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1350 but i play at around 1700
Went to chess school and didn't push my account at all lol

I don't think that's how it works 
This is cr nc ts
Is there any way we can use this for pins in questions
Yes fide rating is the real rating
Uh how sure are we that this guide is accurate
It uses a tier list system which I don't really like
Its accurate lol it can from a big cn guild
But like the ratings checks out
Which one? I know a few of them
Safsaf and daimia are s tier in all modes
Swolice is top tier in cr nc but has fallen off a lil in ts
See like asolise and abaden are both s tier in CR
Naroko is amazing in cr nc but the insane like safsaf and she's mid in ts
Not having asolise and not having abaden are night and day in CR score impact
ah jd you're here
I've not yet seen a guide do tier ranking in a way that's not super misleading
Whats misleading about this one?

ezio A TS?
Some popular errors are:
- Determining a random tier without describing what a certain tier means. It's like saying seal and lion are both S tier at campaign. What does that even mean?
- Prescribing a tier based off how often a hero is used. Just because a hero is used every CR round doesn't make them one of the best CR units in the game. Asolise is used a lot in CR, but has way lower marginal impact on CR score than something like Abaden or Abelinda.
Yes with rem team
Since he executes when enemie are 20% hp from daimia
as in enemy dae?
Those kinds of guides are very good for telling an older player or moderate spender what they need to have built to succeed in those modes
I understand that its in chinese any ways but if you give some context in tiers its actually an accurate representation
You own
Daemia with rem for pvp huh
But do not paint a very clear picture of the order, priority or skippability of the hero
Rem alna
Daimia ezio safsaf is a very meta team
Dai is a huge part
Still not sure whether to build her or libby first
I can read Chinese fine dw 
Wdym I used to do a lot of translating from tieba stuff here 
But if you add context to the tiering system wouldn't it be a good guide for mid to end game players
what's chess school like
Lots of smoothbrained people lol
Cz there's alot of beginners
somewhere i belong finally
I agree about the context because like
It's gonna be super complex to explain, and the actual content is gonna be hyper dynamic
They make match ups to determine where they start with your training
I got put into the intermidiate level
To the point that weekly updates would be needed to maintain a relatively accurate version of the guide
do they pair you with other noobs
At first yes
or straight up against magnus
At that point they can just look at the CR meta themselves lol
smooth brain
Also some heroes like talene
The teacher is like 2200 fide
Like what else do we use eorin for
She's S tier one cycle, the immediately D tier the next because Liberta release
She's a tier just cz she was used this cycle
Well ofc it's not just Liberta but you get the point
But she's amazing for stall in ts with seal thoran
Would you say she's S tier in TS?
And what does that even mean
Because you can for sure sub talene out
Chess is easy if you think before you play that's why if you're new just play 10+ mins matches and take your time
I'm really surprised Talene was used this week because this week was no stat buffs right? And the whole talene setup is about making her revive 4000 times to self buff
no
She's a tier
you see that problem semi often with people coming to the #classic-questions channel and they were following some guide or tier list made years ago 
Ye
or 5
But then maintaining guides is too much work
Yes cz her damage comws from her shield stacking its not considered a buff
Would be an internal guild thing
Yeah meta changes alot
i hate it when people think before moving their pieces
Which is why I prefer to just have people ask in questions so people more familiar with modern meta can just help them out
Id update it regularly tbh but theres always gonna be a debate about it
like
As opposed to doing a hero investment chart type guide
Like the faction based ones on reddit
Do you think its worth to do daemia M20 and then build libby
Chess is a brain game if you don't use your brain you neva gonna win
Those are just too static / linear in data presentation
I think she can work in pvp w si30 mythic
That's true until one guy pulls out a gun



doubt
my last game got 3 reds
@wet hedge i played like 4 games in a row at 1300 and all 4 botezzed their queens lol
didn't even think
Online?
Yes
I find blunders more common online too
Abd a 1580 plainly missed a simple mate in 1
It's something about the angle of a real chessboard that makes it easier for me to think through moves 
fr
Like you can focus better on 5he board
Like 1-2 move blunders are pretty rare past like 1200 in irl chess
On chess.com they persist to like 1800 lol
Nah they exists but are harder to spot
I beat boogaboo from push and he's 1800
4-2
@wet hedge what's your rating
2 move blunders are categorically super easy to spot
It's literally a blunder in two moves
Granted he played like bullet and i played like rapid
Fide I'm like 1200
Chess.com like 1440
Ooo you improved alot
?

You were 1100 last i played you

Haven't really played chess seriously since high school
i can barely reach 700 on cheese.com
I think improved a lot is more like you lol
Oh yiu mightv said you were 1100 fide
Haha yeah ive been watching chess vids till i fall asleep each night
Depending on which end of the interval
822 games and still 600
Then went to chess school for couple months
You're not really good at chess, you just trained your brain to become a chess database engine

And then by the time you are a piece up
I treat it as muscle memory from playing the same opening over and over
Just win
hi kevin
That's like a 1200 skill
Which is a large part of the reason why I kinda cba playing chess past 1200
It's like doing competitive spelling bees

I'd rather do something else with that time lol
Nah even slightest variants can change the game it's mostly patern recognition tbh
Now obviously the more lines you know the better you'd be at processing scenarios
But like the best way to mega boost your rating is just memorize lines
Just learn the variants
There's only like 20 common openings
And like 5 main variants of each
Learn how to not blunder the openings and how to punish opponent blunders
Rinse and repeat
Suddenly you start beating literally everyone that doesn't know the lines as well as you do
practice make perfect
@tranquil atlas hihi flawfy
hello
good for pfp

pfp is the only reason to build a hero
what's the most smooth brain friendly opening other than Italian and london

and caro
I'm stuck on a stage that's impossible, i even used mercs and it's impossible
Who should I t3 next
use a better merc or wait for higher rc
prob nevi
Hippopotamus defense
You can literally premove the entire opening 
If they are not like 1000 skill, their attacks on your defense will most likely result in tragic loss
Kinda op

Search it up
It's basically a beat noobs with minimal line knowledge
Since it's quite a rare opening, most people don't actually know how to attack you
So you can just memorize that one line and a few variants, and do quite decently
Most smooth brain friendly opening of all time 
Palmer for the crit
that's actually an opening stockfish struggles to counter in time pressure
Lol
Which twin do yall think is better
Im struggling to decide
But im going for hypogean cuz shes cooler
cele
the hypo is almost exclusively used to buff the cele at the moment
the cele is better on his own
iirc, +40% attack, and buffs libertas ult
Damn
celestial can dps and support, hypo supports
How much better is libertia tho
so cel is first choice
hypo is more a debuffer anyway
Cuz i wanna use hypogean cuz she looks cool
If shes significantly worse ill go cele
you need both eventually anyways
then build her if you want. but the cele is recommended first
not worse just she cant do dmg like he does
liberta and safsaf wow
Can u get both by free means or are they dimensionals
Iirc theyre cele and hypo
Why did i even ask
💀
you need to pull any copies other than the free one
Ok
Where do u buy it?
I forget
Ik u can get it free so im getting it free but idk where u get it for free
one of the sidebar events
War?
Yeah idk where that is
Cheers
same
zamn
oh my god i beat it
that stage i was on, not even mercing rem or anything helped it was impossible
People who went for the hypo are crying rn
72-9, does that stage include E80 enemies and a pet?
e100 and all pets
Zamn
Does that include awakened heroes
yeah and some newer/leaked heroes
Well that’s true
includes 2 kanes
better that 2000 RC whatever the limit is at rn
I think the limit is around 1300-1500 rc
It will be almost close to 2000 rc
But rn 49-60 is around 10rc levels before 1000
All my faction towers are 1k + level wise
Why?
She's basically almost a meh hero
Ik that
Even flaw said
But isn’t lucilla used in the newest Twisted Realm?
That her best use is for pfp lol
You can sub her still
Even elite works too
So Liberta is best? Is Liberta higher prio than Vei or not yet?
Im still working on Daemia
I think yeah he's prio
You can do her at mythic and start liberta
Oh mines already at Mythic+
I just started Vei

daemia will still be used for a long time
Rn I’m working on 4 heroes through abnormal means: ABaden, Daemia, Zaphrael, and Mortas
abnormal means?
6 through timegazing
sweet elder tree level 50
wow how'd u get so many time cards
and 1 hero away from my first dimensional key
Well you see, I get 10 through guild store another 10 through nightmare store and another 10 in 10 days through the regular store
And then you also have towers
nice
When's next awaken
Like 3 weeks
hopefully the new woke will be liberta tier
I already have 600 cards for the woke
I have all the wokes cz 
the next wokes's eirron?
Very likely yes
What does saurus even do in the lore
woke saurus would actually be cool
awakened tasi when
Him lyca or kaz are the candidates
Kaz I big doubt
he is very handsome
If fof wasn't a thing I don't think people would even remember Kaz is a hero
Lyca maybe
Eironn seems more logical though
Nah it was actually confirmed to be theese 3
They had a event for afk player in vn
Gift codes?
Oh
They teased the wilder to be and oldy
I'm kinda disappointed that asolise was the first wilder woke hero
we got ezizh
It's going to be Aw Arden
we should get tasi

She was for simps lol
Why
One of the og wilders
I do like how "old hero that old players are familiar with" applies to every AW that isn't Mae 
It can still be eiron I think
Its mostly gonna be lyca thos
And next gb would be kelthur
Nah
Well have to wait and see
Lyca was popular
Well still used obviously
But I don't think she'd fit as well as eironn

Kelthur I highly doubt
thought they didnt confirm it was wilder at the event right?
Who is it ?
idk
Tell us gabe 
no
GABE
even if i did know, the times i have literally said it people told me i was trolling
i really hope its seirus
its not
Old wilder
Ulmus
please ulmus or seirus
Its nemora kaz or lyca 
AwUlmus with little Dreaf minions 
i want it to be kaz now
Wtf
If you say every wilder's name in a single list, gabe will have to say yes
That was my plan 
gabe if you tell me what it is
You could have chosen to post the other ss, but you have to choose inseason


well yeah
i just said even if i knew. i dont know
leave me alone

i just know what it isnt
"an old friend that veteran players will be familiar with"
and its not eironn
Nemora was on realease i think with kaz and lyca
lyca awakened
omg thanks for the leak
I'm whaling zappy
very fair and righteous
Who will win Hypo or Cele?
Zappy will win
right now hypo is winning, but there are 6 days left
goodness! almost accidentally sold Joan of Arc partial card in my bag. butter fingers
I think hypo will win, sad no frame for me 🥺
i wonder what their backstory is lol
everyone gets frame
yes, both sides get the frame. I think the only difference is 1000 diamonds and whichever sticker you get
Ramb where
Ainz somehow still working
Also why was 46-60 so many times easier than 46-52 and 46-56?
Chapter 47 and 48 were mostly easy
Because of meta heroes like ABelinda and Rem
Without them, it may have a higher RNG
I struggled on Chapter 46 for a few comps
Back then Thoran comps were more common to use

meanwhile i'm stuck on 42
Ola amigo smoku 
Did not
Only was afk from the discord
fair
Yum
man luci and bert really are just awakened twins
like as in i think lilith internally had them planned to actually be awakened but decided nah tbh
☕🗿
Thoran useless ngl
5 pull, thoran cheese, mehira charm and belinda stunlock comps are common here in 51
How about 49 and 50
Do I seriously need Mulan 9/9 for rem comps
How’s her 3/9
Yeah 9F mulan is a must
Honestly Mulan is fun af
I'm halfway through 49 and it's been easy so far, other than battling pcap
You op
Mulan 
By the time you reach ch49 you've got all the stuff you need for campaign so it's just copy and go
(You reach this before 49)
Meanwhile me still gazing belinda
I didn't have her until ch48 so you're on pace 
Im having to substitute belinda with new cele atm here in 51 lol
Trial is almost over also i have 1 more day affer this
Wassup people
I got to Chapter 49 first before you so hehe
I still had to work with level 12 pets 🥲
What RC level are you at
Whale
625
Anyone know why my game is no longer in full screen?
I havent played in like a week or so
Are you playing on a Nokia flipphone?
I was going to ask how u can afford all of these in the same multi but it's tzuyu
That’s probably why @ivory tusk
Well even if you are joking, I’m playing on the iPhone 13
My game was fine the last time I had it installed
Should I try redownloading?
Restart your phone
Bet bet
Queen Tzuyu op
Wohoo 🙂
Hello, im starting a new account, I hope you guys can help me, cause im still very bad at the game ☺️
new player help stuck
Hi, @slender tapir!
If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help
Should i t4 palmer?
which ascended do u guys think has the best ult cutscene
rem
Yes
I cant progress anymore, I don't have daimon copies to ascend
@wanton niche 12k cores 
@south marsh where have you been hows the modeling career 

Well there went my chances of ever getting diamond in twisted realm again
wrong chat
nice
Who?
me, I meant to send it in different ch
Jesus. I’m at 3k but I got both new twins to e60

How much that cost?
About how many sg cards and or gems?
I don’t count
Took me 880 cards and 195k diamonds
Kraken
around 1200 sg
I really should start saving up stargazer cards after ascending lucilla and the other guy, since I already got most of the meta hypogeans and celestials. I'm now just majorly spending time cards these days.
I just googled so nvm
anyone else's trial hero of liberta just disappear today?
Timer probably ran out
It's easy to hoard.
Very easy to hoard
theres really mfs out there who dont refresh their bounties
Afraid
@wanton niche didn't they say its 2 free celepoges copies?
janky f2p setup for 5.3b threshold on the new boss
They never did
It was always just one
31-80 is 10,500 cores?
Its 4.5k and 6k so yeah

@sly gorge 
@indigo pasture did you quit
Love the tag 
@languid cedar primos or mine lol
You pinging primo
im his whale friend ofc i need to tag 😂

Yep. That’s my saving goal for next awakened.
Y'all can save cores 🥲


which hero is it
No one important
Whaaaaaa
Who dat
Actually ik who lol
Its twins
I thought I picked an obvious one lol
I see isee
Daima is new palmer
just got daimon to 3 furniture
But still can’t keep Abel up 
Liberta is new meta
Liberta
Should make my rem job higher wr it was alrdy 85%+
This is so evil
Btw @sly gorge kiria is my partner in crime 🤣🤣🤣
Hythlo your name is fucking ominous
Two krakens now?!
I did press the button
Zappyzap can stop reminding me now
Same
Bad bad things
Zappy villain arc?


60% says you can
I cant react
It’s all Zappy’s fault


this is elder abuse

Oh did discord update?
Hythlo didn't explain name
LMFAO
What the hell
Zappy authority of whaledom


@wet hedge
We can only dream

What’d Gabe do to you?

it happens
Honestly love the pfp
The death of dn 


The death of logic 
Misty exposing herself
Nah im always a open book lol
Hi guys, I'm back from a little game break. After all AFK is like a drug, I feel like a salmon right now.
Salmon is good
TIL you become salmon if you dont do drugs for a month
Casual life is pretty nice 
It seems to me that you are not playing casually. 
I wish you a pleasant sleep amen.
This is dumb. Walk in the park for Hypogeans this battle
Is this a good pull ?

Not really, no
Welcome back to hell 😅

Zikis is outdated, so you are better of pulling a piranha
( this server )
Y’all are gonna make me change my name again
why
@spare wolf why us your name a continuation of hythlos
Why not
idk, i thought it was like mad libs
im 71 years old
Happy birthday
👴
You want a dead zapzap?
Thats why i said i didn't like zappy name
Zappy, what is rift?
its the greatest game mode ever invented
The death of rift

Never heard of it 
what's not to love
What is rift? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more

That tier 3 one looks so good
R u getting it
Probably not 
Time to💳
Maybe tier 1
Idk how rest of rift gonna go
I think I'ma use Mae new heores and some BS for my 5th team
Wat r ur pet rc currently
Think so
Still 9 with 3 lvl12
Hey guys who is the better unit of the twins?
Liberta
Any leak of new awakened?
No
This user shall not be held responsible for any losses
Haha no worries
Same I just auto weekly and we good
Still can't break t100 tho 
hello awaken Shemira
probs wilder awaken?
yep
sir i am in your guild chat every day is that not enough
We abandoned him 
hes fine hes having floor time and six gave him snacks
the ac is on he is listening to his favorite tunes

(rift sound effects i guess)
why my lv30 skill is not active?
Not high enough hero level
Under the 3rd skill it says the conditions for the unlock of the e30
thanks i see it now
Man, this isn't even fair XD
all cele given up like me
but i want the purple sticker so i want to lose
purple sticker is for hypo
Unfortunately, I'm in the 450 celestial team #F
no, its for the losing team
so if cele loses they get the purple one
Make Mulan e60 from e41, or save for Liberta or Maetria (still M+)?

it's a wild west in here oml
trying to find subs for people

subs for boss comp, that is
yes, subs
tf are subs
not top highest meta comp
oh
so subsitute
...yes

sometimes we don't use full words
atalene

normal talene cloth support 

second most generic
aw talene seems to be the only intelligence tank
waiting for non-cloth mage
wdym w cloth
cloth is int sorry
oh im dumb lmao
athawia is the only non-int hero to do magic damage
i thought she was intelligence the whole time 
:O thats cooleh
havent read her skills yet
i want a non-intelligence sorcery class really bad tbh
i dont want more classes :,(
no i mean all the current sorcerys are intelligence
i want an agility one
or something
MAGE??
yes duras sorcery

talene has been out of meta for a while
no, she was cr meta till bert was added
she might still be there actually
talene just got kicked
i asked how good both talenes are before lubert came out

is atalene better in non ice stall?

ignored 
@wise fiberpescado
NO U
hypo chat best chat
lemme go send more monkeys
you would say that
Wrong
He’s right
no u 2

good morning
Gm
Best bounty board to exist (last one was gold aswell)
Gm krakens
You kraken too
I'm a Photocorynus Spiniceps 😏😏😏😎 (yes, Google it lol)
I dont need Google
morning
good evening

[asohfo;iqwah fvc;o iwAQHIO;VAQjvwposaq
Are you ok
nobodys ok

shut the hell up
is this an xbox game code
The c51 acct peach's?
No
I'm whales 's nightmare on this event



no albedo
?
@pliant summit whats your profioe picture? Theyre super pretty.

Frey Holland from Forspoken
Ooooh. Thank you!
the speed of that second blink tho
woo 9/9 red furniture on rem
Lyca done, Mishka done, Rowan done, and now Rem, Daimon and grezhul is next
btw i got Grezhul ascended
he's pretty neat
didn't even know he summons minions and stuff
ඞ ඞ ඞ ඞ
does anyone have a built oscar
lol. Oscar's a meme hero. even that gunslinger LB has his uses
:>
zappy has isabella built, anything can happen D:<
What hero should I go leaving up I am stuck in stage 8-12.what team comp should I use ?
Isabella used to be meta in CR, so that makes sense

Like, can we just skip and stop torturing those of us on Liberta
No longer even balanced 
Same
tru
no


Waiting patiently for more resauces
i wish building characters wasnt so dangerous
i wanna build so many characters that arent that great

i could always make a 4fun acc tho
I want alot of extra mats as a stash placeholder for the next mooler, so i can actually boost the remainder before moving on to meta

oscar is ahh
oh wow, its not like i just said it

hes bad
but i wanna build him bc cool character
and i like chars that throw knives its cooolh
I need 58.5k extra cores to e60 my moolers 
If HF is next, I'll just join pub again i guess
im tempted to use him as fodder tbh but idk
then use him
idk why u gotta tell me that
id use him too
but i only have 1

man, any mentor?
im gonna keep him for the collection
collection <3<3
How to unlock the new event
New player what lv/campaign must be cleared before unlocking events like war of truth?
Hello @sick reef,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

more bald codes
why do the codes not have hair
Awakened Solise is actually pretty decent
Ah gotcha
:,)
pfp checks out lmao
asolise is cool tho tooo
me w flora
flora is legit god
yall just hain
hatin
flora is my mortal enemy
i despise flora
with a deep, burning passion
she is devilspawn
Just have an umbrella and you will be fine in the flower shower
wait until you have to beat her in campaign


