classic-chat

[eternal bronze]

3 for 3

[ember thunder]

ok ok

[whole ravine]

I dont think so

[brazen sonnet]

Queen is also seeing usage in less weeks now

She is much more susceptible to power creep compared to albedo.

[eternal bronze]

I mean obviously you want both heros eventually

Sig 30 9 eveyone!

Ez strat

[ember thunder]

yoooo Anty in 1

MA GIRL

[brazen sonnet]

[ember thunder]

i know it's only 1 usage

but idc

she's in there

[brazen sonnet]

But when it comes to who to garrison first queen does not make much sense.

[ember thunder]

that's still my girl

[light harbor]

I don't recall arthur ever being used O.o

or gorvo

[whole ravine]

Gorvo is with the new LB

[brazen sonnet]

She won't help until later in the game when teams are set up for her. (Skriath 30 for example).

[mossy grove]

he is being used in some ainz comp

[whole ravine]

Arthur is with Ainz

[brazen sonnet]

With ainz on one of the rounds iirc.

The one that has no ults

[fair tapir]

I like turtles

[light harbor]

hmm

[glass star]

How do I even read this?

[light harbor]

will also be interesting to see how wide spread newlene is

[eternal bronze]

I'd say new flora more than newlene

[ember thunder]

6 -> used everytime
1 -> used in 1 cr

[fair tapir]

Anyone got info on new champanz

[brazen sonnet]

It just shows how many total bosses each hero is used on.

For ghe BiS comps anyway.

[light harbor]

wilder hero, no info on skills out yet

[fair tapir]

Oh nice

[light harbor]

also new pet

[fair tapir]

More tower stages to push

Oh nice

[light harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681553311182356514/1118472809690177596/20230614_111546.jpg

[fair tapir]

More rewards

[light harbor]

that is outline of wilder hero

[glad breach]

Maetria all 6?

[keen relic]

i swear i remember getting challenger form isle of gold like 2 years ago. unless they changed?

[glad breach]

OP

[fair tapir]

I wonder when will this game give justice to maulers

[light harbor]

yeah she has been quite relevant in bossing

[slender tapir]

whats green and red mean

[kind vessel]

Yeah Ainz Arthur was meta for that round before it changed to Palmer Rem

[ember thunder]

sadly

[light harbor]

afkarena 2 beta has a new mauler as like the strongest hero

[cloud void]

it takes so long to get one woke

[glad breach]

@light harbor GB awakened basically confirmed btw. Neva attached to Baeden therefore we know that Wilder Supports always preceded GB awakened releases.

[brazen sonnet]

Brutus 2.0

[brazen sonnet]

[whole ravine]

I dont think we were ever able to get chall coins from it

[brazen sonnet]

When afk1 launched brutus was the most OP hero

[kind vessel]

I thought Isle of Gold always had chal coins

[cloud void]

and then he got powercreeped

[glad breach]

The competition was like Numisu Vurk Lucius.

[light harbor]

brutus IS in afk2 though

even by afk1's standards, this mauler named smokey is actually pretty overtuned 🤣 I think he will stay relevant longer than you would think

unless they change him from beta to live

[glad breach]

Lucius used to be OP tho

Then they nerfed his shield

[light harbor]

they demoted lucius to a lower tier in afk2 🤣

he is the equivalent of a legendary tier hero now there

[glad breach]

[kind vessel]

Tidus was pretty crazy on release

[keen relic]

they shood give lucius shield a 40% damage mit

[light harbor]

yall really underrating smokey on afk2 O.o

[whole ravine]

[glad breach]

Ezizh/Brutus are the oldest relevant heroes these days.

[ember thunder]

nemora

kind of

[light harbor]

9f nemora is in some pve I guess

oh

wait

thoran

🤣

thoran is an ancient super relevant hero

so is grezhul

[kind vessel]

Grez wasn't even that good on release

[glad breach]

Grez buff tho

[light harbor]

correct, his 9f made him overtuned

[kind vessel]

Before rework and furn reg Baden was better

[light harbor]

what grezhul always had going for him was team wide MR boost

helped make shemira less spooky

[glad breach]

Thoran was garbage pre SI

[kind vessel]

Idk how many celepos even existed on release, release was a couple months before I started

[glad breach]

Zero

[kind vessel]

Oh

I would've guessed at least Atha and Ezizh

[ember thunder]

nope

they came later on

[eternal bronze]

0

[obsidian jewel]

Hi

[kind vessel]

[glad breach]

https://www.afk.global/1-15-01-patch-notes
Athalia patch

Ezizh was 1.16

[ember thunder]

not as good as the antandra and satrana patch

tbh

[kind vessel]

Tfw "added Ch22" and "added resonating crystal feature for over lvl240"

[wanton niche]

4 new heroes in one patch

[glad breach]

I forgot Baden got nerfed too

[wanton niche]

Bring back 4x heroes per patch

[glad breach]

Baden and Lucius

[wanton niche]

New awakened every 2 weeks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857329415330725906/1034158501192286238/991702010514636881.gif

[kind vessel]

Bring back 2 new factions in 1 patch

[glad breach]

Baden used to have no limit to his phantoms.

[kind vessel]

Oh is that why we used to use him for Soren

[glad breach]

Yes

[eternal bronze]

Honestly make baden have 1000 phantoms

Make baden great again

Imagine the cr damage if he had no limit

[glad breach]

Depends on if phones can handle him.

[eternal bronze]

gets 30 seconds in and dies

[obsidian jewel]

@eternal bronze do you know how the game makes heroes great again without buffing them

[glad breach]

[obsidian jewel]

They make a new hero that is OP work with the old hero making the old hero better

[wanton niche]

Not wrong

[obsidian jewel]

I agree some heroes are garbage by themselves but if you put them in the right team with the right hero you can make that hero shine

[eternal bronze]

I don't think baden or Lucius can be saved

[obsidian jewel]

Awoken Solise can make Baden & Wu Kong valuable

I don't mean those two will break records but they will make her even stronger

[sly gorge]

Hi my kraken friend

[ember thunder]

🤯

[eternal bronze]

I don't think that at all but I wish

[ionic gull]

new power creep systems like furniture

[sly gorge]

Awakened rem when

[spare wolf]

i really doubt they will ever awaken heroes they have license deals with

[ionic gull]

Rem is already awakened level what more do you want

We need awakened arthur

[kind vessel]

I can't even imagine AwArthur to begin with

[lone topaz]

Source? Trust me bro

[eternal bronze]

We need awakened shrek

Prove me wrong

[coral lynx]

Ok, I’m intrigued. How in the world do WuKong and non-awakened Baden possibly help ASolise? In any comp.

[spare wolf]

what is that

[eternal bronze]

It's supposed to be bald Shrek dancing

But it didn't load

[sly gorge]

Too squishy need rem to be unkillable

[obsidian jewel]

I'm trying to find it

[coral lynx]

Are you thinking of Nevanthi’s e60 helping summoners?

[obsidian jewel]

Yeah I think I am

[eternal bronze]

Even then baden just dies..

[kind vessel]

Only example I can think of for something trash becoming good is Stall + Seal for TS

[coral lynx]

Yes, even then they are not saved by her e60.

[ember thunder]

because the reason why wukong is bad isn't because he doesn't do damage, in fact he has the best dps in the game! he's bad because he dies

[obsidian jewel]

Maybe that's why I was thinking about also using ASolide to keep them alive longer

Also she summons as well

[eternal bronze]

Swolise doesn't keep anyone alive really unless she ults?

So by the time she ults baden already has died

[coral lynx]

I’m sorry, but unless you’re talking like chapter 10, wukong is not relevant even if you give him every investment and stack the team in his favor. He is a bottom 1% hero

[kind vessel]

I don't remember if Tarnos teams existed before AwSol

[coral lynx]

Or if you’re talking about Vampire Survivors mode 😄

[tepid epoch]

Time to do a quick google search

[coral lynx]

They were released back-to-back, so yeah probably not 😁

[kind vessel]

Oh so it was about the same time

He wouldn't have had any place for a whole 2 weeks

[tepid epoch]

Talene - December 21, Ezizh - February 22, Thane - April 22, Brutus - June 22, Solise - August 22, Baden - October 22, Belinda - January 23, Maetria - Marchv23, Athalia - May 23 something like that

[wanton niche]

Next awakened should be July 4th

[tepid epoch]

That’s America’s birthday

[wanton niche]

It’ll be Captain Freedom, bringing Christian American values to everyone

[obsidian jewel]

@wanton niche cool they will be released on my birthday on the test server

[wanton niche]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[sage cove]

[tepid epoch]

But how do we tell everyone that Lilith is a Chinese company

[void sequoia]

Todays my birthday

[obsidian jewel]

@void sequoia happy birthday

[void sequoia]

cheers bro

[wanton niche]

Just buy China and ezpz

[kind vessel]

American values are all about draining the money out of people below you and pretending to give them a chance. That's perfectly in-line for them

[void sequoia]

Anyone specific I should be using

[obsidian jewel]

No I'm sorry I'm wrong my birthday is going to be that Thursday after 4th of July

[ionic gull]

Is lv 310 vs lv 422 enough deficit for thoran cheese to work? Chapter 34

[slender tapir]

should be fine maybe

[kind vessel]

Thoran really wants a deficit of like 150 minimum and you'd much rather 200+
But idk how it is in really early chapters like mid 30s

[ionic gull]

2 of my comps are good but my 3rd team (LB with scarlet and belinda) can’t survive anymore

[obsidian jewel]

@wanton niche do you have any thoughts on who the next awoken hero might be I'm hoping it is Antandra and I hope she's a tank since they made ABrutus a warrior and regular Brutus was a tank

[ionic gull]

How do LB comps for campaign usually work

[spare wolf]

i hope its a durri

[kind vessel]

Generally campaign comps are based around a hero or concept rather than a faction

[slender tapir]

yeah im unfamiliar with any lb comps in campaign

but im only ch 39

[obsidian jewel]

@wanton niche actually I know who you're hoping it is you're hoping they jump to GB and they finally make Shamira a walking

[ionic gull]

i got a team with daimon oden mishka mulan, and then a dim comp with rem emilia albedo and merlin, and then idk

[slender tapir]

lucretia

[ionic gull]

doesn’t work anymore

[kind vessel]

Only "LB" teams I can think of are Scarlet or AwBel stuff but you don't use things for faction bonus most of the time

[ionic gull]

she starts going and then dies 😭

[wanton niche]

Pretty much

[slender tapir]

then get a bigger lucretia

[ionic gull]

i know i need to ascend her but stargazer hates me rn

[glad breach]

Domzy used to be all about faction buff.. he should be on the Maetria train 100% since she makes everyone Hypo.

@stable verge

Bro

[kind vessel]

[obsidian jewel]

Do you have her SI30

[glad breach]

Remsux

[glad breach]

Emilia is the true Dim savior

[ionic gull]

I was running her with L Maetria and some garbage hypos, sometimes lyca to make it go faster

[obsidian jewel]

@ionic gull you have the wrong artifact on her

[glad breach]

You need to collect for Lucretia and use DD

[ionic gull]

Dual divinity is unfortunately the artifact that unlocks from ch 34

Lol

I have the longbow if that’s useful…

[obsidian jewel]

@ionic gull yeah that is the second best one for her the one you have on her is the third best one

[wanton niche]

My guess is that it’s going to be awakened Eironn though

[void sequoia]

who should I be using

[ember thunder]

With the VoW it's so obvious

[prime isle]

And new Codes?

[wanton niche]

Yep this

[slender tapir]

daimon and 4 friends

[obsidian jewel]

Isn't he beyond meta

[void sequoia]

friends?

[wanton niche]

In that he’s no longer meta and is past it? Sure

[slender tapir]

yeah give him some friends

[wanton niche]

[void sequoia]

Just support?

[wanton niche]

He comes up from time to time in HF and AE

[slender tapir]

supports, tanks, utility etc

experiment

[void sequoia]

okay thanks

[obsidian jewel]

I have a feeling that the next Wilder awoken hero is going to be Tasi

And the next story the next huge story is going to have something to do with nightmares and sleeping

[glad breach]

I have a feeling hope that the next Wilder awoken hero is going to be Tasi FTFY

[ionic gull]

Is awakened tasi gonna have a skill that’s gonna delete a ezizh from the game

[spare wolf]

maybe they'll remember to give ezizh his loading screen

[glad breach]

[kind vessel]

In your dreams

[pastel cave]

Tbh i was surprised we didnt get woke tasi with woke ezizh

Considering they are rivals

[prime isle]

R they?

[glad breach]

Honestly we all know the next awakened will be GB.

[pastel cave]

Yeah

[pastel cave]

Woke shem

Ez

[glad breach]

Neva->Baden Trish->GB

[prime isle]

Theowyn

[glad breach]

Patterns

[prime isle]

I hope they Make a woke Gwynn saber face needs to be done justice

[pastel cave]

Or woke niru

[glad breach]

Or...

[pastel cave]

To finally get an ascended tier hero niru to join his family

[glad breach]

Could be a brand new hero

[prime isle]

https://tenor.com/view/fgo-fgo-learing-with-manga-gudako-saber-anime-gif-22680360

[obsidian jewel]

I hope they don't ever do that again

[prime isle]

FGO collab when

[obsidian jewel]

Unless they release it at the end of another huge story like they did with the previous one

[prime isle]

That would be kinda hype

[obsidian jewel]

Isn't that Joan of Arc from another game

[prime isle]

Nah that’s another girl they just look similar

[obsidian jewel]

I swore her name was Joan of Arc on that game

[prime isle]

I hope they make a collab with the other game ngl it would be hype

They made already once with persona so I don’t see why they wouldn’t

[stone bane]

[obsidian jewel]

They've already made collabs with several other games

[prime isle]

Is that true? Dang I know only the Witcher one I didn’t know there were other games too

[obsidian jewel]

@prime isle samurai showdown samurai showdown 2 you already mentioned persona 5 assistance Creed Prince of Persia

[prime isle]

Oh yea I forgot about assassin creed

He exists

[obsidian jewel]

Oh yeah I forgot about Witcher 3

[prime isle]

It’s not like he is irrelevant tho which is weird

Idk Witcher I haven’t seen anyone use him

[obsidian jewel]

I want a collab with legend of Zelda I want Link and Zelda

[prime isle]

If they do they better use the green link design

https://tenor.com/view/link-gif-4972953

[stone bane]

zelda collab would be so dope

[stone bane]

kanye 😭

[obsidian jewel]

Wouldn't it be cooler if as you upgrade his gear the look of him changes

[stone bane]

is that possible

[prime isle]

That would be pretty cool but also would be too much effort for devs

I doubt they will do it

[obsidian jewel]

Yeah there is a few heroes that there looks change as they go up in rarity

[prime isle]

Oh really?

[stone bane]

yea but like

u said gear

[obsidian jewel]

Kaz

[stone bane]

numisu, mauler catwoman too

mirael

[obsidian jewel]

Yeah I did say gear but still they could do that for him

[stone bane]

maybe even silvina i forgor

[stone bane]

imagine if they even make his gear custom

[obsidian jewel]

Or his outfit would just change in battle according to what happens on the battlefield

Like his outfit would start off green but if fire happens on the battlefield it would change to red

Or if the battlefield would have water on it it changes to Blue

This would be the weird thing I would want I would like to choose which class Zelda would become you could either make her ranger or a mage

Or they did the exact same thing with Zelda they would give her a special kind of gear that would make it change the way she looked

[obsidian jewel]

But that's all wishful thinking

[wanton niche]

They finally added Witchers to garrison

[rancid garnet]

so people can actually hire Geralt for monster slaying

[slender tapir]

[keen relic]

worth to garrison either of them now?

for younger acc

[prime isle]

Biggest fraud case known to man⁉️

[keen relic]

no its good actually

but dims come first

[prime isle]

Dim for prio and challenger it’s a pain in the ass for coins to collect

[slender tapir]

mortas is good

[prime isle]

Ik but you can probably have them Both A from gazing by the time you finish dims

[ember thunder]

You have SO MANY celepos to get from that shop anyways

[slender tapir]

nope

[ember thunder]

Basically everyone except orthros

I'm taking older player into consideration because they almost all have Alna zol mortas etc

[slender tapir]

mortas isnt so useful like alna that you need to rush him so you can just get him from store

[glass star]

And eventually you want orthros anyways

[ember thunder]

With everyone else there's in that shop

Ya ain't getting Orthros before 2025

And I'm being generous

[prime isle]

Challenger is way too expensive tbh

[ember thunder]

I'm champion 20-30 and I can barely get an ascended hero per year

With all those FUCKING double dims

And I'm doing dismal too

My Zolrath was E+ around February, he's L+ now

🥶

[prime isle]

Started playing 2 weeks before Remelia n look at my bag dawg 😭

They need to do something for challengers fr

[ember thunder]

Don't call me dawg I don't know you

🥶

[prime isle]

Kys 💔

Can’t even be friendly no more

[glass star]

I'm just glad I didn't get powercapped here

[ember thunder]

Bro thinks I'm serious

[prime isle]

😭

[prime isle]

Rem so awesome n cool

Until Brutus is on the other team n he survives the 1 shot

Shes operating on hopes n dreams

[glass star]

Brutus isnt too big an issue for me anymore

[prime isle]

Fair

[glass star]

imagine having less power with 24 more lvls lmao

[prime isle]

I heard like flora is the annoying character later on

[prime isle]

Dang when tf did u manage to F9 her

That’s wild I got only 1 F9

[ember thunder]

Flora doesn't do shit

[glass star]

I used my furn cards on her lmao, she's my only 9f too

[prime isle]

My only F9 is this guy

[glass star]

got lots of 2-4fs thoufh

what engraving is he?

[prime isle]

41

[faint sandal]

Make him +20

[prime isle]

I gotta get the golds first

[faint sandal]

[glass star]

Mine e52 XD

[prime isle]

I can do more but followed the Engraving guide

Ppl told me to not E60 him

[slender tapir]

why 52

[slender tapir]

thats good advice

[prime isle]

Also rem lost 1v1 with Brutus

[glass star]

Fair enough; I'm not exactly playing optimally, so starter guide not helpful for me XD

[prime isle]

Do u got him f9?

[glass star]

Desira makes Brutus 100x easier, just saying

[faint sandal]

"Not exactly"

[prime isle]

I don’t got her upgraded

Working to get enough Fodders to A 1* Farael

Also my hogkin luck sucks

[glass star]

I donr expect meta players to XD, Just in my personal experience, having the teamwide immunity granted by desira makes Brutus a lot less RNG

there's probably better ways to handle him, that's just what my personal experience taught me

[glad breach]

Buff stripping, immunity ignoring mostly.

[glass star]

Silas can probably do the same thing if he ults on rem specifically, or like that, having someone that ignores or strips immunity

[glad breach]

Immune tanking too

Dodge is impossible because he will roar.

[prime isle]

Stage 390 in tower is pretty hard dang

[glass star]

Aw Brutus, Ezio, Nara, Fawkes, and Nakoruru are really the only ones I remember that can remove immunity

[prime isle]

I can prob beat it but like holy shit they r tanky

[glass star]

not 100% sure if Aw Belinda does cuz I haven't used her, but I've been told she does

[brisk saddle]

Made new account and got her from soulstones

[prime isle]

I won

[whole ravine]

[winter nexus]

rem is not great at high deff tho

[glad breach]

Yes she works

[winter nexus]

is very good to use in campaign till a certail x def

i think shes better then daimon for early

[glass star]

Can it cause damage on immune targets though?

[prime isle]

Having 8 copies of a hero but no Fodders gotta be the worst feeling ever

[glad breach]

Lvl 4 dispels buff

That's how it works, not bypassing immunity

[glass star]

Well, I had this bit you already beat it XD

[glass star]

Yeah, but it says when it deals damage; can you damage an immune target for that to trigger?

[prime isle]

Grehz f9 op

[glad breach]

Counts as a damage instance even if your damage is nullified.

[glass star]

Ah, fair enough; which skill is that?

[glad breach]

More correctly it should say "on hit"

2nd

I think

[glass star]

Oh, so just need sig 30 for that?

[glad breach]

20

[glass star]

Even better, 30 is for 2 flames

I'll build ABel once my Wolise is asc

Unless you think leaving Wolise at mythic 20-30 is worth starting ABel now

[prime isle]

Is there a GB A that I can use as a fodder?

[glass star]

Shemira?

But you really shouldn't fodder asc tier heroes anyways

[prime isle]

Ik but it’s an important Asc of a prio

Ig I will wait tho

[glass star]

I mean, considering shemira has been replaced in even Dark Nemora TR, I guess you can use her, but I would do that with a grain of salt

[glad breach]

I feel like this is old advice and not relevant to fodder tier ascended.

Used to be you'd need to raise them for RC or tree at some point but there are so many you'll take a long time to get to your Shemira copies.

[glass star]

Is there a general consensus or guide for which heroes are considered fodder tier then?

[prime isle]

Nah though maybe I could use someone else

[glad breach]

Not a concensus but there are safe ones.

[glass star]

Is izold fodder tier now?

[ripe oak]

well you specifically, aren't never gonna build him? since he's a dude

[glass star]

I meant in general

[glad breach]

Izold is fodder tier yeah

[prime isle]

So should I fodder him?

[glad breach]

Niche uses every so often but nothing a midgame player should ever be concerned about when they pop up

[prime isle]

I can make fareal A1* if I do

[glass star]

Since from what I can tell he's been back burnered even more by recent releases

[glad breach]

I would probably do it. Others would disagree though.

[glass star]

You can use the izold and Isabella copies safely, pretty sure; unless Isabella is still needed for one of the CR rounds

[glad breach]

You can still rapidly acquire new SGs with a more full roster so imo its worth it.

[prime isle]

Kk

[crystal radish]

@winter nexus rem is broken in campaign and tower on high deficit in combination with daemia and Emilia, has become a stronger comp for me then abelinda

[glass star]

Is torne still necessary later on for CR?

[glad breach]

If that Ferael being done today helps you push GB tower or campaign it's worth it.

[glad breach]

Dont think so but I don't keep track especially of substitutions.

[glass star]

What was torne rounds replaced with?

[glad breach]

I wouldn't know. My minion does my CR.

[glass star]

oh lmao

[lavish verge]

🤐

[prime isle]

Tommorow the GB tower push will be nasty

[ionic gull]

im honestly wondering if i should have leveled thoran to 240 off of rc so he could have higher deficit

[ocean hinge]

i havent used torne

in a while

[glass star]

What replaced him?

[radiant pollen]

Maetria

[glass star]

Ah, fair

[ionic gull]

Just got lv 6 resonance

[wanton niche]

Grats

[ionic gull]

Any pets worth picking up for lv6?

Youre the pet whisperer after all

[brazen sonnet]

Shouldn't u just get a copy of every pet?

With resonance it is worth it

[whole ravine]

Torne didn't even get an emoji

[elder sluice]

🌪️ e

[rancid garnet]

All Maulers T4ed

[elder sluice]

Why safiya the last one

[tall ibex]

That what I was thinking lol

But nice that’s impressive

[elder sluice]

She should be the first one instead, used to be our carry

[hasty saffron]

So for wrizz/soren just replace Raine with Daemia or is there a different build all together?

[tall ibex]

Is Daemia used in wrizz now?

[hasty saffron]

yeah so I doubled my high score with just a mythic 20

[quick yew]

Cause saf is nothing more than a debuffer now if not whaled on

[elder sluice]

used in a cr round

and a carry in the past

[hasty saffron]

safiya stans? 2021 afk arena is back baby and I am here for it

[tall ibex]

What rc are you

[quick yew]

Unless it's the boss, I'm not seeing her at all

[elder sluice]

replace rowan/lorsan

[hasty saffron]

wait Rowan or Lorsan

Haven't used them in ages

[whole ravine]

Can kill wrizz at rc 450

[hasty saffron]

530

[elder sluice]

rosa abel raine palmer daemia is the meta now

blade eye call eye eye

[tall ibex]

Dang that’s exciting, I’m probably almost there

[whole ravine]

High lvl pet for the rc 449 clear tho

[quick yew]

Who'd you use in place of baelinda

[hasty saffron]

twins in the mud??

[whole ravine]

Nobody, you need to use Aw Bel

[hasty saffron]

aBel or bust, that's the right take

[whole ravine]

Twins will always be needed somewhere

[quick yew]

Mines only mythic

She is si30, but not ascended

[hasty saffron]

I don't think I've ever not used them against wrizz and soren

oh well, their laughs are the worst, won't miss it

[sly gorge]

E30 Tamrus or emi

[whole ravine]

NC, CR

And all the other multibattle modes will find a use for them

[quick yew]

Once she hits ascended though, she'll have instant 9f XD

[brazen sonnet]

Tears

Because there is no sub

[hasty saffron]

it's really, really close for me between using the Twins and Raine

[quick yew]

She's ready for ascension, will just need to hoard gazers to get her to 1* after

[sly gorge]

Should I e30 Tamrus or emi?

[whole ravine]

Haste dupes

[quick yew]

Personally I'd say tamrus

[quick yew]

Wut

[whole ravine]

[hasty saffron]

twins edge raine out with the wrizz, at least for me.

[sly gorge]

Tam can go in burst and emi can carry dim team

[quick yew]

Jasy, what do you mean haste dupes

[whole ravine]

@quick yew the dupe game for some heroes with very useful stats is worth it

She gets haste as additional stat

On one of the furns

[quick yew]

Ah

[sly gorge]

Jasy wyt emi or Tamrus

[brazen sonnet]

Burst just seems so underwhelming now without aathalia

I ascended mine and burst team shot up from like 30% WR to 80%

[sly gorge]

I have max athane burst would be solid

[whole ravine]

Maybe Emi, I can't recall if she had extra IS nodes

[whole ravine]

Like this

[sly gorge]

Think she was e44 but I can’t remember the nodes either

[elder sluice]

haste atk mp crit

[sly gorge]

e60 better or e44 work?

[elder sluice]

e44

[whole ravine]

Personally I'm going for 36f on her, still need some more

[hasty saffron]

now, if I could only build a second team that wins consistently 😭

[sly gorge]

So emi first then Tamrus?

[quick yew]

Any tips for my lackluster teams

[elder sluice]

Between those 2? If u focus on TS more then emi, else tam for CR

[sly gorge]

Ts or cr got better rewards?

[sly gorge]

This wat I’m running rn

[elder sluice]

whats ur rank atm

[quick yew]

No abrutus or cruke for me

Or audrae

[sly gorge]

Ts or cr

[elder sluice]

Both

[whole ravine]

I use the CN guides sometimes, you can check for yourself

[quick yew]

My old teams I had

[sly gorge]

Top 1% TS top 60% Cr

[hasty saffron]

where did that guide come from?

[elder sluice]

why so low CR
Emi then

[sly gorge]

Only 3 wokes barely started focusing cr recently that and my pets n tree r lacking so I’m hard focusing those

[ionic gull]

Is garrison priority now albedo -> yen -> queen?

[elder sluice]

There are lots of f2p alt no wokes
where queen?

[elder sluice]

yes

[ionic gull]

oh god yen is a 30960 hero isn’t she

[quick yew]

Tips for my treasure lines?

[elder sluice]

u can keep her at 203e41 atk haste mp

[elder sluice]

u dont like cr?

[quick yew]

Why

Do you ask

[elder sluice]

cuz i saw no ts badges so for old players cr should be easier to get badges bcs higher tree

[quick yew]

I can never get klegend XD

Legend*

[sly gorge]

Don’t have garrison her atm

[elder sluice]

gather more info lol

[whole ravine]

We have a CR channel now

[elder sluice]

shes used a lot in CR

[whole ravine]

Check the pins there

[quick yew]

I do, and alot of people use Chad's I don't have or woke

[glass star]

I'm assuming albedo is still the best first garrison?

[elder sluice]

yes

[sly gorge]

Yea but I didn’t get her

[whole ravine]

They offer a guide with a lot of subs for CR

You should be able to at least get into legends

[elder sluice]

well get her e33 IS one day if u have any interests on CR
For now just focus on TS lol

[whole ravine]

CR can get frustrating with all the rng involved

Last round I had a difference of 14b between my best and my worst try

42b and 28b

[sly gorge]

I’m getting into cr that’s y imma get her built

[elder sluice]

bel and rem rng hell

[glass star]

Early game sucks cuz you can't get the resources you need to make the investments you need to do good in game modes to get more resources lmao

[elder sluice]

u can join early TS and get high rank easier than old people

[glass star]

especially since I'm still missing two resource heavy game modes

[whole ravine]

I score around 5% in CR, so I'm happy with that, I don't think I'm getting more anytime soon

[elder sluice]

nice

[glass star]

Don't have CR or NC, so I'm getting less than half the resources most others would get

[whole ravine]

Wait, you don't have, what was it, 30A to unlock CR?

Or was there a rc req too?

[ocean hinge]

can i show u my past team comps?

[ripe oak]

30A OR rc350. only need one of those

[elder sluice]

heres an old f2p comp in 2022, only 1 woke

[glass star]

I don't even have 15 asc, much less 30 lmao, who do you think I am?

[ocean hinge]

@quick yew this is my team comps from over a yr ago

[elder sluice]

2022 so dont question why its only 19B just let you know u can rank better without wokes @quick yew

[quick latch]

i always score 100%, never lose any percentage

[eternal bronze]

[whole ravine]

Lexi, haven't you been around here for a couple of years now?

[ocean hinge]

maybe this is better

[whole ravine]

[ocean hinge]

she quit and made a new acc

[whole ravine]

Oh, I see

[glass star]

I quit when witcher Collab was released and only just now came back on a new account

[whole ravine]

Why not use the old acc?

[glass star]

8 months without any pet investment or new hero investments? Didn't see a point as I felt the account was too far behind

[whole ravine]

But you had the dims and whatnot, no?

[ocean hinge]

yes

[glass star]

Just Ainzbedo and the non-collab dims

[mossy grove]

your poor little thali on the old account

[ocean hinge]

hi zod

[mossy grove]

hey

[whole ravine]

Thats a lot

[glass star]

Had prince too but I skipped queen/joker cuz Lilith's excessive use of double collabs was pissing me off

[mossy grove]

tbh it is mostly just waiting for more power to be able to start the battles not really that difficult anymore once you have a lot of heroes available

[whole ravine]

and vip 17 helps

[mossy grove]

[ocean hinge]

🐳

[glass star]

And albedo is literally the only one thats super important now lmao; Ainz fell off, prince was never super high to begin with, and queen is still a 5-pull thing to my knowledge

[mossy grove]

[ocean hinge]

queen is rlly good

[glass star]

I mean, I'm ignoring Ainz, joker, and ukyo completely

[ocean hinge]

cr exists

[quick latch]

@unique sky make me work for you

[ocean hinge]

shes rlly good though

[glass star]

probably only dims i'll garrison for a long while will be albedo, queen, and Yennifer

and Nakoruru, of course

which order should I garrison the first 3? The order I stated them? Or is Yennifer more important than queen now?

[ocean hinge]

albedo prob yen then queen

as queen is cr focus and uhhhh cr kinda sad for newer accs

[glass star]

Yeah, I still can't get rewards from CR

What's yenn for then? I thought they were both cr units

[ocean hinge]

yen can be used in ts too

but not sure as u have emi

[glass star]

what team is the more important question

[ocean hinge]

dim team

i used to use albedo merlin ainz yen joa

[glass star]

Cuz I can't run like 75% of the meta comps XD

[ocean hinge]

but now thats kinda like

yen and ainz get replaced by rem and emi

[glass star]

I'm going for Joan and Mulan first from stores

[wise fiber]

eh some people do emi yenn and rem in another comp

[ocean hinge]

and ldv for chal store?

[glad sand]

new Wilder incoming?

[wise fiber]

depends on what you're missing

[glass star]

Ehhh, I won't get LDV anytime soon, you already know why XD

[whole ravine]

Ye

Tomorrow

With a new pet

On test

[wise fiber]

inb4 it's talene 3.0 in tame mode

[quick latch]

that’s wild bro

[glad sand]

So next Tuesday for the live servers

[whole ravine]

Should be

[glass star]

I'm immediately putting new pet in wishlist over souffle as soon as it comes out

[whole ravine]

Talene, Aw Talene, Mae, Dae, should be Talene 5.0

[quick latch]

still no awakened ulmus yet

[wise fiber]

i meant mae in tame mode

[whole ravine]

[wise fiber]

disguise mae doesn't really look like talene

so not talene 5.0

[whole ravine]

Bae

[wise fiber]

[elder sluice]

6-7 teams yes

[wise fiber]

we're getting oversaruted on pets

[elder sluice]

especially f2p

[ocean hinge]

true

[wise fiber]

even if they just keep releasing best in slot pet every release

there's still only so much you need

[ocean hinge]

im only survivng because of pet reso

[whole ravine]

Wait until they add a 7th battle for CR and NC

[wise fiber]

[slender tapir]

please no

[ocean hinge]

time to yeet myself

[quick latch]

use all heroes

[wise fiber]

i'm close to reso 18 which means new powercreep incoming

lilith pretty much times it so people at my spending level can't catch up

[ocean hinge]

im only at reso 9

[wise fiber]

f2p obviously just doomed

[glass star]

I'm one owl or spice from reso 6, it's aggravating the crap out a me

[wise fiber]

reso 6 doesn't do that much, i would delay for spice return so you can skip to reso 9 faster

[quick latch]

[wise fiber]

reso 9 is the giga jump in power

[quick latch]

this is vurk adding some salt to the dish

🍛

[whole ravine]

[wise fiber]

i could have sworn famaz quit

[quick latch]

my 2 braincells just disconnected for a moment, i want to apologize

[whole ravine]

This is _famaz

[ocean hinge]

imma be sad if i get owl 15 before rock 12

[wise fiber]

[idle walrus]

that’s a good idea

[spare wolf]

jasy still has numbers

[wise fiber]

rock 12 kinda disappointing but i guess everyone i'm fighting has rock 18 so no shit mine can't compare

[whole ravine]

[ocean hinge]

im just trying to get reso 12

[wise fiber]

team loses with rock 11, team still loses with rock 12

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean hinge]

i need 4 copies of rock for reso 12

[wise fiber]

probably helped a lot in campaign but we don't really count that

[wise fiber]

i have a bunch of lv11's after clicking reso 12

uneven leveling yikes

[quick latch]

@unique sky lets make it even together

[wise fiber]

wat

[glass star]

How many pet copies would I need to wait for

[wise fiber]

idk, i can't math

what is it, 5 pets to 9?

[wanton niche]

Yep

[wise fiber]

and you're 4 off 4 pets to 6

so

something something math physics world domination

[glass star]

3 of

[slender tapir]

whats the point though, just get pets to 9 manually, if you save spice you wont have a problem

[wise fiber]

can speed 9 up by not having to wait for right pulls

[glass star]

3 off, I have 2 spices

[slender tapir]

no need to spice trick, just gonna lead you to having worse pets along the way

[wanton niche]

This pretty much

[wise fiber]

lv6 pets basically does nothing though

[slender tapir]

exactly

[wise fiber]

the balls do better

so what's the point in reso 6 when you can push 9 faster?

[slender tapir]

so thats why you start getting level 9 pets instead of sitting at 6 forever

[wanton niche]

It’s not faster

You need the exact same number of pet copies

[spare wolf]

only 3 balls

[wanton niche]

Whether you delay or don’t

[quick latch]

[spare wolf]

[wise fiber]

it's faster in situations where you somehow just keep pulling one pet over and over

[glass star]

only 3 balls and you need 5 pets for teams at least

[quick latch]

don’t sweat

[wise fiber]

like me pulling 7/10 moths somehow

[quick latch]

[spare wolf]

ok im sorry

[wanton niche]

Bait the others then, or take moth off if you like

[glass star]

I have Souffle 7

kept getting copies of them

[wise fiber]

i just think reso 6 is basically pointless when you're also considering the balls ¯_(ツ)_/¯

except maybe seal 6

[wanton niche]

And Talismane and owl

[glass star]

My seal is already 6 lmao

[wise fiber]

i imagine those are already 6 if you can reso anything

you do need 4

[glass star]

owl 3, don't have Talismane yet

[wanton niche]

Yeah, so why bother not resonating

[wise fiber]

to skip the rng for 9 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glass star]

If I reso, I get Talismane 6 too

instead of having to RNG 15 Talismane copies for 9

[wanton niche]

Save your spices to manage rng

Not really a struggle

[wise fiber]

i experienced super slanted rng while low on spice and it wasn't fun but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glass star]

considering I don't have the same bait income you guys have, it's a bit more difficult for me

[slender tapir]

that doesnt really change anything

[wise fiber]

i remember using the balls even with reso 6 but i don't remember which pet we were up to

[wanton niche]

The balls were better before level 3 skills

[wise fiber]

i think talismane was out though

[wanton niche]

It wasn’t

[wise fiber]

definitely not cake

[wise fiber]

i saved bait

[sudden marsh]

am i supposed to donate this tf

[wise fiber]

i've done three 10k+ bait pulls lol

[slender tapir]

yes give it to me

[wise fiber]

pulling small amounts of bait feels so unrewarding

[spare wolf]

No, you got 510 coins

[wise fiber]

i can't do it without cringing

[wise fiber]

what kind of krakens complain about guild coins smh

[spare wolf]

i think those are for the guild trials when a new hero releases, i forgot

[wanton niche]

They are for guild trials, yeah

[wise fiber]

i think it's like 4k per month f2p if you rank alright, without NC in the picture?

add on nobles and NC and it's about 10k every two months

[glass star]

I don't get baits from CR yet

[wise fiber]

obviously early game different picture

[sly gorge]

@wanton niche spare 30 shards so I can finish emi

[sudden marsh]

im about to reach $0 in my bank account

[glass star]

early is anything < 5 teams

[wise fiber]

found something that says 60-90 bait daily f2p

not early game

but also not super old f2p

[glass star]

not even 1 10x from that a day

[wise fiber]

idle, shop, fast forwards, scramble, MV, lab, rift

[spare wolf]

early, mid, late, end game are always evolving terms and is meaningless to define

[sudden marsh]

i have to fix so many engraves

[wise fiber]

it's calculating those

[spare wolf]

its always changing

[sudden marsh]

i also go e30, e60 and never to like e33/36/41/65 etc

i just click rapid and forget about it

[wise fiber]

i'm just thinking 10-30% CR people

wait but this calc doesn't include CR for bait

[glass star]

I'm 0% in cr

[quick yew]

Just noticed, no pets on last 3 teams?

[spare wolf]

yeah fish, that sounds pretty close to right

[sudden marsh]

oh yeah is palmer a t3 or t4 hero

[spare wolf]

idk if it takens into account event baits

[wise fiber]

you do have to at least be able to finish the rift bait rewards, not sure what floor that was have to open game

the later floors get cores instead i think? so you don't have to finish

palmer dmg invest is good

[spare wolf]

one of the last ones you can pick t4 or 50 bait. but idk what new people take there

[clever dagger]

do you guys buy the 320dia baits from store everyday?

[spare wolf]

[wise fiber]

and he dies so defense invest isn't bad, could still die though

but you also have to watch palmer power so he doesn't go above whalinda or scarlet or whatever you use him with lol

[spare wolf]

i do, but im not f2p

[wise fiber]

or you'll forever have to watch raine follow

which is pain

withholding gear and save some pain if power is on the edge

[clever dagger]

the value feels terrible but I do anyw

[wise fiber]

i still buy bait but i stopped doing 100x ffs

[upbeat urchin]

[wise fiber]

well, some days i do one, but i stopped doing both every day

i even did up to 200 for a while

as in 200 dia cost ff

[clever dagger]

Pretty sure 200 is worth

[topaz crescent]

zapgpt

hi

[spare wolf]

hi horse

[wise fiber]

stops being worth imo when you start needing very little out of it

didn't say it didn't feel worth while i was doing it, but i feel like i outgrew it

went from needing diamonds for investment back to needing diamonds for hcp

[spare wolf]

i want to be able to cap faction towers, idc about rc past that. thats a long way off still though

[wise fiber]

and sometimes more retries on CR can actually give me more rewards etc

i capped sometime between 1050 release, capped out again easier this batch

[spare wolf]

what rc are you at

[wise fiber]

840?

[spare wolf]

cursed realm

[sudden marsh]

?

[wise fiber]

capped at 1050 at about lowest power, but i outgrew 1080

could probably cap at a strong 800?

[spare wolf]

im not even 700 yet

[wise fiber]

oh

[upbeat urchin]

[spare wolf]

maybe ambitious dreams of capping faction tower

[sudden marsh]

is this a troll

[spare wolf]

is what a troll

[wise fiber]

rc gain still faster than hero release schedule if you at dust rate cap

[sudden marsh]

i thought youd be much higher

[wise fiber]

so you'll cap out...eventually

[sudden marsh]

yes

[quick yew]

Who can be a good replacement for abrutus

[spare wolf]

im 697

[wise fiber]

might take years

[sudden marsh]

in what

[quick yew]

Cr

[mossy grove]

zappy is talking about rc not floor in faction tower

[spare wolf]

yes

[wise fiber]

i know

you gain like 7~8 levels per 2 weeks? and +5 cap

[sudden marsh]

i was gonna say olgath but ur ch44

[mossy grove]

i think kamal thought he meant floor

[quick yew]

Yeah....

[wise fiber]

so if game lasts long enough, everyone will catch their rc cap

[sly gorge]

Krakens

[quick yew]

I'm going for cruke rn

[spare wolf]

i could cram more, but i need to gaze new cele and finish olgath

[safe panther]

Just hoping for permanent 999 RC cap.

[quick yew]

I could also merc olgath

[spare wolf]

the in game cap is already higher than 999

[upbeat urchin]

[spare wolf]

its set to 1415

but i think it increases still

[sudden marsh]

how do i see when i entered a chapter

[sly gorge]

Krakens

[ocean hinge]

no cause pets were that new lol

slot them in tho

[spare wolf]

wall of legends will show you if youre in the top 5

nice

[upbeat urchin]

what are you now?

[sudden marsh]

cuz i havent moved a stage in more than 3 months

my favorite thing is watching oden massacre

[harsh marlin]

rem or Emilia to e60 first?

[sudden marsh]

emi

[harsh marlin]

Elaborate

[sudden marsh]

trust me bro

[harsh marlin]

Ok

[sudden marsh]

why would i (batman) lie to you

[harsh marlin]

I trust batman

Emi it is

[sudden marsh]

baller

[wanton niche]

No, the value and time savings are not only negligible but harmful if you don't have all stargaze heroes

[mossy grove]

all of them

[clever dagger]

lol I just did the math and you’re spending 19200 diamonds for 480 baits a month

is that correct?

[unique sky]

I will give you names

[sudden marsh]

no fucking way

[marsh mauve]

That little over 1 copy

So bad

[clever dagger]

I thought every bit of bait counted but honestly looking at it like that idk now

[frank narwhal]

There's enough places to get bait now that it seems really ass to buy them from the store

[slender tapir]

that's closer to 2 copies really

[frank narwhal]

Eh that's 1 copy

[slender tapir]

stop being unlucky

[frank narwhal]

I just went over 500 for a copy the other day I was perturbed

It's usually like 300 to 400

[slender tapir]

400 is the average and then you have spice buildup too, leading to 1 pet every 300 total

[rain bay]

Ooooh isle of gold coming back soon

[sudden marsh]

what

[rain bay]

Lol

[sudden marsh]

all of a sudden i remember why i stopped playing campaign

[mossy grove]

eluard is insanely fast during his opener

[marsh mauve]

Stop remembering

[sly gorge]

[rain bay]

Bruh this dude is such a horrible kraken

All he does is whale 3036100s but his tree is so bad

I had more total tree levels than him at like rc 550

[sly gorge]

Evrything else I get but thesku

[rain bay]

Thesku is fun

Don't judge

[sly gorge]

I mean fair enough

[rain bay]

He's actually pretty strong

Good cc and damage

[ocean hinge]

if u r gonna whale 309e100 and stufd at least get reso 18

and how is my f2poor tree better than the kraken's

also 7.6% ts yikes

[rain bay]

Really sad kraken

Dude doesn't even have any mishka furn, doesnt even have ascended skreg either

[ocean hinge]

double clown

[rain bay]

But not 9f skriath. Mishka rem, emi baelinda etc

But he has all these

[ocean hinge]

prob 36f all those

but doesnt 9f the inportant ones

[rain bay]

He has 0f rem

3 baelinda

Such a sad kraken

[ocean hinge]

he needs some healp

[rain bay]

For sure

[marsh mauve]

Help him

Maybe he will repay you in google credit

Or kren dollars

[ionic gull]

I’m stupid, so can someone tell me which heroes to use moth with?

I’m guessing Kren because he focuses on his normal attack?

[rain bay]

I don't even remember what moth does ngl lol

[quick latch]

67676….

[rain bay]

Athane, eorin, vei, lucretia, kren, abrutus, oden raku drez abaden all do a lot of normal attack damage

[ionic gull]

Oh i didn’t know about oden thanks for the tip

[rain bay]

His normals can do a lot

Once he is ramped

[void sequoia]

Gwyneth any good?

[scarlet prawn]

new redeem codes

[wanton niche]

Bro the 1440 is right there

That’s the number of minutes in a 24hr day

[crystal radish]

Does rem si30 go through Brutus immunity shield btw?

[ember thunder]

no

it's not really a shield

even if it looks like one

[crystal radish]

Thx

[main tree]

I would've assumed it would also but doesn't for some reason

[wanton niche]

It deals damage like a poison almost

Except it’s not over time

[plain echo]

1 more almost

[fair tapir]

She looks smaller than a midget

[prime isle]

does joining a new guild do anything to your account?

or does everything stay the same

not like it changes the heroes you have

might change the exact list of heroes you can merc a little

i see

does it change garrison?

usually just watch for how often soren is unlocked

[prime isle]

no?

[prime isle]

^

no?

yes?

you dont have to reply to your own message you just sent

my b

this app is odd

why no with a question mark 💀

tone indicator bruv

gotcha

[austere chasm]

Just starting with the game

Whats the suggested wishlist

[quick latch]

it’s individually. reflect yourself and write down your deepest dreams and desires on a piece of paper. then rank them.

[tepid epoch]

ok losers im on 47-28

[slender tapir]

in #classic-questions ^

[cunning wigeon]

[prime isle]

Reached 30mil CP and floor 400 in tower

💪

[languid cedar]

Who’s ready?