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any player in the game right will hit rc max cap within 6 years with sustained playing
I got 5 talenes one from event and 4 from random pulls but that means I didn’t get to swap wukong for c&r and did athane instead.
I only want to reach the dream shop thing, which is either 350level or 30 asc, to start using it
obviously time period is different depending on spending level, your current distance from RC max cap etc.
that was also incredibly lucky
More abandoned Lilith features.
I don't think any other f2p swapped atalene for another awakened
well at least any other top f2p
I had to swap for tarnos because literally nothing else to swap to lol
Still can play arounf them
most people did cruke I think
Sound crazy but I assumed Lilith would do a swap event, reason why I’m getting aTalene ascended again through tr cause I’d be able to swap in 2 years if another one shows up
I mean
I swapped Drez to Astar...
that's a really big gamble
it just happened that there was a swap event when there hasn't been for 4 years
I think that was pretty lucky in itself
I mean sure but there is no competing with multiple e80s as well and just higher investment in general.
Nothing good to do he was e80 for a mode I'll never participate in seriously again.
I’m a game dev myself and follow Lilith decisions closely. a swap for anniversary wasn’t super low chance due to constant powercreep. Its extremely desired from the community.
True im trying to pass my 6-8% stuck point
there's a lot of other things that is highly desired by the community
almost none of those things got implemented
And if there was no swap this year next would have been much more likely, I see them do it again next year tbh
because it costs lilith a lot to host an even tlike that
You never stop hearing about requests for dim tower.

for basically zero benefit
The functionality is there it’s a toggle now also new players with legacy of grit event increases retention like crazy, it’s just more profit for them
it's like why hoarding 1m diamonds in hopes that lilith will make TGs buyable for 500 diamonds each is a dumb idea
They benefit like crazy tbh there is a lot of data analysis going behind these decisions
Iirc thats for returning?
Legacy of Grit is very different to random hero swapping
beginners make mistakes
and it's tough when those mistakes cost them their account's future
Swap event that doesn’t take into account new heroes is a very plus ev move from player retention pov.
same cannot be said for the other 95% of the game
not having a swap event will not cause any player to leave the game that hasn't already left the game
U have 1week retention 1month 1 year. Lilith has data for every single decision they make and how it affects players. Adding 1st swap scroll to the game gives them data who uses how long they play and such and can easily extrapolate that swap events is very healthy for retention.
That’s not true
People that ascended Talene or ezizh would quit due to all the better awakened coming out
Cause target regret there decision swap event keeps these players and doesn’t cost them anything since abelinda and maetria weren’t part of the choice. It’s really a big difference on long term retention.
lilith waited almost a whole year before putting out the swap event
people who quit because they built atalene or aezizh and new awakened are better would have long quit
I wouldn't be surprised if we get another one but itll take a long time
I think given this year track record it's safe to assume lilith would do another swap event anniversary next year
Hm rly u think that soon?
Need an engraving swap event that includes Dims again so I can downgrade Ainz.
I was thinking 2 years
I wouldn't say it was obvious or highly logical to assume the same before this year though
same
I need to downgrade lucretia
Also same
Churn rate of mobile games can all be put into numbers, it wasn’t a long shot and I was right with my call, not just a lucky guess
I need it so I can get someone to e100 for the screenshot and then undo it
We debated downgrading Lucretia last time but... next time might be when we go with it.
lol ye
I wasted the last rewind event doing that
I e91ed my ainz
big skelly man
Need Inoz to stop joking about swapping Satrana every time we get a swap.
lol
I just did wu for fram
We will have something big for 5 year anniversary, another swap isn’t unlikely.
I mean I don't think the market can be predicted as easily as that, but I mean gz to you for making the right decision
tbh still too early to downgrade her she is still used in most game modes
cant go without her
I mean
Also predicted beast resonance before it was announced and went all in pets cause I knew with new pets they needed a resonance system
yea over investing in her isnt that good anymore
literally bench warmer hero
Didn’t know how it would work exactly but knew they needed a fix, only thing I need to assume is the devs are competent
pve lucy
Not even
the fix could easily have been increase bait income
decrease pet release rate
now thats sad
PvE is powercap and awakened heroes plus big pets are the meta.
Multistages are trivial.
Tbh i don't see a problem when new pets come out
pets are they were were way too expensive
Reason is because each time one is released they give baits for us to use that can go towards pet reso
Gear was a system people were partly ignoring though. They weren't getting profit and just complaints.
but that doesn't mean resonance will be the solution
ye
you can predict an alleviation of an issue
but I don't think you can predict the method of how without significant insider sources
Na that would have cost them a lot more, Lilith philosophy is allow players to get to a healthy power but mega whale if u wanna push beyond that. Slowing pets down would be worst if both worlds, would have been bad game design decision. Lilith makes very good design decisions and take there time like gear resonance and such. There is so many other solutions but they pick very elegant ones.
especially when it's the first time such a feature is implemented
All mine go to 36 Tali
Long way to go
mhm
they could just x5 the bait income
free bait income that is
if you want lv 18 pets faster, whale
theyre gonna come up with constallation for baits eventually
would have been a viable solution as well
baically what they did with the other powercreep systems
Idk FoS kinda an abandoned feature
That wouldn’t have been a good solution either cause now bait is 5x more expensive in the store
If they wanted to they could add way more to FoS
chally coin FoS when
Relative speaking
just decrease diamond price
they update after long time but feel like it still happens
or increase quantity of purchase
Chally FoS would end up being red chest income for me eventually
new chally store is pretty op
Very occasionally. And not for the things people actually want
Yeah alna mortas in chally is huge
can finally get the alna star and mortas e33 I've been missing out on

but especially for newer players
building alna first is incredible
I mean
they had t3 stone, dim keys, and shard/core last time so not too bad
they literally don't need athalia, ezizh and orthros
no way a new player is getting alna from the store
because you need merlin and ldv
just buy them


350k chally and I'm back to getting basic res.
don't see the problem here sir 

money is the solution to all probs
it'll be yikes
but still
they can build alna over zolrath after they are done with core dims
Merlin still good enough to justify not fast tracking Alna?
I don't think so
He's very mediocre
not if they don't have emilia rem
id build alna before merlin and ldv.
LDV might be hard to beat
but sg and store at the same time
LDV is the king of Dims.
but merlin probably
ye
well they'd probably do lucretia first
then come back for alna ig
but like getting alna earlier is not really a good thing
yea
basically devaluing lab coins at the cost of sgs
well I guess they also get to use alna for a bit longer
I mean this will probably happen in like ch58-59
but like
not exactly early game


Next powercreep fixes that probably.
We're close to it aren't we?
August?
garage inc.
I think sometime around august
based off past years
but they seem to be delaying more and more
it's kinda costly for lilith to do a new powercreep
Well I'll just have to win the lottery before that.
We had a few losses after comp AE tbh.
Recruiting active players (4 slots available) to level 9 guild.
Requirements: Active play.
Guild: Stoners
Guild ID: 141169
We have 3-4 Sorens / week. Aiming for 4-5.
but it's kinda killing the chicken for the eggs
ye comp AE also major killer
ty, missed that it's there
np
He finally proper quitted?
RIP
Ow, I don't have enough rights to send messages there
you need a role
Used to be the only ranking system people could meaningfully participate in.
also later this year
LC always whale days and HoE was infrequent.
lilith is planning that huge cross-guild event
they're probably spending most of their dev resources on that rn
So AE was kinda big and it was a fun application of the game.
I think AE stopped being fun when the drama started
drama started in season 1
basically path + kill 1 boss

not to the extent of S4
that sounds dumb when you can just stargaze alna, but you have no other way of getting merlin
I mean same can be said about joan
and joker
and I see like every dim comp everywhere run merlin
and ukyo
that's assuming they have dim comp
which they don't
unless they build ainzbedo
New field every 3 months weekly boss damage with 25 heroes calculating damage like CR. Quick push for a week to get to boss so you can score some quick early points before the 3 months grind of CR style attempts.
you have a dim comp by the time you're done with ldv
which is like, why are you living in 2020 bro 
you literally have 1 dim

current new players don't have rezero
bedo and ainz, or when remilia comes out bedo and one of them
and it's probably never coming to garrison
and you'll have joan too
so yes new players will have a dim comp looong before merlin
I don't think alna is worth delaying merlin for
the thing with dim comp is
any guide for TR260-280?low spender
Merlin isn't the cornerstone of Dim comp
it's mainly good because of albedo + hypercarry combo
merlin is just also a dim
so is joan
for tr just copy leaderboard and merc the carry
Merlin is anti burst protection.
if new players don't have access to remilia
i avoid all competitive ae guilds
never burned out again
merc for temporal rift?

Ainz garbage waste of res.
for tr, rift is a different story
Ainz is the most underrated hero in this game its crazy
why not use @unique sky
hmmm
all the late game players are past him and think hes useless
Where is he used?
but like name a better hero early and mid game players have access to
literally everywhere except multihit ts
for a new/mid level player*
abelinda is 1 team
and doesnt take dims away
scarlet
also doesnt take dims away
gbs
What dims does a new player have if they're going for Ainz?
Hello @glad breach,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
campaign is 5 teams ts is 7 fill those teams without dims and I'll concede
bedo joan and ldv
Hello @glad breach
yeah wasted effort lol
Rusty vets
Had a Satrana meme account. Ainz would've been garbage in it.
Hi
when
I got Ainzbedo together, then got joan shortly after, and then ldv not too much later
1.5 years?
new players dont have mulan
Aziz was out then I remember.
early game that is
Because I used one L copy of him.
New players wont have ains either in comparison tho
why not
shes in chally store lol
Well ains is not first prio tho
wait mulan is store hero ye
Mulan is a carry yes
who is then
Bedo no?
ezio
bedo for what dims
best assassin in the west
joan and ldv 
What do you do for garrison when a double dim release is upcoming?
If it isn't free yet
Rather just wait for a random dim release
i imitated Dyno
no idea I didnt go through that
prob better carry than ains
sure but at least you would have gotten remilia at the end of it
if its double dim with no hyper carry then lol
new players dont have that option though unless they ever go to garrison
They'll be strong for at least a year I think. Emilia longer.
geralt is still strong
they dont have access to them
idk why people don't use him much anymore
Yen good in ts 
His cc isn't global so it takes iq to use him.

You have to remember the average AFK player is Kitteh
zap zap
so guys how was the whales experience in new flora ?
TS round hasn't started yet so no idea.
shaved everything 🪒 
tbh soo many heroes idk if i should use cards on her or use them to star my awakened heroes
if you really believe in yourself
and try everything you can
and grow above yourself
i think that
you can still not make it

sheeesh we have wishes 🙂
R/im420andthisisdeep
When does flora start appearing in stages?
dont remember tbh but this is tower 300f
No

Too soon 😢
Combined with thoran or brutus, thats a treat
Good... Im struggling with a second team for 31-40 do you think thoran will work not built?
are you not here now
what do you need smoku
Ym is so slow it took her 9month to make a joke
mom used 2 put out cigarettes on my back when i was 3 😳😳😳
bro i think im mentally challenged
cant even pass a stage of forest mania

i never played that type of games
is there like a trick behind
Not really, just luck 
started yesterday chapter 6, level 29, I am having a hard time getting further
do i need to just afk more
i've used all my gems
on noble tav
Did you read the guides
I might lose alot of gems with the new celestian
How meta is she gonna be with bosses?
no
Then go read them. Pinned in #classic-questions and #faq-resources
Wait a couple of weeks
I feel so bad for returning players, literally the advice when they come back is just start new account, I would just quit if I got told that.

NC 3 is hell
can u show ur box ?
Me?
istg discord normal emojis r ugly af
The rng dor the last boss is bad
I've maxed heroes but the comps o try can't kill it
😭😭
bro

that's even more white e80 stars than the top ts/legendary challenge players in my region
i could have the same acc buttt
chemical engineering draining my whole existence fr

i wanna swap 2 pastry or smth
wouldn't abel kill it ?
is that like on ur server or the whole afk
I'm trying to replicate the best hit but idk what's happening that it doesn't kill it
NC 3
whts nc3 
out of curiosity, what's your highest level pet ?
18 pets are expensive 
Not spending
Honestly don't see the point going beyond 18 when there's resonance
is the happylillith510 code new
I'll just save my resources for when ae drops and my gm tells me what to do
not new
ah ok
but new if you haven’t used it ig
when was it released
may 10
probs used then
Android only though
In 2023 that’s wild
pisshole Algeria

there is a big internet monopoly here
a one company for basically the whole country
Dead chat
Dead @sonic dock
Any long term f2p player care to share your vip points?
Hi there
Pre sure F2P max is vip10
Can someone tell me how long it takes for the game to open new servers
Looking for the exact number though
Will the Emilia trial event end before then?
Ends when exchange ends
39540 if this f2p showcase isn’t lying lol

Bob said 40020 so it’s somewhere around there, close enough for me though
I saw one with more but they had a couple of skins I know are paid only
I recently found a job with 12h shift 
Idk
12h 
when you're sitting at 5 grez, 5 thoran, 6 shem, 6 oden, and 7 ferael -_-
Yes I shall do 
🍼
i work 12......
In healthcare there's a lot of that
I work 12 sometimes
ah yeah possible there
@steady shore pspspspspspspspsps
no

u sent a txt message ??????? 
Im assuming this is temporary?
tf is this
what’s that
49 Days left

Idk it allows you to switch your characters tiers

MY LIFE SUCKS
I finally have 9 pieces of furniture for grezhul but it doesn't fit 😂😂😂
what
cant you just autoplace them?
It won't let me
and do big damage
Next reset hopefully i can push again
He’s a minor

FBI OPEN UP
I think pred is 16 in all seriousness
Bruh
That’s what I thought too
Lmao
hemlo gabepie
Hemlo
im home schooled
why do i get banned for 4 months for saying the title of a song but some 17 year old girl is allowed to sell her body in chat.
Well thats a great message to start with
You could try taking that up with mods instead of public chat


true
how i new
There's a mod mail in the rules you can contact


whalppyyyy
Who’s furn should I do first Emilia or Tamrus

Meanwhile tamrus jumping into the middle of the enemy team like a gremlin getting one shot
i swapped shemira a while ago. is there any purpose in reascending her or can i use her as fodder now?
does it for sure give rc levels back? i don't think my cap went down when i swapped
i'm assuming theyre talking about in game, cause uhh that's definitely not allowed


Of course not, you swapped
Gotta make her again and get the +5 again
anyone who actually uses public chat in game is sus to me
not surprised
Or just be an old f2p and have basically every 4F done
i also need e60 olgath

So Emilia or Tamrus?
Emilia > tamrus
tamrus
Tamrus gets off what he needs most the time before death anyways
Mugu has to build an audience for frame events
Meh it works
I’m confused lemme get a vote 💀

Babelinda
damn even ai can’t fix liliths lazy design
Whats the lore on Belindas hair turning white
stress
Also we need a one piece cross over soon

Makes sense 
eyes inspired from oshi no ko
#FFBF00 to #FFFFFF
@wanton niche would u say get Emilia 9 or Tamrus 9 first
Do my wife next lucretia
Tamrus
tam.
I can do that
Who touch me
Yeah it occurred to me after the fact
tamrus 9f is a must otherwise might not use him as well if he doesnt have 9f


My 10 seconds of fame
Got it Tamrus then only need 2f
oshi no ko
Pog
Will i make it as a f2p?
If you are a super new player you have a solid chance
Otherwise no
I'd also recommend buying Emilia if possible
Playing for 1 month
Otherwise you're future progression is kinda doomed
Damn im 60lvl below you with same dmg
I see why they call it the scam gazer 
U just have to rely on pity
And luck
Anyone know how good she is yet?

Anyone wanna team up for dismal lab ?
Do u have room in ur team ?
You’ll have to message next round if you still need someone
So is it too late to team up now
Yeah, I’ve already cleared it
Damn
MOTHER FCKR
I spent around 900 SG cards for 16copies of CRUKE
how is that FAIR

20k more

There’s been a change in the order, my muscle memory is shot
but of course her royal highness, queen of the whales, incognito troll of the realm, grower of the lopsided big tree, sovereign of the nightmare corridor, the glorious workaholic, memelord of the galaxy, purveyor of the jaundice looking boxes, lambaster of eluard, execrator of thali, despiser of flora, abominator of isabella, illwisher of satrana, rusher of HoE, hoarder of AE ham, connoisseur of musical chairs, lady hythlo is always fair

real reason im behind in investment
20% F2P
10% too much hoarding
70% UNLUCKY
mines just 100% salty

even my awaken hero rates are like 500+ for 12copies
Bitter disappointment
so MALD
i mean 1 per 500 is the norms if you consider 2%

im tempting to use my sg but nah
Lmao
deserve beach
shhh


use it po. then you can... put tank in mall
Fucking crying

nope. pretty sure ill have 0% rates there
everyday go drinking with you, wont even open game

THIS is so untrue
doesn't work for me
how about this we will use our sg but everytime we dont get a hero = take one shot
report Peach
I'd die
Send good rates my way,
Doesn't matter for my tr now, some dude did 800b with rem XD
Whale
Such a gap too
Meh not even 309e60
He did that w rem?
Free too poor shit
My rem otw to e60
Yep, here's his lineup XD
Just insane rates
I jus got swolise done have to save
My teams r better then his wtf! Y can’t I hit that hard
My tr floor is only 532 so...
look at our fabled 

Can someone tell me if this lineup is good including all hero item/furniture etc
why cant they make atahlia's si her doll aaaaa
no
just no
4 Lv 1 Heroes? Sounds like a gud situation to pop in a Lucretia 
Can u tell me wht the problem is pls?
it's much better to just stick with a campaign loadout
something like thoran daimon front, fera oden silas back
Close to having ascended Lucretia
gwyn, gwyn is the problem
@languid cedar yo can i have talene please ?
Wow. New cele good.
Ah a challenge account run huh
Sent
this ui for the bountaful trials is weird
Anyone got the new Cele gigamaxed I can borrrow
isn’t that what trial heroes are
i know it’s super new but it seems to me like daemia is gonna be high on the celhypo priority list
10/12 abel on 185 summons 

imma eat 10 mango peach pies
ok, ur not the problem

i’m just a silly guy!
Yes
Ah a man of culture

That’s more digits than i have ever seen in this game, wtf
Should be more soon.
Gotta wait for more chasmic.
You check the furthest multi?
No one can start that
Nobody is over 101b?
Not even clear for 30 bro
Soka
Did they make 58
1416 is -60 enemy level and we were at 1407 enemy level before Daemia
No
Is that what the difficulty adjustment is when they go live with the new chapter?
They dont jump this hard
Overtune the latest chapter to go back and detune when a new one is available.
strats
Its just the gate is abnormally high
Right now everyone is sitting at the gate
Yea
That a max pet?
Yeah
RIP
Krakens
Bro i been f2p since ydyay
It's like second virginity.
Steuggle forreal fr
Donate red cores
😭
Steuggle
Sexy athane
Donate red cores for rem
See u don’t need the cores gimme
No

U making of my 3rd language bro
Wat kinda krakens r u😡
Wait till I speak my 4th @frank narwhal
Just very old player with moderate to heavy whaling periods.
I replied to that person w my athane I’m asking the krakens to find my baelinda
In a moderate period now.
Fund*
Can u whale one hero for me🥺
My b
Idk whats in it for me i like over easy and reach arounds personnally
I’ll be ur best friend
Kraken
Deal

Trade u athanes

Damn thats crazy
Well im f2p....so i kinda dont whale 
Trade me accounts for this next abex

Damn krakens gimme a break😭
Flaw 
You know how when people act normal you act normal and when people are being weird it's flex time?
See vip 1
Am I being weird is that why it's time
Посмотри на меня сука
Idk what that means
In soviet russia road forks you
Its time isnt it
You're good
I'm scared
I am??? 
Sí, estas bien
@sly gorge https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/1116237480698593310/Polish_20230608_012902763.jpg see vip 1 so totally f2p
Guinea pig?
It was suppose to link 
Yo tengo porco en los pantalones. Es muy muy grande.
Puta gorda de mierda
Omellette Au Fromage
Press x to doubt
Sexc

Fund my baelinda🙏🏽
Je n'aime pas son visage

She’s alrdy at mythic jus do the rest for me😫
Im poor white trash living in the streets of Chicago, broken down by the man.
Yep lol
That lucretia 
Wym?
I am that’s y u should fund the heros for me
Shame
SHAME

Should work 3 jobs like the rest of us.
I’m in the process of starting a company I’m broke atm 
If your lucy doesn't look like that you get 0 help from me.
Do a whale friend a favor and jus gimme the copies 😡
I photoshopped mine to look weaker so I don’t intimidate the others
Paying off my vacation rn. No room in the budget.
Preciate it anyways🙏🏽😫

Can u guys help me w sum teams?
Probably not but I can pretend to help.
Well my roster is up there I jus need help w scramble teams
Working ona swolise team idk wat to do tho
Wdym?
But that was ages ago.
Oh sum1 who makes u teams
Correct
Can he help me w teams?

This will change however
Need a place for Daemia still
I don't have a 7 team screenshot so no idea what those teams are supposed to be.
Brutus better than Mulan for Remilia?🤔

Idk haven't fiddled with it.
Considering you're a Mulan simp excuse me if I don't take your question very seriously.
















