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Thanks rambn
Wish lilith woukd hurry up with lyca info 
Btw, that team dies faster than the charm
@barren ermine gib lyca data plez
Are they good?
Ok
Ok
I need to stop trying to even everyone out
I know it’s a bad habit
🐳
Hello i got a question
12 reso then 18 reso
How p2w is afk arena?
Baki whale
May possibly have an answer
Is it 7 or 8 pets for reso18
F2P game
Not that much
i see

Only pvp is p2w
are the events whaleable?
Lets see im almost vip 16 and thats around 2k usd

20k
Oh ok boutta say
36 is max
oh

You can play f2p and have fun, but if you wanna compete you’ll have to spend 50k+
how often do they pop out new servers?
Even better, it's an afk game
it might be but seems like there's a lot of game modes
It can be pretty casual
There’s enough to keep you occupied
No energy system so is very good game
Only thing that isn't really casual is the pvp leaderboards
Are there stuff to buy to get everything?
some idles have that payment system
and i dislike it
Not everything, but a good chunk of goodies
Honestly I’m not sure what you mean but you’re gonna get hooked
so u can buy the necessary "currency" to get the goodies?
Trust me
Better stuff requires you to progress further into the game to be able to buy them
If you buy
Why
yw bro ilysm
Big mood right there man

is zolrath still usable?
Yes
Yep
If used for mehira teams, he's usually one of, if not, the dps
eeehff..
Which two heroes should I for us on for hypo and celes
As by this team
Yes, and I am crying over not beating that team myself XD
Should i get palmer 1* or do stargaze?
i'd beat it by myself in a street fight
tell brutus and his crib pull up
do heroes get hurt in this game btw
Palmer 1
they always look fine
It's better to show your celestial and hypo boxes for gazing matters, as that's what you'll be pulling
And which one?
The white and purple factions
Celestial and hypogean
@languid folio are you able to progress in campaign without using Charm comp
Does anyone know who Bok is?
@low summit I'd gaze 2 twins, than work on haelus imo
failure ex cs
Why haelus?
basically he's no longer a community supporter
ignore the failure part
yeah he used to
he's retired as he says now
are his guides still relevant?
He is useful in campaign stages, tower, and tr,cr, and nc
but from my experience
no guide lasts long
cuz of changes of the game
things change and so are guides
And the new units that come out every couple months that break the game....ira
which guides are you referring to? if theyre any older than about a month or two they most likely aren’t relevant
Or if you wanna go a little more "old school", you could get twins to mythic than go for mortas instead of haelus
Or get all 3 to e+, and pick one to get to mythic/ascended, than go for the others
Off to bed now
Don’t do Haelus
He'd need him eventually, or would vei be better before haelus
I see him in campaign more while I almost never see vei
Campaign is kinda irrelevant though + he can likely be subbed
Depends on his focus ig
I can say for one thing, he'll at least want e+ twins
Why E+
Or even just elite
Icr, but every time I always asked about gazing back when I really needed guidance with it, I was always told to go for e+ at first if I can, or straight to mythic
probably to use in AE but eh
can just build twins from NC store now anyw
How many years will that take
I feel like it'd be faster to gaze 2 copies and forget them for a while than to go for nc
Anyhow, I'm off to bed to sleep and get this multifight done
Is afk arena the best idle so far?
what’s afk arena
never heard of it
it's a niche card game I believe
the cast consists of preteen children for the most part and some young adults
hmm interesting

caught in 4K
Why twins?
is vurk any good?
na fk stargaze tot where its
i hate kill 2 backline heroes first condition
=suggestion
guys where do i get more of these rn
What should be my main 5?
daimon n baden
these r the only ones and the rest u can ghoose urself
guys which character should you stargaze for ??
im chapter 33
i kinda struggle
these r my characters and liberta is mythic now
do i continue w liberta or
someone else
lucretia is e+
pls
someone


ayo y u always rude.
I am just honest
You need hcp not stargaze 💀
Hero select pulls
I recommend finishing you 4f heroes before using dias in the gazer
But you already started liberta
I wouldv started with daimia then alna first
3 days in to the game.
Stuck on 11-38
Do I just wait for dailies to continue leveling for now if I’m F2P

Ye
Stop making legendary heroes
If you can't take to leg+ instantly
Sent
I read that after somewhere and it was too late - I don't think i am too dead in the water with it though and can recover
thank you for reiterating that
Ivan seal is so fun 
Tasi eluard disabled
can someone help me on 380 lb tower
Hi, @violet saffron!
If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help
@main tree soooo technically if u keep playing the wrong way. eventually it wont matter right?
cuz theres only so many mistakes you can make until you have at least something decent built
big brain strat?

Is there an in-depth guide such as bokkys in this present times
who do I e30 first between Skriath, Antandra, Raine and Twins?
It won't matter because you'll be permanently screwed 
Anyone know how often new servers drop
Depends on how fast they got filled, 1 week or 3 days
why is this?
So you don't waste fodder heroes you'll progrss faster if you focus your fodder on your main team/teams
wait misty
Wait froggy
does daemia needs 9/9 furniture
ops? any suggestions as well
She mostly just wants si30e30
ok
Restart account 😂💀

You built all the bad units lol
it would be better to restart
oops
Youf progress better and faster if you restarted and built the actual good unitd and used a better wishlist
well ion rlly know anything so
You should live in #classic-questions #faq-resources for a while lol
hhh
i'm only allowed to attack 5 ppl lol
I just had some wild ass conversation on the game, not sure if I wanna post the screenshot
post
Warn you, it's quite stupid
no probs
Basically for context this dude post a screenshot of his Kaz outdamging everyone, and I and many other response things he don't like to hear
On the community tab
It's wild
report him 
Yeah I already did
dude is struggling so bad with mental health lol
He was so triggered lmao
dude cant take a single strip of negativity
he;s like a professional loser lmao
yoo nge or jojo or jujutsu kaisen or sao or d&d collab coming up?
No more anime please 🙏
mario collab
nah nintendo gonna sue the hell out of afk arena even after making a contract
nintendo would ask for a bllion dollars to have mario allowed here lmao
luigi is broken at 30944
lmao ikr
coca colacollab, vending machine titus skin
@last valve can’t help u with ur merc request can I grab ur liberta tho haha
For Credit
Never
it is a very solid upgrade
just that the hero tied to it isn't


Rem
Is this a troll account 💀
Thx
Not gonna happen
i wonder if si30 mulan is really worth it
i got si30 for her because 5* 20960 just didn't feel right and it also fucked my trials
Very worth 
i would like to hear the opinion of a meta slave not a disney enjoyer
Tbh, Mulan isn't based on the Disney one, but the Chinese legend 
Her 30si make her immune to control effects, I think that's worth it 
Yes and no
No they keep realeasinh new heroes and you'll never keep up
Making so many mistakes just makes it harder to catch up which is usually the better option to reroll, but if you straight up focus correctly consistently you'll catch back up
is it worth using 4 spices to get seal to 9
Id save spices till you can use to reso
Reso trick something instantly to lvl 12
I need 6 more copys then i have reso 12
My last 2 beasts have been Owl, missing the stupid 2/3 for Seal 
Reso 12?
Already got reso 12 yeah
nice work whales
I should be using gems for new units early game or do I save for endgame? Also what are good ways to farm scrolls
I hit reso 12 just before fox ship ended and I'm just short of seal 18 now
@summer sluice excuse you
Lf for goth gf
Heh, nice.
Hey could someone help me out creating 7 team comps for the esperia based on the heroes I have?
Hi, @echo lichen!
If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help
What are gems for other than summoning
Idk if I should spend them all on summons or wait for end game
I made it to Legends, so, only 2 attacks dont worry

Wanna help me build my 7 teams?
Thats what im using
I havent really built or optimized teams yet
urgh, why HoE 
I thought i would get ascended ivan today from MV reset but then i realized I'm a big fat idiot
You don't get rewards until next week
this HOE is a really weird one
it's anti burst
lucius meta
stalling meta
also dps pet meta because pet dps isn't affected by the debuff
and isles again 
Oh damn, I don't have a good amount of those, aheroes, only thane, sol and brutus
Probably arent gonna get into legends then without Awakened heroes and new Celepogs so you wont need to worry about 7 teams

Is there a limit to how many ice hammers you can buy 
Ya 2 per deal
2 per layer?
What's a deal 
Don't you buy ice hammers with 10k dia
Hammers are the ones where you choose the tile
I always gotten legends hahaha, just first time I have so much choice I don't know what to do 😂
that prices
Isn't that just standard usd price
5 dollars for 2 draw 
It's not like it's 2 reg scrolls 
Yeah i feel if youre spending money on a mobile game than you can spend 5$ for something stupid lol
and I bought both deals 
I bought 1 hammer and it disappeared @kind vessel
What does the 10K hammer do?
oh
Hmm thats probably not worth
Not worth it at all
Chance for 1 time emblem for 10K
You get to pick the block
I might just take it
So you’d get 1 TE for 10K but still isnt worth it
that bundle reset next day ?

i must have wasted 10k diamonds
cause i did one for free
but what a scam
cause like the best you can get is 4 TE
Are you also getting the hammer and scroll confused 
did we get one free bonk or something
ohhh
@main tree can I steal ur Baden plz
You can pick one block in one spot one time
The ice block event is not worth it unless you can full clear an island
It’s kraken event
Small 100+$ light work 
Hi


Frosty treasures is just not worth if small spender
It just ain't worth it unless you giga kraken who gonna max out the board tbh
@peak ledge whale
sounds like a job for dragon
when alyca leaks ? 
probably when her bladder is full
that's some disgusting but accurate answer 
Looking for a Dismal labyrinth team anyone looking too?
jona
Joan
optimal
read pins in #classic-questions .
Bert op?
always has been

So close yet so far
young server
Smol server
Dead server
Do we they announce when new servers come up
No
HUGE I got one for 112 earlier
Breh
Who cares about trophies
I beat eviljudo
LOL
Look him up lol
Good job wat team beat him?
He ok
So many shiny stars 
I prefer red 
Is everyone ready for Misty today?

Attacked a guy for 4 trophies 😂💀


does it really matter what server i play on ?
Can you please explain :)
Game have regional competition. Region are group of server. U want to join new server so u fight other new player. If u join old server u stuck fighting old player. Old player way stronger so u can't win ever
@main tree help pretty pls.
i just dont know when
with making 5 teams for hoe arena

any of the newer servers are fine, you just dont want to join server 1 for example
i want to thank you from my mom, my dad, my grandfather and my ancestors for making them proud about me by succeeding with your asaf in cr
i am also proud of you famaz

any suggestions on what I should purchase? Awakened solise or dimensional hero?
None of those
How did you do that gold
This is not worth right?
Yes 10k dias for a card is worth 💀
Thought it was 5
do you have a better suggestion?
Nah just once
Advancement rewards, Deluxe Monthly Card, event deals are usually good too
I believe there’s spending guide in #classic-questions @tiny shadow
So it’s not bingo?
Kraken event not worth at all
So 10k for 5 cards no?
Fak 😂
i uhhh put lucilla in front of kaz so kaz doesnt die

also its bugged too.
lul
and put nara in front on ulmus so hendrik goes to ulmus. and the top side can kill the back 2 units

just gotta use a bad unit to not 1 shot kaz i think

but there was another formation for someone else just nuking with abel. so that might work too

@torn steppe oh it get to battle history now....

but thats a diff team i just did now.
old one wont load ig cuz i did the third mission first then the second one.

Ainz worked 

Ainz op op

me
anybody know when rem is being added to the garrison?
it's crazy how much cheaper hcp is than stargazing
makes me not want to stargaze for daimon


is saurus at elite good for CR?


If you have a 5* ascended woke, you can stargaze and trade for 1500 diamonds per TG
Therefore 10k diamonds for 5 tg is super not worth
Whats worth 10k dias other then the slim change of the best reward and the 15 tot cards
congarts

🥳
wtf i need 80 t2 gears for t2 reso
you got t1 already?
sadness. i still need 5 more i think.

just now
at least i finally got daemia 3f c:
tf i’m only at 35
I need Mulan furn though, not daemia
saaaaame
Daemia isn't even ascended yet to use it
i can si30 mulan and rem by the end of this event i think.
and I don't have any more diamonds after getting Lucilla to M+ for ship
and still have some left over to start uhhhh idfk what.
not ascended? thats a crime!

I'm not a whale and was in the middle of doing Daemia
had to switch over from Daemia to do lucilla for ship
Ship
ohhhhh
growth missions
only whales do that. so u whale confirmed.

oof 40 days left... surely i can get liberta animated avatar as well...

my niru army op fr!

now to retire them all and gamble with purple stones

can this game not be weird for once!!!

i want to steal some niru from you
cant ascend mine
nooooo, mine!
ok only one more piece and 1t3 1t4 stone.

surely that one pieces wont be next in shop when i have 0 coins

sad gb weapon
tbh fixing gear is a pain....
Pcap in kings tower forced me to use only my highest cmbr heroes so my team looks like random bs
pro!
i should probably push kt too
but thats effort.
and ill have to stop auto battle to swap teams every time its flora so ill rather not

Guys i got daimon to ascended what should i replace it with in the wish list
Oku or Gorvo for t3 gear
almost there but I have no more diamonds
thane carry time!!
neither 
morrow op!
Can you just tell me i cant find it in the faq 🙃
its the hero ascension prio
But i was talking about the wish list
and the point of the wishlist is...
Oh ok
First lv12 pet
whooo 3 lv 18 pets!!!!
nice!
Nice
so weird not seeing talis
tempted to HCP Naroko star for the poe
no, definately hcp
ss
HCP 
my Pets are sadge; I've almost been pulling nothing but spooder since it's release
its been hcp for almost 5 years now, its not changing

Trying to justify his genshin slang over here

Idk what is it
Hello. I have been playing for almost 2 weeks and I need a friend a high overall combat rating
@main tree very op add em

One of the few thing urban suggest when i type selected summon
huh?
unless they added something new.... i dont recall there being anything related to select summons

flaw, you're confusing the masses

The guy with the genshin pfp is subverting the confusion by confusing the confusion
If you are looking for friends to get mercs, try and leave a comment there in #mercenary as that will likely be more successful to you 
And hope you're having fun with the game!
my headcannon is different
I'll go back to this football game. lsu is going to lose and its great
@cunning wigeon where patch notes
talismane isn't female
thank you. I will do that

afk arena patch note
notes, not note 


nah, notes means plural, not possesive
can someone drop patch notes in the chat

I'm a former teacher 
14dyhyth10
my single white medal
never to be gotten again
Former...?
What did you do 
yup, got the hell out of dodge
Ah
I guess we might be in the same boat
@cold halo is kimchi still playing the game or did he quit
I might consider teaching med students
The more i see med students, the less i trust future doctors
I got tired of getting yelled at and assualted, personally
Ello

Wtf 1st in ts

ghibly is alive and well again. retirement was a lie
He realise the sunk cost and kept playing
yeah same
So what's the current soren/wrizz comps? Havent played for a year and a half lol
Looking for guild :3.
kill 2 backline first makes me resort to weird things
5-pull usually does it

66 fodder heroes I can retire.
😲
Congrats
Just about long overdue. Thanks!
She just needs 9F and she will be done.
I think her engravings are low priority. She's already got great survivability.
Alna e33 for haste, but pretty low priority
me doing it for powe cap
can someone ping me if patch notes are out revealing new awakened 
mmm, new consensus is Wednesday
I found a better way of using dupes is i make rare heroes legend by ofcourse making them e+ then using 2 dupes that you cant retire and make the rare hero L and you acctually het more from retiring the L
Pretty much always is
But the preview shoulda been released today of lyca as usual as well...so im confused
Sunday the start of the 5 day preview then thursday morning release
finally got it to work
Unless it starts tommorrow on test
Realistically speaking, how far can daimon carry me in campaign? And can he still be relevant late game?
I intend to fully invest in 5 characters for each factions only
the votes seemed very close between lyca and lorsan on the poll
Im currently at chapter 29 where daimon hard carried me
i think he falls off ch 31 or 32
Will see any use for him beyond campaign?
My GB team is silas ferael thoran gerzhul and him
It does say leader of the Wilders
And afaik lyca is the only leader
Lorsan....
ngl I like that second team
then there was no reason to run the poll
Idk what lorsans role is tbh
I mean the hero is coming out in 2 days
had to replace Mulan with WEzizh; somehow that fixed it XD
There's no way they haven't even decided which hero to awaken yet
how many free tg do we get
because Magezizh has best early stuff
enough for 1 copy


Its lyca its been lyca since thr beginning anyone else that thinks differently at this point is on crack
Ya when she has time i talk to her about lore
That's pretty cool
cool now I can run two Lyca's and two Swolis on multistages
tell her to drop lyca's abilities too
Anyone? I just need to know if i can go all in for this team

She cant do that lol
ik im kidding
She'll get rekt by lilith 
Lol right
Not even as simple as loss of job
Naw sunny is cool
Shell share some info if she can
And shell tell me if ahe cant say or soesnt know
It's pretty nice when it works
That's nice
Singles are also pretty nice
when Nc unlocked?
35 ascended
30*, or lvl 350
right, I only have 24 ascended
no ideaa
24 is close, you'll get there soon enough!
these rewards are op
You sort of get to both close tbh, I guess Lilith calculated that well 😄
3 days after getting 30 ascended, I reached lvl 350 here
Seems to be the case for most
I feel the A heores come faster than 350 RC
Bro that rewards is so big
Genuine question: do most people even try to kill all 6 bosses in NC anymore?
All my heroes but like 5 celesgens are A and my rc is 935
Seems like it is actually impossible without new awakened/celhypo heroes
It can be done
Every new boss they rotate in is specifically designed to only be killable by new heroes
Naw
Your also whel
You can kill them without awakened
True
If anyone has a clear wuthout either of the new cel/hypos that also does not use asaf or mae I am all ears
Luci Bert needed for clown I have t seen a
clear W/O 
Not sure that is true anymore. It used to be
But every single boss in the current NC is harder than any of the bosses in the first NC rotation we had.
I haven’t seen a clear without bert+luci for r6 but other rounds are clearable without awks
Just shit times
R6 is the problem

Yeah this r6 is annoying
Game fucked me because I completed r6 when I still had both trials active and then Lilith, in their infinite wisdom, wiped all clears because of the ira bug.
I did not even use ira bug on this account but clears still got wiped

Yup

I though they only reset clears with ira
They only kept clears after a certain point in that day
Makes sense
Ah yeah
I did a hit before ira bug popped off
Because I needed to use my trials before they expired
But now I don't have them so r6 is basically impossible 
U can beat with Low tier Bert and Merc Luci if you have big tree
Isn’t it the other way around
I saw a lot of E luci and merc bert I think
My OG account is basically dead at this point anyway 
Noouu
My tree is fine I guess. Not massive. Lowest branch is 107.
I think it's easier bc 9f Luci has heal block
i’m only at 22 A heroes and 339 rc
Maybe it just need a little boost 🐳
Ah i see
But no bert mercs are available in my fl anyway
I have one if you ever need 
stfu draken

I may just take the L

After spending so long trying to optimize CR and NC on my main I don't have the energy to do the same on arkhalis
My main acc, with nearly every awakened, now gets worse scores on wll modes than arkhalis did 6 months ago.
@peak ledge push my campaign 
re hit NC then push my campaign? 
Has anyone else been dropping hard in both Cr and NC since bert/lucilla release?
I used trial both rotations, I am very scared for next week 
NC will be the worst by far
Cause no bert/luci is 5 kills
Cr let’s hope they aren’t in too many rounds
Bert was in this cr r6
CR/NC and TR lol
Yeah 2/6 for now 
@peak ledge ok I change my mind still got that bert merc?

This shit pissing me off
I think so lol toss me the id
He is not e60 yet but worked for someone last week
@peak ledge if I'm to spend, what is best value for roughly 50$ right now
Oh wait I am an idiot
I mixed them up
I have bert ascended si 30 it is lucilla I have 0 copies of

I have both
Oh so you have bert at least sir
Luci smaller tho..
dragon whale
My CR is about the same but NC is fked because of Puppet
When you get him fully built your score should be roughly the same as before
what would that be called
2 Nobel tg cards limited event pass and monthlies
there's probably a name for it
Well I requested. We shall see
If I can even beat r6 it should launch me to around 50%
I hope anyway
where tf is the limited event pass
that's like the 1 dollar offer in isle
isn't that 30 dollars or smth
ots 15 for 80 reds, 600 cores, 10 SG, 600 shards, 10 TG
is that really worth it lol
Always get these limited tg/wish box will prob becoming out soon ish
the event passes are always highest value?
is the Yuexi 30 TG bundle for 25$ not worth?
@peak ledge worked to kill the boss but barely. Still only 72%
This game is getting kinda rediculous ngl
Lilith not even trying to hide their exponential powercreep anymore
Glad it got a kill...
alr so like
15 on event pass
15 on delux monthly
5 on Monthly?
what is a tg limiter?
and bait nobel makes sense, I haven't used high level pets but even at just 6 they feel nuts
ah I see, where would I find it when it comes out
Nah making do with M luci. 1* eventually
Just in the first merchant tab I can @ you when it's out
This week was bad for me. Barely 12% CR on my main
sounds good, I would appreciate that a lot
M20 asaf but other than that the account has every awakwned at least A1309e60
I wish I could get 12% CR
Lol this was yesterday
Used to be possible for a fairly modest account
Does the RNG nature of this CR apply to higher brackets?
15% NC tho how tf u manage that?

Not even the account that hit 12% CR is getting 15% NC with the current boss
I'm r7 I'm new acc
Noice!
Baby regions have clown NC
But the difference in CR & NC is hilarious
Yes I use ira r6 
What is ur time in NC?
5.49.41

Oh yeah wish that was 15% for me
7mins here
4:25 is 26% for me

Yea it's free just like TS CR just hard bc global and I have smol investments
Gotta improve our splits draggy
Question, someone tried to tell me that ainz is worth the garrision mats but a single copy of shemira wasnt worth roughly 1/12th of the mats needed for ainz perma for guaranteed carry grit
I argued that ainz isnt worth the garrision period and that you'd just end up hurting your account longer term
I also argued that I could get to chapter 33 with no ainz, no daimon, no rem, all f2p within a month and a half
Im currently 32-16 with 10 days left, and I'm 100% confident I will reach 33-4 within those 10 days as my RC levels are sky rocketing with cramming and I am half way to raku's +30 due to the recent events
Should I stick it out to prove a point to those 3 people and spend after those 10 days, or should I spend now for the extra enjoyment and to be more competetive with my server
Yea don't garry ainz
Not worth
New dims gona come out and put him so far in the grave
I wasnt planning on it, just was curious if I should wait to spend to prove my point that I was right in everything I said
Then when rem is available he just in oblivion
Im using eorin as my carry, and have been from the start, daimon completely uneeded
and I have not garrisioned anything
It will eventually get harder
nah just move on and enjoy a bit imo
That is the plague of this game. When you get to a point you will never see any real progress and your account will take a straight nose dive.
Happens in every server when it gets saturated with whales.
thats what I want to do, becasue I truthfully dont care all that much what that person or the two others that agreed witht hem think, but at the same time, if I prove this point it could prove useful to the community to a degree, granted I doubt people would listen to it anyways
Talismane or flutterplume owl??
I'm up rn bc I'm spender and gonna be hard for low spender/,f2p to kill r6 now
it would take a lot for people to give up on daimon, I personally think he belongs in the second group of GBs now, and that eorin/naroko are better as carries (naroko has yet to be tested but I've been using eorin to keep top 25 of my server f2p)
talismane is useful with very little copies, psure owl becomes WAY better later
I was a spender too and stopped because it wasn't even helping much. Not worth it.
My main account (which originally was not mine and I have not spent much on at all) is vip15 and starting to struggle even.
I think we picked daimon because you'll be scrolling GB for awhile unless you grit swap to so and so units
well tbf if you arent pushing from the start of an account practically daily you'll fall behind quick
Have been for 4 years 
thats my point, with grit being a thing now I think its completely safe to pick and choose a non gb carry (also daimon was undoubtedly the best for a whiole)
6 free copies of shemira, just put her on WL early for 1/2 copies and/or lab a single copy and you're good to go with grit
guranateed carry obtained
I think someone needs to make a guide for grit swap and the scenarios
I'd do it if I could make good images, but regardless doesnt matter people wont listen to what I have to say because I dont have any rep whatsoever
so
I did the shem thing and gritted out like you did but I didn't want to explain the logic to #classic-questions because it's a headache with the amount of grit questions we get
but the two highest gain grits are 100% early carry + raku/ivan
people say 4f copy from lab isnt worth it, but I compltetly disagree if its ONE copy for gritting into your early carry, and if people are saying to garrision ainz it only empowers my arguement more
but I dont wanna larp a ton
the tldr is just
do I prove a point to possibly have guides optimized (if Im even listened to)
or do I spend now to have more fun and be more competetive








