classic-chat

[light sierra]

any1 know if bounty board will get new missions if i did it before patch?

[verbal pawn]

Im sure they wouldn't screw over players just for being active

[short iris]

12 copies for celehypo to A right?

[safe panther]

14 copies.

It takes 2 copies for each ascension tier except for Mythic+ to Ascended which is 4.

I think they should remove the 500 diamonds cost for revert if the original hero is already 5 stars to use for fodder purposes.

[solemn marsh]

When is pstch going live?

[safe panther]

Should be tomorrow, early morning for me.

So around 7 hours, give or take.

[patent oriole]

Holy fuck is it me or is audrae the most useless celestial in the entire game

[safe panther]

Nah, she got powercrept hard.

She never was meta. Now she's pretty much a tower hero.

[patent oriole]

Even for tower u have liberta and daemia and aathalia..

[safe panther]

Yeah.

[patent oriole]

Oh my god I remember you now, you that gavus Eugene shipper hahah

[safe panther]

Oh yeah haha.

[patent oriole]

Just finished my Eugene’s si30 today

[safe panther]

I still wanna work on +30 Aw.Eugene next. And nice!

[patent oriole]

Idk who to work on next SI wise, will prob save my emblems for now

Y’all will hate me for it but I spent guild coins on buying dimensional gear ..

[safe panther]

They really should add dimensional gear to gear choice chest.

[patent oriole]

I swear to god.

[tepid epoch]

idk about you guys

but bluestacks wants me to update the software

and now im stuck with an extra block of ads on the left

[floral latch]

Ngl i never knew that was a thing

[safe panther]

You could use Google Play Games, honestly IMO a bit better than Bluestacks.

It doesn't shove ads down your throat.

[patent oriole]

Im being bombarded by pretty erotic lingerie ads in there and at some point it manages to make me h- myeee I just hide that shit behind another window

[oblique lodge]

Blue stacks? You can disable ads in the settings

[safe panther]

IMO the interface looks nicer, it properly has open/close and minimize animation.

[oblique lodge]

But I personally use mumu player. Feels lightweight

[wet hedge]

why not the browser app

[meager cloak]

I never got the beta activation email even tho it said "sent" 😢

[wet hedge]

[safe panther]

I just think Bluestacks isn't good anymore.

[wet hedge]

experience true light weight

[meager cloak]

BlueStacks is BS now

[wet hedge]

[safe panther]

I think you could search "Google Play Games Beta"

[meager cloak]

[patent oriole]

Is that the new version of it tho

[short iris]

Thanks

[safe panther]

A visualization of how many copies in total:
Epic: 1 copy
Epic+: 2 copies (+1 copy)
Legendary: 4 copies (+2 copies)
Legendary+: 6 copies (+2 copies)
Mythic: 8 copies (+2 copies)
Mythic+: 10 copies (+2 copies)
Ascended: 14 copies (+4 copies)

Each star requires 1 Epic+ copy.

[patent oriole]

Is veithael a good high deficit frontline hero for campaign? I have plenty of dps and supports but too few Frontline tanks 😭😭

[orchid stream]

how do you clear the trial of wood

I'm stuck on it

[safe panther]

The south side? Pay attention to description.

There must be seven in total but at least one of each type.

[orchid stream]

k

[summer sluice]

[patent oriole]

Follow a guide or that event will take you hours lol

[summer sluice]

Bluestacks never worked well on my PC

Never could figure out why

[safe panther]

Odd. Try ditching Bluestacks. It never worked for me.

[summer sluice]

Always was real slow

[safe panther]

Now to wait for response.

[patent oriole]

I bet my uhhh censored that you’ll get a generic answer from a bot

[summer sluice]

“We will pass your message on to the support team”

[safe panther]

When Lilith releases a new power creep, they usually spoil players with big loads of materials and then they have to suffer the long grind.

[wind heart]

Im sorry the message ypu recieved is unsuccessful please try again later

[summer sluice]

I do hope they add some form of f2p assistance for these new SI because even for spenders its honestly ridiculous in cost

This is creating an absolutely massive gap

[safe panther]

I even made a Reddit post suggesting to add resonance up to +30.

+30 resonance means you spend less time worrying about building new heroes.

[merry coral]

there's no way to balance resonance for SIs

8 beasts of 16 (that takes a bit over a year to get res18) vs 150+ SIs, there's no way to compensate if the number required was to low, and would barely make a difference if its to high.

[safe panther]

Get 10 heroes in a faction to +30, you unlock resonance for that faction.

Awakened heroes are included for that faction resonance.

[tranquil atlas]

Rip celehypo

[merry coral]

so 70 +30 for every faction, and ppl that built 150 +30 get the 24000 chests back? or ur in bad luck?

[safe panther]

Also for resonance, excess +30s would be refunded.

[tranquil atlas]

Cant wait for my refund on that

[safe panther]

That way, you can use the emblems to focus on your favourite heroes.

[merry coral]

yeah

makes no sense

[tranquil atlas]

Make total sense

[safe panther]

Newer players would be encouraged to work on 4-faction resonance.

Since standard 4F heroes are the easiest to ascend.

When they do, they can focus on dimensional resonance.

[tranquil atlas]

Uh huh

[merry coral]

in the player perspective yeah, i want free stuff too

[tranquil atlas]

Hes talking about player perspective

[safe panther]

As for whales who get refunded the emblems? They can rest assured they don't have to spend as much.

[tranquil atlas]

Hes not thinking how its profitable bc he is just like that

[merry coral]

i want all +40 for free too

[tranquil atlas]

And its free now for whale

[safe panther]

I doubt +40 resonance would happen realistically.

[tranquil atlas]

And thats not generating any money

Thats why 50 exist

So that every aspect of the game is generating revenue again

[merry coral]

i just don't see a point in suggesting things that make no sense in lilith's perspective

[tranquil atlas]

Humor them

Like a class clown

[safe panther]

It's like Engraveyard all over again.

[merry coral]

the only way to fix is just increase the chest income, so it feels free to +30

[safe panther]

Oh yeah.

[tranquil atlas]

Yeah but the increase chest income also doesn’t justify how to get more money

[safe panther]

And they could add emblems to barracks.

[tranquil atlas]

you are still thinking player perspective

Which make you the same as kitteh

One D playa

[merry coral]

nah, resonance is a lot different than a better chest income, that +30 feels cheap compared to now

[tranquil atlas]

Any increase mean a decrease in money production. Hence why they haven’t implemented a real smart collection change and added flask into afk reward. Because one d player like yourself are thinking what benefit you , 2d player are what devs try to implement for a healthy game but 3d player are the higher up lining their pockets

So u say to combat this is to add more but add more mean less money from the ppl who will max this eventually to@line up their pocket

Even if its a year from now $30 from a pass is better than $0

Hindsight is 2d player very easily can see what can be implement to have a healthy game design but they arent being employ to do that

[merry coral]

wdym 2d/3d in this case? english not 1st lang

[tranquil atlas]

Think of it as perspective

[merry coral]

oh ic, i was thinking it meant sth else

[tranquil atlas]

You as a player is 1 dimension perspective , you & dev is 2 dimensional , you dev and the higher up at LTH is 3rd dimension perspective

I don’t blame LTH for its implementation but i do blame they are leaning away from dev philosophy they wrote down from dons speech

[safe panther]

Need 12 more copies overall if I wanna get resonance to level 12.

[cunning wigeon]

@wraith sentinel you not coming with us ?

[wraith sentinel]

oh, i just logged on and saw what happened :lmao

[cunning wigeon]

you coming then sir ?

[wraith sentinel]

sure, but 1 hr cd

[tranquil atlas]

Betrayal

[wraith sentinel]

[tranquil atlas]

Thought you were foxhound for life toad

Rlly didn’t think u do this to a dude

[safe panther]

Hopefully the next Legendary Epic won't have enemies over level 999.

[cunning wigeon]

alrighty ill drop them a msg in their discord

[safe panther]

Cause that one is literally VoW but with campaign deficit.

325 level deficit is no fun.

[normal turtle]

I didnt notice there were 999 enemies

[cunning wigeon]

i murdered foxhound in 1 day senpai

[quick lagoon]

chat

[tranquil atlas]

U joining the other guild

[wraith sentinel]

im joining kbrs, see ya losers later

[cunning wigeon]

[quick lagoon]

dawg/

[wraith sentinel]

[cunning wigeon]

toad join then i can supp you

[wraith sentinel]

wait whos this guy

[cunning wigeon]

spooderman

[tranquil atlas]

It took me some thinking to realize with how much I invested into my account, I must be in a top 5 guild. Speaking with my friends from FoxHound, they reminded me that my V15 account isn't really meant for non T5 guilds (in fact, up to S6, not being t5 was a foreign concept to me!)

I will be taking my talents to KBRS

peace out nerds

[wraith sentinel]

bro

who was that

[tranquil atlas]

Idr bro

[cunning wigeon]

toad i sent JFF cord inv ingame

senpai, my collections runs are so poopy i just end up with dias

every week

sadge

[tranquil atlas]

Dw same

Cant roll nat 7 like toad

[normal turtle]

I roll nat 8

[cunning wigeon]

i rolled and the dice broke

[normal turtle]

Just not recently

[wraith sentinel]

bro, i didnt even use it at all

abaden better not get phased out entirely

[tranquil atlas]

me rolling for 3 bc im bound to get 3 even if i dont roll for any

[edgy solar]

Anyone having problems with login?

[cunning wigeon]

i got problems with my noggin

[oblique lodge]

[wanton niche]

Don't worry I still use him in CR

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/582872400786358282/1044825507050565632/IMG_1047.gif

[lofty dome]

I have roughly 5 mins to quickly do guild hunt and then redeem bootcamp reward…

[wanton niche]

Or hope for soren sooner

[lofty dome]

Yea pretty much

It’s over for me

What’s 20 hours from now

[wanton niche]

four hours ago tomorrow

[lofty dome]

Gotcha

Should I set a timer

That’s roughly around the time I get out of gym

[oblique lodge]

Just skip leg day. This is more important

[patent oriole]

Do your dimensional heroes have dimensional gear or just random shit with gear resonance ?

I see like max one dim gear per week in guild shop

[viscid vale]

Dimensional gear of course

What else are you supposed to put

[patent oriole]

Takes such a long time to gear up your dims from guild store tho zzzzzzzzz

Rng on top of rng on top of rng is so fucking cancer

[tardy root]

Why you want dim gear so bad?

it's not like you have enough stones to upgrade it all yet

chill, lol

[patent oriole]

I can upgrade them to tier 3, it’s still better than tier1

Yes I get more tier 3 stones than tier 2 so my resonance is still at 1

[patent oriole]

Because every other hero I have has full faction gear and having 3-4 dim heroes with random gear gives me the feeling of them being incomplete

[tardy root]

ah

[patent oriole]

Power boost from tier upgrades is like triple and sometimes quadruple so it’s massive

[verbal pawn]

Well Mauler Tower, its been real, goodbye forever

[languid cedar]

nah, the te are too worth it

[verbal pawn]

Im sure they are but like....Im not prepared for this. The good factions were hard enough lol

[languid cedar]

nah, it's easy!

[past pulsar]

More mod apprentices

[wet hedge]

mauler tower without asaf sucks

having a big crassio helps a lot though, which I don't have

[languid cedar]

so much pink

[verbal pawn]

I am very doubt

[languid cedar]

just try 451

[verbal pawn]

I have 208 crassio

[wet hedge]

209e30 crassio should be good to go for a long time

[verbal pawn]

whats 451 mean?

[wet hedge]

+45 sig

[languid cedar]

err, 661

[verbal pawn]

oh

[wet hedge]

are you getting +40s hythlo?

[languid cedar]

no

[verbal pawn]

I do think Ill get a couple floors before the real wall

[languid cedar]

well, maybe. Probably the +35s will go to +40s

thats 15 maybe

[lunar parrot]

I don’t understand how are you supposed to eat this when like there are only 5 good maulers

*beat

[lofty dome]

Everyday is leg day

I love cardio

[verbal pawn]

ABrutus, Naroko/Anasta and Kren seem to be the best 3 mauler carries. Seal honourary faction tower carry as always too

[desert kite]

leg day sucks

who hits legs?

lmao

[oblique lodge]

I got them chicken legs

[kind vessel]

3 fight Mauler tower is usually smth like Ant+Naro+Ana, AwBrutus Seal, AwSaf Kren

[verbal pawn]

The best ones I have I should say. No ASaf

[pliant summit]

Is a lot easier than it looks really lol u only need the 3 nukes 1 in each fight rest just act like support

[verbal pawn]

GB is by far my deepest roster and its only like floor 700 so I suspect mauler is gonna wait a lot

[kind vessel]

GB is a lot less annoying now that Izold is barely used anymore

And because AwShem is nuts

[viscid vale]

Thoran!

[verbal pawn]

Yeah AShem ABaden then my choice of Grez, Oden, ThoranSeal etc etc

[quick lagoon]

Chat

[glad sand]

Does Mulan have an instant kill ability or something?

The 5 dim team is more aids than usual

Ehh what do I care, this next update will probably kill the game anyway

[floral latch]

Honestly fuck whoever created this gamemode

[patent oriole]

yup XD it's not even full with braindead easy levels, some are tough as hell, i gave up

if i wanted to play candy crush id play candy crush

[lament bluff]

My Gb tower teams are Oden Ivan, Seal with Random bullshit that don't die in 1 sec, Ashem and friends

[scarlet locust]

[scarlet locust]

[ruby crater]

[lunar parrot]

meanwhile my naroko and anasta team dies in 2 hits

LMAOOO

[wraith sentinel]

[scarlet locust]

[quick lagoon]

Can someone explain this

Also no. find a diff Lightbearer fodder E+ to fuse with her cus u need Mirael E+ to get Mirael L+
if u do that u will be stuck with only L Mirael

[hollow nova]

helo

[wispy geyser]

this is more or less ur case @quick lagoon

[vestal sparrow]

I can't focus

[wispy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/lordstayfocus-gif-25703388

[patent oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-oh-shit-a-am-sorry-gachimuchi-gif-13510847

[scarlet locust]

yo!

[hollow nova]

Cg for the first place

[cunning wigeon]

quik ! e60 mulan cruke or save for eugene ?!

[serene atlas]

i have mulan e30

[cunning wigeon]

mumu e33

[ruby crater]

idek who are they

[vestal sparrow]

what do i do with my life now

[cunning wigeon]

[serene atlas]

[patent oriole]

man im gonna create an alt acc just for the solemn vow rewards cuz my 2nd apprentice dipped too WTFFF he promised he'd play daily but havent seen him around for 5d now

[quick lagoon]

What is this

[wispy geyser]

ascending heroes

if u bring her to L now you'll be locked into the bottom option, but if u wait you'll be on the top option

[cunning wigeon]

bel overrated

[serene atlas]

lava op

[wanton niche]

Op op

[cunning wigeon]

insta +50

300 chests to go

[quick lagoon]

I don't understand how

So what

do I make more elite fodder

Also no. find a diff Lightbearer fodder E+ to fuse with her cus u need Mirael E+ to get Mirael L+
if u do that u will be stuck with only L Mirael

[cunning wigeon]

[quick lagoon]

so I make

[wispy geyser]

yes

[quick lagoon]

I just copied that

If I use hogan e+ to fuse what will happen

how to get merial e

[wet hedge]

[cunning wigeon]

jd why you pink ?

[wet hedge]

I became an apprentice mod this morning

[cunning wigeon]

rngesus bless the non-crammunists

[wet hedge]

yeah it's over for them

[cunning wigeon]

lucky im half crammunist

[wet hedge]

[verbal pawn]

JD gonna crack down on the bad chatters. Unfortunately that will mean no one will be left

[wet hedge]

chat has been surprisingly civil today

[wispy geyser]

what chat

[wispy geyser]

[wet hedge]

[ruby crater]

it's over for this server

[wet hedge]

no, the crammunists will be fine

[ruby crater]

self destruction takes place in 1 day

[wet hedge]

[ruby crater]

bye guys

[wet hedge]

[cunning wigeon]

took me 1 day to murder my ex guild

[quick lagoon]

server maintenence

[cunning wigeon]

man ten ants

[quick lagoon]

Merial e+ 2 other e+ = legendary merial +

@wispy geyser

[wispy geyser]

what are u on about

[cunning wigeon]

crack

[wispy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/telmo-coca-harina-raquetaso-esnifar-gif-25660568

this is okay rn ^

[quick lagoon]

I'm right

So 1 merial e+ and 2 other light bearer elite+

and if I ascend them I get legendary+ merisl

[wispy geyser]

just need 4 E+ fodder with 2 of them the same hero

[cunning wigeon]

you get legendary

[quick lagoon]

but I need legendary + right

[wispy geyser]

sir how did ur spelling get worse

[cunning wigeon]

idk

must be the crack

[quick lagoon]

And I get L+

[cunning wigeon]

nem gonna give you E+ for spelling

[quick lagoon]

shlawg

[wispy geyser]

wtf is a shlawg

[ruby crater]

[quick lagoon]

I've played for 3 or 4 days guess what chapter I'm on

[wispy geyser]

[wispy geyser]

D

[quick lagoon]

?

guess

[ruby crater]

xd

[wispy geyser]

I am guessing

oh u mean a number?

[quick lagoon]

What chapter

[wispy geyser]

Oneteen

[quick lagoon]

Yes

🐱

WRONG

[cunning wigeon]

is that ten one ?

or ten ten one

[quick lagoon]

4 elite+ fodder = L+

[wispy geyser]

when ascended correctly

[quick lagoon]

I MIGHT mess up

[lament bluff]

Is new Cele Liberta/ Daemia tier?

[kind vessel]

Doubt it but she doesn't seem bad either

My gut is saying below Lib/Dae/Lava but above Vei/Luci

Roughly

[wet hedge]

She sounds like lucilla tier to me

Good to have if you can afford, not the end of the world if you can't

[clever dagger]

oh wow game back up

[unborn zephyr]

Count your days

[modest latch]

Wait fr? It says 1 hour and 10mins for me

[unborn zephyr]

💀

[clever dagger]

wow really, strange

[unborn zephyr]

Oo I’m in

[modest latch]

Yeah...😔

[kind vessel]

Yeah something like that

[pliant summit]

😑

[wet hedge]

I got trolled too

[unborn zephyr]

Im playing rn

[pliant summit]

I'll eat ur heart stop it

[unborn zephyr]

Sorry

Belinda best splash screen, nothing comes close

[pliant summit]

Nah Alna is still the best

[clever dagger]

[clever dagger]

thane best and it’s not close

[rancid garnet]

hi retr0

[unborn zephyr]

Thane is my nemesis

[clever dagger]

hating on an amputee smh

[unborn zephyr]

He always showed up with the best cards in unlimited summons to the point I despise him

[pliant summit]

Been a while

[vestal sparrow]

Lets goo. Time to si 40 my rosaline

[unborn zephyr]

how does one get a colored name, I feel left out

[hollow nova]

ou

[pliant summit]

LoL #levelup-channel

[rancid garnet]

well, am always a ping away, presuming IRL not throwing me BS

though preferably idw to get pinged w/o reason

[unborn zephyr]

What color is the lowest level

[rancid garnet]

but man, devs drunk for new SI lvls

[unborn zephyr]

Besides default obviously

[rancid garnet]

cant even make keksos better

[lament turtle]

Wow

[clever dagger]

🟩

[lament turtle]

Server maintenance man

Haha

[unborn zephyr]

What level

[clever dagger]

21

[lament turtle]

Can’t play atm

[pliant summit]

I feel u wouldn't really care about that but wutus and Asaf are definitely getting si40 yeh ... hehe

[unborn zephyr]

Idk what ur talking about, I’m playing right now

[lament turtle]

Uhh

[rancid garnet]

like, i still wanna max them all out, and this is seriously hurting my stash 🫠

[lament turtle]

@unborn zephyr this is atm

[unborn zephyr]

(Im not playing)

[lament turtle]

U didn’t know there’s a maintenance?

[hollow nova]

everyone got trolled

[lament turtle]

Wahh lol

[unborn zephyr]

too many people fell for it

[lament turtle]

So what are we getting this new maintenance?

New mode or something?

[tardy root]

new hero

[hollow nova]

new si level

[lament turtle]

[clever dagger]

death of the game

[unborn zephyr]

A second maintenance

[pliant summit]

I saw this one reddit comment that made a lot of sense that some heros will be good at si30 and u wouldn't really want to get them higher than they are already..and the si 40 thing will only affect pvp

[tardy root]

an update

to the game

[unborn zephyr]

Maybe

[lament turtle]

I heard about the new hero

She celestial right?

[hollow nova]

yes

[unborn zephyr]

Yea

[rancid garnet]

b-but my rep as a mooler account :deadge;

[lament turtle]

Oh well New addition to heroes roster

Not that she good or great like Alberta right?

[unborn zephyr]

MAINTENANCE DONE

[lament turtle]

Stop trolling man

[lament turtle]

Maint not over

[unborn zephyr]

IM NOT

[lament turtle]

Wth

[unborn zephyr]

I’m actually inside the game rn

[lament turtle]

Great

[unborn zephyr]

[clever dagger]

pog

[lament turtle]

Yup

[tardy root]

1 HEROES

[hollow nova]

Rip

[lament turtle]

Oof for you

Anyway since there’s no new event coming in a couple days so chill

Also I have a question

I read that mythic gear drops after chapter 16 right?

So now I’m at chapter 24 and yet I don’t see mythic gear whenever I afk for over 12 hours

[lofty dome]

Oh wow they look sick

[lament turtle]

What gives with the drop rate?

[lament turtle]

He’s dope

[lofty dome]

That’s my first hypogean I think

[lament turtle]

Where u get him?

[lofty dome]

10x from the tavern

[lament turtle]

Ohh

Nice

[rare pine]

Any changes to the amount of emblems needed to use for si40?

[lofty dome]

When is a good time to start clearing peaks of time?

Currently stuck on secrets of the forest because I don’t have 4 progressed wilder heros to use

[south marsh]

Yeah.. this was everything about this update.. Nice..

[unborn zephyr]

Keep resetting secrets of the forest until there’s 2 wilder hero’s in both hero garrisons

[unborn zephyr]

Belinda my beloved

[lofty dome]

Thank you

[south marsh]

SI +40 Belinda going crazy

[lofty dome]

Someday I’ll be chapter 50

The farthest I’ve gotten was chapter 29 before quitting

[kind vessel]

Big burns

[prime isle]

is malkrie a bigger priority than olgath?

[tardy root]

Asap or whenever you get stuck in campaign

Just get a merc

[lofty dome]

Yea trying to apply for one but getting rejected

[tardy root]

get a mentor

#apprentice-mentor

[lofty dome]

Perfect thanks

[tranquil atlas]

I’ll be your master

[lofty dome]

Really?

[tranquil atlas]

Yeah

As long as you complete the quest

And dont quit

[wet hedge]

really got the luck of the draw there lol

flaw as your mentor

[tardy root]

nah he said master, not mentor

[unborn zephyr]

Such a big commitment, some take so god damn long

[lofty dome]

What are the quests again?

[tardy root]

basically play the game

[lofty dome]

Oh easy

[tardy root]

for 10 weeks

[unborn zephyr]

💀

[lofty dome]

I check afk arena as often as I can

[tranquil atlas]

Aight i’m fine with that

[lofty dome]

Unless I’m dead there shouldn’t be any issues

[unborn zephyr]

Just 30 arcane labyrinths, enjoy

One of”

[tranquil atlas]

Whats your id - i’ll send you the request

[unborn zephyr]

I hate that one

[lofty dome]

158082509

[tranquil atlas]

Nice frenien pfp

[lofty dome]

Tyty

[prime isle]

which 40 SI is broken?

[unborn zephyr]

Squish it

[runic depot]

imo joan of darc, 32dr to all allies :V, also rowan seems sick, albedo, maybe liberta

[lofty dome]

Could you recommend a team formation for me when you have the chance? @tranquil atlas

[vestal sparrow]

Si 40 is mainly a large stat boost instead of abilities from first impressions.

So awakened heroes are what seems to be the best so far

[tranquil atlas]

There you go - follow the guide in #question for starter

[vestal sparrow]

Meta heroes* I should say

[tranquil atlas]

Hopefully you push further this time around

[prime isle]

well i got two options, either i do malkrie or trishea to +30/40 or i do one of wokes to +40

[lunar parrot]

oh what

[oblique lodge]

I'm already struggling to even si30 all my carries. I don't need to worry about si40 and 50

[vestal sparrow]

true

[lunar parrot]

bruh

[prime isle]

180 pulls 5 copies so far

[sleek knoll]

Is she strong ?

[lament bluff]

All allies or one? Need Krakens to test it

[prime isle]

Hello

[hollow nova]

yo

[lunar parrot]

yeah LMFAO

[prime isle]

I’m a bot I need to know what characters are goo I’m chapter 11

I just started

[hollow nova]

check pins in question

[prime isle]

Ok

[lunar parrot]

if it’s all allies he’s probably gonna be SSS tier

[lament bluff]

Libert,Eugene. Ashem and Abel probably just for stats maybe

[lunar parrot]

the 15% damage boost for liberta is good?

[lament bluff]

I am not sure how good is the boost but the ME and haste from 40 just make it worth for a top 5 dps

[prime isle]

so trishea 30 is worse than a +40 awaken?

[modest latch]

Can someone help me with that garden?

[west maple]

Hi, @modest latch!

If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help

[south marsh]

@wet hedge Will you go on Shemira or Liberta as the 2nd +40 after Belinda?

[modest latch]

Im confused af

[lament bluff]

This is confusing. The initial skill says the 25 magic resist reduction cannot be stacked but the +40 unlocked skill says it can be stacked upto 10 times

Is it unstackable 25+ stackable 50 at max=75 Magic resist reduction?

[tardy root]

? those are two diff effects

one says the cores reduce mr for surounding enemies by 25 while they're alive

[wet hedge]

I don't think we should +40 either of those heroes

[tardy root]

the other says they lower mr by 5 after they explode

not sure whats confusing there

its two diff effects

[wet hedge]

I don't think reinforcing current meta carries is the move for non-whale players

[south marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hoarder-oldlady-gif-19440235

JD, with 5000 chests of each, ready for awake meta in 2026

[wet hedge]

I'm more interested to see how niche heroes with crazy +40s change the meta

[lament bluff]

So it's total 75 at max stacks?

[wet hedge]

so I'm gonna sit and wait

I'm currently eyeing like 2-3 +40s

[tardy root]

idk, read what it says

playing league rn

[lament bluff]

Then Eugene 40 is nuts

[wet hedge]

Eugene is one of the +40s I'm eyeing

idk how insane that's gonna be in practice

but it does sound ike a flat 200% damage buff for int heroes on int enemies

[clever portal]

I received 10 red chests as compensation wtf its too 🤏

I don't understand how that worked

[prime isle]

so which +40 is prio?

[lament bluff]

Campaign rewards?

Abel and Eugene can't go wrong in my opinion

[prime isle]

better do abel +40 or finish up trishea 30960? 😄

[south marsh]

Nobody cares about Eugene at the moment.

We'll have to get to engraving and furniture to see if it will manifest itself in meta

[hollow nova]

i do abel first

[lament bluff]

Lava also kinda nice

[prime isle]

is she higher prio than ashem?

[hollow nova]

i dont have ashem so idk

[lament bluff]

Eugene will be meta 100%

[prime isle]

we still need 4 copies to ascend him thats gonna be about two months probably

[hollow nova]

ask tzuyu

[prime isle]

btw anyone knows what athane epic journey gives? i dont have him unlocked but i might use TE for a copy

[lament bluff]

Then wait for 2 months then judge

Best way

[south marsh]

Abelinda -> AShemira & Liberta -> AAthalia (I personally wouldn't invest in her at the moment as she's probably the earliest to exit the meta)

These are the safest bets for now, or preferably wait to see how things move in the coming weeks/months, and then you can make a decision

[prime isle]

aint got the patience haha, how many of those epic emblems for a +40 from +30?

420?

[lament bluff]

Possible we aren't getting enough emblems for one +40 in 2 months

[south marsh]

You want in theory up to +35 with red chests, and from 35 up with epic

[prime isle]

how many from 35 to +40 then?

how about rem +40?

[hollow nova]

do it

[prime isle]

no

[hollow nova]

albedo +50

[lament bluff]

Rem SI40 seems mid

[empty citrus]

[wintry basalt]

Great update for whales

[copper sail]

think ima save like 5 +40s and if in the meantime some become clearly obvious to need i’ll do it

[solar peak]

A very new player here. Started like 2 days ago. I have a chest for someone named Eugene. If I understood everything correctly, I should get a Gavus in the unlimited summons, plus some purple guys, but I m not sure what purple guys would be the best (i mention I m still far away from 16-1, I just got to 5)

[copper sail]

pins in #classic-questions

[solar peak]

Got it, ty 🫡🫡

[tranquil atlas]

That sounds counter intuitive

[white bronze]

giv me your credit card

[runic parrot]

47 level gap, PvP is fun

[wet hedge]

what are the stat break points

I suspect something like +36 might be benchmark for heroes like abelinda and bert

little bit of whites, mostly reds

[tranquil atlas]

Accept the ring

[white bronze]

[sleek knoll]

Some Whale will have this 😉

Wow whale form china 🙂

[tranquil atlas]

I must go

Otherwise Ana will take my organ to sell

@white bronze

[white bronze]

i’m not like that

[tranquil atlas]

Yes you are

sold my heart after i gave it to you

Heartless now

[white bronze]

[sleek knoll]

What hero will up sign 40 ?

[elder bobcat]

i got gavus and belinda, is it good?

[tranquil atlas]

Ukyo

[lament bluff]

Tasi

[tranquil atlas]

Thank me later

[potent turtle]

blehhh

[lament bluff]

SI 50 but no engravings?

[tranquil atlas]

4036e0

[lament bluff]

Oh it's 40

[tranquil atlas]

My friend going to 48 si tho

[normal turtle]

...........

[lament bluff]

Is this another Liberta/Lava tier hero?

[flat venture]

Now we just need special star for e100

[tranquil atlas]

No

I don’t think so

[normal turtle]

Nope, might be on par with

[torn steppe]

Belinda liberta prollt the prio

[prime isle]

Hmph.

Watch this crazy ass son of a wallet wasting bitch Julius +50 SI everyone in the next few days.

[tranquil atlas]

bro got that dat stimmi return

[lunar parrot]

how good is team 8?

and how does he not have A eugene yet doesn’t he need furniture

[prime isle]

Don't know .

[lunar parrot]

LOL

😭 ig well never know

[prime isle]

No one can possibly have Eugene Ascended at this time.

[lunar parrot]

oh whatt

[prime isle]

Free time gated copies basically. That is why he is only Mythic for now.

[lunar parrot]

oh I thought I saw someone with an A eugene

hmm

then why are people saying to get his 9f asap? Is he broken with it?

[prime isle]

Yeah that was prolly the a merc version in lab or temporal rift or something.

[lunar parrot]

ahh yeah that makes sense

[lunar parrot]

wondering how they’ll test this LMFAOO

[prime isle]

Who knows. He prolly will be broken with 9F and plus we have plenty of time to get all 9 furnitures for him before he gets ascended.

[prime isle]

Uh, just the usual testing. Test it everywhere in random teams in different modes and see how well it does and boom, done. That is done with pretty much a lot of heroes.

[lunar parrot]

makes sense. I wonder if he’ll need gavus

[lunar parrot]

ohh okay

I see!!

[prime isle]

Gavus could prolly shine a little bit more with a built Eugene but who knows.

[tranquil atlas]

Bc its not physically possible to obtain?

[lunar parrot]

yeah LOL

[sleek knoll]

Thank bro

[torn steppe]

Hes not summonabl3

So people only got the 2 copies from guild shop

2 from the events

1 from the 50 gavus cards

1 from vow

1 from mail

And 1 more i forgot the exact location

Only 8 copies were obtainable

[keen rock]

I feel like they are just trying to run afk arena into the ground with this changes so they can push afk journey tbh

[torn steppe]

Its been that way since afk journey beta

[solid junco]

code

[prime isle]

and now another Eugene copy from Temporal Rift. Damn.

[torn steppe]

Ah ye

[torn steppe]

And mythic +

Only 3 to go

[prime isle]

Yep.

Watch them still make Eugune not be summonable after Ascended in the Stargazing Room.

[solid junco]

100% tbh

[hollow nova]

sensei

[languid spindle]

What’s the consensus of Maetria’s Si40?

[rancid garnet]

hi misty 👋

[rare pine]

Are you guys going liberta or aBelinda as a first si40

[unborn zephyr]

Neither (I can’t afford it)

I don’t even have Belinda

[rare pine]

Yeah, I mean after 400 days of having it in bounties I mean 🙃

[granite cedar]

I thought if we went past ch37 we were supposed to get auto new emblem rewards?

Like they said if you have chapters after 37 done you will get automatic white emblems

Showering brb

[kind vessel]

I got 320 epics from ch37-53 rewards

[lament bluff]

That's so low

Anyone knows what the new misty rewards are?

[granite cedar]

That was the number???

[ember thunder]

I'm going to be broke very soon

[ember thunder]

How many emblems does it take to +50 someone?

😔

[granite cedar]

20 emblems per chapter ????

So beating all of campaign you can basically +40 not even +50 somebody?

[vague raptor]

They want you to spend, of course they won't give you all the emblems

[floral latch]

Yeah, such a shocker that they ain't giving 1000 chests x chapter

[vague raptor]

[granite cedar]

You would think beating all of one content would let you max 1 hero

But nice slippery slope

[lament bluff]

It just sucks that I have to choose between Eugene,Baits and this new emblems from events

[last valve]

But not in AFK xd

[floral latch]

You ain't beating all content regardless if you ain't a whale

[lament bluff]

Campaign is possible regardless of being whale or not

[vague raptor]

I mean, the 320 from campaign plus de 500 on 7 days is one si40

[granite cedar]

I get that. I’m strictly talking about rewards from campaign being abysmal

[vague raptor]

Of course you need to be chapter 53 for that

[granite cedar]

Im ch 62 but thanks

[vague raptor]

[lament bluff]

Yes the rewards are trash. And they added new power creep before adding arcane staffs as rewards

Pretty wild

[granite cedar]

Did they pin the graphic with the number of emblems for each level somewhere in this discord?

[floral latch]

No it isn't

You get pcap without being a whale

[sudden marsh]

does ashem need +1 Skill level in collections?

[floral latch]

Not really

[sudden marsh]

ok👍

[lament bluff]

There are f2ps in endgame chapters

[safe panther]

I already hate the long grind.

[lament bluff]

Are you going to+50 him?

[vague raptor]

Him and alaro

[safe panther]

I want to do that, yeah.

Anything for my lizard husbands.

[granite cedar]

What comp do you use him in?

[somber spoke]

who yall doing ro si40 first?

[floral latch]

Not at the very end

[safe panther]

The World Tree, AE, Nightmare Corridor.

[floral latch]

They're blocked by pcap

[vague raptor]

Waiting for a guide before doing any mistake

[safe panther]

There's one in chapter 60.

[floral latch]

And he gonna be there for another year

Then newer chapters will have pcap again

[vague raptor]

I think Athene is chap 63?

[tardy root]

Tempted to si40 emilia as my first for the lulz

[lament bluff]

I just find it pointless to push campaign that far. If rewards were good,more people will push

[floral latch]

Or maybe people just push cuz they like it

They will eventually improve rewards every now and then

[lament bluff]

I used to like campaign too

[vague raptor]

Or when they will add new chapter rewards in MV

[floral latch]

Add new things just like now and so on

[lament bluff]

Then it got boring

[floral latch]

Better push little by little overtime than doing a few days in a row

[floral latch]

They did for this update tho

[vague raptor]

Up till chapter what?

[floral latch]

It went from 41 to 44 or whatever

[vague raptor]

46?

Oh

Easy than

[safe panther]

Hopefully MV rewards will be good.

[floral latch]

It's the same as usual

[vague raptor]

Time to get all the white emblems

[floral latch]

I'm still going for the things i went after before the update

[granite cedar]

Liberta Daemia Lavatune and still debating on the awakened to choose

[floral latch]

Adding new chests ain't gonna change my point of view on things

[lament bluff]

Campaign is piss ez atm. Just pushed a chapter in 1 hr yesterday

[sudden marsh]

i feel like whale pockets wont like this one

[vague raptor]

You're the one that hoard for a year right?

[sudden marsh]

having to buy into another power creep

[granite cedar]

Lol okay

[floral latch]

Ofc sir

[vague raptor]

How is it going? It been like 2 months since you started

[floral latch]

Same as 2 months ago

[vague raptor]

[lament bluff]

I can push another 2 if I want

[floral latch]

It hasn't been 2 months yet tho

Started on December 17

[vague raptor]

Fine, one month and half

[granite cedar]

I can make a new account and push 30 if I want

[floral latch]

I will show you some progress during the anni

[vague raptor]

[lament bluff]

Chapter 30 is like early game

[floral latch]

Chapter 30 so hard

Damn damn

[vague raptor]

Chapter 30 isn't even two teams

[granite cedar]

My point exactly

[floral latch]

I put autoclicker on yesterday and i went from chapter 19 to 27 in 1 hour on test

[lament bluff]

It's a different story with 5 teams

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

The moment you have si30 for ivan is game over for chapters

[vague raptor]

You want more than just si30 Ivan

[floral latch]

No

[vague raptor]

[sudden marsh]

cant wait for the ultimate gacha game

[floral latch]

Can't wait for people to complain that they ain't making 20 si40 the first week

[safe panther]

Waiting for the non-awakened Maetria.

[lament bluff]

People are complaining about the cost

[tepid epoch]

For reference

I don’t even have enough to get someone to SI 40 automatically

[granite cedar]

Thanks iwas asking for this a few minutes ago

[floral latch]

So sad

[granite cedar]

They should pin that graphic somewhere

[vague raptor]

820 is too much

[floral latch]

True, it should be 82

[vague raptor]

Oh wait that's with red emblems

650 with epic

[lament bluff]

Why did they make the cost for each level different?

[floral latch]

Because that's how it's supposed to be

[lament bluff]

Looks like randomly generated

[vague raptor]

Well epic will most likely be longer to get

[floral latch]

The more you upgrade the more it costs

[lament bluff]

Nah

I am talking about the red to epic ratio

[vestal sparrow]

That's not the issue. The issue is the cost increase for each of them isnt linear

[lament bluff]

They are not the same cost

[floral latch]

Because the red chests are more common as of now

So it's only natural that they cost a bit more

[granite cedar]

Or they could incentivize certain game modes by improving rewards

So you would feel a sense of accomplishment and rewarded

[vestal sparrow]

No that's not what we are saying. For instance red increases +5 for 1 level and epic +10 then next level red increaes +10 and epic +5 @floral latch

[floral latch]

This game is pretty f2p friendly in comparison to other games anyway, people just complain for the sake of it

[vestal sparrow]

^ efficency keeps swapping randomly between the two

[floral latch]

Efficiency is to not make them si40

[vestal sparrow]

Huh

[floral latch]

You just build one up every now and then once u get enough white chests and that's it

[vestal sparrow]

Bad take imo

[floral latch]

Not a bad take at all

[vague raptor]

Thing is, why going from 300 for si30 to 620 for si40 ...

[floral latch]

Si30 still going to be more relevant than +40

[vague raptor]

Too much of an increase

[lament bluff]

I bet they are going to give 20 epic emblems as the new misty rewards

[floral latch]

Of course they're

[vestal sparrow]

Not necessarily for instance someone wouldnt si 30 a lucius instead of si 40 a liberta. There is a drop in value in si 30 in which using red to assist with making si 40 will be a good call for a lot of players

[floral latch]

It's a slow grind

Have people become absolutely braindead lately or what

[granite cedar]

Honestly kinda glad about this, I’m incentivized to spend less now since the gap is too gigantic between dolphin and whale

[floral latch]

It's natural that it will take time to build si40

[granite cedar]

So I’ll just go back to a few bucks here and there. Maybe just noble

[vestal sparrow]

Ok marian is a yapper

[lament bluff]

Nah it's not. End of discussion

[floral latch]

I am a yapper because I'm not expecting 10000 chests a month for free?

Being realistic makes you a yapper

[lament bluff]

Who is asking for 10000 chests?

[wheat tartan]

You oversimplify things extremely

[vestal sparrow]

No one said anything about that. My point was it was odd that they made the increase in cost change each level???

[granite cedar]

My god yes lol. It’s almost like people with a green name have never learned how to communicate

[wheat tartan]

That's the issue ppl are taking with you @floral latch

[granite cedar]

They just love to be toxic and argue

[slow plume]

It's the second powercreep in like 3 months, we could expect ressources to build at least one or two +40

[vestal sparrow]

I say one thing and he brings up another random point I never brought up

[lament bluff]

Thank you a reasonable guy

[granite cedar]

I complimented somebody the other day and he goes “WELL I DID THAT IN 1 DAY” like okay bro thanks?

[floral latch]

I'm not, from what I've seen around people were complaining the same way about engravings and then they started handing over more and more overtime, people just like to complain early on for nothing

[wheat tartan]

Do you want to build a straw man 🎶

[granite cedar]

He’s the classic insecure yapper. “Well my dad can beat up your dad”

[vestal sparrow]

Lmao

[wheat tartan]

Do you really think they would give us that much more resources if ppl didn't speak up about it

[lament bluff]

I am thankful Marian is not our afk dev

[floral latch]

Yes, early on they give very little to make money, once they hit the preset budget they start handing out more for free, that's how all games work

You will soon start seeing deals Popping up with those chests

[wheat tartan]

You're missing the point, on purpose it seems

[kind vessel]

They renamed the RH stat to Vitality but the description still calls it RH

[wheat tartan]

Noone in their right mind is calling for deals though

[floral latch]

Whales are

They will buy the deals regardless

[lament bluff]

[wheat tartan]

There we go again

Any more straw mans you want to add?

[slow plume]

Whales are quitting because of too much powercreep

[tepid epoch]

Looks like someone is salty

[floral latch]

You're overly ignorant if you don't think about this game as a company

[wheat tartan]

Noone ever said it's not

It's just you trying to make a point noone was discussing

[floral latch]

And new whales will come to replace them, it's a never ending cycle nevertheless

[vestal sparrow]

love that last sentence. "Why do that? Just habits."

[slow plume]

If your budget to just keep up needs to be 500/month at least, less people would want to start whaling

[floral latch]

People were discussing about not being able to make even 1 si40 right away, and i gave valid points to why is that

[vestal sparrow]

No one said that

In the discussion we were having no one said that

[wheat tartan]

You're not, but you either don't understand the discussion or are willfully trying to derail it

[floral latch]

500/month ain't even whales, real whales go way past that monthly

There are some that will keep going to improve no matter the cost

[tranquil atlas]

Its pretty whale

[floral latch]

That's the people they're looking forward to

[floral latch]

That's relative

It all comes down to someone's income, 500/month for many is pocket change

[tardy root]

i bet my first is alyca xD

[tepid epoch]

Someone in my server already got Awakened Belinda to +40, for reference they are on Chapter 42

[slow plume]

You can't only take big whale and kraken into account. Lot of revenue is also from smaller fish. And this pcreep is just weird bc krakens already have every +40 and just have to wait for 50

[floral latch]

I've seen people call others whales for spending 50$ a month, if you're broke doesn't make others whales tbh

[tepid epoch]

So basically they wasted a bunch of red emblems

[floral latch]

There's not a single kraken that has every +40

[tardy root]

i mean

if you were spending red emblems on si40s

[floral latch]

Not even asalgurd gonna have them all +40 off the bat

[tardy root]

then you would still want to spend red emblems on si40s now. there's not much difference

[tepid epoch]

100+100

200 epic emblems

[tardy root]

you can spend red emblems slightly more efficiently is all

[floral latch]

I will personally just keep the red for the +30 as usual and get a +40 every now and then with the white chests

There's too many heroes that require+30 to be viable

[tardy root]

thought you were just saving 😛

[short iris]

How many red chests for si40?

[tepid epoch]

So they basically wasted 575 red emblems at least

[floral latch]

For older accounts they can go off the track i guess

[tepid epoch]

850

[short iris]

[tardy root]

how so?

[floral latch]

I am saving, I'm speaking of when I'll get to use the resources

I will still go for +30 over +40

[tepid epoch]

Oops

[short iris]

I mean its quite abit, do we have more ways of getting red chests than before?

[vestal sparrow]

I think I seen a picture of julius' account with his 9 LC team all si 40 already

[tepid epoch]

So they spent 575-625 red emblems

Which is around 2 +30 wasted

[crisp turret]

But bringing all regular faction heroes from 30-40 is a whole other can of worms… that is soooo many chests

[lofty coral]

is there anywhere that i can find all the latest codes and stuff like that ?

[tardy root]

you do get refund for any extra you spent

[tepid epoch]

Oh shoot

Then yeah

[floral latch]

I highly doubt that, but I'd like to see that screenshots tho

[tardy root]

saw someone screenshot their refund earlier

[vestal sparrow]

Yeah keep doing that eventually you will also want to get si 30 shemira prior to liberta si 40

[tepid epoch]

They wasted 1050 red emblems before patch

[crisp turret]

AFKNEW2024 is the last code I know of

[slow plume]

I will +40 a woke every 3 months and that's it

[tardy root]

yeah then you'd get 230 refund

[tepid epoch]

Which is not a good idea for F2p people

[lofty coral]

ty ty

[vestal sparrow]

No ur a professional yapper

[short iris]

I mean its not worse than red cores i think?

[floral latch]

For me +30 will always have a priority over +40

[safe panther]

+50 is only for your favourite heroes.

[tardy root]

Time to +50 emilia

[vestal sparrow]

same here for me si 20 is my priority over si 30 i always been picking yellow emblem over red

[crisp turret]

I think +50 is excessive. I feel like it’s better to spread out and get a bunch in the low 40’s then waste so much to get only a few to 50

[wheat tartan]

It kinda is, bcs you will have to revisit every single hero that's regularly used and reupgrade them. Or fall heavily in the several leaderboards we have and get most of our free rewards from

[slow plume]

ALyca +40 seems goods, I hope he is

[short iris]

[floral latch]

I just think that most people are over exaggerating, most of the ones complaining don't even have all the relevant si30 yet

[short iris]

Man

[wheat tartan]

Also have fun copying formations now

[short iris]

E100 type vibe

[wispy geyser]

rip

gavus :sadabomination:

[slow plume]

It's overwhelming to have to think about +40 too. But in the end it will probably be a thing we consider once every 2 months

[floral latch]

Some days ago i seen a guy complaining about si40 and he only had 2 si30

[safe panther]

I can work on his furniture and then get him a star.

[lament bluff]

Before we were able to build heroes at their max potential 309e60. Now it's going to change with Si 40 giving a new skill and epic emblems so rare. Even SI40ing top 5 meta heroes will take so long.

[floral latch]

As i said many complain just for the sake of it

I do understand the f2p that been around for ages tho

[wheat tartan]

Many/=all

[floral latch]

They're taken out of the competition

[wheat tartan]

Also many is just smth you think

[floral latch]

Newcomers have no reason to complain about si40 whatsoever

[wheat tartan]

Dolphins are screwed, too

[lament bluff]

You are complaining about them complaining. At least them complaining will make this game better

[slow plume]

I hate some case like Palmer. He's good at +20 but if the +40 is very good you will have to spend a lot of reds for it

[short iris]

Dolphins are how much spending per month?

[wheat tartan]

Don't even want to look at my TS leaderboard. That became unbearable after they merged the regions already

[floral latch]

Let me rephrase it, many newcomers that been around for just a few months or even less

[wheat tartan]

Varying, I'd say anything above 50 per month qualifies as small dolphin. That's roughly how much you needed for deluxe monthly and 2 nobles. Now you have to add collection perk card at 30 per month, too for some time

[short iris]

Thanks

[wheat tartan]

As said previously, we are talking about proper complaints. Not random riff raff

[floral latch]

The proper complains you're implying are mostly coming off old f2p players that won't be able to stay competitive for much longer

That's what usually happens with games

[wheat tartan]

Atm, if you're getting deluxe, collection perk and 1-2 nobles you should be kind of fine. Depending on account age you'd need to also add some kind of TG income to somehow get the mandatory wokes built

[floral latch]

F2p/and/or small dolphins as you call them

[safe panther]

The crazy thing is that +50 signature item has higher combat ratings than engraving level 80.

[floral latch]

All games end up like this anyway, overtime it gets harder and harder for f2p/low spenders to compete, that's just how the mobile industry works

[short iris]

Maybe when im not in uni or take a partial time job

[tepid epoch]

That’s almost as expected

Can’t wait for furniture power creep update :/

[short iris]

[radiant willow]

Is this good enough or do i rr (im lvl30 noob chapter 6)

[safe panther]

I would also rather that Lilith keep signature items go up to +40.

[short iris]

Sad that the mobile gaming industry is so bad

[floral latch]

The ones that will go for +50 you'll never compete against regardless

[safe panther]

And make it cost just 200 of those ascended emblems going from +30 to +40.

[floral latch]

Having +50 makes no difference

[tepid epoch]

I mean back in the days, you don’t really need in app purchases

It’s still dominating iPad kids to this day

[wheat tartan]

Don't worry, once your finished and work fulltime and have a family and a house your disposable income might shrink even further

[tranquil atlas]

Did u see mine

[short iris]

Clash of clans still doesnt, egg inc also but its the minority of games

[short iris]

[safe panther]

Tip: Avoid having babies.

[floral latch]

Speaking of that game, i got a friend who played it for 2 weeks spending and he's already beating up another friend that's been f2p for a year

[safe panther]

You can greatly reduce your spendings that way. More disposable income.

[tepid epoch]

But what if I want a family

[wheat tartan]

Life is p2w unfortunately

[wispy geyser]

#classic-questions pins

[wheat tartan]

Haven't found a f2p route yet

[floral latch]

Alaska

[safe panther]

Not worth the stress. You can adopt and cut 1/3 to 1/2 of the time however.

[floral latch]

You go hunt for your food, build your own crib