classic-chat

[half escarp]

you click on the borrow button and its automatically yours for a month

[unreal arch]

oh icic

ty

[half escarp]

and the guy you borrow from may not even know

its automated

[floral latch]

Actually that's if they do that

If they're gone for 7 days you can't borrow it

You need active people

[half escarp]

lol

[floral latch]

So if everyone that owns ainz quits you can't garrison him even if it doesn't ask for resources anymore

[half escarp]

so the community keeps them alive

well, those who were there to get it

[floral latch]

That's stated on the rules of the event

[half escarp]

whatever

[floral latch]

Point 8

[vague raptor]

Why nobody loans my dims

[sweet crag]

They could be

[floral latch]

Maybe because you only have old players as friends

[torn steppe]

You can if you have the account added still

[floral latch]

Point 8 above misty

[torn steppe]

Some accs have enable auto send

[floral latch]

It's written on the rules

[torn steppe]

Oh

Nvm me then

I didnt know that was a thing

[floral latch]

Yeah i tried to garrison emilia from someone that was gone for more than 7 days and couldn't

[vague raptor]

I have some new players as well ... guess they get rem/emilia from someone else

[torn steppe]

Rip

But like

[floral latch]

Tbh i only gotten rem from nem

[torn steppe]

You get players to ask frokmn randomly

Its not just your fr list

Isnt that how new players get em

[floral latch]

I can get emilia only from you once I'm done with rem if you want @vague raptor

[vague raptor]

I got mine from my guildies

[vague raptor]

Sure

[floral latch]

Fr list and guild

That's it

[floral latch]

I'm getting one at the time rather than going around grabbing many

I just want them done one by 1 basically

[vague raptor]

That's what I did, except one time when I did both albedo and queen I think

[floral latch]

After emilia I'll go for albedo

[vague raptor]

I don't posses albedo, so it's gonna be someone else.

[floral latch]

Too bad you can't get it done at once if you want

The max you can do is twice a month

Well actually 2 times the first month and then 1 at the month

[balmy falcon]

Which pull is better

[floral latch]

Like you're on day 29 and you grab another 30 days making it 59, then you gotta wait till day 29 to grab again and so on

[sweet crag]

Whalia if you have neither

[ember thunder]

Now that my Anty is +50 please open e100 to 4F heroes and make the stars black thank you Lilith

[floral latch]

Now I'm saving my resources in case they do a double dimensional collab so i can have them both

[vague raptor]

Might be announced soon

Dunno

RH was November?

[floral latch]

I don't want to miss another one and wait 4 months to grab them from whatever

[floral latch]

I was here when he was announced

[vague raptor]

Yeah, always grab the dims

[floral latch]

I think

I was so pissed i almost quit because of robin

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

Was at 59/60 so i couldn't exchange him

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

Never happening again

[sweet crag]

Well at least Robin is not broken

He does have use in ashem team tho

[vague raptor]

Yeah

[floral latch]

Honestly idc if they're broken or not, i just want them all cuz i like collecting f2p stuff

[vague raptor]

Gotta grab them all

[floral latch]

I have 45/60 joan and 30/60 robin in bag

But now can't grab more for the time being cuz I'm saving

You need how many stones for the garrison, 600 for each? @vague raptor

[vague raptor]

Yup

100 per month, for 6 months

[floral latch]

So there's 12

That means that i need 7200 stones

Well less now but yeah

[glad sand]

Engraving mats?

[floral latch]

200 each month that means that i need over 3 years just to have them all

Actually exactly 3 years

2400x3

[floral latch]

Nah we talking about garrison

[glad sand]

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

So i need 3 years to have all the heroes from there

[glad sand]

If the game survives that long

[strong sleet]

I hope it doesnt

Itd be funny to see all these p2ws waste their money

[floral latch]

That's a brokie mindset

That money is spent towards entertainment

So that's never a waste

[safe panther]

Next update is so disappointing.

[floral latch]

Wdym

The patch notes isn't even out yet

[safe panther]

https://redd.it/1ak9oev

[floral latch]

How can they get a patch notes if not even the test server has it

[safe panther]

Lilith should also disable custom avatars ahead of gifting event.

[mortal roost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1akjjc0/ghoulish_gallery_collections_guide/

[floral latch]

Looks fine to me

Heroes of esperia i can finally try that event out

Everytime they do one of those beast grounds that's just free goodies

[glad sand]

Because of the thots?

[safe panther]

Yes.

Disable custom avatars so they will be forced to choose their favourite hero avatars.

[floral latch]

[floral latch]

You must have the weirdest kinks on this server

You're getting bothered by the things that shouldn't bother you in the slightest

[safe panther]

Or rather, put players on equal playing field.

Just have Lilith automatically deny all irl girl pictures.

[floral latch]

So if a girl wants to put a pic of herself she shouldn't be allowed to because you don't like that?

That sounds kinda insecure to me

[rancid yew]

but how would you scam some players to give you vip15 if not by making them believe you are a girl with an irl girl pfp? D:

[safe panther]

Easy, you don't.

[rancid yew]

well thats no fun

[little vessel]

just change demographic, use anime girls instead

[rancid yew]

[safe panther]

For a change, just completely disable custom pictures for the duration of the event.

When the event is over, custom avatars are restored.

[verbal pawn]

damn not bad for 7 hours

[pastel cave]

Who to +40 first? Jerome/palmer? Or someone else?

[floral latch]

Crazy to watch those convos that happened 3 years ago about dimensionals and see that nothing has changed ever since

[clever dagger]

I love double dims

[verbal pawn]

Those are both pretty dangerous choices because they are prime candidates to steal support buffs from the carry

Dim releases are great just because f2p doesnt get heroes fully built that cheaply anywhere else

[floral latch]

@clever dagger I'm starting to like a bit reddit ngl, never used it before

Those kind of posts give me motivation lmao

[rancid yew]

holy i'm happy to have like 10k diamonds and that guy has over 1m D:

[floral latch]

[vale citrus]

I've been playing everyday for minimum 2 hours for the last 59 days (f2p) and I feel like I'm a little stuck and unable to progress since there are 3 teams needed for each stage.

Any ideas/ constructive criticism are appreciated

[tardy root]

Hmm

The eternal question

Rowan or ivan

🤣

Naroko si30 disappointed me

[mighty wasp]

I need a mentor that can give me the lab task 🤔 i need rem asap

[tardy root]

I can't mentor anyone else for a couple hours I think

I'll just do rowan si30 ig..

Done

[floral latch]

For what reason you still decided to go for naroko over ivan

And you still picked someone else over ivan

[tardy root]

Cause my rem kicks ass lol

[floral latch]

You get to the point when progress goes slower, that's one of that cases

[tardy root]

I'll do ivan next ig

[floral latch]

Someone else would be able to kick ass even better with ivan

[tardy root]

Yeah naroko not good choice

It's ok

[floral latch]

Even palmer would've been better than naroko

[tardy root]

Lol

K bro

[floral latch]

K bro

It's the truth

[tardy root]

Lol idk why you're lecturing me 🤣 I already did it and can see. XD

[floral latch]

I'm not lecturing you

[slow plume]

Palmer is far from prio

[floral latch]

I just try to see the logic behind your weird decisions

[tardy root]

Lol cause if it actually made naroko significantly stronger it woulda been cool

[floral latch]

[tardy root]

It got me like 2 mauler floors that I probly already had from rc anyways 🤣

[floral latch]

Anyway that account seems to be lucky

You must've had above 3% rates for shemira

[tardy root]

?

Idk about that

[floral latch]

I'm marian dude, i know your account

[tardy root]

Lol

[floral latch]

We from the same server remember

[tardy root]

Yeah I had decent luck on ashem

Lyca moving slowly

[floral latch]

Definitely above decent

[tardy root]

Her si30/40 seems worthless

[floral latch]

She's already done and you onto your second awakening that's mythic

[tardy root]

This is s1099 acc

Sure you're not mixing them up?

[floral latch]

You sure?

[tardy root]

Yea

[floral latch]

Oh yeah m1

Nvm then

You got this weird fetish of using the same name with a different number

It gets confusing at times

[tardy root]

Hey before it was same name with same number

[floral latch]

Ye that makes sense

[latent inlet]

whats a good liberta+scarlet combo

[tardy root]

To not do that

[floral latch]

I wonder if the trial of lucius gonna help me out finish chapter 34 @tardy root

[tardy root]

Dunno

[latent inlet]

whats a good liberta+ivan combo

[floral latch]

When atheus came out his trial helped me clear chapter 33

[tardy root]

Lol I've been lazy to push campaign last couple weeks

I should try again now with all the new stuff I got

[floral latch]

What's your rc on the m2 account

I kinda wanna keep track so when i use my resources at the end I'll see what rc difference there is between us

[tardy root]

Lol

Idk

287 apparently

[floral latch]

You up to date with leveling up?

[tardy root]

I mean it'll probly go up a couple if I do faction tower push

I'll try after reset xD

[floral latch]

Been awhile since i pushed tower cuz i can't really do much

[tardy root]

Yea

[floral latch]

Probably I'll push alot on the lightbearers with the trial of lucius

[tardy root]

Lol my alyca rush slow me down a lot on M2

[floral latch]

Rn it's like floor 184 or so

[tardy root]

In multiple ways

1 cause I don't have ashem and 2 cause I took alycas worthless si30+40

[floral latch]

Well

Yeah i guess

But one si40 wouldn't have made that big of a difference

For someone else i mean

[tardy root]

I don't even get the point of alyca si30+40

Nah the si30 was waste for sure tho

Happens tho

[floral latch]

This early it's not that impactful because your stats are minuscule still

Endgame it probably matters more

[tardy root]

Idk about that

Lol

[floral latch]

Well, when you have 100m atk or whatever, 20% atk increase makes a difference

I'm speaking of raw stats

[tardy root]

Bruh I went 39 to 40 vs a boss and my dmg went up like nothing

[floral latch]

That's what I'm saying, your stats are still minuscule

[tardy root]

I don't fully understand her skill I think

[floral latch]

So the difference isn't noticable

The higher your rc goes up the more it will make a difference

[tardy root]

Lol all the dmg was on alyca too, like I think it could be from her stats lmao

Is w/e

[floral latch]

The extra stats matter more endgame than early

[tardy root]

I think alyca just doesn't need si30 even

[floral latch]

For us si40 won't look that big for a while

[tardy root]

Cause her 9f will trigger without it

It's no difference in pvp besides the stats

[floral latch]

Ofc in pvp you ain't gonna notice it

It's mostly for pve

[tardy root]

No difference in campaign either

[floral latch]

Bruh you even reading what am i saying

[tardy root]

Lol I read some nonsense about stats not mattering early

[floral latch]

Ofc you ain't gonna notice much of a difference if you have like 500k atk and get a 20% boost

[tardy root]

Like literally noone does flat dmg

[floral latch]

If you have milions of atk it becomes more noticable

[tardy root]

Name one skill that does flat dmg?

On any char

[floral latch]

Skills do dmg based on your stats

[tardy root]

Exactly

[floral latch]

If your stats are low so will the dmg

[tardy root]

Yeah so 20% of my smg is 20% of my dmg. Wdym more noticeable

[floral latch]

So if you have 500k atk and get a 20% increase while the enemy has 1 mil def you ain't noticing much

Get it now?

[short iris]

I mean idk how noticable would it be, because higher attacks means far tougher enemies

[tardy root]

Yeah

[floral latch]

Yes but that also depends on how high their base stats are (endgame compared to early)

[tardy root]

But I was just surprised cause the boss I was fighting wasn't killing me or anything so I thought slyca si40 would ramp up but it didnt

[floral latch]

In terms of the difference between the two

[tardy root]

In campaign, alyca si40 won't ramp up that much cause fight end too fast

[short iris]

Tbh i think everyone should look at the marginal side of upgrades instead of numbers, but you could probably do a comparison and see if indeed a 20 percent more damage is more noticable on low rc low chap or high rc high chap

[floral latch]

I feel like the gap in stats difference between endgame and early is much lower

[tardy root]

Either I misunderstood alyca si40 or it just doesn't work.. either one wouldn't surprise me ig

[floral latch]

You probably just didn't take into consideration the enemy stats

Which is why it feels to you underwhelming

[tardy root]

Mmm maybe..

[floral latch]

Maybe that stat increase you get early isn't enough to compensate the gap to the point to where it becomes a noticable difference

That's why i believe that in endgame it matters more

But I don't have an endgame account so I can't do such testing to find out

[dusk pebble]

@rugged sorrel

[floral latch]

@wet hedge you made any si40 yet?

@wanton niche or you

[wanton niche]

No

40 sig is overrated for old heroes

I’m saving for new ones

[clever dagger]

new heroes will be designed around it

[floral latch]

True

[torn steppe]

You gon build awlucious day1

To si40?

[wanton niche]

No lol

[floral latch]

Was just curious if the stats difference in-game was more noticable than it is early for sig 40

[wanton niche]

He gets 30

[torn steppe]

Lol

[wanton niche]

Then we’ll see if he’s worth more

[floral latch]

Like if that extra stats boost would actually make a difference endgame

[torn steppe]

Imagine they make what makes him work at si40

[torn steppe]

Depends

Like nc r4

You want scarlet highest power

So if your jerome too big even ifyou take t4s

Then si35 would be nice ig

[floral latch]

That's not what i meant

[torn steppe]

Otherwise the small stats dont matter as much

[floral latch]

What i mean is that for example early game if you have 500k atk and get a 20% boost from si40 you wouldn't notice it as much, i was wondering if the same applies to endgame

[wanton niche]

Whatever happens, I’ll manage it

[torn steppe]

Tru

Im here tryinh to convince dark not to si50 him

[wanton niche]

Simps gonna simp

[torn steppe]

I mean his name was litterly i am lucious and he litterly had maxed oldlucious lol

I made him reset him lol

[wanton niche]

There are heroes I like but I don’t make stupid choices for those reassons

[floral latch]

Hold up, something ain't right @wanton niche

[torn steppe]

Lab?

[floral latch]

Ye

[wanton niche]

Yeah, I’m getting pinged too damn much that’s what’s up

[torn steppe]

Mb b

[floral latch]

@wanton niche true, we apologize

[wanton niche]

Predictable

[floral latch]

Here's a barry

[wanton niche]

[torn steppe]

It was me barry

💀

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

You don't look like iris

[torn steppe]

Whos iris

Amicitia?

[wanton niche]

Nah Iris is the stripper name Apple Siri uses

[wanton niche]

[torn steppe]

I never watched flasg

[floral latch]

You still know who she is tho

[torn steppe]

But theres the it was me barry memes

[floral latch]

[wanton niche]

It was garbage. You’d love it.

[torn steppe]

Why would i love garbage

[floral latch]

It would've been great if he kept the superior gf

[torn steppe]

Doesnt look familiar

[wanton niche]

Idk but max Lucius seems pretty garbage

[torn steppe]

But thats not mu choice

[torn steppe]

He spent his descision lol

[floral latch]

This should've been his gf not iris

[wanton niche]

I never watched the show

I don’t recognize any of those guys

[floral latch]

I did the first 3 seasons

It was actually decent

Past that it wasn't nice from what I've heard so i didn't bother

[floral latch]

His si40 will make him broken trust

[torn steppe]

He meant old one

[floral latch]

That's why they given out so many white chests, so when the time comes most would've wasted it

[torn steppe]

Meh you can still farm reds

Si40+ is meh

[floral latch]

Yeah and upgrade it for free in 5 months

[torn steppe]

Just si40 is enough

[wanton niche]

Nah just 30

Ain’t worth more

[torn steppe]

Not for every hero thos ofc

[wanton niche]

Worst awakened in a while

Gavus was mid, and this guy looks worse

[floral latch]

His si40 will definitely give him another effect on top of what he does

I'm not expecting anything less from Lilith

[wanton niche]

It’s a good thing tbh

[torn steppe]

I mean we only know lucious skills
We dont have his si furn

[wanton niche]

Too many meta heroes is a pain in the ass

[floral latch]

We do till 30

I don't feel like he's gonna be worse than gavus tho

Actually i might have to download the test server again to try him out with them 5fps

[torn steppe]

Gavus is good still tbh but he aint top 5

[main tree]

It makes me cry

[torn steppe]

I mean vika is absolutely mid

And malkeries Doesnt seem that vital

[wanton niche]

He ain’t top 25

[wet hedge]

Not yet

[wanton niche]

He has the weakest impact in teams he’s in

[torn steppe]

Between awakenes

He aint top 5

[wanton niche]

He’s so blah

[wet hedge]

They are inbuilt

[wanton niche]

You can skip him and lose maybe 2%

[floral latch]

He ain't top 10 either

[wet hedge]

It's woke skill system remember

[wanton niche]

Waste of resources

[torn steppe]

He definitely is lol

[floral latch]

🧢

[torn steppe]

Yes but we dk furn and si skills

[floral latch]

Which awakening is worse than him as of now

[wanton niche]

We do. They’re all inbuilt.

Misty drunk again smh.

[torn steppe]

How so?

[wet hedge]

I disagree with gavus priority ranking

It's different depending on roster

[floral latch]

I told you early we do but you ignored

[torn steppe]

I didnt see in your news in your server@wanton niche

I just saw the 5 skills

Or am i just drunk again and aw lucious is lucious tier

[floral latch]

The make it or break it for lucius will come down to either heroes gonna go past his shield and nuke him or not

[wanton niche]

Who’s even making priorities for awakened anymore lol

[wet hedge]

Misty, look at the skills of the other awakened

[torn steppe]

With no redeeming skills

[wet hedge]

And look at their sig and furn

It's just the skills

[wanton niche]

Skill 2 is signature. Skill 3 is furn. Skill 4 is engraving.

[wet hedge]

Awakened heroes have a lot less skillups than normal heroes do

But they are still stronger because they are tuned to be stronger

[floral latch]

Honestly if the shields work the way i expect them people are judging him too quickly

If he works like he gets nuked and enemies just avoid the shields all toghether then he's shit

[torn steppe]

I see damn

He is so shit then

[floral latch]

I'm actually expecting his shields to work as cheat deaths

[torn steppe]

Hes just shield and some dr

[wet hedge]

A lucius sounds like he gives everyone wukong passive

[wanton niche]

Yes, he’s mid lol

[wet hedge]

Which is not bad, but like

Not super impressive

[torn steppe]

I thought i only read the 5 skills

[wet hedge]

Especially for woke

[torn steppe]

But if thats includinh everything

He seems old hero tier

[floral latch]

He's still better than gavus even without having to see him in game

He's got a beard, that already puts him above

[wet hedge]

Why are you bashing on gavus

[torn steppe]

Gavus brings instant dr for anti burst hes still better IMO

[floral latch]

Cuz he trash

[wet hedge]

Based off what

[floral latch]

Ain't no way that a f2p would build him in the following 5 years unless they just simping

[torn steppe]

Jd has him

And jd is f2p

[floral latch]

You said enough caps already today

[torn steppe]

Now marian will bring the argument that jd is old f2p

[wet hedge]

He adds significant value in CR and TS

[wanton niche]

That’s a bold claim

[wet hedge]

Not really

[floral latch]

Jd ain't no f2p all toghether

[torn steppe]

He is

Hes litterly vip 10

[wanton niche]

He’s done sweet eff all being missing in CR on my alt

[wet hedge]

CR stall he adds like 3b

[wanton niche]

I merc him, gained not enough to matter in any team

[floral latch]

Show me jd your hero purchase

[wanton niche]

Better off with a different one

[floral latch]

[torn steppe]

Last cr even with shit rng he was needed no?

[wanton niche]

Having the right collections matters more than having Gavus to my alt

[torn steppe]

I mean yeah ofc butvif you have a good level 3 wings on your alt would be good no?

[floral latch]

Misty you're on a streak of bad takes lately

[torn steppe]

Breh

[floral latch]

Are you ok?

[torn steppe]

Youre like chap under 40

We talkinh bout smth end game

[floral latch]

And i still have better takes than you

[forest blaze]

🍿

[wet hedge]

TS he boosts Abel from trash tier to decent

[torn steppe]

@wet hedge what would you rank him in prio list overal

[main tree]

Ive just been using lyca version and getting 60%

[floral latch]

That just proves more and more that he's as low as possible on the priority list

[torn steppe]

SHe was getting 85 with gavus

[wet hedge]

Misty performs very decently across the game modes, and has access to a lot of resources, she knows what she's talking about

[torn steppe]

Exept early game

[floral latch]

Doesn't look like it

[wet hedge]

She does overlook things, but then hey she's also human

[torn steppe]

Im almost clueless there

[torn steppe]

[wet hedge]

Early game is just rem Ivan now

[summer sluice]

[wet hedge]

[main tree]

I mean I learned a few things from Misty

[torn steppe]

Like prios building wise a shi

[summer sluice]

Ami certainly did didnt they

[floral latch]

She has decent Performance because she has an account that allows her to perform decent, doesn't mean that her takes aren't wrong most the time

[main tree]

I've learned a lot from Ami

[summer sluice]

Not what I meant lol

[torn steppe]

@main tree nah hes baseless accusing me of leaking to ami

[spare wolf]

if most people give advice as much as misty does, theyre not gonna be 100% right on everything either

[floral latch]

True

[summer sluice]

[spare wolf]

easy to just say someone is wrong all the time from the sideline

[summer sluice]

I will say Misty is helpful in most situations though for sure

Wont deny that

[main tree]

I mean no one is 100% correct ever

[floral latch]

I didn't say that she's wrong all the time, i said that she had a lot of bad takes lately

[summer sluice]

Sometimes you fall into a rutt, it happens

Misty has helped me personally quite a few times

[torn steppe]

Other then the early game thing name another bad take?

@floral latch

[main tree]

I mean whale behaviors

[torn steppe]

[floral latch]

You arguing with me for over 30 mins that people should rush into building eugene as quick as possible even if they lack the core that makes him as important

[torn steppe]

Thats the early game thing

[floral latch]

[torn steppe]

[summer sluice]

Eugene is busted even as a Mythic

Im gonna agree with Misty on that

[torn steppe]

Name smth other then that

[main tree]

Actually she is correct to rush him

[summer sluice]

Hes probably gonna be a great choice

[floral latch]

But he's not busted enough to justify grabbing him from rift if you don't have other core heroes/awakenings build

[torn steppe]

@summer sluice marian perspective is as a new player

[main tree]

I would grab from rift tbh

[torn steppe]

They saying better getting resources over eugen when you just starting so its not absolute prio to get him

[main tree]

Faster you get him built the bigger advantage you have in every game mode

[floral latch]

The argument was that 40te+stargazers was a higher priority than grabbing him

[sweet crag]

This is the only rift needed to take him

[summer sluice]

Resources idk, i think i’d take Eigene over resources first

[wet hedge]

I mean relative to her account strength

[summer sluice]

I would say no personally

40 TE is not a guaranteed Woke

[sweet crag]

as next one he will already be 1*

[summer sluice]

You can buy a guaranteed woke

For the same cost

[wet hedge]

she reads a lot of stuff, trust me she knows what's up most of the time

[summer sluice]

Seems safer even as a new player to go for the guarantee

[spare wolf]

okay you can enjoy your ascended eugene with a star 4 years from now

[torn steppe]

@summer sluice my argument was1 unsummonable eugen vs 40 te id take euegn anytime
But you could also say that 1 eugen would be more helpful as a belinda starting out

[summer sluice]

Yeah for sure I agree with that 100%

[main tree]

Zappy where is my Eugene copys 💢

[wet hedge]

uh

[summer sluice]

Guaranteed Woke > 40 TE and no Guarantee

[wet hedge]

I'd rather the TGs

[summer sluice]

I’d take the guarantee everytime

[wet hedge]

new players don't need to rush into eugene

but they do need to rush into ashem

[torn steppe]

Id start getting him after i finish ashem and abelinda

[summer sluice]

New player likely wont get any woke at all from 40 TE

[floral latch]

So if you didn't have already most of the core awakenings built you'd go for a copy of eugene rather than 40 te and 40 stargazer cards to summon for whatever you deemed worthy?

[torn steppe]

Abel and ashem i think would be better value for new

Even in long run

[summer sluice]

I would in this case yes because 40 TE doesnt guarantee you a copy of a woke hero and the actual copy of Eugene itself is guaranteed

The value is better overall

[main tree]

I mean its best to go for Eugene as new player cause from just starting without the recent events it'll take a player around exactly a year without Trift

[floral latch]

I consider a better value being able to pick what you can summon for and be able to get 1 or more copies on that rather than going for something that's predetermined

[torn steppe]

Eugen is strong af too but issue is we dk exactly how strong yet

[floral latch]

And that also applies to events and so on, if you don't have at least reso 12 i see no reason to pick up eugene over baits

[torn steppe]

But in like 6 weeks well know

[summer sluice]

The chance of getting a copy with 40 TE is not very high to be honest

I already bought the eugene from trift so, im biased ofc

[torn steppe]

You can getbto 76 cards for 1 copie in te

[floral latch]

It is fairly high, that's around the average

[floral latch]

66

[torn steppe]

When i was f2p awbrutus took me 710 cards

[summer sluice]

One thing i have learned is the average is never the average lol

[torn steppe]

77

[summer sluice]

Most of my Awakened heroes have taken me over 650 cards

Thane was like 720

[floral latch]

That's just you being unlucky

[summer sluice]

Every single time?

[floral latch]

The average to build up an awakening is like 600 te give or take

[summer sluice]

Means the average isnt real. Lol

Its a number people look at with hope only to be shut down

[forest blaze]

i still need to get to the card part... I'm only on chapter 14 ...

[floral latch]

66 is the pity

[torn steppe]

You can not average out fir a long time

[summer sluice]

No it isnt

[vague raptor]

[summer sluice]

71 is the pity

[torn steppe]

Go ask belinda te doesnt have pity

[summer sluice]

Or 70 one of those

[floral latch]

66 is exactly the pity

[torn steppe]

I have summoned alot of te and i have gotten to 70+ before

[main tree]

75

[summer sluice]

Belinda will always say no pity

Everytime

[wanton niche]

149

217

[main tree]

Bingo

[wanton niche]

2319

[floral latch]

If you summon 10x 7 times ofc it's gonna show up on the 7th pull if you get to the pity

[sweet crag]

you're forgetting the + there

[floral latch]

Just do singles and it's never gonna go past 66

[main tree]

If the timecards says bingo its pity

[torn steppe]

Ive gotten the copie after the 7th 10 pull

[summer sluice]

You pull 1x

You’re crazy

Lmao

[wet hedge]

40 is the average number of pulls for an awakened though

[floral latch]

That's cap

[wet hedge]

not to mention having an extra copy of ashem is a lot more valuable than an extra copy of eugene

and that's ashem

[torn steppe]

Breh
Person saying its cap doesnt even have 1 awakened ascended

[wet hedge]

TGs are great in that they are super flexible

[floral latch]

I've actually used only singles on one account and it never went past 66

[wet hedge]

and in a gacha that has a constantly rapidly evolving like afk arena

having that flexible is super important

[torn steppe]

You need a bigger sample

[sweet crag]

And that can just be your luck wow

[wanton niche]

I have 10 awakened at 5* and an 11th at 1* on one account, and another account where they’re all 5*. I’ve never gone past 70 once.

Humans are shit at measuring this by memory.

[floral latch]

Yeah so my luck it stops at exactly 66 3 times in a row?

[sweet crag]

yeah totally

[torn steppe]

If humans are shit then couldnt you also be wrong?

[wanton niche]

That’s the joke

[torn steppe]

[wanton niche]

It doesn’t matter what anyone says

[summer sluice]

I prefer guarantees over everything else

So I will always take the guarantee

[main tree]

God I gazed 300 times and still haven't gotten a Walker copy

[floral latch]

Ofc you gonna get some on the 7th 10x if the guarantee is at 66, since the 7th 10x is that 66th pull

Common sense doesn't work anymore in here?

[summer sluice]

The point is that nobody 1x draws

If they do they’re crazy

Lol

[upper sluice]

first let me hop out the porsche

[floral latch]

I did for that exact reason and it always stopped at 66

[torn steppe]

@sleek sun did it

[floral latch]

It never went past 66

[torn steppe]

And @wet hedge too

For like 500+ cards

[wanton niche]

@sleek sun is a clown

[upper sluice]

i do because im impatient and lazy

[wanton niche]

@wet hedge is too

[summer sluice]

I would never 1x draw

Lmao

[wanton niche]

[main tree]

I mean I do 1x only at final copy needed

[floral latch]

I can make 20 accounts and try on all and i can guarantee you that the pity is at 66

[torn steppe]

It was back when jono debunked that 1pull has better rates iirc

[main tree]

Like i have 2 maetria copys extra

[wanton niche]

10 pull with 1 copy left or no balls

[wanton niche]

You mean when he perpetuated, incorrectly, that singled were better?

[torn steppe]

No balls

[sweet crag]

And sample would still be too low to determine it

[main tree]

I only do it with timecards

[wanton niche]

Y’all really just making shit up now

[torn steppe]

He did have a large sample
I never bealived it

I prefer 10x

More satisfying

[floral latch]

I feel like I'm speaking to toddlers sometimes

[brisk ferry]

ew c'mon NOOO!! I tried to get my perfect combination till last second and wante dto pick what I had last second but it said I had to wait 5 seconds before being able to confirm and my selection so I missed the 1 ashem 1 Chimera and 1 epic

[floral latch]

[brisk ferry]

this is the worst!!

[wanton niche]

Grats

[torn steppe]

You had over 30 days

[floral latch]

You had 60 days fam, your fault for waiting on the last 5 seconds

[torn steppe]

Unles you started today

[main tree]

Misty throw me some sg so I can 3☆ lyca

[torn steppe]

Sent

[brisk ferry]

well I already had a pretty good combination, ashem, chimera and 1 epic was pretty hard to top,

[main tree]

Thanks

[floral latch]

Who tf is chimera

[torn steppe]

Ashem + lib lol

[sweet crag]

Cruke

[brisk ferry]

canisa and ruke

[torn steppe]

Canisa and rukr

[floral latch]

And why is it called chimera

[sweet crag]

He's a chimera

[torn steppe]

Cz its a chimera

[sweet crag]

[spare wolf]

i always 10 pull even with 1 copy left, rng gods decide my fate

[torn steppe]

Geez its likr explaining to a toddler sometimes 🤣🤣🤣@floral latch

[sweet crag]

[floral latch]

They look nothing like a chimera

[main tree]

Because it's got a goat lion and snake qualitys

[floral latch]

A chimera is a lion with wings

[sweet crag]

Not like Chimeras have a specfic form they need to be

[brisk ferry]

I'm joking BTW, I picked my rewards 20 seconds before the end so the 5 seconds delay didn't prevent me from claiming them

[summer sluice]

Depends on who’s depicting

[torn steppe]

Lion snake deer

[summer sluice]

Some chimera art doesnt have wings

[brisk ferry]

I just thought it was funny

[torn steppe]

Wings is a griphon

[summer sluice]

[vague raptor]

[brisk ferry]

did I just start a chimera debate? cool!

[torn steppe]

Nope its a one sided thing

[main tree]

Idk I loved quite a bit of mythology stuff

[torn steppe]

Everyone vs 1

[forest blaze]

I'm a mythology nerd sorry

[torn steppe]

Same

[main tree]

Especially history

[floral latch]

A gryphon is a big bird

[forest blaze]

[floral latch]

Yeah he's not a chimera then

[torn steppe]

Litterly what i said

[floral latch]

[sweet crag]

what

[torn steppe]

Eagle with lion body

[main tree]

Honestly I loved these things in Ark

[floral latch]

Gryphon is an eagle with an eagle body

[summer sluice]

They were so fast after the nose dive

[floral latch]

[torn steppe]

I feel like marian is bored and just want to pixk fights w everything and everyone

[main tree]

Until they fucked up its model

[main tree]

Ik

[sweet crag]

Yeah seems like it

[forest blaze]

i don't fucking know either,

this man is delulu out of his head

[main tree]

I would just sweep 1 tap shit

[floral latch]

Well, took you a bit to figure out

[torn steppe]

I did 20 mins ago when you started arguing about pity

[sleek sun]

[main tree]

Just Ark went to a bad direction slowly with the tek shit

[torn steppe]

@sleek sun hihi

[floral latch]

[forest blaze]

good job at wasting everyone's time like the insignificant person you are

[brisk ferry]

I wanted Ashem and lavatune personnally, my problem was that I already had deamia, liberta and chimera built, so the only one from the celhypo pool I needed was lavatune which made getting the combination of ashem (the one I absolutely wante dto get from that event) and the right epic hero not super easy

[torn steppe]

Btw people setup macroes

[floral latch]

No need to be that butthurt, it ain't that deep

[torn steppe]

A program that detected the heroes and stopped whne you got who you needed

[floral latch]

Or they get what they want the first 5 mins like i did

[brisk ferry]

noice!

[floral latch]

[torn steppe]

Ive seen people who it too over10 hours of summoninh to get the perfect pull

[brisk ferry]

including specific 4f?

[torn steppe]

Same i had all the celepogesi wanted i just searched for gavus and stopped

[sweet crag]

If you do it for like 5h manually wtf are you doing with your life

[floral latch]

Got ashem liberta and naroko the first 5 mins and dipped out

[torn steppe]

Its what you teach it
You just ss the hero you want and program it to look for both the heroes you want before saving

[main tree]

It was amazing when it came to liberal and daemia 5☆ gazing

[torn steppe]

Ok wtf

[floral latch]

Then i wasted like 4 days on the test server

It is what it is

[torn steppe]

How big is your liberta atm?

[brisk ferry]

I got Alyca liberta and double 4f on the first 5 pulls, took me 40 minutes to get ashem, chimera +1 4f after that

[main tree]

3014E67

5☆

[floral latch]

@summer sluice I'll do only singles on December btw, and see if I'll get a pity past 66 on te

Probably gonna be over 1k tickets

[torn steppe]

Poggers

Duck event

[gusty notch]

Where is palmer in wish finder event

[torn steppe]

Arent you like chap 30 ish

[forest blaze]

i still have one chapters to finish to get to 16-1

[torn steppe]

Oooo

[sweet crag]

Si40 lib when

[torn steppe]

@sweet crag Done

[sweet crag]

[torn steppe]

[brisk ferry]

how are the 9f+ nodes? I'm struggling to find who to put in furn wishlist, I should probably just put liberta and daemia in there regardless of whether the stats are good tbh but I just haven't trained my brain at doing that over the years

[sweet crag]

Proud

[torn steppe]

He has two haste rows

Middle and bottom

[sweet crag]

That's some haste

[torn steppe]

Yeah and he gets a good ammount for si

[sweet crag]

Seems like lib going in the wishlist again then

Well I just did si40 cause it's lib

[brisk ferry]

dayum!

[sweet crag]

so prob not a bad choice

[torn steppe]

85 haste without call

[main tree]

Im doing awakes before lib 40+

[torn steppe]

100

Kinda bonkers

[brisk ferry]

BTW I heard the 4f heroes are going to loose their newly acquired 40 SI?
are they going to straight up loose the abilities or is it gonna get earned sooner?

[torn steppe]

No

Si50

Max is 40

Only celepoges past 40

[sweet crag]

Oh yeah was this a rumor or is the abilities going down to 35?

[torn steppe]

Its unconfirmed this

[brisk ferry]

I haven't invested in 40 SI on DRez but I would be really sad if Drez lost that really good SI40 that no one will get

[torn steppe]

Why drez 🤨

[brisk ferry]

cuz he's adorable and he's my second favorite hero after THesku

[torn steppe]

30% attack boost to drez of all people is nothing lol

But if you like him and dc about meta go for it lol

Just saying that hes not the best

[brisk ferry]

30% attack boost when the shield is active (which is pretty often) is great for a SI40
there aren't many SI40 that are that good

[torn steppe]

But its drez

Hes kinda useless everywhere exept tower atm

[tardy root]

Lol

[torn steppe]

💀

[sweet crag]

[copper sail]

you can simp a hero all you want i got mishka 36f after all but don’t go telling new people that drez si40 is good or anything

[floral latch]

34

[tardy root]

He won

I hit refresh button

[sweet crag]

Man I hate that tower spam is ok now with boost to afk strat

[torn steppe]

Damn you a kraken 1000 tickets at chap 34 lol

[sweet crag]

Even more rampant

[floral latch]

I said that it's gonna be over 1000 by December

[torn steppe]

Damn kraken

[vague raptor]

[torn steppe]

[floral latch]

Um ok

[brisk ferry]

Maybe with 30% attack bonus on SI40 he'll be able back to relevance in CR

[torn steppe]

Not a chance lol

30% is nothing we have so many buffing heroes nowadays

Palmer rosa lavatune swolice etc

All have alot and i mean alot of damage boosts

[brisk ferry]

Is there any other reason that Crassio that keep DRez from being relevant in CR?

[main tree]

Cr is hard if you ain't a dolphin now

[torn steppe]

Rosa 60% + ult spam
Lavatune 45% + double ult damage
Swolice 40%
Palmer more cda crit and attack

[floral latch]

Nah fr over 1k in a year doesn't sound unlikely even as a f2p

[torn steppe]

Crassio is relevant in nightmare corridor

[torn steppe]

Its likely lol we just joking

Ya giga kraken

[sweet crag]

oh it's not

[copper sail]

crassio isn’t really in cr is he

[sweet crag]

ftp can get like 1.5k

[floral latch]

They giving out plenty left and right nowdays

[torn steppe]

Its around 3-4 aquirable awakened per year depending on luck

[floral latch]

Every time they drop an awakening they give 60+ just there

[brisk ferry]

i'm not talking about the meta teams, no one have the meta teams, I'm talking about the easy to acquire side meta for normal ppl

[torn steppe]

Drez ig can be used instead of aathalia in burning brute round

[sweet crag]

So Drez > Whalia

Got it

[torn steppe]

Worst but works

[floral latch]

I will tell you how good lucius gonna be depending on how many towers he'll allow me to get past to @torn steppe

[sweet crag]

shh

[torn steppe]

[floral latch]

[torn steppe]

Im alread done with towers lol

Exept kt

Im lazy there

Only floors 2004

[copper sail]

waw i didn’t know drez was objectively better than aathalia in every way in every gamemode good to know

[sweet crag]

[torn steppe]

[main tree]

Just do all mode relevant hero's

[torn steppe]

Kya best overall hero

Invest in him

[floral latch]

That's a safe investment

[copper sail]

a big drez would be great to have in hf actually at least

[brisk ferry]

what's HF already?

[floral latch]

Meta will change massively this year anyway, I'm pretty sure that by the end of the year those who were meta will hardly be used

[kind vessel]

When HF's been missing for a year it's not surprising people forgot what it is

[main tree]

True

[brisk ferry]

I hate teh current rate of powercreep I hop it was just a 2023 thing and it will calm down in 2024,

[main tree]

I want my HF

[floral latch]

The only hero I'm not expecting to drop off meta is liberta

[main tree]

I have a big lyca ready

[copper sail]

hunting field, 5 players team up and can only use heroes from the faction they picked at the start, and gameplay is kinda like AE

[main tree]

Except faster

[copper sail]

yeah of course since it’s smaller scale

[floral latch]

I feel like it will only get worse, I'm almost certain that heroes moving forward will have broken abilities on their +40

[brisk ferry]

daemia, Lavatune are safe too, and of course Rosaline will always be safe

[kind vessel]

Even quicker prince and dip

[copper sail]

alna my evergreen queen

[main tree]

Can't wait for furniture 108

[floral latch]

I'm actually expecting even lucius to have some broken si40 making it essential to get to +40

[torn steppe]

Rosa lib lava palmer jerome asaf

[torn steppe]

Seems no

[main tree]

That way we can say 50108E100(new resource) and confuse people a lot

[torn steppe]

108?

[floral latch]

You can only check up to +30 for now

[main tree]

Made up new furn max

[floral latch]

Tomorrow after the update you gonna see his +40

[torn steppe]

Ah i see

Hopefully it makes him viable

[main tree]

If sig getting up then furn is likely a next

[torn steppe]

Cz his current kit is so meh

[main tree]

Same with engraves

[brisk ferry]

yes Asaf, she's always struck me as a safer investment than Abel and Ashem

[torn steppe]

Si40 108 f e200 10*

[floral latch]

What about past ascended 5 star

[clever dagger]

lucius getting bagged on before he’s even had a chance

[torn steppe]

Ashem is very safe

[main tree]

30 stars

[torn steppe]

Shes unique

[floral latch]

Like rainbow 1 2 5 stars

[torn steppe]

I doubt theyd realesea any similar hero

[main tree]

Can't wait for galactic stars

[floral latch]

I know that in 2 weeks people gonna call him great

When it comes to first impression afk arena players are something else

[brisk ferry]

kinda like A-baden, that man just won't disappear

[torn steppe]

Baden might

If they realease a better dps

[main tree]

Can't wait for harry potter collaboration

[torn steppe]

Not gonna happen soon

[floral latch]

I wonder if regular baden is more relevant now, all considered if you combine his si40 with atheus it's a nasty combo

[torn steppe]

But can happen definitely

[torn steppe]

I think abaden is used every cr still

Old baden is used couple crs and all nc and ae

[main tree]

Nope he fell out of 1 round

[torn steppe]

So you could say hes more relevant

[floral latch]

Ye but regular baden gets atk increase on normals with his si40

[torn steppe]

In terms of number of use

[torn steppe]

Its bad i tested on a kraken account

Keep at si30

[tardy root]

So I need 1 person for dismal team T_T

Was gonna team with myself but I need 3 😭

[floral latch]

Sorry I'm a slave somewhere else

[torn steppe]

And i have 2 slaves

[floral latch]

Asked weeks ago for someone if they needed

[torn steppe]

[main tree]

Wait you have slaves?

Mfer krakens

[torn steppe]

Yes lab slaves

[wispy geyser]

my team shares the work

[tardy root]

I'm my own slave

[floral latch]

Must be nice

[sweet crag]

As a lab slave I take offense

[wispy geyser]

@jt_23 get ur lazy ass on and do lab

[torn steppe]

@wispy geyser same

[tardy root]

I also need a mentee

[wispy geyser]

wait they both do it? xD

what in the

[torn steppe]

Idk

I dont question it

[floral latch]

[torn steppe]

Damn kick the chap 40

[floral latch]

It's his alt

I can't kick

[torn steppe]

Rip

[floral latch]

[tardy root]

But yeah idc if they do nothing

[sweet crag]

Kick him

[tardy root]

I just need a 3rd

[sweet crag]

[torn steppe]

@floral latch Join @tardy root

[floral latch]

Then I'd be too weak to even do lab

[floral latch]

I can't

[torn steppe]

Next rotation

[floral latch]

Soulki is a nice frend

I'm not abandoning friends

[tardy root]

Abandon your friends

[torn steppe]

Friends do pay the bills|| doblab||

[main tree]

Hey look at my lab team

[torn steppe]

[sweet crag]

They did 1 so all good

[torn steppe]

Damn

[floral latch]

How tf he even has his name like that

[torn steppe]

Join @tardy root he needs someone

[sweet crag]

Idk

[floral latch]

It's the first time i see someone with a colored name

[main tree]

Im to f2p to have a sla- i mean team 😄

[torn steppe]

[sweet crag]

Lab skip halved my daily time needed

[floral latch]

Anyway time to go finish lab , i might be one of the few that actually likes doing it

[sweet crag]

You will hate it in time

[floral latch]

Nah I'm not that kind of person

[main tree]

Send an add @tardy root

[floral latch]

Once it becomes daily routine like it is now I'm not bothered

[torn steppe]

Bi daily

It takes 5 mins tbh

[copper sail]

whoa dismal has si40 enemies innit now too

[floral latch]

It takes me around 10 cuz i must do all 3 flors

[torn steppe]

You one shot em anyways

[floral latch]

Yup

[sweet crag]

was it not just normal hardmode

[tardy root]

Added

[torn steppe]

Oh how much till you can skipp

[sweet crag]

or did you just see

[torn steppe]

Wasnt it around 30 labs

[floral latch]

Like a year? I don't think that I'm gonna reach the chapter requirements before i use my resources in December

[main tree]

You M1?

[floral latch]

[tardy root]

Yea

And m2

[copper sail]

doin lab right now myself

[main tree]

Ight

[tardy root]

Lol damn

Not used to so many heroes

[sweet crag]

I see

well I zone out while doing lab so idk

[main tree]

Hope you enjoy my hero's lol

[tardy root]

XD yeah it helps

[floral latch]

At least i get to use heroes that i would never have otherwise

[sweet crag]

I see a gb enjoyer

[torn steppe]

Tbh lab is easy with all heroes
Cz you one shot enemies with
Alyca aathalia athane maetria

Most fights dont last couple seconds

[main tree]

I like to throw in walker

[torn steppe]

Walker buffs the team

Hes op

[tardy root]

Lol this will save me some tears

[kind vessel]

[tardy root]

I'd mess up before xD

Half asleep or whatever 🤣

[main tree]

[floral latch]

Yeah i needed a team cuz i died the first time i tried it

[tardy root]

And then everyone dead and I'm like oh

[floral latch]

And i said fuck that

[tardy root]

Lol

[main tree]

Welp you'll be unstoppable now

[woven loom]

And now I'm stuck ;=;

[floral latch]

Ofc you're

[woven loom]

Any recommendations?

[floral latch]

Do you have atheus?

[woven loom]

Only at elite