classic-chat

[safe panther]

Why don't we have lvl 3 resonance? 3x pets at level 3.

[wet hedge]

still mostly relevant as new player meta hasn't really changed

[wet hedge]

because it takes around 5 minutes to get lv 6 rc

[safe panther]

Could be neat for newer players however.

[nova bone]

Ah ok. Guess ill save my resources then I dont have any of the top 6 target heroes for engraving at ascended

[wet hedge]

ye

[glad breach]

Engrave Metriya

[wet hedge]

there's enough high prio ones that it'll last you a long time

and also

ainz is dead

I think ainz e41 is justifable

[glad breach]

Ainz is so 2021

[wet hedge]

e60 is ridiculous

[safe panther]

I'm working on e80 Aw.Brutus. Maybe take him to 5 stars.

Being a simp for the awakened lion DILF.

[glad breach]

Smh

Baelinda Metriya better

[safe panther]

I don't have a copy of Aw.Maetria.

[glad breach]

No Brutus

[wanton niche]

The effort to create and maintain such a list is high while the returns are 0

[nova bone]

Are belinda and maetria the ones I should prioritize? I currently have a copy of asolise, abelinda, maetria, and atalene and am trying to decide which to go for more copies of

[glad breach]

Yeah so you plan to 5 star Brutus instead of working towards Metriya

[safe panther]

I'm timegazing Aw.Belinda.

[wanton niche]

Good plan

[safe panther]

9/12 copies so far.

[glad breach]

Baelinda 5* over Brutus

[wet hedge]

wait but reddit karma

[nova bone]

I wasnt sure if belinda or solise was the best to gaze copies for

[glad breach]

Clout OP

[wanton niche]

What is that? Some kinda drugs you kids are into these days?

[safe panther]

I'm taking her off the timegazer wishlist to go for Aw.Solise, after I ascend her.

[wet hedge]

but generally speaking

if a guide is severely outdated (to the point that following it is undeniably detrimental to progression)

our community will update it

otherwise, assume that it still applies

[wanton niche]

Ehhhhh

Not many left to do the updating tbh

[wet hedge]

I bring things up to Nerds

[glad breach]

None of the blue names here make guides anymore.

[wanton niche]

Gotta support the people who do it

[wet hedge]

hey I made a guide last week

[glad breach]

Bring back @lime plaza

[wanton niche]

Grats

[wet hedge]

bob made a guide yesterday

[wanton niche]

I haven’t seen it, what was it about?

[glad breach]

Trift guide?

[wet hedge]

no that was bob

[wanton niche]

Bob got eaten alive for being actually helpful

[wet hedge]

rerolling

[glad breach]

Nightmare?

[wanton niche]

[wet hedge]

just some early game faq stuff

honestly a problem that is far too common

[wanton niche]

Yeah

All the starter stuff has been really outdated by now

It’s overdue

[wet hedge]

but then again

early game meta is super stagnant

requirements for meta change include:

[glad breach]

Does earlygame meta really matter?

[wet hedge]

well obviously a massively broken hero

but it also has to be 1. 4f (such that it's cheap enough to actually build)

[wanton niche]

Before awakened? I might say no

[glad breach]

Isn't there a lategame hero we can recommend instead of Daimon?

[wanton niche]

But now with awakened? It might actually make sense to reroll for lucky awakened pull

[wet hedge]

2. works decently enough at low investment (e.g. +20) such that people can actualy afford to use them

[slender tapir]

can l abelinda actually carry you as far as daimon does though

[wet hedge]

3. OP enough that it outweighs copying replays/asking for advice from older players who know how to use the older heroes

and 4. Simple enough that plonk + macro should be able to perform super well

[nova bone]

How do engraving levels work? Like with Thoran he is recomended to be e11, what does that mean, how do you tell which upgrades to do?

[wet hedge]

meeting all 4 requirements at once is so ridiculously hard that meta simply does not change much anymore

[clever dagger]

90% of the replays for early chapters are literally Daimon + Brutus with nobody else lmao

[wet hedge]

I think the most recent hero that meets all 4 is probably crassio

but then it's like no one has really tested him, so don't feel comfortable giving advice

[nova bone]

Ohhhh wait Im figuring out how the engravings work kinda now

[wanton niche]

Engraving Thoran

Is something you do in Chap 46

Or never

[nova bone]

e11 is such a small investment though is it not?

[wet hedge]

who the heck engraves thoran in ch46

[spare wolf]

i just wouldnt bother at this point

[clever dagger]

I made him e11 but tbh not sure if it made any difference or not lmao

[wanton niche]

I would never bother at all

[wet hedge]

I think it's more like engrave thoran by ch51

or never

[nova bone]

fair guess i wont mess with it then

[spare wolf]

the benefit is so small for only 1 mode, its pointless

he works fine without it

[wet hedge]

but then for modern players who the heck doesn't have abel at ch51

[nova bone]

i just got him to ascended today so im gonna have to learn how to incorporate him into my comps

[wet hedge]

unless it's me and zod

[wanton niche]

And it’s not even a challenging mode tbh. Levels let you clear campaign easy.

[maiden terrace]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/m5wji8/a_comprehensive_guide_to_thoran_cheese_even_for/

[clever dagger]

campaign is literally just test of patience

[nova bone]

Thank you omg

[wet hedge]

[wanton niche]

But … it’s a novel

[wet hedge]

I don't actually agree with pp there

it's more like

[wanton niche]

A bold choice

[wet hedge]

thoran can be a pretty heavy rng comp

[fresh oriole]

i got this guy on my first few spin is he good?

[wet hedge]

but so is literally every other comp in the game

ok maybe not abelinda

every comp that's not abelinda in the game

[spare wolf]

true

[glad breach]

Yes

[spare wolf]

should have considered abelinda in this 2 year old guide

[fresh oriole]

like for early game?

[spare wolf]

[wet hedge]

mhm

[slender tapir]

no probably not

[wet hedge]

@dusk pebble you failed

[nova bone]

i mean

i have abelinda but she's L

so like she only gets me so far

[wet hedge]

no

actually she gets you very stupidly far

[fresh oriole]

oh ok

[nova bone]

how best to use her

[kind vessel]

When pushing revolves around spamming auto until it works at min reqs then yeah of course everything's going to be heavy rng

[wet hedge]

I mean

if you're not pushing hard

why bother with thoran

[nova bone]

i can tell she has insane dps but im not good at minmaxing or creating my own comps yet, this game has a steep learning curve and i read up when i can and stuff but got a ways to go

[wet hedge]

why bother making any optimal comp

just slap on and go

[nova bone]

im pushing hard rn im trying to get through as much of campaign as possible rn

[kind vessel]

If your rc def isn't big enough Thoran is even more painful

[nova bone]

at least until i get to 36 or 37 im on 33 rn

[wet hedge]

the reason why her dps is insane is kinda weird

[peak ledge]

[nova bone]

what's rc again?

[kind vessel]

Resonating crystal

[wet hedge]

it's mainly because def break interacts in a rather OP way with the effective damage formula

[nova bone]

ah

my RC is at 355 rn

[glad breach]

Idk

[wet hedge]

so you're essentially dealing like 10-20x more damage than the skill multipliers say at defiict

[nova bone]

and im on 33-12, probably could beat it just havent yet

[kind vessel]

Rc def = deficit between your lvl and enemy

[wet hedge]

but at deficit is a key point

[nova bone]

Deficit for me rn is around 40 or so

[maiden terrace]

i just finsihed that stage yesterday

[wet hedge]

if you're pushing at like sub 100 she won't feel that OP

[maiden terrace]

nightmare having to make 3 teams

[kind vessel]

Thoran really wants like 150+ deficit

[wet hedge]

she's similar to thoran in that she's op because she scales with deficit

[nova bone]

I figured. Oh well. I got him to ascended because the other good GBs i have at L or L+ right now so I finished him first

[wanton niche]

Rem does too, if you can keep her dumb ass alive

[eternal bronze]

I'd say 180

[wet hedge]

just push at 200 surplus

[wanton niche]

She hates life though

[wet hedge]

[nova bone]

I dont have Rem rn ill exchange for her, I bought Em though

[glad breach]

I would recommend Metriya as the first A hero. 💳

[wanton niche]

I’m at 350+ on 3 accts

[wet hedge]

350 surplus?

[prime isle]

costco

[wanton niche]

[maiden terrace]

can i see your box?

[nova bone]

Like my heroes?

[maiden terrace]

ye

[nova bone]

Im trying to upload a ss of it but discord is saying its explicit and not letting me for some reason

so gimme a sec im trying lol

[glad breach]

Draw a dick on it in red blue or black.

Discord will accept it.

[wet hedge]

I mean its true

[wanton niche]

Funny but true yeah

[glad breach]

[wet hedge]

I recommend applying a filter or just drawing lines instead

if you don't want @spare wolf to excommunicate you from the planet

[spare wolf]

[nova bone]

FINALLY

Dont flay me

I made questionable decisions when originally playing

[slender tapir]

[nova bone]

My return is me trying to fix stuff

[wet hedge]

lol

[nova bone]

I also have a swap scroll, have for eons but have never used it because I want to use it optimally

[wet hedge]

save it

for the next few eons

[nova bone]

I figured

[wet hedge]

well actually

[nova bone]

Whats best use scenario for swap scroll

[wet hedge]

I guess lucius and belinda could go

[nova bone]

and can you use it on awakened heroes

[wet hedge]

honestly

I hate to say this

[nova bone]

yeah i guess lucius fell off HARD didnt he

[wet hedge]

but you should check out =rerolling in #classic-questions

[nova bone]

im not resetting

[wet hedge]

ok

[nova bone]

already established that the other night

[wet hedge]

that's fine

[maiden terrace]

yeah i built lucius and someone said to swap scroll to mishka, best decision

[wet hedge]

if you don't want to reset

[nova bone]

yeah im not trying to be ultra competitive or anything i just want to make progress

[wet hedge]

you should start cramming

[maiden terrace]

lucius just op early game

[wet hedge]

no joke

[nova bone]

what's cramming

[wanton niche]

Finish the heroes you started

[slender tapir]

the problem is by not being competitive you make almost no progress

[wanton niche]

And focus on leveling

[nova bone]

im competitive just not super competitive

[nova bone]

like i wanna be able to hold my own but im never gonna care about top percentages or anything

[wet hedge]

.

[glad breach]

I RC cram

[nova bone]

Cramming is basically what im doing right now

[spare wolf]

can we go back in time and call it something other than cramming

[wet hedge]

blame koyu

[glad breach]

Fr through 200 Dia price daily.

[spare wolf]

there has to be a better word

[wanton niche]

The worst term that won’t go away

Push Levels, Focus Levels, Leveling

[wet hedge]

I mean he started doing it

[wanton niche]

If you have to explain it, the term isn’t working

[wet hedge]

so it makes sense that he coins it

[glad breach]

Koyu crammed so hard that he capped his RC because he didn't have enough A heroes.

[wanton niche]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857329415330725906/1034158501192286238/991702010514636881.gif

[nova bone]

I went through like 50k gems today will probably buy another 45k. Advancement rewards are big pog investment for 20 bucks

[wet hedge]

something to note though

is that it serves as jargon

in that it's not ambiguous what you mean

[wanton niche]

That makes it worse

[glad breach]

Koyu was also the original budget Mehira.

[wet hedge]

if you just said leveling

[nova bone]

Im not a big spender on this game but insane value deals like all the advancements rewards and dimensionals for $15 ill buy

[wanton niche]

Jargon requires a dictionary

[wet hedge]

people might confuse that as just leveling their heroes

[wanton niche]

The explaining of cramming is “Using all your diamonds for leveling”. In every other game this would just be Power Leveling

But afk likes to reinvent the same words again

For whatever reasons

[wet hedge]

power leveling makes sense

I like that

[glad breach]

I also like cramming

[wet hedge]

cramming sounds unique

[glad breach]

[nova bone]

how? Who levels heroes after you get RC anyways

[spare wolf]

it sounds weird

[prime isle]

crumbging

[spare wolf]

[wanton niche]

It doesn’t mean what they’re using it to mean either

[slender tapir]

cramming just makes me think of those asian schools where they study like 18 hours a day

[wet hedge]

aight here's the 10k word version https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/nc5dty/afk_endgame_theory_mechanics_v102_based_on_159/

[prime isle]

dust collecting

[spare wolf]

downvoted

[nova bone]

im a big reader so big guides dont bother me

im here for the best resources i can get

[glad breach]

My account collecting dust rn.

4 levels to go.

[wet hedge]

I recommend you read bob's documentary of the motion of all particles in the observable universe

[lime blaze]

guys i think i progressed so fast to chapter 33 i barely have any built 1 team

[wanton niche]

Grats

[lime blaze]

can someone give me 3 teams from this deck

[wanton niche]

I prefer short, one page references. Stuff like this always feels so demanding on your time.

[glad breach]

The boxes people have in ch33 these days

[wanton niche]

It feels academic

[maiden terrace]

We have like the same box

[glad breach]

Bro don't feed you daimon anymore resources.

[wet hedge]

brb

[lime blaze]

nah u clearly did a better job 😭

[glad breach]

You too

[maiden terrace]

yeah i have stopped

[languid cedar]

One-shot charming drez, what is this?

[glad breach]

Those daimons are overbuilt

[wet hedge]

[maiden terrace]

people explained that to me

he just hard carry at least one team

[wet hedge]

honestly in the modern game

[slender tapir]

only 100 fr? pfft

[wet hedge]

all your diamonds is like 5% of your resource income

[wanton niche]

Bro same

[wet hedge]

[glad breach]

Smh you got 80 floors to go.

[maiden terrace]

haha

[lime blaze]

as a matter of fact i never seen a guide till i was like chapter 28 😭😭😭 big mistake

[wanton niche]

I pinned my own short version to my discord lol

[wet hedge]

nice

ok ping in here too

[languid cedar]

807b smh

[glad breach]

Cero smol

[languid cedar]

[nova bone]

damn noob moment for me i was not aware you could reroll bounty board, ive never noticed that lol

[languid cedar]

Thoran

[lime blaze]

should i remove him from the wishlist?

[glad breach]

Yes

[lime blaze]

ahhhhh WTFFFF

[slender tapir]

I've been using the 200 fr for like 4 chapters now

[wanton niche]

I need 4 more copies for pet reso 18

Send help

That’s like $100 or less

[glad breach]

At this moment your goal is to get as many heroes as possible. So you should remove things from WL at 1*

[languid cedar]

Gogogo! Do it

[glad breach]

Unless heroes you won't ever engrave

[wanton niche]

I stick to my budget though

[glad breach]

Like Luscious

[wanton niche]

It would be so easy not to

🫠

[lime blaze]

yess

[languid cedar]

Ish like this makes KT miserable

[nova bone]

Well, I wonder what hero I should swap then since Lucius and Belinda are kinda trash now and I have them both at 5 stars from my past days of playing lmao

[lime blaze]

my current wishlist

ill remove rowan and scarlet

[languid cedar]

More willpower than me

[lime blaze]

they just need 1 more copy for 1star

[glad breach]

Geralt OP

[safe panther]

Hopefully chapter 57 will get engraved enemies...

[sweet ridge]

Anyone tried Mortas on the frontline in a comp with some healing? Can he survive there at all?

[wet hedge]

I'd argue against that tbh

[glad breach]

@spare wolf

[wet hedge]

having a bunch of off-meta heroes is officially useless now

lilith stopped doing reworks

and there's no way new players are hitting any kind of cap that requires ascensions without spending

[zealous mulch]

Get them

[wet hedge]

well okay HCP cap

[nova bone]

also what is the ideal wishlist? And do you take them off after 1* or nah

[wet hedge]

but I'd just star up heroes that matter

[nova bone]

Ive seen an ungodly amount of wishlists so idek whats the best these days

[wet hedge]

over building heroes that don't

[wanton niche]

I take them off after 1* if they need engravings

[glad breach]

This guy is in ch33 and has less than 3 teams of A.

[wet hedge]

yes

but at the same time

how many heroes are actually meta

I feel like <30 4f actually need to be built

[wanton niche]

In all game modes? A surprisingly small list

[wet hedge]

that average to not a lot of hero swapouts

[wanton niche]

Awakened dims and chads did that

[wet hedge]

ye

[wanton niche]

I’d hate to be starting right now

[wet hedge]

like the default list is 20 heroes big

[wanton niche]

Missing all those dims during exchange when they were cheap sucks

[wet hedge]

that covers almost all the meta heroes

so just 5* them

power issues exist I agree

[nova bone]

the few dims i have that i got essentially for free is part of why i dont want to reset

[wet hedge]

but CR doesnt really exist for new players

[nova bone]

i dont want more stuff to have to garrison later on

[wet hedge]

so it's kinda meh

[wet hedge]

I mean

[nova bone]

also like when should i start garrisoning cuz I havent even messed with it yet

[wet hedge]

who do they actually need to build though

ainz?

ezio?

[wise axle]

Albedo

[wet hedge]

albedo sure

[wanton niche]

Albedo, Yen, Leo

[lime blaze]

is ainz bad ? 💀

[wanton niche]

Joan too

[lime blaze]

cuz hes most invested

[wet hedge]

he's not doing too hot atm

[wise axle]

Leo isnt from garrison

O u just mean store

[wet hedge]

and is cooling down more and more

[wanton niche]

I just meant when they were cheap

[lime blaze]

his at 20946 rn

[wet hedge]

I guess

[wise axle]

Unlucky

[wet hedge]

I mean

it's not detrimental by any means

just means they can't ascend wukong

and less dim +30s

[wise axle]

What about chally store dims

[wanton niche]

Let’s see, which ones would I say you need today

[wise axle]

[lime blaze]

so like do i stop investment on him ?

[wet hedge]

but then if they skip a lot of the dims it balances out

[wet hedge]

I think it depends on the player spending level

but for me

dims that I actually really really need

probably queen, albedo, LDV, merlin

uh

[wanton niche]

Emilia Rem Yen Joan Albedo Leo Mulan Queen Merlin.

Baba, Ezio, Geralt nice to haves,

Man

That’s rough

[wet hedge]

mulan

forgot her

[wise axle]

Lol

[wet hedge]

well you can still get the newer ones

so I didn't include that

[wise axle]

Ukyo Nakoruru

[wanton niche]

Yeah, and that’s nice, but it’s so cheap during exchange

[wet hedge]

I guess ezio, joan, yenn help with TS

[lime blaze]

my plan was since i have daimon nd lucy so like i got 2 teams i can just slap whtever with diamon nd lucy too i dont think i need 5pull yet but im starting to notice the need for it rn im working on joan and merlon nd im getting my albedo to 30 since shes 25 si thats my plan for a 3rd team

[wanton niche]

And you don’t have to touch challenger at all for single dim exchange

[wet hedge]

but like

do you really really need them else your account fails?

eh....

[glad breach]

Ezio is optional

[slender tapir]

I'm gonna have to use so many chally coins for this exchange since I'm really lacking hero coins

[wise axle]

Putting so many good dims in challenger store was a fked up move by lilith

[lime blaze]

lucy 5pull

[wise axle]

Toxic af

[wet hedge]

it was

zolrath is practically an sg hero now

literally trolling

[lime blaze]

wht do u guys think

sry i suck at english i should prolly stop skipping classes 💀

[wanton niche]

For competitive weekly modes they’re important. Depends on what you mean by failing, but it certainly wouldn’t be succeeding without them.

[wet hedge]

I dont' think you suck at english, but you should probably stop skipping classes

[wet hedge]

I mean

Trift is not competitive anymore

CR is practically non-existent for new players

that leaves NC and TS

[glad breach]

TS

[wet hedge]

NC... you can do without top ranking

[glad breach]

[wanton niche]

TS, CR, NC

[wet hedge]

like it's a trivial increase

[wanton niche]

Not really

[wise axle]

Nc more for the coins isnt it

[wet hedge]

not having them will not make or break your account

[wise axle]

Not ranking related

[wanton niche]

I steadily worked my F2P alt up to 22% in CR

[slender tapir]

I can't even get legend in cr or nc

[wanton niche]

With zero awakened

And no pets

[wet hedge]

that's actually impressive

[lime blaze]

guys do u think i should proceed with this plan or find another way

[wise axle]

Seems fine

[wet hedge]

I don't know if you can assume the same for new players though

[wanton niche]

It’s doable, but you build to the old meta

[wise axle]

But whos gonna be ur carry for that team

Rem emilia?

[wet hedge]

like sure, if they're an 4 year veteran restarting f2p

[wanton niche]

NC and TS are regional. It’s worth clearing NC quests for sure.

Same for CR quests

[wet hedge]

if they are actually new?

eh

[wanton niche]

They gotta start somewhere

[wet hedge]

oh quests

forgot those were a thing

[wanton niche]

They help push you in the right direction

[wise axle]

Questss

[wanton niche]

And many good CR heroes also work in NC

[wet hedge]

I think optimizing campaign for faster misty clear might be more important though

[wanton niche]

And sort of in TS

41 is pretty easy though

[wet hedge]

true

[wanton niche]

Specially post chasmic

[wet hedge]

chasmic has level nerf caps though

so it won't be that easy

[wanton niche]

Yeah, 41 is max capped already

[wet hedge]

dang

should have capped it at lv 50

[wanton niche]

It’s max capped into 44 or so atm, maybe more

[wet hedge]

pushing at max capped must be nice

[wanton niche]

Kinda funny seeing enemies over 100 levels lower now lol

[wet hedge]

well I guess they won't feel it

but they can see how fast they progress compared to older players

which is pretty encouraging I assume

[glad breach]

Back in my day we had 4 A celepos by ch31.

[slender tapir]

[wet hedge]

noone is basically prehistoric at this point

[lime blaze]

guys at ch33 what hero should i prioritize with teir4 gear ?

[wanton niche]

I had maybe one by then o think

[lime blaze]

tier'

[wanton niche]

And it was Wu

Maybe

Lemme check the tape

[nova bone]

this game is so complex my god

[wet hedge]

it is

[nova bone]

so much crap to do so many heroes

so much grind

[wet hedge]

well it's not if you don't want to optimize

[lime blaze]

also guys do u think its worth building wu for potential swap next year ?

[wet hedge]

it just happened that there was a lot of tryhards in this game's community

[nova bone]

well i do want to optimize and trying to learn everything for that is a slow and nightmarish process

[wanton niche]

Nope

[glad breach]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609275505526439974/771848627420659712/Screenshot_20200628-113009_AFK_Arena.jpg

[wanton niche]

I had M twins when I cleared 31-60

That’s it

[wanton niche]

Overleveled smh

[glad breach]

So old I only had that HoE frame.

90 deficit OP

[lime blaze]

guys wht are the overall pool of hero i need to have their furniture

[wanton niche]

I rendered this at the wrong resolution 🥶

https://youtu.be/54TzKaBgPi0

Rookie mistake

[glad breach]

[lime blaze]

guys is there a way to change ur apprentice?

mine never done them

his afk

too afk 😭

[nova bone]

i still dont have an apprentice or a mentor i should get that figured out

[lime blaze]

can u choose between being a mentor or an apprentice?

[covert relic]

Anyone know the fabled realm requirement?

[lime blaze]

cuz i heard being apprentice gives more lab coins

i wanna buy rem so bad butttttr

🥲

[slender tapir]

I'm staying strong and not buying the anime girls

[lime blaze]

i never had this issue only recently

[slender tapir]

just gonna slow my merlin down a lot

[glad breach]

Google dumb policy shit

[lime blaze]

is there i way to bypass it ?

also can i make it in time ?

[glad breach]

Make a new balance for whatever region you're in.

[nova bone]

You have to wait until exchange time to exchange

[lime blaze]

use tho thats a 500€ card 🥲

so close yet so far away

[glad breach]

I wonder if you can VPN there.

[lime blaze]

at first i wasnt able to redeem the code even after making the balance in france after vpn i was able to redeem it but cant buy on playstore and afk

i think i might need a pc

[glad breach]

🤔

[lime blaze]

like to vpn the whole device in BlueStacks

[glad breach]

Idk

Too techie for me I play with hardware.

Network shit meh

[lime blaze]

i wanna ask the afk devs abt it but im scared they might ban me smh 🥲

Google fr going downhill

[glad breach]

It's a Google issue not an AFK issue

[lime blaze]

yes tbh why did they even let me redeem it 😾😾😾

[glad breach]

Idk

[gloomy loom]

The new awakened is Athalia fr?

[glad breach]

Rumours

[gloomy loom]

I see

[lime blaze]

also guys how does an f2p build awakened heroes at 33

whts my approach

do i star gazing for them after i get alna to ascended?

so far i have 1 solis 2 belinda q thane and the chest

[nova bone]

Awakened heroes are in temple of time not in stargazing

[lime blaze]

tho like cant u star gaze for them at some point?

can i make it in tame for lab coins?

[nova bone]

i dont believe so time cards for temple of time and then a 0.1% chance of pulling them out of normal tavern draws is the only way to naturally get awakened heroes

Just save as many lab coins as you can

I think the average is like 50k a month or something

So by the time you are able to exchange you should have 60-70k or so

[lime blaze]

🥲

ill need 200k no ?

yall got anyone trust worthy who lives in france ? 😭

[nova bone]

Yeah its a LOT of lab coins i always keep a back stock of them for dims

[lime blaze]

how do u build si then dont u need to buy them ?

[stable schooner]

which should I pick?

[nova bone]

Under any and all circumstances never pick faction scrolls out of those chests

Always pick a hero. As for which one, Im not really an expert on that.

Nara is probably the most useful out of those but I would wait for a second or third opinion rather than just listening to me lol

[lime blaze]

may say is if u dont have a copy of nara pick her up if u do take scrolls

[nova bone]

no

never take scrolls

You aren't guaranteed an elite hero if you pick scrolls

[lime blaze]

is elite worth more than scrolls ?

actually ya dont 💀

[nova bone]

Yeah because if you use 10 scrolls and get 5 commons and 5 rares out of it you wasted your choice chest :((

[stable schooner]

since I don't have nara should I pick her up?

[nova bone]

Out of those Id take her, out of the four heroes in that chest ive been using her a lot more lately

But again i am not an expert, some of the old players on here with more experience might have a different opinion

[stable schooner]

aight thanks

[lime blaze]

so for future play i should always let my lab coins get to max and then when they locked i buy emblems incase dim come ?

thats the only way i see it

[nova bone]

technically you can spend your lab coins however you want most of the time, but as soon as new dims are announced immediately start saving.

Though, if you want both dims in exchange youll have to have even more saved up

[lime blaze]

whts the average time dims gets announced cuz i dont think a week or two will make that difference

actually

there is an event were u get more lab coins ya ?

when will it come

i missed the one that was up recently 🥲

[nova bone]

Ive only returned to playing afk arena for like a week, i was gone for almost a year, so idk about the timespan between events or dim announcements and such

[candid orbit]

restarted in new server?

[nova bone]

Though from what ive seen it appears that these days dims are released in pairs and seem to be realeased twice a year

[nova bone]

nope. went back to my old account

[candid orbit]

I see

[nova bone]

i know that for being competitive a new account might be the best but eh. i might start an alt account some day but i like my old account and have a lot of time invested in it

[candid orbit]

I feel you

[nova bone]

and a small amount of money too

im no whale but ive probably spent $100-150 on afk over the last 3-4 years

so ig id be classified as a dolphin

[candid orbit]

dolphin, battle pass? 😄

[candid orbit]

ah yes i see

[nova bone]

i do be on that trials of god grind now

[kind vessel]

Back in the day, ToG was saurus cycle then ezio cycle

[nova bone]

im pretty much doing saurus cycle rn lol

i cant find any recent guides on it and saurus is what ive seen works well and is working for me

[kind vessel]

Ainz dims also made a bunch free after he was released around the last few tog

[nova bone]

yeahhh

i dont have ainz though and i havent started garrisoning yet so thats not an option for me right now

I actually dont even know how garrisons work gonna figure that out next. I just havent looked at it yet im sure it isnt that complicated

[kind vessel]

Tl;dr spend coins to buy garrison coins, rent dim for 1 month with garrison coins, after 6 garrisons they're perma free (but require rehiring)

[nova bone]

Ohhhh that's cool

But like, regular coins for garrison coins?

[kind vessel]

And usually you only use guild/hero coins to buy garrison

[nova bone]

Ohhh

[kind vessel]

It's the same coins as dim exchange

[nova bone]

i figured it wasnt normal coins lol

[kind vessel]

Limited per month

[nova bone]

Ah i get ya

[idle sky]

all those lab coins
Questionable amount of time
Fuck.

[nova bone]

I might wait then Im saving for rem exchange

[idle sky]

I'm going for both tbh

[kind vessel]

Def save for current exchanges before garrison

[nova bone]

I bought em for $15

[idle sky]

I'm not gonna abandon Promo Dims again

[nova bone]

Yeah Im still sad I didnt get ainz or albedo but I took a short break during that time and didnt have enough time to get enough coins for exchange

[kind vessel]

Garrison can be technically cheaper with guild coins only but it's extremely slow and a huge wait before they're added so it's a huge downside

[idle sky]

I only regret missing Jennifer and Gerald

Everyone else is salvageable

[nova bone]

Jennifer and Geralt I wasnt even around for

Was gone for almost a year, came back last week

[idle sky]

I abandoned the game when they, ABaden, and the green milf chick came out

Too much heroes, oh and Veithael I think too

🤮💀

It was a damn hero festival

[nova bone]

yeah coming back to a ton of awakened heroes was wild

[idle sky]

Well, an awakened, a celestial, a Wilder, and 2 promo dims you can't hope to get.

||I was a broke bitch at the time||

Anyway ABaden is surprisingly good tbh

He made the comeback very worthwhile.

[nova bone]

I was broke during ainz/albedo

Im not rich by any means but spending a little on the game here and there isnt an issue

Advancement rewards have been nice for me they added so many

And you cant beat 45k gems for $20

[polar wolf]

Guys how do I get a lot of the blue balls for leveling up

[idle sky]

EXP?

That's actually easy to get when you're past chapter 29.

[summer scarab]

2 more to go and +7 to go

[summer scarab]

events and grinding in general

[idle sky]

Such as being afk

[summer scarab]

^

that too

[polar wolf]

Okay

[summer scarab]

frl tho ima max out my queen

I need ta e100 her

n 2 more t4 stones

watch them release t5 as soon as I get all t4 LOL

[mystic mango]

@sage cove tried some variants, was maybe slightly better, but unfortunately not hugely so. My Rem r5 seems very very high RNG so didn’t line up with rng of other rounds often. Plus r4 never did well.

[lime plaza]

[wise fiber]

ngl that one was funny

bob asked like 3 times in guild for permission to make guide for public

and he got...that for his work

[nova knot]

hello

[pastel cave]

Wait

What happened? I missed it

Also, hello lily

[wise fiber]

nothing

just "f2p" complaining "old f2p are actually dolphins"

[pastel cave]

Oh lol

[wise fiber]

only new f2p are the REAL F2P ™️

[pastel cave]

Lmao

For real?

Poor bob

[winter latch]

Where's the guide

[wise fiber]

yeah the reddit post was extra stupid this time

pinned in #temporal-rift

[pastel cave]

Ooh trift

Bruh if you are new you won't be able to make 3 good teams anyways

[wise fiber]

also of course the REALF2P ™️ people completely ignored 98% of the guide and only looked at the one image in the post lol

[pastel cave]

Yeah I can imagine

[hollow nova]

Hello

[pastel cave]

See wokes, start reeee-ing

[wise fiber]

lmao i see you are also cultured

so easy to predict

[pastel cave]

[winter latch]

Holy shit this thread is dumb

There's a vip13 who can't even build bobs teams

[wise fiber]

extra pepega post

normally reddit has some dumb people but also an okay amount of voices of reasons

people just gave up on this post lol

or it brought out all the pepegas

[hollow nova]

[winter latch]

Bob too smart for f2p

So they consider him dolphin

My solution is don't play as a new f2p

You'll never be happy

[hollow nova]

Enhanced f2p

[wise fiber]

or instead of bringing down everyone to your level

maybe have reasonable expectations

[ember thunder]

[frank narwhal]

Impossible for afk reddit

[wise fiber]

sometimes there are reasonable discussions on reddit

this is not one of those

[frank narwhal]

Genuinely don't know how bob continues doing any of this shit

[clever portal]

Did some of you receive the extra rewards added on the rift?

[hollow nova]

No

[winter latch]

they changed it

Or changing it

[wise fiber]

look at your inventory

or something

idk i just click collect, i don't actually look at what i get until i need to invest lol

but people are saying stuff went to inventory

[wise fiber]

and he legit asked within guild multiple times because initially rift was ranked and not everyone want their findings shared

[clever portal]

They already did .. added extra rewards but haven't distributed it yet

[wise fiber]

pretty sure collect already gave you whatever reward is displayed

i didn't really look at first 100 floors i guess

[winter latch]

I didn't do rift so I wouldn't know

[wise fiber]

[frank narwhal]

Yeah that makes sense

[glad breach]

They were going to mail it within 5 business days.

[frank narwhal]

But now it's not so.

[wise fiber]

i think higher floors will less be about who pushes the fastest, but still, thank god lol

and obviously higher rewards

[glad breach]

Rankings are frame only now right?

[wise fiber]

well, grand hunt will probably still be the thing for frames

[winter latch]

There's no gh

[wise fiber]

we don't know if climb ranking will have meaning i think?

[wise fiber]

very likely to come back tho

[winter latch]

I could do without frames

Can't get any anyway

[wise fiber]

i mean sure, they miiiiiiight put frames in climb leaderboard, or just not have frames

but grand hunt was a pretty clear-cut way to separate current spenders from old whales to encourage active spending

current rift at least to this level does not have that yet and knowing lilith no way they don't want to emphasize that again

[lime blaze]

guys can someone explain what account migration is ? can it help me with this issue?

[west maple]

Hi, @lime blaze!

If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help

[wise fiber]

i mean, seems pretty obvious, your play balance is stuck in france

either move your device/spending location to france, or don't pay with play balance

[nova bone]

Yeah if you use paypal or a credit/debit card it should get around that

Otherwise you'll have to find a way to use a VPN to virtually set your phone's location to France

[wise fiber]

i think with google play you need to actually set it in google

and google store only allows limited amount of location change a year

[lime blaze]

i did cuz it redeemed it

but when i try i cant buy

[wise fiber]

i mean surely your location was in france at some point for it to be located there?

[lime blaze]

yepp

[wise fiber]

or your point card or whatever was brought in france

[fervent turret]

Whats the gift code for the 100 sumonns?

[wise fiber]

we didn't get that this year

[fervent turret]

Why is it still on the ad T-T

[lime blaze]

a vacation

ig ill use a debt card

tho maybe i should start a new acc no ?

[rancid garnet]

Its a fish

[nova bone]

by the way, how far can Daimon carry in campaign? Im working on getting him to ascended, and Im in Chapter 33 i wasnt sure if he was still really useful or not

[lime blaze]

cuz mine is like 2 years old

[wise fiber]

probably third party ad makerse

[nova knot]

who pinged me?

[lime blaze]

and i played for 5 months

[wise fiber]

about time to drop him

[wise fiber]

it's a sheep

[nova bone]

Im not gonna mess much with him then

He's at L+ right now

I made it through campaign with a full LB team back in the day lol

[wise fiber]

i mean he's still an okay hero, just not a carry

at that point

[rancid garnet]

I need to like, install my encoder software, so i can actually start streaming

[hollow nova]

Me

[wise fiber]

more of a tank support

[nova knot]

he can be still useful till like 40

[nova bone]

Yeah but it sounds like I should get like Silas and Grezhul up to ascended before Daimon then

[wise fiber]

streaming...what

[nova knot]

not that i play anymore

[nova bone]

They're all L+ rn

[wise fiber]

what do you need external encoding for

[nova knot]

i want to go back to playing but idk if i can

[wise fiber]

oh yeah, def lol

those have way more obvious uses

[rancid garnet]

Gameplay to twitch/YT

[wise fiber]

daimon is more backline support

[rancid garnet]

I need mah lunch moneh

[wise fiber]

OBS has never required me to install external encoding ._.

[nova bone]

To more experienced players, im still playing catchup from returning. The last time I played, Shemira, Lucius and Belinda were still pretty good lol

[rancid garnet]

As in i havent installed OBS yet

[wise fiber]

oh

[rancid garnet]

Or wutever it is i dled

[nova knot]

i havent played in 53 days

[rancid garnet]

Weather over here is h o t

[wise fiber]

sounds a bit doomed but good luck lol

[rancid garnet]

Like smh melting

[nova knot]

only like 2 months i think ill be fine if i come back to playing reg

[wise fiber]

what server is this

[rancid garnet]

Body cant regulate

[nova bone]

Well they weren't as good before I quit. To be honest. I should probably make an alt account or reroll but that sounds awful lol i dont want to do this all over again

[rancid garnet]

How's my crassio fish

[glad breach]

[wise fiber]

my new best fren

[rancid garnet]

Is 5☆309fe60 goodness actually doing sth

[lime blaze]

bro i just typed a long ass dialogue and linked it with my ss of acc and it cancelled it 😭😭😭

[wise fiber]

2~3 seconds increase over 1* 303e36 crassio in NC

[rancid garnet]

2-3 seconds only?

[wise fiber]

i mean

that's like 3% in region 4

which i'm not in

[rancid garnet]

[wise fiber]

but if i was, i would absolutely need that 3 seconds lol

[rancid garnet]

M O D

[rancid garnet]

Meanwhile, i can hardly kill a boss

Barely grabbed 10k for a twins

[wise fiber]

and i guess i would go from rank 86 to rank 99 in my own region

which isn't a lot but

my rank

[sullen leaf]

nice link im sure its fine to click....

[wise fiber]

crassio woketus kren drez, surely you can kill SOMETHING lol

oh wow actually no mods on lol

[rancid garnet]

Nope

[wise fiber]

no one to even ping xdd

[nova knot]

fish

is rem crucial?

[wise fiber]

why are you asking me this

do i look like a whale to you

[rancid garnet]

Need teams plz Fish

[nova knot]

cause idk

lmao

[sullen leaf]

some are probs hiding offline just ping moderator role

[nova knot]

i havent played in almost 2 months now

[wise fiber]

what are you using right now lol

[rancid garnet]

time to play daily again

Speedrun in 5mins go

[gilded sonnet]

Just hit chapter 16, am I supposed to stargaze for thw twins?

[wise fiber]

i mean if you really want i can maybe try to troubleshoot your NC with you

[sullen leaf]

[nova knot]

lucretia first or alna if your like me

[wise fiber]

lots of mauler carries doing alright there

[knotty edge]

fsh remember that time you got lost and ended up in taverns

[wise fiber]

that was scary

[knotty edge]

feels like it was just yesterday

[rancid garnet]

Lmao, am basically a mess, fish

Idek wut I'm doing

I just throw random BS n prayge it works

[pastel cave]

Oh

[frank narwhal]

[pastel cave]

Lily is baaaack

[wise fiber]

you have lucretia to some extent right?

[nova knot]

hey ago

could you help me get back into the game

[wise fiber]

just show box i guess lol

[nova knot]

i think im done with my break

[wise fiber]

actually i don't remember you there

[rancid garnet]

How many uploads allowed to be pasted at once now?

[pastel cave]

Sure

[wise fiber]

whatever discord accepts i guess lol

[hollow nova]

Lily ignore me

[wise fiber]

one single mod online but busy

oh rip

[rancid garnet]

[wise fiber]

i didn't know that was a thing

sorry xd

we could go to DMs too

[rancid garnet]

Go to NC channel i guess

[wise fiber]

oh there's a channel for this shit

[knotty edge]

i asked if you were happy about the new aquatic beast species

[wise fiber]

wait i got lost there twice

[summer scarab]

afk arena animation

🙏

lucretia

lore

fat w

[nova bone]

Best beast to use my secret spices on? I dont have very many beasts yet

[candid orbit]

hello guys 😄

[nova knot]

wut?

hmm?

[hollow nova]

I said hello to you

[nova knot]

im trying to do stuff rn i didnt even see

[rancid garnet]

705 scamtimegaze cards, and still waiting for AwaKhasos

[hollow nova]

Np

[nova knot]

ii have to catch up cause i couldnt find someone to play my account while i was taking a break

[glad breach]

Sawtrana next Mauler.

Priestess of the divine flames.

[rancid garnet]

[nova bone]

Would anyone be willing to help me figure out some TR teams? Im struggling with it lol

[west maple]

Hi, @nova bone!

If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help

[hollow nova]

Welcome back

[nova knot]

eh

its a little tidious

its going to be a pain to get comfortable and now im the same level as the average player in pvp for my server

i used to be top 5

[unique sky]

@quick latch u r in my top 5

[grand river]

I need 2 good teams for temporal rift

[nova bone]

Same lol

[ember thunder]

Awnty

Your name is shaman and you don't have a maxed numisu?

Lame

[prime isle]

Time to buy rem for 15$

[quick latch]

[grand river]

XD

[dusk pebble]

people still sharing my guide?

💀

that thing is so outdated

made it was i was ch 34

[wise fiber]

i see some mods on surely i won't get banned for this while modmail is down <@&545792117956673538> yo this is still there #classic-chat message

[glad breach]

@prime isle

[prime isle]

Damn that Geralt looking fine

[prime isle]

Ldv + emi + khazard = infinite cc?

[glad breach]

Yes

[prime isle]

Bruv I can't decide who to buy with 15$

Misty said I need a decently built acc to use emi

[glad breach]

Emi better endgame

[prime isle]

Which I don't lol

[glad breach]

There's no legit debate

[prime isle]

Isn't ch34 early game

[prime isle]

Yeah that's why I can't decide, I didn't even watch the anime so I don't have a preference

[maiden terrace]

it was like a beautiful thesis

[nova bone]

why is t rift so hard :(( actually im just awful at building comps right now because im not familiar enough with heroes but still

[dusk pebble]

back when 180 deficit was good

[prime isle]

There's an easy solution = 💰

[maiden terrace]

true

[dusk pebble]

and if u were 200+

[glad breach]

Yes but I always recommend building for endgame.

You can argue avoiding end game dps heroes like Raku since they can get upstaged which he kinda did.

CC heroes like Emi tho?

[prime isle]

Lol makes me happy to see an endgame player use Geralt XD

[glad breach]

LDV is the king of the Dims imo.

[prime isle]

Yeah I could get him rn

But saving resources

[prime isle]

Does emi need 9f to work? If so I'll just get Rem since I heard she doesn't need 9f

[glad breach]

Idk she always been 9f

[prime isle]

Oh

[glad breach]

Rem doesn't need 30 tho

[hidden bison]

Pls join my guild 2271867

[glad breach]

I didn't have enough Signatures and had to make that decision initially

[prime isle]

Now that I think abt it doesn't Rem instantly die without alna

Especially in campaign

[tardy compass]

my emi is still 100

[glad breach]

Inoz does most of that for me.

I like watching Metriya replays tho.

[prime isle]

100?

e100?

[tardy compass]

sig10 and nothing else

[prime isle]

Oh so how does she perform

[glad breach]

Earlygame SI reqs tbh are just the average of your team.

[tardy compass]

good cc at the start

few sec freeze

[neat oyster]

[glad breach]

It's ridiculous how "need" evolved when it comes to SIs.

Didn't use to have any hero that "needed" 30

Now everyone is said to.

[prime isle]

Geralt does that already

[glad breach]

Even when not true.

[neat oyster]

is gone now

[tardy compass]

[prime isle]

Man I can't decide

I'm getting a headache

[wise fiber]

thanks

[glad breach]

Just get Emi

Better deficit pusher

[prime isle]

Alr, I'll trust ya

[sage cove]

Hmm your queen might be the problem, maybe you can try with different pets if you haven’t already. For r5 I think you need haelus to get those juicy 4/5b. Try replacing him by Nev or tamrus in scarlet round if you have those.

[prime isle]

Damn I just beat a stage I used to get instantly one shotted

going for rem for nc/cr is way more useful than emi for campaign

[glad breach]

[prime isle]

Rn I'm tryna push campaign sooo

[glad breach]

CR is dead competition for newer players

[prime isle]

but ig it’s kinda like, yur not gonna compete in either right now

Damn this makes me sad

[glad breach]

Plus doom is getting Rem later afaik

Just 15$ on emi

[prime isle]

I invested everything in Geralt and got out damaged by emi

o aight doesn’t matter either way then

[grand river]

3 times lose here pls i need idea how to win this they oneshot me lol

[prime isle]

unironically using ulmus

[glad breach]

Recommend not using Ulmus

[grand river]

Pls some give me a formation for the 2nd team

[prime isle]

using heroes meant for frontlining instead of pippa and ulmus would be the most beneficial thing at this point

[glad breach]

Lack of SIs screws you too

[prime isle]

and not putting your damage dealer directly across that athalia

[glad breach]

It's like reverse campaign up in here.

[grand river]

Like this?

[prime isle]

sure, or if you have a brutus

[broken depot]

Is she really worth the 15$

[obsidian sun]

Hey anyone here high level that I can add, everyone I added doesn't have the champions for Union

[prime isle]

if you don’t wanna wait 2 months, and i think technically it’s worth from like a diamond value conversion perspective ig

[glad breach]

Think about how many hours you gotta work for that 15$ and then consider if the joy of having the second best Dim in the game is worth that.

[prime isle]

2nd best is pushing it lul

[glad breach]

True she's after LDV and probably Albedo

[still sand]

Who is #1?