companions-questions

[cloud sky]

any suggestion on who to put instead of marcille?

[tiny saffron]

are those all your heroes? just experiment, you need to pull more. And make sure to have a duo and join top guild

[cloud sky]

yeah i should join a better guild

[tiny saffron]

and swap marcille mishka level

[rapid geyser]

When does t1 stones drop in campaign?

[tiny saffron]

they dont

[rapid geyser]

Wow

[cloud sky]

also i do have more heroes, just dont know whats worth levelling

[rapid geyser]

So its only from guild shop

[tiny saffron]

get duo asap

[tiny saffron]

yes and events

[cloud sky]

how to get duo? and whats duo's benefit?

[rapid geyser]

Thats way too slow holy

By this time how do even get to t4 gear

[tiny saffron]

you can use their heroes. Thats the main thing about this game version, coop

[tiny saffron]

well its not rly much concern since it applies to everyone

[rapid geyser]

Ye that's true

Whats max stars available for hero?

I see this one is on 7*

[honest bear]

10*

[rapid geyser]

Damn

[honest bear]

you can see it in gallery 👍

[rapid geyser]

Transendence unlocks on 20/25 5* heroes

[honest bear]

25 5*

[rapid geyser]

Ye like afk journey

[honest bear]

[rapid geyser]

Will check it out

Maybe I don't see it yet cuase I don't have transendence unlocked

For me max is 5* in gallery

For now

[honest bear]

Strange, it shows in mine:

[rapid geyser]

You have unlocked transendence on your account?

[honest bear]

I haven't unlocked it either, I need 1 more.

[rapid geyser]

Maybe thats why cuase you are close

I have only 3-4 heroes on 5*

[honest bear]

Maybe, but a bit strange they would do it like that.

You're probably right. Not sure what else would explain it.

[rapid geyser]

On afk journey you don't see it unless you unlock it first

Maybe its same concept

[honest bear]

You're probably right.

[rapid geyser]

[median basalt]

how much should i ascend the new character minimum cause i am f2p?

[unreal plank]

?

[tiny saffron]

stats bro

and divinity from stars

[knotty chasm]

Is marcille any good?

[cloud sky]

is there a cooldown after i leave a aguild?

[knotty chasm]

or would you need to run her with laios or whtv his name is

[knotty chasm]

1 hour

[tiny saffron]

thats right

[knotty chasm]

poop thinking of whether to save these dim spirits for someone more exciting

[tiny saffron]

it all depends on your progress, current heroes, how much saved etc.

[tiny saffron]

they are okay, not game breaking

[knotty chasm]

they seem like a tier heros

i wouldnt put them on the same level as shalltear or asolise

[tiny saffron]

indeed, overhyped i'd say

[split echo]

I have 17 spirit souls rn, what route should I follow, I dont have any other collab heroes except dungeon meshi

[median basalt]

And i got 9 more dim ascending heros and i got only 12k gems now as i spend all scrolls and gems pulling on them

[rotund wadi]

Should i go for mythic+ shemira or mythic mira?

[tiny saffron]

it really was a bad idea to use diamonds on the dims instead of normal summons that early, but as youve already built it might as well continue to 5 star, and mythic laios atleast they said

[median basalt]

Everyone told to save up for this so i did and spent everything xd and thanks^

[unreal plank]

Is she meta or not?

[unreal plank]

It's so difficult to start properly for total beginners. There is a big shortage in guides.

[weary pumice]

go to pinned comments

[unreal plank]

she is not in tier list at all

[dim lance]

What do I do with these extra copies now that I have maxed them? (Eironn and lyca)

[unreal plank]

mb use them as a fooder?

[thorn holly]

Keep them for transzendence

[dim lance]

What are the conditions to unlock it?

[silver saffron]

Started on Friday and im chap. 10 right now and got Mishka + Isabella L+, rest Elite+. Is that good progress, or should I be more advanced? Just wanna make sure im not missing anything important. Rn im just waiting to get dust for more lvls.

[honest valley]

Don’t ascend heroes beyond E+ until you have enough copies of them to get Ascended (white border). You’ll just end up getting stuck with no fodder and no ascended heroes. You need the base E+ copy and then 3 spares to get white border.

There isn’t really a timeline to gauge how well you’re doing.

Ascend the fodder heroes (they start as blue border) to L+ to use them as food for your heroes. You’ll need two E+ fodder heroes alongside the 3 specific hero copies to get to the white border. From there they only require an E+ copy to get stars.

[unreal plank]

When should we upgrade armor on heroes?

And whom give emblem?

[opaque cargo]

would it be worth rushing a +30 albedo item?

[burnt moss]

Depends if you have 2 other dimensionals built to take advantage of it

The +30 is a support ability that requires character to support

[honest valley]

I upgrade the gear that is on my most used heroes, preferably Mythic gear but Legendary weapon/helmet are ok to level.

Emblems is difficult to say. It depends a lot on who you have built. ASolise is the best first SI30 if you have her because it gives her a cheat death.

[unreal plank]

Where I can get ASolise?

[honest valley]

You need 5 ascended (white border) Wilder heroes

[unreal plank]

how does it work? 5 ascended heroes unlock new one hero?

Why I can't look at Solise without 5 asc heroes?

[honest valley]

If you go to Heroes then portraits you can filter by wilder and see her there. When you get 5 ascended wilders a new building will open in the town area called the Library.

Right now you can get ASolise and ATalene from there, but Talene is a whale character since 5 ascended Cele heroes is extremely long on F2P

[unreal plank]

?

[honest valley]

Are you on a newer server? There might be a time gate for those

[unreal plank]

yeah

[unreal plank]

what other heroes will be opened?

[honest valley]

That’s probably why, I’m not sure when she unlocks

These are the two awakened heroes that are out right now

[unreal plank]

thank you very much

[dim lance]

How do you get talene again?

[honest valley]

You’re welcome :)

[honest valley]

5 ascended Cele heroes

[burnt moss]

And we get ABrutus by spamming #companions-suggestions for 10,000 years and crying when we still don't have him

[hearty rain]

Anyone obvious I should be building rn?

Plenty of fodder

[burnt moss]

Who do you have 8 copies of

Currently it looks like the only ones you can ascend are Lyca and Rowan

Definitely wasn't a great move to get grezhul and Daimon to L+ considering you're missing copies and shemira is now more likely to have 8 copies first

For graveborns you will have to wait until you either get 6 more copies of Daimon or enough fodder to ascend shemira

Trust me when I say that the amount of fodder you have is a lot less than you think it is. The first ascended is easy to get fodder for. You'll be waiting longer for the 2nd and even longer on the 3rd

You don't even have enough fodder to ascend your L+ graveborns even if you did have the dupes

[hearty rain]

So for here wait for 6 more daimons?

[burnt moss]

Either that or if you get the fodder to ascend an e+ then see if it can be Shemira or Mira

Silas is also a good character but you really do want a carry for faction tower

I did Silas ascended first and kept Shemira at mythic on my first account but you are really far away from having the fodder to do that

Splitting up your resources the way you did has limited your viable options severely

[short ginkgo]

Especially at early stage

[hearty rain]

As for the other factions

[ancient onyx]

Marci or laios? If building just one. In context i have albedo to protect anyone of them

[sonic matrix]

@cobalt coral yo yo
So I got a question
You say it's worth if I get both dimensional heroes
But can't I just get them easily if I log in for 7 days in a row?

And should I change any wishlist or nah

[burnt moss]

What is one copy of a hero going to do for you

Having a hero means investing enough into it to be useful

[cobalt coral]

They both kinda need 5* @sonic matrix

[sonic matrix]

I'm willing to spend all my 20k diamonds on the banner
What does the dimensional spirit do

[burnt moss]

20k ain't enough

Dimensional spirits are used to ascend the heroes

You need 23 to bring one to A5

If you were to spend only diamonds then between the amount of spirits you get for free and the pulls you need, you would need roughly 420,000 diamonds to get both to a5

[cobalt coral]

I spent 400 scrolls and 130k diamonds and I have Marci 5* and Laios 1*

[sonic matrix]

Well damn
Do I NEED a5
How good is good enough

[thorn holly]

So laios optimal invest is 5*?

[cobalt coral]

For a f2p 1* or 3* is good

3* adds 15% more dmg to enemy team

But both of them are squishy af

[thorn holly]

Well laios needs bis Ult Right?

[cobalt coral]

His SI?

20 is enough is think

[thorn holly]

What i mean is he needs his ult popped quickly or hes of no use right?

Im f2p and got 6 Spirits saved up i should get him to 1*-3* what do you think?

[cobalt coral]

You have him Ascended?

[thorn holly]

I dont have him yet

I have her 5*

[cobalt coral]

I see you are server 4 so your 4F should be good

You can try and bring Laios to 3*

[thorn holly]

Yes i can put everthing in the dims

[cobalt coral]

How is your Shalltear and Bedo

[thorn holly]

What do the Numbers in your Name stand for

[cobalt coral]

My Id so people can add me

You should make Shalltear 3*

[thorn holly]

Ah you can add me if you like

[cobalt coral]

Cuz she gets another cheat death

[thorn holly]

Im hesitent because i know factually shes way better that way but not once did i really Need that

[cobalt coral]

Then you can try your best to Ascend Laios

[thorn holly]

She was always enough so why bother yk

[cobalt coral]

That cheat death she has is so big

In arena, FF and campaign

[thorn holly]

Yh but that would mean probably no ascended laios

[cobalt coral]

Depends, we have 30 days for collab event

[tiny saffron]

this is afk arena

[toxic briar]

Lol sorry I misclicked server

[arctic zinc]

8 dim spirits atm who do I build

[cobalt coral]

If you think you are not be able to get both with some stars on them

Save them for next collab

[arctic zinc]

Oki ty

[compact sapphire]

Hi guys, I have 2 elite+ copies of both trishea and mishka. Should I start building? and if so which one?

[tiny saffron]

send heroes

[compact sapphire]

Sent

I still have 50 faction scrolls so might use them in a bit but between the 2 wilders who do you think will be the better first build

[tiny saffron]

mishka

you need tank, shes also dmg dealer at same time so shes best for first

[compact sapphire]

Kk bet thank you

[coarse ledge]

You guys think developers planned for hero exp to be the bottle neck? Or just didnt account for it

Theres dust as reward everywhere they probably though they were fixing classic's dust need and just created a exp one

[pure star]

I think they planned for a credit card bottle neck.

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[tiny saffron]

they gave an event to buy alot of exp for whales so

[compact sapphire]

is saving dust chest as important in companions as in classic or should i just pop them when i get bottle necked and can get a level off of them

[coarse ledge]

No, in companions you want to save the exp ones instead. Saving dust doesnt matter

[compact sapphire]

Thank you

[compact sapphire]

i have made a severe lapse in judgement

[compact sapphire]

i thought this mishka in here was an elite+ but it was an elite and now im getting trishea copies like no tomorrow

💔 💔

[coarse ledge]

Trishea copy like no tomorrow is good

[compact sapphire]

Ye but i already got mishka to legendary and im conflicted now cause i wanted to build 1 at a time

i just hope my luck turns around i guess

[coarse ledge]

Yeah leaving mishka at L+ and switching to trish is an option

[compact sapphire]

Ok yea i might do that if i get enough food and tons of copies

[coarse ledge]

Prolly build a L+ food first before you decide, depends on how much you rellyng on a mishka early carry atm

[compact sapphire]

shes doing good for me rn, im still pushing campaign. and i almost have an L+ food done so maybe i can turn the tide of this

[coarse ledge]

You probably got like a marcile already wich could be another option

[compact sapphire]

I havent picked from that chest yet idk if shes worth building

only got the free dim things and like 20 scrolls though so idk if i could take her high if i got her

[coarse ledge]

She def is, you gonna get both marci and laios the thing you play around is how many dimensional cloaks you pull from the banner to ascend them

[tiny saffron]

if f2p don't bother with the dims rn

[compact sapphire]

ive spent some money but ye i feel like the dimensional thing will run my pockets

[quasi flint]

Why you all dislike dim heroes 😂

They are pretty good and easy( at events) to 5 star

I have 2 5* and 1 1* also 9 spirits in bag

I spent 5$ for monthly pass

[coarse ledge]

Regardless real money investment its great units on a temporal event so def should be looking to pull some towards them

[compact sapphire]

idk man i only have 20 scrolls 😭

thats not even 1 expected figure these guys are not getting past elite+

[coarse ledge]

After event its gone spirit only obtainable thru stargazer wich is out of the question

[obtuse dove]

^ he's right

without sarcasm

[compact sapphire]

Ye but i dont wanna spend hundreds to get these guy asc i know they're good tho

Maybe next time 😭

[coarse ledge]

You could spend your diamonds

[compact sapphire]

ive been using them all on standard cuz this server is like a day old, how much is a 10 pull anyways ?

[coarse ledge]

Thing is you miss on pulling your 4 factions over dims

A 10 pull for dims is 3k, pity is at 60 so it's ass rates

[compact sapphire]

how many figures are needed to take the new hero to asc

[compact sapphire]

I dont dislike them but i havent played long enough or spent enough to invest in 1 let alone 2. You got that brotha

[coarse ledge]

You still get fodder, but no 4 factions heroes only elite u get are the cloaks. So probably spend some more diamonds on normals, then grab what you can of dimensionals before they go off

You need 13 to ascend, wich is like 240 pulls in the banner

[compact sapphire]

thats 240?

240 from what im seeing is like 4 from milestone and 4 more from what you said the pity is

[coarse ledge]

I think a even mythic marci could carry early game tho, and you could commit only to summon dimensionals from now. But is just a theory you would have to decide when

[coarse ledge]

240 with standard luck and the few spirits they give free should be 13=an ascended +-

[compact sapphire]

standard luck 😭 bro the rates are 2% for one

wait let me think 1s

that still sounds like less than 10 unless you get luckier

[coarse ledge]

You already got the marci chest tho and prolly a few free dim spirits, can make her E+ and test her

[compact sapphire]

well expected 5 + the 4 from milestones + 2 more free is like 11 so if you get a little luckier its possible yeah

but didnt you say the other guy should be built too?

[coarse ledge]

Wants to yeah, so early in the game you can but play with what you can reach

[compact sapphire]

I think its somewhere in the ball park of 100-150 usd to get them both ascended

with the dimension deals but the milestones kind of cook you after the first 4 puppets

[coarse ledge]

yeah idk talk about money i live under bridge play on mcdonalds wifi

[compact sapphire]

😭

[coarse ledge]

but if i were in same situation id go all in pulling for dimensionals, make marci your carry. Thats what we de before with shaltear, she has way more sustain but marci could work

[compact sapphire]

tragic that i literally burnt all my gems on banner 💔 wish i knew this before i started spending

[coarse ledge]

If you end up with like 1star marci and mythic laios its still worth it

[coarse ledge]

Im sure others would recommend stayng in the normal banner and ignoring dims idk, thats what i would do tho

Having many trisheas is already winning the game

Ive just got like 5 trisheas in S19

[compact sapphire]

ill think about it, kinda forgot there is still 3 weeks in the event lol

i can save up for now and make a decision later

[coarse ledge]

Thing is you also want to push campaign otherwise its less experience you are potentially be getting if stay hoarding

[compact sapphire]

Ye, ima just do some math and see if its possible to get these guys ascended by the time the event ends

[hexed loom]

Anyone got any advice to improve?

[compact sapphire]

yo

so i decided to do this, ima start now. should i be trying to evenly ascend them or focus on 1 before the other?

like idk if its more worth it to try and get asc with no stars on both ,or go for a5 on marci, etc

[unreal plank]

Should I upgrade food to L to make some progress? What should I do?

[compact sapphire]

so i heard of this strategy while scrolling around here

you take your highest ascension unit swap them with an elite you want and then swap them out of reso crystal and into another slot

so you can just level the highest unit repeatedly and swap and eventually the whole reso crystal is that level

and you can freely swap that level between any of your units, so you can do that if you want

seems to be working for i took my L unit swapped it to an elite, and even tho it dropped levels i can relevel it without leveling another unit (i have other units but if i didnt have another L unit)

[hexed loom]

Is there anyone I can replace or get to improve my team?

[compact sapphire]

so basically yeah level 1 fodder to legendary, preferably a faction in which you dont have a lot of copies of an ascended hero cause then you can get the fodder back

[compact sapphire]

uhh this is companions try asking in #classic-questions if you havent

[hexed loom]

Thanks and sorry

[unreal plank]

But I have to upgrade like all 5 fodder to L to increase general lvl +20

[compact sapphire]

nah ascend 1 to legendary, then level that one to max level. then swap it for a lower level elite. then put it in another slot thats lower level, and level it again. you catch my drift?

[unreal plank]

No, it's a little bit difficult to understand what you mean

[compact sapphire]

this is my reso crystal rn, the guy in the center is elite and cannot reach level 140

my mishka (which was level 140) i swapped her out for him, and now that shes level 120 i can level her back up to 140

then i can swap her out for another, and repeat until all slots are 140

[unreal plank]

Doesn't it require proper quality for lvl?

[compact sapphire]

not for the swap, although you cant level him anymore since hes elite, he will retain the level thats swapped to him

so in theory if you had just 1 maxed out ascended hero you can get your whole reso crystal to that max level, with enough resources and swapping back and forth

so yeah if you dont wanna risk not having the fodder by the time you get the copies (which you probably wont anyways) you can do this trick
but ascending a fodder to L/L+ isnt bad either for level cap, but if you trying to build another hero you might want that fodder

[unreal plank]

Does it also increase lvl of heroes from companion?

[compact sapphire]

the ascension level? no its only that hero

[unreal plank]

I mean lvl cap on heroes from companion. For example he has heroes 160lvl, but in my team they are 100 lvl

[compact sapphire]

well, they will be the level you swap him from

so if the fodder hero is level 160 and you swap to an elite, it will become level 160 even though its supposed cap is like what 100

and from there on every hero you put into that slot will be level 160

but the original level 160 fodder will drop down the level of the hero you swapped it to

[unreal plank]

And then I need upgrade fodder lvl again?

Then swap and so on

[compact sapphire]

yep, cause since its a higher ascension level it has a higher level cap than the other heroes that are elite/elite+

[unreal plank]

So I should have only 1 fodder L quality?

Will I be able later create ascention main hero? Or should I create fodder asc?

[compact sapphire]

well, you will build more later, but this method can help you now if you dont have enough food to ascend 5 food heroes

[compact sapphire]

yes, once you get more copies of the main hero you want to ascend, you can use the food you havent used or even use the legendary fodder and take it higher

[unreal plank]

Thank you

[compact sapphire]

No problem, sorry for the yap session I hope this can help 😂

[coarse ledge]

@compact sapphire na probably better to get marcile to like 1*, then laios m

[compact sapphire]

bet, thanks

[tiny saffron]

please dont mislead new players, they are not worth it for new accounts esp f2p. They will only be carries if you max both of them which is impossible for new accs. Its better to put all dias on normal summons unless Shalltear level dimensional where you're basically building a whole team with 1 hero

[craggy moth]

How invested each one? Anyone need si30?? their si30 are more important that albedo si30?

I have albedo a3 and shall a5

Ainz elite

[mighty geyser]

Yo which server is better playing? Companions or Classic?

[cobalt coral]

Have you played afk arena before?

[mighty geyser]

Yes, not so much but started again

[cobalt coral]

You can try both for one month or so

And decide where you continue

[mighty geyser]

ah but companions has less rewards and events?

[cobalt coral]

Yea, but it s easier to understand

Fewer heroes, fewer modes

[mighty geyser]

mmn i see. So both servers are good

[mighty geyser]

I have an account with Shalltear but was abanoned in January. Should i start a new acc or continue with this one?

a newbiw acc it is

[compact sapphire]

🥲

[tiny saffron]

well it depends if youre competitive or not, you'd obviously be behind and its better to play in new server

[compact sapphire]

Hi so I took the advice of the guy and now this is what I have 😭 at this point should I keep going and if so how far

Cuz I got her ascended which is pretty cool but like you said they are best when both maxed which I don’t think I will do

[tiny saffron]

umm i dont have them so i'm not sure. Based on people who have them it must be 5 star Marcille, and mythic laios atleast (doubt) coz he'd probably die before can even ult, so i think he should be 3-5 star

[compact sapphire]

Yeah I’ve seen a lot of mixed things on laois

But if I didn’t want to max them both out is there a certain level I should bring them or should I just drop it now and go to regular banner

5* on marci is like another hundred bucks alone not even accounting for laios 😭 im not this committed

[tiny saffron]

If you dont wanna spend anymore then obv stop. Otherwise I suggest you wait for someone who have them to know how much to upgrade

weird emoji

[compact sapphire]

Kk sounds good I’ll see

[median basalt]

How much dim heroes is needed to get a character to mythic?

[obtuse dove]

7

[rigid sierra]

Is there any guide what should i put in wishlist? Im new player

[tiny saffron]

pins

[ivory citrus]

Should I invest in Albedo or Marcile ?

I have Shalltear a5

[whole sentinel]

Is the guild channel in this discord also for companions people or is there a different section

And is there a group in companions who would take a newer player

[tiny saffron]

its for classic cz guilds there are global, unlike here

[whole sentinel]

Ah shit

Thy for the answer

Will companions be like normal btw later on ?

[tiny saffron]

hopefully

[coarse ledge]

I did say it's what i would do thats an opinion, and even without laios marcile should be viable carry early

What's the problem

[coarse ledge]

Why you don't have marcille?

[whole sentinel]

Which hero from maulers should i focus early on

[small trench]

generally speaking you'd want to push with wilders because of awakened solise becoming unlockable in chapter 23 with five ascended wilder heroes

but for your question, my personal pick is either crassio (potentially big damage but frail as paper), salaki (valuable shields [with sig] that saved my teams more often than i'd like to admit), skriath (generally a decent maulers mage, with insane synergy with belinda in boss content), and skreg (durable tank but needs a bit more investment)

[tiny saffron]

your opinion is persuasive, and no she is not. He will be missing out on building teams just for 1 overrated dim

[coarse ledge]

Thats another opinion, wouldnt call marci overrated tho as you claim to not even have her

[tiny saffron]

sure, just dont go telling newbies to spend all dias on this dims and i wont mind your opinion

[eternal dagger]

does dim spirits disappear after event?

[void cliff]

Who would be better to ascend Ainz or Marcile?

[coarse ledge]

Huh?

[coarse ledge]

No you are just unable to summon them besides stargazing

[coarse ledge]

Marcile5*>laios 1*> ainz

[void cliff]

Thank you

[mighty geyser]

But i want Shalltear 💀

[burnt moss]

This game is all about staying competitive. It's fine to not have shalltear as long as nobody else does

[obtuse dove]

https://tenor.com/view/overlord-anime-shaltear-gif-22102422

[inner copper]

is daimon still good?

[tiny saffron]

can carry below chap 20, so hes ok

[inner copper]

alright also has cassius fallen off?

[full jay]

he is still used in ch 42

[full jay]

Yes, very.

[inner copper]

dang

[full jay]

You need 5 teams ... some ppl jus thave a lot of better stuff with fewer team required

He's not as good as Shalltear, Ainz, Marcielle, Mira, Trishea, aSolise, Gwyneth

but he is most of the time 1 out of the top 25 heroes in campaign

[burnt moss]

Daimon is a lot more important without shalltear being given out

Unfortunately I still haven't been able to even get Daimon to mythic on either of my accounts

Getting shafted hard

Really feels like the wishlist heroes don't have equal drop rates sometimes. Oku is going to end up being the first 5* wilder for both of my accounts it seems

Rosaline will also be my second ascended LB after Rowan

[tiny saffron]

it really isnt, there are strats there to get the specific hero you want and in sg which i only tell my members

[burnt moss]

Well if you don't say anything then I can't believe you

[tiny saffron]

true

[full jay]

I feel Zodiac signs "I have a theorie, but no facts" vibes.

Same as in Tinus, "there is guaranteed 4 pulls for everyone" early on.

(there is guaranteed 3 pulls btw.) - as far as I can tell - but the 4 pull is a lucky addon because of that or a real rare occurence

[tiny saffron]

we've already tested it, its not a flawless one but it gives much higher chance. I dont want everyone to do the same cz im selfish

[full jay]

Harms no one to tell for now.

I'd assume it to be "confirmation bias"

Instead of proving it you should disprove it and if it seems to be easily disproven, because it is not consistent, then its bias.

[burnt moss]

Saying "I know x but I won't tell you" is just pointless

Sounds like something I would've said in kindergarten to look smart

[tiny saffron]

eh i dont need anyone to prove it its fine

[full jay]

no worries just sayin its bs, bc u looked at it from the wrong perspective in the first place

[burnt moss]

5% of the time it works every time

Proven fact

[coarse ledge]

Without telling i can tell it's just a placebo method. "Theres this thing i do to pull better, sometimes it doesnt work but when it does its def cuz i did it"

[tiny saffron]

mmm indeed

[burnt moss]

I remember the things people would post on the tcgpocket reddit claiming they know how to get the best wonder picks

[full jay]

no hate tho, just saying cool for you, but as the other say too, pretty unbelievable

[silver saffron]

Can I safe the collaboration chest for the next collab or will I only be able to get the 2 current ones from the chest?

[tiny saffron]

i get it

[tiny saffron]

current

[full jay]

as far as im aware they're each unique to each collabs and only hold the collab heroes they were released on

f.e. they have collab chest with uid 1001 for shalltear, ainz, albedo

and collab chest with uid 1002 for marcielle and laios

so you wont be able to pull the next collab heroes with this collab chest

otherwise this collab chest would have ainz albedo and shall in it...

[burnt moss]

Laios will help Marcille at 1 copy for bossing if you decide to invest in Marci over laios

[silver saffron]

Im not investing in any1 of them, because I pretty much get them from the koop feature for nearly every mode. So I think I will just pick both 1x for the collection.

[inner copper]

guys what are your thoughts on Mira?

[full jay]

broken cc at a1
carry at a3 +20

[burnt moss]

Mira hasn't come home for me on either account but she is s tier according to tier list

[full jay]

Mira release was so fun breaking stage records again like with shalltear

[inner copper]

sorry not very familiar with those terms

[burnt moss]

We just need a bot that responds to everyone's first message with "read pins"

[full jay]

kinda

[compact sapphire]

Yo I have marci at a0 rn and laois just elite but I don’t think I will max both of them out do you have any recommendation on what ascension I should take each of them to

[full jay]

just a5 marci

[compact sapphire]

Kk thank you

[thorn holly]

Iperx babe

Im slowly catching up to u

Currently chapter 40-48

[knotty night]

Hi, which one is better marcille or laios?

[burnt moss]

If you search on the discord you'll find the hundred others who have asked this question and the responses to those

It's the same 5 people responding to everyone

[mighty geyser]

But is she even good or op?

[knotty night]

[burnt moss]

Marcille isn't shalltear.

[mighty geyser]

huh?

[burnt moss]

You asked if Marcille was op

Shalltear is op. Marcille isn't her level.

[mighty geyser]

No no, Shalltear lol i didnt mentioned Marcille lol

[full jay]

its hard up here at 42-12... even ZephyrFalcon is on his carries Tran, +30, T2 Weapons (sometimes even more T2s) .. crazy

[burnt moss]

Sigh ...

[mighty geyser]

aah ok then i keep the account with Shalltear xd

btw Ainz and Albedo op too?

[burnt moss]

An account that is behind with shalltear is worse than an account that is competitive with Marcille.

[full jay]

Toast needs access for an automated bot

[knotty night]

and if I already have Shall maxed

[mighty geyser]

Bruh ok ok i start again

[burnt moss]

Atp I am a bot 🤖

[full jay]

Well it depends if you're far behind being competitive even a maxed Shall wont help you

f.e. your lvl 280 and everyone is lvl 340 ... you only have that Shall and everyone has multiple teams and you cant get top 30 in arena, cant get top 30 in dream ... and so on

[burnt moss]

In some ways the overlord characters are so powerful that it exaggerates the power gap between the good and bad.

[full jay]

Like guys, we're talking about the competitive rewards

If you do not care about them do whatever you want.

Yes a maxed shall is great but if everyone that you're competing with has a maxxed shall and now already albedo and ainz from all the events

you're running a Marathon and you're getting further and further behind because of the rewards that you're missing out

if you're in regionarena (multiserver) top 100 as f2p, are arround top 10-top30 in dream realm and are in a good level pace compared to other free2plays (not the whales/krakens that are full p2w)

then you're good

[knotty night]

In my alt acc I try to do better, I'm almost always in the top 30 in arena and DR

On my main acc rank in the top 50 in DR but arena is painful lol

[burnt moss]

In tanks region I have to snipe to make sure I hold top 100 arena. 😭

[knotty night]

I can't get out of the top 200 in my main acc (s12)

[covert prairie]

I can't even get into top 200

[burnt moss]

That sounds like you need a new server for sure. I can't imagine you're doing well in dream realms either

[covert prairie]

Nah I'm good on that front. I suck at pvp tho. Tank is on my server haha

[coarse ledge]

Am i wrong?

[coarse ledge]

True for solo clearing, she has more potential in other aspects tho like realm

[burnt moss]

She does not put in work beyond the scope of her intended role. She is not overpowered. Even in bossing we have seen similar results from 4F and like any other hero she needs support.

It's certainly possible that someone who ignores Marcille and Laios could still use their resources to build an equally strong team. It's just that you're guaranteed to get Marcille ascended if you pull dims

Whereas you have to play the tavern lottery for the characters who can replace her

[full jay]

Just sayin the normal bundle has 4% rate compared to the 2% from the dim soul banner

but the dim soul banner has milestone rewards each 60 ... and later on each 80 or something like that. So aslong as you have the milestone banner on 60 you end up getting the same value at an avg of 4%

Pack 1 (Pity Every 30 Pulls, 4% Epic Chance):

Effective Epic Rate: 4.35%.

Pack 2 (Before Milestone: Pity Every 60 Pulls, 4% Epic Chance):

Effective Epic Rate: 4.04%.

Pack 2 (After Milestone: Pity Every 80 Pulls, 4% Epic Chance):

Effective Epic Rate: 4.02%.

so like it doesnt really change that much

[coarse ledge]

I like how her ulti is single target- cleavy. It has some some area clear while being strong single target

[full jay]

but you can focus a specific card which lets you powerclimb by having an a5 with divinity unlocked, espacially since most of the times some dimensionals are pretty powerful

and i dont think that f2p reaches 100 milestone gap

[coarse ledge]

She pretty much counters current solice meta too

[full jay]

she counters summons, grezhul and numisu espacially but yea can also counter Solise and Mishka

eventho I'd assume that she loses against them in pvp

[coarse ledge]

Just play marci with solice, so it's a solice killer solice team

Lilith giving us 5 teams arena when you can just play around one

[full jay]

If I play arround I'll end up in top 30

last time I was sniped in the last 2minutes down to 23 sniped myself up to top 5

[coarse ledge]

I'm just a worm tho, but solice nevathi dims is doing good

[full jay]

for sure

[coarse ledge]

-2 hours shame i don't have spirits to play laios but elite

[burnt moss]

Do you prefer Silas as the dim healer over salami?

[coarse ledge]

I have questions too, what do you think about laios-marci 30 are mandatory? Im planning on 30ing my marci

Or would you still have like lyca or rowan 30 higher priority

[full jay]

marci 30 is a nice to have which lets her machinegun sometimes

laios idk not too much of a fan so far, sometimes he is great, a lot of times he fumbles, felt like a waste to +30

[full jay]

silas is also antiheal, so yea because he fullfills two spots in the dim team

[coarse ledge]

Does laios have any kind of ranged attack like sonja? Or goes straight into allhu akhbar

[full jay]

depends on your box, I'd say albedo 30 is more important

[full jay]

only his ult

other than that he always walks in

his ult also ccs enemies and makes laios take 60% less dmg so when he doesnt ult, he's useless

and the +30 dmg increase is unnoticeable so far for me, maybe a nice to have for dream, but way less important than others

like im talking about solise, albedo, ainz, trishea, mira, gwyneth, crassio taking priority over his +30

[burnt moss]

What does the A3 even mean on Silas? It says "this skill" on the divinity as if I'm supposed to know which skill it's talking about

[full jay]

I'd also say I'm unsure towards +30 on lyca, is great if you skip trishea +30 and use lyca aSolise eironn instead of them

[coarse ledge]

Only works on melees otherwise

[full jay]

silas skill only works on melee

so his a3 unlocky that its able to work on ranged

[burnt moss]

I see. Someone should send Lilith an English tutor

[coarse ledge]

Funny none of the sorting options work

[burnt moss]

Injected fury doesn't even state that it's melee only

[coarse ledge]

Yeah they love saving by using google, in spanish ezizh was described as woman forever until just now

[full jay]

his a1 states it:

its basically about the a1 and not the injected fury itself

[burnt moss]

Oh so it refers to the A1 divinity. They should really fix how it's referenced

[full jay]

Yea is a bit weird

[coarse ledge]

@full jay my trish isnt playeable yet

[burnt moss]

I wish you could turn divinities on and off to test. Or roll back SI

And sometimes the effects they give to characters are harmful

I remember c6 Bennett in Genshin being worse than c5

[full jay]

later on there are only 7 players above me in pve I believe... ppl like to use this wilder comp for the immunity from the pippa port:

[full jay]

same

[burnt moss]

Even then kasu wouldn't test low ascension heroes for us

[coarse ledge]

You know whats cool theres everything there is in classic but the 9/9 furnitures

1 star> e30 classic, 3 star> e60, 5> 3 furnitures

Only thing missing is 9/9 and +40

[full jay]

1000% sure they'll add 9/9 behind trans and bring out +40 later

not sure when we will be there but if the game goes on pretty sure we're getting the stuff

[coarse ledge]

Yea its crazy cuz you can +40 but theres no effect nor white emblems yet

[burnt moss]

When they add +40 the +37 shalltear player will be the one laughing

[full jay]

we have a +38 aTalene, a +38 athalia and +35 aTalene and a +37 Shalltear player

I think the only way a +35 would be worth it, would be for haste

[burnt moss]

Inb4 3 of those are the same person

[full jay]

10 haste for a +40 on talene 💀

6 haste +40 flora

10 for audrae

like my audrae at +30 would get 2 haste at +35 for ~200emblems

naaah thats devious

i take it back

no +35 is worth it

[burnt moss]

It's a good thing it's not like other gacha where the heroes instantly get 2x better between the 2nd last and last upgrade

[coarse ledge]

I don't rlly mind campaign tho not a fan

[coarse ledge]

What would you +30?

[full jay]

tbh I love campaign, not sure why, but I like figuring stuff out and breaking even way below other people, but I can't seem to beat that Zephyr guy, that guy actually knows his theoriecrafts

43-32 is crazy

[coarse ledge]

What level déficit is that? Last i think mine was around 30

[full jay]

Idk his lvl yet but on 42-60 he was at 72 deficit (378 vs 450)

[coarse ledge]

Im like 99% doing marci just grabing second opinions

[full jay]

my latest deficit was 66 (371 vs 437)

and that already felt impossible

i need t2 stones soon .... skipped every t2 stone so far, but I need that magical and physical pierce, aswell as crit ...

[coarse ledge]

Yeah this isnt funny anymore. Whats a t2 stone how do you get it?

[mighty geyser]

And this abandoned acc worth continue playing?

S77

[mighty geyser]

@burnt moss

[coarse ledge]

Debatable depends what you define as worth

Having fun sure you can

[mighty geyser]

Having Shalltear

[coarse ledge]

Competitive not too much

[mighty geyser]

Ok so its worth it xd

[burnt moss]

I'm on 157 and further along than you

[coarse ledge]

Yeah, no. Unless you spend a lot it wont be competitive

[burnt moss]

Lvl 100 is like.... 3 days?

[mighty geyser]

[burnt moss]

2 days maybe

[coarse ledge]

You do have a shalltear profile picture and can roleplay and have fun

Is that worth it

[mighty geyser]

[coarse ledge]

But progressing into the game not rlly

[mighty geyser]

Im gonna revise if its an abandoned server

[coarse ledge]

It is, new should be like 130ish

[mighty geyser]

Im f2p and noob tho cant compare them

[coarse ledge]

Can't see, too shinny. Wtf

[mighty geyser]

lol

[coarse ledge]

Why is raine si20? So not aesthetic

[mighty geyser]

Still you say better start again?

[coarse ledge]

No. Are you drunk? Thats another acc

[mighty geyser]

Yeah my server top

[mighty geyser]

Im saying my acc lol

[coarse ledge]

Oh though you were flexing your alts lol

Yeah restart

[mighty geyser]

Bruh ok ok im gonna reroll xd

[coarse ledge]

Yeah. Gogogo

[mighty geyser]

Sure

Before reset in 1h!!

F my shalltear

[coarse ledge]

This new server meta should be dope u get marci and laios

Until like 15days

[mighty geyser]

Sure

[coarse ledge]

1h + i can smell laios panties

[mighty geyser]

btw what happens if i buy a Marcille dupe?

[full jay]

u get a soul

[marble fractal]

would u recommend companions or classic server for a new player?

[jagged tusk]

Neither

[full jay]

play both and stick with whatever you like or understand more https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1304579856918642748

i found classic to hard for me to follow

[tiny saffron]

companions is beginner friendly

[marble fractal]

thanks

[mighty geyser]

whats that?

[full jay]

dimensional soul, upgrading mats for dimensionals?

[burnt moss]

I think they're actually spirits tbf

[mighty geyser]

Just 1? Very expensive tho

[burnt moss]

Have you calculated the cost of the scrolls needed for a dim?

I agree it's not cheap but nothing in this game is

[mighty geyser]

No

[burnt moss]

50 summons for a spirit. About 30 cents per scroll with the good deals.

[marble fractal]

should I get deluxe monthly card? is that crucial

[full jay]

if you think its expensive dont buy it, i recalc stuff and usally hang with good events/scrolls

and 5,99€ for 1 soul is not bad as p2w

[mighty geyser]

So dimensional units can only upgrade them when theres a collab?

[full jay]

its 30 faction scrolls and 30 divinity scrolls, aswell aso 6k gems, i like it, but I also abuse the perk store

[burnt moss]

The deluxe monthly card is good value for spenders but again everything in this game is expensive compared to what you need

[full jay]

guys in the onedrive by sailus is a calculation sheet

you can recalc everything on your own aswell

[burnt moss]

6 euros for a spirit is good value but if I buy 23 spirits to max a dim then that's 138 euros which is insanity.

Gotta think about what you're willing to do for a character

[full jay]

from my calcs everything up to the upper 2 bundles are worth it btw.

[mighty geyser]

but dimensional units can only upgrade them when theres a collab?

[burnt moss]

For the most part yes

[mighty geyser]

ouch

[burnt moss]

We get tiny morsels of spirits elsewhere

[tiny saffron]

basic is fine, deluxe for whales

[marble fractal]

got it, thanks

[full jay]

disagreed, deluxe is still low spending worth

if I'd be a low spender I'd buy all season passes aswell as both monthly cards and maybe f.e. the first 1-2 special event deals that are really cheap

but that is something for the person to decide - like budget size matters.

[marble fractal]

I have 20k gem should I spend them for summon?

[tiny saffron]

normal

[burnt moss]

I think it depends on what you call low spend. Spending on the deluxe every month for me would be insane

You could do deluxe until you have Solise but it isn't that big a deal

"low spend" is also relative since it could either be total spend or monthly expenditure

$10 a month is $120 after a year which is insane for a video game. Let alone a shitty phone game.

Gotta think about what you're willing to spend to have whatever you are spending towards

[full jay]

Well it depends on how mich time in sink into stuff

time = money

so aslong as I spent time into a game, I don't mind equally wasting money. I do limit myself and am not that close to Kasu.

But its an amount that you cannot be proud of

I also spent money on wellness massages and restaurants.

[burnt moss]

Just don't whale on the happy ending

That's how they get you

[full jay]

didnt happen to me yet, prob to young

in germany we have districts for that, that are legal - so usally you dont go to massages for that kind of thing

[marble fractal]

should I spend 20k diamonds guys?

for summon

[burnt moss]

Didn't you get the response

[burnt moss]

.

[marble fractal]

didn't understand what normal means there

[burnt moss]

Normal summons

10 summons for 2700

[marble fractal]

okay thanks

[full jay]

😭 we need someone to pay toast in diamonds for his support

50 diamonds for each support request

[burnt moss]

If it's Lilith it'll be 300 diamonds one time and a 🙂 emoji

[full jay]

montes burning out, luceus also less active (but atleast you see him like once a day), sailus less active

i feel like the big 3 is burning out

[honest bear]

What would be the order of priority to 5* and SI for: Laios, Marcille, Albedo, Ainz?

[full jay]

Albedo > Marcielle/Ainz > Laios

need some testing on Marcielle/Ainz but so far they're doing pretty even. Marcielle does better against summon teams and Ainz does better against non-summon teams.

Ainz does better against burst, Marcielle does better as tank killer.

[coarse ledge]

Yeah marci single target is something

[coarse ledge]

You have ainz 20 tho right?

Albedo si30*
Marcile
Ainz
Laios

Marci 5*/ainz 5*
Bedo 3*
Laios 1*

[burnt moss]

Tank killer? I don't think anyone can kill him.

[coarse ledge]

Marcille was bis this week in boss killing on classic too

Thats with like 80+ heroes

[honest bear]

I've only raised Shalltear.

[honest bear]

Thanks, iperx. 👍

[coarse ledge]

Thats what i sayd

[honest bear]

Thanks, kkod. 👍

[dull tree]

I'm sorry, this has probably been asked before but I can't find an answer.
How many spirits does it take to ascend a dimensional?

I mean, ascended with 0 stars

[full jay]

copy + 23

[full jay]

o 13

a0 is 13, a5 is 23

[dull tree]

I see i see, cool

Thanks

[full jay]

np gl!

[wary yew]

24 dim spirits atm w/ 580 pulls, keep pulling and see if i can go to M laios and a5 marceille or do sth else?

[full jay]

prob something like albedo m and dumping leftovers either in marcielle or ainz

albedo has the +30 prio for any dimensional team you build

ainz works also well with +20

marcielle probably wants +30

[wary yew]

ah okay, thanks! i havent +30d my asolise yet LOL

[full jay]

have not yet +20 a5 marcielle on my f2p (only a5 +18, so will test out the +20 on f2p even more before i can say whether she is also as good as ainz)

[dull tree]

Your pfp reminds me of starry cat, it's lovely

[full jay]

thanks :>

[dull tree]

Not meaning to bother you, but can you help me decide how to use my spirits please

[full jay]

If you share your heroes I don't mind.

[dull tree]

Sure, thanks :>

At the moment I have 15 spirits

[full jay]

15 spirits would be a1

[dull tree]

I suppose that by the end of the event I could get around 23 or so

[dull tree]

Oki oki

For now I've got Solise and Rowan at +30.
I am saving emblems, I've got 80 rn, I wouldn't mind using them on marcille

[full jay]

Hm for me its a hard tell whether marci needs her +30 to be competitive against ainz

atm I'd guess ainz is better

[full jay]

emblems should go on albedo first for her +30

[dull tree]

Oh really? I thought her optimal was +20, thanks for the tip

[full jay]

its 45% atk and 75% defense

[dull tree]

True that's huge

[coarse ledge]

No, thank you citizen

[full jay]

yep on all 3 heroes or more if you decide to add in other dimensionals later on

albedo will always be in dimensionals even without ainz, marcielle or other stuff just because of her SI

[coarse ledge]

Yeah. You know what else is huge?

[dull tree]

Okay, so Albedo is a safe investment, no risk of power creep then

Would you say I should take Albedo or trishea to +30 first?

[full jay]

albedo if you get ainz or marcielle up

[coarse ledge]

Trishea

[dull tree]

[full jay]

no way, Trish +20 works fine as it is

[coarse ledge]

But i don't have trishea xD

[full jay]

++ ppl tend to use less trish in pve already because of her nerfs

Shes great for pvp and bossing, but in campaign we start to use pippa, solise, eironn

[dull tree]

I see okay

[full jay]

and +20 should do fine either ways for pvp, a bit less for bossing but still fine

trish +30 after albedo would be right tho

or marcielle if you do marcielle instead of ainz

[dull tree]

So, would you reckon my best move for now, is waiting for more testings?
And after the event ends, I make the decision whether to take ainz or marcille to a5?

[coarse ledge]

Pvp and bossing should be all the objective xd

[dull tree]

Okay good

[coarse ledge]

Campaignzzz

[full jay]

I feel marcielle a5 as more impact compared to ainz because of revival and better usage vs tank units aswell as energy regen against summon units (numisu, grezhul, mishka, aSolise...)

[coarse ledge]

What's even ainz 5*?

Marci is huge

[full jay]

but i feel like ainz a3 +20 works great already

big debuff thats set ups an insta kill for his ult

[dull tree]

Okay oki

[coarse ledge]

Oh so more pulses

[full jay]

doesnt work always but if it hits pre his ult he'll stage clear.

that stun alone is huge

[coarse ledge]

Marci doesnt start with ainz shield tho her sustain is built in her 5*

[full jay]

marci is very fragile yep

[dull tree]

Supposing i spend spirits on marcille for a5, then I'd still have ainz and laios at 1 copy.
Would that be alright?

[full jay]

yes

[coarse ledge]

And it's a shame she didnt got her classic 9/9 powerspike

[full jay]

but marci outdamages ainz a lot in dream

already without that another 50% circle dps buff

[coarse ledge]

Its like being highly resilient while a magic circle is active

[dull tree]

Okay, so, laios isn't good?

[full jay]

laios is good on low deficit

[coarse ledge]

Laios is too good

[full jay]

but falls off hard and is very fragile for a warrior/frontliner

[coarse ledge]

Cuz he adds +3 Minions on marci stacks

[full jay]

yea but even with albedo on high deficit he sometimes needs rowan and another utility to not flop

[coarse ledge]

Did you see marci is BiS in classic boss killing this round

[full jay]

not a big fan of his +30 either

[dull tree]

Well, thanks for all the help, I appreciate it a lot

[full jay]

didnt see anything classic related ^^ sry

[full jay]

always a pleasure

[coarse ledge]

No don't be sry

Shes bis this week in damage tho. With there being like 80+ héroes in classic

So theres a reason we not using ainz but marcille

In classic*

[full jay]

Yea for sure she gives +50% damage to her and another unit if her circle triggers aswell right?

And her single target burst and energy generation is really good

[coarse ledge]

Yeah her burst looks like area but its all but single target

We dont have boss realm in companions tho

Dream realm is vs set'd teams

[full jay]

Mhm pretty nice knowing she keeps up for you guys

[coarse ledge]

You know what i think is funny in companions

Summons vallue goes higher the longer you hold on to them

Like drawing for a 1/5 working hero in a faction trishea. Is pretty dumb

When there can be 4+ viables this year

The longer you hold the higher the vallue

[full jay]

kinda, but kinda not - because if you can use this summons to gain an advantage for more summons (f.e. arena ranking/dream realm ranking) you have to atleast invest a bit of the summons

but aslong as you reach arena top 100 and dream top 30, I believe you could hold onto

[half sapphire]

Is it good to choose wish for summon than resource bc of the dims event?

In alliance contest

[tiny saffron]

no

resource best value there

[half sapphire]

Okee thnks

[arctic harness]

Guys i have a question, right now i have 15 dim spirits i can A5 marci or A0 laios, what do you think its the best choice as f2p

I think by the end of the event i can do around 300 to 400 more pulls

[arctic harness]

Also thoughts about next si30, im thinking bedo or trish

[frank thistle]

Does anyone has Soul Hound in Zero Limit? Any suggestions?

[jagged tusk]

Same q

[coarse ledge]

What is that, where

I remember hound is hardest to clear

Zero límit isnt the guild event?

[jagged tusk]

Alliance contest

[frank thistle]

This guy, I can’t catch how other players with same heroes but weaker much higher in rank

[coarse ledge]

Yeah i was thinking about hin i can't remember how to clear him, just leave the fight idle 23 hours till you find solve

For burning beast i do this tho its diferent

[frank thistle]

Burning beast easiest boss for me)))

[coarse ledge]

Yea i got lucky had 2x beast this is round no demon ez clear

[dusty yew]

Is it worth it to max out the new dimensionals

[rigid sierra]

Is there any tierlist ?

Like is it good or no?

[burnt moss]

If only we pinned useful information to the questions channel

[tiny saffron]

thats a fodder, useless heroes that are sacrificed for ascension. There should be a tier list in pins

[rigid sierra]

Ah i didnt know thats a fodder

[winged thunder]

can I use same copy of colab hero to ascend or only dimension

[frank thistle]

only dim spirit

[winged thunder]

thanks

[burnt moss]

the same copy of a collab hero becomes a spirit

[high kestrel]

This bos on my server
Alliance contest, zero limit

[frank thistle]

lucky)

[high kestrel]

Thats boss easy?

I mean easier then other?

[frank thistle]

easer then Soul Hound

[high kestrel]

What trick for soul hound?

[frank thistle]

instant revival 10 times per battle for the entire team.

😂 😂 😂 😂

[dim lance]

Should I feed characters like seirus into someone to get Asolise

I've honestly never used him or seen someone use him

Nemora aswell, are there any point in keeping them?

[arctic harness]

Need some advice please

[burnt moss]

At some point you will ascend them so be sparing. Seirus is the easiest to throw away though

[mighty geyser]

Which faction should i select as a newbie for the summoning card?

[split echo]

Any ascending guide to dungeon meshi heroes? What path should I follow

[craggy moth]

Are important this dimensionals? If you need both ascent for doing thinks (very hard as f2p) maybe the best option it's save sporits for the Next ones?

[dim lance]

Wilder

[mighty geyser]

Thats best comp in Companions?

[dim lance]

Uhh basically

[mighty geyser]

Sure ty!

[tiny saffron]

no, not necessary and won't affect your progress

[mighty geyser]

Theres an updated tier list?

[tiny saffron]

wilder > lb > gb > mauler

[tiny saffron]

there should be in pins

[mighty geyser]

ok ty

i found it

[scarlet latch]

I have 125 stargazer ticket, should i pull talene or just wait other h/c?

[high kestrel]

Still 21 days, can i up my laios to asended?

[tiny saffron]

that's your decision, me personally i use all my stargaze as it gives a lot of resources (emblems, dust, hero cards, etc.) One of the reasons why i'm ahead of most f2ps and low spenders in progress.
You can wait for god knows when a good celehypo comes though. If it ever releases then i won't be able to get it but progress wise it's worth it for me.
Just do what you want and think is best for you, no set playstyle or it won't be fun

Most people here would recommend to save all of them though

[mighty geyser]

Do i need a friend for progressing faster?

[tiny saffron]

yes

[mighty geyser]

ah

[dim lance]

You'll be able to fly through the fights if you find someone with reliable characters. I recommending finding someone with shemira or mishka. They are quite reliable in story mode

[tiny saffron]

Just join the top guild and duo with the whales

[dim lance]

Isn't there a mechanic that prevents companionship if a person is too far away from a stage

[tiny saffron]

is there? i haven't seen it

[dim lance]

Im not sure if it applies in the context of guilds though

[scarlet latch]

progress is not a problem for me, i think i have good unit as f2p, maybe i will pull talene, beside, they will add swap unit again in the future just like classic one but we don't know when, thanks for the reply

[clever sphinx]

Do I need Niru? Would I ever need him or can I use him as fodder? And the other heroes I have multiple copies of in the screenshot. O:

[marble fractal]

Is that tier list correct guys?

[weary pumice]

checked pinned forever tier list I reckon

Cecilia is defs not in great tier, I'd personally move up crassio, hodgkin

[burnt moss]

This tier list doesn't explain who is an ascension priority. Warek is great but you should not prioritize ascending them

[split echo]

ascend both marcille and laios to a1 or just push one of them to a5?

[shrewd sail]

As a f2p what's the recommended move here with 20 souls.

[tiny saffron]

those are fodders.. Legendary tier heroes are fodders

[clever sphinx]

Ah understood! Tys

[tiny saffron]

its not updated and not too accurate, the wishlist guide in pins might be better

[marble fractal]

Thanks a mil 🙏

[high kestrel]

Marcill its much damage if u have solid tank, albedo can buff your skill dim teamate with her signature item, depends what u need

[pearl light]

When do new servers usually drop?

[burnt moss]

Every two days. Check at reset

[pearl light]

Oh ok

[sonic matrix]

Should I still have twins here even tho I'll get a copy of her for free?

[burnt moss]

No

[sonic matrix]

Who should I put here

[robust magnet]

What is min invest in marceille?

[burnt moss]

If you already have Mortas then nobody for now

[tiny saffron]

5 star

[vague stream]

If i have 3* shaltear, 13 dimensional spirit. Who should i go for

[tiny saffron]

23 for 5 star, and they need both max or 3laios to be good

[vague stream]

Laios and marc needs 5*?

what about albedo and ainz? Or is worth just going for 5* shal

[tiny saffron]

i'd say ainz bedo is better than them

[rigid sierra]

Can someone help me how to complete this one? Only starstone i dont have

[vague stream]

Gotcha. Ill prob wait bit a longer. But so far ainz and albedo is better? If so, how much star should i go for?

[tiny saffron]

same, 5 ainz and 3 albedo

[vague stream]

Gotcha 5* ainz and 3* albedo

[tiny saffron]

i forgot, there should be something below that needs to be clicked

[rigid sierra]

Ahh thxx

So after you got lamp from lava , you should go to the camp

[weary pumice]

marci laios shts on ainz bedo in arena

[rough moon]

Is this hero lineup looking better for 3 days? (I restarted on another server since I messed up my first account)

The hypogean was random from the all hero summons I didn’t pick him

His ability to restart the battle when you lose (him being the last one left) is slightly handy when you run into bad luck on campaigns

[tiny saffron]

yes, its too early though, you need to summon more. And you are behind the martial rating

[rough moon]

How do you get further?

[kindred ether]

Should I

[tiny saffron]

progress in campaign and don't forget forked fate, its very important

[rough moon]

Yeah I'm working on it, but I haven't been able to find a stronger companion

I also just don't have a very good team yet

[tiny saffron]

if youre willing to gamble duh

[tiny saffron]

join top guild

[rough moon]

Last account I got Rosaline early and she helped immensely

But this account no dice

[rough moon]

Would they even let me in?

I don't plan on spending money on this game

[tiny saffron]

if they have slot and you tell them you're active they might. People there will quit sooner or later so reserve a spot

[rough moon]

Hm okay

[kindred ether]

I’m a gambler

[obtuse dove]

[clever sphinx]

is there like a guide to formations? Im just placing my heroes casually and praying it works

[tiny saffron]

[tiny saffron]

formation tab

[high kestrel]

Can someone help me the best line up for this boss?

[honest field]

Other than Rowan which other hero seems unkllable against this thing?

[rigid sierra]

As new acc, what should i get first and focus up with in stargazing?

[tiny saffron]

1 mortas copy

[burnt moss]

Are new servers still getting free twins

[rigid sierra]

How about telene?

[burnt moss]

If you're not a whale then Talene is unnecessary to gaze for

[rigid sierra]

Yes free at 7 days

[burnt moss]

Then 1 Mortas is all you need

[rigid sierra]

All in or just 1 copy?

[burnt moss]

1 Mortas means 1 copy

[rigid sierra]

Ahh

and after that?

is there any spesific celes/hypo that we should build?

[tiny saffron]

none

[hearty rain]

Any you guys would recommend?

[tiny saffron]

for?

[burnt moss]

For any

[tiny saffron]

uninstall

[hearty rain]

To stargaze after mortas ^

[tiny saffron]

theres no one worth yet

[hearty rain]

.-.

So I just save.?

[burnt moss]

Yes

[tiny saffron]

.

[burnt moss]

It's gacha. Any gacha requires you to save something for a long time

[tiny saffron]

i use mine on 4f, not advisable

[burnt moss]

Takes a year to get enough gazers to max out a celehypo. Why start what you can't finish. Just save

You can prioritize short term gains to get ahead now but it leaves you vulnerable in the future

[honest bear]

Does anyone know if both players can get points from Zero Limit in Alliance Contest like you can with Arena?

[tiny saffron]

why not

[honest bear]

I was under the impression that only the highest score was used in the points tally.

So you can? It's confirmed?

[burnt moss]

Arena and zero limit are the ones both can join

The others only one can do

[honest bear]

Cool! Thanks ianne and Toast!

[tiny saffron]

you type so formal lol

[honest bear]

uh yeah, I read a lot, so I kinda type like the stuff I read

[burnt moss]

Would you rather they say something like "u can both do those modes no cap? Bussin fr fr on God"

[tiny saffron]

ohh

[honest bear]

I'd have a hard time understanding that, tbh Toast 😂

[tiny saffron]

it just kinda gives a serious vibes nvm me jaja

[honest bear]

nah, you're alright, you're just making an observation 👍

it's kinda funny really

[tiny saffron]

[tidal needle]

up to what point should I build my Marcille and Laios?

[tiny saffron]

5+3 or neither

[tidal needle]

uh sorry but what does that mean?

currently they are at Ascended and laios + marcille sig at 1 (still not know at what level should make them so keeping the resources)

[tiny saffron]

5 star, 3 laios

They both need +20 atleast

[obtuse dove]

get your Albedo to Mythic SI20 and save the rest of dim spirits for future op dim heroes. That is my advice

[tidal needle]

I see, long way to go then hopefully I can reach that before the dimensional resources summon end. As for the sig, I should have enough to get both to 20. But in case I can't get both Marcille to 5 and Laios to 3 star at the same time, who should I prioritize leveling first and who should I leave at Ascended? Marcille or Laios?

[tiny saffron]

honestly, they kinda ass without each other so thats a hard question, Laios is more flexible but very squishy so he's kinda useless if he can't ult so 5 star will really help him. Marcille is a good damage dealer but she needs laios to be better. I see more people recommending marcille if only 1 though

[shrewd sail]

alright

[tidal needle]

got it, so Marcille to 5 star, and Laios ascended but 5 star if I have some time and summon left.

thanks

[tiny saffron]

finally someone with eyes

[tiny saffron]

Any info on who's the next 4f in destiny summons with zaphrael?

[frank thistle]

These destiny summons(dims) will last a month, not 2 weeks, so nothing will change with the release of Zaphrael.

[tiny saffron]

last time there was 4f while overlord collab was happening, maybe because of the extension though

[coarse ledge]

Hi chat is me again

Thoughts on trishea m+ +1copy vs 1* marci si1-20 progression?

Trish is stuck but could she be relevant at 20 maybe 30 mythic? I was going for marci cuz new hero hype

But again using a si1 m+ trishea is like more depressing than just a m+

[burnt moss]

You shouldn't ever upgrade a hero to M+. It just locks you in to a hero you might not see another copy of for a very long time

getting M for the SI is fine

[coarse ledge]

Well its fine tho i got most relevant units and not chasing solice stars

And m+ better than e for boss dmg

Think i should 10-20 her befor marci tho?

Is what im debating myself

Cuz if i commit to 20ing marci trishea is out for long

[burnt moss]

how many more copies of trish do you need to ascend

[coarse ledge]

3

And im like missing them amazingly

I was hoarding bit while ago, threw like 600 summons, not 1 trish

Shouldve got her when she was in destiny

[burnt moss]

is there no one else you can bring to SI 20? A1 marci and M trish just aren't that worth it

[coarse ledge]

Oh yea marci is more of a personal

Let me see if i got a ss sec i went classic, but could be a better one

[burnt moss]

I invested in trish's SI on my new account but that's because it's a new account where trish is one of the only options I can invest in

[coarse ledge]

There it is, and under courner is eiron

I Guess i could shemira or daimon :/

[wide sequoia]

What should I do with 34 souls ?

[coarse ledge]

26 is A marci and bedo you get 4 stars for them or start laios

Could do like 1 marci 1 bedo start laios

Or 3* 1*- 1* 3*

[burnt moss]

Gwyneth to SI20 is valuable

But you can always try to get a5 marci and invest in her

[coarse ledge]

I'm tempted to 5* 30 marci yeah, the 30 albedo is recent and was a preemptive to maybe commiting to marci

[coarse ledge]

Btw why does the sorting in the courner not work like at all? None of the categories sorts properly, or it broke for me. Thats what the ss was for xD

Toggled in Sis and my 30s are randomly in the middle

[autumn orchid]

before you have the upgraded crystal at lvl 360, your 5 crystal heroes are always at the top row

if you take that in consideration everything is sorted as it should

[wide sequoia]

I was thinking of A5 marci and mythic plus laios ?

[coarse ledge]

Oh you are right, champ

[coarse ledge]

I would try for maybe mythic albedo then, you can still keep summoning

Thing is albedo is huge dim enabler team should be better with her. Idk tho just my opinion

[wide sequoia]

Maybe I do mythic bedo and laios and rest on marci

If it's for campaign rn I can already have si30 bedo from my duo

[coarse ledge]

Yea you probably fine putting albedo on hold then

[autumn orchid]

there's still FF, towers, arena and maybe even dream realm too now that we have marcille

[wide sequoia]

So this is better then if I want progress everywhere ?

[tiny saffron]

you never needed any of them in the first place, but yes

[craggy moth]

How Manu Spirit you need to upgrade from E to A5 dimensional?

[burnt moss]

23

[white junco]

i think my damage rating is off and idk how to fix it. i should be higher than 43M

[tiny saffron]

wdym why should it be higher?

[white junco]

i was at 43M and i just made rowan from 2* to 5* and mishka from 3* to 5* and just went up a chapter and it didn’t go up

started at 43 and after everything i was still 43

[tiny saffron]

thats not much increase, and you shouldnt base your strength on that. The more heroes you have the higher it will be, including fodders. And levels will make it higher

and the copies you used for the stars had rating, so when you used them, it broke even with the increase

[wide sequoia]

Who should I si 20 and 30 (I can do 2 si20 and 1 30)

[tiny saffron]

gwyn, rosa

[wide sequoia]

No dims ? Bedo marci laios ?

[tiny saffron]

oh then do them then

gwyn rosa is solise level, idk about those dims

[burnt moss]

bedo 30 is probably the priority with marci 20 being next if you wanted to make your dim team

[wide sequoia]

Ok thanks 😁

If I had more I would definitely do gwyn 20, she is super strong

[wide sequoia]

Already very happy with the dim team plus talene

[tiny saffron]

[high kestrel]

@burnt moss should i up laios until A or keep?

[compact sapphire]

Who do yall think I should upgrade SI on first

I can probably get marci to a5 by the end of the event

[silver saffron]

Should I summon for one of them, or swap the pulls for 60 Elite Stones in hopes to get something better? Shemira is currently E+, brutus dont have him, grezul E.

[tiny saffron]

trish +20

[tiny saffron]

shem

[sonic matrix]

So..should I just keep this the way it is
Also should I change wishlist from normal banner.
And the new light bearer hero good?

[cloud sky]

How do i get this one on top lit up?

[tiny saffron]

one copy buffer

[tiny saffron]

umm use that rail to move it?

[sonic matrix]

I have two mortas
I got lucky ^

[tiny saffron]

i meant the new lb

[sonic matrix]

Ah ok
Should I change wishlist to put her?

[sonic matrix]

Also wanna ask
As a casual player
How many dimensional spirit is enough

I'm not trying to play this game THAT seriously

[tiny saffron]

yes you can, though i dont think shes better than any of the one on wishlist guide so 1 copy then change back

[tiny saffron]

5 star is 23 or 24

[sonic matrix]

I mean
Do u actually need that many

Whats the minimum investment

[tiny saffron]

that

[sonic matrix]

No way

Are they considered useless if I have them upgraded a bit less

[tiny saffron]

yes

[obtuse dove]

1 base character + 23 spirits for A5

[sonic matrix]

Sad

[tiny saffron]

• need both of them

[cloud sky]

Thanks

[tiny saffron]

thats why they not worth it for f2ps, not even that strong

[obtuse dove]

dim heroes are expensive, as f2p, it's gonna break your heart if the one u invested turn out to be a flop.

So be sure with your investment. Shalltears (A3-5) and Albedo (Mythic-A3) are safe choices.

[sonic matrix]

This game

🤡

[obtuse dove]

[tiny saffron]

someone ask questions pls i need exp

[sonic matrix]

How was your day

Real (I'm a dude)

[tiny saffron]

oh nsfw server

[tiny saffron]

rightt

[cloud sky]

So im trying to follow the beginners guide in faq but the wishlist has heroes that arent even available? Any help in that?

[tiny saffron]

thats for classic

go to pins here

[cloud sky]

I cant seem to find the hero list to get to ascended first in the pin