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more consistent solution would've been ccing khasos instead of salaki usage
i dont use fawkes at all - but he is a nieche lockdown hero
i whaled on athalia for that lmao
does haelus have any use yet?
ohh i never thought of using him with mira
one day ill have a a5 audrae 
thats the budget version
tho gwyneth needs rosaline
audrae can be solo so you have more room for useful heroes
different use cases
i dont really have a damage lb unit
scarlet is lb tower, dream realm type of gal
like scarlet has more usage for bossing since she is nerfed that hard
yeah her being hard nerfed is kinda putting me off from building her
i'd say atm walker seems better for both cases ngl
the walker propaganda has been working on me š
no propaganda like in that situation you'd use gwyneth
if u use gwyneth she deals 100m less gets ccd and dies
if i had +30 walker he'd clear that cause crit increases ult duration
and a5 would give him lifesteal
100% honest opinion walker can be used in the spots that both scarlet and gwyneth are used in
gwyneth has a better short burst pre ult
walker is better than scarlet after ult
so i'd say its between walker and gwyneth
no cap
i might build walker
even though everyone i talk to shit talks him š
well they dont know about no artifacts in classic
and the nerfs to the other heroes in classic
we have other scalings
and walker is surprisingly good
cc immune aswell in ult
does he have to be A3 for like a minimum investment?
a3 makes him consistent in terms of dealing burst
but you'd need rosa alive to keep him constantly ulting
but you'd rather have other useful supps and him +30'd
im gonna start focusing him once i get abrutus ig
yea lightbearers are weird in general atm
yeah its hard to decide what to build for them
especially when i see gwyneth having like a 3% win rate š
funfact if you get walker to ult before he gets cc'd by graveborn he's better than other stuff against gravesborn comp and probably mauler aswell
because cc immune is a big deal in pvp
main reason why all lbs suck, like everything either outbursts them or cancels them with some kind of cc
They suck bc they used to walk alone. Now they have Walker
But in all seriousness he's the next LB on my list to build as well
Can Anyone help here
same way as before
brutus vs brutus
-> jinwoo assasinate on isabella
other comp cc thane with oku and morrow with nara (or if not strong enough try to tank/cc thane with mishka and place an energy draining hero like oden/isabella)
figure out what is the reason why you lose --> counter that specific enemy hero
and figure out the reason why your comps win or how they win in the first hand --> build team according to their strength while also adjusting it slightly to the countering of the enemies
Thane is shredding me
And on 2 team is the isa the Problem
Thats the second team but team 1 is the issue
you have the counter up there - cc thane, or tank him with brutus
and yes isa is the problem thats why i specifically told you to use jinwoo to counter isa
why are we using oden instead of the mythic mira
just swap her in in the same spot for oden and u win
nice, not that mira is op cos she has cc, great damage and a death immunity
thats why me explain, dw 
Help
swap brutus with mishka then replace brutus with mira and try again
Like that?
yep
Im not sure if Mira will help much without her A1
main stage problems
khasos middle is throwing axe -> deletes stuff in his path
(tidus can be annoying and cc ya/push your cc hero back)
i used an a0 mira in ch43 from my duo 
No rn its not working
u have faction disadvtange on that team maybe swap wiht ur first team
She has no cheat death, sheās just gonna get wiped front line
we have a a1 brutus available that has a cheat death that we can throw into tidus
now we just need to put an athalia, nara or fawkes at khasos and win the stage by default through cha clearing the easy enemies
First team is only talene wirh jinwo
like i said i used an a0 mira from my duo at a 70lv deficit, she obviously stronger with her stars but the marks do a lot of work to increase damage
and what exactly do u swap out for athalia? lyca nevanthi or mishka? then u lose damage/healing i dont think the si20 cha is replacable
can we now just try
#1 brutus against tidus
#2 cha
#4 cc against khasos (athalia/nara preferably)
#3 nevanthi
#5 lyca
What does you using her have to do with anything? 
The rest of the team wasnāt the same, neither were the npcs
can also do #2 mishka and throw out lyca or neva for cha there
that i used her for the marks not as a damage dealer to setup other heroes and she does that perfectly fine at mythic as well
Brutusā cheat death is more valuable here
u need the lyca for hast as a setup for cha no? so only thing dropable would be nevanthi
if you have athalia, athalia is preferd
otherwise use misha > lyca
u need athalia for the faction buff
No athalia on mx acc
lvl 160 lyca gives bearly haste iirc
am wrong
its still 30 haste
less duration/less energy
if u say that 
didnt ur teammate have a +20 mishka?
if you put #2 coop mishka you deal 30% more dmg against that target
and can put on #5 cha instead of lyca
im trying now cuple runs with brutus, mishka, lyca, cha, nevanthi
Just common sense dawg, look at iperx solution
yeah true ur right 
brutus is not only cheat death
it removes enemy dodge and increased damage dealt against them - for cha snowball

yee, but with whom do I exchange lyca
?
#1 brutus
#2 mishka
#3 nevanthi
#4 nara
#5 cha
thats a max brutus
idk what lvl 180 gives
ohh i no bonus stats then, ok i try it
ye try it without bonus
and as a pet? the deer?
we use the +20 coop mishka for increased damage
and want to survive/debuff our way through
if possible owl > deer > fire breather
all have value here
fire breather can provide a good shield when cha hits enemy side
tho haste buff/debuff should work better
if with owl the team instea dies then its deer
nah they shredding me hard
yeah cos u got no faction buff at that level diff its deadly
you could try brutus out and rng mishka vs tidus with deer if he surives that
and then put in lyca back on #5 and cha on #2
but sketchy
You can always reset the stage and try a jinwoo team 2nd instead of first. Or just afk for a day....
talene and jinwo
no enemy wise
i am so smart 
If all 3 of them can't figure out that stage for you, you may need to just reset. Just my opinion
show screens to see the level
just retry 200 times like I do cos i got no life 
i think its the best option
and have no a5 or stuff like that
40lv diff pretty hard already cos no divine effects/max level skills
If this stage is insane and you got a 1st try win on the first stage I would think your first comp is overkill for the stage
Wait it was just them
Lol
i dont think you'd need to push ff anyways - pushing campaign would be more necessary in your terms
Oh this is ff?
yea 20 level diff on sjw is brr
Just afk lol
whats ff?
forked fate
no its not no requirement top right
its normal campaign
You right
Iperx said ff I got confused lol
man and u guys are supposed to be professional 
ff also has a scorched earth background and eery stage so
it literally looks like ff

ahh the other campaign its ff right?
At least
ye
I guess you are the best of us
I feel you 
no winter said im bad 
@tawny sorrel sometimes, especially before you have a couple teams pretty built out, you just need to afk
i tbf cant tell lvl 160 pve is a bit weird on my main it was just shalltear vs world
and here its sjw vs world
That 2nd stage needs a Sonja or LB focused comp
why dont we use sjw with another distraction hero if its just 2 heroes
and use the talene to get faction buff
Sonja early is nuts
but idk sketchy retries needed since no cc on for that early stuff a strong khasos
audrae instead of lyca could also work well maybe
audrae is pretty good even on elite early on in campaign
I see alot of jinwoo + cheat death/stall heroes + talene for my FF
Sitting at 38 or 39
instead of thinking about that i will now watch my anime and prob sleep soon am tired from that much social parties - too many ppl asking stuff about me and telling their stuff about children now 
ok now i have talene for the second team
Although normal Jinwoo mauler rush is more consistent
can see that, sjw is an engine for himself
and if they have problems with maulers dying and no a5 skregg for the 100 energy -
team 1 was jinwoo mira and rowan
^^ yup missing the a5 skregg i think is the biggest part + having some maulers still at E+
GGUUYYSSSS
You may need Jinwoo for the 2nd team as it stands right now. I'm not completely sure your account can pass it at this time.
I BEAT IT
What worked
@small iron @fierce pasture @cerulean bramble
@small iron goated call with talene at 2nd stage
Nice work! At this point you are figuring it out better than them 
!! yea nice job
since no videos the fiddling has to be done manual - if khasos is the stage boss and in center back, he can be annoying at times
tho generally less worse than much other stuff
first cha ult dealing 0 to khasos 
yea brutus was necessary there
tbf tho debuff from cha changed to him and mishka might've also triggerd his debuff for increased dmg
gl gl
wtf the next boss stage is a counter team vs my
Second team is win but its Full mauler
Swap Talene and Brutus position
Probably not enough but it should help. What is the issue specifically
Anyone have ideas on dealing with this Orthos? I don't think I can beat it quite yet.
im dying to fast, its time to stay afk
Yeah, you can play around with Rowan and Hodge and try to make something work but you are basically as far as you can right now
have u tried tasi instead of mishka?
I did alot of Tasi tries, seems Mishka wasn't needed afterall. Oku stun on Trez was needed plus some rng
oku taunt good idea didnt think of that 
I'm actually a big Oku fan. He does a great job of acting as a distraction and can cc problematic front liners if he doesn't get one shot
By the time I get to iperx and y0m deficits he'll probably just fall over
used against treznor charge and thane lunge, also been used sometimes to break buffs such as brutus invincible - but yea his taunt usage is nieche atm - and most of the time not possible against everything
Who should I be working on?
How do you have enough fodder to do so much legendaries, how long you been playing
20 days
just follow general wishlist and copy stuff and ur good 
ur account is completely cooked
is ahead of the curve, + a5 sjw - tho that guy should spent his time in the rickety cart reverting all those half baked heroes
at legendary its still possible to get all that fodder back
āspent time in the rickety cartā is the new āunder the stairs corner of shameā 
Nah i just grinded hard
It's abit suc need to wait daily rewards to farm since im f2p player
you do mistakes while ascending heroes
we're just warning you about that so that you can ascend - its legit to reach that as f2p
Sry mb
Almost every new player makes that mistake it's no biggie
Just read through the pins listed in #companions-questions and check out the reddit guides on r/AFKArenaCompanions

lvl up rowan to 180 >>> use lvl 200 coop heroes == profit
I need the Ressource..
could try to farm sjw resets against isabella and the small sniper guy
and maybe use aSolise for 2nd comp
but you kinda run maybe run out of steam
you kinda play without divinity so higher than 35 level diff with a0s is sometimes hard
on my f2p i managed later on up to like 80 level diff with bune duo
that was after lvl 321 tho
early on 40 diff is good
Its hard to get the Ressource to level up
Yea its a long grind 
Alliance Burning Brute meta 2025-09-02
4B (no t3/t4 units and no belinda/rosa +30)
time to max them sooner or later ig aswell 
Alliance Hound meta 2025-09-02
floor 120
floor 110
why no msg
is there any way to incorporate rowan after i ascend him?
pls man take a ss like a normal human being
and yes ofc but ur overkilling on that team using full wilders with sjw u will need rowan once ur having 2 teams on the enemy side
Guild Hunt - Dune - 40B
I've been gone for a while but I made a new account to start playing again, is Wu Kong still early game king before level 100? any tips would be appreciated!
all guides for companions are in #companions-questions pinned or in the sailus guide finder on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/comments/1lmirc0/guide_finder_sailus_shodee_light/
Hey j don't have discord on my laptop okay stop the judging š
And thanks
damm i didnt knew i could still rush them at this late of a cpt
what stage is that
i dont think i even want to know
Guild hunt
Any teams against forest comp in pvp?
My forest team just can't compete with others
Trisha a3 s+29
ASolisa s2 s+20
Mishka a2 s+0
Nevanthi a5 s+20
Lika a5 s+0 (or Tazi a3 s+0)
its cos ur lyca sucks and ur asolise doesnt have her cheat death with si30
2025-09-04
demonic nemora
alliance meta
2nd fight gets probably higher numbers with albedo maybe even safiya
couldnt get highern numbers with lyca instead of cha intrestingly enough
but also just a lot of rng stuff
Why does it say stage 45-57 at the top lol
Oh I didnāt know that
Good thing Iām not good at it donāt wanna embarrass myself
Second and third team for golden frontier?
why is trish front lining?
2nd team maybe try: Albedo, shalltear, marci, laios and then either mira or talene
3rd team: abrutus, salaki, crassio, sjw and skreg/numisu
if u arent using talene on ur 2nd team swap her for skreg/numisu on the 3rd team
dune 44.4M
am getting close to the 48M
atalene is actually doing more dmg than normal talene with the setup u used before 
Yea was testing stuff out since aTalene setup only deals 6-8B and 8B very rarely
this positioning was consistent for me last 2d
I want to find something bigger am maybe throwing Mira Grezhul in for the "jokes"
Maybe also just Mira or Grezhul instead of Mehira
very sus wording, i dont think grezhul would make it better maybe mira can deal some good dmg
trying tonight 
Help me pls
I can always manage to defeat a boss, and only one is left for me
My Sjw is cleaning both sides
friend heros:
First team:
Mishka, Brutus, Lyca, Mira, Nevanthi - Pet: Deer
Second team:
Brutus, SJW, Salaki, Rowan, Rosa (follow SJW) - Pet: Owl
in that order as well! rosa needs to be the one getting hooked on the 2nd team
No matter which team SJW is on, I win
what does that have to do with what i told u as a lineup
Sry didnt mean like that, Only one team causes problems.
did u try what i said? otherwise i cant adjust it 
I tried the first team, its not working and for the second team u said again brutus
I cant have 2 brutus in one run 
ohh yeah just use smth else for brutus 2nd team, i was eepy
First team is not working 
cant do any better than that - other than trying to use Mehira/Mortas or Audrae if you have them to cheese the fight
if so it'd be nevanthi away and one of the cheese units in- you are missing dps heroes and only have tanks/supports aside from sjw
only thing that could work is trying friends eironn but a a0 +0 eironn without being evenly matched in levels is kinda meh
Need help creating a 2nd formation
Need help making 2 lineups for campaign
carssio sometimes being a clanker npc bot
mira or grezhul did similar damage (instead of mehira/haste)
Any ideas/help on my second lineup? I'm clueless on where to focus
Need help for guild boss
last 3d i used it he was always consistent, must be a you-problem 
Any suggestions on other options for this team? I tried Hendrik in Sonja's spot but everyone died even faster, and the other solutions for this stage have Brutus in where Sonja is but I'm using Brutus on another team
is grezhul to tanky or does fawkes kidnap gwyneth?
--> if fawkes doesn't cast you could try brutus as a frontline stall is still available
(belinda is the highest atk 4 faction unit in the game - so anything placed infront of her mostly dies on high diff)
other than that I'd only have like something as using haelus
or using a whole other comp
Neither, it's actually the enemy Belinda that does me in. Gwyn holds up with the team in that screenshot but gets decimated the second Belinda ults
does she ult after killing sonja or does she ult just from time passing?
athalia on belinda could be an viable cheese for you to cc her and prevent energy regen
otherwise maybe like using Brutus again to deny her gaining energy fron killing something
aswell as if you decide to use on using celestials/hypogeans the haste debuff and freeze from ice crown
(pet)
Looks like it's after killing Nimisu, Grez takes down Sonja pretty quickly
I'll give Athalia a shot
i mean if you want to be mean and "overcook" with your hypogeans and celestials you could try something like this
ezizh taunts belinda, oku deals with grezhul, athalia/khazard deal with backline hopefully
and talene tanks the estrilda charge and rebirths
I actually used Ezizh in another earlier lineup successfully š
hard if he is used because the taunt would be nice here
but gz!!
@small iron hey, help pls)
use your guilds hunting blades heroes and search for "wrizz" in #companions-chat / #companions-questions / #companions-lineup-help
Ty
Got it
not sure if they're any help at ur stage but basically trishea wilders with twins and mortas is what my f2p is doing a lot
other than that a dims comp, a lightborn comp with thane
and a mixed comp with mira/crassio
46-16 current working formations from y0m (2nd doesn't work for me so far)
hook me up with ideas
its 138 level diff 4x Brutus, 2x Flora
what's a good lineup to counter against SJW lineups in arena?
there is no counter to untargetability
preventing his ult with your own untargetability or like characters that do not die like talene/aBrutus
@pallid cove 4 of 46-16 is managable with gwyn
I'll try to remove brutus and retry to free him up
not like the haelus is the problem for yom 
seems to be doable with numisu too but way more rng again
its rng even with haelus the missing brutus not tanking the highest atk hero in the game is kinda scary
what is the best team i can afford rn i'm on 6-28
Whats the best team that i can help to deal as much damage as possible in guild hunting?
Which hero will be the best with my current lineup
Guys help pls, what need for this boss
cant help with that i do have a huge tip,
stop building heroes that you dont have extra copys of
ya can level a legendary up to 140 at which point you will get stuck
instead build legendary tier units to level up and yeet them to the resonating cristal
tho if you have 8 copys of a hero then go ahead
il link a example
bad quality sadly but should be readable
You won't make it at level 180, you need higher level to be able to kill it. Even at level 1 of the boss it will just instantly wipe your team xD

Day 4 of the server, only 2 heroes are above level 180.
Yea i made that mistake as well lol
thinking oh hey a boss no one has ranked for, easy first place
till you get wiped at lvl 1 of the boss š
I don't know how, but on the previous server, I beat level 55 of this boss, and my level was much lower.
š
GG easy rank 1 lol
Oh really? mhm maybe i was at a much lower level then when i had the event the first time
Mb
Thank you
@pallid cove @fierce pasture gg - crown comp SJW worked - using raine > rowan was the important change
im da goat
ggs
Raine -_-
those all work @pallid cove
you can try rowan is less powerful than raine but more consistent in ulting
raine took like 80x tries to work
hmm yeah maybe I'll try a bit but working tomorow so it if doesn't work in a couple autobattle sesh I'm done :p
It did eventually work with Rowan instead of Raine
Took maybe 60 attempts IDK I didn't really keep track
but I didn't try the other squads cuz it's late
Would someone help me create a progreession team please im at chapter 8
Right but i dont have 3 of those heroes so i was asking for help cause i dont have those
u can just throw random shit together at ur stage as long as its wilders and has a faction buff, otherwise try the copy formation button at the bottom left
hey, can someone suggest me a second team other than wilders? a sjw team perferable, a 3rd team would be appreciated ^^
unholy stage 
I failed to replicate my yesterday night win with Rowan in nearly an hour of retries then enters Kren and it worked 1st attempt, maybe I got super lucky, Idk @small iron
maybe the replay can help
if this mfer isn't an hyper carry, I don't know who is 
doesnt work for me unfortunately but 43-16 this is getting close for fight 3
geeze, I was about to type that my celestwing is too weak to beat squad 2 but just as I saw your reply it finally worked -_-
who's the 1st hero?
albedo
almost got it with that, flora dropped to the floor as Shall died -_-
I saw the stars it made me think it couldn't be her lol
thinking you have her at T1
Guys can u help me build my wishlist
@small iron the team I was trying to beat squad 3 with actually works for the first one.... the only problem is the SJW/maulers team can't beat squad 3 either, this one is really cursed
I just give up, tired of this shit tbh
its okay buddy get some rest 
yeah I will 
Zeph has beaten it, of course he did
Check pins in #companions-questions
Idre 44.7B (with +30% DMG)
@fierce pasture @small iron i Need your help counsel
I dont know who to put in skriath
Position Every1s good but preferebly not sjw
does it not work with him? u could change kren and skriath position and use skreg as frontline
I found a suitable Solution
Will work with 1-2 more Levels Till then ill just wait
I used your Teams 4 5 and another guys 1 and 2 and built my own 3
its beatable at ur level already 100% if u swap around a bit im sure
Canāt bother

urgh for this stage you need to beat 3 things
#1st Belinda burst (prio target)
#2nd Kez dodge rng (if physical attackers)
#3rd Tasi warps
is for sure beatable but the solution doesn't look clean unless crassio is able to burst belinda down
and after all of that you still have a meatshield seirus, that could possibly be annoying - but not as rough as the other 3 heroes
if crassio beats belinda and skriath beats kez
then the stage should be easily able to be done
if not swap formation
I wasnt able to kill that Fish
I made skriath si20 and Beat it First try
lol I do trust you if you tell me it worked
usually I have to replace athalia though, Si20 only for me :/
Hmm 
I use her a lot in cases where I need anti-heal but also rather want burst than something slow and steady like a silas
not sure if that is reproduceable stumbled upon that after throwing everything around but maybe haelus not needed and a numisu or safiya does the job there @pallid cove
very nice!
thats great we get more folks to push together ayee!!
if Zeph breaks the bank for a5 Leo we're fucked though lol
but he didn't for celestwing so maybe he won't either for Leonardo
!! @pallid cove 5 pull safiya worked on 1
!!
Hey mate ya playing this game still? Imma need some help building new 5 arena teams with my new sheet.
o damm
what map
nice account by the way
so now the team are
- abrutus + sung and other mauler
- thrishea team doesnt change (you can try tasi better on some map)
-dim team we don't use ainz but marcyle + laios (no tasi)
-gwen no big change
-mira + grave born
do you have an a0 celestwing or better?
i didn't put pet but that what i would have done
rough then I'd roughly agree with oxir
otherwise I'd have said thoran, talene, mira, shalltear and silas with celestwing
that not for everyone
celestwing need to be big
yea a0
does thoran have to be a5 si30 for this team?
even me i don't have a a0 one
nope you take him for the rebirth stall he can even die
same as mira
at the end you have shalltear and talene left
if i dont have shalltear i just use flora correct?
can replace silas for flora if asc flora
if you dont have shalltear use flora, any rank
okay š
for more stall but needs celestwing
ill try it soon once i a0 my celestwing
formation shouldnt be first defense, make jinwoo the first rng beater with either fire breather or owl pet (depending on maulers / or other dims like albedo)
--> and then do graveborn stall celestwing and you have a setup that drains 99.9% of enemies of options
and you can place your 3 leftovers teams for everything after and they're even useful at that spot, because not much will be left for them to clean
for me its a good team just befor your wilder
yea you can put wilders after but like the thing is
enemy has to match sjw with sjw
so by having them fight of 1st you drain their first op weapon
and if sjw is alone celestwing can focus him
so even if they win
they lose
most ppl in my server r putting sjw in like the 2nd or 3rd team
no more resetting and its gg from there
so you put: dim -> the celestwing team -> abrutus sjw -> gwen ->wilder
depends on the server
if you have albedo access dims first with sjw
if you dont have albedo access
sjw first with maulers
unholy snow map whale setup 
tbf my competition has more +30s and more t2 than me 
how good does that comp with haelus work?
Nice! Is placement order correct? And pets stay the same?
hmm idk wasnt able to test it since if i place it early against their dims it loses
but i believe lucius to be right in there because snowmap and cc immune (his shield hold ++ increased energy gain) == he can ult while little others like arthur and trishea only can do so
but overall haelus been doing better with gwyn than numisu
would say
#1 formation 10, #2 formation 7, #3 formation 8, #4 formation 11 and #5 formation 9
but yea do seem fine-ish
can only say grezhuls been a huge disappointment on graveborns
hmm seems like an interesting comp to test
might be able to test it on servers that dont have dims like shalltear abledo and stuff
yea only little folks do know about snow map lucius since there are plenty other prios to build - so not many even have him ready to go
++ he's generally t oslow in most other stuff and fumbles
mezoth is probably the most op hero in snow tho because cc immune and hhuge stat increase - so also being able to ult - while stealing stats and executing below 20%
Nice! And what about front/backline positioning
but no one will build that guy because yea hard to build a guy with that little usage
Tweaked the wilder to not get trish front
depends on maps
Let's say normal
you have maps with #4 front #1 back
#2 front #1 center #2 back
#3 front #2 back
like
i cant tell you every variation 
if you're 73-29 in classic you'll manage positioning 
Sticking to #2 front $3 back xD
Naaah mate im not 73-29
76 by now xd
But thats another topic
yea in general use like cheatdeaths fighters front first like thoran/shall
aside thats fighters first
dodgers on the usual enemy attackers spot like middle center
and your weaker supports/mages on left right flanks
put huge aoe threats as thrisea on #4 spots and target basically clumped heroes
Oh comp gods Tell me who to Play here instead of laios that Mf hes so useless without Stars
No one literally no one works who i can think of
the problem that you have is that the laios itself is doing 2 things for you, he's taking care of lucius stopping his healing and shielding
while also stopping the isabella from oneshotting the fight
means any replacement would be able to take care of both
and if we use f.e. mehira haste as cheese
or a nara pull or athalia enery/heal debuff
--> we still end up with one of the two working
Isnt laios also Boosting marci?
since isabella targets the mirror you could try swapping shall on that laios spot and laios f.e. on that shall or albedo spot
thats just a side benefit
but i believe he's used here to ult and with his ult to shut down lucius and isa
Im really considering Building him
Literally no joke hes the sole reason i have to configurate crowns comps by alot
he's not bad - he fumbles a lot and needs some rng and the higher the diff the mroe he fumbles
but if you get him to ult - he almost instawins a round depending on his positioning
because he can shut down 3-5 enemies
He seems to be a key Role Yea
i mean he's also used for quite a bit of dream as a buffer - so he's not a bad investment overall, you just have plenty of other good stuff
crown whaled his way in, like hard to compare you're still the highest f2p im aware of
Yea let me Show You the other solutions
Its obvious there
Ill do that later
Thing is im at a Point Where those Little upgrades make the difference
you're in the tough role
I dont have the si for laios rn anyway so thatll have to wait
yea you like lose your mind over random t2 stones, over small pet level like a6 pets
because you're already rng retrying stages
Thats all i can do yes
Even that One comp from Feierabend is Rough its just the First One Thats f2p friendly
I got really Lucky that crowns Teambuilding Style is very f2p friendly as he doesnt build comps around celestwing and doesnt have op celehypo
Oh and cha is really replacable
Just the f ing laios
yea the daddy/feierabend guy seems like to be the easiest solutions
and to replace cha with like a random other unit that might work
like besides crown those two seem to have lower steam solutions
Ill give Daddy ago
A go
Tried Feierabends already
30 tries in already with that gwen comp will be a long one
Yo Iperx
Yee
would work as 4th or 5th comp
I was thinking eironn Brutus crassio
problem is
sjw kills it, shalltear kills it aBrutus kills it, mira kills it
and pretty sure that trishea also kills it if you dont use lyca/eironn
Maybe Salaki skregg?
Yea but those would also kill my graveborn comps easily
like it works against gwyneth at best
would do a mira centre, mira kinda sweeps comps instead of gwyneth
and gwyneth rosa in the back
As you command š«”
and idk personally I'd do sjw on #1st and your dims on #2
but tbh thats just my experience that I like my shalltear/talene on #2 (tho I use it with a fat celestwing) - so might be the wrong call
Most people start with Their Wilder Team is what Ive noticed
how is your sjw doing against that isnt wilder free resets for him?
Well
Lets take a Look
seems like it
Take a Look at that 4 v5 he won ahainst trish hahah
yea lmao
I did it as You Said now
The Fact that i lost against beacher shows us the Order is wrong i should Sweep him
We did a si comparison in the Guild yesterday and i literally have more si30 than Zupfie and Feierabend
The two strongest players on our Server exept for hyroplyrodon who spent around 2k
Those two prob did like 1k
@proven yacht idre 50b (with gwyneth not low rolling, atleast +1.5B more possible for me)
is atalene worse on r2 instead of grezhul?
Hello, is getting arthur worth it ?
i think shes worse when using audrae as carry yea
grezhul increases dmg taken by 25% - but might be close
grezhul dealt basically with his debuff 873M dmg with every hero and pet combined (3495M * 0,75 = 873M)
if you get enough dimsouls to build him - currently yes
idk if it will be the same way in 3 months, maybe a better tank releases and so on
but what you always can do is stack arena coins - as they seem to be unlimited
so you could wait till you have 420k arena coins and only buy necessary emblems like f.e. red ones or none at all whatever you want
and ask the question to that time again and say "hi, I have 420k arena coins is arthur still worth it"
-> since the biggest limiting factor are red emblems I'd always buy 20 reds and save up leftover resources, if you really dont need the other emblems
otherwise focus on emblems before thinking about another hero you'd have to worry about building/ascending
his arena store price is dirt cheap compared to his event unlock cost - so 420k arena coins are nothing compared to the 81$ that were needed to get him for p2ws (Imo)
so even if you're p2w you can just buy emblems elsewhere and get arthur from the arena store
okok 
nice 
I'm trying to replicate at floor 439 that is quite similar but so far no luck
im hella stuck at orthros floors cos people either use safiya like u or a si30 a5 crassio 
nvm, I just had to complain
the winning fight was literally happening as I was typing my complaint 
complaining always works istg 
it does.
wpp!! glad for you!
wow you and fantasy zoomed up to me today 
Thanks! I had a good day, ngl :p
Complaining always works
I'll give credit where credit is due, at the LB tower, it's the korean leviathan that beat the stage first
took me a good 2 hours to get it
i cant beat the lb tower like catching up to -1 to you guys with a scarlet win took like half the day lmao
gotta love thane vs gwyn rng
yeah I haven't beaten it yet, not sure I'll make it
?
they were like fuck it mauler tower is juiced now 
yeah that's brutal
guess u wont progress that for like 2 months 
the wilder one I can beat team 2 with either solise or trish team but team 1 Athalia just murders the whole party
Yea but like wtf not even our campaign has +30s
@green siren they bricked mauler tower
come back and dm support for me
why would they listen to kasu? š®
Kasu has a bigger budget
pretty sure thats not intended just dm support

glad they playtested our mauler tower
I'm stuck at mauler 446 anyway xD
im pretty sure they dont play test shit otherwise they would realize how absolutely ass the cd in shadow realms is and how terrible the whole expedition mode feels to play every month doing the same shit for 30d
u lied on ur ss then 
it'd be great if they'd just respond to my bug report with a
yeah unintentionally though, or iperx hadn't done his clears yet idk
i do u one better they dont reply at all 
Die
+1
I did get Athalia Si30 today, if that makes me stuck 5 floors before an unbeatable one I'm fine with it
cuz she already proved useful in campaign š

athalia feels so good since the patch they did
i think they made the multi-attack animation after the crash instant and before you were kinda self stunlocked for a second
yeah she'll also be great in pvp for me now, I think I made the right choice
Fortune Firecrackers 21.5B
I'll take any ideas that could help me to get to 24B for the next chest level.
here is a worse micro adjustment for 3 and 4
Why is walker the goat
goated status - idk
but this one is weird because like fireworks makes hypogeans and graveborn bad as a fyi
might still be a use silas+30 on 4th team angle
U be sweating in every Mode
idk i need to ask for guild hunt im limited by 3 tries on main and my f2p doesnt have as much to test
and most people wont even bother figuring out good heroes so i just fiddle around to find bigger numbers, document them and go on 
Yea i havent Looked into guildhunt for months
Just do 1 Attack Daily and Move on
With a Poor Team
Once in a While Ill Check if any1 got a team for the Next chest, copy that and move on
yea is enough for most of it
like usally you get 23/24 loot for free that way anyways
but i kinda want to get the 25 and see whether there is an improvement like mythic eq drops or idk
atleast more/better drops in value - since i have so much equip to upgrade and cant because of no equip to fodder
i'll go to bed in 5min - but man i dont want it to be monday 
work takes its toll on me atm
Were in Germany
Tell them your sick literally no one cares
unfortunately all my folks quit and its me and another dude that have to manage for previously 7 people with unfortunately lots of plants in other countries like mexico, slowakia, china e.g.
but yea, if not for that i wouldnt be burned out by it and if not for that it'd be easier to chill out a bit or even take a bit more sickdays unnoticed
its just carrer laddering atm - knew that the place wasnt that great, but it was a huge increase for me - will have to deal with it for a couple of months more so that my cv looks clean and then move on
So what im hearing is
You COULD krank machen however so your work friend doesnt get f ed you go anyway
No one will Care or Remember that you made sick a couple days in a few weeks or when u Switch Jobs
But hey its your call
Hi everyone
I'm hard stuck in chapter 31 and I would need your help for a good 2nd team
As you can see, all my heroes except the ones for my main team are pretty weak, however I still have some rss to invest in my 2nd team
That's why I would like to have a good idea of what my 2nd team would look like in order to know where I should focus my rss from now on
This is my 1st team and my heroes
Ty in advance, it's very helpful
go in #lineup-help
I agree š
And for you who's so much better than a noob who started the game 3 weeks ago it seems to be really hard to give some advices š¤·āāļø
its the wrong channel i have no fucking clue how classic heroes work 
we do a little trolling 
Maybe this too is a skill issue š
Yea it was mainly about finding the channel but double because stuck
Fortune Firecrackers 23/24B any idea for comp 4? 
I feel as though you can fiddle with Marci and laios, maybe moving them to comp 4 while comp 2 gets Crassio
might try that tmrw
intrestingly enough i did quite some numisu frontline sometimes works - but at a1 maybe a far reach
would maybe try fire breather pet instead of mythic celestwing
intresting talene variation
The Unhinged 50.5B (Arden) [with 30% expedition buff]
just retry a bunch of times, that round is super rng heavy like this, u could try skriath bottom and tasi middle and just remove the mehira
Even with M celest?
I've been stuck on this single team stage. Any suggestions on teams to try against it? I can work with any hero except the Overlord collab heroes
Any pet rec works too
S161 and chapter 44
Crazy
what are the recommended team
because it look like a 5 pull rng fight
No recommended formations. Popular formations all use Overlord characters and I've been trying to modify them but no luck so far
can i see one (the lowest power)
Of course š
ainz comp aaahhhh
Figured it out š
yeah it was pretty heavy rng for me when I used that, its just ainz survives=win 
Thank you, I'll be copying that at some point
I hope it works as well for you š
Is this not for companions server like you guys are so far ahead of where mmy server is
it is for the companions server
most of us regulars here have been playing for a while + lot's of high spenders here, hence the insane progress
hey itās me 
Astra where are you at in campaign? 
Farther than most, nice!
I just now got to ch 40 on s178
40-8 as of tn
@smoky finch didn't you say you were at ch 40?
now youve inspired me to try pushing again lol, its so painful tho
If you wait like 3 months maybe I'll reach ch 45 
@dense fable Can you get 40-8, I'll do 40-12
Congrats

Thank you
I almost forgot what this interface looked like after not seeing it for so long
You gotta finish it, be the first to ch 47 
@karmic topaz hell no im at the end of 35š
Anyone could gimme a tip I got enough for a s30 and for a S20
I was thinking either s30 Lycs or marcille
PvP focus
I'm also gonna get Arthur this rotation so my S20 was also thinking saving for him
lycs
i can't get past 2nd team using daisy's comp ill get it eventually
I'll try it later today but no promises
gzz!!! gl!
Consider tasi si20 at some point if you want to min max pvp. Lyca is probably the better si30
Yah was thinking tasi as a priority also but I still don't have chae or Arthur at S20 and maybe those 2 are first priority and then yasi
crassio and skriath si20 asap
Really skriath such a priority???
Si
no im just answering you for fun 
Vurk SI 30 A5 stronger than Kren SI30 A5?
These are the heroās I have I was wondering what should I actually be focusing on
vurk is best hero in all categories
can't change my mind on that
share some videos of him in battle
just imagine him running up and down doing "pew pew pew" and everything dies šš»
you're welcome
this message was brought to you by team vurk
I'm believing in that, rat-atatatata
glide on 'em
Peak 
Mr. Mow em down Vurk
Wont be possible
Show me your other comps Lets See Where You can get some good Heros out
Comp 1 seems good
Comp 2 canāt say i dont know lucretia
Comp 3 i would try to either full mauler w o jinwoo or only jinwoo
Ik, those were mostly just taken from the lower solutions. S178
Good Job
I can really recommend trying to fit a Full mauler comp in there
They work up Till my chapter even
U even have safiya
Dont know how she plays out but You got Everything u Need
Typically I use a Gwyneth Rosa Arthur comp for LB, split maulers up into some with jinwoo and rest as a full group, then wilders w/o Trish and something with Trish
Sounds Great
The ones up above I was just able to steal from others, so the comps were a little weird
Safiya is pretty good imo
U should breeze through those stages
Really helps bring up the dmg as long as you have some type of front line
Copying is Rough for u ik bcs of overlord
Its hard for me to help You
I learned working with my Limited Ressources however i have Overlord
We Are playing two different Games
Yeah game is definitely different
But I get access to lots of good stuff from my duo
Apostle of Grudges lineup?
#companions-questions go to the pins and check sailus' guide
Awesome guide, but this guide has lineups for 6 rounds and there is not 6 rounds of boss
And the apostle of grudges isnāt on there
Yes
How many teams
3
Is your guild struggling to get to tier 11 rewards or ?
No Iām struggling to beat the #1 whale
I'll look one sec
He has me by 2M damage
2M?
Yea
That was just rng
Itās consistent rng
Ye
Can you show me your teams
This is for 4
holy shit most f2p account ive seen
i was not expecting trans 1 heroes š
That aint f2p no way
You need to add the twins in with your wilders and mortas with your maulers
Iāll try it
Remove antandra
And put mortas
Try to put aSol and Trish and Lyca with Twins
You can try with mortas as well
Any specific order
@karmic topaz are ur forked fates team f2p friendly
Uh some
Lemme look at your team rn
Give me 1 sec
oku is only m+
Something like Mira and Flora are good then
i wish i had an a5 mira lol
Or maybe a full GB team plus jinwoo
leg+ is a pain
Yeah
You can try taking your top GB and making a team and popping in jinwoo. You just need fears
Team did more damage, still behind
It was 20m I made a typo btw
Not 2
Probably doesnāt help Iām the blade
š¤£
Yeah they gotta get that switched over š¤£
Was it more than a 2m+ gain?
im giving up on this stage
You need someone better than me at ff
its okay i think it might just be a skill issue on my part
i appreciate the help tho
What are good dps from what I have not sure which is good because sometimes the tank or a different character does more dps than what I thought was my dmg dealer
most reasonable team 5 defense
my duo is trolling what the helly 
lies, deceptions
nah i need aidzens type of si on every hero

best i can do is like audrae + ??? nothing else does anything
its just gladiator shenanigans
@fierce pasture like that arena is so lmao
adjusted my 1-3 again to win
and since then no one has more than 7 battles to me
but its kinda boring
like if i adjust 1-3 i get nothing past me
for 5 to matter
and if i do random brr brr, 5 still doesnt matter
yeah gladiator is pretty random, sometimes wilder also just wipes everything lol thats why I let you take it 
@dense imp hope you can pin that one ^
tyvm!
not again chain of escalation up till vivi
Yep weāre setting it up right now
Here are some examples for the comps
possibly vurk, but that shouldn't be a question you have a hero that can solo clear up to 90 level gap
o maybe i missunderstood the question tho (meant si+30 sjw)
would +30 sjw be a higher priority than solise?
i'm getting lyca up too for dream realm but i'm comfortably leading that rn
1000%
only way to say +30 solise > +30 sjw would be
sjw finish everything already with +20
and you split them up into 5 pull + a aSolise wilder comp
this is what i'm running rn
haven't pushed much
Hi everyone,
Looking for help with Arena comps, to consistantly break into top 100 or 50 every week. Looking to build a first team to counter Wilder comps as most people usually leave it first in their def. Thanks in advance. I'm on server 50
without knowing your server region it looks really bad without albedo +30
your emblems are really low - you need to get albedo 30, mira 30, lyca 30 and crassio 30
aswell as aBrutus 20
fort dream realm you also need lyca 20, skriath 20 to be competitive
to counter wilder place a mauler comp with crassio 30, aBrutus 20 in front
you're also missing marcielle who would've been pretty nice in a dim comp so that you can use your shalltear with graveborn/mira/stall
Scam
Block that
didnt bother yet
I'll wait
ahh ult only
ur signature items are bad, u rly gotta get more emblems from shops and upgrade them 
@small iron @fierce pasture Aight thanks guys, almost have enough to get albedo to A30 and I'll work on getting the rest up! Thanks for the help
Iām in the same boat I believe, itās really hard to catch up
(I wasnāt buying out the weekly reds and other SIs for the first 5 months)
I feel like iām infinitely behind cause of that
I also need to get myself an ascended Laios 
Youre Not behind
Youre thr Average Trust me
I literally bought Everything from the start with only one thought process
Those idiots put all their diamonds in pulls when longterm the only important resource we have Currently Are Emblems so i went all in on them
Back then i was far behind bcs everyone hat more and stronger Heroes so its hard to Tell your Doing something wrong when ur ahead yk
Just do it from now on and youll catch up at some Point
Its Rough for you i can Tell my First Page is filled with si10s
Just put Everything in Emblems every time no questions asked
Ty for the advice. Honestly 9 SI 30s as f2p is really impressive. Iām hoping more and more people quit in my region so I can eventually start placing higher in PvP lol
It sucks cause I didnāt build any bad heroes, just didnāt focus on SIs at all for months. I didnāt think they would be so important here. Iām used to SI 10 and 20 being a joke on classic (we can buy those with gold everyday)
Yea
Ty
Another question: what do you buy from the guild store? Iāve mainly been doing the stargazers since the start, but I feel like itās a never ending struggle when it comes to building celes/hypos, especially f2p (low spender in my case).
You mean arena?
My bad iām a bit ill rn. Yes arena lol
alrighty ty
Yeah I would only suggest SG in shop if you are a big spender and already got the reds
I would Save the Extras
I dont know if you can afford to buy out all Emblems but if so Save the Rest vor Bad Times
Wondering can anyone help me push? I just started companions
And help me join an active guild
this no work what do i do š§š¼āāļø
it works retry like 100 times 
Rowan si30 then put him at Hendriks Spot
Yea Rowan would probably solve it
could also replace nimasu for Sonja or something
get stronger faction buff
what now
i don't believe in factional advantage it's all a lie
its 25% u should believe in it 
gj tho 
25% ain't nothin
i just hit attempt and if it doesn't clear like first 2 tries i swap formations til im stuck on only 1
then brute force that
that works at ur level it wont do the trick later 
yeah i like halfway look at other peoples comps to assume what will prob work as well
like put solise where they won with solise and obvious stuff
but ik it won't work forever
copying people is totally fine, I do the same, just saying that the 25% get more and more important the higher u get cos the percentage dmg is smth making comps more consistent
Im stuck but feel like i should be able to get farther. Here is my stuff
Been messimg with nevanthi in the front and using tasi for banish sleep. It works pretty decent but still struggling with second team options
Also cant ever hit stage 10 on realm and suck at guild bosses not sure if theres kinda am all around team for that or what
@wind rampart you're going to want twins and mortas if you want to place better with bosses
I would ignore athalia and zeph and focus stargaze on getting a copy of those 2 mentioned above and then just spamming talene until max
stop doing too many legendaries...
yea
Which line up for pvp guys
What do you mean
I just pulled twins and im 30 frsgments into mortas with talene in my next scamgazer selection definitly still need pushing tips for my teams though if yoy wouldnt mind giving md some tips
Restart. Waaaay too many legendary heroes
But why I am new dont understand it
You simply wasted too much fodder. The point is to preserve fodder heroes (the ones that canāt exceed lvl 160) and only to use them on heroes that you have enough copies of you at least take to L+
Ideally ascended
I suggest restarting on a new server (or the same one if ur not too late) and play properly
You will be bottlenecked for ages now
Also the fact you started building Oscar is baaaad, heās one of the worst lightbearers
If you want to play optimally I suggest reading the pinned messages here
Ok thank you sad I donāt know
Itās ok, and feel free to ask if you need some help 
he becomes weaker if you are able to tank him over a period of 60s
Im just not understanding i asked for help for lineups and got general tips which are great but how am i supposed to progress if im not legendary my heroes
Im stuck at chapter 22 like do i just wait untill i pull enough to get a second strong team or whats the case here
What they are saying is you are stuck at ch 22 bc of not following those tips and that you should adjust to that for long term success
I'm on 9-1 started around 3-4 days ago, what's the best team for me and what should I focus on?
stop doing legendaries unless u can fully get them to ascended
š what else?
Iām at 8-22, what should I do to improve? Any characters I should try and go for?
Should I js restart
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