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I think it was around 1/5 of the garrison power last time
Thank you very much for your answer, you really helped me understand the mechanics of the game that are not written anywhere in the game instructions!
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But there is another question, please tell me, do you know what specific formula from numbers is used to calculate the decrease in endurance of units during battles?
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Is there a decrease in such indicators as "speed", for example?
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In general, in the game itself, not only in this mode, how much can the "speed" of enemy units be reduced, can it be less than 1/100%? How does this work in the game? I am very interested in fully understanding all the mechanics of the game!
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There are also many questions about such indicators as "evasion", what formula is used to calculate the hit of physical damage to a character in the ratio of the difference in "evasion" and "accuracy" between characters?
I once watched a character dodge 7-10+ times in a row in a replay here in AFK Companions, I was very pleasantly surprised by such luck!
I have no info regarding that. The lack of clear info makes it complex to determine what's going on. Plus the RNG factor
Goes the 1/5 power rule for every tower?
It normally does. Can be smaller too
Thank you very much ππ»
Seems like more whales equates to needing less power. We just took a lv 6 with less than 1/10 the power of the garrison
How is it possible that a 719m t6 only needed 70000k power troops?
And there werent even many whales
Just 2
impact of spirit power
impact of level diff
enough players teams to stall when the whale teams are "recovering"
like if the whale teams are bruteforcing 10-30 wins in a row easily and fast - and the others are able to hold out - its nice
but morelikely than not you might suffer with weak players a breakthrough from ai, pushing through you and the whale most likely cannot undo the damages done and slowly while recovering you lose.
so probably also quite a lot of luck
most likely that you took another place and mobilized the troops after taking the easier place also to take the t6
Allright good to know thank you for this very informativ text ππ»
This last round was during a storm so no troop mobilization.
"You cannot mobilize troops to towns you have no connection too (AKA cut/uncut)"
- Must be cut road?
- TO town, ΠΎΠΊ, that about take from that town to another?
your question is so confusing but you can't mobilize to cities that aren't connected. You may only rally from it
Hi yall whats the math on flooded cities
Someone said 80% so if I were to attack one would the 1:4 rule still apply thanks ^ ^
I think the 80% only applies to the walls
Thank you!!!
That's what we thought!
Not 100% on it though
Were number one in prosperity in our expedition and I just dont wanna lose it haha im like nooo today is a day to defend
I thought it was that haha.
But yeah ill confirm with someone else
Thank you
@warm python Do you know if it's just the walls or also the garrison?
Thanks for tagging them. Ive never talked to them so I didnt want to be like hey stranger you don't know me but I read everything you say like its law haha
Happy to help! Best of luck with your expeditioning you got this
@frank crow probably also knows
its the walls yah
@frank crow
The π has responded
More than just the walls would be dumb for a rng feature
Thank you! Yall
Thank you ππ»
Everyone in this discord has been hella friendly β€οΈ

What exactly are the factors to reduce enemy numbers during the siege? Breaking walls and killing them several times? Specific dmg to walls? Specific siege %?
Moral??? Maybe
Teaming up is bad?
im pretty sure all regions team up and share the tree, except yours i guess? thats weird
Feels like Lilith doesn't really want cross league teams/mergers but that's meaningless, people can do w/e they want as long as it's achievable within the bounds of the game. This seems like the expected outcome though, for one alliance to be met with another it's not about teaming up being bad but others outside of the existing alliance wanting to win as well
We will have the tree and they will have city
They got mad π
Then just fight it out π€·
we dont really know what opinion you want umm... so you teamed up and the others want to team up against you, whats wrong with that
Heres the opinion
He answered it
I know. they just really mad hahaha
good luck then, rooting for architex
We all just want to win
they did us dirty
30x leaf = (10 weeks store waittime / 15k value)
10x leaf = (4 weeks store waittime / 5k value)
i want to say sharing is caring but that is such an important whale res to kraken on - man

Aiming to claim both is not wise tbh
Technically posible. You need a strong League and incredibly good and committed commanders so as to claim both.
However, that means everybody else may as well team up to get them off you
And that makes it harder to defend.
Basically greed can and most likely will break the hegemony of a greedy single league. At least on average population leagues.
for sure - but lilith does force the issue to pvp
like they really make it hard to clean-up leagues / align together and want to discourage you from doing that
while also putting up candy at the end on the big target
Not that hard to align
smart choice will be defending the gilded city at the end
if you dont have deputies everywhere to kick - it is
because if you need to leave you lose 2d
Many people choose that to join the best
at the beginning fine but the later you do - the worse it gets
Because the best should obliterate any other league so that they have no other choice.
The social part of the event is nearly as important as the strategic one
Like, being good at building bridges is tremendously relevant
Yea for sure - you'll have way better odds pre-sharing with another league and splitting the map so that you end up with the cake of gilded city and tree already split up.
And force to kick out the 3rd league.
But kinda sadge because at higher league sizes all really active players were able to fit
and there were plenty of ressources ++ rewards were better as you know so that you just farmed with as much t5+ gem veins as possible
(what you still do - but there seem to be less to take)
If 2 teams are attacking same city its whoever gets the last hit right? Not who has more cmbr?
Last hit
Also city hp the same for all league's
Jeeeezzzz
Does queue order matter much?
I bought the wilder queue expansion so I moved all my Wilders to team 4 and have a worse mauler team in the #1 spot.
But now im worried it is effecting me. Like when I look at my loot logs I see that many people clear my first 3 teams then get cleared by my wilder team in slot 4 but if I had that team in slot 1 they'd have 0 wins. Is there any difference?
Yes, its best to place stronger teams first when defending from loot
What exactly are the factors to reduce enemy numbers during the siege? Breaking walls and killing them several times? Specific dmg to walls? Specific siege %?
you need to change the order of team and place the best one at 1 rst because every team lose is shell lost
I found a new sharing strat @warm python
every Caravan can be taken by each league and the top 60 can buy it.
Meaning if you have enough tideshells you can cycle through t8 caravans for +5 wish leafs and 600 diamonds
tho you're on a timer before the caravans are gone obviously
Already knew that. In fact each caravan cam be bought twice
How much minimum power is needed to defend a castle from another league's attack? Is there any calculation for this?
Iβd guess the same or more power than the attacking league
Itβs not the same as taking bot cities
U gotta defend for 2 whole hours
Or if u take their βwallsβ down before that
basicaly is if you have same power you can def
or at least try to def
@warm python What's up with this game mechanic?
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Does it mean that all units sent to attack, as well as all units that are placed on defense - first they all need to be sent to attack in order to spend 100 Shells so that they all start to be "without this debuff to reduce characteristics", and only then the units that should be placed on defense - send them from attack back to defense so that they do not have this debuff?
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Units immediately placed on defense, without spending 100 Shells, it turns out that they are all now with a debuff to reduce characteristics? Do you need to send them to attack - and then to defense, so that there is no debuff?
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What about mobilization to another city during defense? Even if the system does not put a debuff on those who initially defend the city, does this mean that they receive a debuff as soon as they mobilize to defend another city?
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Or do they receive this debuff only if they mobilize from defense to attack? And in this case, all units must first go on the attack to spend 200-800 Shells, they all become debuff-free and now they can be mobilized to other cities??
- Yes
- Yes
- Yes
- No
It is simple.
- Attack with all units.
- Cancel attack.
- Attack or Defend wherever needed.
That is all you have to do. After cancelling, the next attacks cost 0 shells.
- Even if that were true, given the flexibility needed, every active member should follow the steps above to provide the League with useful units.
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@warm python Got it, thank you very much for the explanation, it helped a lot! And in general, is there any full guide available about this game mode? Which answers such nuances of game mechanics?
Nope. Just ask.
I have led too many leagues and have been mobilizing since day 1.
Got quite some experience and tricks.
Okay, got it, thanks a lot again!
Why this event is so laggy? I keep restarting the game everytime during the war
@warm python Tomorrow it will rain and it will be possible only to send squads to attack. Is it possible to unite squads to Rally on 7LVL city from 2 cities at once, or it will be possible to do it only with those squads from which city the car with squads will go to attack, and squads in another city will be pulled and will not be able to attack?
Yes.
Rain doesn't limit rallying.
It only affects garrison and mobilizing.
Thank you, and one more question: I forgot how much strength the enemy units have and how much HP Wall they have at lvl 8? I can't look to calculate how much strength we need collect
1/4 of the bots power is a safe bet
So if the enemy bot total power is 100m u want to have 25m in power in your rally
Around 1.5B
I ask not about this)
U can only look at the details when the area is unlocked
Itβs the same as when u first take your first level 5 city
Hereβs your answer as well lol
Thanks @warm python
Thank you!
Guys, on rain you can rally from anywhere, right? The only problem is when you are defending cities
@warm python When it rains, we can send squads to attack at lvl 8 FROM ANY CITY SQUADS, or only squads from those cities that are nearby from lvl 8?????
yes
not sure if you mean like mobilization of troops but mobilize doesnt work in rain iirc
really works from anywhere
am not managaing much in that mode because its on a bad timer
Thank you!
On rain:
- Attacks/rallies have no restrictions
- Defences/garrison cannot be changed
- Mobilizations cannot be performed
For the gilded keep is 200m enough?
Does anyone know what 'morale' is/does?
its like stamina, once its empty, the team goes back to the base.
Im not sure if the lesser stamina the weaker it gets though or how many battles it lasts/ what are the factors that make it lower, wait for someone who knows ig
Thanks.
I believe the less stamina you have the weaker your teams are but the Battle report is a huge scam this time around
I "lost" 10 battles back to back, I replayed all of them and I won without even losing 1 hero 
is this season or phase?
Wow, that's some bad coding!
well they always say that the replay button shows wrong battles in those scenarios, for what ever reasons, but I looked and the name, pets, heroes and all was good so idk 
my team has 66% WR, it should be 91% it the replays aren't lying 
Hopefully they're not lying.
Maybe your formations are better than mine
If we isolate the enemy's city, will they still be able to send reinforcements?
No, no garrison and no mobilization
Does golden oak gives some kind of buff?
Or is it just for 2nd place ?
If first dont take it
In previous seasons it increased resource income from mines by 10%.
No problem.
not rly, thats like 60 dias a day if you get 600 per day on nodes, not worth to hoard
Ye still every dia has some worth @frank crow
yea the problem is the golden oak unlocks in the last 14d
and you need 4d to reach it so as ianne said you only have 10d of it
which is like 70-80 diamonds at that pont == 700-800 in total
more useful for early players to stack some dust tbf.
gilded city has more "gem veins" that do actually drop chests with good loot and way better ending reward which gives you a good diamondvalue*
Ye you bouth are right i guess π city is enough ππ»
Does anyone know where I can read all the info on weather effects?
the 3 weathers?
Yeah, I thought there were 4 weather conditions though. Cloudy days, rainy days, sunny days, and one more.
Is there somewhere I can read about those? I can't find the info anywhere in-game.
idk im pretty sure only 3
Sunny - no effect
Cloud - The day before storm (no effect)
Rainstorm - No mobilize, no garrison
You might be right. So cloudy days show up kind of randomly then?
yes i think there was a pattern last seasons but got removed
anyways after rainstorm, random cities will be flooded the next day (walls damaged by 80%)
thats all the effects i know
No worries, thanks. π
This gamemode sucks so bad for deputies and leaders... this time is so late
This is our season, we are against 3/4 leagues from the start
600k until 120place
We have built an easier relation on the map. I've got similar numbers to yours with 1 less team it seems
Or two. Ive got 4 total.
that just last phase change to season
Lol, over 25 mil xD show me his lineup please, how its possible π«£
Here :)
Thx π«£ i am happy that I am from s176, wont meet him in fight π
Winrate 64,50% is still interesting xD
This last several milions are a veeeery long way π
The korean is even crazier lmao
s75 hell
Omg I knew I recognized u from somewhere
Ur from the same server as my whale friend Sip
He refunded everything and moved to classic tho lol
So I take it you undertook the mantle of strongest player on ur server
You have one less, Iβm at 5 teams
S75 is really like region 4 in classic 
Yup, Sip was really nice player, she helped us a lot π
And was much stronger than everyone else
Somehow I am the strongest now π«£ but not in terms of the heroes unfortunately, but thanks to their levels
Expedition survey is live. Time to let them know how we actually feel lol
They do not care. Not at all.
Hmm, i like expedition
Well at least we get 300 free diamonds then
We only have a right to complain if we fill out the survey imo
Guys. I need help. How to win both cities or at least T10 city? We have a little bit more power than enemy blue league >150-200M. And also there is green league (250Π), but they're stupid a little bit.
You can dm me if you want
hope yall lose
π€‘
greatest
now it's better, isn't it?

Is there a way to change expedition you are in? Not league, noticed we had a bunch of people just joining chat
here is the thing
you don't - defense needs like 1/3rd of the stregth if all of them are powerd up by rallying before
I don't understand
We have attack on our T9 city and we've left there 1/2 of the attackers power
and have put all our power towards T10
did your people rally before defending and then defend?
if you do not really your troops are only 85% as strong
not sure if that is a smart move, you do not want to queue up to many waek players in a fight
you mean we need to attack first and then defend?
yea you can really up and then "stop/drop out" of the really and garrison
I've seen that you get debuff only when you haven't spent any seashells
for attack you want really strong people, probably with the "bomber, divine envoy or like idk what the other good one was called" buff and have them fight
thats what i mean by that
then we don't need to attack, we only need to spend seashells
and well if you watched a fight not all fight at once
even if you have 1100 vs 600
the 600 can easily win if they're way stronger teams
you need a really to spend seashells on that, no?
this is too. But you can spend on buffs or on mobilization
hence you only want a lot of teams from like your "whales" because they have the whale vs whale fights at the start
and then you just want to have strong teams follow up in the normal takeover
because if you have to many weak teams after each other, the enemy will break through
we have almost the same power but with difference 150-200M in our favor
had a fight with 400m in our favor
it looked like this:
had a defense with like 1/3rd of their atk looked like this:
not at all - its just bad luck coinflip for the t9, we were faster than the enemy but they got the last hit
if you're at the end in a 1v2 vs 2 allied leagues its kinda rough and there are some risks you need to take.
Yeah I had one like that 300 teams to 100 but we placed too many fodder teams in our attack and we took walls to slow. Stuck at 99/100% for an hour and a half before losing to walls at under 5%
oh that was for an Ai fight? Mine was attacking a city
oh lmao no the atk was real player wrong screen scorchton was ai
this was just lost because we focused the day before on the ai flip
siege specialist*
thats the one you need on the wallers
if your guys dont have the right spirit power card enabled dont let them attack
like there are only 3 good ones
bomber, divine envoy and siege specialist - and if possible you want more siege specialist than bombers and envoys
so there is no map advantage? Does the amount of people or power matter? We have attack like this. We said to buy Divine envoy, boombers and siege specialist.
no if you have quantity with bad quality you lose
you need high quality with good spirit powers to break through defense
because denfense is that busted
Send your weaker teams and players to something else
Only the 5 strongest players for the vanguard fight should send all their teams
How do you feel about oath keeper?
as I said we have almost the same power but we're a little bit stronger
most of our league dont have oath so thats why we prob didnt talk about it
yea and that doesnt matter at all
It's basically a coin toss for a resurrect first time your team dies
you need to send your quality fighter teams like the wilder team, the shalltear team or w.e. good teams you have
Goes for each team you have and each time they are sent out
and if you send bad teams they slow you down
it's difficult to monitor. I can only move weaker troops when the battle begins
Yes, thats the part where you need to spam league mails and explain it as good as you can
because otherwise no one will be able to follow that
put notes on like "200 teams max"
idk its called send command or something like that
like if you defend and enemy sends 600 troops you can deff them with 1/3 of it
1/3 with whales or with regular players?
its the easiest way, will do it next time aswell
turned out to be in the axis team - was asked to leave before but was kinda long with them and felt like "not right to do" just because of the better rewards
depends on their spirit power
if they take the defensive spirit powers or divine envoy aswell
even low teams can defend it
I am in my original league, but us and the one we are teamed with are basically set to win since there is only one other strong league. We are choking them out of the final zone right now. 2v1 is hard
thats the hard part that you cannot monitor, where you need to trust the league and put good faith decisions in and make the call to put f.e. "250 teams in deff"
and just know because you explained 10 times and another time today - they'll take the defensive power if they deff
totally fair to do so
for me i just found it fun to be on the other side for once and kinda see how it plays out
if i can flip some nice win i'll post it - but it semms like defense is way to strong in this mode ^^
Also difficult when you have fatugued teammate who don't even feel like rallying each day
yea, monitoring and kicking is what we did
enough people apply to make up for fatigued people who just sit on free resources
Idk man, it looks like we have only whales with 5+ squads, so weaker players shouldn't have more chances to be on battlefield
well you dont understand it
the lightbearer squad from the whales
is weaker than the wilder squad from a non whale
so its a waste of space
a weakness in your offense
it can be weaker only with lower morality
you can have your vanguards send out their full squads, they can have their lb team in
but your other folks should send their 2 strongest teams and its good
if you only have people with 5 teams, then let them send their 3 strongest teams (aBrutus, aSolise and Dims)
so we can attack with like 1/3 of the enemy power with strongest teams?
tell me
left
yes
so you cannot duplicate that team
but you can have another person have that team
and if you only have players attack with 2 or 3 good teams
and leave the bad teams to defend
then you have better chances than sending everyone
because the wall will stall you out
losing teams will stall you out
if you understand that and apply it to what i said, everything should make sense now with sending a bit less teams but STRONGER higher QUALITY teams
what about the amount of the daily attacks?
if you only have one target and dont want your folks to split then only attack one target
if you have enough folks leftover and they understand their task of quality vs quantity
and send their quantity troops somewhere else and their quality troops on the main target
then you can do multiple if you do not need to defend
if you need to defend, attack or even multi-defend and attack
because its like a good checkpoint for attack the t9 then you defend it
I think that we have a lot of weak players who don't need to be on defence
then send them to free stuff and put a command "no more than 50, no strong teams" or something like that
will it be a bad idea if I will move troops in the beggining of the battle? like strongest to the needed locations and weakest for the defence. Or 15-30 minutes are crucial for battles?
idk usally you move when its necessary - depending on how long it takes
and depending on whether you need troops to fill up
like if you have stronger teams, you do not need to fill up the gap as quickly and can get sometimes a few nice recovers aswell
if you notice that you lose teams faster and are slowly getting out of teams and worried that the battle still keeps on for a while - yes you mobilize
but no usally you dont mobilize at the start of the battle
like only if your league manages to f up in defense and you need to drag folks out to defend, then I guess you have a reason to do so
is it possible to get both last 2 cities against 2 leagues?
on my f2p - gatekept tree 
not sure which two last "cities" you're refering too
there is city and oak
Yeah we're hardstuck unable to get to that tree π
its insane, tho you guys are defending two ways - so thats atleast kinda nice - if you/we win the flip on pearl bay we should be able to send a offense on tree and keep some defenses garrisoned in the other t9s
True, either way it's been an interesting round of expedition. Poor Scorchton is just stuck in the middle of all this haha
Yea, lucky that we were able to join up with ya folks-
Idk. would like to see use in the oath - but kinda feels hard with the matchmaker being as random as it is.
I agree with the oath comment - Noctua showed me the spirit power option that comes up if you are an oath keeper and it seems like it could be really useful but I'm hesitant about the oath when alliances are always shifting and I feel like I'm almost guaranteed to have to hop leagues to join up with the rest of the alliance right at the beginning anyways
if the city will be cut from others, will they be able to mobilize army into that city without roads?
no only city connected
but they still can put their army into that city before battle stage?
nope can't mobilze trough ennemy territory
you can launch attack
I mean put squads before battle
garrison
nah you can't cross enemy territory
for exemple
in this cituation
green can send garrison from zone 1 to 2
but team in zone 2 can move freely in zone 2
and same for zone 1
i hope @onyx gust it help you
so, they can sand armies from zone 1 to zone 2 and vice versa?
yup
because they are cut
but why, they don't have roads that connect cities?
Looks the gate is Taken by Bleu
So they can't cross ennemis territory
and can't go to another zone, right?
If the team is in zone 1 he can't go to 2 or 3 because the path to the city in zone 2/3 are cut
thank you for the explanation
Np
Interesting
wtf is this?
From test server
Expedition is permanent...
Lots of new stuff
5 days before season is over, new season enrollment opens.
are there going to be only 4 servers always?
It's region based. So whatever region you have, those are your partners/opponents
we have region of 13 servers, but only 4 in our expedition
SG cards as rewards? Yes please
But expedition isn't gonna be like month on month off?
They split the region up. Your closest neighboring servers within the region are with you
No, it is back to back, with 0 days in between.
As you can see in the pictures I sent, the enrolment is already open 5 days before current season ends.
Then, by the day season ends, the next one starts. I guess there will be one day in between. But that is the maximum gap it could have they way they've implemented it.
Anyone else claim the skin for this event and now it just disappeared?
The hodge one
Eh idk how I feel about that
Im just impatient it showed up nvm... it's a fire skin imo
Sharing is caring 
Exactly
That sounds exhausting for league leaders
Yep...they call it "AFK" yet implement a mode that requires live interaction for 2 hours a day.
expedition must be once in 3 months and with rich rewards. It's so stupid to play it every month.
There is rain on the last attack of expedition or is it different from last expedition?
Itβs random after the first time the loop the season
im starting to not like this mode at all, i kinda wanted it to be periodic like the guild events and VoT/AE
Imagine how taxing it is for leaders
how do i turn on the auto join for expeditions
big blue "attack" then bottom right
thank you sir

Jeeeez
I'm so confused
I think none of the other leagues in our expedition are active?
So we've got the oak and the castle and there's essentially no battles anywhere
Is this just gonna go on for the rest of the season? Hitting all the other lil forts for the diamonds? π©
You should be grateful for having free diamonds.
In other regions, leaders have to wake up at 6AM to mobilize under 2 hours of stress
So basically, you have A LOT OF FREE resources with 0 effort.
Aye absolutely! Just hard to know what to do for the next week π
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Does anyone know what is the wait time between leaving a league and being able to join another one? Just left a league and can't join a new one until the "cooldown" is over, but it doesnt say how much it is
Also when I try to join a league this message appears which is obviously not true
And when I try to accept an invitation to a league this appears
But it doesn't give me the time I will be able to join or anything
2hrs
New season out on test.
One night event finishes....the next morning it begins
It has 200 floors total.
There are multiple of these portals around the map....unsure yet if each of them has a different set of floors/rewards or of it is the same thing
Solid rewards?
Does the map layout changed for next season?
Considering they are free yeah.
It's a mess, 2 minutes wait per battle ...
The Devs may not seem to understand the concept AFK
@candid sleet idk where this is nor what this do but thats the only answer i saw
It seems to be 50 diamonds every 3 stages.
2 SGs or wish leaves every 20 stages.
So 3k diamonds, 10 SGs and 10 wish leaves
Is that the SG rewards they were talking about? 
Also, max stamina is 6, so you have to play every 10 hours max not to waste it
Thatβs for the whole season or you can do more than one?
Unclear on description, but I guess once
10SG per month + 10WL per month is better than nothing I guess
The approximate amount of total energy needed to finish the 200 stages is 770+
5 stages with 1 battle
10 stages with 2 battles
33 stages with 3 battles
10 boss stages with 1 battle
142 stages with 4 battles
Every 10 hours = 6 energy = 6 battles
You use one team per battle.
So technically, it should be quite easy to get all the battles in time if there is only 200 floors and not repeating floors each time you reach one of those portals.
According to their description, each new portal increases how deep you can delve into that dungeon. Starting at floor 60 tops as the event begins and unlocking floor 200 in the center ring.
20th stages seem to be timed and also player limited.
What a dumb choice from Lilith. Making friends and comrades to fight and feel bad for achieve or not achieve rank 50/160
It also seems that subsequent stages so not open till 50 members beat the boss?
maybe only 50 people need to defeat it for next stages to unlock
Event is over
Your meme game is better than your maths π
I figured I had to do that one quick, but gz - not sure how you reached the 13k but half of s1 being your alts I'd think you found some sloppy things that lilith is hiding from us, like the upper limit for pulls.
13k kills is wild
So, in the new mode every 20th floor is a boss with either 2 SGs or 2 Wish Leaves.
If the boss is not killed withing a timeframe, you won't receive those rewards, instead receive some shells and crap.
So, the whole league must be really involved in order to make it happens. And the involvement means, each battle has a 2 minutes timer till you can perform the next action, so in order to advance you have to spend some actual time in front of the screen.
Really weird mechanics.
Which phase is this active in? And what do you mean by entire league? Once you reach the location the entire league works as a team to defeat the floors? I was under the impression it was a single player activity.
The portals start literally as you start on day one.
- You have 6 stamina per team
- max Stamina is 6
- 1 stamina regens every 100 minutes (so 10 hours = 6 sta)
It has total 200 floors.
it contains
5 stages with 1 battle
10 stages with 2 battles
33 stages with 3 battles
10 boss stages with 1 battle
142 stages with 4 battles
- Each battle means 1 stamina point to spend
Every 20th stage is a boss, which contains extra rewards (2 SG or 2 Wish Leave)
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It seems, based on 1st boss achieved so far, that if 50 league members do not beat it, you don't get access to those extra rewards.
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You cannot get past the boss stage until 50 league members defeat it.
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The boss also has a timer. If the 50 members do not beat it before time is over, then you lose the extra rewards but can continue to the next stage
That should cover it all.
I posted a lot of pictures above that show most of these mechanics.
From what you were saying before you were thinking only 50 people can beat the boss.
Is this the case or is it a minimum of 50 but others can defeat it within the time frame?
Now that 1st boss timer is over we know that not reaching 50 kills = No extra rewards
Since the wording is not clear and there are not that many people on test server we don't know yet if rewards are only for 50 or everyone
Thank you sir
We shall see then
Thoughts on golden frontier purchase value? An extra formation or two seems a nice investment, does it make a difference in final rewards if I'm already playing actively?
So, it seems that only 50 people can claim the rewards.
Yikes, okay thanks
@polar vigil hi, join our league 11 in the expedition
I fear I should've bought the diamond oath π©

It would be nice if Lilith explained to players the conditions for progressing past Floor 20, and the language, Players defeated 18/50 sounds like the boss defeated 18 players, which is further emphasized by the icon of the red kneeling player count, suggesting so far the boss has brought 18 players to their knees.
Hard to call it "boss" even π
Can someone tell me how to use the cannon? I understand using the cards. But what is the βcall for helpβ, and how do you aim the cannon
Idk what call for help is, assume itβs like a request reinforcements thing, but you can only aim the cannon with the βlock cannonβ card that you get ~every 10 mins iirc
Okay thanks. But how do you actually aim the cannon? Drag it with your finger or point and click?
Canβt remember exactly but feel like itβs drag the card to the lane you want to lock it to
Hi, is there a certain day once expedition begins that we can leave our current league and join another?
When elections are over. So 5th day.
Thatβd make sense, thanks a bunch! βΊοΈ
hey guys i have a question to you people who already played this event in companions
since this is the first time i play this event in classic i have a question regarding this situation:
do we need to garrison our team to prepare for the enemies attacking rally or does our attacking rally attacks the enenies attacking rally?
uu can go all in defend or just go all attack or split up depend on position
ok so the rally caravans just go by each other and simply attack the cities
and we still have to defend our city by garrison teams
You can mobilize during battle time, and so they can
In that situation you ideally wanna brute force the attack and stall the defence as much as possible
When you battle is won, then movilize all thag brite force back as defence.
At thay point they are over since they attack is cuf off and they wont be able to mobilize to it anymore
Also, defending teams should qst attack, then cancel rally and the defence. This will remove the "non-spending shells" debuff
okok, its hard to give this information to the team members since my guild are only 40/130 members haha
i think the deputies and leader should get a lot more relevance like moving teams from cities to cities and moving teams from rally to another rally etc
Well, Mobilizing is 90% of the event
Not mobilizing makes of your league just warm bodies.
Was it already known that if members of a guild sign up as individual, they may end up in different expedition regions?
Haven't seen it spoken about here so probably not too widely, it's a by-product of the expanding servers/regions for expedition pools that Lilith are doing without communicating
Thanks. So the cannon aims itself automatically and is completely random? The only control you have then is to play cards and be able to aim the cannon only with the lock cannon card?
yes
Cannon rng can be pretty bad too
any shadow realm enjoyers?
Nope. Useless mode with s tedious system.
They removed veins to add a method to obtain those same rewards if you are lucky enough to be part of an active League and also be top 50/160.
How does this event even work?
My league attacked the Dusk Keep at the same time as the opposing league. Even though we had significantly more power than them and I had a 100% win rate with others in my league also having similar or near perfect win rates we still lost the keep to the opposing league.
Unless they're not hitting the walls you have no way of guaranteeing a win unfortunately, shared wall hp and last hit gets it, pretty sucky
Has anyone noticed that the walls seem to be destroyed faster than previous seasons?
Hello guys!
I am asking you for advice. My guild and I are playing on the main server in Golden Frontiers. And we have three questions:
- What is team morale? How do players lose or gain it?
- How do battles happen in this mode? Why do I have packs of better heroes, but I only have 40 battles and 40 wins. While my guildmate has weaker packs, and he has more than 100 battles and wins...
- What happens when two guilds attack the same city? Why was our guild leading in capturing the city at first, but in the end it was not us who captured the city, but another league?...
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Sorry, I use a translator and it was difficult for me to find the correct names for game terms in English to explain this correctly
Have you tried asking leaders if they have any inactives they would like to kick for an active player?
not yet
Hi. How do the end rewards work?
Both trees need to be occupied by the time the timer expires to get all the rewards for Crown's Reckoning?
there are rewards for occupying the tree and the city, if you occupy both at end you get both rewards, if only one, then you get the corresponding set of rewards, if none, well, none
I see, so they need to be occupied by the end of the event. Thanks!
Also, just to clarify, if your league gets both trees, but you are below the top 60 in contributions, what would you get?
I don't think the top 60 rank thing is valid for the final phase rewards (city and tree rewards).
Wonder if we manage to get tree this time
you get the listed rewards, there is no common/elite distinction for the final phase
Thanks for confirming!
@empty scarab
No worries. π
will there be penalty if the leader kicks you?
Okee
they'll be sanctionized and held accountable in front of the UGATO (United Global AFK Treaty Organization)
When it comes to garrison, players need to make their teams join a rally first -> cancel it -> join the garrison in order to avoid the penalty correct?
yes
Got it. So even if the objective is to defend, one rally minimum is needed otherwise you're screwed
that's right, you need at least one declaration to pay the tide shell fee to avoid debuff
Gotcha thank you so much man
It's not bad
They need to remove it completely lol
Whoever came up with the idea needs to be questioned π
Truee
nnah just little whale look biger

Honestly, i really like expedition π
hey guys i have a question to the tacticians around here, what would you do in this scenario
we are the green league (by far the strongest in terms of activity and power, brown hates us and only focus on attacking us while purple is doing their thing. Today we can occupy the tree safely and the gilded city against purple, should we full focus on attack and dont defend against brown (their leader is always mobilizing the whole league during command phase), or should we defend the lv9 cities and only take the gilded city and tomorrow the tree?
If uβre the strongest just do what u want π€·π»ββοΈ, take tree first then city based on where uβre positioned
the problem is on how dumb the defending is when 2 teams attack you, then the teams are split into half and you cannot send reinforcement
its so stacked up 
Asking here too to be sure;
If two leagues attack the same city, and they get to the wall, itβs basically a coinflip on who hits it last, which gets it.
But, if league 1 attacks the wall and tears it down to 0% before league 2 reaches the wall, is it still a coinflip, or is league 1 assured to get the city then?
L1 100% gets the city bc L2 still has not reached the wall
Good to know, I never watch battles they are too early
Thank you! Thatβs what I was hoping for =)
This game is broken
The oath is stupid we have peeps level 240 with 1 formation throughout the entire expedition and we cannot kick cause it's not passed 3 days. Then on top of it you have guilds flooding leagues with bot accounts.
The broken frontier is what it should be called
Whale frontier, no one can compete with 8 teams guys
Idiotic event to delete
That's why ppl don't care about it and do t play it, totally waste of time
Iβve never felt burnout in a game before until I became a deputy in expedition π
πΈ
We all share the same feeling pal
I lead a 4 league alliance with 640 people...
Imagine that haha
I know we fight with two of them π€£π€£
Are you in Green boys?
Yep π
It's a constant fight , at least this time it's fun but still overall his event is trash whales vs f2p
How we have any chance having 3 teams vs 8
no its a coinflip
π what are you doing Iperx
coinflipping
It's a coin flip when both leagues touch the Wall. However, it's not a coin flip if one league hasn't touched the Wall while the other has already reduced it to 0%.
Trust me π , I experienced this. Unless they change the mechanics hmmm π§
problem is, touching wall with locked cannon strats is piss easy
In classic weβre having our very first golden frontier. The explanations in game dismally bad π
what lvl is expidition/frontier for you guys also 240-360?
not sure how pvp is in classic but if your arena/ts stuff is similar you must be used to being around lvl 360-410 no - so having to fight early at around lvl 240 must be a weird one xd
i am the only active deputy, others are inactive and leader is inactive i feel you bro this is hell i wish it will end soon but we are top league and competing for gilded city & tree todayπ©
all of mine are currently at 360 and afaik that's the highest they can go =)
tomorrow we're duking it out for the city
Yeah, 360 is max
hey i have a questions
do we get the reward today or do we have to defend it for 8days?
rewards in 9 days
How useful the Spirit Power Siege Specialist?
It will be fun the last week of it π
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The Green League on the South has only those territories with all of their troops inside.
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The purple green on the right has only 2 territories inside with 80% their power and a few random unconnected on middle and phase 1.
Green on the left and back trailing purple is us NM
Below green on South, Mercy and Zero Mercy
The blue, also on the screen is AllMercy.
Call that fun is a bad joke lol
Your deputies and leaders will sweat blood on anxiety and pressure.
That will be relieved once sent back to spawn though
This whole event is trash, because they add pay to win e tra squads. So really no one care about it
Who pay they win
Not even close to reality
Biggest Pay To Win players in our Region are in fact in GreenBoys and T1, which are allieds, and who are being obliterated.
So, no. There is P2W factors, but the course of the event is still based on skills such as strategy, leadership, social management, teamwork, cooperation and the list goes on.
No it's just NM played there cards right and we didn't
But 2vs1 we held out for a long time
And no Montes we are not sweating or anything just enjoying
We knew we where going to lose a bunch since it is 2vs1
Don't matter how strong a league it it is impossible to fight against 2 strong leagues at once
We knew how it was going to be as soon as we where in the middle of 2 leagues
To be fair, I offered Demonic a peaceful treaty before elections
With the intention of providing the really active players the access to the top-end rewards
Now that we are speaking here. Is it possible for you as a deputy to freely kick those willing to leave?
I never keep hostages when anyone asks me about leaving due to being placed not with the party of their choice
Looking forward for your answer @light kiln
Where not holding anyone
DMed
Please tell me how the siege in the golden frontier goes when the city occupied by my league is attacked by two others leagues at once? Do their troops merge into one? Or do our troops split into two parts? Or do two different battles take place simultaneously and can they be commanded separately?
Your teams are split between the attackers.
madness
f2p looting is different
Quick questionβ¦ during the rain, you canβt mobilize your troops to a city, but does the mobilize cars still work then? Or is that also disabled?
You can't garrison your teams before the rally phase, and you can't mobilize during the rally phase.
Cards does not work either
You can man the cannon, but you can't play the mobilize card.
Beat me to it, Ross. π
Anyone that managed to kill Shemira from floor 175?
I just cleared her at 200
Managed, she have no power π€£
Kinda a late reply... i managed to kill her first yesterday as a f2p
Really with what team at 200 only got her to 77%?
i cleared 175 on my f2p with my weakest comp welp it used marci which kinda explains why it worked probably
As the first player?
like 10th-ish
just use a dps mage like in other events marci/trishea + utility
After each kill Shemira is weaker
So I was only interested in a comp that could beat Shemira without being weaken (luckily I've tested some comps myself and I was able to beat her)
that comp manged to beat 175 as 11th or 12th
its like a5 marci, a4 mira, a5 sonja, mythic talene and a2 belinda
(now a5 mira, a3 belinda - but at that time a4 and a2)
talene/sonja healing - belinda dps/crit increase and semi dps herself and mira/marci dps
so on a whale it should be even easier to beat lol
I wonder if they are tanky enough for first kill
I tried to use Talene but she was insta killed
(My Talene is Ascended)
if not you can just change into a brutus or thoran
or as whale into arthur
Wilders with twins worked on 175 trisha lyca solise nev twins
Need ideas on 200
are you missing dmg or tankyness?
How much enemy have strength at 175 I want to know ?
I used this to beat floor 200. Shadow realms
Did that not work on 200 for you as well?
It worked for me first try. And Iβm over here spamming the dim comp battles -.-
I did try wilders but not with the wilder buff arena -.-
Not too sure what was going on in my head at the time π€
Nice power spike in power of enemy after flor 170 π
This is what I used. Twins could link Lyca and Trishea (hopefully), Mortas will buff Lyca first, then Trishea, ASolise is there for sustain. If your team dies (or any of your units) you could replace Mortas with Nevi (you will lose some DPS but hopefully it will be enough for you)
Nice, 18k shels for fully recovery of flames
mortas blocks the healing from ice shemira, also makes sense - but aSolise should be on 2nd spot because she has a higher defense stat + her passive
Her passive?
no iceshemira does this draining beam connecting to #2 spot
while doing that ice shemira heals
and mortas takes all healing an enemy receives
Slowly progressing
Someone take lvl 200 Boss?
^ that with wilder buff (paid team)
or dimensionals with dimensional buff (paid team)
those are the two comps that work for first clear
im here alone lmao
Hi. How long after the event ends do the Tree and Gilded city rewards get sent out?
Should be at the same reset the event ends
Iirc
I see, thanks!
Is it really true that only the top 60 in the league holding city or tree get the frames? =( I thought it was everyone in the league
First time it's real fun in last week
Skin? π
Not seen that in the list of rewards for us
But itβs our first time getting the event on classic, so might be because of that
We donβt have that screen π€
Nothing about prizes here
But thatβs probably just a version difference then
It's show up on last week when city & tree are taken
Weβre in the final few days - not seen anything
Hmmm π€
Expedition in classic is different
Ohh
It's like 95% the same and then they have random ui and small differences
Since it's a little newer there
Does anyone know the exact values of how many points each cities give in expedition? Thanks
T1-T4 are 1 point per
T5 are 10
T8 40
Others somewhere between
Talking from the top of my head
Thanks, helps a lot with planning.
If two leagues attack the same city, how is the winner determined?
I'm on floor 200 and closest i've gotten is 10.2% with celestwing, or 12% with deer, I tried putting better gear on my heroes and now my lyca and trish struggle to survive without changing anything else (have tried putting original gear on and nothing changed) any ideas?
Guys, can you tell us more about the following case? If 2 different leagues attack the same city. That's how the capture happens. I used to be told that whose league strikes the last blow against the wall is the league that takes the city. And how does this happen? In terms of attacking from two leagues, is there a general battle going on, or does everyone have an individual picture of the battle against the defenders? And at the same time, is the number of hp on the wall total or individual? I just want to get into it in more detail.π
Without paying for buff, there is no chance to beat it
i have all teams
I drop her to 76%
How about Mortas instead of Nevanthi
And use the Owl or the Green Ball instead of the Deer
I've tried each of those pets and if I use mortas instead of nevanthi my trish and lyca get 1 shot, with any of the pets
that is crazy, can u show a pic of today? wanna see what happened 
This was what I used (iperx's suggestion) and it took me a few attempts but it beat floor 200. Sometimes it did 20%, sometimes 9%, then finally victory. Was a bit wishy-washy with the percentage
Ascended twins π€£π€£
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tough one for u guys, u rly need to get the gate to get reinforcements, good luck last few days 
floor 200?
Yeah
try twins instead of mishka and put nevathi in the middle, they get mythic tier if u bought teams try wilders otherwise i think its unbeatable for u until someone weakens her
Mine twins are e , they insta die
u didnt buy teams right? then i dont think its beatable maybe try laios instead of mishka, cos she doesnt rly do anything for u
on f2p its beatable after 7-8 players have beaten it before 
Fantastic way to say f. To f2p players
i mean thats kinda wrong you could get 199 easily sleeper mode without paying btw.
199 was easy but this is just unbeatable in time
She doesn't have DMG,just always out if time
yea so why'd you be frustrated about not getting 2 sg cards
200 is also unbeatable for me dw
we aint even got a t9
or w.e. trash there is
like i get its bs but like its less bs than in most other events
What a point making event with can't be finished without paying?
99% of other events like celestial isles, magicians hat are a big f u to f2p
Another greed move to lower player base with is lower and lower
what point even making celestial isles if you cant finish it
the whole game is a p2w gaccha
i completly agree on that
but golden frontier is the least p2w event imo
Yeah sure every one can compete vs players with 8 teams she f2p have 3
At max
π
my f2p has a bigger contribution than most 6 player teams folks have
idk if you want to compare yourself to krakens that spent over 5k$ on a gacchagame and be frustrated about not being able to do the same thing, then you're playing the wrong type of game just saying
the whole game spam advertises p2w stuff in your face all the time, its the whole gimmick of gaccha lol
completely fair - but tell me has it been different in the bgeinning?
It stop being fun after they are greedy release Arthur ,a lot of players say fuck it and just stop play
agreeable the way t hey released him in pair of 15 shards wasnt fair lmao - still hated that
but imo the game is itself and the fun is the long grind itself
if you want to reach a goal set it yourself and dont be trapped endlessly
T10 city 100 points
T6 15 points
thanks a lot
How can you guys even determine in advance whether it makes sense to attack the city or not? Let's say there's a total of 400 million power in the city, and I have 120 million in the league. Will I be able to capture the T5?
u need like one quarter of the actual power of the city to take it if ur talking about bots and u need to outnumber real enemies by at least 1.5x to take their city
nice gz, good luck last days holding it 
thx bro β₯
Done it β€οΈ
T9 60 points
always appreciate your help
Full list in one message:
- T1-T4 = 1
- T5 = 10
- T6 = 15
- T7 = 20
- T8 = 40
- T9 = 60
- T10 = 100
Does anyone know where to find a detailed guide to the Golden Frontier mode?
So that there is information on what level of combat power is needed to capture a city (before and after the flood) relative to its defense. How to send troops to attack a city, is it possible to send AFK people to attack who do not log into the game, but their troops are in the garrison of the nearest city? And other questions.
All Info above
You need to find those out by searching through here. Searching by keywords should find want you want
NoMERCY's alliance coping all commendation rewards. It was an interesting season.
Basically the inner ring was entered by its 3 doors by NM and its enemy alliance, T1 and GB. That gave an initial stronger inner ring presence to enemy alliance.
As days went by, the long term plan let all branches kick in and accurately remove back to spawn both, T1 and GB, granting all our Leagues access to commendation rewards.
From the plan and strategy standpoint it was a very fun season.
4 league management imperssif
It was a challenge. Not only managing to obtain tree and city for 1st and 2nd, but also manage to make 3rd and 4th into top 3 and 4 when having 1/2 and 1/3 the power of the other enemy alliance leagues βοΈ π₯
Ainβt she pretty?
Yall are 1000% having multiple leagues team against you next season 
Sure does look nice though!
We will fight back in next season π
This is the log from the private discord channel of NM about strategy and planning.
Casual 550 pages document just for the last season.
Which is the reason why we win each time.
Coordination, cooperation, planning and a very active player base willing to be part of the project.
GB and T1 had the biggest whales. However, we proved wrong your statement about how
Whaling > Everything
The Korean whale with T3 heroes and double ascended and starred Fabled Beast bite the dust
Uhh no Montes it was about the same amount of power quit lieing you had whales also
We had more power because of more active overall players, bit the top 2 power whales were on fact
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- Koren Whale (T1)
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- Demonic (GB)
Those are just facts.
Regarding power:
NM 1800M
GB 1650M
T1 1500
M 1400
I basically never lie, there is no need to.
Ya we had 1 whale in GB we most just bought formations but they where not whales
And that was exactly my statement. "You had the biggest whales"
Had to learn the hard way this season that power alone doesn't matter.
Controlling more puppet leagues in a efficient way does.
Our smaller leagues were quite decent tbh
If you can force the enemy into bad advantage 50/50 flips or split their city defenses its just much better and nag at them from behind all the time to split their forces.
Wears everyone out.
Our 3rd branch was over 1.1B power
Our enemy had multiple leagues too. Just played them poorly though
Because you know their steps will be most likely straight forward and they have way less actions and way less total power than you have.
Yea we had 3 leagues, an enemy alliance had 7 leagues.
We manged our 3rd league very poorly.
Eventho we were at first evenly matched in power - we had no chance.
3 powerful and coordinated ones should be good enough to garrison deeper and deeper
We won some intresting flips which lead to the enemies hopping between their league which at first made us mad.
But tbf. we got played like a fiddle and joined with them now to prepare together for regionals.
Kinda intresting but damn it wears ya out as leader if everyone "knows better" if you're loosing because you're getting nagged at from everywhere.
we were completly split in terms of map
and our 3rd league had barely 200-300M power
they put both 1.2B teams between us and seperated our ally
So, it was just a matter of time and of losing cities at some point just to end up getting the whole center and removing competition back to spawn point
we should've league hopped aswell but people wanted oath and were blinded by the small gain
exactly
Basically top 2 league on power ended up with 4 points on proliferation ranking
cant defend everything, espacially not with rain and floods
Which is astoundingly rough
ggs to you, you're deep into expedition and probably at the peak of expedition planing etc.
for me i learned i need to be a player or i will become mentally ill from doing all the do deeds of that planing - but everyone can and should enjoy different parts of the game ^^
Yes. Leading is so taxing.
I know you're busy stoking your ego but don't confuse sheer numbers with some sort of brilliant tactical strategy. Numbers. Thats it. Thats the strategy.
Well, if you want to fool yourself with that narrative, go for it π
Welp you gotta get those numbers somewhere as frustrating as it is.
And whether thats luck or skill that other people got the numbers, made me realize for myself there are others that do it better than me.
Gotta give that credit.
Im not discounting the ability to bring a large group of people together. Success and a little name recognition always helps. But again thats just numbers. We didnt have 'whales' unless you count the couple dozen people spending $7usd on a couple extra groups. NoMercy and all their allies purchased groups as well. You literally had four pretty full leagues. You launched 4,5,6+ attacks every day. That just wasnt defensible. The only narrative being spewed is the one where they are geniuses for amassing a horde and winning coin flips at every turn.
Well, you clearly do not understand the mode at all if your message above is sincere and not just yourself doing mental gymnastics
I am not even gonna point out that your alliance was also composed by 4 leagues.
However:
- You were not enticing enough so as to fill them. Ooopsie.
- You were (as you mentioned above) geniuses enough so as to kick out every member out of one of your leagues, then close the applications and finally tossing the lead to a 7-day-AFK player.
I recognised myself the mistakes we committed during the league. And, it is great to face with honesty, both failure and success.
It feel kind of tiring trying to read your league's whines based on your inability to manage the leagues you had, yet trying to point out the enemy (us) succeeding on that very same matter.
Top notch attempt of twist...only suitable for naΓ―ve members I guess.
I literally have no idea what you're talking about. We (greenboys) were one league from thw get go. We had obligations to some other guilds and friends. They mostly joined up with T1. We did our best to honor those obligations but T1 was on the opposite side of the map from GB. We collaborated for all of 10 days. We made mistakes. You took advantage. You won the big prize but had numbers on your side the entire duration. Dont pretend like it didnt sway the greater battle.
And no, no naivety on my part. Just calling out some delusional bs where I see it. We did similar for three seasons hut ran up against a 2000+ group wall by the end of this season.
Anyways. Hope to see you in a day or two. gg and good luck
2000? Not even good at Maths?
160 x 4 = 640
However, ever our 4th league had 80 INACTIVE members. And, that league ranked 4th overall in the classification. I am so sorry for the delusion.
640 players genius. x3-5 groups each. 2000 is the low estimate
Why do you keep trying to justify your failure?
It is ok to lose. Equally as good as winning. There is no shame at all.
I recognize your efforts and endeavour. However, trying to justify the failure with random bs just makes you look pretty bad /shrug
Im not trying to justify anything. Just making sure 'the narrative ' includes the total imbalance that this season was
That is right. We had more power. But, you had also 4 leagues.
We did not tho
So, the only difference, as I mentioned above, is that you were unable to manage them properly.
Thats just nonsense
It
IS
NOT
Oh he mad
T1 and GB were two leagues. Not 4 I dont know where you are getting that from
T1, GB, Fruit and ApexBlades
those were lead by YOU
The conversation is getting boring though. I can get you do either do not understand what happened or you are just trolling.
Both cases, the conversation is not really interesting at all. Night.
They were against you but not lead by us. They were obviously very decimated by the time everyone moved to nm,gb,t1 . I dont think they even took themselves seriously lol
Correction.. nmΓ4 π
Again, good day and good luck next season
Expeditions is becoming more and more of an xing/linked-in type of networking event lmao
Gonna be handing out expedition resumes soon
take ss of ur latest seasons with wr and teams and then file a formal application to be able to join top leagues 
Every server that got abex season 3 is a single region now
Thatβs how bad the population is
That or how much scummy fomo skin bs Lilith is trying to pull now to get more people whaling for expedition stats
Itβs almost like selling them for $500 a pop didnβt work or something who knows
Let me network my way to everyone dm
Ahahaha
I know I'm the 100000000000000th person to say this, but GF is really ruining the whole experience
It encourages toxic behaviours and ends up with people separated basically according to their $ input in the game
And because of that stratification it's put big rifts between my server guild. Which has just made everything feel acrimonious and silly
Yeah it's whale vs whale
Because they pay
And making face other whale make the whale pay more
Just pure toxic
the mode is way too exhausting as well, every month a season of this bs is just too much
yeah lead gonna die 1 by 1
100% about the networking. weβve got a crew of us that have been playing in the same league since the beta season, which has allowed more cross server relationships to be built.
They are finally merging some players from around your server (70s and 80s) this season though so maybe that crew will remain separate throughout the various leagues this season. Itβs going to be interesting
Why the hell we have 150+ account leagueless.?? What the hell Lilith ...
took me 2 minute just to swipe down all leagueless player ... all alliance 160/160
Prolly players that enrolled and havent logged in for their assigned team
Our leagueless is at 0
They can not assign their team if there is no slot to join ...
Yea something got messed up.
Just Lilith making each season worse.
It has been a constant. Every season has been literally worst than the previous one, implementing changes that nobody asked for, which make the overall game experience worse and which imply less rewards.
As if they liked to sabotage their own game.
Our lobby started initially with 12x118 members
Those were the players who enrolled previously.
In 8 hours, the 12 leagues were at 160/160, which means 12x42 new players who didn't previously enrolled just joined the event.
That is above 500 players in less than 10 hours.
Imagine how big the leagueless player pool will be by the end of the event. Rendering as a result many players willing to participate but unable to do so
overflowing leagues makes no sense, people getting shafted right off the bat
The patch said "make ita harder to make alliances"
May need a reword to: "Make it harder to participate since we are morons who placed 5k people in a lobby with 1920 slots"
Thats honestly the wrong direction to take it, trying to put everyone with randoms. Should do mmr like every other game and put people with their appropiately skilled opponents. Rank top 4 prosperity every season match them against the same likeness of another expo the following season
A legends league expo
legends league would go crazy
The competitives fight competitives and the casuals fight casuals, everyones happy
Our teams in our expo unfilled 130/160. Something odd happened
So guys may I ask. Why is it acceptable for people to run several leagues as leader with alt accounts to cheat in golden frontier?
Our top 2 leagues are both lead by the same dude with the same name
Who then uses the second league to 2vs1 the third
Why is this allowed?
We have 4 leagues targeting us specifically for no benefit to themselves. I wonder why?
Support Doesent seem to give af. But none of us will spend a penny again on the event if this is how itβs run
If this is acceptable then whatβs to stop me registering for golden frontier with 300 bots ? At what point does it become cheating?
@frank crow was this last season?
Oh wtf
Haha love your name. My pfp is Rimuru with red hair xD
Hehe I love my Lumi β€οΈ β€οΈ
This is what golden frontier has become, controlling numbers.
Plenty people are unhappy with it. Idk whether Lilith would stop someone having 300 multi-accs.
But those who control the numbers control the frontier. Best you could do is being annoying and trying to control the outer circles as good as you can while collecting cities for top 4 - and t he best way to do that is mostly by sucking it up and cooping with them.
The only other thing you can do is trying to get enough leagues that are unhappy with it to hop into non controlled leagues and weaken their puppet leagues that way. And trying to throw them over. Tho I haven't seen anyone being successful with that. Since you'd do the same as them - controlling even more numbers or bringing them together.
we lost to them last season, it made me quit the mode basically and just join wherever tf i want cos i cba playing against that, if they wanna make the game a part time job let them do it and just join into one of their leagues and be a mercenary
Nezer again 
Lilith are coping to get outfit sales out of people buying frontier packs and base game packs to keep up vs all the whales thrown against in new mega regions
4 months of sweaty spending competitions to make a good quarterly report and anniversary spending bump, people arenβt leaving see line go up
I will need some outside opinion on this Google Sheet, do you have any ideas to put more information or other things π‘
I hope I have the right to put a link π€
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They need more abyssal then this game is becoming too toxic.
They need to focus more on individual play not this. You can maybe do this once every 3 months or so not every month. More and more people are quitting because of this game.
They should change the name from afk companions to no more afk all expedition all the time
I still believe we need an off month
On then off
Cycle with abex ---> meaning shorten expedition time
I forget we even have abex,it's like 3-4 months from last one?
I imagine the fact they name changed it to expedition means there will be no more expedition
So only 50 players can get limited time challenge ...
is this for real? lol lilith
This limited time challenge Is this new?
its new
How does it work when multiple people attack a city already captured by a league?
like always the league that get the last hit win or the team manage to def
they added a new feature, yet my region is so dead. What's the point of this challenge when your region has few active players? 
Thousands of leagueless players that canβt get the bullshit compensation rewards in dream realm for putting up with expedition after the bullshit dream realm patch
We took away all your rewards, here have more rewards we already took away from you

Iβd like to see changes that make it harder for βsuper leaguesβ to form, so fights go on until the end:
β’ No rewards at all if you switch leagues mid-season.
β’ Shuffle guild placements on servers every time (to make collusion harder).
β’ City durability shouldnβt reset β so even weaker leagues can eventually take a city by hitting it enough.
β’ Donβt mix players who swore allegiance with those who didnβt.
Teaming up into super leagues ruins the whole game. I just wanna see everyone fighting it out fair and square till the last day.
Btw. how to loot "non-fakes" (avoiding the 50 tide shell loot)
Look at people who have lost significant %'s like 13%+ (usally at min 87% or lower)
== guaranteed loot
If two leagues attack the same city, where will the troops of the losing league go? To capital or to the starting city?
And if capital is under attack?
Basically, we will return to where we were before the assembly, but as a result of losing, if the route to the original location is blocked, we will return to the port of the starting point.
If your capital is under siege and you also lose a defence those teams get returned to the start
Thanks
since people are stuck
did it this time with #1 cha, #2 albedo, #3 sjw, #4 laios, #5 marci + celestwing
did it last time with #1 twins, #2 aSolise, #3 lyca, #4 trishea, #5 nevanthi
i used (in placement order) asolise, trish, nevanthi, twins, lyca (was 3rd to beat it) but thats what first guy used and it should work as long as ur heroes are tran1 and have si30, twins get pushed to mythic if u use the p2w wilder team
having to 1v3 at the end again 
not sure what happend since i didnt take part in anything - so atleast its not tilting me too much - but damn - im not that happy about it
i thought i connected all folks to a roundtable - and as far as i hear its a big bowl of betrayels again 
this mode is not meant for me 
i'm in the same
its time for me to pull the string of other league hehehe
ahaha
rough
teh sunken are ally so ist 2v 1 again world class
fuck that I use it as a farming opportunity now and just chill, idc about the leaves anymore
its not the leaves im after the scarlet skin bc it looks honestly good this time 
i dont even have a single scarlet copy 
currently on track to get the first 100 points for the skin tho
Does anyone know how member βtierβ works and how itβs increased exactly?
Leader give it
iperx you didnt even get the good clip
we are the peach 8 attacks on us that day
the problem is we put all the logical people on the same team
should have ran 2 teams
and 2 betrayals
leader can give permissions to deputies as well
How do the races work? We fought for a city at the samectime as our neighbor league, had 11mil more power 20 more unrallied reinforcements more total kills and the other team won the city. We were ahead the entire time, they only had two lanes pushed up when we finished the walls yet they got the city. How is it calculated or did the game just bug and screw us?
If you both reach the walls the game just coinflips when it is beaten to see who gets it
Thats the most braindead dev decision I've ever heard.
Is that confirmed or just your suspicion?
Like you destroyed the base first and they still got it?
It seems it had a shared health pool, they did 25k dmg then got pushed back for 20 minutes. By the end we had all lanes pushed up for like 15minutes before they got two lanes pushed up. Once we killed the wall it said we lost
They were still killing garrison when it was done
Like I said we were ahead the entire time in kills lane pushes and power.
By quite a bit
Confirmed. But that should be the case if all lanes are hitting. I guess both the teams were attacking the walls at the same rate. At that point it is random
Or at least dealing dmg to walls at an equal rate
Well I hope they fix that because it kind of ruined my whole expectations for the game mode. No other game would say they won that. Makes staying up till 2 am 4 days in a row useless.
For sureregret spending money now
@inland halo appreciate your help though thanks for the answers
Last hit on the wall takes the city. No matter on how much lanes each league has reached the wall. With more troops and/or more lanes only the chances are bigger to make the last hit on the wall.
Yeah I got a response from support saying the same. What a waste of a good mechanic to make the entire race useless, might as well just skip all the fighting and do a coin flip. Hope they fix that.
tmw when you fail to roll divine envoy / bomber and skipped over siege specialists 
this mode sucks, nothing to do with an afk game, my very VERY humble opinion, ty for coming to my ted talk 

Can someone tell how much troop strength we need to defend against a total power of 1100M?
We already defended cities with only about half the power of the attacker, but how does this work?
u need about half of the enemy power maybe could do it with one third but that would already be tough if the enemy deputy knows what they are doing, safe bet is half
really depends on your defensive strat
if they do lock cannon left and right you cant def with half
if you fight with stronger teams and better powers like envoy e.g. you can deff
but best bet is like speed rushing an easy town
deffing with little units like 45-60
and then sending all to deff
if you cant speed run rush a city then you cant do that strat
Thanks, this is helping me out big time
Locking cannon appears only useful when on the wall and extreme man power advantage
yea def there are variations of the strat - see a lot of leaders handle it slightly different and yours seem to be very stable-
Big changes coming everyone, 42 day season, 50 man guilds that are all oath pacted in. Which will be less team stacking more team allying. Complete shake up.
Willing to bet a much larger map to set more focus on PVE more so then PVP
Does the raging thunderstorm prevent all rallies, garrison, or mobilization, or everything?
Can garrison up to the rain then no more
Can fully rally
No mobilizations during battle
love rerolling max amount getting useless garbage 
but then I deal less damage which sucks 
they all meh
yeah thats what I meant and i cant reroll anymore so i rather take none lol
what did happen to NoMercy? Opened my account and saw it was ranked 8.

we got 8 way alliance fucked 


What map of no mercy you got?
Because they are multiple no mercy league in different expedition
This one
The map where Genesis and Montes left I think
They left?
yeah they did leave the game
He really was. The second he quit, we got the win again
Greenboys only lost last season, that's when NoMercy had like 5 leagues
Huge shoutout to Cinnabon and Tsiferki β€οΈ ΠΌΠΎΠΈ Π±ΡΠ°ΡΡΡ
ohh i pass 300 day i need to do my 300 day resume
Let's gooo
what should i put in it ?
I think I put
days played
chapter
money
and ss of my box (ascended heroes)
Gonna post now