#golden-frontier-chat

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surreal gazelle
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If without weather debuff

inland halo
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I think it was around 1/5 of the garrison power last time

tall hare
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Thank you very much for your answer, you really helped me understand the mechanics of the game that are not written anywhere in the game instructions!

  1. But there is another question, please tell me, do you know what specific formula from numbers is used to calculate the decrease in endurance of units during battles?

  2. Is there a decrease in such indicators as "speed", for example?

  3. In general, in the game itself, not only in this mode, how much can the "speed" of enemy units be reduced, can it be less than 1/100%? How does this work in the game? I am very interested in fully understanding all the mechanics of the game!

  4. There are also many questions about such indicators as "evasion", what formula is used to calculate the hit of physical damage to a character in the ratio of the difference in "evasion" and "accuracy" between characters?

I once watched a character dodge 7-10+ times in a row in a replay here in AFK Companions, I was very pleasantly surprised by such luck!

warm python
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I have no info regarding that. The lack of clear info makes it complex to determine what's going on. Plus the RNG factor

wicked dawn
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Goes the 1/5 power rule for every tower?

warm python
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It normally does. Can be smaller too

wicked dawn
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Thank you very much πŸ‘πŸ»

inland halo
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Seems like more whales equates to needing less power. We just took a lv 6 with less than 1/10 the power of the garrison

wicked dawn
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How is it possible that a 719m t6 only needed 70000k power troops?

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And there werent even many whales

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Just 2

frank crow
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Oh that's wild. We did it with 130k

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In an hour tho

polar vigil
# wicked dawn How is it possible that a 719m t6 only needed 70000k power troops?

impact of spirit power
impact of level diff
enough players teams to stall when the whale teams are "recovering"

like if the whale teams are bruteforcing 10-30 wins in a row easily and fast - and the others are able to hold out - its nice

but morelikely than not you might suffer with weak players a breakthrough from ai, pushing through you and the whale most likely cannot undo the damages done and slowly while recovering you lose.

so probably also quite a lot of luck

polar vigil
wicked dawn
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Allright good to know thank you for this very informativ text πŸ‘πŸ»

inland halo
tall hare
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"You cannot mobilize troops to towns you have no connection too (AKA cut/uncut)"

  1. Must be cut road?
  2. TO town, ΠΎΠΊ, that about take from that town to another?
frank crow
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Hi yall whats the math on flooded cities

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Someone said 80% so if I were to attack one would the 1:4 rule still apply thanks ^ ^

inland halo
frank crow
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That's what we thought!

inland halo
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Not 100% on it though

frank crow
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Were number one in prosperity in our expedition and I just dont wanna lose it haha im like nooo today is a day to defend

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I thought it was that haha.

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But yeah ill confirm with someone else

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Thank you

inland halo
frank crow
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Thanks for tagging them. Ive never talked to them so I didnt want to be like hey stranger you don't know me but I read everything you say like its law haha

inland halo
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Happy to help! Best of luck with your expeditioning you got this

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@frank crow probably also knows

frank crow
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its the walls yah

inland halo
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@frank crow

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The 🐐 has responded

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More than just the walls would be dumb for a rng feature

frank crow
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Thank you! Yall

frank crow
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Everyone in this discord has been hella friendly ❀️

prisma ivy
tiny spindle
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What exactly are the factors to reduce enemy numbers during the siege? Breaking walls and killing them several times? Specific dmg to walls? Specific siege %?

inland halo
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Moral??? Maybe

lusty terrace
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These peeps

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I wanna know your opinions guys

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Im in Alliance League

frank crow
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so much drama

lusty terrace
frank crow
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im pretty sure all regions team up and share the tree, except yours i guess? thats weirdbitchpr_think

proper nimbus
# lusty terrace I wanna know your opinions guys

Feels like Lilith doesn't really want cross league teams/mergers but that's meaningless, people can do w/e they want as long as it's achievable within the bounds of the game. This seems like the expected outcome though, for one alliance to be met with another it's not about teaming up being bad but others outside of the existing alliance wanting to win as well

lusty terrace
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They got mad πŸ˜†

proper nimbus
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Then just fight it out 🀷

frank crow
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we dont really know what opinion you want umm... so you teamed up and the others want to team up against you, whats wrong with thatpopcorn

lusty terrace
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He answered it

lusty terrace
frank crow
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good luck then, rooting for architexbitchw_cheerful

lusty terrace
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We all just want to win

polar vigil
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they did us dirty

30x leaf = (10 weeks store waittime / 15k value)
10x leaf = (4 weeks store waittime / 5k value)

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i want to say sharing is caring but that is such an important whale res to kraken on - man belovedzikis khasosrun

warm python
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Aiming to claim both is not wise tbh

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Technically posible. You need a strong League and incredibly good and committed commanders so as to claim both.

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However, that means everybody else may as well team up to get them off you

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And that makes it harder to defend.
Basically greed can and most likely will break the hegemony of a greedy single league. At least on average population leagues.

polar vigil
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for sure - but lilith does force the issue to pvp

like they really make it hard to clean-up leagues / align together and want to discourage you from doing that

while also putting up candy at the end on the big target

warm python
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Not that hard to align

polar vigil
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smart choice will be defending the gilded city at the end

polar vigil
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because if you need to leave you lose 2d

warm python
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Many people choose that to join the best

polar vigil
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at the beginning fine but the later you do - the worse it gets

warm python
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Because the best should obliterate any other league so that they have no other choice.

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The social part of the event is nearly as important as the strategic one

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Like, being good at building bridges is tremendously relevant

polar vigil
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Yea for sure - you'll have way better odds pre-sharing with another league and splitting the map so that you end up with the cake of gilded city and tree already split up.

And force to kick out the 3rd league.

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But kinda sadge because at higher league sizes all really active players were able to fit

and there were plenty of ressources ++ rewards were better as you know so that you just farmed with as much t5+ gem veins as possible

(what you still do - but there seem to be less to take)

pallid raptor
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If 2 teams are attacking same city its whoever gets the last hit right? Not who has more cmbr?

modest dirge
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Also city hp the same for all league's

warm python
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How packed do you want it?

  • Yes
onyx spade
granite sun
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Does queue order matter much?

I bought the wilder queue expansion so I moved all my Wilders to team 4 and have a worse mauler team in the #1 spot.

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But now im worried it is effecting me. Like when I look at my loot logs I see that many people clear my first 3 teams then get cleared by my wilder team in slot 4 but if I had that team in slot 1 they'd have 0 wins. Is there any difference?

tiny spindle
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Yes, its best to place stronger teams first when defending from loot

tiny spindle
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What exactly are the factors to reduce enemy numbers during the siege? Breaking walls and killing them several times? Specific dmg to walls? Specific siege %?

leaden gazelle
polar vigil
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I found a new sharing strat @warm python

every Caravan can be taken by each league and the top 60 can buy it.

Meaning if you have enough tideshells you can cycle through t8 caravans for +5 wish leafs and 600 diamonds

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tho you're on a timer before the caravans are gone obviously

warm python
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Already knew that. In fact each caravan cam be bought twice

surreal gazelle
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How much minimum power is needed to defend a castle from another league's attack? Is there any calculation for this?

onyx spade
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I’d guess the same or more power than the attacking league

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It’s not the same as taking bot cities

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U gotta defend for 2 whole hours

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Or if u take their β€œwalls” down before that

leaden gazelle
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or at least try to def

tall hare
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@warm python What's up with this game mechanic?

  1. Does it mean that all units sent to attack, as well as all units that are placed on defense - first they all need to be sent to attack in order to spend 100 Shells so that they all start to be "without this debuff to reduce characteristics", and only then the units that should be placed on defense - send them from attack back to defense so that they do not have this debuff?

  2. Units immediately placed on defense, without spending 100 Shells, it turns out that they are all now with a debuff to reduce characteristics? Do you need to send them to attack - and then to defense, so that there is no debuff?

  3. What about mobilization to another city during defense? Even if the system does not put a debuff on those who initially defend the city, does this mean that they receive a debuff as soon as they mobilize to defend another city?

  4. Or do they receive this debuff only if they mobilize from defense to attack? And in this case, all units must first go on the attack to spend 200-800 Shells, they all become debuff-free and now they can be mobilized to other cities??

warm python
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  1. Yes
  2. Yes
  3. Yes
  4. No
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It is simple.

  • Attack with all units.
  • Cancel attack.
  • Attack or Defend wherever needed.
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That is all you have to do. After cancelling, the next attacks cost 0 shells.

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  1. Even if that were true, given the flexibility needed, every active member should follow the steps above to provide the League with useful units.
tall hare
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@warm python Got it, thank you very much for the explanation, it helped a lot! And in general, is there any full guide available about this game mode? Which answers such nuances of game mechanics?

warm python
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Nope. Just ask.

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I have led too many leagues and have been mobilizing since day 1.

Got quite some experience and tricks.

tall hare
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Okay, got it, thanks a lot again!

lusty terrace
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Why this event is so laggy? I keep restarting the game everytime during the war

tall hare
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@warm python Tomorrow it will rain and it will be possible only to send squads to attack. Is it possible to unite squads to Rally on 7LVL city from 2 cities at once, or it will be possible to do it only with those squads from which city the car with squads will go to attack, and squads in another city will be pulled and will not be able to attack?

warm python
tall hare
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Thank you, and one more question: I forgot how much strength the enemy units have and how much HP Wall they have at lvl 8? I can't look to calculate how much strength we need collect

onyx spade
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So if the enemy bot total power is 100m u want to have 25m in power in your rally

warm python
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Around 1.5B

tall hare
tall hare
onyx spade
# tall hare

U can only look at the details when the area is unlocked

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It’s the same as when u first take your first level 5 city

onyx spade
tall hare
warm python
visual plinth
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Guys, on rain you can rally from anywhere, right? The only problem is when you are defending cities

tall hare
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@warm python When it rains, we can send squads to attack at lvl 8 FROM ANY CITY SQUADS, or only squads from those cities that are nearby from lvl 8?????

polar vigil
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am not managaing much in that mode because its on a bad timer

warm python
wicked dawn
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For the gilded keep is 200m enough?

empty scarab
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Does anyone know what 'morale' is/does?

frank crow
# empty scarab Does anyone know what 'morale' is/does?

its like stamina, once its empty, the team goes back to the base.
Im not sure if the lesser stamina the weaker it gets though or how many battles it lasts/ what are the factors that make it lower, wait for someone who knows igbitchpr_think

empty scarab
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Thanks.

heavy garnet
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I "lost" 10 battles back to back, I replayed all of them and I won without even losing 1 hero homegalul

heavy garnet
heavy garnet
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well they always say that the replay button shows wrong battles in those scenarios, for what ever reasons, but I looked and the name, pets, heroes and all was good so idk tiduslaugh

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my team has 66% WR, it should be 91% it the replays aren't lying areyouseirus

empty scarab
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Hopefully they're not lying.

warm python
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Season.

mint fern
surreal gazelle
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If we isolate the enemy's city, will they still be able to send reinforcements?

warm python
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No, no garrison and no mobilization

wicked dawn
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Does golden oak gives some kind of buff?

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Or is it just for 2nd place ?

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If first dont take it

empty scarab
wicked dawn
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Wow thats huge

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Thank you

empty scarab
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No problem.

frank crow
wicked dawn
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Ye still every dia has some worth @frank crow

polar vigil
# wicked dawn Ye still every dia has some worth <@456226577798135808>

yea the problem is the golden oak unlocks in the last 14d

and you need 4d to reach it so as ianne said you only have 10d of it

which is like 70-80 diamonds at that pont == 700-800 in total

more useful for early players to stack some dust tbf.

gilded city has more "gem veins" that do actually drop chests with good loot and way better ending reward which gives you a good diamondvalue*

wicked dawn
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Ye you bouth are right i guess πŸ˜… city is enough πŸ‘πŸ»

empty scarab
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Does anyone know where I can read all the info on weather effects?

empty scarab
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Yeah, I thought there were 4 weather conditions though. Cloudy days, rainy days, sunny days, and one more.

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Is there somewhere I can read about those? I can't find the info anywhere in-game.

frank crow
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Sunny - no effect
Cloud - The day before storm (no effect)
Rainstorm - No mobilize, no garrison

empty scarab
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You might be right. So cloudy days show up kind of randomly then?

frank crow
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anyways after rainstorm, random cities will be flooded the next day (walls damaged by 80%)

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thats all the effects i know

empty scarab
inland halo
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This gamemode sucks so bad for deputies and leaders... this time is so late

heavy garnet
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600k until 120place

warm python
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We have built an easier relation on the map. I've got similar numbers to yours with 1 less team it seems

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Or two. Ive got 4 total.

leaden helm
leaden gazelle
tiny spindle
# leaden helm

Lol, over 25 mil xD show me his lineup please, how its possible 🫣

tiny spindle
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Thx 🫣 i am happy that I am from s176, wont meet him in fight πŸ˜‚

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Winrate 64,50% is still interesting xD

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This last several milions are a veeeery long way πŸ˜‚

alpine hollow
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The korean is even crazier lmao

leaden gazelle
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s75 hell

leaden helm
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Ur from the same server as my whale friend Sip

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He refunded everything and moved to classic tho lol

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So I take it you undertook the mantle of strongest player on ur server

heavy garnet
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S75 is really like region 4 in classic tiduslaugh

tiny spindle
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And was much stronger than everyone else

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Somehow I am the strongest now 🫣 but not in terms of the heroes unfortunately, but thanks to their levels

inland halo
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Expedition survey is live. Time to let them know how we actually feel lol

warm python
tiny spindle
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Hmm, i like expedition

inland halo
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We only have a right to complain if we fill out the survey imo

onyx gust
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Guys. I need help. How to win both cities or at least T10 city? We have a little bit more power than enemy blue league >150-200M. And also there is green league (250М), but they're stupid a little bit.

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You can dm me if you want

frank crow
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hope yall losebitchy_kiss

onyx gust
frank crow
onyx gust
frank crow
pallid raptor
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Is there a way to change expedition you are in? Not league, noticed we had a bunch of people just joining chat

polar vigil
onyx gust
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We have attack on our T9 city and we've left there 1/2 of the attackers power

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and have put all our power towards T10

polar vigil
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did your people rally before defending and then defend?

if you do not really your troops are only 85% as strong

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not sure if that is a smart move, you do not want to queue up to many waek players in a fight

onyx gust
polar vigil
onyx gust
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I've seen that you get debuff only when you haven't spent any seashells

polar vigil
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for attack you want really strong people, probably with the "bomber, divine envoy or like idk what the other good one was called" buff and have them fight

polar vigil
onyx gust
polar vigil
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and well if you watched a fight not all fight at once

even if you have 1100 vs 600

the 600 can easily win if they're way stronger teams

polar vigil
onyx gust
polar vigil
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hence you only want a lot of teams from like your "whales" because they have the whale vs whale fights at the start

and then you just want to have strong teams follow up in the normal takeover

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because if you have to many weak teams after each other, the enemy will break through

onyx gust
polar vigil
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had a fight with 400m in our favor

it looked like this:

onyx gust
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how?

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all were weak?

polar vigil
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had a defense with like 1/3rd of their atk looked like this:

polar vigil
# onyx gust all were weak?

not at all - its just bad luck coinflip for the t9, we were faster than the enemy but they got the last hit

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if you're at the end in a 1v2 vs 2 allied leagues its kinda rough and there are some risks you need to take.

inland halo
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oh that was for an Ai fight? Mine was attacking a city

polar vigil
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oh lmao no the atk was real player wrong screen scorchton was ai

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this was just lost because we focused the day before on the ai flip

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siege specialist*

thats the one you need on the wallers

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if your guys dont have the right spirit power card enabled dont let them attack

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like there are only 3 good ones

bomber, divine envoy and siege specialist - and if possible you want more siege specialist than bombers and envoys

onyx gust
polar vigil
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no if you have quantity with bad quality you lose

you need high quality with good spirit powers to break through defense

because denfense is that busted

Send your weaker teams and players to something else

Only the 5 strongest players for the vanguard fight should send all their teams

inland halo
polar vigil
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didnt take oath

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idk about that one

onyx gust
polar vigil
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most of our league dont have oath so thats why we prob didnt talk about it

polar vigil
inland halo
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It's basically a coin toss for a resurrect first time your team dies

polar vigil
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you need to send your quality fighter teams like the wilder team, the shalltear team or w.e. good teams you have

inland halo
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Goes for each team you have and each time they are sent out

polar vigil
onyx gust
polar vigil
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Yes, thats the part where you need to spam league mails and explain it as good as you can

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because otherwise no one will be able to follow that

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put notes on like "200 teams max"

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idk its called send command or something like that

inland halo
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yup

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I got tired of spamming league mails and teamed with another league

polar vigil
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like if you defend and enemy sends 600 troops you can deff them with 1/3 of it

onyx gust
polar vigil
polar vigil
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if they take the defensive spirit powers or divine envoy aswell

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even low teams can defend it

inland halo
polar vigil
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thats the hard part that you cannot monitor, where you need to trust the league and put good faith decisions in and make the call to put f.e. "250 teams in deff"

and just know because you explained 10 times and another time today - they'll take the defensive power if they deff

polar vigil
inland halo
polar vigil
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enough people apply to make up for fatigued people who just sit on free resources

onyx gust
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Idk man, it looks like we have only whales with 5+ squads, so weaker players shouldn't have more chances to be on battlefield

polar vigil
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well you dont understand it

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the lightbearer squad from the whales

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is weaker than the wilder squad from a non whale

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so its a waste of space

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a weakness in your offense

onyx gust
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it can be weaker only with lower morality

polar vigil
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you can have your vanguards send out their full squads, they can have their lb team in

but your other folks should send their 2 strongest teams and its good

if you only have people with 5 teams, then let them send their 3 strongest teams (aBrutus, aSolise and Dims)

polar vigil
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2 teams which is stronger

onyx gust
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so we can attack with like 1/3 of the enemy power with strongest teams?

polar vigil
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tell me

onyx gust
polar vigil
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yes

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so you cannot duplicate that team

but you can have another person have that team

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and if you only have players attack with 2 or 3 good teams

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and leave the bad teams to defend

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then you have better chances than sending everyone

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because the wall will stall you out

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losing teams will stall you out

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if you understand that and apply it to what i said, everything should make sense now with sending a bit less teams but STRONGER higher QUALITY teams

onyx gust
polar vigil
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if you only have one target and dont want your folks to split then only attack one target

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if you have enough folks leftover and they understand their task of quality vs quantity

and send their quantity troops somewhere else and their quality troops on the main target

then you can do multiple if you do not need to defend

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if you need to defend, attack or even multi-defend and attack

because its like a good checkpoint for attack the t9 then you defend it

onyx gust
polar vigil
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then send them to free stuff and put a command "no more than 50, no strong teams" or something like that

onyx gust
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will it be a bad idea if I will move troops in the beggining of the battle? like strongest to the needed locations and weakest for the defence. Or 15-30 minutes are crucial for battles?

polar vigil
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like if you have stronger teams, you do not need to fill up the gap as quickly and can get sometimes a few nice recovers aswell

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if you notice that you lose teams faster and are slowly getting out of teams and worried that the battle still keeps on for a while - yes you mobilize

but no usally you dont mobilize at the start of the battle

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like only if your league manages to f up in defense and you need to drag folks out to defend, then I guess you have a reason to do so

onyx gust
polar vigil
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on my f2p - gatekept tree homegalul

polar vigil
wintry fjord
polar vigil
wintry fjord
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True, either way it's been an interesting round of expedition. Poor Scorchton is just stuck in the middle of all this haha

polar vigil
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Yea, lucky that we were able to join up with ya folks-

Idk. would like to see use in the oath - but kinda feels hard with the matchmaker being as random as it is.

wintry fjord
onyx gust
onyx gust
leaden gazelle
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you can launch attack

onyx gust
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garrison

leaden gazelle
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nah you can't cross enemy territory

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for exemple

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in this cituation

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green can send garrison from zone 1 to 2

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but team in zone 2 can move freely in zone 2

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and same for zone 1

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i hope @onyx gust it help you

onyx gust
leaden gazelle
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because they are cut

onyx gust
leaden gazelle
leaden gazelle
onyx gust
leaden gazelle
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If the team is in zone 1 he can't go to 2 or 3 because the path to the city in zone 2/3 are cut

leaden gazelle
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Np

warm python
tiny spindle
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Interesting

onyx gust
warm python
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From test server

onyx gust
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I don't want frequent expeditions

warm python
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Expedition is permanent...

leaden gazelle
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Lots of new stuff

warm python
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5 days before season is over, new season enrollment opens.

onyx gust
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oh nooo

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so many nerves for this

leaden gazelle
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So it's none stop

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Not even day of for registration

onyx gust
warm python
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It's region based. So whatever region you have, those are your partners/opponents

onyx gust
inland halo
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But expedition isn't gonna be like month on month off?

inland halo
warm python
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As you can see in the pictures I sent, the enrolment is already open 5 days before current season ends.

Then, by the day season ends, the next one starts. I guess there will be one day in between. But that is the maximum gap it could have they way they've implemented it.

inland halo
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Anyone else claim the skin for this event and now it just disappeared?

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The hodge one

inland halo
inland halo
zinc whale
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Sharing is caring mohihug

inland halo
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Exactly

wintry fjord
warm python
onyx gust
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expedition must be once in 3 months and with rich rewards. It's so stupid to play it every month.

pallid raptor
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There is rain on the last attack of expedition or is it different from last expedition?

onyx spade
placid locust
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im starting to not like this mode at all, i kinda wanted it to be periodic like the guild events and VoT/AE

warm python
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Imagine how taxing it is for leaders

radiant sinew
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how do i turn on the auto join for expeditions

proper nimbus
radiant sinew
lusty terrace
onyx spade
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Jeeeez

topaz mantle
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I'm so confused

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I think none of the other leagues in our expedition are active?

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So we've got the oak and the castle and there's essentially no battles anywhere

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Is this just gonna go on for the rest of the season? Hitting all the other lil forts for the diamonds? 😩

warm python
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You should be grateful for having free diamonds.

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In other regions, leaders have to wake up at 6AM to mobilize under 2 hours of stress

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So basically, you have A LOT OF FREE resources with 0 effort.

topaz mantle
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Aye absolutely! Just hard to know what to do for the next week πŸ˜‚

inland halo
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+2

leaden helm
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+3

spiral plover
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Does anyone know what is the wait time between leaving a league and being able to join another one? Just left a league and can't join a new one until the "cooldown" is over, but it doesnt say how much it is

spiral plover
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Also when I try to join a league this message appears which is obviously not true

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And when I try to accept an invitation to a league this appears

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But it doesn't give me the time I will be able to join or anything

warm python
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New season out on test.

One night event finishes....the next morning it begins

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It has 200 floors total.
There are multiple of these portals around the map....unsure yet if each of them has a different set of floors/rewards or of it is the same thing

wicked dawn
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Does the map layout changed for next season?

warm python
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The Devs may not seem to understand the concept AFK

frank crow
warm python
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So 3k diamonds, 10 SGs and 10 wish leaves

alpine hollow
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Is that the SG rewards they were talking about? homegalul

warm python
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Also, max stamina is 6, so you have to play every 10 hours max not to waste it

alpine hollow
warm python
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Unclear on description, but I guess once

inland halo
#

10SG per month + 10WL per month is better than nothing I guess

warm python
#

The approximate amount of total energy needed to finish the 200 stages is 770+

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5 stages with 1 battle
10 stages with 2 battles
33 stages with 3 battles
10 boss stages with 1 battle
142 stages with 4 battles

Every 10 hours = 6 energy = 6 battles

You use one team per battle.

So technically, it should be quite easy to get all the battles in time if there is only 200 floors and not repeating floors each time you reach one of those portals.

According to their description, each new portal increases how deep you can delve into that dungeon. Starting at floor 60 tops as the event begins and unlocking floor 200 in the center ring.

frank cobalt
#

same mid and everything?

warm python
#

20th stages seem to be timed and also player limited.

What a dumb choice from Lilith. Making friends and comrades to fight and feel bad for achieve or not achieve rank 50/160

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It also seems that subsequent stages so not open till 50 members beat the boss?

heavy garnet
warm python
#

Event is over

polar vigil
warm python
polar vigil
#

I figured I had to do that one quick, but gz - not sure how you reached the 13k but half of s1 being your alts I'd think you found some sloppy things that lilith is hiding from us, like the upper limit for pulls.

warm python
#

Well, R1 has 4 leagues above 1B power

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Definitely insanely populated

steep pulsar
#

13k kills is wild

warm python
#

So, in the new mode every 20th floor is a boss with either 2 SGs or 2 Wish Leaves.

If the boss is not killed withing a timeframe, you won't receive those rewards, instead receive some shells and crap.

So, the whole league must be really involved in order to make it happens. And the involvement means, each battle has a 2 minutes timer till you can perform the next action, so in order to advance you have to spend some actual time in front of the screen.

Really weird mechanics.

inland halo
warm python
#

The portals start literally as you start on day one.

  • You have 6 stamina per team
  • max Stamina is 6
  • 1 stamina regens every 100 minutes (so 10 hours = 6 sta)
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It has total 200 floors.

it contains
5 stages with 1 battle
10 stages with 2 battles
33 stages with 3 battles
10 boss stages with 1 battle
142 stages with 4 battles

  • Each battle means 1 stamina point to spend
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Every 20th stage is a boss, which contains extra rewards (2 SG or 2 Wish Leave)

  • It seems, based on 1st boss achieved so far, that if 50 league members do not beat it, you don't get access to those extra rewards.

  • You cannot get past the boss stage until 50 league members defeat it.

  • The boss also has a timer. If the 50 members do not beat it before time is over, then you lose the extra rewards but can continue to the next stage

warm python
#

I posted a lot of pictures above that show most of these mechanics.

inland halo
warm python
#

Now that 1st boss timer is over we know that not reaching 50 kills = No extra rewards

warm python
inland halo
#

We shall see then

chilly ravine
#

Thoughts on golden frontier purchase value? An extra formation or two seems a nice investment, does it make a difference in final rewards if I'm already playing actively?

warm python
#

So, it seems that only 50 people can claim the rewards.

inland halo
onyx gust
#

@polar vigil hi, join our league 11 in the expedition

topaz mantle
#

I fear I should've bought the diamond oath 😩

leaden gazelle
#

Last season mail are still here

prisma ivy
winged herald
austere stream
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Hard to call it "boss" even πŸ˜‰

random thicket
#

Can someone tell me how to use the cannon? I understand using the cards. But what is the β€œcall for help”, and how do you aim the cannon

proper nimbus
random thicket
proper nimbus
glacial musk
#

Hi, is there a certain day once expedition begins that we can leave our current league and join another?

warm python
glacial musk
elder fog
#

hey guys i have a question to you people who already played this event in companions

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since this is the first time i play this event in classic i have a question regarding this situation:

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do we need to garrison our team to prepare for the enemies attacking rally or does our attacking rally attacks the enenies attacking rally?

polar wedge
elder fog
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ok so the rally caravans just go by each other and simply attack the cities

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and we still have to defend our city by garrison teams

warm python
#

You can mobilize during battle time, and so they can

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In that situation you ideally wanna brute force the attack and stall the defence as much as possible

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When you battle is won, then movilize all thag brite force back as defence.

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At thay point they are over since they attack is cuf off and they wont be able to mobilize to it anymore

warm python
elder fog
#

okok, its hard to give this information to the team members since my guild are only 40/130 members haha

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i think the deputies and leader should get a lot more relevance like moving teams from cities to cities and moving teams from rally to another rally etc

warm python
#

Well, Mobilizing is 90% of the event

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Not mobilizing makes of your league just warm bodies.

wintry fjord
#

Was it already known that if members of a guild sign up as individual, they may end up in different expedition regions?

proper nimbus
random thicket
steep pulsar
steep girder
#

any shadow realm enjoyers?

warm python
# steep girder any shadow realm enjoyers?

Nope. Useless mode with s tedious system.

They removed veins to add a method to obtain those same rewards if you are lucky enough to be part of an active League and also be top 50/160.

gloomy abyss
#

How does this event even work?

My league attacked the Dusk Keep at the same time as the opposing league. Even though we had significantly more power than them and I had a 100% win rate with others in my league also having similar or near perfect win rates we still lost the keep to the opposing league.

proper nimbus
empty scarab
#

Has anyone noticed that the walls seem to be destroyed faster than previous seasons?

pearl nexus
#

Hello guys!
I am asking you for advice. My guild and I are playing on the main server in Golden Frontiers. And we have three questions:

  1. What is team morale? How do players lose or gain it?
  2. How do battles happen in this mode? Why do I have packs of better heroes, but I only have 40 battles and 40 wins. While my guildmate has weaker packs, and he has more than 100 battles and wins...
  3. What happens when two guilds attack the same city? Why was our guild leading in capturing the city at first, but in the end it was not us who captured the city, but another league?...
    --
    Sorry, I use a translator and it was difficult for me to find the correct names for game terms in English to explain this correctly
granite bay
#

are there any league's not full?

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i can't seem to join one

empty scarab
granite bay
#

not yet

timid tusk
#

Hi. How do the end rewards work?

Both trees need to be occupied by the time the timer expires to get all the rewards for Crown's Reckoning?

proper nimbus
timid tusk
#

Also, just to clarify, if your league gets both trees, but you are below the top 60 in contributions, what would you get?

empty scarab
austere stream
#

Wonder if we manage to get tree this time

proper nimbus
timid tusk
empty scarab
lusty terrace
#

will there be penalty if the leader kicks you?

austere stream
#

No

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Only if you leave by yourself

lusty terrace
#

Okee

polar vigil
tropic lion
#

When it comes to garrison, players need to make their teams join a rally first -> cancel it -> join the garrison in order to avoid the penalty correct?

tropic lion
# proper nimbus yes

Got it. So even if the objective is to defend, one rally minimum is needed otherwise you're screwed

proper nimbus
tropic lion
#

Gotcha thank you so much man

polar vigil
#

afk arena classic reddit:

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"golden frontier is the worst event ever seen"

austere stream
#

It's not bad

onyx spade
#

Whoever came up with the idea needs to be questioned πŸ˜‚

lusty terrace
leaden gazelle
#

nnah just little whale look biger

lusty terrace
tiny spindle
#

Honestly, i really like expedition πŸ˜‚

elder fog
#

hey guys i have a question to the tacticians around here, what would you do in this scenario

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we are the green league (by far the strongest in terms of activity and power, brown hates us and only focus on attacking us while purple is doing their thing. Today we can occupy the tree safely and the gilded city against purple, should we full focus on attack and dont defend against brown (their leader is always mobilizing the whole league during command phase), or should we defend the lv9 cities and only take the gilded city and tomorrow the tree?

onyx spade
elder fog
polar vigil
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its so stacked up homegalul

errant ermine
#

Asking here too to be sure;

If two leagues attack the same city, and they get to the wall, it’s basically a coinflip on who hits it last, which gets it.
But, if league 1 attacks the wall and tears it down to 0% before league 2 reaches the wall, is it still a coinflip, or is league 1 assured to get the city then?

gloomy aurora
austere stream
#

Good to know, I never watch battles they are too early

errant ermine
light kiln
#

This game is broken

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The oath is stupid we have peeps level 240 with 1 formation throughout the entire expedition and we cannot kick cause it's not passed 3 days. Then on top of it you have guilds flooding leagues with bot accounts.

#

The broken frontier is what it should be called

austere stream
#

Whale frontier, no one can compete with 8 teams guys

#

Idiotic event to delete

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That's why ppl don't care about it and do t play it, totally waste of time

onyx spade
#

I’ve never felt burnout in a game before until I became a deputy in expedition πŸ™„

gloomy aurora
#

We all share the same feeling pal

warm python
#

Imagine that haha

austere stream
#

I know we fight with two of them 🀣🀣

warm python
austere stream
#

Yep 😁

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It's a constant fight , at least this time it's fun but still overall his event is trash whales vs f2p

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How we have any chance having 3 teams vs 8

gloomy aurora
polar vigil
gloomy aurora
# polar vigil coinflipping

It's a coin flip when both leagues touch the Wall. However, it's not a coin flip if one league hasn't touched the Wall while the other has already reduced it to 0%.

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Trust me πŸ˜‘ , I experienced this. Unless they change the mechanics hmmm 🧐

polar vigil
#

problem is, touching wall with locked cannon strats is piss easy

errant ermine
#

In classic we’re having our very first golden frontier. The explanations in game dismally bad πŸ˜‚

polar vigil
#

not sure how pvp is in classic but if your arena/ts stuff is similar you must be used to being around lvl 360-410 no - so having to fight early at around lvl 240 must be a weird one xd

elder fog
errant ermine
#

tomorrow we're duking it out for the city

austere stream
#

Yeah, 360 is max

elder fog
#

hey i have a questions

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do we get the reward today or do we have to defend it for 8days?

warm python
lusty terrace
#

How useful the Spirit Power Siege Specialist?

austere stream
#

It will be fun the last week of it 😎

warm python
# austere stream It will be fun the last week of it 😎
  • The Green League on the South has only those territories with all of their troops inside.

  • The purple green on the right has only 2 territories inside with 80% their power and a few random unconnected on middle and phase 1.

Green on the left and back trailing purple is us NM
Below green on South, Mercy and Zero Mercy
The blue, also on the screen is AllMercy.

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Call that fun is a bad joke lol

Your deputies and leaders will sweat blood on anxiety and pressure.

That will be relieved once sent back to spawn though

austere stream
#

This whole event is trash, because they add pay to win e tra squads. So really no one care about it

#

Who pay they win

warm python
#

Not even close to reality

warm python
# austere stream Who pay they win

Biggest Pay To Win players in our Region are in fact in GreenBoys and T1, which are allieds, and who are being obliterated.

So, no. There is P2W factors, but the course of the event is still based on skills such as strategy, leadership, social management, teamwork, cooperation and the list goes on.

light kiln
#

No it's just NM played there cards right and we didn't

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But 2vs1 we held out for a long time

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And no Montes we are not sweating or anything just enjoying

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We knew we where going to lose a bunch since it is 2vs1

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Don't matter how strong a league it it is impossible to fight against 2 strong leagues at once

light kiln
#

We knew how it was going to be as soon as we where in the middle of 2 leagues

warm python
#

To be fair, I offered Demonic a peaceful treaty before elections

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With the intention of providing the really active players the access to the top-end rewards

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Now that we are speaking here. Is it possible for you as a deputy to freely kick those willing to leave?

I never keep hostages when anyone asks me about leaving due to being placed not with the party of their choice

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Looking forward for your answer @light kiln

light kiln
#

Where not holding anyone

warm python
light kiln
#

Ok

#

At work it might be slow in responding

tame inlet
#

Please tell me how the siege in the golden frontier goes when the city occupied by my league is attacked by two others leagues at once? Do their troops merge into one? Or do our troops split into two parts? Or do two different battles take place simultaneously and can they be commanded separately?

empty scarab
polar vigil
polar vigil
#

homegalul f2p looting is different

errant ermine
#

Quick question… during the rain, you can’t mobilize your troops to a city, but does the mobilize cars still work then? Or is that also disabled?

empty scarab
robust salmon
#

Cards does not work either

empty scarab
#

You can man the cannon, but you can't play the mobilize card.

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Beat me to it, Ross. πŸ™‚

errant ermine
#

Thank you! =)

#

Need to play it more patiently then πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

wind spear
#

Anyone that managed to kill Shemira from floor 175?

steep pulsar
austere stream
wind spear
glacial sapphire
#

Really with what team at 200 only got her to 77%?

polar vigil
polar vigil
#

like 10th-ish

wind spear
#

I asked because no one managed to beat her few days ago

polar vigil
#

just use a dps mage like in other events marci/trishea + utility

wind spear
#

After each kill Shemira is weaker

polar vigil
#

yea i get that lol

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but my f2p is pissweak

wind spear
#

So I was only interested in a comp that could beat Shemira without being weaken (luckily I've tested some comps myself and I was able to beat her)

polar vigil
#

that comp manged to beat 175 as 11th or 12th

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its like a5 marci, a4 mira, a5 sonja, mythic talene and a2 belinda

(now a5 mira, a3 belinda - but at that time a4 and a2)

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talene/sonja healing - belinda dps/crit increase and semi dps herself and mira/marci dps

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so on a whale it should be even easier to beat lol

wind spear
#

I wonder if they are tanky enough for first kill

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I tried to use Talene but she was insta killed

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(My Talene is Ascended)

polar vigil
#

if not you can just change into a brutus or thoran

or as whale into arthur

glacial sapphire
#

Wilders with twins worked on 175 trisha lyca solise nev twins

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Need ideas on 200

polar vigil
#

are you missing dmg or tankyness?

austere stream
#

How much enemy have strength at 175 I want to know ?

upbeat tulip
#

I used this to beat floor 200. Shadow realms

upbeat tulip
#

It worked for me first try. And I’m over here spamming the dim comp battles -.-

polar vigil
#

thought we kinda tried wilders already- but glad it worked

upbeat tulip
#

I did try wilders but not with the wilder buff arena -.-

#

Not too sure what was going on in my head at the time πŸ€”

austere stream
#

Nice power spike in power of enemy after flor 170 😁

wind spear
# upbeat tulip I used this to beat floor 200. Shadow realms

This is what I used. Twins could link Lyca and Trishea (hopefully), Mortas will buff Lyca first, then Trishea, ASolise is there for sustain. If your team dies (or any of your units) you could replace Mortas with Nevi (you will lose some DPS but hopefully it will be enough for you)

austere stream
#

Nice, 18k shels for fully recovery of flames

polar vigil
polar vigil
#

no iceshemira does this draining beam connecting to #2 spot

while doing that ice shemira heals

and mortas takes all healing an enemy receives

austere stream
#

Slowly progressing

austere stream
#

Someone take lvl 200 Boss?

polar vigil
#

those are the two comps that work for first clear

#

im here alone lmao

timid tusk
#

Hi. How long after the event ends do the Tree and Gilded city rewards get sent out?

inland halo
#

Iirc

timid tusk
errant ermine
#

Is it really true that only the top 60 in the league holding city or tree get the frames? =( I thought it was everyone in the league

austere stream
#

Everyone who get city or tree get border

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Top 60 gets skin

warm python
#

Some of the craziest inner ring pictures ever πŸ˜‚

austere stream
#

First time it's real fun in last week

errant ermine
austere stream
errant ermine
#

Not seen that in the list of rewards for us

#

But it’s our first time getting the event on classic, so might be because of that

austere stream
errant ermine
#

We don’t have that screen πŸ€”

#

Nothing about prizes here

#

But that’s probably just a version difference then

austere stream
#

It's show up on last week when city & tree are taken

errant ermine
#

We’re in the final few days - not seen anything

austere stream
#

Hmmm πŸ€”

inland halo
#

Expedition in classic is different

austere stream
#

Ohh

inland halo
#

It's like 95% the same and then they have random ui and small differences

#

Since it's a little newer there

slow flicker
#

Does anyone know the exact values of how many points each cities give in expedition? Thanks

warm python
#

T1-T4 are 1 point per

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T5 are 10

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T8 40

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Others somewhere between

#

Talking from the top of my head

slow flicker
twin bear
#

If two leagues attack the same city, how is the winner determined?

pallid raptor
#

I'm on floor 200 and closest i've gotten is 10.2% with celestwing, or 12% with deer, I tried putting better gear on my heroes and now my lyca and trish struggle to survive without changing anything else (have tried putting original gear on and nothing changed) any ideas?

mossy iris
#

Guys, can you tell us more about the following case? If 2 different leagues attack the same city. That's how the capture happens. I used to be told that whose league strikes the last blow against the wall is the league that takes the city. And how does this happen? In terms of attacking from two leagues, is there a general battle going on, or does everyone have an individual picture of the battle against the defenders? And at the same time, is the number of hp on the wall total or individual? I just want to get into it in more detail.πŸ˜…

austere stream
pallid raptor
#

i have all teams

austere stream
#

I drop her to 76%

gloomy aurora
pallid raptor
junior drift
# warm python

that is crazy, can u show a pic of today? wanna see what happened isathumbsup

wintry fjord
austere stream
#

Ascended twins 🀣🀣

junior drift
# warm python

ty isathumbsup tough one for u guys, u rly need to get the gate to get reinforcements, good luck last few days talenerise

austere stream
#

It's fun as hell for last few days 😎

#

Up to 60% max

junior drift
austere stream
#

Yeah

junior drift
# austere stream Yeah

try twins instead of mishka and put nevathi in the middle, they get mythic tier if u bought teams try wilders otherwise i think its unbeatable for u until someone weakens her

austere stream
#

Mine twins are e , they insta die

junior drift
austere stream
#

Yeah, I'm f2p

#

GG Lilith,making event for only paying πŸ–•

polar vigil
austere stream
#

Fantastic way to say f. To f2p players

polar vigil
austere stream
#

199 was easy but this is just unbeatable in time

#

She doesn't have DMG,just always out if time

polar vigil
#

yea so why'd you be frustrated about not getting 2 sg cards

junior drift
#

200 is also unbeatable for me dw isathumbsup we aint even got a t9

polar vigil
#

or w.e. trash there is

#

like i get its bs but like its less bs than in most other events

austere stream
#

What a point making event with can't be finished without paying?

polar vigil
#

99% of other events like celestial isles, magicians hat are a big f u to f2p

austere stream
#

Another greed move to lower player base with is lower and lower

polar vigil
#

what point even making celestial isles if you cant finish it

#

the whole game is a p2w gaccha

#

i completly agree on that

#

but golden frontier is the least p2w event imo

austere stream
#

Yeah sure every one can compete vs players with 8 teams she f2p have 3

#

At max

#

πŸ‘Œ

polar vigil
#

my f2p has a bigger contribution than most 6 player teams folks have

#

idk if you want to compare yourself to krakens that spent over 5k$ on a gacchagame and be frustrated about not being able to do the same thing, then you're playing the wrong type of game just saying

#

the whole game spam advertises p2w stuff in your face all the time, its the whole gimmick of gaccha lol

austere stream
#

I just stop care about it, login make daily log off

#

Dead game for me

polar vigil
#

just asking can you perma loot as a 3 team f2p, 8 team p2w?

#

yea all the time

polar vigil
austere stream
#

It stop being fun after they are greedy release Arthur ,a lot of players say fuck it and just stop play

polar vigil
#

agreeable the way t hey released him in pair of 15 shards wasnt fair lmao - still hated that

but imo the game is itself and the fun is the long grind itself

#

if you want to reach a goal set it yourself and dont be trapped endlessly

warm python
slow flicker
twin bear
#

How can you guys even determine in advance whether it makes sense to attack the city or not? Let's say there's a total of 400 million power in the city, and I have 120 million in the league. Will I be able to capture the T5?

warm python
junior drift
junior drift
austere stream
#

Done it ❀️

slow flicker
warm python
edgy fulcrum
#

Does anyone know where to find a detailed guide to the Golden Frontier mode?
So that there is information on what level of combat power is needed to capture a city (before and after the flood) relative to its defense. How to send troops to attack a city, is it possible to send AFK people to attack who do not log into the game, but their troops are in the garrison of the nearest city? And other questions.

austere stream
#

All Info above

inland halo
warm python
#

NoMERCY's alliance coping all commendation rewards. It was an interesting season.

Basically the inner ring was entered by its 3 doors by NM and its enemy alliance, T1 and GB. That gave an initial stronger inner ring presence to enemy alliance.

As days went by, the long term plan let all branches kick in and accurately remove back to spawn both, T1 and GB, granting all our Leagues access to commendation rewards.

From the plan and strategy standpoint it was a very fun season.

leaden gazelle
warm python
#

It was a challenge. Not only managing to obtain tree and city for 1st and 2nd, but also manage to make 3rd and 4th into top 3 and 4 when having 1/2 and 1/3 the power of the other enemy alliance leagues βš”οΈ πŸ”₯

rancid relic
#

Ain’t she pretty?

inland halo
austere stream
leaden helm
#

war!!!

warm python
#

This is the log from the private discord channel of NM about strategy and planning.

Casual 550 pages document just for the last season.

#

Which is the reason why we win each time.

Coordination, cooperation, planning and a very active player base willing to be part of the project.

#

GB and T1 had the biggest whales. However, we proved wrong your statement about how

Whaling > Everything

The Korean whale with T3 heroes and double ascended and starred Fabled Beast bite the dust

light kiln
#

Uhh no Montes it was about the same amount of power quit lieing you had whales also

warm python
#

We had more power because of more active overall players, bit the top 2 power whales were on fact

    1. Koren Whale (T1)
    1. Demonic (GB)
#

Those are just facts.

#

Regarding power:

NM 1800M
GB 1650M
T1 1500
M 1400

#

I basically never lie, there is no need to.

light kiln
#

Ya we had 1 whale in GB we most just bought formations but they where not whales

warm python
#

And that was exactly my statement. "You had the biggest whales"

polar vigil
#

Had to learn the hard way this season that power alone doesn't matter.

Controlling more puppet leagues in a efficient way does.

warm python
#

Our smaller leagues were quite decent tbh

polar vigil
#

If you can force the enemy into bad advantage 50/50 flips or split their city defenses its just much better and nag at them from behind all the time to split their forces.

Wears everyone out.

warm python
#

Our 3rd branch was over 1.1B power

#

Our enemy had multiple leagues too. Just played them poorly though

polar vigil
#

Because you know their steps will be most likely straight forward and they have way less actions and way less total power than you have.

polar vigil
warm python
#

3 powerful and coordinated ones should be good enough to garrison deeper and deeper

polar vigil
#

We won some intresting flips which lead to the enemies hopping between their league which at first made us mad.

But tbf. we got played like a fiddle and joined with them now to prepare together for regionals.

Kinda intresting but damn it wears ya out as leader if everyone "knows better" if you're loosing because you're getting nagged at from everywhere.

warm python
#

But planning is paramount

#

Our NM strategy was like days ahead

polar vigil
#

we were completly split in terms of map

and our 3rd league had barely 200-300M power

#

they put both 1.2B teams between us and seperated our ally

warm python
#

So, it was just a matter of time and of losing cities at some point just to end up getting the whole center and removing competition back to spawn point

polar vigil
#

we should've league hopped aswell but people wanted oath and were blinded by the small gain

warm python
#

Basically top 2 league on power ended up with 4 points on proliferation ranking

polar vigil
#

cant defend everything, espacially not with rain and floods

warm python
#

Which is astoundingly rough

polar vigil
#

ggs to you, you're deep into expedition and probably at the peak of expedition planing etc.

for me i learned i need to be a player or i will become mentally ill from doing all the do deeds of that planing - but everyone can and should enjoy different parts of the game ^^

warm python
#

Yes. Leading is so taxing.

mint osprey
#

I know you're busy stoking your ego but don't confuse sheer numbers with some sort of brilliant tactical strategy. Numbers. Thats it. Thats the strategy.

warm python
polar vigil
mint osprey
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Im not discounting the ability to bring a large group of people together. Success and a little name recognition always helps. But again thats just numbers. We didnt have 'whales' unless you count the couple dozen people spending $7usd on a couple extra groups. NoMercy and all their allies purchased groups as well. You literally had four pretty full leagues. You launched 4,5,6+ attacks every day. That just wasnt defensible. The only narrative being spewed is the one where they are geniuses for amassing a horde and winning coin flips at every turn.

warm python
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Well, you clearly do not understand the mode at all if your message above is sincere and not just yourself doing mental gymnastics

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I am not even gonna point out that your alliance was also composed by 4 leagues.

However:

  1. You were not enticing enough so as to fill them. Ooopsie.
  2. You were (as you mentioned above) geniuses enough so as to kick out every member out of one of your leagues, then close the applications and finally tossing the lead to a 7-day-AFK player.
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I recognised myself the mistakes we committed during the league. And, it is great to face with honesty, both failure and success.

It feel kind of tiring trying to read your league's whines based on your inability to manage the leagues you had, yet trying to point out the enemy (us) succeeding on that very same matter.

Top notch attempt of twist...only suitable for naΓ―ve members I guess.

mint osprey
# warm python I am not even gonna point out that your alliance was also composed by 4 leagues....

I literally have no idea what you're talking about. We (greenboys) were one league from thw get go. We had obligations to some other guilds and friends. They mostly joined up with T1. We did our best to honor those obligations but T1 was on the opposite side of the map from GB. We collaborated for all of 10 days. We made mistakes. You took advantage. You won the big prize but had numbers on your side the entire duration. Dont pretend like it didnt sway the greater battle.

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And no, no naivety on my part. Just calling out some delusional bs where I see it. We did similar for three seasons hut ran up against a 2000+ group wall by the end of this season.

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Anyways. Hope to see you in a day or two. gg and good luck

warm python
mint osprey
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640 players genius. x3-5 groups each. 2000 is the low estimate

warm python
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Why do you keep trying to justify your failure?

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It is ok to lose. Equally as good as winning. There is no shame at all.

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I recognize your efforts and endeavour. However, trying to justify the failure with random bs just makes you look pretty bad /shrug

mint osprey
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Im not trying to justify anything. Just making sure 'the narrative ' includes the total imbalance that this season was

warm python
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That is right. We had more power. But, you had also 4 leagues.

mint osprey
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We did not tho

warm python
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So, the only difference, as I mentioned above, is that you were unable to manage them properly.

mint osprey
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Thats just nonsense

warm python
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It

IS

NOT

mint osprey
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Oh he mad

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T1 and GB were two leagues. Not 4 I dont know where you are getting that from

warm python
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T1, GB, Fruit and ApexBlades

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those were lead by YOU

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The conversation is getting boring though. I can get you do either do not understand what happened or you are just trolling.

Both cases, the conversation is not really interesting at all. Night.

mint osprey
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They were against you but not lead by us. They were obviously very decimated by the time everyone moved to nm,gb,t1 . I dont think they even took themselves seriously lol

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Correction.. nmΓ—4 πŸ˜‚

mint osprey
inland halo
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Gonna be the first to say it

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What in the world are these regions

polar vigil
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Expeditions is becoming more and more of an xing/linked-in type of networking event lmao

inland halo
junior drift
ashen crest
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Every server that got abex season 3 is a single region now

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That’s how bad the population is

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That or how much scummy fomo skin bs Lilith is trying to pull now to get more people whaling for expedition stats

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It’s almost like selling them for $500 a pop didn’t work or something who knows

leaden gazelle
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Ahahaha

topaz mantle
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I know I'm the 100000000000000th person to say this, but GF is really ruining the whole experience

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It encourages toxic behaviours and ends up with people separated basically according to their $ input in the game

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And because of that stratification it's put big rifts between my server guild. Which has just made everything feel acrimonious and silly

leaden gazelle
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Yeah it's whale vs whale

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Because they pay

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And making face other whale make the whale pay more

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Just pure toxic

junior drift
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the mode is way too exhausting as well, every month a season of this bs is just too much

rancid relic
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They are finally merging some players from around your server (70s and 80s) this season though so maybe that crew will remain separate throughout the various leagues this season. It’s going to be interesting

spice thicket
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took me 2 minute just to swipe down all leagueless player ... all alliance 160/160

glacial sapphire
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Prolly players that enrolled and havent logged in for their assigned team

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Our leagueless is at 0

spice thicket
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They can not assign their team if there is no slot to join ...

glacial sapphire
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Yea something got messed up.

warm python
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Just Lilith making each season worse.
It has been a constant. Every season has been literally worst than the previous one, implementing changes that nobody asked for, which make the overall game experience worse and which imply less rewards.

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As if they liked to sabotage their own game.

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Our lobby started initially with 12x118 members

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Those were the players who enrolled previously.

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In 8 hours, the 12 leagues were at 160/160, which means 12x42 new players who didn't previously enrolled just joined the event.

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That is above 500 players in less than 10 hours.

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Imagine how big the leagueless player pool will be by the end of the event. Rendering as a result many players willing to participate but unable to do so

glacial sapphire
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overflowing leagues makes no sense, people getting shafted right off the bat

leaden gazelle
warm python
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May need a reword to: "Make it harder to participate since we are morons who placed 5k people in a lobby with 1920 slots"

glacial sapphire
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Thats honestly the wrong direction to take it, trying to put everyone with randoms. Should do mmr like every other game and put people with their appropiately skilled opponents. Rank top 4 prosperity every season match them against the same likeness of another expo the following season

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A legends league expo

radiant sinew
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legends league would go crazy

glacial sapphire
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The competitives fight competitives and the casuals fight casuals, everyones happy

glacial sapphire
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Our teams in our expo unfilled 130/160. Something odd happened

frank crow
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So guys may I ask. Why is it acceptable for people to run several leagues as leader with alt accounts to cheat in golden frontier?

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Our top 2 leagues are both lead by the same dude with the same name

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Who then uses the second league to 2vs1 the third

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Why is this allowed?

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We have 4 leagues targeting us specifically for no benefit to themselves. I wonder why?

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Support Doesent seem to give af. But none of us will spend a penny again on the event if this is how it’s run

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If this is acceptable then what’s to stop me registering for golden frontier with 300 bots ? At what point does it become cheating?

light kiln
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@frank crow was this last season?

frank crow
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This is now

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Today

light kiln
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Oh wtf

frank crow
light kiln
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Hehe I love my Lumi ❀️ ❀️

polar vigil
# frank crow If this is acceptable then what’s to stop me registering for golden frontier wit...

This is what golden frontier has become, controlling numbers.

Plenty people are unhappy with it. Idk whether Lilith would stop someone having 300 multi-accs.

But those who control the numbers control the frontier. Best you could do is being annoying and trying to control the outer circles as good as you can while collecting cities for top 4 - and t he best way to do that is mostly by sucking it up and cooping with them.

The only other thing you can do is trying to get enough leagues that are unhappy with it to hop into non controlled leagues and weaken their puppet leagues that way. And trying to throw them over. Tho I haven't seen anyone being successful with that. Since you'd do the same as them - controlling even more numbers or bringing them together.

austere stream
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One enroll into dead league, GG's

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Why we can't leave it for 3 day's 😭

junior drift
polar vigil
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Nezer again homegalul

ashen crest
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Lilith are coping to get outfit sales out of people buying frontier packs and base game packs to keep up vs all the whales thrown against in new mega regions

ashen crest
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4 months of sweaty spending competitions to make a good quarterly report and anniversary spending bump, people aren’t leaving see line go up

tired compass
light kiln
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?

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They need more abyssal then this game is becoming too toxic.

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They need to focus more on individual play not this. You can maybe do this once every 3 months or so not every month. More and more people are quitting because of this game.

ashen crest
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They should change the name from afk companions to no more afk all expedition all the time

austere stream
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First time expedition is fun

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It's finally cross server

inland halo
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I still believe we need an off month

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On then off

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Cycle with abex ---> meaning shorten expedition time

austere stream
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I forget we even have abex,it's like 3-4 months from last one?

ashen crest
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I imagine the fact they name changed it to expedition means there will be no more expedition

spice thicket
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So only 50 players can get limited time challenge ...

gloomy aurora
lusty terrace
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This limited time challenge Is this new?

leaden gazelle
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its new

slow flicker
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How does it work when multiple people attack a city already captured by a league?

leaden gazelle
lusty terrace
# leaden gazelle its new

they added a new feature, yet my region is so dead. What's the point of this challenge when your region has few active players? areyouseirus

ashen crest
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Thousands of leagueless players that can’t get the bullshit compensation rewards in dream realm for putting up with expedition after the bullshit dream realm patch

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We took away all your rewards, here have more rewards we already took away from you

chilly carbon
pseudo dock
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I’d like to see changes that make it harder for β€œsuper leagues” to form, so fights go on until the end:
β€’ No rewards at all if you switch leagues mid-season.
β€’ Shuffle guild placements on servers every time (to make collusion harder).
β€’ City durability shouldn’t reset β€” so even weaker leagues can eventually take a city by hitting it enough.
β€’ Don’t mix players who swore allegiance with those who didn’t.

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Teaming up into super leagues ruins the whole game. I just wanna see everyone fighting it out fair and square till the last day.

polar vigil
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Btw. how to loot "non-fakes" (avoiding the 50 tide shell loot)

Look at people who have lost significant %'s like 13%+ (usally at min 87% or lower)

== guaranteed loot

robust salmon
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If two leagues attack the same city, where will the troops of the losing league go? To capital or to the starting city?
And if capital is under attack?

pseudo dock
steep pulsar
lusty terrace
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Could you guys explain thisπŸ₯²

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How can we get 300 glory crests?

lusty terrace
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Thanks

polar vigil
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since people are stuck

did it this time with #1 cha, #2 albedo, #3 sjw, #4 laios, #5 marci + celestwing

did it last time with #1 twins, #2 aSolise, #3 lyca, #4 trishea, #5 nevanthi

junior drift
polar vigil
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having to 1v3 at the end again toomuchnemora

not sure what happend since i didnt take part in anything - so atleast its not tilting me too much - but damn - im not that happy about it

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i thought i connected all folks to a roundtable - and as far as i hear its a big bowl of betrayels again homegalul

this mode is not meant for me khasosrun

leaden gazelle
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ahaha

polar vigil
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khasosrun rough

leaden gazelle
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teh sunken are ally so ist 2v 1 again world class

junior drift
polar vigil
junior drift
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currently on track to get the first 100 points for the skin tho

random thicket
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Does anyone know how member β€œtier” works and how it’s increased exactly?

austere stream
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Leader give it

glacial sapphire
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iperx you didnt even get the good clip

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we are the peach 8 attacks on us that day

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the problem is we put all the logical people on the same team

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should have ran 2 teams

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and 2 betrayals

glacial sapphire
broken grove
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How do the races work? We fought for a city at the samectime as our neighbor league, had 11mil more power 20 more unrallied reinforcements more total kills and the other team won the city. We were ahead the entire time, they only had two lanes pushed up when we finished the walls yet they got the city. How is it calculated or did the game just bug and screw us?

inland halo
broken grove
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Thats the most braindead dev decision I've ever heard.

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Is that confirmed or just your suspicion?

modest belfry
broken grove
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It seems it had a shared health pool, they did 25k dmg then got pushed back for 20 minutes. By the end we had all lanes pushed up for like 15minutes before they got two lanes pushed up. Once we killed the wall it said we lost

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They were still killing garrison when it was done

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Like I said we were ahead the entire time in kills lane pushes and power.

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By quite a bit

inland halo
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Or at least dealing dmg to walls at an equal rate

broken grove
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Well I hope they fix that because it kind of ruined my whole expectations for the game mode. No other game would say they won that. Makes staying up till 2 am 4 days in a row useless.

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For sureregret spending money now

broken grove
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@inland halo appreciate your help though thanks for the answers

onyx wedge
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Last hit on the wall takes the city. No matter on how much lanes each league has reached the wall. With more troops and/or more lanes only the chances are bigger to make the last hit on the wall.

broken grove
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Yeah I got a response from support saying the same. What a waste of a good mechanic to make the entire race useless, might as well just skip all the fighting and do a coin flip. Hope they fix that.

polar vigil
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tmw when you fail to roll divine envoy / bomber and skipped over siege specialists pippega

polar vigil
junior drift
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this mode sucks, nothing to do with an afk game, my very VERY humble opinion, ty for coming to my ted talk isathumbsup

lusty terrace
summer crest
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Can someone tell how much troop strength we need to defend against a total power of 1100M?

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We already defended cities with only about half the power of the attacker, but how does this work?

junior drift
polar vigil
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if you fight with stronger teams and better powers like envoy e.g. you can deff

but best bet is like speed rushing an easy town

deffing with little units like 45-60

and then sending all to deff

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if you cant speed run rush a city then you cant do that strat

summer crest
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Thanks, this is helping me out big time

glacial sapphire
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Locking cannon appears only useful when on the wall and extreme man power advantage

polar vigil
glacial sapphire
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Big changes coming everyone, 42 day season, 50 man guilds that are all oath pacted in. Which will be less team stacking more team allying. Complete shake up.

glacial sapphire
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Willing to bet a much larger map to set more focus on PVE more so then PVP

broken grove
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Does the raging thunderstorm prevent all rallies, garrison, or mobilization, or everything?

glacial sapphire
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Can garrison up to the rain then no more

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Can fully rally

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No mobilizations during battle

junior drift
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love rerolling max amount getting useless garbage belovedzikis

leaden gazelle
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noice

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take the right and def

junior drift
leaden gazelle
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they all meh

junior drift
leaden gazelle
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take hunter

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try get shell

gloomy aurora
junior drift
gloomy aurora
junior drift
leaden gazelle
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Because they are multiple no mercy league in different expedition

gloomy aurora
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The map where Genesis and Montes left I think

leaden gazelle
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They left?

gloomy aurora
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yeah they did leave the game

leaden gazelle
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That why then πŸ’€

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Montes was doing everything

leaden helm
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war!!!

leaden helm
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Greenboys only lost last season, that's when NoMercy had like 5 leagues

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Huge shoutout to Cinnabon and Tsiferki ❀️ ΠΌΠΎΠΈ Π±Ρ€Π°Ρ‚ΡŒΡ

leaden gazelle
leaden helm
leaden gazelle
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what should i put in it ?

leaden gazelle
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and what ever

leaden helm
leaden gazelle
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Gonna post now