R u willing to spend
#classic-chat
marble magnet
I'm chapter 44
marble magnet
don't think it's relevant
wise axle
I doubt u will rly get much of that currency unless u r a spender
Looks like a premium shop
prime isle
if you can kill 3 bosses you’re probably able to get a copy from the store every time, store resets every month, so 14 copies takes 14 months to get
wooden girder
deep magnet
Bro I ain’t got allat 😭
wise axle
<@108479187433570304> jack
wassup Famaz love ya too bro
is Veithael any good in campaign?
clever dagger
He’s not game changing but I used him once or twice in 5 pull at end of chap 45
warped hornet
Swap mehira or flora for chimera? Or anyone have any other ideas?
clever dagger
Not rly a hero to build specifically for campaign tho
buy more wu copies before swap event ends and swap him for chim
warped hornet
Also for veithael sig weapon. Which attributes are buffed for the other team
At best i get what 2 more copies of wu Before event end?
clever dagger
probably more depending how many lab coins you have
warped hornet
I have 30k now
clever dagger
See how many you have by the end, it would be worth refreshing lab shop for him
21 days for swap event
warped hornet
Yeah for sure. I just wasnt sure i could get more than 2 in 2 weeks
Alright ill see how that looks
clever dagger
worst case do Flora tho
but she has her niche uses and we don’t know about performance in nightmare corridor yet
warped hornet
Only reason i had mehira in mind was cuz i just smashed theough chap 42 and i had to swap the myth copy for an elite copy a bunch of times.
clever dagger
I mean you can get by on elite Mehira but you’ll save yourself a world of pain keeping her at mythic
clever dagger
you had to use elite copy of Mehira in some stages?
never had to do that and I have ascended weird
livid pine
wise axle
Any good codes lately?
tall ibex
Nope
clever dagger
might get one or two for anniversary but who knows
wise axle
i see
glad breach
warped hornet
you had to use elite copy of Mehira in some stages?
Yeah i had to do it on a few. Im assuming it had to do something with kaz being weaker
Idk why but i know 1 was def vs thoran and as soon as i swapped to an elite copy it worked
It was on a stages where she was using the wand and taking damage to ramp up but kaz was stealing the damage from being weaker
Pretty niche either way
lavish remnant
normal ?
clever dagger
lucky but does happen
wise axle
shud i take the 10k diamond or trade my L Flora
clever dagger
shud i take the 10k diamond or trade my L Flora
double it and give it to the next person
past pulsar
@sonic dock are you swapping your atalene?
warped hornet
On veithaels sig 30 item what atrributes are shared.
past pulsar
Skill
warped hornet
On veithaels sig 30 item what atrributes are shared.
Is it just the items attributes like the attack and def
clever dagger
On veithaels sig 30 item what atrributes are shared.
Heath, ATK, Dodge if I’m reading it correctly.. don’t quote me
warped hornet
Mines at 29
tall ibex
I think it’s attack and dodge, goes down if Veithael looses health
clever dagger
Wait now I’m confused, do they gain the bonuses from the SI10/si20 effect etc or just the attributes up top?
warped hornet
Thats my question
tall ibex
The way it’s worded it would be health too but pretty sure that’s not the case
clever dagger
I think they would just gain ATK/DODGE actually
Need someone that actually knows in here ahahaha
warped hornet
It would make sense that thats what they would get. But i know afk has some language translations issues here an there
I read the word attributes and the see dynamic attributes listed and makes me wonder lol
clever dagger
Yeah the SI30 only references the bonus stats from the ability that the signature item gives. So based off that ATK/DODGE.
warped hornet
I mean thats still sweet
Just trying to figure out who to swap out of my thane lb team for him
tall ibex
Veithael has a special aspect of when he looses heath above his initial max health he stays at 100% but his max health decreases. This is why I think he isn’t sharing his health buff, would be crazy if he’s just giving everyone 50% more health, and if he did everyone would look like they started at 2/3s health
Maybe that last part is wrong and he also would heal everyone’s +50% health but really don’t think he’s giving health
clever dagger
Veithael has a special aspect of when he looses heath above his initial max heal...
Yeah, the health also doesn’t specify ‘bonus’
And the SI30 specifies that
ATK/DODGE are bonuses
warped hornet
So 2 questions.
Swap vei with estrilda? Or who?
Palmer and halues which one with thane and which with belinda
tall ibex
That order is all fkd up to begin with
warped hornet
What order on the lb team?
tall ibex
Yeah Sonja estrilda Palmer thane hendrik
charred sand
What's the standard setup for comps? 2x support 2x DPS 1x tank? Or is it highly dependent?
warped hornet
I just swapped estrilda to the back just now cuz im planning on replacing her with vei
Come reset i should have enough for veis 30si
So i was guessing he would want to be in the back there and have palmer in middle to buff all
tall ibex
Hendrik’s furn should be on thane. Maybe I’m wrong but I thought that was the main reason for using him
warped hornet
Is there a general rule of thumb on which comps like which hero better. Haleus and palmer. For belinda team and than lb team
tall ibex
Just my opinion but I would put healus on thane
tall ibex
What's the standard setup for comps? 2x support 2x DPS 1x tank? Or is it highly ...
1 dps usually
tall ibex
Yeah looks good
brazen sonnet
Is there a general rule of thumb on which comps like which hero better. Haleus a...
Yeah I think generally ppl run palmer with linda and haelus with athane
warped hornet
Perfect
tall ibex
Also you could do alna Abel with no Rowan
warped hornet
For regular pvp she ults and ends the battle in like. 1 second
charred sand
1 dps usually
So 1 DPS and 2 tanks?
brazen sonnet
Between olgath and tarnos who sees more use?
Idk who to build next 
warped hornet
In ts i will use alna sometimes
tall ibex
So 1 DPS and 2 tanks?
Super dependent, what mode are you talking about
warped hornet
What chapter r u in charlie
warped hornet
When i was new i thought teams needed specific set up like raiding in an rpg
This game is weird
Some teams can work without tanks some use 4 tanks etc
Its all on the teams synergies
tall ibex
2 tanks is pretty standard early on.
I guess 2 tanks 2 supports and 1 dps
warped hornet
Thats prob a pretty safe bet overall
tall ibex
The supports either being healers or cc units
warped hornet
There is beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
It should have some fairly good info especially on heros to target early on
And how to spend resources
wise axle
from now until the end of hero swap event can we get more floras or wukongs?
or about the same
tranquil atlas
Whoever suggest you those team have no regards for actual functionality of team
And just saw the team in lc
And assume it work
warped hornet
? What
warped hornet
I mean i also made it to r64 legends with them
So
That belinda team she ults almost at battle start
She either nukes enitre team in 2 seconds or loses
tranquil atlas
Yeah I think generally ppl run palmer with linda and haelus with athane
Not close
warped hornet
What teams do you run and where do u place in legends?
I mean atleast show some of the reason for your insight
clever dagger
She either nukes enitre team in 2 seconds or loses
warped hornet
Idk it works good on my server and in ts so
And people use it in lc
So it has to work right?
glad breach
🤔
misty mirage
What’s a good replacement for Mishka?
brazen sonnet
What is the standard?
glad breach
Why would you replace a 4f?
earnest forge
Way better
warped hornet
With what
glad breach
Should be able to get a decent one.
warped hornet
It currently keeps me in the top 10 for legends torney
tranquil atlas
What teams do you run and where do u place in legends?
Don’t think you want to see it
brazen sonnet
What teams do you run and where do u place in legends?
Flaw may not be the best person to emulate uless u whale 
glad breach
Flaw is a top .1% player
warped hornet
Well thats where things will differ aswell
glad breach
Most days
warped hornet
Being top 1 on like server 5 is alot differ than top 10 on server 900 lol
glad breach
Being top 1 on like server 5 is alot differ than top 10 on server 900 lol
I meant on global
tranquil atlas
Cus i’ve literally been running this for several awaken release now
glad breach
Not on a server
warped hornet
No doubt
But the methodology is the same i guess. Mega whale vs baby dolphin
Are gonna be drastically different
earnest forge
Cus i’ve literally been running this for several awaken release now
Show your other kraken comp
tranquil atlas
He doesn’t realise that the comp he run would only work at mega kraken level
But I’ll entertain this idea for a sec
earnest forge
I prefer abel alna than abel cycle
And abrutus with yen is better than abrutus without
Flaw and flow
tranquil atlas
has to alna the abel to make her survive , not enough frontline ; supporting cast can die and still get the same
more or less result
earnest forge
If you will have alna abel and zol . That will have enough speed even against athane for abel to wipe
I think
Zol >ezizh for me
tranquil atlas
pretty bad
earnest forge
It works for me
tranquil atlas
very anecdotal experience
earnest forge
Unless they have a stacked up athane comp
tranquil atlas
if it work , more ppl would have run it
earnest forge
Then I can't win against
tranquil atlas
athane doesn't even sit with his own comp anymore
tranquil atlas
Being top 1 on like server 5 is alot differ than top 10 on server 900 lol
anyway
sever 900
thats nice
glad breach
Your enemies are cute smol accounts
tranquil atlas
definitely
warped hornet
And abrutus with yen is better than abrutus without
On my server i lose if i swap in yen. She is 309e30 for me
glad breach
Yen OP
warped hornet
Idk why i can use her in regular pvp. I always lose when i sub her in
Unless im subbing wrong hero out or something
earnest forge
In my server. Top 5 tried to take my spot for weeks and fails miserably with standard comps. He ended up stealing my homebrew
And he whale rc
warped hornet
With yen do u sub her for joan or ezio
earnest forge
Id replace Joan for yen
clever dagger
replace Brutus
earnest forge
Ezio is there to clap other abrutus
clever dagger
warped hornet
I did replace joan in my tries
Let me see if i can replicate a lose to this guy
I know onlyahor difference is he has wing 12 and i have the fat lava 12
So im sure that could be it but i still win using ezio
earnest forge
The guy who stole my athane comp still running it
warped hornet
Ha
glad breach
Lion better for dps
warped hornet
Yeah mine is 1 copy from 12
glad breach
As I understand it Fire Breather is low tier pet.
main tree
glad breach
But I'm not a pet guru
warped hornet
It was the one i fisrt started when they dropped and was my highest
glad breach
I just ask people what to use.
warped hornet
Its off my wishlist for now and needed it toward reso12 anyway
earnest forge
The guy who stole my athane comp still running it
I think my athane comp still beats this even if I mirror it.
warped hornet
Bit Z u can see my loss when i use yen so idk what else to do there
warped hornet
frank narwhal
I mean you rank higher than them by a lot it's just rng
You're too deep in the weeds
glad breach
Doesn't Yen need e60?
earnest forge
Doesn't happen to me
frank narwhal
Optimally yeah but in that bracket he should be able to use e30 fine
earnest forge
Who front albedo?
warped hornet
My best success is with albedo amd brutus front
frank narwhal
In my bracket basically every abrutus will be beefier than mine so I don't even really worry that hard about fiddling with him too much
Not doing abrutus dim this ts anyways hello solise yen
glad breach
Gotta Abrutus Dim by 7 team.
tranquil atlas
In my bracket basically every abrutus will be beefier than mine so I don't even ...
Cus you simp for other dumb sht
N you still don’t use em
Stfu gabe
😔
toxic cedar
Question for the crowd: default battle speed or x2?
tranquil atlas
I'll simp for you then
Fk you
earnest forge
Question for the crowd: default battle speed or x2?
X4
tranquil atlas
Rlly sht sample size
clever dagger
Question for the crowd: default battle speed or x2?
strange af question
earnest forge
Rlly sht sample size
I know. I don't wanna message someone in my fl to change comps
tranquil atlas
Whatever you hit them with is offense favored to begin with
frank narwhal
warped hornet
Whatever you hit them with is offense favored to begin with
This does seem to work better
earnest forge
Ofc it is
earnest forge
That's my homebrew
warped hornet
Thats with my pet only 11
glad breach
Baelinda crush their souls then Zol executes Abrutus.
earnest forge
Winged
warped hornet
And what pet on lb thane team
earnest forge
Blade
warped hornet
Where does that new pet fit in
I used it tower a bunch and works awesome when it gets rolling
earnest forge
In the bakery
warped hornet
Lol
safe panther
earnest forge
I would put rowan behind abel
But that's me
Also zol is there for possible athane comp attacks
glad breach
If he isn't feeding energy pots to her then yes but otherwise he's best in 4.
earnest forge
Abel without zol can shutdown abrutus
glad breach
Idk Baelinda specifics aren't known to me.
earnest forge
Zol is there for the 3f against athane quick attacks
glad breach
I just know she does big lightning and everything dead.
earnest forge
As I said. Zol is there for people who wanna attack that sht with athane
glad breach
Metriya claps Athane burst.
She just oneshots everyone on revive after being powered up.
earnest forge
you don't choose who attacks your comp when you defend
glad breach
Yes
earnest forge
earnest forge
Zol is for burst
That vanilla Burst doesnt work anymore
For me I guess
So I scrap it and make my team better
warped hornet
Yeah so far i havent had issues with anyone stealing the potion from rowan but i can move him if needed. I figured he was best in middle
glad breach
I think you need Athane and Veit these days
warped hornet
My viet is so close. To 30 si
Im guess vei get subbed in over estrilda in that athane comp?
Sonja, athane, hendric, vei and either palmer or haleus is my guess?
glad breach
cunning wigeon
gourmelee thesku
earnest forge
What you get?
frank narwhal
gourmelee thesku
Trez boss soon
I think trez is 3rd boss
It's for the ingredient gathering thing
frank narwhal
There's a boss for each stage of the story
Thesku Sonja trez
Can't remember last one
Mortas or something
Something weird
earnest forge
Probably wilder?
cunning wigeon
What you get?
earnest forge
10 baits
earnest forge
20 cores
frank narwhal
Wtf is this
frank narwhal
Are there leaderboars rank rewards
earnest forge
Eeeew
frank narwhal
But I get to touch trez
winged horizon
rewards are doodoo
frank narwhal
So win for me
cunning wigeon
earnest forge
100 free summon is garbage
winged horizon
its a joke
winged horizon
thats a bit better of a reward
earnest forge
Rip
winged horizon
so this new woke chest event
winged horizon
can you spend $$$ for more chests or what
frank narwhal
You can buy keys yeah
cunning wigeon
can you spend $$$ for more chests or what
no
frank narwhal
Wait you can't
winged horizon
which one
cunning wigeon
You can buy keys yeah
you cant
winged horizon
oh okay ty
cunning wigeon
thats cele isles
winged horizon
very surprising
cunning wigeon
gabepie need a bonk
cunning wigeon
yes
frank narwhal
That's kinda h
cunning wigeon
winged horizon
Kalene is p good
pastel cave
Just gotta believe enough
earnest forge
No
pastel cave
earnest forge
Swap wu kong for tarnos
pastel cave
With the power of friendship
Nah
I swap wukong for cruke
If i built cruke over vei
earnest forge
Cruke already mythic
pastel cave
I'd have 4* vei and be very happy
Now i get 4* cruke
Which is like +40 accuracy
Vs 9% phys reduce
earnest forge
I have vei
wise axle
if i have 3 copies of wukong and 3 copies of flora atm which shud i aim to trade with
earnest forge
Wu kong
wise axle
will i be able to get more wukong in lab store or flora in chally store before swap event ends
hmm
earnest forge
Hes useless
earnest forge
Flora has use in cr
earnest forge
Wu kong is just dead cele
earnest forge
Thanos
earnest forge
You can build framton in New shop
wise axle
and i think i thought i had enough time for puzzle event to get one more flora
but nope dindt have enough time for labs
earnest forge
Fram in shop
marsh mauve
1 a month
marsh mauve
1 year
earnest forge
👍
cedar rose
Does anyone happen to have a powerful Vyloris?
marsh mauve
winged horizon
what does thanos even do
earnest forge
Yep
winged horizon
ive never seen him used
marsh mauve
what does thanos even do
No idea
winged horizon
forest sleet
okayyy game reset
clever dagger
April 1st where events
runic karma
I’m ready for everyone to swap out wukong then next awakeneds gonna be new wukong
frank narwhal
Sir it is March 30 or 31st depending where you are
clever dagger
Sir it is March 30 or 31st depending where you are
let me have this moment of ignorance
slender tapir
make march 30 days
frank narwhal
Hi lab slave
slender tapir
hello
frank narwhal
let me have this moment of ignorance
No, perish
clever dagger
No, perish
frank narwhal
wanton niche
I’m ready for everyone to swap out wukong then next awakeneds gonna be new wukon...
That would be awesome
I support this fully
This
clever dagger
no give wakey athalia
forest sleet
April 1st where events
sweet its tomorrow for me then
earnest forge
March 32 tomorrow
glad breach
It's past reset by 18 mins
earnest forge
👍
frank narwhal
Can't wait for March 33rd
glad breach
glad breach
They need to normalize months to be equal days then make new years its own day.
Without a month
frank narwhal
What
earnest forge
They need to patch the date system
glad breach
I don't remember the denominators
glad breach
What are the prime factors of 364?
earnest forge
Ask chatgpt
earnest forge
We have like 10 originally
But some mf add 2
Cause he feels like it
July and August is a lie
glad breach
If people can't figure out when the seasons happen by day number they're hopeless.
September should be 7th month not 9th
clever dagger
each month moon cycle
glad breach
Only approximately
earnest forge
October 25 is the real December 25
glad breach
Isn't the lunar cycle like 28 days?
earnest forge
And it'll go lower by 2 months each year
clever dagger
Isn't the lunar cycle like 28 days?
29.5
glad breach
earnest forge
.53
clever dagger
mb
earnest forge
So 30
clever dagger
29.53059
glad breach
5 significant figures please
forest sleet
can't wait for April 00st next week
glad breach
Then you still got 5 extra days
forest sleet
i think u mean March 32st
glad breach
Pronounced thirty-sext?
ornate meteor
Any news abt the engraving event?
glad breach
earnest forge
Good way to teach people to not engrave wu kong early
I've seen people e60 their wu kong
Like why
winged horizon
wukong is goated #neverswap
winged horizon
monkeys can be goated
wise axle
no
wise axle
monkeys r monkeys
glad breach
I won't swap Wukong
wise axle
goats r goats
wise axle
I won't swap Wukong
wju
glad breach
wise axle
nice of em to think of the 10k dimaond part
glad breach
ig 10k dia is better in that case
I am swapping but it will be 4f
clever portal
ig 10k dia is better in that case
Hes a kraken ofc he doesn't need the swap
wise axle
oh ok
glad breach
Drez is e80
wise axle
lol
glad breach
Was for HF
wise axle
thats pretty good
glad breach
But I don't care about that mode.
wise axle
lots of resources
glad breach
So now Astar will be e80
wise axle
clever portal
almost 1T
wanton niche
So now Astar will be e80
Palmer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857329415330725906/1034158501192286238/991702010514636881.gif
wanton niche
@frosty salmon
glad breach
Inoz is probably asleep
wanton niche
glad breach
Like 3 or 4 there
ornate meteor
Good way to teach people to not engrave wu kong early
Me who engraved thoran 60
ornate meteor
Waste of e60
By a mistake
clever portal
how about a swap mistake for tomorrow 
static rivet
how about a swap mistake for tomorrow <:areyouseirus:663985754438893610>
I'm gonna swap my wukong for vyloris
Also ramb where
tranquil atlas
Said Palmer already e65 and 12f
old man deserve stat
wise axle
fk can i refund this flora from chally shop?
glad breach
old man deserve stat
wise axle
think i shud exchange wukong instead
wise axle
sad
static rivet
xd
main tree
Damn might hcp new mauler
lament bluff
safe panther
I want a button that allows you to immediately claim 10k diamonds.
I need more copies of Crassio.
lament bluff
Hey is it confirmed that we can only get 1 awakened choice chest from the new event?
safe panther
Not sure but you will be guaranteed a chest.
earnest forge
I hope not
clever dagger
It specifies that ‘You can only claim one’
lament bluff
Hi Kitteh do you have Abelinda built?
cunning wigeon
@mossy grove ocean's zest hidden dish
safe panther
Hi Kitteh do you have Abelinda built?
Only Mythic, still working on her +30.
clever portal
<@480803690140270592> ocean's zest hidden dish
cunning wigeon
vip25 secret event
clever portal
this nightmare Corridor is so unbelievable.. region 2 top 89% is avg. 5 min .. while region 7 there are ppl who has 4 min avg , still on top 200 , this game mode needs to be fixed 
cunning wigeon
tranquil atlas
Almost lost it
cunning wigeon
senpai avg 6.9 secs fosho
languid cedar
this nightmare Corridor is so unbelievable.. region 2 top 89% is avg. 5 min .. w...
It’s fun!
languid cedar
<:katsos:735354866662113280>
Wait, wait. But you is vip25. Why so low
cunning wigeon
I dont have crassio build sadly
use trial 
brazen storm
so I'll have 2 sets of t4 if I swap to brutus?
wanton niche
no
lament bluff
Which round uses Crassio?
tranquil atlas
Was round 6 but not anymore
wanton niche
He’s aggressively middling
lament bluff
Saving his trial so I can use him for 2 bosses
Should I merc Abaden or Abelinda for this new mode?
tranquil atlas
Yes
tranquil atlas
chef
vapid void
What should my main team be for campaign?
lament bluff
Daimon Oden Brutus Aezizh and one healer like Nevanthi Palmer Silas etc
prime isle
Should I merc Abaden or Abelinda for this new mode?
L abel does enough
vapid void
Daimon Oden Brutus Aezizh and one healer like Nevanthi Palmer Silas etc
No rose or Lucretia?
lament bluff
Lucretia needs SI 30 to carry
Rose is a bad healer
Not useless just bad at your stage of the game
vapid void
Fair but Lucretia consistently outperforms daimon in damage
lament bluff
It's cuz your Daimon is underleveled and low ascension
Lucretia is M
Make him at least 20 levels above the rest and there will be noticeable difference
vapid void
He’ll be my carry when I get more copies but all I can get is rose and Brutus at this point
Lol
lament bluff
Just try to clear more content and it does takes time to get copies the game is designed to grind
vapid void
My celhypo luck has been hilarious so far same with awakened
lament bluff
Although it's becoming harder to harder to ascend one specific hero early as they add more new heroes
lament bluff
Aezizh is useful early
vapid void
True he’s been good
lament bluff
Put him against the most troublesome enemy and he will CC them at the start
agile plover
Is Silas good for lv. ~160-180 campaign?
lament bluff
Like Safiya,Eironn etc
vapid void
What u think of my cels xddd
lament bluff
Did you get them from normal scrolls?
lament bluff
Not the best ones but celepogs are celepogs
vapid void
True
sacred turtle
I just pulled 250 tg and got 7 Belinda copies and 30k diamonds
vapid void
They’re be useful someday
stone bane
lament bluff
I just pulled 250 tg and got 7 Belinda copies and 30k diamonds <:ardenS:57467745...
Decent rates
sacred turtle
It’s a rate of a Belinda every 30 cards
lament bluff
what to choose
I would choose Elite stones but scrolls are also OK
stone bane
thanks
rain bay
Stones always better imo
lament bluff
Yeah have seen some who ascended Abelinda with only 300 Cards
lament bluff
kindred harness
Imagine if the swap event was just an April fools joke,LoL
rain bay
@lament bluff
zealous mulch
Me who ascended swolise with 300ish cards:
Also me who has been hitting pity for nearly every abrutus copy I get:
lament bluff
<@592821332316520478>
lament bluff
Can't be real. Hacker
lament bluff
rain bay
I've had such bad luck earlier in life this game is repaying my bad luck with good
My sg rates last year were nuts too
Furn luck not so much
But sg and time cards is high luck
lament bluff
My Awakened rates suck. Doesn't even have 2 awakened yet
rain bay
Lol
lament bluff
Hopefully I can get that awakened choice chest to get Athane to A
lament bluff
I have only got one decent Awakened in Abelinda from tavern pulls
rain bay
I've gotten swolise two stared from normals snd stones
lament bluff
But that one copy is hella useful
rain bay
And an extra brutus baden thane
rain bay
Lol
lament bluff
I don't have Abaden I can't even swap for him
Doesn't matter tho since I like Abrutus more and 'm swapping for him
Most likely I won't even get into legend in CR anymore since a lot of people are getting Abaden
lament bluff
Abrutus more thicc sry
earnest forge
Good code
lament bluff
Where
earnest forge
Gave me maetria copy in sg
lament bluff
Is Maetria without e60 enough to kill the boss in last round of DC?
languid cedar
dc?
earnest forge
Gave me 50 spice materials
Nice chest
earnest forge
wanton niche
Not sure tbh
earnest forge
NC
lament bluff
Cooler name
earnest forge
Idk
lament bluff
Not much of a difference between CR and New Mode
wanton niche
But NC seems much less forgiving
earnest forge
As long as i get the red card in NC I'm good
tranquil atlas
25 today , 57 by reset
lament bluff
I would have preferred a more unique mode
wanton niche
Nah, it won’t change that much in my region
frosty salmon
<@539436714632937473> <:rakuhmm:849044246342533120>
wanton niche
Palmer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857329415330725906/1034158501192286238/991702010514636881.gif
frosty salmon
No
lament bluff
I am in region 5 Diamond 2
frosty salmon
main tree
Enjoying new mauler
wanton niche
He is almost fully built already, no point
What do you need Astar for anyway?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857329415330725906/1034158501192286238/991702010514636881.gif
lament bluff
Enjoying new mauler
You are only 40RC above me but I am stuck at floor 510 lmao
frosty salmon
What do you need Astar for anyway?
Any other viable options? Astar is Cr ts sometimes
lament bluff
What is Astar's best comp in TS? I can't find a place for her
wanton niche
I don’t remember the rest of them, only that Belinda and Palmer weren’t e80
wanton niche
What is Astar's best comp in TS? I can't find a place for her
As a sub for Tarnos in Solise team
wanton niche
Any other viable options? Astar is Cr ts sometimes
Anasta has a huge round this boss too as main damage dealer, if you went Anasta in R3
main tree
You are only 40RC above me but I am stuck at floor 510 lmao
Ive started the push from 627 lol
lament bluff
My only decent maulers are Kren and Drez but Drez sucks
tranquil atlas
Any other viable options? Astar is Cr ts sometimes
No real hero in need
Can even take the 10k diamonds
frosty salmon
wanton niche
lament bluff
Suffering from success
frosty salmon
tranquil atlas
Success is suffering
topaz crescent
topaz crescent
Success is suffering
swap zinkus to titus pls
rancid garnet
frosty salmon
peak ledge
That's cool how?
frosty salmon
hax
lament bluff
I will miss Whalene 
brazen sonnet
@jade wasp ah you found the braindead reddit thread on pet pull rates I see
brazen sonnet
I wanna make this into a copy pasta
brazen sonnet
I found it before but tonight I am burning karma
prime isle
Should i build palmer or nevanthi first
brazen sonnet
Should i build palmer or nevanthi first
I feel like palmer probably
jade wasp
Palmer
Like honestly Nevanthi is good and all but if you don't have a stack of whale units a lot of her upgrades aren't going to shine
tardy compass
@winter nexus can I merc ur wutus
worthy ravine
Nevanthi needs a lot of investment
brazen sonnet
Palmer is just so universally good too
worthy ravine
I'll take palmer first
lament bluff
Does baits have a pity?
prime isle
I feel like palmer probably
Okay
worthy ravine
Does baits have a pity?
Pretty sure like 6-8 multi pulls
Never beyond 10 multi pulls
prime isle
Should I swap this thing for palmer
brazen sonnet
Ok another dillema for you: Olgath or Tarnos? 
brazen sonnet
Should I swap this thing for palmer
Show ur full box
The answer would be maybe until we have more context
prime isle
brazen sonnet
Tbh ur kinda missing solid dps for palmer to boost
prime isle
Yeah idrk
brazen sonnet
I will swap it with eorin i guess
Why eorin? Like he is good and all but not top priority
prime isle
I need suggestions 🥲
worthy ravine
Yeah top supps is prio anyway kekw
brazen sonnet
@prime isle scarlet maybe needs love. If you decide to rly focus her then maybe swapping vurk for palmer would be worth.
lament bluff
No Awakened yet?
prime isle
<@456226577798135808> scarlet maybe needs love. If you decide to rly focus her t...
Hmm yeah
brazen sonnet
Thoran honestly could be swapped to but if you use cheese a lot then keep him
prime isle
I don’t use cheese a lot I may swap him
brazen sonnet
U can always build him again without the e30. He doesn't need it
brazen sonnet
@prime isle one choice would be swap thoran (or vurk) for palmer, then get scarket to at least 309e30.
They would be a good combo.
Palmer's best friend is abelinda, but idk where u are at with time cards
jade wasp
Does baits have a pity?
Baits have a progressive pity system which is different from SG / TE.
brazen sonnet
@jade wasp it also has spice buildup, which so many peiple don't consider when they calculate rates
mystic mango
@sage cove this is the best I have so far for NMC. Merc Waden, umami to kill 5 and 6. Have you tried yet? Any suggestions for improvement?
prime isle
<@456226577798135808> one choice would be swap thoran (or vurk) for palmer, then...
Ah okay I’ll 100% swap thoran as I have no need for him, vurk genuinely does some decent damage for me in the tower
jade wasp
<@111631263592386560> it also has spice buildup, which so many peiple don't cons...
People don't calculate anything, it is all vibes.
brazen sonnet
I started to lose my mind continuously having to explain to ppl that the 1 in 300 rate accounts for spice build up, which they just continued to ignore.
brazen sonnet
People don't calculate anything, it is all vibes.
Exactly
jade wasp
Pets also have progressive pity which is a terrible mechanic that feels awful, especially with low rates.
brazen sonnet
Yeah even if the rate is comparable to sg, I get what u mean
jade wasp
People attach numbers because they feel like they have to be to be taken seriously but it's all vibes
The feedback is just 'these rates feel awful' and yeah, they do.
brazen sonnet
Oh well. If ppl want to lose 75 bait exchanging for 1 spice just let em I guess 
jade wasp
If you design slot machines your entire job is figuring out how to get the idiot in the red hat to leave the casino both down money and happy because they had that big spin and hot streak
brazen sonnet
jade wasp
Progressive gacha ensures the gambler never has a hot streak
You actually want to juice the first pulls after a hit and put a trough in the middle with a pity to break bad streaks
main tree
Welp time to wait and put gb tower to 3 teams
jade wasp
Basically given some mean, what is the maximum variance you can put in your distribution without extreme cold steaks that make people quit
brazen sonnet
I dont care rly about a lack of a "hot streak" tbh. Not with pets anyway. It is a long grind for resonance anyway.
jade wasp
I don't either, but I record data and do statistics, I am not the target customer for gacha mechanics.
brazen sonnet
Its not like with awakened heroes where a hot streak can get u better account performance instantly
wise fiber
oh the upgraded vip codes are here, nice 
brazen sonnet
oh the upgraded vip codes are here, nice <:daimonsip:776823865099026502>
What do u get?
jade wasp
And yeah pets are a huge grind where LLN kicks in for everyone before it matters anyway so who cares
wise fiber
brazen sonnet
Wow not bad
brazen sonnet
Ok but for real I need input:
Olgath or Tarnos?
wise fiber
uh
jade wasp
When did they expand the stargazer monitor mechanic where you can see other people's pulls to lower VIP BTW. Missed it in patch notes.
wise fiber
why are they in competition with each other
brazen sonnet
why are they in competition with each other
Because I have 400+ gazers and idk who to build
wise fiber
When did they expand the stargazer monitor mechanic where you can see other peop...
bard tales is public for everyone, the one showing up in tavern is like, vip 13 or something?
brazen sonnet
Swapping wu for fram so I don't need to worry abt him anymore
jade wasp
Is that what it is called? Shows up in Stargazer and ToT.
knotty edge
no bard tales is just the newsfeed
brazen sonnet
My hypos r kinda sad tbh
wise fiber
Is that what it is called? Shows up in Stargazer and ToT.
that thing is like vip 12 or 13 or something i think...?
i can't find it but i'm pretty sure you had to have spent like, more than $10 to see it
brazen sonnet
i can't find it but i'm pretty sure you had to have spent like, more than $10 to...
Wait real?
jade wasp
Never saw it until last patch I think and I've been vip 12 for over a year.
knotty edge
it was 13 i dunno about it being lowered
wise fiber
Because I have 400+ gazers and idk who to build
oh, i saw tamrus lol
wise fiber
i mean, if olgath stays in NC, it might be a good build, but the problem is he's in r1 right now and r1 is the one that's gonna change other weeks
brazen sonnet
oh, i saw tamrus lol
Oh no lmao. Blue man
wise fiber
They finally realize its pointless
oh lol did they change it, that makes sense why people are suddenly seeing it
yeah it makes no sense
don't you WANT people to see other people's success? to bait people?
and then there's always the shemira summons that are just funny
jade wasp
Yeah that was a dumb feature to vip gate
brazen sonnet
I had no idea it ever was behind paywall
brazen sonnet
i mean, if olgath stays in NC, it might be a good build, but the problem is he's...
Is tarnos used outside of TS tho?
jade wasp
I like Tarnos for rift
brazen sonnet
I guess there are heroes like audrea too but she is in like one CR round (sometimes) and burst
wise fiber
if your goal is only 800, there's like countless tools for rift
lament bluff
Olgath because he is cooler
jade wasp
Yeah but you are comparing to Olgath
wise fiber
burst basically dropped audrae lol
jade wasp
Audrae is not going to survive much longer
wise fiber
i mean sometimes subbed back in 7 comps depending on what you have, but a lot of people dropped
i've seen olgath be a replacement even, although i don't know how it performs
think he's better in other comps
if i had to choose NOW i would build olgath, but with 400 cards i would not pick either of those lol they're too subpar
brazen sonnet
I think olgath showed up 1 CR round too
wise fiber
i merced a 309e30 olgath this week, he did nothing for my NC score
brazen sonnet
if i had to choose NOW i would build olgath, but with 400 cards i would not pick...
So you'd wait for next cel/hypo?
wise fiber
the new mauler did way more for me
lament bluff
I think Olgath has more potential
wise fiber
i mean obviously if you have e60/e80/e100 that's a different story
wise fiber
lmao
i don't even have frumpy e60
i'm very tempted
but
i'll be doing it for campaign and that's stupid
brazen sonnet
Doesn't he need 309e60
wise fiber
not really...?
lament bluff
Where is Framton used? CR?
wise fiber
i mean it might give me some ranks in TS but i dunno i don't use him there that much
in CR he doesn't need for sure
brazen sonnet
Where is Framton used? CR?
Not CR lol. Not anymore
jade wasp
Olgath has some potential for NC and other places with a high number of fights but he's really nothing special.
brazen sonnet
He is in TS, GH, and Trift
If I am gonna have a 5* frampton tho I might as well e60
wise fiber
NC shows wokelene and olgath in top ranks because top rank people have e100's while regular heroes max at e80 lol
jade wasp
Framton is awesome nothing wrong with a big framton
wise fiber
If I am gonna have a 5* frampton tho I might as well e60
oh god don't remind me
jade wasp
I'm gonna have a 5* Tarnos so I know how it feels
lavish verge
brazen sonnet
I guess I can just save my sg for next cel/hypo.
jade wasp
Stargaze Belinda stars
brazen sonnet
If they suck I cam get olgath. Or maybe he will end up being NC core
peak ledge
My wu is A5* 209
E1*
lament bluff
Need to build twins first from dream store. I don't have the facilities for either Framton or Zaph