classic-chat

[vague raptor]

Icic

[floral latch]

That's because you're using your resources strictly for him

I need baits more than i need him in events

[vague raptor]

I'm getting him A1 than go back to baits

[obsidian jewel]

Have you got all six copies of him

[floral latch]

No

[vague raptor]

They also adding him in Rift

[floral latch]

As i said I'm not getting him from events

[obsidian jewel]

So you didn't get him from the previous event I'm not talking about this one

[floral latch]

I rather get 500+ baits than getting a copy of him

I have like 4 copies of him or whatever

[obsidian jewel]

Did you get one from the code

[floral latch]

Yea man

[obsidian jewel]

I'm probably going to get him five stars and worry about whatever else I'm going to get from events

[lusty mulch]

I mean eugene has already shown results at M so I'm definitely investing

[floral latch]

I still feel like baits have a way bigger impact in the game than just having 1 extra awakening hero

[lusty mulch]

A waste to not invest in a free awakened

[floral latch]

In the end it all comes down to preference

[obsidian jewel]

But I feel like Eugene is the second best awoken hero on the game but that's just my feeling so that's why I'm getting him like that

If you still want to get Bates you do that

[floral latch]

Oh hell no

[lusty mulch]

I mean I prefer to have a stronger account than a weaker one

[floral latch]

He's definitely far from being the second best

[lusty mulch]

He's DEFINITELY not second best

Even remotely

But he is quite good

[obsidian jewel]

I did say it was my opinion

[floral latch]

Which is exactly why baits are more important

Having your pets to 18 as soon as possible is more important than having a single awakened hero

[obsidian jewel]

I've already got pet resident nine

And getting that much bait is it going to get me any quicker to 12 or 18

[floral latch]

It is if you add them up overtime

[obsidian jewel]

I could say the same thing about having him built and ascended we don't know none of us can see the future

[floral latch]

You're basically giving out on like 8000 baits in a year just so that you can build an awakened hero

Not a good trade off

[obsidian jewel]

Not necessarily

[floral latch]

Wdym not necessarily

[obsidian jewel]

Don't forget they are adding him to the summons so you get one from the guild store one from summons and one from the events you will have him ascended five star in no time

[floral latch]

The times you get him from events are the baits you're never getting

[obsidian jewel]

I wasn't getting baits from events anyhow

[floral latch]

That's on you

[visual galleon]

hey there, a couple years back they released a new power creep mechanic that was introduced step by step - first week was LB next Mauler ect. ...was that furniture or engraving? ^^

[floral latch]

Pets are by far the most important thing in the game at the moment for me

[obsidian jewel]

Again if you want Bates from a vent by all means do so I'm not telling you not to and I'm not telling anybody else not to I'm just getting Eugene from the event

[floral latch]

Yeah to each their own

[obsidian jewel]

That was engraving

[floral latch]

If i end up having reso18 i will most likely beat someone that has eugene done but has reso12 because they focused on getting him done

At least that's how i look at it

[obsidian jewel]

@floral latch I have a friend that says you should get juice but he also says you should get artifact upgrades from events so like you said to each their own

[vague raptor]

Dunno, I sometimes beat people with 18reso with my reso 12

[prime isle]

^.

[floral latch]

That's definitely not because of 1 extra hero tho

[glacial bloom]

@vague raptor

[floral latch]

That's multiple heroes

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

Don't mind me anyway, i might be dumb

[floral latch]

I just feel like pets have a better overall utility than having 1 extra awakening

[glacial bloom]

ur Krolo THE Kraken ur literally the biggest whale ik

[vague raptor]

The way i see it, is if Eugene is meta when fully built like in NC CR and TS. I won't be behind anybody else that have him.

[floral latch]

I will eventually reach the point when i can just grab a full copy of him monthly off of guild store so i see no point in rushing him

[vague raptor]

Reso 12 or not, I'll slowly build them

[vague raptor]

Nuh uh, bad Krimo

[floral latch]

That's because you already have reso 12, I don't even have reso 6 yet

[glacial bloom]

more like bad krolo for not funding my gavus

[floral latch]

I'm definitely not giving out on bait just for one awakened

[vague raptor]

Said the one with a second home

[glacial bloom]

wat abt my home

[vague raptor]

That's big kraken behavior

[floral latch]

Anyway I'm expecting wukong to be great again with the si40

[glacial bloom]

how

[tardy root]

wait they're adding si40 abilities?

[floral latch]

Yes

Even to 4f

[tardy root]

lol wtf

[floral latch]

You'll need a different type of emblem tho

From 30 to 40

That will drop from chapter 37-60 onwards

[tardy root]

what if you already have si40?

[floral latch]

You probably just keep the si40

[tardy root]

lol huh

i better finish ch 37 then

[floral latch]

Either way many gonna quit

[tardy root]

They will anyways

why would they quit over si40 change tho?

[floral latch]

It all depends on how good that change is

If it goes from making irrelevant heroes good then it's a bad thing for most people

Just like how furniture made irrelevant heroes like grezhul relevant again

[tardy root]

Lol they already quit over ghoulish

Nice

[floral latch]

Yeah and those who remained will quit after that

[tardy root]

Hey i support making bad heroes useful again

just means I get more heroes to build, whats the issue?

[floral latch]

The issue is lacking the resources to do so

[kind vessel]

It's extremely unlikely to make weak heroes become good
More realistically it's just another layer of stuff required for good heroes

[tardy root]

That the guy who built 5 star ulmus is suddenly kicking your ass?

[floral latch]

Those who already are building up the meta will have a hard time if this update turns out to change the meta even further

[tardy root]

nah cause

[near cedar]

Just don't build Meta

Problem solved

[floral latch]

True

[near cedar]

[floral latch]

My favorite chinese letters boi

[tardy root]

the meta is the meta, if everyone else has the same problem then it's not so much a problem XD

[tardy root]

true

[floral latch]

It is if they turn irrelevant heroes into powerhouses

Those who are currently building up meta would go braindead over such change

[tardy root]

i mean it's good for you since you save everything anyways

[floral latch]

Oh yeah it's not a problem for me lmao

I don't really care what they do

I'm just looking at it from someone's else perspective

[tardy root]

I dont really care

Like

[floral latch]

I see why some people will end up quitting if the change is major

Like you go and rewind ainz and next update he gonna be broken again because of the si40

Then I'd be pissed as well

[tardy root]

I pull on alyca early cause i dont care that much xD

[floral latch]

[tardy root]

dont have to optimize every variable xD

[floral latch]

The only actual problem I'm gonna expect is that once i gonna have to build up my heroes properly I'll also need si40

[tardy root]

lol better pass ch 37

[floral latch]

I feel like most of those heroes that are already good at si30 will need si40

[tardy root]

[floral latch]

Like abelinda and so on

[tardy root]

yeah if wokes have good si40s then normal heroes will starve for a long time

which is sad

[floral latch]

The problem is gonna be moving forward with the new heroes that all of them will most likely require si40

[tardy root]

i mean

[floral latch]

I feel like the typical 4f will benefit more from this than actual wokes

[tardy root]

Lol the question is whether 4f will be higher prio than wokes

[floral latch]

Like some heroes that are worthless will end up being good

That's my expectations

[tardy root]

cause if not, most people wont have any resources for 4f for a long ass time

assuming si40 take way longer than si30

[copper sail]

4036e80 walker might not be a dream after all

[floral latch]

Kinda funny if those who did walker for the memes and made him op ends up turning him actual op with his si40

[copper sail]

plus i wonder how many of us will regret resetting ainz now

[tardy root]

lol

[tardy root]

none

[floral latch]

But are they gonna release all the heroes at once? Like it's crazy having every hero have a new ability all at once

[copper sail]

like if his si40 just adds a 0 to his damage scaling cap numbers

[obsidian jewel]

Hopefully nobody will regret regressing him people shouldn't have made him E80 in the first place when he is good at E60

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

Wut

Ryan is the real goat

[copper sail]

no reason for it to be different than how they did it with furniture and engravings

[tardy root]

his signature item affects his ult, so i'd assume si40 would too

[floral latch]

It's kinda crazy nevertheless, there's so many heroes in this game

Most games would go on and release batches rather than all at once

[tardy root]

[+40 Unlocks] The Ultimate ability "Fallen Down" deals an extra 3000% damage.

[obsidian jewel]

I don't know if they're going to have them all have new abilities or not but I do understand what you're saying that's going to be some serious lag if it does

[torn steppe]

I reset my e80 oldthane and e80ed lavatune and daimia

[safe panther]

The fact that even standard 4F heroes can go to +50 is crazy.

[floral latch]

When is the update on the test, is it tomorrow?

I might have to download it again to check some of them heroes

[obsidian jewel]

Are you on the test server or official server

[safe panther]

Rem's +40: Permanently decreases her damage dealt by 90% in Arena of Heroes, Legends' Challenger Tournament, Treasure Scramble, and Heroes of Esperia.

[tardy root]

ok

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

Don't mind kitteh,he always hated rem

[vague raptor]

Ik

[floral latch]

Wdym

[obsidian jewel]

The update on the test server happens tomorrow the update on the official server doesn't happen until Tuesday / Wednesday

[floral latch]

I know that

That's why i said that i should probably download the test server again tomorrow

[obsidian jewel]

For some reason my mind completely deleted the word test in this sentence

[ebon acorn]

Can someone here help me out with pointers I've been help chats and nothing

[west maple]

Hi, @ebon acorn!

If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help

[obsidian jewel]

Okay you get it now from APK pure I don't remember how you used to get it before

Then again you might live in one of those countries that can actually download the test server from the Google Play store

Speaking of that that's what I wish they would hurry up and do make it where I can download the test server in my country without having to go through APK pure

[floral latch]

Apk pure yeah

[obsidian jewel]

You want a link

[floral latch]

I have the apk pure store

I will just download it tomorrow

[tardy root]

read pins in #classic-questions

[obsidian jewel]

What's your problem with Rem

[safe panther]

Boring design.

[obsidian jewel]

I like her and everything I just wish they would have made her sister as well

[safe panther]

Literally just a maid. If anything, she should be nerfed so she can't be healed or shielded while in demon form.

[obsidian jewel]

Do you watch the anime

And just imagine how broken she would be if she actually does what her kit says she does

I don't know if the bottom part of that is Lost in translation or what but doesn't the meaning of fatal damage mean death

@safe panther what does that bottom part mean I never really understand that I read it to say that she resurrects a hero but that is not what happens so who is the their the game is talking about in that bottom part of that sentence or do you have any idea

[unreal arch]

@main tree a very hard question. SI30 lavatune or copy of eugene

[main tree]

Eugene

[obsidian jewel]

To be honest nobody can really answer that except for you which do you think would make you more happy

[unreal arch]

fine ill get free awakened.

😔

[obsidian jewel]

Me personally I'm going for Eugene

[unreal arch]

what will make me happy... hmmmm

[obsidian jewel]

Some people are going for bait some people are going for juice some people are going for artifact upgrades and some people might go for what your other option was

[unreal arch]

well ive been wanting to si 30 everyone but never have the mats.

ohhhh i forgor i need juice too

and poe

and bait

[obsidian jewel]

Tell you the truth me personally I'm going for Eugene and if I have anything left over I figured that out when it gets there

[unreal arch]

ig might as well finish eugene. at M already

[obsidian jewel]

I feel that getting one copy of Eugene out of events makes it easier and quicker to build him than having to get all of them from the guild store

[unreal arch]

my hypogeans lacking anyways.

😔

[obsidian jewel]

If I only get Eugene from The guild store is going to take me 6 months to get him ascended getting him from events might knock out 3 months

[unreal arch]

i just rn got the first eugene copy from guild shop

picked shards over TE

[obsidian jewel]

On my main account I'm already working on a second copy I'm at 30

[unreal arch]

nice.

[obsidian jewel]

That's also getting the first 60 and the time tickets in the first month

[unreal arch]

just one more copy of zolrath from shop.

and he'll be ascended

took me long enough

[obsidian jewel]

I'm working on OG ballerina from the Challenger store

Let's see if you know who I'm talking about

[unreal arch]

?

[obsidian jewel]

@unreal arch she became awoken but she's not the first awoken and she looks like a ballerina

[unreal arch]

oh that needle person

[torn steppe]

Old athalia is useless

[unreal arch]

[torn steppe]

[obsidian jewel]

I only have her for her Tower

[torn steppe]

Even fir tower

[unreal arch]

mine still Legendary i think. i totally didnt build some bad celestials.

[torn steppe]

Her awakened version just carries the entire tower

[obsidian jewel]

Well I don't have her awoken version yet

[cedar hamlet]

13b for lv400 acc?

U dont lv up ur rc or what

[unreal arch]

uhhh idk tbh

im always out of dust

[torn steppe]

Yet

[unreal arch]

[safe panther]

The dust wall is real.

[torn steppe]

I could be better

[unreal arch]

[torn steppe]

Need to finish vei

But new cele incoming

[unreal arch]

thicc orthros

[tardy root]

im usually gold and exp capped

[torn steppe]

Very

[tardy root]

but barely

[unreal arch]

no doost.

[obsidian jewel]

@torn steppe my C/H

And my other awoken heroes

[unreal arch]

[torn steppe]

Are you allergic to red chests @obsidian jewel

[obsidian jewel]

I'm sorry what

[patent oriole]

hes also allergic to liberta and lavatune

[obsidian jewel]

I'll get to them when I get to them

[unreal arch]

[obsidian jewel]

See now they got a new celestial coming out and I think I want her over those two dudes

[unreal arch]

2 more copies til i can ascend lavatune!

[patent oriole]

waifu puller huh

[torn steppe]

You need alot lf red chests

Also how 5* alna already

Nvm

I see pl 400

[rough pendant]

Can someone check my question in #classic-questions

[obsidian jewel]

No not really I just prefer to build heroes I like

@torn steppe does this answer your question about red chest

[floral latch]

She's actually getting buffed next update

[torn steppe]

Oh i see

Dimensional boi

[obsidian jewel]

I love dimensional so yes I put most of my resources in them

[floral latch]

Now i have more respect for you

[obsidian jewel]

Thank you

[vague raptor]

Dimensionals are fun

[floral latch]

I'm sad that i started so late ngl

Because some of them dimensionals I'll never truly own

Just borrow for 30 days even if it's free

[obsidian jewel]

That's why you always get one from The exchange no matter how bad they are they will always make another hero to make them good some way

[vague raptor]

Yeah like RH with ashem

[floral latch]

Nah let's not talk about rh

[obsidian jewel]

And samurai dude with Rem

[floral latch]

I'm still pissed about that

[vague raptor]

[obsidian jewel]

What are you mad about

[floral latch]

I ended up with 58/60 last day of his exchange

I couldn't get him

[vague raptor]

[floral latch]

Now i must get 15 shards a month

[vague raptor]

Wait, you couldn't exchange the 58 shards?

[obsidian jewel]

You do realize you can speed up the shop right

[floral latch]

Why, does that count as actual shards?

[vague raptor]

I mean, it should?

[floral latch]

You can only use it when it's 60/60 no?

[obsidian jewel]

Yes but you could have figured out another way to get those last two points

[vague raptor]

If you had 58, they should have given you them. And than you only had to do one month of shard?

[obsidian jewel]

@floral latch But in my opinion in the long run you getting him cheaper doing it this way

[floral latch]

I legitimately couldn't

Started too late

I didn't make it in time to have enough

[floral latch]

Doesn't work that way

[vague raptor]

That's bs

[floral latch]

You must be at 60/60 to exchange otherwise you can't do it

[obsidian jewel]

In the long run it's going to cost you 40K more lab coins getting him this way then it would doing it the other way

[vague raptor]

Oh well

[floral latch]

I already 30 shards of him and joana anyway, 45 soon

[obsidian jewel]

But trust me it's cheaper that means you would have saved a bunch of Challenger coins hero coins and guild coins doing it this way

[floral latch]

So in march I'm getting both him and joana

[obsidian jewel]

Do you have the coins now

[floral latch]

Unless they add a collab, then i must wait a bit more

60k, and no I'm not refreshing the shop

No point in giving them 1k diamonds for that

It's not like i have good heroes to link them up to anyway

[obsidian jewel]

Joan of Arc is worth 1,000 diamonds just think you spend 2,700 diamonds on a chance for a purple in summoning 5,000 if it's stargazing

[obsidian jewel]

No but having Joan of Arc will help you get some better heroes she will help you push campaign

[floral latch]

As i said I don't have good heroes to link them up to anyway

I'm not using my resources for a year

The only thing i use are baits

[obsidian jewel]

Well I started up a count on the test server 2 weeks after Rem & Emelia dropped and I still got both of them

Completely free to play

[floral latch]

Bro, what you are not understanding

I literally started 2 weeks before robin would be gone or so

[obsidian jewel]

Which quest did your mentor send you

[tardy root]

what

[floral latch]

He's always sending lab

[vestal sparrow]

Finally got my rem 3f

[tardy root]

that's such an invalid comparison

[floral latch]

He's talking about refreshing the lab

[tardy root]

ik

that's such an invalid comparison

[floral latch]

It's not

[obsidian jewel]

Oh okay now I see I thought you meant two weeks until his drop you meant two weeks until the exchange

[floral latch]

Makes sense what he said

[tardy root]

yes it is. do you spend 240k lab coin on a hero or 240k lab coin and 3k gems on the same hero?

how can you compare that to getting an extra hero from sg?

[obsidian jewel]

I started up an account just to see how fast I could get King Arthur and I got him in 41 days

[floral latch]

He meant that it's better to spend that 1k diamonds for the last 15 shards than wait a month

[granite cedar]

Holy shit my head hurts reading this convo

[floral latch]

Like to unlock the full hero

[sweet ridge]

Heya folks. Anyone happen to have a particularly good opening for stage 102? Not feeling like I've figured it out

[vague raptor]

Nunu and Willump pfp, based

[tardy root]

lol it's still not getting you anything extra besides 1 month of use. The sg hero would get the full account life of use

so it's not a comparison

[vestal sparrow]

You already know 😎

[floral latch]

Tomi

What in the actual fuck

[tardy root]

and you can spend the 60k lab on something else in meantime too xD

[floral latch]

You're making me lose braincells

[tardy root]

so its not even that

[granite cedar]

I can’t even follow

[vestal sparrow]

How can you afford buying lab shards twice in a month while garrison

[tardy root]

lol idk someone was saying to spend 1k gems for joan cause she's worth more than 1k gems

like what

[obsidian jewel]

There's nothing to buy in the lab store except for dimensions

[granite cedar]

I use mostly hero for garrison it’s plenty

[tardy root]

then buy dimensions lol

[granite cedar]

Then a lil bit here and there of the others but never guild

[floral latch]

He said that it's better spending 1k gems to unlock 1 hero than spend 2.7k in the chances of getting an elite or 5k to get a cell/hypo

Which he wasn't wrong

[tardy root]

if you're whale im sure it's worth refreshing

[vestal sparrow]

Are you doing 200 or just 100

[floral latch]

You made this stupid convo overly complicated for no reason

[vague raptor]

Red chest, red dims emblems, poe coins, shard and cores

[granite cedar]

200

[tardy root]

it's not 1k gems to unlock 1 hero, it's 1k gems to unlock 1 hero slightly earlier

[obsidian jewel]

Trust me you will have plenty of resources to Garrison and get all the dimensionals out of the lab store and Challenger store and get other stuff

[granite cedar]

I would gladly spend 1k diamonds to speed up a month

[tardy root]

like it might be worth, especially if whale, but the comparison is invalid lol

[floral latch]

That extra month can make a difference between you being stuck on a chapter or you progressing further, so I don't see what is this conversation about

He's not wrong so drop it

[granite cedar]

Forsure lol

[vestal sparrow]

Yeah but doing lab 2x a month while doing garrison is impossible i believe unless vip or something

[obsidian jewel]

No you just have to have a good dismal maze team

[granite cedar]

Oh I’m vip

Always dismal

[tardy root]

sorry just see bs logic and had to comment

[granite cedar]

With like 9999999 dura tears I never use

[tardy root]

but yeah it depends how much actual value joan gives in that 1 month

[floral latch]

Not impossible, I'm getting 15 joan and 15 robin shards monthly+ garrison

[obsidian jewel]

Also you only Garrison one hero at a time that way you can get that first hero for 2 months

[granite cedar]

Let me use dura tear for Harrison 👌🏻

[tardy root]

wtf

[granite cedar]

Garrison

[granite cedar]

Explain plz

[tardy root]

this dude spends 1k gems to get joan slightly faster, but waits 6 months on emilia?

🤣

[floral latch]

He's not wrong this time either

[obsidian jewel]

The first time you Garrison a hero you Garrison them for 29 days and then you can Garrison them again in the same month and it will give you 59 days

[tardy root]

Im out

[floral latch]

You better off getting 1 hero done at the time rather than getting them done another way

Emilia needs good investment to work properly anyway

[tardy root]

no she doesnt

[obsidian jewel]

No I don't have to Garrison her I got her on 12 accounts completely free to play from The exchange if that was to me

[floral latch]

By the time you get the 6 times rem done you get to start getting emilia

[tardy root]

she can freeze all enemies on E which is good enough for early game

[floral latch]

You realize that you can consistently garrison the same hero right? You don't have to wait that 30 days cooldown to garrison again

It just adds up time

[tardy root]

ok...?

[vestal sparrow]

Dismal maze average is 7105 there is 15 labs in a month. 12 which is normal 3 which is doubled therefore your making 107575 lab coin per month. Lab shards is 60k alone leaving you with less than 60k left

[floral latch]

So he ain't waiting 6 months

[tardy root]

well he says he already has her so it makes sense then

[floral latch]

You can just have her done by month 3 and move to the next

[vestal sparrow]

The math isnt mathing unless I did something wrong

[obsidian jewel]

And if she dies Puck will kill everybody so you need Rem more Rem helps your heroes survive Puck if Emelia dies

[floral latch]

Or by month two if you're higher vip

Since you can get 300 stones a month at higher vip

[tardy root]

obviously you get rem first

[floral latch]

I'm only getting rem at the moment

[tardy root]

but whatever, if you have her, then my point was moot

[floral latch]

Until she done, then i move to Emilia and so on

[obsidian jewel]

If there's anybody here needing to Garrison Rem or Emelia I have both of them on 12 accounts

[tardy root]

nice

[obsidian jewel]

Well I'm sorry scratch that make that nine three of my accounts are on the test server unless you all have test server accounts y'all can't Garrison them from the official accounts

[vestal sparrow]

Im still confused on how yall get 174k lab coins a month

[obsidian jewel]

@floral latch So in other words if you decide to read download the test server and play it I can be your friend on there and you can Garrison Rem and Emelia from me on there

[floral latch]

So how you don't

[granite cedar]

I get way more than that lol

Idk how

[floral latch]

I don't play there

[obsidian jewel]

Dude I have got quadruple that

[vestal sparrow]

From where I did the math and average is 104k a month

[tardy root]

$2 subscription gives +10%

[obsidian jewel]

Don't forget about week they double them in a month

[granite cedar]

Hmmm I think I get anywhere from 250-350 a month

But I’m just guessing

[vestal sparrow]

Yeah I considered that

[floral latch]

I definitely get over 150k a month

And I don't have any fancy subscription or anything

[granite cedar]

I started playing about 1.5 months ago and I was able to get Joan of arc complete in that time from scratch

[floral latch]

I don't even have the big lab yet

From friday i can start doing the big one

[torn steppe]

@floral latch Hi kraken

Btw my name is close to yours

[vestal sparrow]

Maybe the campaign rewards for completing x times and solemn vow for you marian

[floral latch]

[torn steppe]

Im maria-rita

[obsidian jewel]

@vestal sparrow Do you do regular labyrinth or dismal maze

[floral latch]

I know maria

[vestal sparrow]

Dismal it gives more. 7105 on average

[torn steppe]

[floral latch]

[obsidian jewel]

Are you always doing it for your team or are you ever able to sweep it

[vestal sparrow]

Sweep im selfish lmao it gives more rewards

[floral latch]

@torn steppe do you need a lab slave?

[obsidian jewel]

Then you should be getting more than that

[floral latch]

[torn steppe]

I have 2

I havent done lab in 2 years

[floral latch]

Damn

Big momma getting Carried

[torn steppe]

I carry them w my heroes

[obsidian jewel]

I have a bunch of DMT

[floral latch]

[tardy root]

n idk i double garrison and im 45/60 on joan and even got some dim emblems and rh shards

[tardy root]

only like 77 days in

[tepid epoch]

Haha I wish I was you

[torn steppe]

[tepid epoch]

Idk why Im waiting outside

It’s 6 mins before class starts and the instructor won’t let us in

[torn steppe]

Lmao

[tepid epoch]

And it’s a discussion class

[obsidian jewel]

I hope the collab with cyberpunk falls through

[tepid epoch]

Cyberpunk is meh

[floral latch]

@vestal sparrow And i have the regular lab

I even bought a copy of wukong this month

[obsidian jewel]

Unless one of the dimensionals will be Keanu Reeves from cyberpunk 77 whatever the video game is called

[vestal sparrow]

Interesting why no hero coin usage though

[floral latch]

Cuz I'm not allowed to use my resources for a year

[vestal sparrow]

I see

[floral latch]

So I'm saving them up for the next collab

[obsidian jewel]

You always want to try to keep 80k hero coins for duo exchange

Then again that might just be me

[floral latch]

@tardy root anyway, speaking of extended time, that's what i meant, you can keep getting the same hero until it's done and move to the next

[floral latch]

But since I'm pretty much a new account i was probably getting more than the average if you count in all the missions

[obsidian jewel]

I wish in the future in the exchange we can start using dimensional stones

[floral latch]

If you already have them done why are you still getting stones

[vestal sparrow]

I remember nakoruru before I quit even then she was mid

[obsidian jewel]

When you have overflow of resources the best place to use your resources on is dimensional stones just in case I get sick or something and not able to get a dimensional from an exchange and I might have to Garrison one in the future

[floral latch]

You ain't getting sick for 2 months tho

At that point you're basically dead

[obsidian jewel]

She can work real good with Rem

[granite cedar]

I should garrison Emilia right now tbh

[torn steppe]

I hate my campain stage

[obsidian jewel]

Because samurai girl and samurai dude knocks people back it helps Rem with her abilities

[torn steppe]

[granite cedar]

Using Albedo tilted me she was useless without all the investment stuff

[vestal sparrow]

Imagine not being at chapter 63

[torn steppe]

Narokos worm never dies

[torn steppe]

All cz that bich nadia

[floral latch]

I will build up all the dimensionals to e60 anyway

[vestal sparrow]

Nadia too op

[floral latch]

I'm still hoping for dimensionals tower

[granite cedar]

Does the Liberta + CC infinite not work at that level?

[torn steppe]

More loke campain defecite

[torn steppe]

Powercap

[obsidian jewel]

Have you tried AA

[granite cedar]

Ah kk

[torn steppe]

[floral latch]

That naroko must be a pain to deal with

[torn steppe]

Her worm is immortal

[floral latch]

Yeah i figured

[tranquil atlas]

Ayo wack

[floral latch]

No worries the moment they adding up another chapter you gonna beat the worm

[torn steppe]

They just added 63

[obsidian jewel]

Yeah but if you could get somebody to beat up Narokos where she can't call her worm then you should be able to beat the stage

[safe panther]

Lilith should add unique bosses to end of each chapter.

[floral latch]

I know, just a bit more patience

[obsidian jewel]

I had the same problem and I know what you're going to say she's not the same way in Misty valley as she is in the deficit you are in and campaign but still it's the same concept

[torn steppe]

🫠

Worm never dies

[quick latch]

like a G

[torn steppe]

Hi son

[safe panther]

Nice!

[torn steppe]

Yes

[safe panther]

Working on ascending Atheus.

[quick latch]

[granite cedar]

Im spending 100 this Friday. Im thinking the 50 dollar VIP star + time cards. + the 50 dollar celestilhypo event offer

What yall think?

[obsidian jewel]

@torn steppe what is your Prince of Persia look like

[torn steppe]

Malnourished

[obsidian jewel]

@torn steppe have you used all your mercenaries

[torn steppe]

Wym?

[obsidian jewel]

I was wondering if you want to mercenary mine

[tranquil atlas]

Dude gonna run up to the enemy , reset and die

[torn steppe]

^^^

[granite cedar]

I know you said power cap but if you change Ivan for liberta and spam auto battles it won’t work?

[obsidian jewel]

Granted yours is stronger that's just because you got more levels on mine

[granite cedar]

Oh wait Ashem prevents the infinite nevermind

[obsidian jewel]

@torn steppe so have you used all your mercenaries

[tranquil atlas]

Yeah liberta does give 250 energy

To the enemy for a kill

[floral latch]

You think that she needs mercenaries?

[tranquil atlas]

Yes

Yes I do

[obsidian jewel]

Yes it wouldn't hurt

[floral latch]

Look at her account man

[tranquil atlas]

I’m looking and they are infact using a merc

[floral latch]

Shh

[obsidian jewel]

I'm looking

[tranquil atlas]

I’m looking

Fact pcap@mean sht no bueno in cmbr

[floral latch]

She ain't killing that worm anyway

At least not for now

[tranquil atlas]

Isn’t that hard to kill

[floral latch]

That's the main reason she's losing

She can't kill it

[tranquil atlas]

Yeah

Isn’t that hard to kill

[obsidian jewel]

True but like I said you don't need to kill the worm you need to make Narokos where she can't call her worm

If the worms not there it doesn't need to die

[floral latch]

You can't do that

[obsidian jewel]

Yes you can

[floral latch]

While also having a pcap

[obsidian jewel]

You have to do that in Misty valley when you go up against her

[floral latch]

.

[obsidian jewel]

And for me Prince of Persia does that

Or I should say at least mine on my main account does my Prince of Persia on some of my other accounts don't

[floral latch]

You can't compare yours to the one she's facing

[tranquil atlas]

Def can

Everything is the same indeed

[floral latch]

He's sub 600

[tranquil atlas]

In every facet yep yep

[obsidian jewel]

Right now they can't get past the stage doing it the way they are trying to do it what would hurt mercenary my Prince of Persia to see if that would work

[torn steppe]

[torn steppe]

When you have 1000 rc yeah

[slate sail]

@cunning wigeon are you ready to make some SI50s?

[keen blaze]

@spare wolf sorry to bother you, here's my best pull with shemira so far. Is Lucilla good enough or should i keep goin ?

[torn steppe]

Id take it

[spare wolf]

yeah its fine. u can keep rolling for shem and daemia or liberta, but that ones fine if youre tired of rolling

[torn steppe]

Tarmus is nice too

[keen blaze]

i'll keep it up for ten more minutes then, looking for those 3. thx guys !

[idle walrus]

can’t wait for the day 100sig100f,100en in all

[slate sail]

Pet garage when?

[idle walrus]

100100100

[slate sail]

[idle walrus]

let’s roll it now

[slate sail]

Auto bots roll out

[safe panther]

I can't wait to +50 my lizard husbands.

Saurus and Alaro.

[digital idol]

Helloooo 🙂

New player here

[torn steppe]

Hi new player

[safe panther]

Hello!

[digital idol]

May be too bold to ask, but I’m quite lost in the game even after watching YouTube guides 😅. I’m trying to start “in the right way” but rlly don’t know how

I’ve got this so far

[copper sail]

you got a pretty nice first set of heroes there, there’s plenty of faqs around to read tho

[digital idol]

Oh I’ll check them up, I’ve saw them in tier list but I’ve got many doubts

[torn steppe]

Youtube guides are usually plain shiii

[torn steppe]

No mistakes thos good so fa

[copper sail]

the hero priority guide we got is pretty updated it just doesn’t have atheus which i think is gonna be really good to have early

[tardy root]

yeah pinned wishlist missing atreus and shemira

[vestal sparrow]

The new si changes we are screwed

[tardy root]

still better than it was before

im not ch 38 yet so ig i cant do si40

[vestal sparrow]

Yeah they have released two game changing mechanics in just a few months kinda crazy

[misty badge]

After swolise and Awbelinda who do I make next?

[light sierra]

swolise in 2024?

shemira probably

[meager cloak]

i heard asaf isnt bad at low copies

[kind vessel]

Low copies is a meme

[hollow nova]

[earnest pond]

I use her in r46 TS , at one copy.

[hollow nova]

Wtf

[slate sail]

Wtf indeed

[hollow nova]

[rancid garnet]

Am late, but wtf, si 50????

Any other changes in that patch?

By Dura, I've not even done furn n cores for max, and they wanna drop another one

[hollow nova]

New hero

[rancid garnet]

Roll for celepog

[hollow nova]

New Rift

[rancid garnet]

:deadinside

Well, si 50 better than the dislyte PR treatment

Unless we want that instead

[floral latch]

Improvement for bounty quests

[safe panther]

I guess we wait and see until tomorrow to see a list of +40 signature item skill.

I think the crown on signature item icon will be moved from 36 furniture to +40 signature item.

[tardy root]

just make a bigger crown

[meager cloak]

just give the crown some glitter or something we'll all go for it anyways

[kind vessel]

There's already an unused SI icon that people found in files

Been there for years

[halcyon ginkgo]

Which are top 10 Tanks right now?

[ivory violet]

Lucilla better than liberta imo if you disagree let me know because I wanna know who to build first

[kind vessel]

Luci isn't that important

[copper sail]

just get bert

[ivory violet]

liberta first it is then

thanks

[rain bay]

Sigh new 50si is gonna ba annoying depending on how expensive it is for 30-40 and 40-50

I'm debating sticking with having fully maxed thesku still and going him 50 first lol

[copper sail]

ey we’re gonna get a 40 for free so you can’t feel too bad about using it weird

[halcyon ginkgo]

Which are top 10 Tanks right now?

[rain bay]

Are we ? I need to know the reduction on cost for 30-40

[west maple]

Hi, @amber lichen!

If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help

[safe panther]

I guess tomorrow, we wait for more info.

Like, how much emblems for +40 and +50.

[torn steppe]

Lucilla support she wont do much without a proper carry that can make use of her skills

Lucilla is useless in pve without liberta

She would only be useful in nc

Ik alot of people who regreted building her first

@rain bay halo

[torn steppe]

Si 50 gonnabe like current 40 most just gonna stop at 40 for the skill up

[granite cedar]

Hmmm is anybody else not getting there day 2 honorable offerings?

Weird. Just let me collect it now haha

[viscid vale]

Restart game

[wet hedge]

What made you think lucilla was better than Bert?

[ivory violet]

lore

[wet hedge]

I mean if you want to look at lore, then there's probably not much advice we can give you since it's such a subjective matter

[tardy root]

So 5 damage?

Jk but 500% of what lmao

well apparently it was enough dmg to convince me to put ivan

[glad sand]

Gotta be more specific than that

There's only about 6 different game modes

[meager cloak]

• bosses
• multi-unit bosses
• TS
• AOH
• campaign
• multi team campaign
• martial rating events
• AbEx
• KT/6F

probably more and all have diff metas for diff stages

so uhhh

[floral latch]

That sounds very optimistic

[wispy geyser]

Guild Hunt, CR, NC, TR, Isle of Gold, HF, KT, Campaign, TS, LCT, AoH, LC for starters

Rift, AE

TV

[glad sand]

[floral latch]

Most of those you use the same few teams with some variation

[glad sand]

Whats tv?

[wispy geyser]

treasure vanguard

[glad sand]

There's misty valley

[wispy geyser]

CR has like 6 different cycles all with different teams

TS has 4 modifiers

[floral latch]

What's so different

[wispy geyser]

the modifiers

[floral latch]

You usually just have the same few heroes with a bit of variations

[wispy geyser]

Brute u can't get buffed

or is that someone else

either way there's no buffs, less damage when not shielded, no ults

[glad sand]

I didn't know this "game" had that many different modes

[floral latch]

Yeah they should rename it

Probably active arena would be more fitting

[wispy geyser]

minigame arena

[glad sand]

I don't even do half of those

[floral latch]

If you actually care about all those modes you end up spending hours weekly inside the game

• the hours you spend talking about those modes

On discord

[glad sand]

Just seems so mind numbingly tedious

[floral latch]

It is when you care too much

[glad sand]

Almost like you have to make afk a full time job

[floral latch]

Not really

You're the one paying, I don't think you pay to work

[glad sand]

If you want to take it "seriously"

[glad sand]

You pay with both money and your life time

[floral latch]

Your life is meaningless most of the time regardless

That's an investment rather than a waste

You put time into something you enjoy

[glad sand]

I already have enough existential dread

[slate sail]

I gave up the game so that I can touch grass

[floral latch]

If you consider something as a waste might as well not do it

I personally don't put that much effort into it, doing dailies usually takes like 10 mins a day

20 mins during lab day

[glad sand]

I'm stuck in the sunken cost fallacy and regretfully keep putting money back into my issue

[floral latch]

That's on you

If you can't control yourself that's your own issue

[glad sand]

I'm fully aware

[floral latch]

You're not

If you have an issue but keep doing it then you're not aware

That's the definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result

[glad sand]

Or is it some form of addiction?

[floral latch]

Addiction is a myth

That weaklings invent

[wispy geyser]

u can be aware and keep doing it.....

[floral latch]

If you're aware then you don't need to do it anymore

[wispy geyser]

wrong

that's aware + taking action

[tranquil atlas]

Don’t lie , you still dont touch grass after

[glad sand]

I don't think you understand what you just said

[floral latch]

I do

Since I've been smoking for 10 years before quitting

[tranquil atlas]

Bro is writing from the how to be alpha male Discord

[floral latch]

That was just an excuse for being weak

"oh no, I'm addicted, I can't quit"

That was just excuses

[wispy geyser]

sheesh u were a professional money waster

[glad sand]

Being aware that you have a problem, whatever that may be, if the first step of getting over said addiction

[floral latch]

Let's not talk about the hookers

[wispy geyser]

[glad sand]

Off topic?

[wispy geyser]

cheaper than gold diggers at least

anyway Mehira

[glad sand]

Succubus

[slate sail]

You’re right. I hit heavy bags instead

[wispy geyser]

I wonder how long u could last with Mehira

life expentancy that is

[glad sand]

Not long

[wispy geyser]

a week or two perhaps?

[slate sail]

Man my head went straight to the gutter

[glad sand]

Wayyy less

[floral latch]

That's why you not touching that grass

[glad sand]

I have now libido and I'm decently skinny

[tranquil atlas]

Yeah I been lifting a lot of heavy block of sands

[slate sail]

I mean technically it’s covered by snow so I can’t touch the grass just yet

[tranquil atlas]

fking germa couldn’t lift a dumbbell

[glad sand]

I cant touch grass, there's 2 inches of ice packed snow on the ground

[floral latch]

Money can be heavy also if you pile up a bunch, good way to train

[slate sail]

Can’t tell if you’re joking or serious

[glad sand]

Very few can pack a large punching bag full of money

[tranquil atlas]

Thats for you to decide

[wanton niche]

I use a sock full of nickels.

[glad sand]

Use pennies, more condensable

[slate sail]

I am gonna say truth so that I can consider you one of us!

[glad sand]

I live in rual America and dropped out of college

[tranquil atlas]

Always was

[floral latch]

That's why you can't speak English, you're american

Makes sense

[glad sand]

I just type too fast

[floral latch]

I type faster than you

[wanton niche]

Nerd

[glad sand]

I don't pay attention to where I'm clicking

[slate sail]

We speak rebel English here in the states! None of this kings’ English nonsense! It’s not colour it’s color

[floral latch]

I think I'm the furthest away you can be from a nerd

[floral latch]

[glad sand]

Also, I didn't get to choose my spawn point

[floral latch]

That's cap

[wanton niche]

Agree to disagree

[floral latch]

I was born in africa first, then i spawned in Romania

Now I'm an African gypsy prince

[floral latch]

You gotta trust me on this one

[slate sail]

I thought you were my Nigerian prince who controlled oil fields. I keep on getting your emails

[glad sand]

I'm broke, I fell for hustlers University (not really)

[granite cedar]

Holy shit I didn’t realize how hard people struggle with temp rift. People with 1000x my resources have like half my floors

[wanton niche]

No they’re just lazy

[glad sand]

Ego much?

[wanton niche]

What he’s not saying is that he’s on floor 2

[glad sand]

Lol

[floral latch]

See, I ain't lying

[wanton niche]

Turbo nerd confirmed

[floral latch]

[glad sand]

Wonder if ulmus will be at all useful with his sig at 50

[floral latch]

You ain't making trash good that easily

[granite cedar]

I got a dm “what’s your teams for temp rift?” From my guild mates lmfao

[glad sand]

I don't believe that

[floral latch]

They must be real dumb then

Even i got to floor 216 at my first rift

[wanton niche]

It was a bot reminder

[wanton niche]

“In 15 min remind me what’s your teams for rift”

[floral latch]

That's why he cropped the convo

[granite cedar]

Goodnight

[floral latch]

Lmao

[glad sand]

He occasionally tanks

[wanton niche]

Gotta be

[granite cedar]

I’m not sharing our convo with you nerds

[floral latch]

You just did

[wanton niche]

Got em

[floral latch]

He's got them nice walker stats

[glad sand]

He's even got 36/9

[floral latch]

Yeah i figured

Watch them actually make him like grez after the furn

Just with the si

[floral latch]

Not a wilder lover indeed

[glad sand]

I sense sarcasm

[floral latch]

Are you building up only wilders?

[glad sand]

Yes and no

[floral latch]

That looks like a yes to me

Must be nice having all them heroes to link your dimensionals to

[glad sand]

It's ehh

[floral latch]

I'm on a path of building up all dimensionals

[floral latch]

Sexy

I wanna use yen someday

[glad sand]

Why?

[floral latch]

Wdym why

Cuz she hot ofc

[glad sand]

I'm in smooth brain mode atm, by yen I thought you meant jp currency

[glad sand]

Sometimes I wish I came up with the meta (game ruining) dim comp

But I don't wanna put that much time and effort into this game anymore

[floral latch]

I will make them all e60 regardless

I like them red stars

And you never know when they gonna decide to throw a dimensional tower at you

[glad sand]

I'll probably be gone by then

[floral latch]

They doing a lot of changes lately, you never know when they gonna bring the bomb

[exotic halo]

hi, i was thinking abt returning to the game but i heard a lot of bad things about recent updates, should i start playing this game again or wait for afk2 in march?

[tranquil atlas]

Both are different game

If you want to return to afk 1 , you def can

New thing aren’t always welcome with open hand but ppl learn to accept it or move on

[glad sand]

Why do they have to wait until March? That's my birthday month

[spare wolf]

pretty much the only similiar thing is that they are both considered "idle" and in the afk universe. but the gameplay is much different

[exotic halo]

does afk2 look like its gonna be good/popular

[glad sand]

I definitely won't get it, due to my lack of financial responsibility

Also Ulmus didn't die

[tranquil atlas]

Many game got popular from stupid thing

Palworld is a good example

[exotic halo]

does it look good

[tranquil atlas]

Thats for you to find out

[exotic halo]

i watched the vids

but im not sure

[old bluff]

It's alright, still not enough content for people in the current end game. They took away a manual option in the current "Twisted Realm" mode, and the guild v guild leaderboard* isn't bad as well atm

[spare wolf]

i mean its gonna be free to try, only you can decide that

[glad sand]

It's fun, free (with xbox game pass), has zero micro transactions and I'll leave it at that

Ohh and it isn't a Nintendo product

[tranquil atlas]

Never said it was bad , just said it got famous for a stupid reason.

[glad sand]

Ohh...

https://tenor.com/view/leaving-im-gone-going-gif-13660937

[rancid garnet]

when's the si50 BS coming out on test again

[tardy root]

Oh it's 50? lol

nice

si100 when

need my si69 walker

also i need a rowan merc

[wispy geyser]

a what?

why?

[tardy root]

cuz I dont wanna spend 300 red chest without trying him first. Last time I spent 300 red chest without testing first I regretted it

Learned my lesson

[tranquil atlas]

Aight

I’ll lend you one

[tardy root]

sweet, sec

[tardy root]

156381264

[tranquil atlas]

Assume u want it with a rowan collection?

[tardy root]

sure

actually, luminous might be nice

nice!

ty ❤️

rip

seems like i need liberta e30 at least or a replacement for tarnos still >.<

[glad sand]

That's a very strange comp

[tardy root]

oh?

[glad sand]

Why the normal Brutus?

[tardy root]

why not?

[glad sand]

He's not good...

[tardy root]

Uhhh not dying for 11s is pretty damn good in my book lol

[glad sand]

[tardy root]

It's not like I have many heroes

[glad sand]

What heroes do you have?

[tardy root]

sec

[tardy root]

not many, lol

[wispy geyser]

he's very nice in bert charm

ur out of touch

[glad sand]

Afk boomer moment

[tardy root]

Yeah he does good work

Tarnos is the useless one here and Bert doesn't kill enough

[glad sand]

Seeing their heroes I still don't understand the Brutus

[wispy geyser]

bert charm u want m30+ bert, mehira, another hypo, a tank and si30 rowan usually

rowan can be swapped with Lyca

brutus is a good tank, and cruke doubles as both the hypo and tank

so with cruke u can run lyca and rowan

[tardy root]

Team 3 losing still and team 4. I think maybe I can reduce team 5 invest tho to help team 3

[glad sand]

So something like this?

[tardy root]

Yeah I can't do that lol

[wispy geyser]

generally you'd have liberta, instead of abel but yes

[glad sand]

I dunno I'm outta touch

[tardy root]

But yeah brutus is my best tank atm

Well

Besides ashem ofc

[wispy geyser]

it's called bert charm sir

[glad sand]

I have a maxed Ulmus...

[tranquil atlas]

I have maxed kalene

[glad sand]

Ulmus is worse

[tranquil atlas]

Aight

[glad sand]

Arguably THE worst

[tardy root]

Man why enemy have grezhul and flora on same team lmao

[glad sand]

Triple flora

[tardy root]

AND Tasi

Yeah I'm stumped. XD

Ig I'll just have to use an actually good merc somehow

I do like the rowan si30 tho

[tacit nexus]

[tardy root]

It must be cause my ashem is only e60

and 1 star

time to gaze 12 more ashem copies

jk

[tranquil atlas]

Do it

[prime isle]

Who should I be looking for in the unlimited summons

Because I keep getting ones like this

[wispy geyser]

#classic-questions pins

[old bluff]

Who's ready for the gold wings xD

[tardy root]

lol

[serene atlas]

New colors

[old bluff]

The f36 adds the crown with the gem, just si 40 would be

[wispy geyser]

what does just 36f look like without the si?

are the wings smaller?

[old bluff]

Or do you want no si at all?

[wispy geyser]

nah just wanted to know the difference between si30 and si40, apparently not much (and it's hard to tell when u have 36f)

[old bluff]

Yeah, will probably be the file they use, as it's been sitting there for a long time

So I pushed it to live for afkit

[serene atlas]

[rancid garnet]

SI 50 be lilith's petition for more pocket money allowance

[young thunder]

Lucilla or lavatune, which one should i get next

[kind vessel]

Lava better than Luci but obvs wait until Malkrie releases on test in like an hr or 2

[young thunder]

Oh a new hero is coming out again >_>

[kind vessel]

Every 2wks yeah

[young thunder]

How am i supposed to exist as f2p lol

But thanks. Unless the new hero is really good ill aim for lavatune 👍🏻

[tardy root]

every 2 weeks? o.o

[little vessel]

wait the game's on maintenance?

[lament bluff]

It's for Test server

[wispy geyser]

yep

[lament bluff]

I expect new woke release in 2 weeks to add fuel to the fire

[wispy geyser]

how to fix stall?

[lament bluff]

409E60 Brutus

[viscid vale]

Bigger everything

Wutus

[wispy geyser]

u mean 5036e80?

[viscid vale]

Some people run lib luci now

[viscid vale]

5036100 Wutus

[wispy geyser]

sir this is r44

[lament bluff]

That's whale version

[viscid vale]

Buy it

[viscid vale]

I guess you can just try slot in random stall looking people in

[lament bluff]

Thoran back row I think

[viscid vale]

Would always be low wr with those investments and heroes anyway

[wispy geyser]

I just switched that before asking yeah