companions-questions

[delicate juniper]

Legendary+ gear is a dime a dozen, mythic gear is buyable from the store but you start getting them through afk rewards after chapter 35

Drops are rare though, it depends on your luck. I get a mythic piece once every week or every couple days if I'm on a good streak. Sadly a lot of the time it can be either faction less or cele/hypo faction, but it's still mythic so.

Trishea has high DPS output, just keep her in backline and keep growing her. She's cracked if you invest in her

[proud atlas]

is insane as in insanely little or wot?

[shell flume]

upgrade skill, increase limit level which is big boost

[gleaming bobcat]

thats 15% thats a lot yeah. transcendent gives u 2% im comparison also thats a fodder hero

like u want a 100% power increase or what? its an afk game it takes time to get stronger

[proud atlas]

no lmao it's just that I hadn't seen anything lower than like 10%

[gleaming bobcat]

also like the guy above me said u upgrade skills and raise the level cap

[gleaming bobcat]

its going to be less and less and more grindy (in terms of time u have to idle) to keep upgrading stuff

[proud atlas]

damn okay :(

[gleaming bobcat]

slow process once u hit like level 320/340 and have most useful heroes on a decent level

if u dont want to wait u gotta swipe

[proud atlas]

I mean personally I thought it slowed down a bunch but I'm only at lvl 100 :(

[gleaming bobcat]

it will slow down even more haha

also u can upgrade pretty regularly until level 300 u just need a good duo and to be active in campaign and forked fate

same for all the little mini games

[proud atlas]

what's forked fate?

[gleaming bobcat]

this

[proud atlas]

ohhhh tyty

[gleaming bobcat]

just push and play and u can do a lot in the beginning but like i said it will become less and less

[proud atlas]

yeah I am just so used to playing minmaxing games like diablo and path of exile so I kinda always fear that I am doing something horribly wrong and missing out on a lot of progress because of it

but as I've talked to other people it doesn't really seem like it

[gleaming bobcat]

u can also min max a lot in this game by being efficient and pushing as high as u can, but as long as u follow the guides u cant do smth wrong rly

and if u have questions try reading the guides first and then ask, not ask and then read guides cos loads of people do that

[proud atlas]

yeah I get that, it's just there is SO many guides and most of them are for classic and then most of them don't say if they're for classic or companions

right now the really only problem I have is guilds and like ofc I wanna join a good one but this server (S215) seems to be so extremely new so none has really progressed lol

[gleaming bobcat]

the list by sailus and shodee here in the pinned messages is basically everything u gotta know in terms of guides

[gleaming bobcat]

just make ur own and tell people to join or look through ur server chat

[shell nest]

Shemira maxed out , + Oden or + Hodkin in wishlist ?

[gleaming bobcat]

hodgkin i would say, oden is decent as well tho

[shell nest]

ok

[wintry osprey]

Thank you for this. I was not understanding and wow this makes way more sense.

[proud atlas]

what should one spend my diamonds on? should I spend it on the dimensional spirit for chance of the limited time characters or should I just continue pushing normal pulls?

[nimble ore]

I agree with the hodg rec

[late apex]

Do you get 7k contrinbution points if you defend too or only by attacking?

[maiden apex]

do i need to pull safiya ?

[prisma junco]

Can you coop with players from other servers?

[blazing dirge]

Is there anything I can do with these?

[terse tree]

What’s the best comps for each mode

Is that a thing in this game or is everything different every time

[shut arrow]

what the diffrent about campainons and classic server?

[short ginkgo]

No 🤣

[proud shard]

I would save my summons until some testing has been done and a consencus is reached, unless you're a spender then sure

[sleek valve]

im already past campaign chapter 4 and the wishlist still isn't unlocked in the tavern
do i need to do more?

[maiden apex]

im not so imma wait thx for the answer

[proud shard]

I think you just have to summon 120 times before its unlocked

[sleek valve]

ah ty

how do i get to be able to get heroes from the unlimited summons? i only get skins

[proud shard]

And we'll have an answer about safiya, ive already seen an A5 safiya from someone in my expedition

[proud shard]

Your able to get at best roll, a skin, a hypo and a good 4f character. Preferably a trishea, lyca, mira a good 4f

[sleek valve]

ah ty

[polar linden]

Who should I put as the reward in here? I’m f2p

[proud atlas]

should I also follow the rule for classic about not leveling up ascended heros above e+? and if so why

[shell flume]

twin / mortas copy

[shell flume]

yeah , to not waste resource

[proud atlas]

how am I not wasting resources? like is it so I can put them into a better character or? and if so how would I know which character to actually put it in? do I just follow like the tierlist or something?

[tepid holly]

There is a limited amount of fodder you can get and putting all your characters high up will limit the amount that you can use for a good character causing it where your limited to do

[proud atlas]

wutt, how am I limited on just unlimited summons? or am I missing something

[tepid holly]

Follow this and sailus guidefinder in pinned

[shell flume]

for hero u can focus on thris/lyca/mishka if u can up trish a0 first

[tepid holly]

It takes way longer if you pump up all the characters immediately and is less time efficient then it is to save up for a good Character that is higher up then others

[shell flume]

the new hero is she good @tepid holly ?

[tepid holly]

At the moment Trish is the best character in the game

[tepid holly]

Idk I’m probably gonna skip or just get one copy

[proud atlas]

ah yeah so I should just follow the tier list (ish atleast) to which ones I should ascend?

[shell flume]

is it limited why using destiny scroll

[tepid holly]

Probably it also just depends on luck like you wanna focus wilders and preferably get Trish high up fast but if you don’t get lucky it can take longer making it where you would wanna ascend other strong characters

[proud atlas]

okidoki, tysm

[tepid holly]

Idk I personally don’t like it that way I would much rather them to do normal scrolls then destiny tbh but hey what do I know I’m just a player of the game

[shell flume]

i mean the new hero limited or just normal hero ?

[tepid holly]

Just normal hero she’ll be on wishlist next new 4 faction based hero comes out

[shell flume]

i see

[tepid holly]

Cause Odin was the last released 4 faction based hero and he’s now on wishlist

[lunar cosmos]

What tank do you guys think I should get

[tepid holly]

Mishka Brutus Sonja

Would go with the first two before Sonja

Idk why I put her up there tbh

Oku is good too Sonja is just situational

[lunar cosmos]

Alright thanks I will try and priotise them but at the moment do you think I should use Lucia's so long until I get either of the 3 options you mentioned

[tepid holly]

Yeah he’s okay

[shell flume]

how the red chest work @tepid holly if i choose wilder fraction i can only up wilder SI ?

[tepid holly]

Yes I would save until 300

[shrewd marlin]

what should i do after i a5 a hero? do i still keep them in my wishlist?

[shell flume]

why 300 ?

[keen lily]

How do i transcend jinwoo to 5-star? From 5-star ascended.

[umbral sorrel]

that's how many it takes to get an SI from +20 to +30

[umbral sorrel]

have 25 different 5* heroes and 8 dim spirits and you can make him trans 1*

[keen lily]

Damn

[tepid holly]

It then goes to 25 1 transendent to get T2

[keen lily]

Wait,,…

Really.

[tepid holly]

Yeah…

[keen lily]

Thats obsured

Im about to A5 jinwoo

But looks like ill be playing awhile

A5 != flex then

[tepid holly]

lol yeah I don’t even have a T2 since it’s better to focus on a lot of 5 star characters but I have a few T1

[keen lily]

I see

[tawdry pewter]

What are good heros to go for from the Unlimited Summon Event? The one where you can keep drawing 10 cards and record the one you might want to keep.

This is my best one so far, i think.

[tepid holly]

Show me your box

Where I know what you have and what you need

[tawdry pewter]

On regular AFK i did a lightbearer team so i tried that again on companions but sadly haven't pulled Scarlett yet. I'm willing to try any faction/teams, I just don't know them very well.

[tepid holly]

Wilders are best on companions but I would aim for mortas or twins with like mishka Trish or lyca on it

[tawdry pewter]

I will attempt to make a Wilders team then, thank you for the advice.

[tepid holly]

No problem

[shell nest]

are you infy?

[tepid holly]

No

[shell nest]

oh

[tepid holly]

My name is my name lol

[shell nest]

played classic

[tepid holly]

Also you’ve asked me this

[shell nest]

me stuck🥲

[tepid holly]

Dang

[shell nest]

😫

this game so hard

[tepid holly]

Yeah sometimes

[shell flume]

i see

[shell flume]

no one a0 is it hard playing classic ?

im lazy play classic cant auto battle

[tough solar]

How to get the spirit for sun jin woo

[shell nest]

idk im noob, but yes its overwhelming and same lazy bc no auto battle

I have no motivation pushing classic account im just very very very bored

[shell nest]

Pull on dimensional banner

for dim spirit

[tough solar]

Thank you!

[modern sky]

When do u unlock wishlist in companion mode

[umbral sorrel]

Like 30 summons or something, it’s pretty early

[polar linden]

I got the twins first time 😅 ty

[pseudo elm]

When is arcane labyrinth out anyone know?

[nimble ore]

Unknown

[crystal belfry]

do i still pull on the destiny banner after getting the 4 red chests?

[nimble ore]

Probably not

Idk what your position is though

[crystal belfry]

wym

[nimble ore]

Show your dims + souls

[crystal belfry]

i started from scatch

so i only have sjw and hae in

[nimble ore]

So what do you have now

What star

Or what lv

[crystal belfry]

a5 sjw e+ haein

[crystal belfry]

180

[nimble ore]

And you have the mythic dim gear for both?

[crystal belfry]

nope

[nimble ore]

You said 4? Oh do you mean jinwoos my bad

The chests are given in sets of 2

[crystal belfry]

yea

[nimble ore]

Thought you meant 4 sets of 2

[crystal belfry]

o nah

[nimble ore]

And your rc is what lv

[crystal belfry]

160

[nimble ore]

Yeah you can stop, cha is not worth

Do normal summons

[crystal belfry]

ight thx

[nimble ore]

In the future if you want to lv her you can always pull in a future collab event

[west grove]

How to get this skin

[gleaming bobcat]

not out yet i think, its also a supreme one so its gonna be 400 bucks good luck

[prisma junco]

For expedition is it better to have one super strong team and spread out the rest of your forces, or to have multiple strong team all spread out, but not super strong?

[gloomy heart]

Just read the tierlist and it said that lucius is really bad

Can i replace legendary+lucius with elite sonja for campaign?

My current box

[gleaming bobcat]

u are doing too many legendaries u arent close to ascending any of them to ascended

[gloomy heart]

Yea i noticed that yesterday, i am gathering fodders rn.

Its my 3rd day and i read the guide yesterday

[gleaming bobcat]

like yeah u need to wait until u have 8 copies of the same hero then u ascend them past e+

regarding ur lucius question, yes sonja is a lot better than him

[gloomy heart]

Even though he is legendary+?

[gleaming bobcat]

oh u meant like right now? for campaign hes better atm than ur elite sonja

[gloomy heart]

Gotcha

Im stuck at 13 24 and im just looking for a better team

I can move to #companions-lineup-help if u can help

[gleaming bobcat]

look at formation button bottom right, sometimes u are also just stuck and need to wait

[gloomy heart]

Is it reliable tho? It shows me this for their second teams

[crystal galleon]

When do you unlock wish summon in compagnion server

Wish list*

[gleaming bobcat]

some of them might need a bunch of retries but if u have same heroes u can just copy it normally, maybe need to tweak it a little

[gleaming bobcat]

like 100 summons or smth, it will tell u once u reached a certain amount

[gloomy heart]

Gotcha, appreciate thr help

[gleaming bobcat]

np

[crystal galleon]

Okay ty

[polar linden]

What should I use in arena?

[shell nest]

any guide on that new event

i see people doing millions of dmg to kraken but i end up with 5k dmg🥲

[fleet drum]

Hey i'm still fishing for more spirits but there isn't much time left. I don't know if i should try to up Laios a bit or push Sjw to A3 even if it looks a little rough with less than 2 weeks left 😔

[cedar hare]

yo

what is the priority for upgrading gear

weapon > head > chest > legs?

[gleaming bobcat]

weapon, boots, helmet, chest

if u are talking about tier1 stones

[junior violet]

Okay kind of a dumb question but what version is better for fast, strategy based gameplay? Ts is hard to decide

[gleaming bobcat]

in the combining thingy?

[gleaming bobcat]

companions is more simplified with less heroes, gets super stale in late game, classic has way more shit, means more p2w tho, progress isnt too stale tho even in late game

[junior violet]

Classic it is then

[gleaming bobcat]

classic also has a lot of meta heroes that take ages to build if u arent dumping massive amounts of money, so if pvp is ur focuse u might get outpaced super fast

[shell nest]

yes

[gleaming bobcat]

did u get all rewards?

[shell nest]

no

[shell nest]

cant get 1m+ dmg

[gleaming bobcat]

send a ss i gotta see what u mean otherwise im unsure if i am thinking about the right thing

[shell nest]

btw

in the boss thing

they made us fight against older servers

they have albedo and marcille for bosses

while we dont so can't even compete

this

[gleaming bobcat]

just combine towards the top right then bottom left and u get a bigger box that u can click for resources, then just complete the required items that pop up on the boss

[shell nest]

requires item ?

[gleaming bobcat]

ayy bruv

u have a mini task bar where it shows helmets and armors u gotta make from the combined items

[shell nest]

😭😭😭 i don’t understand im sorry

its so hard for me

[gleaming bobcat]

@shell nest these things, u need to make the right items

[shell nest]

so priority the top right bottom left

then doing tasks

[gentle olive]

bombs and energy potions combinable either btw

[shell nest]

any other tips for this ?

energy?

[gentle olive]

Yeah, you will get it sometimes for tasks

[shell nest]

use bomb directly ? or wait until the end ?

[gentle olive]

combine to max lvl (3) and use

2 purple energy potions = 1 orange = 50 energy

[shell nest]

potion lvl 3 also ?

[gentle olive]

I think you able to get one lvl 3 potion in every try

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah one lv3 per try

[shell nest]

😞

im already losing motivation

[shell nest]

do we only focus big task ?

or all of them starting from the low ones

[gleaming bobcat]

u gotta clear the lower ones to make space for bigger ones

[shell nest]

i dont understand

[gleaming bobcat]

u have to fulfill the lower tasks to make room for more tasks that deal potentially more damage its rly not that hard lol

[shell nest]

english inst main language

[gleaming bobcat]

translate it to your language, i am always typing messages so they can be translated quite well, because i know there a lots of players from around the world

[deft warren]

keep or reroll

[short ginkgo]

Nice 👍

[gleaming bobcat]

reroll, get a celehypo

[ebon valley]

Is this a keep? I’ve seen trishea good but idk if I should keep spinning

[shrewd marlin]

do u have the twins and mortus?

if not try to get one of them instead of orthos

[ashen citrus]

does anyone have data on afk rewards per stage? From which point dust stops increasing?

[short ginkgo]

Dust? Who care about this crap 😁

[scarlet venture]

Which of the two dims should I take for a new account?

[gloomy heart]

How many destiny fragments are required for a unit to jump from A5 to transcendent?

[tepid holly]

Sjw

[tepid holly]

23 for dim uh for normal 20 copies of one unit and then fodder

[gloomy heart]

Dim?

Whats that

O dimensional

Ty

[brazen plover]

for this gamemode should I be leveling up 5 rare heros same as classic?

is there a to do list ?

[nimble sonnet]

I mean I don't see why you shouldn't, the point is to use the L+ heroes to quickly take heroes to ascended when you get copies

or at least mythic

[brazen plover]

i’m confused about what this is saying. Can someone dumb down the resonating crystal part where you can ascend one hero to bring your resonating crystal to the same level

[umbral sorrel]

Level highest ascension hero to next break point i.e 120, 140, 160, etc, swap their position on the resonating crystal with any other hero in reserve, their levels will also swap, then, swap the original (highest ascension hero) back onto the resonating crystal in another position, you can now level them again and have a different hero at the level they were, getting around the ascension level cap, repeat, it is not a shortcut to use less xp/dust it does allow you to level up your heroes overall if you are getting met by maximum level for ascension and cannot level them otherwise

[willow tree]

Hey guys

What shld i take from here

And for the summon what hero shld i change?

[tough solar]

How to get Talene ???

[umbral sorrel]

complete chapter 10-10

[umbral sorrel]

1 skin, 1 cele/hypo, 1 elite

[umbral sorrel]

pinned "guide finder" has a wishlist guide

[shrewd marlin]

is expedtion region based after season 1?

[floral knoll]

Hey started on the newest server whats better to make normal pulls or pull for jinwoo upgrades with diamonds?

[hushed arch]

Are skins worth getting from unlimited summons

[tepid holly]

Not really there just a show off

[terse estuary]

I mean, there’s no point in not grabbing them. Just grab a skin you like + a Cele/Hypo you need or want.

[gleaming bobcat]

very worth, look she’s super pretty

[hushed arch]

Looks cool tbh ye

Thanks for the tip btw I took lucretia

[gleaming bobcat]

i hope u have mortas and twins already, then its alright

[hushed arch]

No twins this is what I have not sure if its good or nah

Started today

[gleaming bobcat]

u should have went for mortas or twins then, o7

[hushed arch]

Ooo

I haven't really summoned with my scrolls yet

I was gonna wait to get wishlist before I start using scrolls

[gleaming bobcat]

u need to pull to unlock the wishlist

[hushed arch]

Ooo wait haahah rlly ??

Lmao this is hilarious

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah u gotta pull a certain amount of times to unlock it

[hushed arch]

Thanks

Are the normal scrolls enough ?

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah u need to draw from normal summon pool, it will tell you when u unlocked iirc, just check regularly after pulling

[trim night]

How are the collab heroes? Are they any good? Who should I lvl up first?

[thorn holly]

If You have enough u could do Both

If you only got enough for 1 a5 do jin

If you wont get him a5 Save for Next round

[vestal briar]

Sorry if repeat question but is stargazer first summon garunteed like in classic?

[umbral sorrel]

yeah first 10 pull iirc

[vestal briar]

Ty bb

[blazing dirge]

I think the game tryna tell me something

[worthy bramble]

What does it do

[worthy bramble]

Tells you that you should quit spending gems

[gleaming bobcat]

whats dat?

@full jay

[terse estuary]

Other filler Ascended pet.

[spice inlet]

For Expedition, if someone with an oath leaves their league to join ours, Do they lose their oath bond ? What else do they lose ? Can they get a oath bond back ?

[gleaming bobcat]

i need to sacrifice a normal pet to ascend dat shit?

[terse estuary]

Yes.

[short ginkgo]

If you leave league younlose your oath

[spice inlet]

Can you get a new Oath ?

[gleaming bobcat]

what da helly

[short ginkgo]

No

[spice inlet]

Ahhh what about extra teams ?

[terse estuary]

Honestly easier to get one filler Ascended than another Mythic of those, in my opinion. 😆

[gleaming bobcat]

2d penalty on mines, 4d penalty on collecting honor ceremony things

[terse estuary]

You keep extra teams.

[gleaming bobcat]

not if I swipe, welp tufty ear goes out the window next time ig

[terse estuary]

[spice inlet]

So if you are in an AFK and bad league, is it worth losing your oath ?

[gleaming bobcat]

yes.

[terse estuary]

Eh…

[spice inlet]

What if they are in a decent league but want to merge and join us ?

Sorry for the questions xD

[gleaming bobcat]

depends

calculate the resource gains and u find out

[terse estuary]

I think it depends. You are losing 5k gems after all without the oath. Depends on if the league you would be joining is strong enough to make up the deficit, in my opinion.

[gleaming bobcat]

joining later is way worse than moving early

[spice inlet]

They are 6th and we are 2nd

[terse estuary]

You’re fiiiiine~ It’s a question channel, after all.

[gleaming bobcat]

it depends on what day u are in expedition

if u start moving after day 15 it might already not be worth it anymore

[spice inlet]

We are in the second layer

Idk what day it is 😭

[gleaming bobcat]

might still be worth then if it guarantees oak or even better the city

[spice inlet]

Fair thank you ❤️

[gleaming bobcat]

np

[tough solar]

Can we evolve talene today ??

[full jay]

a4 pet

(any asc non leaf pulled pet) - like an asc pet-scroll pet

[gleaming bobcat]

scammed, tufty goes flying same for that terrible dinocera one

[full jay]

yea celestwing is expensive

[thorn holly]

Jo iperx i dont wanna bother u but your the best player i know

Wanna build me another comp for the other Forest arena map 😂

[full jay]

[sudden oak]

skin or athalia as a new player

[full jay]

?

[sudden oak]

unlimited inv

[full jay]

you can get 1 skin, 1 hypo/cele, 1 epic (4 faction hero) at once

[thorn holly]

Is that a no 😭

[full jay]

just ask the question in general, "what teams can i build for xyz" and ping me - dont exclude everyone from it and post your inbox again

am kinda pissed and in a bad mood today - like lots of people been bothering me (work stuff) - so nothing against you, just bad mood

[sudden oak]

what would be the best hero i need to get for general pve

in infinite summon

envy or whatever his name is

[full jay]

tierlist/guides and everything are mentioned in pings

go for skin + mortas/twins/talene/lucretia + trishea/mishka and you're good as a new player

[thorn holly]

Well iperx in that case u just relax

[sudden oak]

all that in one summon ?

[full jay]

no its fine i just want the direct input from you and dont want to deal with the comms inbetween

[sudden oak]

isn't envy really good i heard that

[full jay]

well backslash as either this this this or this but yes

[sudden oak]

ok ko

[thorn holly]

The reason im asking you is because i put a Lot of Respect in your Knowledge im thinking that im Great at Building Teams but there will always be u whos just better than me at it

In a way its a compliment 🙂

[full jay]

just do game accelerator for summons 6x

[thorn holly]

Heads up tommorow u csn relax on the Weekend

[sudden oak]

what is that

[full jay]

settings

[full jay]

thanks, yea no thats not the problem afk is relaxing for me, dealing with humans that are unable to give any useful input is the hard part for me

not saying thats the case for you just wasnt in a mood for a "can you do x, y and z for me" - just reminded me a lot with my new workplace - many folks who just say they're not responsible eventho they're in quite high positions

frustrating to deal with big useless children

am autistic in that way that i just want whats necessary and not literally every sugarcoating around it

[sudden oak]

what about wukong ? @full jay

[gleaming bobcat]

he is giga ass, dont tag him mater there are other people who know these things

[sudden oak]

i got lucrecia and trishea do i keep ?

[thorn holly]

Yh i get it bro who would like that Kind of people around them

[gleaming bobcat]

do u have mortas and twins already?

[sudden oak]

no just started like an 1h ago

[gleaming bobcat]

then no, go for either twins or mortas, all other celehypos are useless on one copy, these two I mentioned are great bossing units and work at one copy

[sudden oak]

ok ok ty

[sudden oak]

scarlet + twins is a keeper ?

[spice inlet]

Whats the max level for guilds ?

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah good pull, could keep that if u want but u got 10d left so could just save it and try rolling for skin+twins/mortas+good 4f hero

[gleaming bobcat]

9

[nimble ore]

Pretty sure you are looking at classic tier lists as well. Envy isn't in companions fyi

[native kayak]

Should I fodder Trishea once I have one A5?

[full jay]

never

[native kayak]

Or do people build a Trishea army?

[full jay]

no but there is stuff after a5

[native kayak]

What is T?

[full jay]

goes from a5 up to t5

[native kayak]

In companions?

[full jay]

yep unlocked after 25 a5s

[native kayak]

ok, thank you. I almost ate her.

My Jinwoo is A, and my Hae-in is M, should I keep going on Jinwoo? Also, he is wearing the M gear set

[native kayak]

So transcendent is why they say never fodder Elites.

[hushed veldt]

just asking to make sure but is level 9 the highest a guild can go?

[full jay]

yes

[hushed veldt]

got it thanks

[full jay]

[bold breach]

Guys, I have a question, what should we prioritize diamond on? I know companion is different from classic. Please give advice

[full jay]

dim events > weekly store emblems > nothing

[short ginkgo]

Get next 4 e+ to transcend

[gleaming bobcat]

keep them u can use 4 e+ when u have 25 a5 heroes to transcend them

[half sapphire]

si10/20 . I cant decide T^T

Need it for PVP

Talene, rosa, silas or gwyn?

[full jay]

gwyn > talene

makes most sense for you

tasi would be t he best for pvp tho you prob dont plan on changing mishka with tasi soon since its just a small increase of wilder comp

[half sapphire]

For snowmap still gwyn?

[full jay]

overall, i personally dont like gwyn that much but shes fine in any map for f2p

you just have the problem mira is stronger, aBrutus is stronger and wilder/dims ofc are also stronger

so gwyn comp is "the worst" but its what makes most sense, for account progress

--- if you just want to be slightly better in pvp you make tasi +20 and put her instead of mishka in

[half sapphire]

You're saying tasi is better than mishka in wilder comp?

[full jay]

look at your top 10 - top 30 in arena and figure out yourself

[half sapphire]

They're using mishka

[full jay]

tf in which region are you even s157+ figured that out

[half sapphire]

Few players only using tasi in wilder comp in my server

[wintry panther]

if i was planning on leaving my account for a little while, are there steps i can take to ensure it's not ultra cooked when i get back or is that unavoidable? i gotta ditch the game but i dont really wanna lose the collab units i came for this time around by restarting when i get back

[full jay]

thing because u usally put mishka in wishlist on my f2p f.e. i also have pippa

and prob 90% not knowing that in same lvl pvp reducing enemies atk by 2s, having cheat deaths with her teleports and a lot of cc with banish and ult is more important than mishkas shi.t that gets fully counterd by trishea

[half sapphire]

This dude and his duo

[full jay]

if you leave its pretty much cooked if you were f2p - if you're p2w, you'd still need to level to keep up with servers tempo or cooked - so collecting every 12h is kinda needed

[full jay]

he uses mishka instead of nevanthi which is stupid

neva has good stall healing and cc

i mean works enough as full whale - but if you're lucky and surviving a blast from enemy trish you kinda want to have all healing that you can from neva and solise

[half sapphire]

He's the only kraken in our arena TT

[full jay]

thing is if u notice

pvp is 90% dims vs dims and wilder vs wilder

++ leftover comps being a bit there and doing sometimes something if lucky

and reducing enemies trishea atk by 20% with +20 tasi is a lot

thats all i can say, if you get your wilder to survive, they snowball against everything else, even maulers

so if u dont plan on sniping and want defensive pvp its tasi

if you want overall account progress it gwyn

[half sapphire]

I always sniping but my defense is worse

So maybe I need tasi then🤔

[full jay]

i mean depends right if you get sniped by a celestwing dimensional + wilders guy then there is little you can do as f2p

but against other normal folks tasi will help the most because mishka wont cc enemy trish, mishka will be one/two shot and thats all

[half sapphire]

🫡 I'll do that thanks for the advice

[wintry panther]

daaang okay. what if i just do the collect every 12hr + dailies (maybe miss a day sometimes). is that enough to minimize progress loss

[full jay]

collecting every 12h + taking the free 10 summons every day will minimize losses, so yea if you can do dailies and ignore other stuff

if you just do the minimal - 1 arena battle, 1 normal battle cancel, 1 guild hunt and so on - you should be done in 2-3min

and well collecting every 12h is a thing to do twice a day for 15 seconds

[wintry panther]

igh i wont hard quit then, thanks for the advice o7

[full jay]

its completly fine to hardquit btw. like thats my f2p in 4 months of progress - like yea sucks loosing progress - but as soon new crazy stuff releases that gets to be the priority, then that may completly change the meta and so on

if you're sick and tired of it, take your well deserved break - the game shouldn't be draining on you

[scarlet venture]

Hey guys, quick question. Who should be my first stargaze and what faction should I use ly fac scrolls on?

[full jay]

twins/mortas depending on if you have one of them the other and the other stuff please read the pinned guides and you'll figure it out (tl;dr wilder) - pleasue figure yourself out why

[scarlet venture]

Okay thanks!

Also, for Golden frontier. What kind of opponents will we face there? Is it only our server (1 day old) or (many) other servers as well?

[full jay]

u have a server region- size of region varies based on player activity or something we dont know yet

[lunar cosmos]

Between Lyca and Jinwoo who does more damage at level 120-140?

[full jay]

depends on ascension and equipment?

least specific question tbh. no one will give you an accurate answer on that - most things are tested on lvl 360, usally results are similar at lvl 321+

pre that you're kinda on your own with testing, tho its mostly the same in terms of meta - just that some nieche picks like Brutus, Nara, Athalia and such can shine as one copy wonders

[lunar cosmos]

Alright thanks

[tepid holly]

What would be better on a server without overlord collabs cha or Marci?

[spice inlet]

Is there a guide for Guild Hunting ?

[raw oar]

Who do I max next?

Laios or chae in

[faint zinc]

Anything specific to focus on, in unlimited summons?

[sudden oak]

i have chae lyca mortas tasi and rowan do i change rowan for mishka ?

[bold breach]

[tepid holly]

Mortas and a skin and Trish

[tepid holly]

Change mortas

[tepid holly]

Cha I think

[tepid holly]

I don’t think so

[nimble ore]

Uhhhhhhh marci

[nimble ore]

Ummm Laios probably, where do you plan to use them? Cha is good with Jinwoo sometimes

But honestly she can just be used to drop the buff she doesn't really need to be built out far

[raw oar]

I manly want campaign and arena

[tepid holly]

Cha is good for arena

[nimble ore]

They both can work for both. If you compare both maxed, Laios is better imo, especially with Marci. You can take Cha to mythic si20. Laios is better at a1/a3 SI20 for campaign but needs to be a5 SI20 for pvp for hp

@raw oar

Cha will need to be maxed to kinda hold her own in pvp. She can also work in campaign but she needs jinwoo to operate in all teams

[raw oar]

Cha is the next si20 bc I’ve alr started investing that for the buffs

She’s at 15 but I can just start build laios right after

[nimble ore]

Maybe build whichever of the duo you think you will use more. Jinwoo Cha or Marci Laios

[nimble ore]

Yeah that works. Just stop at 20 for her for now

[raw oar]

Got it ty!

[tepid holly]

Hey what’s life without a little risk other people in my server has maxed Marci

Or maybe I should wait a little longer

[inland patrol]

Is there like a faction priority order? Ik wilder is currently the best all round and I have that for my main team but I’m really hitting a wall and it’s because of my second team. Idk which faction I should be investing in next

[nimble ore]

For 4F it goes kinds like this:

Wilder for aSol and bc they are have the strongest heroes -> Maulers for aBrutus and many consistent heroes -> Graveborn/Lightbearer both kind need more, they have a standout or 2 but not enough.

I may say GB is more versatile but LB do have some good boss dmg

[inland patrol]

alright thank you

For a mauler team who should my fourth and fifth be? Brutus, Crassio, salaki….
skreg, skriath, or numisu?

[nimble ore]

Crassio, Salaki imo but Skriath and Skreg are also pretty used. Numisu is useful sometimes as well.

[nimble ore]

Who are your 5?

The normal wishlist is like: Crassio Salaki Skriath Skregg Numisu or something

I thought

[inland patrol]

This is what I have rn

I’m like a week and a half in

[nimble ore]

@inland patrol

Sorry it's a little blurry it seems

[inland patrol]

Oo alright thank you

No worries it’s clear for me

[nimble ore]

Fantastic!

Oden is not included in this btw... I personally would put him after the first 5 still though

[inland patrol]

Also is there any reason I should have a second copy of sjw or should I just pick cha from the second chest

[nimble ore]

Pick Cha or you wont be able to ever get her

[inland patrol]

Fs. I was just wondering if I would ever need a second copy in the future

[nimble ore]

No you will just end up using it at food

[polar linden]

Should I just save copies atm or keep ascending shemira?

[nimble ore]

Take Shemira up but only use fodder

[hushed veldt]

Does afk arena do server merges?

[uncut ether]

i feel like i’m stuck and don’t know what to do

i run cha, rowan, trishea, talene, mehria

[full jay]

Read the pinned guides, look at the tierlist

[plush cave]

Just got the 30k diamonds, should i go all in on SJw

[nimble ore]

No

[nimble ore]

I used it on normal summons

[hushed veldt]

ah so if a server dies its cooked

[nimble ore]

Yeah that's why regions exist for arena and whatnot

[nimble ore]

Wrong chat

[rustic summit]

Oh

[shrewd marlin]

does gorvo have any real use?

[blazing dirge]

Guy how do you transcend your hero’s?

[shrewd marlin]

maybe he does have a use

[spice inlet]

How does Solise stars work ? I know I need 5 Ascended Wilders to get her but how do I get more stars ?

[full jay]

only if you have khazard

then you can build a perma cc comp with khazard, gorvo, tasi, pippa and +1

[shrewd marlin]

what does cc mean?

[full jay]

needs atleast mythic+30 khazard

crowd control - stuns/sleeps/banish like enemies will not move

[shrewd marlin]

ohh okay

is the +1 just any other hero i want?

[full jay]

mostly a good utility support, was used with saurus* in classic (not released here)

a scaling/heal dps that got stronger over a long battle - so probably some leftover utility/support hero

i've seen like 1-2 people who had khazard at over mythic but not +30

so we have no real tests - but the result should look like this in theorie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-NYxKa_Qk8

(might not actually work since companions is a bit different - but was one really good/cheesy pve comp) very early on

[shrewd marlin]

okay thanks for the help

[strong glen]

Just started what should I be doing?

[deft warren]

should i always use the auto equip for gear or pick which ones give a faction boost to the given faction character

[eternal igloo]

Am I doing good till now?

[strong glen]

How do you retire people?

[full jay]

try to focus more on emblems

in terms of heroes probably yes some not meta decisions but in terms of emblems not so much

[sudden oak]

really ?? i though he was really good

[gleaming bobcat]

rickety cart

[nimble ore]

Good for bossing

[spice inlet]

For the Expedition, For the Level 9 Tree and Level City, when do you get the phase rewards ?
Like is it possible to let 2 groups ge tthe rewards ?

[gleaming bobcat]

no, end of season if u have it, one can take oath one city but only one time rewards

[split echo]

is important sjw SI30? or SI20 enough?

[gleaming bobcat]

si30 is good but not highest prio imo depends on what u have 30 already

[hearty fossil]

Hi guys, just unlocked legacy of grit, i know i must wait untill 2 days left like the guide says, but i was wondering if its just 1 use only, or 1 use every week?

[nimble ore]

Ask in #classic-questions

[gloomy heart]

Just got 2 in one pull. First time this happens. Is it possible to get 3?

[copper night]

I just claimed Cha Hae-In from daily login but she isn't in my heroes tab. Anybody know how to fix this? I've reloaded app 5 times

[shrewd marlin]

its a skin for the shopkeeper in the tavern

[copper night]

Oh...

Is it time limited or permanant?

[shrewd marlin]

time limited

[tribal rivet]

I’m currently at lvl 364 do I use them to push campaign or save them?

[tepid holly]

Only for boss

[nimble ore]

What are you saving for

[tribal rivet]

idk

so should i just use them?

[nimble ore]

That was kinda my thought process

If you dont have a good reason to be saving them just use them

Use a few and then push

And repeat

[tribal rivet]

alright thanks

[charred hemlock]

Hi! Does anybody know what happens if you change server in Companions? Can you port your heroes there or do you need to start a brand new account?

[tribal rivet]

new account

[nimble ore]

You could have an account on every single server if you want

Each one will be separate

[charred hemlock]

Thank you! 🙏🏻 I only started in companions when SJW and Cha collab started. But I saw in other comments that heroes come out at different times on different servers or is it not true? I missed Marcille and other dimensionals. If I start on a new server I will not get them anymore, right?

[charred hemlock]

Got it! Thank you so much! 💝

[nimble ore]

The comments you are probably referring to are comparing the classic server and the companions server.

We in companions typically get our heroes from classic. Rarely we with both get the same new hero (take Mira for example), but typically we follow behind the old classic release schedule. Kinda

Yes in companions we can only get dimensionals if we are around during that specific event.

[charred hemlock]

Ok. Now I get it. This makes sense. Thank you so much again. 💝

[nimble ore]

Happy to help

[molten carbon]

Hey guys, im kinds confused for what to get from the unlimited summons, ppl say mortas/twins or talene if I got both, but I'm getting 1 talene at stage 10, should I get her instead since I'll be able to upgrade her, or the other 2 r just that good that it doesnt matter much?

[thorn holly]

Talene works Fine at One copy

As do Mortas and Twins but u dont get those as Easily as talene

So your goal is to get a copy each as fast as possible

[molten carbon]

Oh good to know, thx for the advice

Which is better tho 😅, mortas or twins as a beginner

Mortas's skills sounds op tho

[thorn holly]

U will Need Both and if you get one on monday and the other on wednesday really doesnt matter

This Games is a Marathon kinda Game those decisions really dont matter in the Long run

[molten carbon]

alright cool, thx alot!

[spice inlet]

Sorry I didnt understand this

[chilly falcon]

next +10 and +20? (my next +30 will be trishea)

[gentle olive]

who should I stargaze at this point? Or just saving up and waiting strong celehypo?

[lapis harness]

does expeditions actually simulate the fights or is it just all dependant on power?

[nocturne fox]

Who should i be ascending here?

[shrewd marlin]

no one

save up till u have 8 copies of one hero before u think of ascending

[nocturne fox]

Oh

Okay

[fleet drum]

Hewwo who should i si30? I'm thinking marcille 😔

[fleet drum]

Marcille or mira to si20

[gleaming bobcat]

i said NO, ONE league can get the rewards at the END of the season

[spice inlet]

I see

Thank you

[gleaming bobcat]

lyca

[fossil monolith]

what should I aim for from unlimited summons?

[full jay]

probably lucretia, good carry for newer servers - otherwise wait

[polar linden]

How to get past this stage? My teammate basically only has wilders

[tall wasp]

Try mishka talene. Front line.

[lucid imp]

hello, what team should i use for campaign and for what should i use my diamonds?

[gleaming bobcat]

next time please ask this in the #companions-lineup-help channel

[gleaming bobcat]

mishka talene front line, trish back middle and use tasi instead of shemira

[spice inlet]

How many copies of Talene does it take to get ascended ?

I want to buy all 3 phases of Obsidian Flinch but I dont know how many stars I get with 12 copies

[terse estuary]

13 for Ascended, 23 for 5 star.

[short ginkgo]

Where is best place to get last one drink?

[dreamy hill]

Who should I SI10, SI20 snd SI30 next? I can do one of each

[gleaming bobcat]

si10/20 mira, si30 solise

[dreamy hill]

Thanks ❤️

[gleaming bobcat]

i think the 4th one is rly good for it

[dreamy hill]

I was also thinking of SI20 aBrutus, since I play Jinwoo with him and ity works pretty well

U think it might be a good idea after Mira?

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah could do that hes is decent with si20 and stronger than most other heroes for a while cos hes awakened

@full jay si10/20 (i wanna do mira but shes so ass at m+)

dont say pippa again i wont do her now i was thinking sonja si20 and salaki 10?

[full jay]

would say salaki 10 for sure that was the first thing i was thinking off

[gleaming bobcat]

just do him 20 as well or is sonja fine?

[full jay]

prob sonja or tasi for 20, maybe later crassio

[gleaming bobcat]

ik crassio is good but he is only a1 and i got no copies

im doing sonja i like her

[full jay]

might be also a numiso 10 for gwyneth but estrilda only a2 and i see no hendrik if im not blind

might also be a +10 brutus for 1s bonus

i like pippa 20 a lot

but mainly pve stuff for campaign

thats all im thinking bout

[gleaming bobcat]

did salaki 10 and sonja 20

and no i dont have hendrik

i borrow him from yuki

will do numisu next to 10 i think and tasi 20

[umbral timber]

Should I try for these last 9 days of the dim event to get SJW ascended OR should I start on the other 2

[thorn holly]

Sjw

[umbral timber]

Bet

I appreciate that too

[fleet drum]

Idek girl looks like she fell off a bit and marcille is a better character overall 😔 both si30 look good for pvp tho

[gleaming bobcat]

lyca.

[gleaming bobcat]

what is starting the other 2 gonna do lol

then they are all equally shit or what?

[umbral timber]

I’ll eventually need them ascended

Weather that’s this dim event or next

[gleaming bobcat]

do jin woo, dont start the rest its useless half ascending them

[fleet drum]

Is sailus here i'd rather ask him to be sure 🤔

[gleaming bobcat]

lyca.

she is way more versatile mate

good for bosses, pvp and campaign and combinable with everything

not even i have her si30 i did lyca first

[fleet drum]

yah because marcille ain't good for neither of those formats

If not better

[thorn holly]

Im sailus Whats your question

[fleet drum]

HAHAHAHA

[thorn holly]

Lyca or talene

[fleet drum]

Yeah i thought about talene too

But by the time she'll have 5 stars i'll be dead

[thorn holly]

Its really not that big of a difference for Both

I have Both f2p si30 and i did lyca First

Shes good but id lie if i Said i felt any difference

[fleet drum]

But tbf i care more about pvp 🤔

That's why i'm indecisive

[thorn holly]

It almost seems like you have an answer in Your Head

Just build any1 it really doesnt matter

[fleet drum]

Aaaa this game is annoying there's too many candidates

[gleaming bobcat]

lyca

[fleet drum]

[gleaming bobcat]

[fleet drum]

[gilded comet]

is Jinwoo A5 good or i let it A3 and start chae ?

[gleaming bobcat]

are u spending a shit ton of money so u get cha a5 in 10d? if the answer is no just a5 sjw

[pine parcel]

Who should I SI30 next? Thinking about Lyca or Marcille.

[terse estuary]

A5 is crit rate and damage per level up, right? Think that’s pretty solid.

[short ginkgo]

Thanks ❤️

[thorn holly]

My mauler Teams Never Seem to work anywhere but for any1 Else it does any ideas why

Im using si30 abrutus from my mates

[gleaming bobcat]

salaki, abrutus, crassio, skreg and kren

[thorn holly]

I dont need a comp

[gleaming bobcat]

ur crassio needs si20

they are just underleveled in terms of SI

[thorn holly]

I literally used exactly that comp u Said in campaign just now and it just doesnt work

For everyone Else it did

[thorn holly]

Ik that who do you think needs the Most love here

[gleaming bobcat]

might just use a bunch of retries

and if it doesn’t work its an item issue

[thorn holly]

Oh and how important is the fat lizard

[gleaming bobcat]

lizard?

[thorn holly]

that pet

I only have that Ball properly build

[gleaming bobcat]

very, cos if u use a dive comp the damage gets boosted a shit ton

[thorn holly]

Does that Change anything

[gleaming bobcat]

u can try the dragon as well, good combo with salaki cos they get tankier if they are low

[gleaming bobcat]

yep it does, the orb doesn’t do a lot for ur

[thorn holly]

I only have that Ball build Sadly

[gleaming bobcat]

then try swapping in 2 heroes of a different faction that are on a good level to make up for it

[thorn holly]

Ja ich Probier halt immer diesen richtig starken Ball mit ner 4 Star lizard zu kombinieren aber krieg nur Müll raus

[gleaming bobcat]

ja is halt trash das pet system

aber pet is wichtig für die mauler

[thorn holly]

Ich Probier das seit mindestens 3 Monaten dieses scheis Ding gut zu bekommen

Look at this

Those Stats on the lizard would be Great

[gleaming bobcat]

mythic already has the ability maybe try it anyways

[gleaming bobcat]

i hate all orbs with a passion (except for grassy that one is alright lol)

[thorn holly]

Hat First try geklappt hahahaha

Thanks

[gleaming bobcat]

mit dem fetten dude?

[thorn holly]

Yh

[nimble ore]

I would recommend Crassio, Skraith SI20. Having Salaki and Kren not a5 is hurting you. Plus make sure your fat dragon is decent

Or lizard can kinda work

Sorry didn't read everything if yall already came to another conclusion

[thorn holly]

Well skriath si20 seems Like Waste of Items

Crassio i guess could be good and the other two im really not sure

[nimble ore]

Boulder blast is kinda underwhelming yeah but more useful then say Numisu. If you are lacking dmg it helps

Then again you'll probably be using aBrutus/Jinwoo/Kren so you'll probably not use Skriath at all.

Crassio SI30 technically boosts his dmg alot but that's quite alot of investment. But 240 extra golds isn't that bad

[thorn holly]

Good to know thanks

[charred hemlock]

Hi! Are there any suggestions who to focus on in Unlimited Summons? I only saw a guide for the classic server, not for companions.

[faint zinc]

A skin and mortas

Mainly

[charred hemlock]

Thank you so much!

[faint zinc]

Ur Welcome

[charred hemlock]

What about Celestial Twins?

[faint zinc]

It's not a thing, mortas boost your overall dmg by twice the amount in dream realm mode

Which is your main source of income (scrolls) for early game

[charred hemlock]

Ok, got it. Thank you 🙏🏻

[faint zinc]

No problems

[brave minnow]

GREZ signature item recommendation anybody know?

[spice inlet]

For the Oath Bond, Occupy the Gilded City and Gold Oak, does that also only get rewarded at the end of the event or when you first occupy it ?

[nimble ore]

You need to hold it at the end of the event

[spice inlet]

I see thank you ❤️

[short ginkgo]

Get it there. Sincerely thank you

[tribal rivet]

is there a strategy to earn more contributions in expedition?

[short ginkgo]

Fight every battle?

[tribal rivet]

i join rallies everyday, and separate my teams to two when attacking

im rn at rank 59

i have 5 team

[fleet drum]

Pippa

Suggesting investment in tasi is crazy

[gleaming bobcat]

noice

[gleaming bobcat]

pippa is good for campaign same for tasi debuff thats why

[fleet drum]

Tasi's SI is so ass i wouldn't go past 0

Same for pippa

[tall wasp]

I have tasi +30 -.-

[fleet drum]

Ah

[tall wasp]

I use wilders in arena without solise. Works well and very consistent

[full jay]

how is pippas 5s dmg immunity atm ass?

[short ginkgo]

Currently I have 565k contribution with 3 teams

[fleet drum]

She is too niche to be worth that much investment, she'll probably die before even being able to cast that stuff

[full jay]

tbf i get what you mean - but to push high diff in campaign you need cheeses and 5pull + invincibility is atm such a comp that does well in 110+ diff

[fleet drum]

Campaign feels like a joke tbh 😔 i'd rather focus on other formats that aren't as bad

[full jay]

if you're not intrested in campaign pippas not it - but pippa is crazy good in campaign if you use the kit right

and no the 5s invincibility is not a die pre cast its instant.

[tribal rivet]

how? any tricks?

[short ginkgo]

I just attack every day 😉

[full jay]

ok then what else do you focus on on dreams free top 10?

on guild hunt or is it arena? i don't really get that - if crown has already everything what he needs then go on but for pvp tasi > mishka any day

[tribal rivet]

thats what i did😭

[short ginkgo]

We fight a lot with strong oponents so maybe that's why

[short ginkgo]

Our top 😉

[gleaming bobcat]

we beating that any day

[fleet drum]

I tried to read more about it, it looks so specific 😭 not including the chances of failing i know it gets better but it's so wacky, there are far better characters to invest in imo

[gleaming bobcat]

show whole server

[gleaming bobcat]

same idea

[full jay]

def but crown has most heroes already build and said he doesnt want to go for his a1 crassio f.e. yet

[short ginkgo]

This?

[gleaming bobcat]

i will get emblems anyway and doing a hero that i have leveled higher, than someone where im missing copies, is worth way more

[blazing dirge]

Hey guys how do you transcend an acended ?

[full jay]

ye

[tribal rivet]

😔

[gleaming bobcat]

yeah except for the koran mega kraken ur region is so much weaker lol

[blazing dirge]

How do I get this?

[gleaming bobcat]

i would be 4th there wtf

[short ginkgo]

I play on old server 😉😎

[fleet drum]

I was thinking more like abex pvp 😭 guild hunt is whatever
Okay saying tasi is better than Mishka is crazy 😭

[full jay]

there is no abex

[tribal rivet]

I just started playing for few months

[gleaming bobcat]

tasi is way better than mishka lol

[full jay]

abex s3 hasnt happend for s80+

since expedition became the main mode

[gleaming bobcat]

pay a lot of money

[tribal rivet]

The warzone is around server 120-140 i think

[fleet drum]

Ah right i forgot about them not caring enough to do another abex 😔 but tbh i hate that event so that's kinda better

[gleaming bobcat]

abex>golden frontier

[fleet drum]

it isn't april fool's day

[full jay]

explain how is that crazy

our pvp is trisheas oneshotting each other who are cc immune, mishka does nothing - while tasi debuffs enemey trisheas atk by 20%

idk if you're from classic or what not - but we do not have relics and our pvp works differently from there - to adept to those differences will take a while - you cannot take you classic knowledge and use it 1 to 1 onto companions

[tribal rivet]

So is it better to separate ur teams to different targets?

Does that earn more contribution?

[full jay]

we have another pvp system with surviving leftover units and not skipping battle rounds

and nevanthi, aSolise, tasi are way more survivable than a mishak is

lyca is needed as utility support and trishea is the main carry

thats the meta and w.e. you say wont change these hard facts

[tribal rivet]

Ik that gets more medal, but I need more contribution

[fleet drum]

I am not playing classic 😭 every pvp is the same, Trish is crushing everything and there's isn't much you can do about it. Her attack rating scales insanely well and crazy anyway i don't think tasi is like much of a contribution, PvP being rng af either way 😭 Mishka at least has cc, heals and does a good chunk of damage

[gleaming bobcat]

u are underestimating how absolutely annoying she is with her tp and the stun on enemies where as mishka sometimes just dies

[fleet drum]

The true Trish counter is Trish herself

Even Mishka is meh at it because she's just that dumb

You just have to hope you ult first and pray the rng gods

Because wym i lose to random si20 trisheas 😭

[fleet drum]

Yeah i know, just like idk i'd save up for better future releases

[gleaming bobcat]

so im just gonna save for eternity cos everything will get power crept at some point?

[fleet drum]

Yes because this is how the game works.

But anyway, you can invest in whoever you want. I'm just referring to sailus's trusty tier list and just knowledge that i have tasi is good in PvP but there isn't a slot for her in a Wilder team

I know it's extremely boring and repetitive of a format but that's how it is 🫠

[short ginkgo]

No?

[fleet drum]

Yes?

[short ginkgo]

Trish,asolise,Lyca,mishka tasi what I use

[fleet drum]

Taxi 😭😭

🚕

Nevanthi over taxi any day her synergy with asolise is too good to give up on her, even more at A5, same for Mishka with her summons

But once again even asolise explodes against trishea

[short ginkgo]

My Trisha & asolise solo almost everyone in pvp

[fleet drum]

It's why every season the top30 looks different

Especially top10 😭

[short ginkgo]

Our top 10 looks same from months 🤣

[fleet drum]

Mine changes each week lmao 😭

Or so

Even the whales struggle to keep their spots

[short ginkgo]

2 server fight each other 🤣

[fleet drum]

I miss when we didn't need 12 teams and weren't merged with other servers 😔

It's just even more chaotic than it used to be

[short ginkgo]

No bigger change for us from them

[fleet drum]

Really? Which server are you from 😭

Other servers must really suck

[short ginkgo]

But yeah younger server have bigger server fight them us

[short ginkgo]

S6 and we only fight vs s5

[fleet drum]

I'm so tired of the last 5 second snipes and i don't stay up that late anyway so i give up LMAO if i'm top50-60 i'm happy

[fleet drum]

Damn that's old

[short ginkgo]

Yeah first server after official release

[fleet drum]

😭😭😭 your server must be even more dead than mine

[short ginkgo]

Basically our guild is unbeatable on server , like 5x stronger that second

[fleet drum]

Yee same

[short ginkgo]

Top 30 players who still play

[fleet drum]

Y'all must be like at best 60 people playing pvp 😭😭

Including other servers

At least you're automatically top 100

[short ginkgo]

Around 100 ppl on both

Our guild vs guild from S5 basically 😎

[gleaming bobcat]

guys swap chat pls

[short ginkgo]

👍 just saw we on wrong one,sorry

[gleaming bobcat]

its okay i sometimes lose myself in the convoy as well

[fleet drum]

why you trying to be cute then

[gleaming bobcat]

wym cute

[thorn holly]

crown pass auf vor rote haare blaue haare hier

[full jay]

mishka is giga useless tho

specially if ur server has marcielle, ur just making urself even more vulnerable to other bs

[gleaming bobcat]

lol

[thick geyser]

Is p2w worth it on new servers or nah

[carmine ice]

Will there ever be awakened graveborn heros. I am on a newer but not new server, and have only the options for wilder mauler and celestial awakening. I've been in for a little over 2 months, which is supposedly the schedule that lillith uses but nothing.

[full jay]

idk - what do you mean by worth it?

its spending your money, you need to know on what type of games and how much of it you're willing to spent.

worth in % evaluated by the playerbase is ~2000% == good value

[thick geyser]

Like for jinwoo, do i splash cash to get stars on him for ascension? Or do events come around again where i can collect dimensional spirits

[full jay]

everything below that is less efficient and gets pretty fast worse

1% = 1 diamond / $
2000$ = 2000 diamond / $

[short ginkgo]

With temp they release wokes, be t be in 6 months 🤣🤣

[full jay]

dim events is every 3 months

[thick geyser]

Gotcha, so nows the time to invest then

[full jay]

companions is like 10 months old and has 3 wokes by now

[thick geyser]

I only started playing afk arena first time ever the other day, just trying to figure out how to play efficiently, currently f2p top 150 in my new server which is nice to see

[full jay]

wokes do not have all abilities yet and are kept back in terms of power

[thorn holly]

By abilities u mean Divines?

[wintry panther]

when combining up fodder, i should funnel all of them into one unit i have the most copies of right? like if out of lightbearers i have the most copies of mirael, i spam copies of her instead of hogan?

[thick geyser]

Just wondering if its worth to start on a new servers tomorrow and splash some cash

[full jay]

thats a nice start for the first run, after 2-3 weeks you kinda get to know stuff better

[full jay]

probably yes - a5 jinwoo should be enough to do ya lots of favours

[thick geyser]

£180 to probs get him to 5 stars, but would probably beast alot for me

[full jay]

but if you want to whale you kinda want to unlock aSolise and aBrutus fast, build a trishea comp, a jinwoo comp and one aSolise comp so you can beat 3 squad fights and end up at lvl 260-280+ very fast

[full jay]

kinda you can spent the diamonds you get from pushing stages to funnel him

[thick geyser]

I wonder how much thatll end up costing haha

[full jay]

like 200-400$ish is usally a good dolphin-whale haul

[thick geyser]

Bet ill aim for that, if you dont mind me asking, what should i buy then?

[full jay]

there are krakens that do plenty more but do not concern yourself with that

[thick geyser]

Yeah i just want to be at a decent doninate stage

Dont want to go overboard on spending

[full jay]

https://onedrive.live.com/:x:/g/personal/427B2828109CC35C/EfoJZd19w7hJvePuPgYBp4QBcywYLOKGM8aAAMD7EeKLMQ?resid=427B2828109CC35C!sdd6509fac37d49b8bde3ee3e0601a784&ithint=file%2Cxlsx&e=QcqXeE&migratedtospo=true&redeem=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3gvYy80MjdiMjgyODEwOWNjMzVjL0Vmb0paZDE5dzdoSnZlUHVQZ1lCcDRRQmN5d1lMT0tHTThhQUFNRDdFZUtMTVE_ZT1RY3FYZUU you can look at that

(bundles calc)

[thick geyser]

Youre a legend mate thank you

[full jay]

usally beginner mishka bundle is really good - but if you only want to do your pokets a favour its only the dim event deals

low spender is like both monthly cards and seasonpass (~40$)

[thick geyser]

Ill probably factor that in aswell, just want to keep it at max 500 nothing more on this game but be invested for a while

[fleet drum]

It's like. Trying to sound slick

[fleet drum]

Yeah right
Since marcille also counters asolise she's also useless with that logic

[full jay]

not sure wdym but with enough cda and basepower she literally oneshots, can be positioned in corner and kinda swipes - but you do you - i may know much less about the game then you and just have to learn the hard way.

[fleet drum]

Marcille typically is great against summons which asolise and mishka both have
Marcille is strong i agree but she also gets wipped by Trish + asolise comps

[full jay]

idk what we're talking about but if its not frost or gladiator - marci wins

i would've loved you to show data on that but my history is unfortunatly full of 5 team defenses since my team 1 is too big.

marci does 40-60m in the time trishea does 20-30m

[gleaming bobcat]

how am i trying to sound slick

[gleaming bobcat]

marcille wins on snow map against wilders, like mega hard

[full jay]

didnt knew that lol thought bc of trish cast she wins

with arthur as boost?

[fleet drum]

Eh, as said earlier it's like random with the rng factor of pvp sprinkled in, they can kinda both wipe each other out but i'd say Trish comps have the upper hand. You'd need a massive amount of data/tries and even then it's a little janky since it's random

[fleet drum]

U told us to move to another chat but said you do the same and get carried away

It's the same three people talking anyway it's not that big of a deal

[hallow tapir]

what's the SI30 prio after Solise?

[terse estuary]

Trish, Lyca, Talene (if A5), ABrutus, maybe SJW and Marcelle. Those are the big ones, in my opinion.

[hallow tapir]

Thanks, I think I will go with Trish.

[wide socket]

who should i set for my stargaze summons? this is my current roster

[cosmic burrow]

Before you think about it, you should look at the pins here or guides how to ascending heroes properly

[split echo]

i have trishea and asolise 30

[nimble ore]

We don't know exactly how Contribution works, I think it has to do with everything you do in expedition basically. That includes looting shells and whatnot

[short ginkgo]

• pushing Desmond gate give points into it

[vast urchin]

Hello should i feed my rosaline L+ to rowan to make him M+

[short ginkgo]

Never

Feed heroes 😉

[vast urchin]

This also apply to feeding mishka L+ to gorvo M+?

[lapis harness]

how much does chance-up summons increase chance by? anyone know?

[nimble ore]

Big no no

I would be okay with you feeding Gorvo to Mishka but not the other way around

[nimble ore]

I don't know what you are talking about. Can you reword that?

[dry silo]

when do i unlock wishlist

[vast urchin]

Alrr

[nimble ore]

Pull 60 times in normal summon iirc

[lapis harness]

referring to this, I got no clue what it means

[dry silo]

okay cool ty ❤️

[nimble ore]

Never pull for a 4f hero using destiny scrolls unless it is Trishea

I would recommend ignoring that summon

[vast urchin]

What fodder should i use to make rowan M+?

[nimble ore]

She will join the hero pool in like 25 days, just wait

[nimble ore]

Try not to take heroes past E+ until you have enough fodder to take them to A0/1

[lapis harness]

ah okay sick good to know, but about the chance up summons, do I have increased chance to pull the hero until I pull them 14 times?

[vast urchin]

Btw is it fine to always pull on dimensional spirit?

[nimble ore]

You may get enough copies of the hero you want to take up to A but then not have the fodder to do so.

[nimble ore]

No it just means you can only pull them 14 times total

It is deceiving

[lapis harness]

Ah, weird way to word it

Thank you

[nimble ore]

The percentage is given if you press "card pool details"

[vast urchin]

Can i ask whats the difference between like saving up enough to A and evolving on the go?

[nimble ore]

@vast urchin This

That happens when you just use fodder whenever

and don't save it.

[vast urchin]

Ahh i see

[nimble ore]

In early/mid game you will run out

[vast urchin]

Kinda prolly have done that😭

[nimble ore]

Yes most definitely. That will slow down your progress but it's not that bad

[vast urchin]

Kinda have 1 A 1 M+ 2 M 14 L

How do i know if im in mid game alr?

[nimble ore]

Yes but I would say you should have some amount of scrolls and diamonds saved... Brand new players probably shouldn't spend resources on dim event at this point, just grab the heroes and wait for next event...

Unless you are planning on spending ~$150-200

[vast urchin]

Should i make sung and cha to A?

[nimble ore]

Can you?

I would say only take Sung

[vast urchin]

Nah im a f2p

[nimble ore]

and take him as far as possible, he needs a5 imo

[vast urchin]

Icic

[nimble ore]

but a3 will work

[nimble ore]

how many dim souls do you have?

[vast urchin]

None rn

[nimble ore]

what are your scrolls and diamonds at

[vast urchin]

908 diamonds and 0 destiny scrolls

Oh nvm

[nimble ore]

don't pull for dims this event

[vast urchin]

6 destiny scrolls

But isnt the dim event like going away forever orr

[nimble ore]

You need to save ~150,000-200,000 diamonds / 650-700 scrolls to get one a5 normally.

[vast urchin]

WOAH

For f2p?

[nimble ore]

Just take the free copies of jinwoo and cha and then use your diamonds on normal summons until you get aSol at least. Honestly you should also pull until aBrut but that's alot

[nimble ore]

That is the cost for to take up one dim for anyone

[short ginkgo]

What? Where you get this crazy numbers?

[nimble ore]

wdym? 700 pulls is close to avg for 24 souls

[vast urchin]

Idk i just dont or acc cant rlly pay for anything online

[nimble ore]

Am I crazy and its 550?

[nimble ore]

It's like 2 months of saving if you are like top 25 in your server

feasible for active f2p

dim events are every 3ish months

I save for 1.5 months, spend diamonds on other things mostly the other 1.5 months

[short ginkgo]

I use 440 + 30k diamond and get a5

[vast urchin]

Damn i did not know how long term this game is

[nimble ore]

yo my bad I was thinking from some bad averages from this event

[vast urchin]

I think im at least top 200?

[nimble ore]

I just ran a sim

It is 550ish

[vast urchin]

Its fine

[nimble ore]

so let's be generous and say 150,000 flat

[vast urchin]

Why the spikes at those other 2?

[nimble ore]

I had good luck this dim event but alot of people had bad.

The other spikes are the other highest probability, so think lucky and unlucky

[vast urchin]

Ohhh icic

[nimble ore]

Yeah that makes sense, right in the avg zone

[vast urchin]

Prolly 75000 diam + 225 scrolls?

[nimble ore]

540 pulls

[vast urchin]

Man i havent reached 500 pulls yet😭

[nimble ore]

475 pulls

avg 18 souls, need 23 for a5

[vast urchin]

I have sung on A alr

Do i still save?

[nimble ore]

Oh

I didn't know that

you will need 6 more souls for a3 which is the min imo

[vast urchin]

Cha is L i believe

[vast urchin]

Yeah

[nimble ore]

you need 36k diamonds or 120 pulls or a mix of that

[vast urchin]

Doable in 8 days?

[nimble ore]

in 10 days as a new account that may be possible but not sure

for me, no

[vast urchin]

What is defined as early game and mid game?

[nimble ore]

can you push alot of stages and do alot of extra side content?

or like what is your current progress, show me

send your box and your campaign stage

[vast urchin]

How do i show my current progress

Box?

[nimble ore]

send 1 screenshot of your heroes

the "box"

[vast urchin]

Ohhh

[nimble ore]

and just tell me which stage you are on

for both forked fate and campaign