classic-chat

[solid phoenix]

Can we cut her wings

[prime isle]

We have Flora at home

[glad breach]

You have to cc her before she pops shield.

If you wait till she pops shield you're fucked.

[whole quail]

fair distribution

[pliant summit]

[coarse fiber]

[keen relic]

ayo ppl. crassio optimal investment?

[regal shard]

I wanna swap my Shemira but I don’t know who I should swap her with

[keen relic]

any other options?

[regal shard]

Those were who I was gonna swap but Idk about anyone else

[dense laurel]

Is hero swap over?

[earnest forge]

Cant swap tamrus

[willow saffron]

sup guys

[earnest forge]

Hello

[west maple]

Hi, @oak venture!

If you have questions in AFK Arena ask in #classic-questions. If you need lineup help in campaign or arena ask in #lineup-help

[cloud void]

Lol dyno

[coarse fiber]

oop

[maiden terrace]

is this with the swap scroll or event?

[wise fiber]

you're actually still going at it?!

always surprised to see you

[ember thunder]

A whole chapter in two days

Damn I'm overleveled af

[wise fiber]

imagine slacking

ew

[ember thunder]

Rem and Emilia helped

A lot

[coarse fiber]

takes notes

[ember thunder]

Having 2 bonus 309e75 heroes is kinda op ngl

[steep lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-fish-reverse-scuba-bad-fish-gif-22565875

[wise fiber]

wtf

that's so...direct

[steep lodge]

No bullying of Zephyr

[main tree]

[teal mason]

Is the beast luring guarantee around the same as gazing?

[ember thunder]

🥰

[keen relic]

deficit?

[hollow nova]

Hello gm

[ember thunder]

160

Which is my peak

163 to be precise

[wise fiber]

is ch42 or 43 the beautiful tree

46?

god these chapters all blurred together lol

[sand rock]

Is ch22 suppose to make players keep retrying?

Cause I am doing that and I am going to fall asleep

[main tree]

44 is tree

[quick yew]

Palmer, nevanthi, or Emilia to e30

[wise fiber]

i'll miss it forever ;_;

[clever dagger]

[wise fiber]

nothing's come close

i don't think palmer needs engraving but he's also always freaking dead

[pastel cave]

Wdym

Palmer engraving is noice

[clever dagger]

Palmer love engraving

old geezer is on life support need everything he can get

[pastel cave]

The more you throw at palmer the more you get back

[wise fiber]

but he doesn't need it is my point

some heroes absolutely need it

to even start working

[clever dagger]

whom

[wise fiber]

quite a couple tanks aren't able to do their job at all

[pastel cave]

Palmer engraves are needed for his stats

[wise fiber]

some carries also can't carry but not that many in bossing situations, usually this is more a problem in campaign

[pastel cave]

Not primarily the effects

[quick yew]

If not palmer, than who

[wise fiber]

like if your joan can't take a hit, your comp is just gonna fall apart

difference between 500m and 5b, not 4b and 5b

[steep lodge]

[clever dagger]

Palmer gonna make u more returns than any campaign hero tho

dead gamemode

[wise fiber]

"campaign heroes" are whalinda and abaden these days lol

whalinda is backline so that's easy though

but abaden needs to take hits often

[pastel cave]

No

Abaden and wokelinda aint campaign heroes

[clever dagger]

Abadan isn’t campaign hero tf lol

[pastel cave]

Campaign heroes is smth like thoran

[wise fiber]

...

[pastel cave]

They are very much used in every gamemode

[wise fiber]

but they are?

[clever dagger]

Abel is def campaign hero tho

[pastel cave]

Yes but for me campaign hero is smth like thoran

Good in campaign, useless outside

[wise fiber]

just because they're also used in other modes doesn't mean they aren't campaign heroes

[pastel cave]

Minus tower

Yeah but who seriously considers campaign as a metric later on besides ppl who wanna hardcore push

After some point you dont get much back anymore

[clever dagger]

Abel is nuts in campaign can’t deny that

abaden

meh

[ember thunder]

43 is candy

[weary loom]

i dont know where to say this and im sorry if its wrong but there dont seem to be a channel for it: im looking for a guild to join asap so i can finish some of the bootcamp quests if anyone know of something please DM (i dont wanna flood thia channel with anythin unnessesary) thanks.

[pastel cave]

Check #guilds :)

Or join any random ingame guild

[weary loom]

yeh but i either dont meet requirements or its full

and there aint no channel to look for guild

i mean like say i do

[pastel cave]

Then find a lvl9 guild ingame

[wise fiber]

#guilds, search for something that requires 500 weekly points or something

[pastel cave]

With as many people as possible active

[wise fiber]

my point is some heroes need certain breakpoints to even start working

palmer is not one of those heroes

[pastel cave]

Like a 30out of 70 peoole guild screams "stay away from this"

[weary loom]

imma try thanks guys. im kinda new to the game >w<

[wise fiber]

sure he benefits, that's not my point

[pastel cave]

Sure

But my point is

Palmer is one of the heroes that very much warrants an overinvestment

Since his stats get copy pasted on your entire team

And I cant think of too many heroes that really need e60 to work properly

E30 yeah

Im excluding wokes here cuz wokes are wokes

[clever dagger]

tell me what heroes are need those breakpoints tho

[wise fiber]

i already did?

tanks need to survive to do their job in the frontline

some carries need to be able to survive

depending on where they stand

you're rarely throwing a full support into the middle of combat

outside of like silas who in fact does goes to the middle of the fight

you're just being pedantic at this point when you perfectly get my point

[pastel cave]

Idk, i don't have too many tanks engraved

Outside of the likes like grez

[manic bear]

Is there any meta chatacter tier list

[pastel cave]

Pinned messages in #classic-questions is your best bet. Any pure tierlist in this game is pretty garbage

[clever dagger]

you didn’t mention any heroes lol

[wise fiber]

#classic-chat message

what, you want me to make a full engraving tier list?

[pastel cave]

JdA is mostly engraved for her skill tho

[wise fiber]

i mentioned at least three heroes already

and my point is between skill itself and stats, something like her will need engraving more than backline support

a;wlekj;a/lwktna;wlke;alkwey idk why you guys are being pedantic when it's not like i'm even disagreeing that palmer is good

like

go do your e80 palmer then

i'm not gonna stop you

[north gazelle]

[pastel cave]

If i had to decide between e30 palmer e60 jda and e60 palmer e30 jda the choice is kinda clear

Also, if you overinvest palmer you put him to e63/e68

Or e44 alternatively

[wise fiber]

your choice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pastel cave]

Main choice for that is

[north gazelle]

jda?

[pastel cave]

Palmer just copy pastes his stats on all other ppl

[north gazelle]

new hero?

[pastel cave]

Smh

You are turning into a whale

Dont even know heroes anymore

O wait nvm

I dont know heroed anymore

I thought it was joan d'arc

But its joan of arc

[north gazelle]

oh JoA

[pastel cave]

Yeah

Idk why game named her joan of arc

Instead of d'arc

[north gazelle]

honestly as pleb i rather not e60 both

[pastel cave]

But fine i gueeessss

Ye

[north gazelle]

palmer only needs e39

joan e30 is enough

[pastel cave]

Palmer e44 is nice if u care about atk rating

And still rather cheap

[north gazelle]

i dont think palmer shares atk rating

only mp and cda

rosa does

[pastel cave]

And crit, no?

[north gazelle]

and crit

[pastel cave]

Smh

[pastel cave]

Guy shares his entire lifestory, without being asked

[north gazelle]

ohhh it does

cool

[pastel cave]

Yea

[north gazelle]

i thought it wasnt

[pastel cave]

In case of doubt

He shares it

[north gazelle]

but its palmer you cant go wrong with e60

especially its abel's bestfriend

[glad breach]

E60 gives him more attack to share.

[pastel cave]

Mines e63 atm

[glad breach]

68 him

Eyg

[pastel cave]

I only have so many cores

I also want his dupes

Like, badly

[glad breach]

Sounds like a free too poor problem.

[pastel cave]

They are so gooood

[north gazelle]

agoros whale

confirmed

[pastel cave]

Ok

E68 palmer

Or e60 cruke

[glad breach]

[north gazelle]

cruke hmmm

[glad breach]

My cruke is 30

[pastel cave]

Thats enough to know

[north gazelle]

do maetra instead

[pastel cave]

68 palmer it is

[glad breach]

Why do people have a hard on for e60 Cruke?

[pastel cave]

Give me 400 timegazers

Idk, i heard its good

Didnt look too insane for me tho

[north gazelle]

i just spent it on maetra

[wise fiber]

because they're using it as a solo farmer

[earnest forge]

My pleasure

[north gazelle]

fund me cores plox

[wise fiber]

solo farmers in AE/HF need all the help they can get

[earnest forge]

Nou fund me

[glad breach]

Oh

Well

[pastel cave]

Also

[glad breach]

That makes sense

[north gazelle]

rox will fund us dw

[pastel cave]

How much engraves does abel want

Ideallyyyyy

[earnest forge]

Just give him beer

He will fund is whale money

[glad breach]

Do I need e60 Cruke for AE or is my RC high enough?

[north gazelle]

as long she has the highest combat rating

[pastel cave]

For haelus?

[north gazelle]

and raine

[pastel cave]

In haelus team she does

[wise fiber]

i mean he isn't even a great farmer, he just lives and tanks don't take faction debuffs

[earnest forge]

Raine

[pastel cave]

Ye

[glad breach]

I see so a 2 star guarantee

[pastel cave]

As long as i dont put her with grez

[north gazelle]

honestly shes op and bae so you cant go wrong maxing

[earnest forge]

Abortus great farmer

I steal the everytime

T4

[wise fiber]

usually yeah, he can obviously still die but you wouldn't be farming at that point

[pastel cave]

I cant max

[wise fiber]

and then e60 would help with 3* more

[pastel cave]

Im talking about like e68 or smth like that

[wise fiber]

but there are more wokes now

[glad breach]

What if 3536e88?

[wise fiber]

probably got better farmers now

[earnest forge]

Not enough

[north gazelle]

i have stacked farmers too

[earnest forge]

4036e100

[left token]

Who's worth maxing out?

[earnest forge]

The great maxed abortus

[left token]

For campaign?

[wise fiber]

but yeah that was for a particular AE and chad HF

[earnest forge]

Bro collects yellow

[north gazelle]

remember hythlo said athane better

[wise fiber]

shouldn't be BiS for this upcoming AE anymore

which is why i can easily talk about it xdd

[glad breach]

My Athane is slightly bigger than my abortus.

[earnest forge]

And his abortus ain't great

I remember

Hythlo has abortus problems in beta

[north gazelle]

my wutus is slightly higher than thane lacking 1 dupe furn

[earnest forge]

My abortus is really an abortus

[pastel cave]

Gazing for dupes worth

[glad breach]

You get 30k dias

[earnest forge]

You get arena tickets

[pastel cave]

And an abelinda

[earnest forge]

And dust

That's all

Arena tickets and dust

[wise fiber]

i don't get how people have SG to gaze anything at all

i used TE to get stars

i literally have no SG

[earnest forge]

Same

[wise fiber]

you're just kraken

shhhh kraken go back to ocean

[earnest forge]

Nou

[wise fiber]

nou

[earnest forge]

Nounou

[glad breach]

I whaled Metriya 5* and have nothing compelling to gaze rn.

[wise fiber]

nouer

[earnest forge]

[glad breach]

So SG stacks

[earnest forge]

Nouest

[wise fiber]

nouester

[earnest forge]

Nouestest

[wise fiber]

i don't buy SG or TE

[earnest forge]

Same

[wise fiber]

but we got a bunch of TE from anniversary

[pastel cave]

I dont sg everything

[wise fiber]

and zero SG

[pastel cave]

Lemme show

[wise fiber]

i'm still missing a bunch of celehypos

well i got thanos from exchange i guess

[earnest forge]

I supposed to have 100 cards rn but I used 20 to try to get 30k dias

[pastel cave]

Thats why i still have sgs

[earnest forge]

Fk dupes I want the diamonds

[glad breach]

Awthalia Inc tho

Gotta save up

[earnest forge]

Athalia awake

?

[keen relic]

fr

[earnest forge]

Wtf

[glad breach]

Incoming Cele, it's woke days therefore Awthalia

[keen relic]

next woke is most likely athalia. according to dolly, or could prob be another celestial.

[earnest forge]

Awake vei

[glad breach]

Vei too new

[earnest forge]

Maetria is a new hero that's awakened

[keen relic]

woke titus

[earnest forge]

So I won't be surprised

[glad breach]

She brand new tho not a reimagining

[fluid merlin]

what hero should i take from the awakened hero chest

[earnest forge]

If they can awake a hero that do not exist before

They can awake a new hero

[pastel cave]

Woke atha would be lit

[glad breach]

Whatever hero you were building before woke chest.

[earnest forge]

Awake flora

[fluid merlin]

i mean the chest from the gloria spectacular event

[earnest forge]

Or awake wu kong

[pastel cave]

Woke monke

🐒

[earnest forge]

Woke monkey

[pastel cave]

Z

[earnest forge]

What

[pastel cave]

I just made 3* abel idk why

[fluid merlin]

i need stage 16-1

[earnest forge]

Idk I don't need 3* abel

[glad breach]

Wukong shoulda been a dim not a Cele

[fluid merlin]

god damn it!!!

[pastel cave]

Send cards for 5* pls

Idk why i did it

[earnest forge]

I need cruke a1

[pastel cave]

I have cruke a4

[glad breach]

I have Cruke

[pastel cave]

U have everything

[glad breach]

2*

[pastel cave]

Woah

[glad breach]

Rnjesus for the star

[earnest forge]

I have vei 3*

[pastel cave]

Bigger cruke than noone

Am biggest whale

[glad breach]

Oh my Cruke is actually e60

[pastel cave]

Wukong came in clutch as a sacrifice

[glad breach]

[hollow nova]

Agoros yo

[earnest forge]

I have tarnos 4*

[pastel cave]

Hai

[fluid merlin]

follow mobile gaming website tier lists religiously for 10000 years of good luck

[glad breach]

Its probably wrong

[earnest forge]

Sounds like a disaster

[glad breach]

Cero wrote a guide

But it was pre Metriya

So it's wrong

As she's obviously the first build priority

[fluid merlin]

mrgamer is never wrong

repent

[earnest forge]

If you want an afk guide. That guide will come in 6 pages

Afk tierlist

[keen relic]

welinda>waetria

[glad breach]

Anyway

Woke box I'd get Swolise probably

[fluid merlin]

i leveled daimon cus the tier list told me to

[earnest forge]

In ts maetria is queen

[glad breach]

She has booba

[fluid merlin]

titties ⁉️⁉️⁉️

[glad breach]

Indeed

[keen relic]

i need woke daimon

[pastel cave]

Daimon is very solid

[earnest forge]

Maetria is just broken in ts

[glad breach]

Daimon is C tier hero

[pastel cave]

Nah

[earnest forge]

Daimon is B

[pastel cave]

Very solid for starters

[earnest forge]

You need daimon in cr

[pastel cave]

Is what i meant

[keen relic]

early-mid no. his main role is in start of the game.

[earnest forge]

So he has use

[clever portal]

Uhm they adjusted the rewards on TR

[glad breach]

You can hard carry earlygame with other heroes easily

[earnest forge]

Cr and NC . Daimon exist there

[glad breach]

It's just not as braindead

[pastel cave]

See

That's the catch

[keen relic]

to each their own

[pastel cave]

[glad breach]

But Daimon makes you fall into the trap of building the d tier hero Rowan.

[earnest forge]

Only t100nplayer deserves tg cards

[pastel cave]

Woah

[keen relic]

:

[pastel cave]

Since when do you hate rowan

[glad breach]

Always

He does 2 things...

[earnest forge]

Nuni early game meta I guess

Hates

[glad breach]

Guaranteed 1 hit tank and feed 1 energy pot.

[fluid merlin]

daimon goes hard

[glad breach]

Garbage

[fluid merlin]

casts skill and i finish the stage

[keen relic]

cope

[earnest forge]

Daimon more like poomon

[pastel cave]

Tbh that one pot can be very needed

[clever portal]

Im on 100 already seems like there are more defense rewards ?

[glad breach]

Can be

[earnest forge]

Or diemon

[pastel cave]

If you are a campaign pusher

[clever portal]

Or its the same?

[pastel cave]

With mehira charm

[glad breach]

But it's not a general use ability

Its for feeding strong ult heroes like Mehira and Baelinda.

[fluid merlin]

idk what rowan does but the tierlist said hes good so i leveled him

[earnest forge]

It's the same

[clever portal]

Fr

[earnest forge]

They won't buff it

[pastel cave]

He's still solid

[keen relic]

lmao u buggin

[pastel cave]

It all depends on the options you have

[glad breach]

Solidly carrying the bottom of the tier list pyramid yeah

[pastel cave]

Idk

[keen relic]

titus big boi cele

[clever portal]

Well there was a hotfix

[glad breach]

You're better off building proper cc heroes.

[pastel cave]

He's easy to use and general use hero for most early game, no?

[glad breach]

Or legit buffers like Palmer.

[clever portal]

it says def force was adjusted ? And will be rewarded 5 days after i think or im just dumb

[pastel cave]

Ye palmer i agree with

[earnest forge]

Build prince of Persia. Best cc hero

[pastel cave]

I just think rowan still has a spot for early

[earnest forge]

Frfr

[glad breach]

Rowan is a lategame niche energy feed.

[pastel cave]

Yeah

That i agree with

[glad breach]

He doesn't belong anywhere else.

[keen relic]

used to be

[pastel cave]

Am just saying he's still good earlier

Man

Never thought i'd ever witness the day where i'd say rowan isnt that great later on

Considering how nuts he was at release

[glad breach]

Why build bad heroes early when you can start with good heroes?

[clever portal]

is this correct more rewards and will be rewarded 5 days after?

[keen relic]

hes not inheretly bad

[glad breach]

The amount of people who overbuild Rowan and Daimon is ridiculous

[pastel cave]

Overbuild yeah

Daimon to +20 is fine imo

203e0

[keen relic]

rowan only need 300

[glad breach]

30 is overbuilt

[keen relic]

not 5 days after, within 5 days.

[glad breach]

His 30 is stats for CR any use it had previously is gone with higher deficit pushing.

[pastel cave]

Would you stop him at 20?

Ah

[keen relic]

cr important.

[glad breach]

I wouldn't build him on a new account but if someone did I'd advise they stop at 20

[pastel cave]

Hm

The thing with lb is

If you already have scarlet palmer

[keen relic]

@clever portal would u agree rowan falls off at ur stage in the game

[pastel cave]

I probably would still put rowan third?

Idk

Oh well, raine also not bad

[glad breach]

🤔

[keen relic]

scarlet>palmer>rowan>raine>rosaline

or if u will raine before rowan

[glad breach]

Ig LB is kinda dogshit aren't they

[pastel cave]

Yea

If you remove wokes

[keen relic]

i still like LB

[pastel cave]

There isnt much left

[glad breach]

Only the supp heroes are used.

[pastel cave]

Yep

[glad breach]

Other than Scarlet.

[main tree]

Only thing i dont like about raine is she refuses to give past 7F for me

[pastel cave]

My raine is still 3f

I should change that

[glad breach]

Ig Rowan WL is acceptable these days.

[main tree]

Im just going for upgrades tbh

[glad breach]

Now for GB tho

You can put in Grez Silas Desi Oden Thoran

Skip Daimon he garbo

[pastel cave]

Yeah gb has a looot

Idk i barely use my desi

For some reason

[glad breach]

She's a Siren

Nuff said

[pastel cave]

Fair

[glad breach]

[keen relic]

desi nice healer

[glad breach]

Mauler tho...

[main tree]

I want to engrave desi but i get mixed feelings about her

[glad breach]

Satrana Anasta... Brutus 1 copy only...

[pastel cave]

Kren

[glad breach]

Yes

[keen relic]

skriath

[glad breach]

Also

[pastel cave]

Khasos

[main tree]

Anty

[pastel cave]

[glad breach]

No Khasos

[keen relic]

[glad breach]

Anty mid I'd get Skreggles

[pastel cave]

Skreg good

[clever portal]

Wtf no

[glad breach]

Some cool Skreggles tech you can use to counter certain irritating frontliners.

[pastel cave]

Man i wish there was a woke arden though

[clever portal]

lol

[keen relic]

i need woke sezis

[glad breach]

Wilders... Mishka then nothing else matters. Do whatever feels best.

[keen relic]

nevanthi?

[glad breach]

Neva a good simp target

I approve

[clever portal]

I really hate his root back then

[glad breach]

As long as you don't build Tasi or Ulmus you really can't go wrong.

[keen relic]

woke ulmus when

[main tree]

Eorin op

[hallow scroll]

@rough cave show feet

[wise fiber]

max tasi

[wise fiber]

[smoky obsidian]

If Daimon is not a good carry anymore then which carry should I try and get?

[rough cave]

[wise fiber]

daimon is perfectly fine

just don't overinvest

[main tree]

Unless you have nothing better to do

[wise fiber]

the problem is when people hear "use daimon" and then get a 309e60 daimon lol

[smoky obsidian]

Invest till which point of the game?

[wise fiber]

200e0 is good enough for a very long time

[hallow scroll]

i didn't even tag you this time

wtf

did you miss me that much?

[wise fiber]

defensive ping so i don't get pinged

[hallow scroll]

you wanna get tagged?

[wise fiber]

nou

[main tree]

Would only 203 daimon if new

[wise fiber]

maaaaaybe 3f but i wouldn't even really

[main tree]

Any further kinda meh

[wise fiber]

too much furniture to work on

the problem is having to pull furniture for heroes you don't have yet i guess

that always sucks

[smoky obsidian]

I see

[wise fiber]

very hard to beat a 200e0 daimon in early game unless you get super lucky with a whalinda copy or you're whaling

[glad breach]

Rem beats Daimon

[wise fiber]

or you're whaling

[errant orchid]

Is the beginner guide outdated?

[glad breach]

Likely

It takes like 3 months then it's out of date usually

[wise fiber]

well it doesn't go all out of date at once

[errant orchid]

Ah I see

[wise fiber]

bits and pieces

fall off

[smoky obsidian]

Speaking of rem, rem is better than Emilia? It seems like I probably can only get one of them

[glad breach]

Lemme skim it rq.

[wise fiber]

some things like leveling one hero higher than others will always be relevant

[glad breach]

Rem is better early it seems and Emilia late.

[wise fiber]

no way to spend $15 on game?

not that anyone should be spending

but if you plan on playing longterm...

[errant orchid]

Which hero’s should I put in my wishlist

[wise fiber]

oh well you have 1.5 months to truly decide which one's more important

[errant orchid]

There’s a few diff characters then when the guide was put out

[main tree]

Nah trial

The 3 days trial can get you to chap 22

[wise fiber]

well i mean if they actually plan on keeping the account for like a year

not having one would probably be rather painful

but spending on mobile game is pretty stupid, so

[smoky obsidian]

Yeah

[glad breach]

🤔

[pastel cave]

They'll also fall due to powercreep eventually

[glad breach]

Albedo is the surest investment.

[pastel cave]

Yep

[glad breach]

New dims always OP, Albedo is the greatest Dim supporter of all time.

[smoky obsidian]

Wait are rem/emilia so powerful that they can do that alone?

[glad breach]

Therefore Albedo OP

[wise fiber]

well they do need someone to leech off of

[somber estuary]

Not alone but yeah

[prime isle]

I bought emilia

[wise fiber]

you still need to link with someone for trial

[glad breach]

Emilia OP

[wise fiber]

it'll get some investment but also still averaging from top few

so if you have nothing it's not gonna do shit

[prime isle]

Hopefully Emilia and Geralt pairs up fine since they both got freeze thingy

[smoky obsidian]

Oh ok,was considering cause I'm stuck on 7-40 and I want to get to 9-40 before the gloria thing ends

[glad breach]

Emilia Geralt Yenn Khaz...

[keen relic]

fr. 203 is fine

[glad breach]

Ice mountain

[errant orchid]

Which heroes should I put in my wishlist if anyone can ss what they have put

[wise fiber]

bruh my wishlist is gonna look like a meme to you

well, if you knew what it meant

which you won't be able to

[glad breach]

I looked the #faq-resources is acceptable.

I'm too much of an elitist to do that though.

[keen relic]

im 1 away from 8/8 numisu

[wise fiber]

did they add crassio in

[main tree]

My wishlist is just fodder

[glad breach]

No

[north gazelle]

welcome

[glad breach]

They haven't updated it since January

[wise fiber]

crassio should probably be added somewhere

tamrus too

edwin probably not for early game

[glad breach]

Replace Numisu with Crassio

[pastel cave]

Whyyyy

[errant orchid]

Tyy

[pastel cave]

Get them stars

[main tree]

Cause i have all 4F that i need

[wise fiber]

my wishlist is whoever i have extra E copy of so i can make E+ fodder

[glad breach]

Hard to say who you'd swap in Tamrus for

[keen relic]

numi only mauler support as of now so crassio should be sixth in

[north gazelle]

i just sent mine, but didnt said use it

dont use it

[glad breach]

Hardly matters.

[keen relic]

would make mauler bit easier

[wise fiber]

why would you NEED a mauler support

[pastel cave]

Isnt the anubis looking guy also a support?

[wise fiber]

tower is the last thing you should invest for

it's reward doesn't scale with time

[errant orchid]

Ahh ok😂😂

[glad breach]

You'll be pushing MT more with one A and RC for awhile than with a proper comp.

[wise fiber]

every other reward scales with time

tower is always there waiting

[glossy bay]

damn hero swap will end soon i still didn't swapped any hero :/

[north gazelle]

u mean salami?

[pastel cave]

Yeah

[main tree]

I let soulstones do my stars

[wise fiber]

alaro too

[main tree]

Meanwhile fodder give nice juice

[glad breach]

I don't buy the juice anymore.

[wise fiber]

i buy it for the memes

[keen relic]

hmph well im 7/8 on numisu might as well finish

[glad breach]

CR and FR more than make up for new releases.

[north gazelle]

just max rc then use abrutus, drez, anasta solo ez tower

[main tree]

I buy cause tree smol

[glad breach]

Purple crystals give celepos tho

[wise fiber]

numisu has super lategame CR value but that's so late

[wise fiber]

i don't have the diamonds

to reset

[glad breach]

It's actually cost efficient in my experience.

[wise fiber]

i'm super low on dia

all of it goes to hcp

[glad breach]

RIP

[keen relic]

numisu can be dim link

[pastel cave]

You wanna see the best dim link?

[glad breach]

So can A Daimon

[keen relic]

im using daimon as of now so no can do

[pastel cave]

Thats a dim link

[main tree]

Stargazing for me

[wise fiber]

wait the wilder list does have tamrus in

i've been lied to

Wilders:

Raku, Mishka, Eironn, Astar, Eorin, Nevanthi | > | Tamrus, Saurus (CR), Pippa, Lyca, Nemora (Needs 9F) | > | Lorsan, Tasi | > | Rest
this is the list i found

[glad breach]

Agoros stop flexing your hero who has higher power than some of these new people's whole boxes.

[wise fiber]

not sure i would put eironn there, but it seems ok

[pastel cave]

[glad breach]

5p is meta campaign

[pastel cave]

Wats 5p?

[keen relic]

chonky walker

[glad breach]

5 pull

[pastel cave]

Ohh

[wise fiber]

but you don't need heavy eironn until queen skriath stunlock version

and that requires queen

not sure when a newer account even gets that

[keen relic]

im getting tiramisu and eorin out the way b4 i get eirron in.

[wise fiber]

when they have to garrison albedo and uhhh idk who else first

[glad breach]

Wokelene Scarlet 5p is best 5p.

[wise fiber]

def not ainz anymore

[keen relic]

if there idiots within the first 2 weeks

[wise fiber]

but i have no idea who else is up for garrison lol

[pastel cave]

Which investment does wokelene need btw

For that 5p

[main tree]

I like to throw ealker into it

[pastel cave]

Saw it a few times so far

[main tree]

A copy

[glad breach]

Don't recall probably 309e30

[pastel cave]

Hm

[keen relic]

they dont 'have' to garrison bedo

[glad breach]

Mine has been e60 long time

[wise fiber]

queen is collab right?

can't buy

[pastel cave]

Idk if finishing wokelene will ever be worth it

[glad breach]

Queen is collab

[pastel cave]

I made her m30 soon after release

[wise fiber]

oh you meant albedo

eh

[pastel cave]

And she's been m30 ever since

[wise fiber]

maybe not early

[keen relic]

bedo garrison like midgame or some shit

[wise fiber]

but you'd want albedo garrison to turn free very fast

[glad breach]

Most of the meta dims you can't garrison or are mythical not collab.

[wise fiber]

or that cost is gonna bite

[glad breach]

So Albedo/Queen probably

[wise fiber]

maybe

i guess then you can build eironn pretty early

[glad breach]

Saving for Remelia is first priority rn tho

[main tree]

Just need her to take a hit or 2 basically

[wise fiber]

well rn yeah

[keen relic]

ya. rn without cutting into remilia reserves i can get 66 dimstones

[pastel cave]

I hate that we have double dims again

[glad breach]

She's better with more hp because bigger shield from the fort item.

She resets it every revive.

[pastel cave]

Also, i think she really wants 9f then

[main tree]

Meh ive had her at 209E30

[pastel cave]

Because thats the point where her revive gets reduced

[wise fiber]

double dims is great after release

really hurts during exchange period tho

[pastel cave]

Yep

It does

[main tree]

Its such a crippling effect on ya if low spender

[keen relic]

lab coins

[wise fiber]

instead of missing one, you're missing two full heroes compared to other people

[glad breach]

It's harder to stunlock with that version but you do get Scarlet lockdown.

Which is why you need to abuse Wokelene's revive

[wise fiber]

and when they quickly enter meta like these two, these two months hurt

with yennefer and geralt it was easier cause geralt never even broke in

and yennefer entered really late

[glad breach]

I was using them d1 in TS

Idk what everyone else was doing.

[wise fiber]

geralt?

i don't even see geralt now

where are you using him lol

[glad breach]

I got a 100% WR comp

With them

At 4 or 5 fight

[wise fiber]

i guess before some new tools geralt was ok

he's not even in 7 comp meta from what i see

but we got a shit ton of good TS heroes in a row

[wise fiber]

yennefer's competition was e100 ainz for whales so it took longer for people to properly look at her i guess

hard to drop that overinvested hero

it hurts xd

[glad breach]

Not me

I always said Ainz would die someday

I only put the minimum into him when forced to for AE

[wise fiber]

i mean i kept mine at e50 until that one AE we were told to use ainz for farming

[glad breach]

After engraves

[main tree]

Tbh anything thats released is painful

Lately its just meta change

[pastel cave]

Ngl i still like ainz but thats mainly cuz i like overlord

[wise fiber]

that one time we had a giga long break for 4f and finally getting a 4f was great tho lol

[glad breach]

Metriya release is painful for F2poors

[wise fiber]

like it didn't even matter what 4f it was

anything was a relief at that point

[main tree]

Fr

[glad breach]

She's a monster

[north gazelle]

true

even with hodl

[pastel cave]

Mae or baelinda

[glad breach]

Hodl F2poors should just bite the bullet on a good simp hero.

[main tree]

Maetria i can find a way around

[glad breach]

I woulda gone all in on Swolise or Baelinda tho

[main tree]

Belinda other hand

Puts me on life support

[wise fiber]

i know some went all in on whalinda and still had enough for maetria so they're still doing great for now but

next one coming soon

[glad breach]

Awthalia

[wise fiber]

probably during AE too, if it's AE hero...yikes

[glad breach]

Good we're stocked up somewhat

[wise fiber]

i mean i'm fine on TE

[glad breach]

Over 400 TG over 100 SG

[wise fiber]

i did the math

[pastel cave]

Im at like

130 TE

[wise fiber]

including monthly card, in 30 days i got +269 TE

this last month

[main tree]

Im at 10 rn

[wise fiber]

3-22 to 4-22

[pastel cave]

I can probably knock out a few more from tower

But other than that im out

[wise fiber]

even with my shit luck and needing 600 + 100 for ascend

[main tree]

Give me some rc

[glad breach]

FT releases help TG stashing

[pastel cave]

[wise fiber]

i have 1500 TE stocked up since i never built wokelene

at +250 rate per month

[main tree]

Whale

[wise fiber]

it'll take quite a while for me to not have enough for new one

even if i start star chasing

[wise fiber]

no u

and i'm not not star chasing

[glad breach]

Star chase my darling

[wise fiber]

not going for 5* yet but i've started 3*ing quite a few

[keen relic]

sleepy seal broken

[wise fiber]

free 6th hero

that doesn't die

a higher damage flora

[glad breach]

5 звезда

[wise fiber]

kraken

[pastel cave]

Not even +40

[glad breach]

If I were kraken I'd have 18+ reso

[pastel cave]

Do you even simp

Smh

[glad breach]

My pets are still minors.

🤔

[pastel cave]

My pets are 9rc

And 2 12s

[wise fiber]

same tho

but i did have this at one point

then i spent it all

rip

[glad breach]

Ultimate hoarder.

[maiden terrace]

why do people do si35 for awakened heros

[keen relic]

ya fr

[keen relic]

[glad breach]

Secondary stat bump

40 is expensive as hell comparatively.

[maiden terrace]

is it really worth it

[glad breach]

It's an edge

I had 88% WR for the Metriya comp last round even fighting against the biggest whales in the region.

[maiden terrace]

very nice

[torn steppe]

[proven rover]

Hello guys!
With who I should swap my 7 copies of Nara? (swap event) Raku-Nevanthi-Anasta?

[glad breach]

This the advancement swap scroll or the anniversary swap?

[torn steppe]

Aniversary

She litterly ome ukted the enemie

[pliant summit]

Lol Thane can't keep up

[glad breach]

Smol def

[torn steppe]

Her damage is pretty high ngl

[torn steppe]

Yeah im behind alot in kt since i only push when i need dias

[glad breach]

Push 1500 smh

Get cores

And dust

It adds up

[torn steppe]

@glad breach

Now is low deff?

[glad breach]

320?

I've seen bigger

Still solid

Gotta be like 8 or 9x right?

[sand rock]

Eh

[torn steppe]

Im not a kraken

[sand rock]

How come Emilia deals more damage than any other guy

[torn steppe]

14x

[glad breach]

14x pog

[torn steppe]

Yeah 15x is around 340 deff for me

[glad breach]

It says how in her abilities

Oh smol tree

Big owl tho

[sand rock]

Well well I thought Emilia suppose just being healer main

[glad breach]

She's cc and damage

Healing is kind of a side hustle.

[sand rock]

Humm I see

[marsh mauve]

@torn steppe rem or emilia

[torn steppe]

Rem

[marsh mauve]

[rare vapor]

Both 🐧

[sand rock]

I will say both but Rem is better than Emilia for my thought

[prime isle]

oneth

[sand rock]

1th

[rare vapor]

I use Emilia for pvp 😂 ||i hate Ainz||

[prime isle]

firth

[sand rock]

Thith

[prime isle]

perchance

[sand rock]

🗿

[raw cape]

gotta love companion points

[glad breach]

Nor bad for f2p

[wise fiber]

at some point during ch50 ish, enemy levels mean nothing

it's all about power cap

idk why

[prime isle]

did 300b damage randomly, every other attempt was like 200b

[prime isle]

i mean at that point a heroes cbr is like a floating point error for the enemy

[wise fiber]

scaling is so weird

like ch30 to 49-ish you kinda keep the same deficit

not exactly but there's a certain balance

and then suddenly it just breaks loose of that concept

[prime isle]

yuh 180-220 is reasonable the whole way there tbh

i’d imagine it’s to do with the difficulty adjusting to how many people pass

[wise fiber]

i don't think it's that

[quaint trellis]

Um guys, any suggestion on this…

My hero pool is a bit limited tho, and i have no Mulan 😦

[wise fiber]

more like if you already have X of a stat, adding the static amount on top doesn't do as much i think

like 500 +5 can still mean a lot

but 3000 +5 certainly means less

[glad breach]

Cc meta

[prime isle]

m yuh

[wise fiber]

but it's a really arbitrary point during ch 48-50

it's not like my heroes suddenly changed when i entered ch48

but suddenly i could push to basically no limit except power cap

[glad breach]

🤔

Probably need a data miner

[prime isle]

nara? tbh you could just go down the list and see who works

[glad breach]

If Lilith backed off of secondary stat creep the lower haste helps us.

[quaint trellis]

Ahhh i saw the guide hehe tnx

[wise fiber]

i was at like 200-220 deficit from ch46 to 49 basically, and then suddenly i could climb full chapters at a time

[prime isle]

sounds pretty epic tbh

[wise fiber]

having a bit of trouble with this currently but i can prob still pass

just need some more retries

[glad breach]

With cc meta the main enemy was always haste creep from overinflated enemy gear stats.

[wise fiber]

might get power capped on 53-13 tho

this one was close

had to swap some heroes for tamrus to be slotted

[glad breach]

So if ch 50 enemies have T3 gear instead of 20 star T2 gear that would be why.

[wise fiber]

hmmmm that's a very interesting thought

like you said would need dataminers

[prime isle]

it makes me happy that ldv is just that good to be used the entire way through campaign like he is even in ch55

[wise fiber]

need furn dupes at some point tho xdd

[glad breach]

Full screen cc and damage Amp is OP

[wise fiber]

i don't think i need to engrave him more

[prime isle]

ohh that’s a great point

[glad breach]

I am a smart

[wise fiber]

but if i want to keep pushing at power cap i'd probably need to get davinci dupes lol

[prime isle]

wonder when the change in gear happens from t1 to t2

[wise fiber]

a smart

[glad breach]

[prime isle]

the braincell doing overtime today

[glad breach]

I drank whole milk today not skim.

[spare wolf]

that doesn't only happen in chapter 50 though

[glad breach]

Fat energy supercharged me.

[spare wolf]

if youre near the min floor deficit has slowly been increasing since the lower 40s

[prime isle]

fat brain

[wise fiber]

but it was always more gradual until ch50

where it's just all hell breaks loose

[glad breach]

It's a jump from like 200 to 300+

[wise fiber]

dis

like sure, it can go from 200 to 220 for a point

and then maybe 220 to 240

[spare wolf]

it was over 300 for the last few chapters for me and im only in 48

[wise fiber]

and then suddenly 240 to 400 in one chapter

[glad breach]

We aren't all trygards like you.

[wise fiber]

xd

[prime isle]

my best deficit was like 230, can imagine you can get to like 260 earlier on and an extra 5 deficit every ch doesnt sound too crazy

[eternal bronze]

I'm at lime 230

Like

[spare wolf]

im not tryharding, just not ignoring campaign to auto battle through it for chapters at a time

[eternal bronze]

My highest was 260

[glad breach]

On the high end of 14x

[pliant seal]

i really suck at this game

[prime isle]

but a consistant pushing effort suddenly allowing for an extra 50+ nah that’d be wacky

[glad breach]

@torn steppe we were also talking about campaign secondary stat creep.Fish swears it gets easier in ch50.

[livid fjord]

Sup I just joined the server

[torn steppe]

I dont have experience about 50+ 😅

[glad breach]

Ik

But

[tranquil atlas]

the gap get abit smaller

if thats what u meant

[torn steppe]

@tranquil atlas hihi flawfyy

[glad breach]

Flaw you know anyone who datamined it?

[tranquil atlas]

few people

[glad breach]

Do enemies have t3 gear?

[tranquil atlas]

what did u need

enemy has t2 + million of star

[glad breach]

Why did Fish get big deficit shift at 50?

[eternal bronze]

I leveled my rc a bit to make it easier

[livid fjord]

I think I shouldn’t be here due to my level

[tranquil atlas]

bc chasmic hasn't hit as much

[leaden wharf]

Hi

[glad breach]

But he said it also felt easier.

[prime isle]

that’s what i was sayin

[wise fiber]

campaign went from difficult and slow to just pushing at power cap around that point for me

i know a couple other people who felt the same

[prime isle]

lilith should give us all the source code to the game so we can find out specifics

[glad breach]

[wise fiber]

maybe there's actually nothing and the handful of us just happened to have the same gaming experience, who knows

it really felt like there was something tho

[glad breach]

Could be hero comp too

[livid fjord]

I mostly just brute force it and pray to rng

[prime isle]

was it when t4 gear dropped or something

[wise fiber]

don't think so

[prime isle]

valid

[glad breach]

Fish big nub T4 was out long before Fish got ch50

[wise fiber]

...that

lol

[prime isle]

maybe you unlocked secret t5 gear

[livid fjord]

Who should I go for

[tranquil atlas]

feel easier bc the stage cant' get harder

[glad breach]

Maybe engraved key cc heroe?

[livid fjord]

I like rem I need a good tank but Emilia is a good mage cc

[wise fiber]

hard to imagine we all engraved key hero at different points of game life from different account strength