now im building based on who would make the best pve diff

[sudden marsh]

what ascension is your jerome at

[tranquil barn]

e+

3 copies

[sudden marsh]

my ass would lowkey consider swapping thoran for him

[tranquil barn]

thoran is saving one of my campaign comps rn
very good for stalling with liberta

[sudden marsh]

oh true

[tranquil barn]

then abel keeps spamming ult

[sudden marsh]

he works at m si30 for a long time

[sudden marsh]

you can lowkey replace all that with an e mehira

have you seen liberta mehira charm?

[tranquil barn]

yes ive seen it

ive tried it

worked at first

then it just started pissing me off cuz u need liberta to link mehira

[sudden marsh]

it’s a comp in every multi-round stage now

literally all of chapter 49 😭

i just got to chapter 50

[tranquil barn]

if i had mehira at mythic or smth i could consider it but because shes elite its irritating to do

[sudden marsh]

idk, it just works. as soon as mehira can ult, they keep spamming

[sudden marsh]

mines been at Legendary for over a year, no different than e/e+

[tranquil barn]

it works majority of the time
but im just not a fan

[sudden marsh]

understandable

keep the thoran, the 9f helps

[tranquil barn]

mines e+
stargazed 1 copy and got 1 from normal summons
and 1 from stones

[sudden marsh]

w skin

[tranquil barn]

so 1 copy left till legendary

[tranquil barn]

elite chest?
do i smell a thoran cheese?

[sudden marsh]

this is my box rn, gonna swap woke brutus for woke lyca

[sudden marsh]

i genuinely despise thoran cheese. whenever i see it, i either search for a comp without it or make my own

oftentimes the rng isnt that bad, but other comps are way more fun to watch

[tranquil barn]

do u still make use of lucretia?

[sudden marsh]

fuck no 💀💀

[fast rapids]

Should i swap my 2star ascended eorin for daimon?

[sudden marsh]

she’s just a tower hero and i dont even the tower cuz i cant win without having a lucilla

it’s so tedious so i just ignore it

[sudden marsh]

no

[tranquil barn]

i rlly wanna get lucretia
i couldnt 100% enjoy lucretias peak
cuz for some reason i found old afk arena wayyy harder

[fast rapids]

Is there no better carry?

[sudden marsh]

it’s such a shame she fell like that. honestly loved using her

[tranquil barn]

awakened lucretia when

[sudden marsh]

there is many, but daimon is not a valid swap

[tranquil barn]

she needs a comeback

[sudden marsh]

send box

[sudden marsh]

i think next woke is a mauler

[tranquil barn]

yah i heard it was numisu i think

[sudden marsh]

W sup

khasos or vurk would be cool too

[tranquil barn]

skirath

[sudden marsh]

i wonder if woke numisu just slams a huge damage totem down to kill enemies

[sudden marsh]

getting vika vibes. beyblade

[tranquil barn]

i love skirath + mulan

[sudden marsh]

do you have a dimensional key yet?

[sudden marsh]

i only use skraith in 5 pull ngl

[fast rapids]

Idk wat that is

[tranquil barn]

same
eironn lyca skirath tamrus mulan

i need to beef up tamrus

and rowan those are 2 i rlly wanna build rn

[sudden marsh]

In the field of stars at the library - obsiornis constellation

lets you use your dim and dim link together

[tranquil barn]

he cant get a dim key

u need like 15 or 25 ascended tier heroes for one

[sudden marsh]

i like vei here, super strong

[sudden marsh]

you ascend heroes the longer you go

[tranquil barn]

whos better nevanthi or nemora

[fast rapids]

I dont even have that unlocked

[sudden marsh]

just left over copies, no fodder to ascend santrana

[sudden marsh]

oh..

[tranquil barn]

AHH I CAN DO NEMORA FOR JEROME
I HAVE 10 NEMORA COPIES

[sudden marsh]

i would try asking in #classic-questions for more inputs

[sudden marsh]

damn W

worth it

[fast rapids]

Thx

[tranquil barn]

the swap is just like legacy of grit right?

all copies swap

[sudden marsh]

yeah

all copies, gear (if t3/t4), furn, signature item level, ascension, engrave

[sudden marsh]

yup

all copies will turn into jerome

[tranquil barn]

lemme confirm that theresno better option

i wanted to do thali but she gonna have to wait

ok yeah imma do it

[wraith oriole]

Wait how many copies of each do you even have

[tranquil barn]

3 copies of jerome

10 of nemora

[wraith oriole]

Okie never mind was concerned if someone intends to swap E+ for E+ and thinking afterwards new hero get two E+

[tranquil barn]

lol

[rain bay]

Waste

[tranquil barn]

not like im gonna do any other swap with it

[rain bay]

Also I enjoy afk journey so far. Visuals are very good

[tranquil barn]

my laptop cant "run" it

[rose niche]

I always love when a new Hypo/Celestial comes out

[safe panther]

AFK Journey looks amazing. Downside: No Belinda yet. Nor Saurus or Isabella.

[tranquil barn]

are u playing on bluestacks?

[glass star]

At least Antandra is pretty good

[safe panther]

Oh yeah.

She is.

And no, I am not playing on Bluestacks.

[tranquil barn]

why wont bluestacks work ;-;

when i launch the game it says i dont meet minimum requirements

[rose niche]

Any Nara?

[safe panther]

Still no Nara sadly.

You could try Google Play Games on desktop.

[tranquil barn]

it doesnt support afk journey yet

[safe panther]

Can always wait.

[solemn granite]

6 more daya

Days* and I'll have played afk arena for 2 years

[safe panther]

I love how AFK2 has sweep feature for overworld.

Could be cool to backport AFK2 improvements to AFK1.

Particularly:

• Hero management. You will only have 1 copy of a hero in your hero box, ever. Collect copies to ascend your heroes.
• Campaign stage and King's Tower sweep if you're overlevelled.

[rain bay]

I like this as well. The hero part. Haven't gotten to KT yet . But the tokens for ascension is a very handy feature

[rain bay]

Gz

I think im approaching 5? Years

[solemn granite]

I started playing in '19 but I quit lol

Made a new account in 22

[rain bay]

I have been playing since I started June ish 2019 iirc

I think I've missed maybe 2 weeks of logins in total since I started lol

All of those in the first year

[ocean hinge]

i started 3yrs ago oml

started july '21

[rain bay]

Lol

[ocean hinge]

im playing on an r44 acc atm though

[rain bay]

Yeah my 1080 day achievement was June 6th 2022

Aka my 3 year

[blazing knoll]

Anyone have info next awk hero....???

[cerulean kiln]

im about to swap my brutus for woke athalia tonight lol

or shem... but ehhh

[crystal perch]

When did the latest server opened? 😅

[tepid epoch]

who invented 56-44

i want to punch it so bad

[rain bay]

Its not that bad lol

[rain bay]

Was ez

[tepid epoch]

tf i dont have lyca merc

[rain bay]

Lyca is just there for the 500 energy for daemia

Lol

[tepid epoch]

how much deficit was that

[rain bay]

336

Sorry 356

828 rc 1184 enemy

[tepid epoch]

im at 465 level deficit

[rain bay]

OOF

Yeah just a bit of a difference

[tepid epoch]

i was ~380 level deficit before patch

[rain bay]

No

[whole juniper]

Should I make grezhul or Ivan a mythic+ hero first?

[rain bay]

Don't m+ unless u can Ascend

Waste of fodder

[whole juniper]

I can ascend either is the thing

But only one bc of the fodder I have

[rain bay]

Then Ivan imo. Grezhul sadly falling off

[whole juniper]

Aight thanks 🙏

[rain bay]

Ivan is a godly support

[whole juniper]

Fr especially with awakened Shemira

[rain bay]

Grez still used sometimes in CR but not as often anymore

Oh yeah pair Ivan with a hypercarry and they just don't die

Lol

[whole juniper]

Have her, Ivan, and Daimon as my go to-s

[rain bay]

Ivan shields my thesku in campaign and he lives forever most times lol

[whole juniper]

Shemira and Daimon are built, finally got the Ivan stuff

I need to max out canisa and ruke

They pair well with awakened Shemira

So many ability procs

[rain bay]

Ironically cruke also goes with My thesku XD

My most satisfying campaign team ngl

[whole juniper]

Hmmm I’ll have to try that out

[rain bay]

The perma petrify from thesku is satisfying

It won't work without full investment on all of them

Hell, thesku is gigamax

[whole juniper]

I got lucky really early so my grez was mythic for a while but then never got stuff to upgrade him

[rain bay]

4036e80

[whole juniper]

Sheeeesh

[rain bay]

If they release an awakened thesku I'm taking him all the way to 4036100

[whole juniper]

Thesku is one I used a lot for some of the PoT stuff…

[rain bay]

Bit of a thesku simp lol. Love the character design

[whole juniper]

Frrrrr

[rain bay]

I had him 30sig 9f within a month of release

and e60 like a few weeks later

[whole juniper]

Well and it helps that they’ve got good control abilities that with a good number of teams can synergize pretty well

[rain bay]

oh yeah

He also PUMPS out damage with mortas

Pair him with fox beast and there's an infinite cc chain with thesku nuking them constantly

His 4th skill does so much damage to every enemy in front of him

[whole juniper]

I like the gavus Eugene rem combo

[rain bay]

In cone like eironn pull

[whole juniper]

And then whatever tank you’d like

[rain bay]

Eh I don't have Eugene built sufficient yet

[whole juniper]

They unironically pump out so much damage

[rain bay]

Only mythic 30sig

[whole juniper]

And rem is basically invincible once built it’s kinda dumb XD

[rain bay]

Rem is one of my favorite heroes too

4036100

For rem

[whole juniper]

Kinda sad that Ainz has become the end of an era

[rain bay]

Mhm

Unironcally my alt still uses him lol

[whole juniper]

Was looking forward to getting him and then watched him fall right off a cliff 😭

[rain bay]

But I also stopped playing that account a year ago lol

I just picked it back up yesterday

And swapped my awakened talene to shemira

[whole juniper]

I don’t have that kind of time unfortunately 😭

[rain bay]

So I can perma merc a 40sig shemira

She's 409 e40

[whole juniper]

Awakened talene is lowkey kinda good with a bunch of the wilder builds

[rain bay]

While I'm still building her on main I have a perma merc

She's obsolete now sadly

Mostly

[whole juniper]

Her plus thesku in a decent wilder build is kinda fun

[rain bay]

Eh

[whole juniper]

I mean yeah but like for giggles

[rain bay]

True

My fav thesku team is the current one

[whole juniper]

Half the fun is making a team that’s lowkey garbage and somehow does really well

[rain bay]

It's just so strong

[whole juniper]

Valid

[rain bay]

Exactly like my team lol

[whole juniper]

Your thesku team is pretty solid

[cerulean kiln]

thesku is so underrated

[rain bay]

Half my campaign teams are literally just yolo thrown together

I agree

But they're also all so strong

[rain bay]

This is what I'm using:)

[prime isle]

Is there tier lists here ?

New player here :>

[flat venture]

Sheesh, lvl 18 talis dodges all brute's attack

[viscid vale]

No

Flawed method of displaying information

Check the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions

[scenic orbit]

Ya ever just go full tilt on a character just because?

[open geode]

I usually have a reason to be mad at them

ex: Gorvo before I discovered Crassio

[prime isle]

Alright thank uu

[humble flicker]

Guys is Isabella a good character both lore and gameplay wise?

[copper sail]

lore depends on what you mean by good, gameplay no not even a little

[humble flicker]

NOT A LITTLE BIT 😭

I’ve spent like 99.99% of that game building her…

Also I was just on journey and ppl were saying she was a Loli 😭 is this Fkn true

[copper sail]

she’s younger than 18

[humble flicker]

They were saying she was 9 😭

[cunning wigeon]

[copper sail]

i don’t think just her being a kid and also a girl means she’s a loli that’s kinda cringe to say

[humble flicker]

Thank FKN GOD 😭

Bc the whole time the world chat was like dissing me for it

And I was so confused

Bc like

Apparently I was a “ped” for liking her

Thank the stars that’s not a Fkn thing

[copper sail]

calling her a loli in the first place is pedo talk

[humble flicker]

EVERYONE WAS

AND I WAS SO SCARED

[cunning wigeon]

you can keep your opinions to yourself and talk bout it in your head

cause talking bout it here gonna get you labeled the same anyways

[humble flicker]

WDYM

LETS BE VERY REAL RN

I WAS ASKING BC I DIDNT WANNA LIKE A CHARACTER THAT WAS OKAT

PLEASE

[cunning wigeon]

then stop talking bout it

nobody cares who you like

[humble flicker]

OH

OKAY

REAT

WHO TF INVITED YOU?

WAS THIS UR CONVERSATION?

DID ANYONE ASK FOR YOUR OPINION??

UHH I DONT THINK SOO!!

[cunning wigeon]

lol okay snowflake

[humble flicker]

LMAO WHAT

OKAY BUDDY

Embarrassingggg

[cunning wigeon]

yes you are

[humble flicker]

Let’s be honest

[cunning wigeon]

[humble flicker]

Get tf outta here?

No one rlly wanted ur opinion either?

It was just a question whyd u get so mad

[cunning wigeon]

triggered snowflake warning

[humble flicker]

Oh no!!!

S-snowflake!!

Argh! Gosh darn it!! What will I do now!!

[copper sail]

careful yall you might become romantic rivals and end up together at the end of the series

[humble flicker]

I dount it

This guy seems to far up himself to even notice me 😢

[cunning wigeon]

oh woffle staaahppp

[copper sail]

[cunning wigeon]

the nickname already threw me off

[copper sail]

i just came in here to complain about kalthins jawline

[cunning wigeon]

he has one ?

[copper sail]

it’s a bit.. kal- thin

but also, if there’s no cap on removing a heroes AS, then what’s the chance of a hero getting 0 or a negative AS

if i had access to Belinda chat id ask there

maybe someone can relay the question

[cunning wigeon]

nun-sense

[knotty edge]

attack speed is just a bonus, you still attack with 0, and negative attack speed slows your attack rate

[wraith oriole]

So, any consensus so far on this artist thing vs Lucilla?

[copper sail]

oh so 0 is default aight

[wet hedge]

lol that would be funny

slowing it down so much that the hero just stops attacking

and because they are constantly slowed more and more, they never actually get to do their attack

but I don't think AS affects skills, so that might just look like heroes are just waiting to use their skills on cooldown, which is usually the main kit of a hero anyways

so probably won't be super duper useful in most cases

[copper sail]

yeah pretty much what i was imagining

[wet hedge]

it's also bad when you have like mehira or fox

since they just stop hitting each other

I guess you could just rely on bert to dps them

[wraith oriole]

@wet hedge Build build and test test new hero

[rain bay]

Not really unfortunately

[wet hedge]

ok gib money

[rain bay]

Don't u dare be rude to Roxsta

[rain bay]

That would be funny seeing 0 attack speed

Or negative

[wet hedge]

yo can we calm down with the caps spam

[rain bay]

Agreed jd

And being rude to people lol

[wet hedge]

also dude, who cares what people you don't know well think of you, just ignore/block them

[rain bay]

^

[wet hedge]

if you have nothing to be ashamed of there's no need to justify yourself

[rain bay]

Don't go on a rant like a snowflake just because someone says something you don't like

[wraith oriole]

How well will they acknowledge their own existence though

[rain bay]

Lol

[kind vessel]

If you need to rant to acknowledge yourself, maybe you don't exist

[rain bay]

Precisely

Wait a sec

Six

[kind vessel]

What

[rain bay]

When the HELL did you pass me in campaign!?!?!?

[kind vessel]

[wraith oriole]

When you least expected it

[rain bay]

Lol

What rc u at

[kind vessel]

I went from 55-18 to 57-4 yesterday after pcap nerf

Like 729 I think

JD

[rain bay]

Damn so I got 100 on you

[wet hedge]

ok I don't know why that gif is animating so fast, I'll delete

[rain bay]

I'm also at 57-4

Lol

[wet hedge]

s1x started whaling

[rain bay]

I've just slow pushed

[wet hedge]

he said he was doing 100$ a day for the next 2 month

[prime isle]

Nice.

[wet hedge]

[rain bay]

Das excessive lol even for a lie jd

[wraith oriole]

That much money can get you a spot in top 20 AE guild

[wet hedge]

[kind vessel]

If I post this ss everyday, then it means JDs been doing it every month

[rain bay]

If you're gonna lie make it be more believable 😛

[wraith oriole]

Maybe he does stockpile them in form of hoard resource and keep a low profile

[wet hedge]

the point was to make it incredibly unbelievable

[rain bay]

LMAO

[wraith oriole]

And then out of nowhere in 3 months JD just comes on and says "Guys I just pushed into ch65"

[wet hedge]

does ch65 even exist yet

[kind vessel]

Well JDs always been an rc crammer

[rain bay]

I'm just happy with my progress since I stopped spending last August

[wet hedge]

I think I can almost do ch64

[kind vessel]

I forgot whether they added 65 in kalthin patch or not

[wraith oriole]

Beware, ch64 is a different breed of pain

[kind vessel]

Different bread of pain

[wet hedge]

I've heard some horror stories yeah

[wraith oriole]

🍞

[rain bay]

At the end of chap 57 I finally get to e30 enemies

[wet hedge]

but that's fun for campaign enjoyers like me

[kind vessel]

[wraith oriole]

It's fun to pit your own E30s against full E60s

[wet hedge]

where's the fun in blasting through the stages

[copper sail]

🍞

[wet hedge]

it's only fun when there's a challenge, a puzzle to solve, or some optimization that can drastically decrease rng

[wraith oriole]

Well, Adrian is usable at +20

[rain bay]

Meh

I plan on using my current campaign teams until it's literally impossible for me to

[wet hedge]

that's sounds pretty fun

I do that too

[rain bay]

Youve seen my teams?

[kind vessel]

JD going to the bathroom:
Where's the fun in just pulling my pants down, it's only fun if there's a 45 digit lock that I need to crack the code for first

[wraith oriole]

But like, eventually you run into the problem of clear 4 teams and last team always fails forcing you to restart over

[rain bay]

Lol

[wet hedge]

with a lot of inspiration from existing replays ofc, I'm not a mastermind that can handle 25 hero optimal distribution at once

[rain bay]

My fun comps. Only meta one is charm xd

[wraith oriole]

Oh wow no Thoran, I kneel

[kind vessel]

JD what do you do for Mae stages

[rain bay]

I havent used thoran for over 10 chapters

Since before chap 45

[prime isle]

And then your last team that failed before, succeeds now while all your other teams fail.

[wraith oriole]

Borrow god-level Mae like Tzuyu and proceed to clear with minimal fuss

[rain bay]

I havent used thoran in KT for a very very long while either

[prime isle]

Nice. I haven't used Thoran for 14+ Chapters, for a few damn years in fact.

[kind vessel]

I don't want to merc for camp, relax and forget it exist then

[prime isle]

Some fun ass comps.

[kind vessel]

Oh I haven't used Thoran in KT in forever because of pcap

[rain bay]

I havent used thoran in ages cause he's so boring and unreliable

And frequently had to manual his ults which is tedious

[wraith oriole]

Oh my gosh questions channel disappeared for me and I thought I got restricted somehow, turns out my mouse scroll down stopped working

[rain bay]

And I'm probably too high level for thoran to work anyway

Lmfao kisaka

[kind vessel]

KT is just 3t so there's a lot of op bruteforce stuff

[rain bay]

Rekt

[copper sail]

i havnt used thoran in like 5 chapters

[rain bay]

Iirc the last chapter I used thoran was 44- 28?

[copper sail]

maybe 6-7

[wraith oriole]

Get ready... To use Thoran every single X-4 at 60+

[prime isle]

Damn I really accidentally left my phone on screen in the afk arena game, uncharged, then accidentally fell asleep for a few hours now my battery is 35% instead of 100%.

[rain bay]

Maybe 45-28

[rain bay]

Nah

I'll still use my teams

[wraith oriole]

Were you pushing campaign

[rain bay]

I'll just wait till my level makes it possible

[kind vessel]

I haven't cleared a multi without using copy in like 20 chapters

[prime isle]

Nah.

[prime isle]

🤝.

[rain bay]

I'll just stall till my RC makes it possible to hit the chap 60+ stages with my fun comps

[prime isle]

Copying other people's comps be outrageously platitudinous asf.

[wet hedge]

all sorts of creative random BS go

I used to post them here

[kind vessel]

I got somewhat close with some random bs then stopped bothering

[wet hedge]

for instance did you know that ashem and maetria are essentially the same hero

[prime isle]

Oh that's a shame.

[kind vessel]

It's a Mae stage where Fox kills everything and Mae kills the last enemy

[wet hedge]

she literally fits in the exact same slot

[mint girder]

Who should I garrison next? Emilly?

[wet hedge]

and then I slot in like mulan and fox and try to emulate the effect

play around with heroes, put in framton for the lol

[wraith oriole]

Usually Emilia is the second one after Rem

[mint girder]

Alr, thank you ❤

[kind vessel]

Was considering building Fram from NC for the sake of it now that I'm nearly 18 reso

[wet hedge]

there's a lot of new tools that can help replace older tools, sometimes across teams such that you can shift one hero into another team and patch it with the new sub

I love new heroes with interesting pve kits

makes the mix up experience a lot more enjoyable

one common one is swapping atheus for ashem, and then saving your ashem for comps that refuse to work

[kind vessel]

Are you going to get Kalthin

[wet hedge]

idk, I'll see his impact on meta

[rain bay]

@wraith oriole wanna see a replay of thesku comp? Xd

[wet hedge]

I have enough for 1 woke and 1 celepo

but I am also hibernating atm

[kind vessel]

I didn't think I'd have enough but I pushed like 80 of each fac tower & 2 chapters so I have some

[wet hedge]

I still need to write up the seasonality of investment guide

[torn steppe]

🔥

[kind vessel]

A guide by JDseason

[wet hedge]

I'm afraid of spreading the idea out of fear that it might ruin the game for many people though

[kind vessel]

Nah, people won't care

[wraith oriole]

I don't have Thesku built

[rain bay]

Bruh did my screen recording not send?

It says it's uploading in notifications but its not in discord lol wtf

[final sonnet]

Ch32 is gonna give me a stroke

[kind vessel]

And it's probably quite difficult to time 'cashing in your chips'

[final sonnet]

32-60 took almost 5 minutes of straight retries

[prime isle]

Maaaaagnificent.

[torn steppe]

🔥

[rain bay]

Only 5 minutes? God I still remember the SINGLE fight of oneof the 40s chapters that I retried nearly 30 THOUSAND times

[rain bay]

Somehow saf healed 2% hp in the last 3 seconds so I timed out

But perma lockout 😄

Thesku op

[prime isle]

Reeeeal bodacious indeeeed.

[rain bay]

That time it worked lol

[vestal sparrow]

No creativity allowed here, pls use thoran cheese

[prime isle]

Nah muthafucka it's time to be more creative.

Music replay time!

[vestal sparrow]

Sick

[lament bluff]

I went to 65 in stargazers for 3 times in a row. What are the chances the 4th copy also takes 65 pulls?

[wet hedge]

I think people might

it's big enough of a mindset change that it might seriously alter how people treat the game

I think it's a logical extrapolation from the previous ideas I proposed

idk

[kind vessel]

People won't care because they don't care about playing to maximise their lifetime income or peak ranks

Even if they still think you're correct

[copper sail]

if you mean like the temporary-ness of meta and the guides that follow it, i think enough people experience that sort of thing happening first hand pretty quickly to understand, like mishka being one of the first e60 prios when that came out. now for meta purposes those spent mats were wasted

[wraith oriole]

JDeason

[kind vessel]

JDeez

[copper sail]

JupDog

[rancid garnet]

finally cleared terra incognito

now that i've liberta

[copper sail]

not much how bout you

[tacit nexus]

[rancid garnet]

waiting for next awa mauler details

[tacit nexus]

I'm waiting for mommy wilder awakened

[rancid garnet]

still holding out on awakened tasi

[tacit nexus]

Mommyra is not enough I need more

[half escarp]

ulmus

[storm tapir]

Logged in my old account on a new phone. Pretty surprised its been that long

[prime isle]

Still holding out on the next awakened Graveborn.

Alright daaaaaaaaaamn.

[storm tapir]

Last time i played that there were only 3 celestials, and 3 hypos

[vital spruce]

Next awakened is a graveborn?

[crystal quarry]

Rember when it was only athalia and ezizh

When they introduced signature items

[vestal sparrow]

No should be mauler

[pliant summit]

OG 💪 good to have u back

[whole ravine]

Aw Kren

Kren OP

[vital spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/afkarena-warek-fight-video-games-gacha-gif-19734552

[whole ravine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/926718496753221682/warektwerk.gif

@spare wolf 's fav gif

@white bronze too

[rain bay]

I'm waiting for next awakened mauler

I think the next one is graveborn though?

Based on past pattern

[tacit falcon]

Contemplating swap event right now - does it make more sense to swap abrutus with alyca or lucretia with lavatune?

[rain bay]

Wait no it'll be mauler if it follows pattern

[rain bay]

Imo lucretia to lava

Next swap we get I'm probably swapping my Athane away

[tacit falcon]

Because lava can help progress much faster?

[rain bay]

Lava is one of the top tier supports rn

In every game mode

[runic depot]

what is the period of double labrinth coins event? currently 53days until hero swap event ends, so i have 16 more labrinth runs which single gives me ~5600 coins. Doing all 16 runs will give me around 85000 coins. How long lasts double labrinth scrolls event if its enabled?

[rain bay]

Lab of limbo od always 1 week

If there's 2 months left till swap ends you'll get double lab a minimum of two more times

2 or 3

[runic depot]

one limbo affects 3 runs if im not wrong?

[rain bay]

Sometimes 4

[runic depot]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[rain bay]

It all depends on when lab resets . If u hold the run till 2nd day when first day of limbo starts u get 4 runs

Double

It's more or less a Matter of timing it

[runic depot]

aight, thanks a lot

[tacit falcon]

Fair point. Thanks!

[runic depot]

in worst case when with 2x limbo and 4x double runs i will get ~124k lab coins, so i will ascend wukong and swap it xD. Man of Strategy

[tardy root]

Emilia op

Too bad I still die xD

Oh I need naroko

[torn steppe]

How big are brutus alyca? And wich awakeneds do you have ?

[distant badger]

guys what to look in here?

[tacit falcon]

Abrutus 1* alyca legend. Have abel, asolise, abrutus, ashem

[torn steppe]

Personally id swap abrutus to aathalia
BUT
Abrutus is used im nc r1 atm if warek works even if a lil slower the aathalia swap is worth it

The lucre to lavatune is a very solid choice thos awakened are much harder to get then celepoges since they capped at 1 card per day

[tardy root]

whoever u want

[torn steppe]

Aathalia is used every nc and most of crs and shes very solid in ts like very

[distant badger]

what if what i want is suck and useless

[torn steppe]

Alyca you can use emilia as a sub for her in nc
And shes dps in just 2 crs iirc

[tardy root]

Then you get a sucky and useless hero 😄

[torn steppe]

Go to #classic-questions and ask there lol

[tardy root]

Looks like you've been playing long enough to know the difference

[torn steppe]

7 hcp ye

[onyx rose]

greeting frens

[torn steppe]

@tardy root look at his box in questions 🫠

[torn steppe]

Henlows

[onyx rose]

hi hi

[torn steppe]

@white bronze likes them thicc

[tardy root]

lol

[torn steppe]

How you doin fren

[white bronze]

[onyx rose]

cool here how about you

[tardy root]

im going for 5th palmer star on hcp since i only need 1 copy

need 5 star emilia

[torn steppe]

@white bronze

[cunning wigeon]

[rancid garnet]

9k more coins so i can get Mortas to Ascended

[tardy root]

Just blew 4 T4 stone on simona

hopefully worth 😄

My Awshem team was starting to struggle

[wraith oriole]

I thought T4 stones grow on trees

[cunning wigeon]

think you're mixing t4 up with a.. teathree

[torn steppe]

I have 44 unused

[wraith oriole]

See? T3 T4 are free

[patent oriole]

Bare minimum of tier gear on 200lvl deficit is uh, T3 and t4 only for hard carries yes? Cuz some heroes suck ass at T2 wtf

Tier2 gear basically means that hero is getting one shot as soon as the battle starts

[cunning wigeon]

only free if you're a whalewasher

[hearty canopy]

Is it a good choice?

[cunning wigeon]

no

[formal forge]

I returned to the Game this week and need some Help with my Account. (Hero Swap, Line ups, wich Hero to concentrate on, distribution of Materials on Heroes, etc)
Would someone Help me and flex their knowledge?

[west maple]

Hi, @formal forge!

If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help

[hearty canopy]

Why

[cunning wigeon]

cause its bad

[wraith oriole]

Thane is even less used than Brutus

[opaque oxide]

@wraith oriole

I want to ask

Si30 ivan rn or wait for liberta

Only have enough for one

[kind vessel]

Why would you swap from the 4th worst AW to the 3rd worst

[opaque oxide]

And should i use red furniture card for rem

Cuz she is struggling hard

[wraith oriole]

May as well +30 Ivan so you can pass stuff

Also upgrade Rem equips

Use stones if you have to

[opaque oxide]

But no dim gear?

[opaque oxide]

Soo not waiting on liberta

[wraith oriole]

It doesn't matter upgraded gear is still more damage

[opaque oxide]

I thought the t1 chest r rare

[wraith oriole]

You'll swim in those chests sooner or later, when you get through campaign that is

[opaque oxide]

Oaky

Okay

Well

Update

Not enough for si30

💀

[ornate anchor]

is my rem 4/9?

[normal zodiac]

if you can count then yes

[wispy geyser]

yes

[wispy geyser]

hey now, just because he can't count doesn't mean he can't read words

don't be mean

type it in binary

[normal zodiac]

if only i knew binary code

[ornate anchor]

what does 309e41 Rem mean exactly?

[normal zodiac]

my teacher once said you need to have balance in life, its good to be nice but sometimes you can be mean

[wispy geyser]

01101000 01100101 00100111 01110011 00100000 01110100 01111001 01110000 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100001 00100000 01110111 01100001 01110100 01100011 01101000 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110100

[wispy geyser]

#classic-questions pins

[wispy geyser]

please for the love of god, ignore youtube shorts

[normal zodiac]

si30, 9furn and e44 engraving but yes follow nems suggestion

[cunning wigeon]

[wispy geyser]

and si20 is enough

but yes the engraving is accurate there

[cunning wigeon]

no si40 her

[ornate anchor]

ok

[cunning wigeon]

[wispy geyser]

01110010 01101111 01111000 01110011 01110100 01100001 00100000 01110000 01101100 01100101 01100001 01110011 01100101 00100000 01101000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101001 01110100 01101000 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100110 01101001 01110011 01101000

[cunning wigeon]

da da da

[trail cedar]

Yall any got infos

Or leaks

[cunning wigeon]

i got a leaky tap

[normal zodiac]

i was about to type the nword followed by we arent leakers

but i contained myself

[trail cedar]

Comon

Give in to it

Tell mr some infod

[normal zodiac]

no

[trail cedar]

Why

[normal zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/m4rkdoll-gif-5238933771739046910

because i dont feel like it

[trail cedar]

...

The campaign game mod will be what

Like a different mode to clear campaigns?

Easier?

[normal zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-he-talking-about-kyle-broflovski-stan-marsh-south-park-s12e3-gif-21154265

[cunning wigeon]

dons letter

he thinks its instantly gonna be implemented

[wispy geyser]

in 6 days 21 hours come back

test server will have the update live

[normal zodiac]

tf is dons letter?

[cunning wigeon]

doubt intensifies

[wispy geyser]

Don is a chad of a game dev I think

or team lead

but whatever he is, he's a gigachad

[cunning wigeon]

game producer

[wispy geyser]

DONSLETTER is a code for stonks loot

[normal zodiac]

i see

[cunning wigeon]

D0N51ETT3R

[normal zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-find-you-funny-big-shaq-podcast-gif-27067630

[trail cedar]

1 week till we know what the game changing studf is?

[cunning wigeon]

no

1 week till we know if theres any change

[rare carbon]

Holy shit, The AFKGuy's ice debuff treasure scramble guide worked in campaign. I was so stuck on a chapter 34 stage, I thought I needed a merc.

[median fiber]

alright how dog water is wutus now days

[royal bramble]

Should I swap A Talene/Maetria for Shemira or Lucretia for Liberta?

[sudden marsh]

talene to shemira

[lament bluff]

So how good is this Dr Octopus hypo?

[sudden marsh]

shows good results, we dont know his standings in some modes yet

[kind vessel]

Ass

Kalthin's in seal round for kraken CR

[lament bluff]

He used to be in the strongest PVP comp

His unlimited attack speed cap may make him legit in CR I suppose

[quick python]

bow before your new god(leofric isnt good but still 2 celepogs)

[tepid epoch]

yall 56-44 was a bunch of bs

i completed it at 11:30pm last night

[cloud void]

why

[tepid epoch]

there are two comps that are just terrible

one with wilders and the other one where there's a bunch of baloney

[lament bluff]

I am starting to hate faction towers after facing enemies with 9fs

[tepid epoch]

ehh you will be okay

wait until you get to engravings

and then pets

[lament bluff]

This guy tanked for 40 secs. Both Oden and Ivan had +2 collections

The celestial and hypo tower formations are even worse

Thali,Astar,Morrow rinse and repeat

[analog raft]

First time it happens

[lament bluff]

[kindred bloom]

How long is it since s1123 released guys?

And new server get released monthly or once in 2 months?

[kind vessel]

Fac tower, esp cele/hypo get engrave way earlier than KT or camp

[tepid epoch]

ok dorks i swapped morael to lucilla

i cant handle the temptation

[cloud void]

cool

[tepid epoch]

almost to chapter 57

[tepid epoch]

what chapter are you on rn

still 44?

[cloud void]

yep just slowly pushing

[tepid epoch]

ah

[thick hare]

This pcap change helped me push all the way to 2 teams in GB tower lol

[loud crow]

For witch one hero I should Invest elemental cores

I think I will prio Ashemira first then Ivan

[bright spire]

What an account jeez

[loud crow]

Something is wrong ?

[bright spire]

A lot yeah

[loud crow]

Tell me

[bright spire]

But yeah prioritize aShem for now

[bright spire]

A lot of your heroes are bad and/or overinvested

[loud crow]

Like diamon ?

[bright spire]

But I’m not going to go on a rant about your hero choices

[bright spire]

Yep

Just work on aShem 9f an e60 for now

[loud crow]

Diamon is bad but scarlet is carrying me everytime

She’s rly broken

[bright spire]

At what chapter are you? And how old is that account?

[loud crow]

2 yrs old and I’m on 38th chapter

[bright spire]

Nice! If you want you can follow the guide in #classic-questions to get some better heroes ascended

[pliant summit]

I see what u did der 😂😂 @sudden marsh

[rain bay]

What is rem at

[rain bay]

Hey now don't call people out lol

[sudden marsh]

😭

[loud crow]

I maxed her out but she’s useless without this ice witch

[rain bay]

I see 1 glaring issue immediately. No signature 30 rowan

She's is absolutely NOT useless without Emilia

[pliant summit]

[sudden marsh]

is it just me or is the name rowan so beautiful

idk why but i love it so much

rowan.

[loud crow]

Idk she dies rly fast

[rain bay]

Use her with alna

Easy

[pliant summit]

Like u weren't like wtf are u doing urself @rain bay

[rain bay]

Meh

I don't take t8 in ae

I just kill zaph lol

And it counts

[pliant summit]

Is funny he has 10 thou

[loud crow]

I have epic alna

[rain bay]

Rip

Alna rem is insanely strong

But yeah there are issues with your account I see that are obvious

For one, the 30960 normal shemira. The 40960 antandra, lack of signature30 on rowan

Show the rest of your hero box

Have u used the hero swap yet? @loud crow

[floral arch]

Ain’t no way…

U can push to like 40 in a day

With those heroes

Get good comps and just go hard on campaign

[normal zodiac]

its actually easier said than done

even at chapter 39 im limited by my options for teams, saying just get a good team does nothing for him

[cinder glade]

Has anyone else tried afk 2 yet

I haven't installed yet

[safe remnant]

Worth building out? I have Shemira.

[cinder glade]

I wouldnt invest in either tbh

We all know you should invest in Walker, ulmus, and ukyo 👹

JK don't

[rotund crag]

Can someone help me make a team

[west maple]

Hi, @rotund crag!

If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help

[tacit nexus]

Cr use only

But damn if she isn't good there

[mint girder]

What does that mean?

[pliant summit]

Hmm haven't seen that before

Can u go to the hero in ur Hero bag

See if at the top right corner the hero is Locked 🔒