but seal 18 
#classic-chat
wispy geyser
viscid vale
Chuck it with dims or something 
runic depot
how much should i invest in ivan gear? T1/T2/T3/T4? does his dmg in his wand relevant for his skills?
thats my boi ^ ❤️
lament bluff
T4 all since he shares his attack rating to the ally I think
But always upgrade DPS first
He is not really used for dmg but for CC and buffs
runic depot
yup, im wondering how does his stats scalling with the buff ones
im guessing upgrading hat/boots/armor gives him more tankiness
wasnt sure of his weapon
if its worthy
vast arch
Just did my summons for new account
whole ravine
@cunning wigeon 
spice spindle
Where test people at
spice spindle
serene atlas
old bluff
they added another hour to test
woven pumice
Another hour !? 💩
frank spoke
Lol
spice spindle
What hack is this
frank spoke
guess its jackpot
Haven’t pulled 30k in years haha
dawn gyro
Slowly and steadily I'm building up Athalia.
prime isle
F yeh
pliant summit
I'm I the only one thinking we should get backlog of Si chest for every chapter we covered in campaign if that si 50 thing is happening and every Tower si level
spice spindle
They're giving it as campaign reward past ch 38
snow parcel
Just did my summons for new account
no awaken...noob..
floral latch
https://tenor.com/view/drunk-not-drunk-time-tell-time-gif-18468854
I remember that vid
viscid vale
I'm I the only one thinking we should get backlog of Si chest for every chapter ...
They are
Like what they did with baits
tropic tartan
Hi
viscid vale
Hopefully
spice spindle
Test people where
woven pumice
It will could be awakened unless they skip a cycle cause of the double
viscid vale
Test server is up
Not yet
woven pumice
These just got posted tho?
woven pumice
Ah ok
glass star
Wtf is this powercreep 
vestal sparrow
Who to si 60 first
viscid vale
It's done
hollow nova
si 50 just stats ? or new ability ?
viscid vale
si 50 just stats ? or new ability ?
Stats
hollow nova
oh okey
viscid vale
Patch done
lament bluff
It's engraveyard all over again
viscid vale
@woven pumice
vestal sparrow
Its doomed i was just going to post this pic
whole ravine
<@909541163944509470>
it's Ezizh with legs
spice spindle
Crocodile legs
woven pumice
<@909541163944509470>
Thanks 🙏
tame gust
wispy geyser
What would Saurus +40 give?
damage
glass star
rare pine
Is the test server update live? Do we know how much we need to 40si?
static bay
slow plume
so free 500 means not even one SI 40 
rare pine
Yeah lol. And another resource to take over baits
Well depending on the stat boost and skills
vestal sparrow
surely this won't end up being worse than ghoulish
leaden solstice
Talizmane 18 looks like he's high af xD
floral latch
Well depending on the stat boost and skills
glass star
Seems like Lib and Watha are guarenteed
vestal sparrow
These arent small buffs
tranquil atlas
Flora absolutely bonker
floral latch
Time for full hp collection on him
tranquil atlas
She aight
vestal sparrow
Albedo +40 just made her even more op upped to 20% from 15%
glass star
Wonder what they're gonna do for all the whales that already sig 40 their celepodims
tranquil atlas
They refund the differential
vestal sparrow
They refund the emblems
glass star
it costs new emblems though
tranquil atlas
Gang gang
floral latch
Apparently not
tranquil atlas
Doesn’t cost new emblem to go to 40
vestal sparrow
I think both based off the spreadsheet
floral latch
I heard that from +30 to +40 you use the regular red
tranquil atlas
Cost new emblem to go to 50 but u can use below
glass star
What's with the Epic emblem costs for sig 40 then?
idle walrus
the new system +30si to +40si = 820 red+ 650epic
floral latch
Anyway i feel like wukong will actually be viable
leaden solstice
there's list of new 40+ skills?
leaden solstice
yup but im asking about list of these skills
median fiber
yeah dude rigby just makes him absorb damage done and convert it to his barrel that he then drinks so much he spews on the battle field doing 10% hp per sec to other people
its wilden
glass star
ulti 30% dmg increase to 60%
holy fuck; double the increase
idle walrus
wait for someone to compile, its whole chunk of list
median fiber
source im the developer
glass star
Excited to see Thali's +40
vestal sparrow
He pulls out a machine gun
leaden solstice
whole tank
median fiber
his one shot hits all and he wins but it takes 20 seconds to charge hes immune to cc in that time tho
its also Mp and PP at the same time damage wise
idle walrus
leaden solstice
oh cool
leaden solstice
it's same for english and polish version so it's accurate i guess
floral latch
2000 for 5, what a great deal
little vessel
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/19f6p18/every_dimensional_si50_new_si_bonuses/
ayo someone compiled everything
well, not an actual sheet, but it's something
light sierra
this is way worse than engravings
safe panther
Also neat, high signature item level changes the colour to ascended/artifact.
Ascended+.
Also... 2000 diamonds for 5 emblems?
buoyant ermine
hi guys, qeustion is it still worth playing as a new player? i have and old f2p account or should i just make a new account?
west mapleBOT
Hello @buoyant ermine,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
wispy geyser
hi guys, qeustion is it still worth playing as a new player? i have and old f2p ...
restart
safe panther
Hmmm Tasi +40 looks huge.
Each time she teleports, she gains 15 Insight. Although Lilith should put a limit, state that it can be stacked 4 times.
buoyant ermine
restart
oke makes sense i geuss even tho i pulled like 2 awakenings early on on this account?
think account is like 4 months old
maybe a bit longer
safe panther
Hmmmm Saurus +40 is mid and should be changed.
safe panther
I can't wait until Lilith eventually add 36-furniture skill.
light sierra
furn wouldnt be as bad
meager nebula
Praying for a kaz buff with the incoming si40 skill
light sierra
Praying for a kaz buff with the incoming si40 skill
meager nebula
Thank you
meager nebula
So she just takes longer to die now 🥲
meager nebula
at least we getting woke estrilda in 2 weeks
Fr?
lament bluff
+2 emblems when you need 650 for one 40
meager nebula
Are there any notable si40 skills?
Or any that will make irrelevant heroes more relevant?
light sierra
+2 emblems when you need 650 for one 40<:lucretiaglare:852601572617617448>
well u can use regular red emblems
light sierra
Or any that will make irrelevant heroes more relevant?
yes
lament bluff
No I need to use them on new heroes every 2 weeks
tranquil atlas
No I need to use them on new heroes every 2 weeks
So true king
floral latch
+2 emblems when you need 650 for one 40<:lucretiaglare:852601572617617448>
It's not like you're getting a bunch of red chests daily either, they add up overtime
tranquil atlas
I feel broke @lament bluff hold me
little vessel
raku si40 kinda good no?
light sierra
ye
lament bluff
I feel broke <@592821332316520478> hold me
floral latch
What's his si40
little vessel
What's his si40
tranquil atlas
820 red chest for 20 AS and 30 PP
static rivet
Ramb where
floral latch
Might be one of the first I'll eventually make +40
safe panther
I love how there are huge stats improvements past +30.
lament bluff
Raku and New Wilder OP combo
safe panther
Why didn't Lilith just shorten Erosion to ERO?
karmic gazelle
To make SI level 40, will they need to use red boxes and epic emblems, or is one of them enough?
safe panther
Also I think this should be all-caps so it reads ARMOR.
light sierra
To make SI level 40, will they need to use red boxes and epic emblems, or is one...
one is enough
u get to chose
floral latch
Atheus+raku go brr
karmic gazelle
Thanks
floral latch
safe panther
In a way, I think +50 signature item is good.
light sierra
implementation sucks
safe panther
Shows that Lilith is showing some love to an old system.
But yeah, I can only hope it will be easy to +50.
meager nebula
So expensive 😱
safe panther
Oh that is a lot of emblems.
meager nebula
💯
I think now they may have rushed some of the si40 skills so they're not too strong, but the newer heroes will have planned out skills, just like with engravings
rare pine
and u can stack it
Yeah seems like it. Depends on how fast you can get to the 2000 threshold
This one seems like a good one too
light sierra
its kinda meh tbh
rare pine
But Liberta looks like the first upgrade, unless I'm missing something
safe panther
Hmmmm Alaro's +40 will make enemies lose 120 Magic Suppression, sounds scary.
light sierra
so 1120 red chests for si20-40
burnt wharf
man I do hope they increase the rate at which red chests drop cause the chokehold they put on resources is insane
light sierra
safe panther
If they could make the mythic emblems buyable for gold, it would be so nice.
burnt wharf
we are already forced to waste a ton of resource every single event to get the awakened
its gonna be a pain
light sierra
like where will they give that amount of red emblems
burnt wharf
idk, afk rewards
light sierra
weary pulsar
It is, what, a 230 reduction from the current +30 to +40? Does not seem reasonable at all
weary pulsar
We need a blanket reset on all heroes above +20
burnt wharf
ye they wont do that
weary pulsar
Course not
It is all about the money. They want you to buy those emblems to make it cheaper
burnt wharf
i was hoping we would get another hero swap scroll but that was denied too
weary pulsar
I know, I was at Cologne. Basically they are against offering us resets
burnt wharf
maybe this move has to do with the fact that ghoulish gallery was such a disaster haha
light sierra
should have reset all si30+ to 30 and make 30+ only cost new
safe panther
All meanwhile we now have to juggle between signature items and engraving.
burnt wharf
All meanwhile we now have to juggle between signature items and engraving.
beasts, dont forget beasts
safe panther
They also should ought to make the standard 4F heroes go to engraving level 100.
weary pulsar
While allowing us to have 80% trash heroes who are still going to be trash
weary pulsar
maybe this move has to do with the fact that ghoulish gallery was such a disaste...
Feels like a knife in the wound there
weary pulsar
Maybe next year
If the game is still going, cos I can see this causing a real issue amongst F2P. 2k diamonds for 5 of the epic ones = 260k diamonds for one +40
If you use epic ones for that instead of +40 to +50, which is clearly not what you want to do
burnt wharf
yeah, the diamonds are no go for f2p
vestal sparrow
Lilith really trying to kill their game over these last few months
burnt wharf
u need them to stargaze this overpowered heroes they keep shitting out
and buying the timecards
weary pulsar
Lilith really trying to kill their game over these last few months <:homegalul:6...
I think they sensed the backlash from collections and it actually upping the desertion rate of players, and decided to make another cashgrab
Doesn't matter to Lilith, they have other games which generate revenue
Just us, who have stuck by the game for years
burnt wharf
it makes sense since most of this changes feel like "yeah lets go with that" type of decision
light sierra
takes long to make all si40 skills and stats
safe panther
I also can't wait to +40 Isabella.
weary pulsar
this si change has been planned since before collections
I have no issue with the change. It is the cost that is my issue
vestal sparrow
The issue I have with it is that it's built on an already existing system
light sierra
my problem is that it takes existing resource instead of new and it costs way to much
vestal sparrow
^
weary pulsar
They could have cut the cost in half for +30 to +40
It wouldn't break their bank, whales always gonna whale for the +50s
burnt wharf
They could have cut the cost in half for +30 to +40
or allow us to upgrade lower tier materials into higher ones
light sierra
costs way to many of the new emblems for si40
burnt wharf
how many do u need to get from 30 to 40
weary pulsar
820
light sierra
weary pulsar
It costs 1050 right now
light sierra
820 red or 650 new
burnt wharf
yeah fuck that
light sierra
It costs 1050 right now
ye but thats just for krakens
now they force every1 to get it
burnt wharf
and they gift u 500 from the event and then u can claim from the campaign from chp 37 right?
safe panther
OG Athalia +40 also looks strong.
light sierra
ye
safe panther
Prevents the enemy from being able to recover energy, heal or receive shields for 8 seconds.
Just imagine, use her against Rem, and burst her down. She'll be destroyed.
burnt wharf
and rems +40?
makes her immune to all dmg for the first minute of the fight or smth like that
safe panther
Just a small increase to damage.
vestal sparrow
Rem + alna will kill that athalia
safe panther
From +30% to +40%.
light sierra
athalia still sucks
burnt wharf
awakened ath?
light sierra
regular ath
burnt wharf
no I mean hows the new SI on her
vestal sparrow
It was pretty good just more stacks of her sp I think
light sierra
burnt wharf
sounds good
vestal sparrow
Nvm its cleave 2x
safe panther
They should probably change Albedo's +40 to also also buff non-dimensional heroes.
burnt wharf
Aw Bel?
vestal sparrow
They should probably change Albedo's +40 to also also buff non-dimensional heroe...
Nah that would be broken
burnt wharf
it's just broken
in the good way or bad way
wispy geyser
overpowered
light sierra
it's just broken
aw bel gets useless si40
burnt wharf
welp, i was gonna upgrade her first so
vestal sparrow
What is it?
safe panther
weary pulsar
light sierra
wow 2 extra sec
wispy geyser
aw bel gets useless si40
well, the stats are nice 
light sierra
well, the stats are nice <:lycalurk:646429527379017768>
no she gets bad stats
wispy geyser
ME?
safe panther
So +40 means enemies will burn for 8 seconds instead of 1 second.
light sierra
So +40 means enemies will burn for 8 seconds instead of 1 second.
instead of 6
safe panther
Rather small upgrade but then again, Aw.Belinda is already strong enough.
light sierra
stats are meh
vestal sparrow
You can say stats for any hero though
safe panther
I think +50 is only if you really want to simp on your favourite heroes.
safe panther
Lilith should add signature item resonance that goes up to +30.
vestal sparrow
Nah +50 if you really want to not buy a lambo
light sierra
si40-50 is only the new emblems
light sierra
and its 1260
vestal sparrow
At 5 per 2000 diamonds so 500k diamonds for si 40 to 50 from shop
light sierra
think how many si40 u need to get before even thinking about si50
vestal sparrow
Asulgard gonna be #1 in all rankings soon
light sierra
ye
wispy geyser
dims are falling off
dims are falling harder than the toddler I tripped yesterday 
burnt wharf
and u bet those guys will be opening wallets as soon as the server is up
vestal sparrow
Yeah dims si 40 feels meh for the most part
wispy geyser
r44, considered a freegion 
burnt wharf
i remember that one dude who had all max engraving on all heroes 2 days after it got released
tranquil atlas
r44, considered a freegion <:badensweat:733092948433961031>
Think its just the comp that is sht in this debuff
viscid vale
Yeah dims si 40 feels meh for the most part
Albedo pretty nice at least
vestal sparrow
Rise of the 4 factions to be honest with these new si 40 so far from what i can tell
viscid vale
+15% to prior with 3 dims
wispy geyser
Think its just the comp that is sht in this debuff
yeah had back to back shit mods for dims
wispy geyser
but if dims are just trash in half the mods....
tranquil atlas
Its just this debuff and the comp
vestal sparrow
Albedo pretty nice at least
Yeah albedo is keeping the dims together
light sierra
drowsy ravine
<:isathumbsup:880561053287735407>
safe panther
I'm gonna +50 my lizard husbands Saurus and Alaro.
tranquil atlas
You rlly asking him why?
I mean u almost did it with antandra
U shud understand
wispy geyser
why
the acc is probably bad in pvp anyway, so he's just at the point of building heroes cos he likes them
torn steppe
@languid cedar time to si40 swolice alyca atheus and raku
Look atheus and raki combo
lofty bridge
Hi I am returning to AFK Arena, been gone for 2 years roughly, what did I miss? 👀
cloud void
u should have stayed gone
no offence
they just released a new powercreep system and afk 2 is coming
lofty bridge
they just released a new powercreep system and afk 2 is coming
a new game?
cloud void
yes
loud smelt
a new game?
It's been out for a while in some countries. Tried it and didn't like it at all personally
granite cedar
im gonna be vulnerable for a minute
wispy geyser
im gonna be vulnerable for a minute
so I can crit easier? 
granite cedar
I've been trolling the community about QQ'ing the SI change. But it hit me today, shits exhausting lmfaoooo
granite cedar
so I can crit easier? <:smug_dolly:598130491627012106>
crit me all night
wispy geyser
granite cedar
jk u wish i have so much CDB anyways
i dont even have my palmer at +30 si 😭
and i hate that old man
vestal sparrow
i dont even have my palmer at +30 si 😭
Si 40 him instead
granite cedar
thats the problem lmfao everybody saying his is most cracked. But i wanna use my emblems on heroes i like
vestal sparrow
Oh i dont even know his si. What is it?
granite cedar
at +40 its a bigger damage buff to the team
i know more crit is involved. and his +buffer stat goes ridiculous too
vestal sparrow
seems like a must have
vestal sparrow
This might change the meta a lot. Dims si looks pretty bad. But at the same time si 40 seems pretty expensive so idk
granite cedar
looking at the test server, they look really hard to acquire
they are selling 5 of them for 2k diamonds in the daily shop lmfao
assuming 300, itll prolly be 500 though. thats 120k diamonds !
🙂
vestal sparrow
Yeah lmao first the rods for 300 now this
kind vessel
Well you never bought reds from shop, you won't buy epics either
granite cedar
forsure, but its just some perspective
viscid vale
Give us reds for gold
loud smelt
assuming 300, itll prolly be 500 though. thats 120k diamonds !
It's 650
loud smelt
1360 for SI 50
granite cedar
ill prolly do Liberta and Scarlett and call it a day.
vestal sparrow
Si 40 to 50 is 500k diamonds for the krakens
granite cedar
xD
vestal sparrow
- a waiting time for shop refreshes
cloud void
they'll make it easier to get these emblems
vestal sparrow
Lmao
granite cedar
imma go make some eggs n bakey
vestal sparrow
For sure but always funny to see how they milk these changes when they first release
loud smelt
they'll make it easier to get these emblems
Yeah, and it'll be from where we currently get bait/core. So we won't get nearly as much anymore
safe panther
If only Lilith would make the emblems properly cost gold.
tepid epoch
I’m 100% sure we will get very few epic emblems in lab and vow
tepid epoch
I agree
cloud void
bait could be sold for gold
tepid epoch
I’m hoping we could also get more red emblems
granite cedar
whales are gonna have fun competing when these first come out. Instead of every whale being almost equally maxed they will have to make choices for the first time in ages lol
tepid epoch
@granite cedar ikr
torn steppe
whales are gonna have fun competing when these first come out. Instead of every ...
No whale even is done with collections
buoyant ermine
optimal start would be pulling 2 daimons with all the free scrolls and pulls you get from codes etc no?
vestal sparrow
whales are gonna have fun competing when these first come out. Instead of every ...
What choice? How much money they are gonna spend
But will be interesting to see which sj 40s will come out on top based on the whales
coral monolith
If you're not in... other servers... here's all the +40 skills
vestal sparrow
Trishea's looks strong
glad sand
Ulmus gets extra shafted
glad sand
Trishea's looks strong
Nevi's +40 looks very promising, but that's only on paper so far
cloud void
lava too
lament bluff
Most of the effects are trash but the stats are bonkers
granite cedar
My mind is like “HALT ALL INVESTMENTS” because of this change. Meanwhile this shit won’t make a dent of difference to my casual ass
light sierra
Most of the effects are trash but the stats are bonkers
a lot are rly good lol
granite cedar
Which one should I start buying my way towards? I’m stargazing lucilla currently
I’m thinking speed up the process for mortas or twins
lament bluff
From what I see, the decent ones are Albedo,Talene,Atheus,Liberta, Abrtus,Trishea and Probably Gavus and Eugene
Raku might be good for CR too
cloud void
normal talene or woke
granite cedar
I heard albedo 40 might be a bit deceptive
granite cedar
normal talene or woke
Ty
lament bluff
Normalene
granite cedar
Just for light martyr?
lament bluff
not sure how Lava 40 works. Could be OP
granite cedar
The value on awakened heroes for that me chant kinda sucks
Cuz I’m really never gonna invest in the old ones at this point so my only chance of ascending would be buying a copy every week for like 35 which fuck thaaat lol
cloud void
just go f2p
granite cedar
At least other heroes give scrolls and cards for 19 or 25 bucks
I enjoy spending a little
I eat out once a week now and as a treat I reward myself here and there 😎
safe remnant
Good team???
light sierra
no
languid cedar
@torn steppe 300 is a fine invest level
prime isle
Well damn.
torn steppe
<@661238930397462589> 300 is a fine invest level
But double his buff with si40
Litterly double
prime isle
Now watch them have pve enemies be SI50 in the future. How fun.
tepid epoch
I’m gonna literally cry after seeing those
languid cedar
But double his buff with si40
It was a comment on his furniture 
torn steppe
It was a comment on his furniture <:lycapalm:647312758060220417>
Oh
He works at mythic 30 lol
prime isle
I cannot wait to see a bunch of giant ass krakens, especially Julius, have all heroes' signature items at Level 50 day 1, Ultimately having they Level 1000+ heroes be at 69B+ Combat rating or something.
torn steppe
I cannot wait to see a bunch of giant ass krakens, especially Julius, have all h...
We have 5 team at 230b power atm
So around 46b per hero
prime isle
Yep.
sleek knoll
prime isle
That picture just keeps getting more accurate and more accurate every time. Just slowly.
Can't wait for green furnitures and Garages in the next few updates.
And of course Signature Item Level 60 finna be rainbow tier or something.
Looking forward to this in the global server soon.
junior sky
Is she useless without 3 furniture?
Not really
Who can help me with temporal rift and don't suggest me pins or the channel or else I would not ask here
granite cedar
Haha I caused a big shitstorm last night because of my temp rift skills and people asked me for help 😂
So imma sit this one out
quaint mesa
Which hero is more important: Fereal or Edwin?
Is fereal even important anymore when I have robin hood?
pseudo nimbus
Someone put the noob survival guide pls, tnx
prime isle
Hmph.
frail hinge
Someone put the noob survival guide pls, tnx
Oh yeah please - Im a bit lost lol (even if i know a bit of game like this) for example, is unlimited summon still available ? im new is it normal to not see it ?
median fiber
Some of my heroes and pets are higher investment he only has a higher mortas and an e60 Mulan that I don’t have but got me to 300 with no real problems
prime isle
Still wild asf making it this far for the first time.
median fiber
That izold
prime isle
Uh huh.
prime isle
Eh. Never seen how much of a giant ass change E60 on Mishka could be.
median fiber
She like needs it lol
granite cedar
Unfortunate I just see this now. I was able to increase my floor further by 10 with some alterations to these comps but it was my last attempt and I’m out of stability :/
Still stoked I got to 250 with 1 ascended awakened hero and a lot of less than meta heroes
vague raptor
brazen sonnet
alpine ice
Guys do you know how and where I can earn purple essences to lvl my skills please
I am stuck in the campaign
wispy geyser
I am stuck in the campaign
try tower
rain bay
I really hope with the new sig upgrades coming they give us a signature item reset feature that is unlimited uses. I have 27 heroes at sig 30 that I no longer need at 30, and would give me 8k Reds back , which would be 10 40s of they don't change numbers
Have a bunch of 25s as well
loud smelt
I really hope with the new sig upgrades coming they give us a signature item res...
we both know there's basically zero chance of that happening, we might get a reset for one SI but even then im not getting my hopes up
rain bay
They will need to do something because this addition is NOT going to sit well with ANYONE
It's for too much
Someone calculated the cost of a sig 40 from the shop, 5 chests for 2000 diamonds each. At 260k diamonds. Basically a full cel hypo worth, with average rates
granite cedar
They will need to do something because this addition is NOT going to sit well wi...
Lilith don’t care. Whales are gonna whale, this is their life. They will make a shit ton of money from this update
rain bay
Maybe
It will be very expensive even for whales so there's a chance the whales will be unhappy too
granite cedar
But yeah I’m not a fan of how this update is making me feel lol
rain bay
And this after the director of afk apparently said they'd lay off powercreep lol
What a joke
granite cedar
If this shook up the meta I’d be so happy despite the undertaking
rain bay
It won't
granite cedar
But it does look like this change will make the stronger heroes more strong and the weaker more weak
Yeah I know
rain bay
I looked through all the sig changes
granite cedar
Same
rain bay
It looks like only a handful actually get an upgrade skill wise
Trishea albedo, oden, raku
granite cedar
They could’ve done something awesome but instead they just increased meta
sweet crag
Some got nerfed
rain bay
And the awakened
sweet crag
rain bay
With the awakened tho I only saw a few great ones. Specifically belinda and athalia
Those stood out the most , safiya too for the 50% DR
granite cedar
I heard albedo’s is being overestimated because dims are falling off. I didn’t say it though 🤷♂️
granite cedar
Yeah but albedo 40 only applies to like what Rem and Emilia
granite cedar
It’s just a vacuum bonus though
rain bay
Eh
granite cedar
I wonder how many 40 SI the average f2p will get over time
rain bay
Not many at current cost
granite cedar
Is it gonna be like 60 engraving?
glass star
Those stood out the most , safiya too for the 50% DR
That sounds fucking cracked
rain bay
Is it gonna be like 60 engraving?
Worse
Far far worse
1 si50 is basically double an e100 in cost
Iirc
glass star
So much worst cuz Lillith hates it's playerbase
granite cedar
I don’t think 50 will be expected of f2p
rain bay
Reading the reddit
granite cedar
40 is gonna be the baseline
tepid epoch
So much worst cuz Lillith hates it's playerbase
I mean Lilith only cares about money in order to survive
And this isn’t new news since like 2018
rain bay
Every other addition has been at least decent initially
glass star
I don’t think 50 will be expected of f2p
If I somehow managed to do so, I would do like 1 hero period; most likely Vika
granite cedar
Maybe 1 or 2 SI 40 per year for f2p is my total random guessing
rain bay
Which is HORRIBLE
granite cedar
If I somehow managed to do so, I would do like 1 hero period; most likely Vika
Finally some Vika supremacy. Love her
rain bay
We have over 150 ascended tier heroes
If the new meta is 40si on a bunch. Only being able to 1 or 2 a year is Horrendous
granite cedar
60 engraving not much better lol
rain bay
Even e60s are easier than that
Hell I've done 3 e60s without spending any money in just the last 2 months
glass star
Finally some Vika supremacy. Love her
If I wasn't for the fact I'm still miffed at Lillith for fucking over Thali's sprite, I would do her
rain bay
Rift, misty valley, all give tons
tepid epoch
Engravings are fine to get tbf
rain bay
Yea
granite cedar
I’m still doing furniture haha
rain bay
Me too. I've still got a few to 36 put of my ones on wl
glass star
The real question is how much we're gonna get from all the gamemodes
rain bay
Well the guild chests from events will include them
glass star
I'mma start 36 Vika soon
rain bay
There was a ss of it on reddic
Reddit*
But that's absolutely rng how much u get from it
glass star
Might 36 Wafiya as well
rain bay
I'm tempted to do thesku
glass star
I skipped Lava
rain bay
Cause I have him 303680 rn
wispy geyser
I skipped Lava <:homegalul:646471490560196609>
he too manly for u?
rain bay
Was my first hypermax
glass star
Got Twins mythic finally
rain bay
Nice
glass star
he too manly for u? <:smug_dolly:598130491627012106>
He is too ugly for me
wispy geyser
He is too ugly for me <:homegalul:646471490560196609>
rain bay
He's very meta tho sadly
wispy geyser
I see how it is, all males are ugly
glass star
He's very meta tho sadly
Pretty much a perma Merc for me
rain bay
I see how it is, all males are ugly
She didn't say that whatsoever
glass star
I see how it is, all males are ugly
Nah, he in particular is just ugly as fuck
wispy geyser
She didn't say that whatsoever
she plays a girls only account for a reason
glass star
Some of the guys are kinda of nice looking
Though I don't really like the human looking guys that much XD
rain bay
she plays a girls only account for a reason <:freshseirus:753008851695042600>
Whatever she has fun with
wispy geyser
allow me to introduce Eugene
glass star
I tend to avoid humans in games cuz they're just boring for me
wispy geyser
wack comp but it works
rain bay
Is that trial?
glass star
allow me to introduce Eugene
Eugene actually has a really neat design
wispy geyser
Is that trial?
u can't trial him
glass star
I like the colors
rain bay
Cause no way someone has him 3* yet. H
There haven't been enough opportunities for copies
wispy geyser
I like the colors
he's very cool yeah
wispy geyser
Cause no way someone has him 3* yet. H
There haven't been enough opportunities f...
rift is the only way to even have him ascended at all
glass star
I also like Drez a bit; even if he is underwhelming meta wise
rain bay
rift is the only way to even have him ascended at all
That's what I thought lol
I get 30980 rift heroes lol
wispy geyser
rain bay
I've been playing for almost 5years xd
wispy geyser
rain bay
I've stopped spending in the last 6-8 months or so
They don't deserve my money anymore atm
patent oriole
someone posted every SI40 bonus info on reddit idk if y'all seen the post
rowan seems cool
rain bay
It's a minor buff
Tbh tho I'm kinda tempted to keep my thesku gigamaxed and have him be my only si50 lol. Might spend a little to do it idk
I still think theskus design is amazing
glass star
Tbh tho I'm kinda tempted to keep my thesku gigamaxed and have him be my only s...
I switched off of Thali for Vika; her design is so fucking nice in comparison
patent oriole
they're 100% decreasing the amount of emblems needed from 40-50, not a single person happy about it, 1260 or smth emblems bruhhh
glass star
Not a fox, but having an actually nice to look at sprite makes up for it
rain bay
they're 100% decreasing the amount of emblems needed from 40-50, not a single pe...
They need to decrease 30-40 as well
820 reds???? Or 650 epics
glass star
I mean, if they really wanted to follow a pattern, maybe 500 reds for +40, and then maybe 1k whites at most for 50
sweet crag
it should be like 200 epics or 450 reds for 30 to 40
glass star
200/240/300/500/1000 looks much better
but knowing Lilith that's never gonna realistically happen
sweet crag
Right now it's hilarious that they give us like 500 epic emblems and say huge gift while it's not even 1 si40
rain bay
It will if enough whales don't spend this update
patent oriole
ooo new celestials kit is out now
glass star
Wonder if they're gonna lock +50s to Celepodims like e100s
sweet crag
+60 for celepogs next update trust
sweet crag
no ezio he trolling
glass star
I don't have ezio either lmao
rain bay
I mean to be fair you had shemira
glass star
I mean to be fair you had shemira
I don't normally win against this guy; Shem is the only reason I can beat his Watha
rain bay
A global death defy is op af
Exactly lol
Meanwhile I haven't lost in my arena in 2 years XD
glass star
Alna rem no more; RemShem is the new meta
sweet crag
Just use both
glass star
Then I get stuff like this
I only have like 2 people that consistently beat me in arena, and it's purely cuz they have higher RC and Reso 18 pets
I experimented with alna Shem at one point as well; think Rem's more useful due to her furn passive
granite cedar
New heroes abilities look awesome
glad stratus
It 1600% so it's not much
solemn granite
It's still enough to make the alyca daemia ezio comp unbeatable
Ezio instantly ults and just starts 1 shotting everyone
hollow carbon
I heard about +50 and I should say here we go again with the hate 😂😂 (not talking only about me)
past pulsar
This update would be fine if it weren't for GG
granite cedar
Why does gg make this update bad?
worldly blaze
finally
tall thistle
sweet crag
Could have used the macro for it
hollow carbon
Can it search for specific heroes?
sweet crag
Not sure I know it can search until woke + a few epics or so
well the version my guild mate used did
might be updated now
Then you can just check if it's what you want, if not start again
hollow carbon
Does it work on phone?
sweet crag
Can't say only seen it used on pc
sweet crag
Does it work on phone?
Just checked seems to be designed for bluestacks
polar birch
What is a good PVE aathalia comp?
quaint mesa
Do you people know a good discord community with f2p guides?
torn steppe
What is a good PVE aathalia comp?
Ashem lucilla
Ivan aathalia liberta
prime isle
Ashem lucilla
Ivan aathalia liberta
Better yet. Try this.
floral latch
Does anyone need a lab buddy?
prime isle
Huh? Where's that?
In the Photoshop universe.
glad sand
In the Photoshop universe.
Good, it can stay in that universe
prime isle
Nah. It should be real. And so should 5 Awakened Shemiras.
prime isle
I guess.
glad sand
Or another term for a bundle of sticks?... actually that term might be against this server's tos
Not gonna risk it
hollow carbon
Does anyone need a lab buddy?
I need one
floral latch
I need one
Nice
You got good enough heroes?
If I don't have to struggle doing it then i can do it
hollow carbon
I personally can pass it easily
floral latch
Then you can add me to your team
hollow carbon
I'm not sure if the heroes are passed with the same builts
hollow carbon
I'm only one person though
floral latch
It's fine, as long as you don't struggle doing it then i shouldn't struggle either
floral latch
156888894 is my uid, you can send me a friend req
floral latch
I mean can 2-people team start it?
They should
Not sure 100% how it works but if you can do it solo then it should work even as a duo
torn steppe
Better yet. Try this.
hollow carbon
At any rate, I'd need to wait like 1 hour and a half to be able to add you to the team
floral latch
At any rate, I'd need to wait like 1 hour and a half to be able to add you to th...
Yeah at reset
As usual
But you do seem to have a team tho
Isn't that a full team?
hollow carbon
I'm pretty sure I don't have a team
We will see at reset I guess but I shouldn't have one
hollow carbon
I think that's another thing
hollow carbon
Not perfect, but for Labyrinth it should work out
floral latch
Oh yeah that should be fine enough
hollow carbon
Not perfect, but for Labyrinth it should work out
I mean I haven't found it really hard to pass it
floral latch
We will test it out tonight and see
prime isle
Sooo you ain't able to level sweep yet or something 🤔?
bright spire
Not perfect, but for Labyrinth it should work out
Holy
torn steppe
Not perfect, but for Labyrinth it should work out
hollow carbon
I know, I like him
bright spire
🤝 I haven’t committed as much
floral latch
Just send me a friend request in game darkling
bright spire
You might convince me with that
hollow carbon
I sent before when you sent the ID
hollow carbon
Tag me?
floral latch
Yeah here on discord to add me to the team
@torn steppe he can still sweep lab if it's a 2 man team right?
hollow carbon
I can sweep even when I'm alone haha
torn steppe
I think so yeaj
hollow carbon
And with 3 people it worked too
floral latch
I can sweep even when I'm alone haha
I don't think that's possible lol
hollow carbon
So, 2 should work I guess
torn steppe
I don't think that's possible lol
No lol
hollow carbon
Oh, I got it wrong, I thought you mean the 2 floors
prime isle
Nah. After completing Chapter 38, and after doing the dismal lab 30 times, you have the option to automatically sweep the first 2 floors every time. Solo or not.
Yep.
floral latch
I didn't knew that part
hollow carbon
I didn't know the 30 times part
floral latch
Well I'll try it tonight and see how it goes
I'm curious how the rewards are
Compared to the normal one
hollow carbon
I haven't played that much haha
prime isle
Damn I forgot that quest even exists.
hollow carbon
I haven't played that much haha
Considering I'm playing the game for quite some time now
hollow carbon
Damn I forgot that quest even exists.
So, it doesn't go a lot up?
floral latch
Probably that's the last one
torn steppe
I haven't played that much haha
But you're level 400 so basically you just slacked in doing lab 🤣
hollow carbon
Completely
torn steppe
Probably that's the last one
Ye
floral latch
I don't think that he slacked, it's once every 2 days, that's over 500 days
prime isle
Yep.
hollow carbon
And haven't leveled up my heroes almost at all, so ignore Level 460 haha
torn steppe
I don't think that he slacked, it's once every 2 days, that's over 500 days
Level 400 is close to 3 years
hollow carbon
I don't think that he slacked, it's once every 2 days, that's over 500 days
I'm playing from more than 3 years
floral latch
Oh well
prime isle
Yeah but it takes million years to be Level 400 and by that time you ought to have done over 500+ labs.
floral latch
I didn't even notice the lvl 400 tbh
meager cloak
i dont understand the one guy in my server with like level 670 RC tho
prime isle
🤨.
bright spire
i dont understand the one guy in my server with like level 670 RC tho
Server whale?
torn steppe
Im very old
meager cloak
Server whale?
def, since my server is kinda dead
bright spire
What server? Old one?
hollow carbon
Im very old
Only have these
torn steppe
Hoe and all the free events ones
prime isle
Too little of these homies.
torn steppe
I have the 5k points hoe one
hollow carbon
I have the 5k points hoe one
If it's not a secret how do you manage to fight in the Campaign? It's definitely nightmare in the upper chapters
torn steppe
If it's not a secret how do you manage to fight in the Campaign? It's definitely...
Alot of awakeneds lol
prime isle
If it's not a secret how do you manage to fight in the Campaign? It's definitely...
Uhhh it is pretty simple. Use extremely good ass teams. End of story.
torn steppe
Atm im stuck on a single stage thos
prime isle
And of course you have to switch things up a lot if you be underleveled.
torn steppe
And of course you have to switch things up a lot if you be underleveled.
Underleveled doesn't exists
hollow carbon
Uhhh it is pretty simple. Use extremely good ass teams. End of story.
It should still take a lot of time
prime isle
Underleveled doesn't exists
Right.
torn steppe
prime isle
Hmph. I went from 45-1 to 46-1 today in about 45 minutes.
hollow carbon
And I thought my difference is big haha
hollow carbon
Hmph. I went from 45-1 to 46-1 today in about 45 minutes.
Which Awakened heroes do you have?
torn steppe
And I thought my difference is big haha
Betterthen mine in gb tower
prime isle
prime isle
Which Awakened heroes do you have?
Awakened Solise, Awakened Baden, Awakened Shemira, and Awakened Athalia so far.
hollow carbon
That's actually bearable normal number
meager cloak
im only at a ~90 lvl deficit rn, just havent bothered to push campaign tho so could be better
hollow carbon
That's actually bearable normal number
I thought you would say like 8 or something like that
prime isle
Yeah not happening because I don't 💳.
bright spire
You’ve been playing since wokes released?
meager cloak
no eugene?
torn steppe
And I thought my difference is big haha
meager cloak
makess ense
torn steppe
Im not stuck im just lazy
bright spire
Eugene is mythic of course.
Sacrifices had to be made, everything to get him Ascended a little faster
meager cloak
i played back when ch36 was endgame
torn steppe
Tower ends in 25 floors anyways
bright spire
Interesting aBaden
torn steppe
Interesting aBaden
34f
prime isle
Technically stuck.
light sierra
towers only worth to do if u need sg or TE
torn steppe
Yep
light sierra
hollow carbon
Are you stuck?
meager cloak
isnt that like always tho
prime isle
Sacrifices had to be made, everything to get him Ascended a little faster
Yep. Sacrificing 160 red emblems be pretty annoying.
bright spire
Technically stuck.
Yup this explains 4 wokes with no spending
hollow carbon
What?!
torn steppe
Are you stuck?
Just lazy
light sierra
havent pushed since before i finished ashe or simona
torn steppe
torn steppe
My account is lb simp i can finish the tower if i pushed
torn steppe
Only 600 kt floors diff lol
meager cloak
im at celery tower floor 5
hollow carbon
tepid epoch
im at celery tower floor 5 <:homegalul:646471490560196609>
celery tower?
bright spire
@prime isle Do you play for fun or for high placements?
tepid epoch
where's the ranch
hollow carbon
My account is lb simp i can finish the tower if i pushed
My account is strongly Graveborn oriented
torn steppe
<@456226577798135808> Do you play for fun or for high placements?
He plays for gbs
prime isle
<@456226577798135808> Do you play for fun or for high placements?
Eh. Mostly fun I guess.
meager cloak
he plays for izold
bright spire
He plays for gbs
Explains the 5* wokes
torn steppe
Had oldthane e80 but i reset him
bright spire
I was already wondering why you had 4, but getting 5* on at least 2 of them explains it
light sierra
si40 next patch
prime isle
I have 3 5* Wokes actually but yeah.
light sierra
not rly excited
hollow carbon
Had oldthane e80 but i reset him
A lot better than me
prime isle
That next patch just finna increase the quit rates.
hollow carbon
si40 next patch
I don't want to hear about that
bright spire
I have 3 5* Wokes actually but yeah.
You do you
Games are meant to be fun
prime isle
Yep 
.
hollow carbon
I don't want to hear about that
I wrote hate and finally started to calm down haha
torn steppe
A lot better than me
light sierra
hollow carbon
Wow
bright spire
Very f2p 
torn steppe
I forgot awleen
hollow carbon
Very f2p <:brutus:560862453945073674>
Just like +40 SI.....
bright spire
2lene forgettable hero
light sierra
i saw a lot tbh
torn steppe
But alot of heroes gonna need stats
prime isle
So we just finna showcase everything now huh.
torn steppe
2lene forgettable hero
Very
prime isle
A lot of +40 Si abilities just be "Increase whatever by 50%" or something.
torn steppe
So we just finna showcase everything now huh.
Why simona not e60
Double ainz damage btw at si40
Bedo is a big upgrade too
bright spire
Double ainz damage btw at si40
Still outclassed by aBel
light sierra
a lot of si40 are insane tbh
bright spire
Lmao
torn steppe
Raku atheus combo op
light sierra
oden op
prime isle
Why simona not e60
Ehhh. And honestly I just like orange stars a lot. Like to hoard my red cores.
bright spire
Raku atheus combo op
Raku Ivan Mishka Tamrus Atheus might go crazy
light sierra
simona e60 is actually good ability though
torn steppe
Ehhh. And honestly I just like orange stars a lot. Like to hoard my red cores.
I see simona e60 has a very nice ability thos
prime isle
Fair.
torn steppe
Raku Ivan Mishka Tamrus Atheus might go crazy
Mishka prolly same issue that she doesnt survive
Tarmus is also nice
light sierra
naroko nice
torn steppe
Olgarth was 60% more damage too
bright spire
Naroko is the only one I think could be worth getting relatively early on
torn steppe
Liberta was op op
torn steppe
Naroko is the only one I think could be worth getting relatively early on
The extra stacks of debuff from nadia right
bright spire
The extra stacks of debuff from nadia right
Yep
torn steppe
eugene op as hell
Haven't seen his
bright spire
70% def shred in total with SI40
light sierra
Haven't seen his
torn steppe
Wtf
bright spire
In general I think SI40 is going to be a late game thing
light sierra
70% def shred in total with SI40
and 56% atk to allied
torn steppe
His si40 is broken
light sierra
maetria is good
bright spire
Glad I prioritized Eugene now