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It should be time to finish ainz too
So its 3 dims to ascend ideally
Gonna be rough
Dimensional heroes can only be upgraded with spirits? Dupes don’t work?
duplicates will be counted as dim spirit
Dupes turn into spirits
Gotcha. Thanks
just get her to a3 if ur f2p
Where should I go from here (f2p) (in chapter 22)
A5 not very helpful?
yes
K
The a5 "life drain" on a tank is a meme
Based on the Arena of Trails should I focus ascending Marcille?
Wait gwyen or go belinda?
Okay to spend all dim scrolls on dim banner right now? Which dim hero to grab first from chest?
You can spend on the banner but wait on using the spirits
Should i get shal to 3*, or get albedo up or work on the new dimen?
aight thanks
XD, she can wait
Going to be waiting until the next game releases
Wild
Ascend shalltear or upgrade the new dim?
shalltear 3-5
Should i pick marcille or laios first?
laios should be better for f2p, though i dont see them being that good, or its just me
Game changer for me 
I feel like Laios's debuff and the ultimate just completely disabling the enemy team is pretty good
Alright thanks y'all 
after 5 stars, can we use them as fodder or save for trasncended?
aight thanks, yea i changed from the WL they just keep coming from the wilder cards LOL
@burnt moss i have question, in faction tower we got faction card in 120 and 140, after that we will get faction card again? Or only in floor 120 and 140?
You'll get more eventually. Idk when.
Lets say wilders tower, how much floor u hit?
I'm only on 281
do you mean fodders?
Yeah like wilders card fooder
On floor 140 we got 24 card
no more of those past 200
My hope just gone 
I wonder if can get more on 220 and 240 i can get 4 asended on wilderns

is new dimensional good or should I just max ainz? (I already nax shaltear and albedo)
mythic gear dropping in ch31 or clear ch31
I guess no, everything is better then Ainz. If you have Shal, Albedo, Arthur and 2 new dims at A5, yes, you can go Ainz))
From 32 100%, 31 haven't seen
Is having raine game breaking? Want to summon now or wait until raine goes into wishlist
darn aight thanks
no
Who should i chose?
Marci
guys should i upgrade albedo or marci rn?
I have Shalltear and Albedo 3 star, who should I get of the new 2 dimensionals? And how strong of a unit would they be
Marci is not that bad
That doesn't sound that convincing
If getting them won't make a big difference then I'd prob rather save for the next one
If you can build them, build them
If not take as many spirits as you can out of this event
they aren't that good based on what i see for now, just another ainz bedo
Not even close
Both Marci and Laios are very good together
okay
My sha is A3 and Bedo A
I have enough spirit to get them both to 5 stars
Orrr enough spirits to get marci to A and later i can get Sha to A5
Which one should be priority
who do i gaze for next?
shell A3, Albedo M Si30 for f2p
I mean they alrdy are A3 shell and A bedo "not si30 tho ill get to that"
What do i do with the spirits den
Marci? Ainz? "Both are elite rn"
I bet Marci, more useful
Aight den
Any tips for the new dimensionals, i have not any other dimensionals so which one should i upgrade first and should i spend destiny scrolls for dimensionals destiny pulls?
max them both)
is it better to save dimensional spirits for future events or upgrade marci? he is the only dimensional hero i have
Shall I build Marci or Albedo first
did some testings on mythic and a1 ++ seperated use case
do laios first if you cant afford both
unlock both...
if you're greedy you can go for marci and get laios from a duo, but for other modes indenpendendly laios is better
so far no early game testing tho - were on ch41 and on tower 601+
also tested them with albedo without and with rowan and such
marci deals a lot of damage even on mythic and +0 aslong as she gets her energy through laios
her a1 significantly and her +20 made her significantly better
didnt notice a lot of difference on laios because he either died or was survived by another unit doing a lot of cc - because well ch41 and kt600+ are kinda hard
@rich cape for your tierlist fyi
laios did some good healing on pvp battles in arena in the dim team tho
and marci maxed out it prob the next ss tier pvp hero
marci and laios need each other in duo for pvp and other stuff too btw.
marci is also good on dream outdamaging ainz
Am sitting on these dim do you think i should upgrade shaltear or upgrade the new heroes
these heroes basically need each other, and shalltear is probably the best dimensional hero that we still have
would say shall for sure, so good for everything atm
forked fate, campaign, pvp ...
Wow, nice dmg
marci is really vulnerable and kinda dies very fast
and laios is utility
pre 321 which really surprised me
The thing is i can use my duo s shaltear (ik that i can also use a duo’s new heroes etc ) but it s super hard choice
shalltear ofc
im new player, how do i get shalltear?
atm u dont
no chance at this moment
classic has a system like garrison, companions has no such thing yet
I can prob push something else with shaltear just like i did with ainz and albedo / sexond dim should be merc or lei
9 spirit in 390 scrolls -.- It looks like I only can take one xDD
does dim hero work the same like in classic? link to non-dim hero?
9 in 390 is good
thankyou
nop, you need to use spirits for upgrade, like fusions
(milestones)
nope, you should collect spirit souls, to ascend
thanks
soo, for f2p, Do you think the mage is better? I can get one Asc and SI30
they need each other, I don't think so
is there any guide on destiny summon? like do i need to save certain amount before i pull?
so you'd prob want a mythic laios atleast and a5 marci
not really if a broken hero releases like trishea u pull and get some milestones
or if dims release u pull
otherwise u wait
you just dont use divinity scrolls early on, you can always wait for others to build a hero and see how it performs on companions
so if ur unsure just wait 2-3 days
u dont need to rush and build marci or laios right now
so for now, i pull the dim destiny summon?
yep
thankyouuuu
marci seems better on paper but does not perform at all without laios
Im still thinking about priority, in this batch Im already made Albedo M, Marcie A3 (Si20). And now Im thinking between Marcie A5 and Lai M+ or Marci A3 + Loi A3? Whats your thoughts guys?
depends where you're at, laios a1 could make a significant difference, great debuff
though i cant tell on ch41+ / kt600+ because he is no dmg dealer and not very survivable at these stages pre a5
did some tests on mythic +0, a1 +10, a3 +20 and a5 +30
ch 39 now
kk then I'll make Marice A3 & Lai A1+
I'd wait
marcie a5 is huge for her survivability
banner goes for atleast 27 days
if you'd have to bite the bullet for now I'd say marci a5
for teamate in front or i miss something?
i use laios in the back middle
ok, looks like i should wait 😄
pre a5 not that survivable and even on a5 he kinda has better aoe if hes in the middle
I'd say so
he? lai? or we're talking about marci
I tested marci, btw she looks good with Albedo, Lyca, Nevanthi, aSolice team))
both, but in that case lai isnt as survivable
marci is not survivable at all, if a fly hits her she kinda dies
A3*^
I can go A5 who should i build?
the banner is atleast 27days... if you can get more I'd for now say get
laios mythic and if posslbe marci a5 (they need each other)
if you need/can build more independent dims like arthur or shalltear, they're probably better to max for now
marci is a good carry, aslong as she has laios - they're a forced pair, you need to build both
Sadly 144 not have overload collab
I have 14 spirit souls rn and I have no other dimensional heroes, what route should I follow for marci and laios?
I only got like 70 dim scrolls, should i pull or no?
I’ll look at them this week
intristingly enough i got marci to work without laios
was against a grezhul though
so enemy summoner and she can go brr without laios
?
Also which character are fodder other than blue ones?
thats like one soul
Can i use gems for summoning there?
yes
So i got like 87k
@full jay who should i select for stargazer hero after i got twins and mortas? is it the best to go for more talene instead of elite?
Anyone knows what to do with duplicate dimensional heroes😂😅
I mean you'd need 1200sg cards to max a hero out on avg.
Atm Talene is probably the best because she is the most flexible + goas towards unlocking aTalene
Talene and Flora will be always good because of forked fate.
Mythic Mehira has sometimes good usecases if you can afford to invest in her +30
or waiting for a real long lasting hero to release is the other way to go
thank you sir
Mira is not a good option?
you picked Mira as your choice in stargazing room?
Not yet i was thinking about it
I only put mortas and got one copy and i am not sure who to put next
good, because that would be suicidal if you stargaze her. ONLY Stargaze Celestials and Hypogeans. The rest, dont.
no Stargazing anything but celestial and hypogeans as Melchior said is a waste.
Okay thanks guys
Should i ascend lyca first or mythic mishka?
misha in your situation:) Lyca late hero
Trishea >> Misha >> Lyca
@full jay from your testing, does Marci do well even without Laois? I’m gonna build both, but wasn’t too sure on who to start with
I believe solo marci to be "fine" - she is way slower tho and no really special if shes not up against some crazy Summoner like aSolise, Grezhul or Numisu
on my f2p I've decided to build her and am currently testing
but the save bet would be to see how other f2ps perform that build laios
I'm unsure both need the right setup, laios is as a melee debuff/healer/crowd controller kinda "vulnerable"
While marci is in the worst case just a budget dps that needs frontline to cast
or a nieche mage that casts a lot when an enemy summoner is there
as a forced pair they're pretty good but without albedo still weak and even with albedo in ch41 is a a5, +25 laios still kinda "weak" because he just dies, his job is to stay as long as possible alive to cast a bit
so might just a be a thing if you have all 4 of them to add something like salaki, numisu - or w/e healer you have leftover to make laios survive a bit longer
for new players its an even weirder spot because u dont want a5 marci to be with other cheat deaths like talene or mira (that want to be triggerd)
so its even harder to get a 3-2 team to work
Nev could be solid, but I didn’t want to take her off wilder team
same, i think nev + wilders perform to well, buffing aSolise and Mishka
Maybe Rowan and Talene?
Is there any guide for total beginners ?
pins, first one
Guys, how long do you have to use diamonds to pull with normal scrolls?
What is SI?
signature item
what is signature item? I'm not sure that I've opened it
mythic hero
Time Chest is completely random right? there is no secret trick or anything?
as far as we're aware yes
32 Spirits..whom to build? Guess ill have to wait for an update to tierlist (?)
Actually time chests aren't random. They're coded to specifically screw me over.
How many spirits are needed to get a dim from E to a5?
i feel the same XD
was told 23
I'd atleast do albedo to mythic, that'd be like 6 more souls.
and possibly marci a5, but waiting is probably the right way.
23 is correct
you need the hero, and 13 souls till a0, and 10 more till a5
None new hero question 😉 I’m a few off from being able to transcend heroes and wanted to know who y’all recommend for that first one? Also are spirits needed to transcend dimensional heroes since E+ copies are used to transcend 4f heroes ?
Hi guys, I’m returning after a year… would it be better to start a new account or keep the progress?
wait, there is something about classig and companions. Can someone provide a video or a quick guide? That's new!
I don't need to be a classic player to tell you a year off means you're screwed
What is the difference between classic and companions?
So it's "easier"? Thanks btw! I will start over on companions then
It will feel like it's in beta compared to classic that is for sure
But definitely less complicated
thanks for taking the time to answer, ik this has been an often asked question today, tho ofc there is no "final" opinion on this yet
In your opinion, how important is a3/a5 albedo compared to m albedo?
a5 is irrelevant and just a nice to gain the stats
a3 is sometimes really good after you got burst damage of to clear units with because its cc immunity and invulnerability + a slight bit of damage
but she's mainly there for the +30
cheers! I'll do m first and check how far i should get laios/marci when an opinion on those formulates
Is there a generic line ups somewhere?
Is the whislist working on this mode?
After 60 summons and complete chapter 3 or 4
Nara or hodgkins
how i can get shalltear on a new server?
^
@digital swallow
Oh that is not good but thx
Hi, i have like 9 cosmic food, whichcosmic hero shouldi focus on ? (i have ainz a bit started)
9 isn't much at all unfortunately. These heroes definitely want a lot more.
Shalltear will be worth it and albedo only needs 7 but albedo also wants you to have 2 other dimensional heroes made
But for Marcille and laios I would just save rather than put them to mythic
i have like 20 spirits and maxed out shaltear...who should i focus on now(im F2P so no arthur)
its because i used 3 or 4 of them on my early game to ainz
i heard ainz is top tier,its not the one to cosu on ? (i dotn have shalltear/albedo)
What's rough about this is that Marci really wants Laios so these dims are 2x more expensive to build than shalltear
Wait you don't have shalltear or albedo? You used all your chests on dupes for ainz?
i think yes,i had no clue early game
no i have all dims exept arthur
Who should I mythic first healer or Lyca?
i just have a 5star shall
ah sry XD
Can I get a quick answer from anyone?
Honestly I had to use 34 spirits for a3 Marci and a1 Laios and I still feel like they're just barely enough to be worth it
would say lyca
Thx u
If I had 20 spirits I don't think I'd start building Marci and laios
but i'm not the best for this answer, i just heard is better to priorise dps than support
you talked to me ?
Should I focus this since it’s my first mythic?
then who
No I'm talking to the person who said they had 20 spirits not 9
Or is it better to wait and spread the upgrades?
albedo?
i pref not answering for this

Do you have Ainz and shalltear built?
No. Only get the first level activated and save mats for a better hero to all in on
just shalltear
Okie
ains is elite
Albedo wants a minimum of 2 other dims built
so do i max ainz or i just keep them ?
explain pls. she really only cares about ainz from what her skills call for
Read her signature item
For your situation it's very awkward. I'd prioritize long term gains over the short term which means saving them
that’s fair but she still has a ton of value for someone who would only have ainz
Well it's going to be about using your limited resources and setting up for the long term
If you can't build a hero properly and end up with a bunch of half built heroes then you're screwing yourself over in the long run
ty!
Future dimensionals have the potential to be power crept over old ones
So eventually you may find that your half built dimensional is no longer worth it
And you'll have wasted your spirits on short term gains
What do ppl use hodgkin for
the 20% atk/def buff when he places hin achor 
Marcille or laios first?
I'd go for aBrutus
I must've missed that when reading his skills wtf
Which skill is that
Oh cool tysm
Hello! How can i change my name?
Hey noob here should I restart or nah
It’s 159
Looks like you haven't done that many pulls
Nah I started like yesterday
You can roll an account on 160 and see if you do better
Will do
I could've sworn 160 was open yesterday
I'd keep both accounts going until I can't be bothered to run two accounts and go with whichever is doing better
And I just go off whoever is in the noob guide
Yes. How your dimensional spirits roll and whether or not you get a lot of Trish dupes will be big factors
But it seems like the amount of dimensional spirits you need to build Marcille and laios is insane
I don't know if a fresh server has enough to do it f2p
I'm on 157 and still very hesitant to use my spirits
On 115 though I have enough to make a plan for them
is it worth to develop ainz or focus on the new dims (working on albedos SI also)
With 0 spirits?
10 spirits rn
For the short term I'd say Ainz A1/A3. For the long term I'd say save the spirits.
I highly doubt you'll have enough spirits to build Marcille and laios properly
And on the next event where we can pull for spirits we may have better heroes than Marcille and laios
I think Marci is just crippled without Laios and is an A-/B+ tier hero at best which isn't the best use of dimensional spirits
thanks for explaining! ill save the spirits i think
Is there a way to get albedo etc?
Not if you don't already own them
Sad
I think if new servers started with albedo/shalltear/Ainz on top of the two new dims it'd be an awful time
Already too few resources to work with
Omg tysm
Idk her damage seems to be top tier
Even on her own
She's a glass cannon
But a glass cannon that has half her damage without Laios
She's useful in DR and GH but she's not going to outdo the usual 4f DPS for it
Basically ainz that needs albedo
Yeah. I mean Ainz needs a good tank as well but at least ainz can use a different tank
On my 157 alt I went all in on Marci since I am going to lose in DR without it but
It feels awful
Who to sig 30? Anyone else other than laios or ainz? Got ainz to 27
What’s dr? I got Marci to 2 star and laios to 5 star feel like I’m doing good
Dream realms
Oh dang
I'm going with 5/1 Marci Laios
I wasted on ainz lol
Shall see how it goes
Yeah Ainz can be left at +20
But the sig 30 isnt bad
Don't use red emblems unless you can go straight to 30. Plans can change
Dang I wish I could reset it lol
For any emblems really
He basically one shots with his ultimate so I was like why not
How many do u need? Should I just finish ainz?
I don't know what it is from 27 but the total is 300
I link 130, 20 40s and a 50
who should I pick for the new hero
On my new account I went in on Marci. It doesn't feel good but I lose out on dream realms otherwise
I almost feel like I'd rather have done regular tavern instead of investing in marci
Marci without Laios just feels like a very expensive to build gwyn
#1 marci hater
I went in on Marci on my account where I had 35 spirits
I'm fine with her with investment
Too soon to be asking who should be picked between the two to build?
I'm thinking that if you can only build one then it might be a bait
But on my alt I'm building just marci
neither, they wont affect your progress imo
unless you can build both
I use all my destiny scroll on the new portal ?
How old is the account
If you can't get 38 spirits then I wouldn't build the new heroes I don't think. With the free spirits accounted for you'd need roughly 12-1300 pulls and that would get you a5 Marcille and a1 Laios
If you can't get all of those spirits then I would do 300 pulls just to get some spirits for the next dimensional event and stop
Should i A5 marci or go laios? @burnt moss
A1 Laios I believe is 15 spirits
Which I believe is preferred if you can
I think you might make it by the end of the event
And then you can probably a5 marci
Half on Laios
Okey
But when you do the pulls needed for A1 Laios you'll have a 2nd full set
Idk how much diamond i got until last day
I think you might be able to save 300 pulls. But who knows
Okay thx
Once you get to 300 you might also be close enough to pity for the next spirit so you can track that too. Pity is 60 pulls
So if you're at 50 pity by the time you get to 300 then single draw until the next spirit
Eh if you put special symbols as name of guild you cant use search function for it?
Most people don't search for guilds through that method anyway. They just look at the top guilds
You can tap the guild on someones profile to bring up their guild and go to the guild hall
Once you get to guild hall you can apply
Thanks!
Is there an idea of wich is better to ascend first marci or laios yet?
Do you need both for them to work or can do like marci>ainz> maybe laios
Also could si30 one so how's the benchmarks looking does marci need si30 5*?
Imma sacrifice respen n seirus for asolise, tasi or eironn? Tasi 2star eironn 5star
You are just 2 e+ off, imo you waited this far just wait a little longer dont sacrifice anything
I guess so 😭😭 but question still stands
I'd eat Seirus and Nemora. They're not very useful, and you won't build them any time soon, unless you whale on scrolls big time.
I'd keep Respen as you're 8th Wilder if you don't have another in the pipeline.
He can do ok damage at least.
I would build Tasi before Eironn because she survives better than Eironn and has a lot of useful CC.
How many 5 stars to get transcendeds?
25 5 star heroes to unlock T1
25 T1 to unlock T2
Thats not too bad actually, could be doable in like 2 years f2p
Yeah, maybe even in a bit less time. 🙂
I used the extra e+ copy of mishka i had tho xD have none but an extra e+ shem
I see what you're saying. Yeah, I guess we do have to kind of play in a focused way to get heroes to T.
can i retrigger a currency deal i missed yesterday via support?
Who better between turttle man and oku? Iam on stage 30rn
Ah ok thanks
Goku
My friends said oku not good he prefer turttle man
Iam confused hahaha
Gorvo is not bad, but I think most would agree Oku is better.
whenever in doubt
check this
Your friend probably doesnt play companions but classic where oku underperforms
which one should i choose
Wait for a few more days and get them both at the same time. 😄
cant summon wilder anymore, which faction to card from get all heroes? ill still card wilders tho
should i try to go mythic mira, daimon or shemira in this case? i’m stuck at chapter 20 with lightbearers and need some graveborn team
actually there is a button there where it shows the remaining heroes you can get from there
mira doesnt work till a1 +20
they all seem... meh save for maybe salaki LOL
so it all comes down to either front daimon or dps shemira? or does daimon need a lot of investment?
yup i did maulers first too
daimon cant front, he works at mythic on early below chap 20, idk at 20+. I'd do shemira since you'd need her for dream realm as main dmg early and bosses
thank you sir, bless you with lots of dim spirits
not gonna pull for them but tnx sis
Mira
Alright it's been a few days
Whats the situation looking like for the 2 new dimensionals? Worth it? If so which one and how to play them?
depends on your box and priorities
but usally for what we have right now yea
shes great in everything
I think si30 merci and low invest laio sounds about right
Iperx my personal Guide
Ill Show u my heros u Tell me
mhm on mythic+ might be a bit early, like her a1, a3 and a5 are all good boosts and pre that going up to +30 wont do that much aswell
Yh shes obv nr 1 prio Right now
ainz +20/+30 can still be pretty good
(ur missing a few pieces for invade comp, but crassio +30 is used a lot aswell, like if u get f.e. skregg and crassio to a5)
marcille +30 is also pretty strong
and ur missing some key +20s like ainz > talene > gwyneth > daimon
really depends on what you can and want to do since there are multiple right options
but if you pull a lot of trisheas or can somehow force her, +30 on her is the right call
otherwise I'd go as far and say that I enjoy marcille and amd using her sometimes solo... but espacially with laios, if you have the time to build laios up, then it'll be her.
I dont think i will have the time
Currently at 2dims in the bag
If you like add me im Cayan from S4
So wait to See if i get trish or laios built faster?
Yea kinda
Who Are My Next goals regarding si10 and 20?
+20s (marcielle) > ainz > talene > gwyneth > daimon
+10 (marcielle) > talene > silas > nevanthi > crassio
was eating^^
So it this about right ?
Marci>albedo>laios>ainz
Or
Marci>laios>albedo>ainz
In a general case, not just SI
Marci needs laios but you don't have to max Laios before moving to albedo M
And ainz last ?
Should I invest in new dimension hero or albedo?
Maybe. Either that or work on Ainz first as it's lower investment than having to build Marci and laios since they're one hero split into two. But I imagine Ainz will fall off faster.
So ig Marcille A3 / Laios A1 is ok ?
Sounds like a plan

+20 is good for marci and laios. I need to save my red emblems for bedo
Is it fairly safe to go all in on destiny summons for souls?
only if you can build the two heroes properly
You can't just have one
Unless you want a mediocre dps that can get you +10% damage in DR
Why marcille in ()
bc marcille would be only good if you go for laios aswell
I will but no clue how far Ill be able to
laios doesnt need high si but you should atleast have him mythic +0
so that he gets to summon a few things
That should be doable in 30 days
I think 1* should be possible
If needed
Iperx Show me your Hero im interested
Heros*
Can i still get the upgrades after collab is out?
If i reroll on a new Account. Is there someone I should 100% roll for?
Or should i just Hope for a lot of wilders that are on the recommended Whish List?
What do i do with extra copies of 5*s
Trish
Mira
I've been doing pulls for a while and I can't seem to share and I don't know how to complete this
if its epic just press on the small button "sharing" bottom left, and then on facebook - it'll say most of the time it cant open facebook or even if it does just close it and the quest is done xd
okay thanks
Thought it's been like 4 uhm
Should I activate the SI of characters that I use on a regular basis?
unlocking, asap on every character that is mythic or higher
upgrading - look at the tierlist if you want competitive advice
otherwise the ones you use
I saw the tier list. Was talking about the unlocking part. Thanks
guys any advice? have 50 scrolls for the event and 5 pulled already. wanted to get shalltear but ppl are saying its impossible to get now so not sure what to do now
I press epic and no show sharing
ig you can ask #bug-reports for support, but ig you need to reinstall or something like that
im playing on huawei i download in appgallery
Why is my companion’s level 180 Ascended 1 Star Mishka level 160 when I use it?
is he in the same guild?
are you in campaign close to each other? - if you're too far from him or smeth lik that, had it happen to my f2p aswell
We aren’t in the same guild anymore. They’re on 21-36 and I’m on 20-52.
then its guild
I see. Thank you for your help! ❤️
we need the next darn awakened already. I have so many resources waiting to be used
31 faction scrolls and 8 epic cards
Also still have 4 of the get all heroes epics
I guess I can use the get all heroes now since the other factions don't have very useful ones left
Regional Arena... I should start reading my emails lol...
I was wondering why everyone became so strong... lol 😅
Marcile or ainz
would someone kindly point out which characters I’m supposed to focus on for progression? I’m stuck on chapter 8.
those first three are good, and you can check pins.
I dont recommend getting the dimensionals, just use it diamonds on normal summons if f2p. You need those early
Marci can probably carry you for a while, she does quite a bit of dmg
They're limited time so I would personally sack some progress to make sure to build up marci/laios
time limited doesnt mean theyre necessary, they definitely not for f2ps, and not needed at all
I have 2* shal, should I pull dims to 3* her?
yes
Albedo > marci would be dope
Si30 Rowan hasnt been too OP so can wait
Si30 Lyca is just an additive 20% DMG multiplier not high on prio list
should i be ascending the mage or warrior from dimensional event?
If you can, both
Marci 3* and Laios 1* or 3* if possible
i dont have the warrior yet, my mage is just elite
i have 9 of the dimensional fodder
f2p
thought marci 5* and then laois 1* isntead of both 3star?
I mean how far can a f2p go
no but like the cost for both 3star is equal to 1 5star and 1 1star no?
They are heavy reliant of each other plus they need high stars to function
Yea, you are right
You can do that
im early game rn tho, so does it even matter
Depend on what you want, Marci has a cheat death for one ally at 5* and Laios has 15% more bonus dmg on whole enemy team
What chapter are you
15-21
i can push to like 16 its liek the same thing tho
my carry rn is a mythic+ daimon
Idk how impactful are they for new players
Shalltear has been a huge help but she can take a team solo
So therefore not a big investment
But Marci and Laios, they are dependent of each other
so should i just save for next dimensional 
gon take a while but i could stack up on the dimensional fodder
This is what I ve been thinking, but idk how worth is to consume your early diamonds on dim banner
oh
You will lack 4F heroes
i just been doin it since im not tryna spend my stargazes on it
bring rem to companions pls 🙏
should i be using my gems for 4f?
Yea
ohhh ok
And save Destiny scrolls for next Dim banner
ok thjanksssssss
Also, when you have 5 ascended heroes in every faction
You can start save diamonds as well
ok
This way, you are ready for wokes release in the future
I really don’t know if wokes are better than dimensionals
But they should be
For f2p, Mortas 1 copy and stop. Save your sg cards. Get 1 copy of the Celestial Twins in the current event.
check pinned msgs for more info
Ok
I have 170 scrolls and 30K diamonds
Is it enough to try to get one of the two new dimensional?
And are they even good?
Probably will hit at 20 spirit
- its not enough
- need both of them to be good
- They're not worth it for f2ps, not that good
pull 300 just to get spirits and save them for the next is what I say
^^^
If you can get to 300 or maybe 360 for that mythic gear also
Because you can’t get dimensional mythic gear anywhere
Just in banner
actually the celestial event (Arthur p2w) did offer dim gears. I think 400, the same price as a dim spirit
which is terrible because the milestone gives you 2 pieces of gear
But I guess there's not much you can do if you have more dims to build than the banner provides

Is there any sense to play on 161 server for inter-server events? Or it doesn't give anything?
?
you mean advantage for crossserver?
yes
maybe a bit, but the region is 13 servers so im not sure if 161 is the start? And it doesnt matter much since whales will always be at the top, whats good is your server/guild is full of active and cooperative then you can beat other server
Can someone please explain this table?
I don't understand why we need to feed good heroes to bad heroes on the right side
Once you have ascended (or 5 starred) a hero on the left, replace the ascended hero with one of the heroes on the right onto your wishlist.
ascended is when frame on the hero is white?
Yeah
thanks
No worries
should i focus on talene or mortas first? i have two copies of both rn
i don't think it's really viable to focus a celestial or hypogean hero
but talene is worth having, she can be a game changer throughout the whole campaign without really upgrading her at all
Sorry. I just meant just for stargazing! Pulling purposes
no need then, unless whale
the popular guides or whatever on reddit said to pull to mythic idk
what do i do with my stargazing then
just collect 700+ SG cards
untill lilith will release someone like Lucretia etc.
main strategy for f2p
ok thanks
you just need E mortas, talene and twins)
so no rush) this is a long run
Probably a dumb question, but does the placement of a hero on the wishlist affect the chances of said hero being pulled? Left>right or it’s all the same?
Same
Thanks
Should I use destiny summon scrolls?
What is a good Ainz/Albedo formation currently? I don't have access to Arthur
Or it's better to wait for some event or new heroes?
Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Albedo
+1 (utility, like Talene, Salaki, Numisu or smth like that)
?
Thanks!
someone know this ? i don't understand
final boss is the goal. Fastest time to kill it wins
Can somebody telle me how much cosmic spirit (food) is required to upgrade ainz from legendary (gold) to ascendant (white) there is 40 min im searching even chat gpt is wrong answering
How much should i ascend marci
And how much from ascendant to 5*
Why does the golden frontier say not enough players i dont understand
10 to ascend, 20 to 5 star i think
You think or you sure ?
For the ascendone
i think👍
its exactly what it says
Like server wise or what exactly?
probably region, it won't 'exempt' a server
Hmm okay thanks
^ btw do you know?
idk, wait someone who has her
Should I spend Destiny Summon Scrolls or keep them for the future?
if f2p, save
when should I spend them?
when theres a good hero obv
For F2P
A3-5 Shalltears
Mythic-A3 Albedo
Elite Ainz
Wait for testing Marcille and Laois
Should save 420 scrolls / 126K Diamonds every time the Dim banner appears.
How many diamonds can I obtain in 1 month? I've just started playing so I spend every gems on regular scrolls.
If you just started, just save your destiny scrolls for next dim collab
use your diamonds for 4f summons
+10K per week. So, +40K per month. But should minus 16K mythic emblem chests so +24K.
Only use Destiny scrolls on dim spirits or very busted 4f hero.
spend 300 summons to get the free spirits from the banner then save
if you save it all and spend it all at once later then you will less resources. Not to mention the fodder will help you out as well
Guys does marcille familiar counted as summoned and got rewrite effect?
And progress on 1 week acc
Should i go for A3 marcille or should i ascend Laios first?
do I build estrilda?
So guys what do we think of the 2 new dimensionals now?
How to build? If they're worth?
Idk yet since i don't have laios
But looking by their skills,they complement each other
Imo if you want to build then both
By alone laios better as a buffer and tank
Is he though? Marci seems to do fine on her own as well
People have been complaining about laios dying too fast and not doing much because of that
Laios is definitely a "auto battle until he ults" kind of hero
Which means not good for pvp
in the beginning I should focus on one of each faction right? Do you have examples, with one these are? I think its different between the ones I should focus on early and the ones in the tierlist.
You should find one of each faction since that's all the fodder will allow for but who to ascend depends on who you get
I'm over a week in on my alt and only have 2 ascended and 2 mythics.
There are a couple others I could bring to mythic but then I lock myself out if someone else needs to be ascended
Oh ok, so I just use any 5 so I can get to higher lvls? (1 of each faction)
All you need to do is ascend one hero then swap that hero in your resonance crystal with any other. That swapped hero will take the levels
Then you swap the ascended hero to a different spot
That's how I have 160 resonance with a bunch of elites in my crystal
When you say swap, are you taking about swapping everything, like lvls, ascended, etc.? I think there was a mode or something on the classic afk arena. Is that what you mean?
no in the crystal you can just swap positions of heroes, which will allow you to break the level barrier eventho a heroes ascension tier shouldnt allow to be that level currently
Yeah idk if it's an intended feature or bug but it's absolutely necessary depending on your rng
I didn't have to do it for my account on 115 but it's very necessary for my account on 157
If it's intended then they should have a better system than RC musical chairs
Literally zero point to make it that way
Who should i focus next?
Rowan
Boyz, upgrade the new two dim heroes so they get together or get full shaltear and push one if the two new heroes
Am at stage 38-44 campaign
What if he's paired with marci? For pvp and prob backline
Offensively you can position them optimally but they're too fragile and easy to take out if you're defending
shalltear
Its been a month or so since I played
If anyone can guide me or let me know what I should focus on or what event I should focus on that'd be great
Are any of the new heroes good
you were away from the game for a month?
It might still be okay if you were a whale
usually a death sentence though
I have shall 3* , should I get her to 5* with the dim spirits from the new event or save them?
I only spent like 3 dollars on the game
Can you guide me for a bit
if you're a low spender and are away from an account for a month then you have to restart
there's just no coming back from being that far behind from everyone else
progress is tied to rewards and rewards are tied to competition
@sonic matrix hey zap, why you left
I remember you, you used to ask a lot of question
Thought you liked the game
I know
I remember you too
Honestly I had a lot of work to do
And I was travelling a lot
That s nice, the sad part is you might need to restart
The good part is they released 2 new dimensionals rn, with everything an early player gets
Maybe you can ascend them till the end of the event
Tho I don’t recommend spending diamonds early game into dimensional banner
No way that's only offered for new players only
Are they good
Together, they are good
Whats the requirement?
Not Shalltear level but they are good
I saw that you can get free twins
Great
Well, what do you reccomend i should do or focus on atm
I have 1 free chest collab
Are you gonna play on the old account?
Either you go for 300 summons in banner or you try your best to build Laios
I think Laios can work solo but Marci needs Laios
Genuinely too lazy to make a new account
I think thatd bore me even more
Which one again? Dimensional spirit?
Yea, you can try your best to achieve 300
Summons on dim banner
And keep them for next dimensionals
I got like 45 scrolls
Ill let you know the result
You need 300
After you have 5 ascended heroes in every faction
You can use your diamonds for dimensional banner
I got all blues lol
Is it worth to use all of them rn?
And is it possible to gather 300 summons before it goes away?
It s not worth to use diamonds if you are early game
And idk if it s possible if you can go for 300
Idk your progress
2 weeks should be what you need to get 300 summons. Just need to budget which diamonds can be used for tavern before then
but that's like 2 weeks with new server benefits
I just got a heros chest. with my roster, which hero should i grab?
dont upgrade heroes to legend, and wait for more copies before you decide
at least start wondering what to do when you can ascend a hero
anything before then is useless
which one to choose guy
I'm cooked so behind in my server. My duo who started the same time as me already has 4 transcended heroes. A lot of people have built Ainz and Albedo also Marci. I only have Shalltear as my dim🥹
At this point I'll just dump every diamonds into dims spirit right?
thats not much, but yes, spend all diamonds into dims spirit)
Okay 👍 I did my best to save. 😆
how are the new dimensionals?
does anybody know when the last server opened
visually borrowed heroes does not have stars on their portriat, does that mean borrowed heroes dont have their divinities activated?
today i think, every 2 days at reset
yes
noted thanks
Thank you
Wait did you mean today as in later today or last reset
ha? i meant the last server probably was earlier
hey guys i only got a 5* shalltear what would yall recc me to ascend next albedo or either of the new dim heroes
if you can invest on both at high star, go. If can only do 1 of them, not worth it
alright thanks
Which pvp team is the best without asolise?
dims
wilders with trisha
I only have marcille
I guess its to early thinking about pvp in your situation
)) focus on Dream Realm
yeah, not bad, but stop wasting emblems for each hero
read this guide about priority
I only unlocked the slot
Trisha Si20 minimum, Rowan 20, Lyca 20
not worth it
Ok thx for helping
you will have a lot of heroes that needs epic emblems,
they will subsequently become deficit after chapter 33.
has anyone done the math on how many sg card would it take to get A5 celeshypo?
700 cards A0
Every 70 cards one is guaranteed
ok thanks
thats totally fine, need to unlock all those
How much should i ascend the new characters?
Do I use my Diamonds in the beginning for normal summons or do I save for the Dimensional summons? Have one L+ atm.
Normal. Only start saving hard when you have enough to build good teams. You can start saving little by little though
Different story if the hero were shalltear level, then can do half normal half destiny
So I guess Mercille + Laios are not on her lvl and I should wait until the next release?
What's the verdict on Marcille and Laios?
they are not.. Plus you need both of them at high investment to be 'good' so they aren't for f2ps
and definitely not for new accs
Stocked up about 80k diamonds, I’m chapter 19, where should I be spending them
Guys how much it spirit cost to ascend a dimensional ?
a0 = hero copy + 13 dim souls (650 pulls without milestone rewards)
a5 = hero copy + 23 dim souls (1150 pulls without milestone rewards)
Holy shi-
If that the amount then i think i can only mythic my laios 
Unless i get lucky
every milestone soul is -50 pulls btw.
Ohh i see
Its like gurranted system
Yes?
What does haste do in a fight ? Do my heroes attack faster or what exactly is it
the banner up top
the guarntee (pity) is 60
every action they do, its the most important stat
Yeah thought that
mehira, lyca, twins (elijah & lailah)
And another question i had an account in afk arena which i deletet it was connected to my apple id ... do i need to wait for complete deletion to connect my apple id to the account i am playing right now
#bug-reports ask the customer service support in there
Thy
or dm them - users are not responsible for you account thingies
👍
Cam i ask more questiom?
After what chapter you can buy dimemsional gear from guild?
you cant buy dimensional gear from guild
dim gear is only unlocked from the milestone banner
Oh i see
can this be considered good Progress ? 2 days f2p should I focus on something specific ?
first things first, you shouldnt ascend every hero as soon as you can - read everything from the first pin (Ascension Tips)
and beside that idk, ur usally racing with the pace of a server i generally use the leaderboards (wall of legends for that)
Rip
f.e. my f2p is performing like that in campaign atm
They are far ahead of me
i was on day 1 on place 100 and day 2 like place 70
that is not something you should be concernd if you keep ur instant resources and use them when you spike
f.e. i spiked after unlockinng marci and mishka to asc
Yeah heavent used any of the gold powder or something else
Ah but epic + is ok right ? Cause i dont use fodder for that ?
yes
I only accended heroes where i thought they were good
thats good, thats how it went on my first f2p
but my first f2p transformed into a p2w xd
This small energy dude and the bear lady thought they were good
I try to ascend lyca first because i got enough copy
But somehow the game spam me mishka to the point that i can ascend her
So thats why i got mythic lyca and mishka
Did i already ascend a bad hero ?
No,but you should really make legend+ using fooder first
not really i just thing for graveborn daimons is the best early on
for lightbringers sonja/gwyneth
for wilders mishka/trishea
for maulers crassio/skriath
Cant find the acension tips sry
Sonja the goat you are
Didnt got daimon 2 times
ur acc is not old
ofc you cant find everything - just go with the flow and if you're consistently top 30 its fine
This game....doenst want to give me trishea paytas at all
i pulled like so many wilders and i can only asc mishka and lyca, so i dont have trishea build either:
I have not one of those at epic +
its not the end of the world, you can only see that by playing for over a week tho
I mean like
so pre 1 week dont even bother asking if you need to reroll
I can acend three wilders already
Reroll ?
check your wishlist, do you pulls and go with the flow, if you deem that your acc is f'd just start over
I am ch 8-23 but a little bit stuck am i just not good enough or is it normal
reroll is starting over
Ah kk nah
on a new server
most of the things you can find in the pins
Idk if i got enough diamond for this month to ascend laios
just read through it carefully
i wont have enough either, but i wont bother with it, i just build an a5 marcille because she'll help me in guild hunt and dream realm
Should i wait for the next dimen banner?
Shit i have rowan and rosaline for lightbringer
Its not the end of the world,they both great and it still early
I will focus on rowan as i will get some more copies from him for my lightbringer
Tbh rowan is only good to mythic point
my f2p also only has rowan, thats no issue, but the 2nd lightborn should not be rosa bc both are utility supports
Yeah true
My lighbearer was sonja and rowan
Is that good?
But first 1 hero from esch section right
And i cant keep up leveling marcille because i need these souls
You just hope and pray to gacha god that they spam you one carry hero
look at the tierlist and stop freaking out, yes its good enough
would be hard getting sonja and gwyneth while you also pull only wilder faction cards like tf
like read the pins or read the tierlist and then you're fine
literally, i cannot add much more and if you get 10 copies of lyca instead of mishka game is not overbecause of that xd
check your own pace and if you're happy with it
i wont be able to keep the 4th spot on my f2p for long, there will be a dust and xp wall at lvl 300+
where ppl with a 5€ monthly card will take over
thats unavoidable for it
Iperx different question how do you get a feeling for whats good and whats bad cause of the heroes moving around i find it difficult to actully see why a fight succeeds and why not ?
Sad that there is such a pay wall
well on my main i have to theoriecraft
The difference of f2p and spender in this game is kinda
Idk...sad?
on my f2p i mainly look at formations
and use what other ppl used and adjust to it with whatever is close
not really, because the p2w gets like what 3 scrolls more a week for free?
the f2p gets almost the same stuff
and just bc someone decided to pay to skip shortcuts, well you'll find it in any gaccha or espacially mobile game
I usually move it depend on what enemy formation or mine
Like if the enemy have nara that can pull my dps then i move them in safe space
F2p is more worth cause in the end its just a useless handy game and it probably feels more rewarding not paying anything
if there will be more pvp based resosurce gaining modes, then I'd agree
And getting everything
You right,in afk arena the difference is not that big
Unlike some other gacha game i play
but at this time, like you can just compete as f2p against other f2p and delete the whales/p2ws away from the first places
and then you see your actual performance and that is most likely arround top 30 in the first weeks if you dont min max
top 10 if you min max
and will be just from ppl quitting the game or slacking of and not being active every 12h - a thing that happens by default, you'll move up
Yeah
Sometimes when i fight i hate to find tidus and numisu on enemy formation
And i myself play casual so nothing to much to worry about
I just dont want to do grave mistakes
Just having a little bit of fun and leveling my heroes
like do i compare irl my house to a villa? no - bc i dont need to, because i dont have the money to afford a villa or clean up all that space either ways xd
and i see it that way for games aswell
you compare to the things you want to compare
i do not compete against tank the s117 whale f.e.
One guy on my server also already has ascendet heroes with stars and 1 with a weird star i think
(that is his box, not mine)
That star called transcended
transcension
Nah i yapped
tier above ascended star
Also i just notice
Did awaken talene made his way into companion?
always has been, requires 5x a0
celestials
Would it be possible to get shalltear and albedo if we miss it or it's missed forever ?
Iperx how much should i ascend the new character minimum cause i am f2p?
You can only go up from there with people leaving rn I am top 10 easily in all gamemodes
Is there albedo ainz and shalltear in every server new account or it was an event and we cannot get them (or we can but I have to reset my account)
If you don't have them already you can't get them anymore
Yeah some regions are funny
What the hell
I think it's funnier to see regions where the stronger players in the small league haven't bothered switching over and are still trying to fight the big league
Even the whales should care about the rewards. Yesterday my chests gave me 4 gazers
Should I prio gear on correct faction or just put it on my strongest characters
if you dont really have someone that you use with the correct faction, then put them on strongest for now
Yeah if I put on correct faction it would just go on someone that’s not really used and still low stars
Should I stop focusing on wilder faction and focus on other factions? I already have solise
I'm saving faction scrolls for the next awakened hero since I can't get 5 ascended in all factions
though once I do get 5 ascended in all factions then it's back to prioritizing whichever is meta
after a2 Solise I'd focus on the other factions that you wanna fill up
f.e. if you want to upgrade your gwyneth comps (gwyneth, hendrik, estrilda, rosa) - pull lb
if you need 3/5 graveborns upgraded - pull them
big chance that after havin 5x a5 wilder that you wont need other wilders upgraded for quite the while
if you only have 5x a2 wilders, you can still pull a bit wilders
What should I be dropping my diamonds on, in chapter 19 and have stocked up almost 80k now
@burnt moss what do you think he should do? 4F summon or try the 300 milestone?
For clarification. These are the heroes I should be focusing on ascending?
I think C19 is late enough that you can absolutely get the 300 summons. But you also have more than 3 weeks to do it
I think 80k diamonds is just under a month's worth of diamonds normally
basically if they were to go down to 0 diamonds right now you could probably get to 300 summons on a dimensional banner
part of it will also depend on summon progress. If you already have your carries ascended and solise then dumping on 4F isn't going to progress you much.
It is worth noting that the next new 4f hero is highly likely to be a wilder so you can use that to fast track solise assuming it's one worth pulling.
Yes
Any suggestions to get hero exp faster? It seems only way is monthly pass
Can’t do much for that, maybe buy the fast rewards thing
Also yea, monthly pass helps
Dam 😔, here I was thinking the purple stuff was going to bottleneck me but it's actually the hero exp
Thank you!
Laios mythic, marci A5 or Laios A1 marci A3? Wich better?
Which better for f2p?
twins unless you already have them in which case don't open it for the time being
This question still exsit
Srry new player
Dont worry bro i just remember the meme @burnt moss make


Did companions in future have fitur like classic? Hero chains?
like how people link dimensionals or what?
Yes
currently no such thing
I haven't got a5 laios yet but he seems to actually survive
The new dims might be meaningful for pvp but marcille gets too hard countered by assassins.
Laios ulty cc actually good if put in the middle and got skriath will cc 5 enemy
True she hp like cotton candy
But black magic really good
How much gap for new dim?
gap for what?
Like banner
ah. the last one took 2 months from the end to show up
though that's a little faster than what classic usually had
2 months its to fast i cant get 300k diamond to prepare it
any advice?
advice is to restart and read the guides properly
why?
now that i see it, it's not really emphasized in the beginner guide
Only upgrade them when you have enough copies to make them Mythic to Ascended. 4-8 copies.
Upgrading multiple heroes to legend will spread out your 'fodder' heroes. They are very rare. You will get stuck and take a very long time to ascend one hero if you do that.
And focus 1 hero per faction
Yeah unless you spend a decent amount of money this can't be salvaged
And I don't think it's worth salvaging
This will stuck loong time
Which Hero do I put in Stargaze
what does ascended level give?
1 mortas, then after that its up to you
Kk nice than i will hope for my luck to get him
Which heroes should i use as fodder? Didnt see it in the pinned graphic?
legendary tier heroes
And what rarity should i use fodder at?
Wait what exactly is fodder used for? Resonating crystals or ascending?
both, for ascending it is used to be sacrificed
youre doing good, daimon will be useless soon so if you ever get gwyneths she'd be the best carry for you to be paired with rosa and rowan. Also need lyca
👍
Will he still be useful for greyborn tower? Because ima try building hodgkin @tiny saffron
yes, everyone counts in faction towers. Shemira is main carry there
Is this a decent team to use early-mid game?
yes, i suggest not building marcille further and focus on normal summons until can have a bit of ascended. And not upgrading heroes to legend until have 4-8 copies