companions-questions

[cobalt coral]

You can play Forest Mania for a lot of DS scrolls

[hollow merlin]

Ok thank

[crimson acorn]

So, is there some trick for the resonating crystal? thought I heard something about being able to only level 1 character or something

[dreamy cave]

why does shalltear alone is stronger than with companions?

[wanton current]

Grouped up enemies for the spear skill

Not stronger every time

[arctic harness]

Guys thoughts on spending dias on trish? I have around 50k

[rich yoke]

Is spending here worth it?

[arctic harness]

I do one reset daily

[rich yoke]

Wdym? Just once per day?

[arctic harness]

Yes, the second one cost 500 not worth imo

[steep dock]

how do I get DS scrolls?

[slim rock]

which one should I choose

[nocturne nymph]

Guild hunt, Dream Realm, Arena once a week

[steep dock]

do you think you can make me a team for dream realm, and guild hunt?

[nocturne nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

Theres a reason theres public Leaderboard

just copy what he highest guy uses

but you want to get your Mortas from the stargazer to get good scores

[steep dock]

I haven't unlocked sg yet, but i'm close

[nocturne nymph]

plus Dream realm gets one more round added every cycle up to 5+Boss, thats why we dont have fixed recomendations

[steep dock]

ohh

[sullen owl]

I have and Ascended Shalltear +21 with 3 stars. I have two questions:

1. should I keep investing in more stars for Shalltear or should I invest in one of the other two dimensional heroes?.

2. who should I +20 next? (Lyca already has +11, so the real question is: who should I +10 next?)

[nocturne nymph]

stop leveling signature items by steps, go 0,10,20 or 30, no in betweens

[sullen owl]

Yeah, but I don't have enough chest for the Faction emblems

[nocturne nymph]

exactly, then you save, dont randomly use them for some levels, you want to make Solise your first +30

[sullen owl]

But if I don't had faction emblems or golden emblems for +20 in which hero should I spend the silver emblems?

[sullen owl]

What? Is there a guide or something for that in Companion?

[obtuse dove]

They are pinned on this channel

[sullen owl]

Oh, I just saw it. Thanks

[obtuse dove]

@autumn orchid I have not seen your latest shop prio guide pinned yet

[sullen owl]

What about Shalltear btw? She is fine at 3 stars or not? I don't know if keep investing on her or invest in other dimensional hero

[obtuse dove]

3 is fine. 5 if you want a little advantage in arena

[sullen owl]

Ok, who should I Ascend next Albedo or Ainz?

[obtuse dove]

If ur f2p I suggest keep both of them at 1 copy and focus on 4 faction heroes instead. Especially wilder units to unlock Awaken solise (required 5 ascended wilders)

If ur willing to pay then albedo over ainz

[sullen owl]

What? 17 days is not enough for another ascended dimensional heroe? I already have 2 ascended Wilders btw

[nocturne nymph]

17 days is 60 scrolls at best

the reason Shalltear was fast was due to getting 6 spirits free as headstart + 50 scrolls (2 spirits) + 1 more on the 7th day

[winged topaz]

I have to wait till tmr for rem😭

[sullen owl]

Hmm.. that kinda sucks. I guess it will be Shalltear 5 stars and then just regular summons. I want to take advantage of the rest of the event

Ty @obtuse dove and @nocturne nymph

[nocturne nymph]

we will be able to summon dim spirits again once another dim comes

[sullen owl]

When will be that?

[nocturne nymph]

we dont know, but shouldnt be longer than 3 months

[sullen owl]

I see, ty very much

[flint pike]

Is it better to get T2 for weapon or get another T1?

[nocturne nymph]

T2 only from events, and not worth, so T1 boots

[arctic zinc]

Would spending all my diamonds on dimensional summon to upgrade shalltear be a bad idea?
I js started yesterday im at 6-20

[outer shadow]

whats everyones thoughts on the new character is she worth using?

[last night]

Shalltear is an extremely good hero but if you are f2p u might hinder ur progress a lot by focusing only her and ignoring normal summons that early

Although she can kinda solo carry if u just have meatshields, its a tough question really, since dim. copies with these scrolls is pretty easy way to build them, it gets harder when they go into stargaze scrolls and u have to play for a few months without shalltear

[nocturne nymph]

do normal summons until you get M on each faction, then you can consider focusing on dim banner

[kindred ether]

Best plan of action to get 5Ascended wilders^

[honest bear]

Looks like you're doing a pretty good job. You could keep saving up your fodder and wait until you can ascend Nev or Oku, but Tasi is pretty good also. If you really need another tank, then I'd wait for more Oku copies and fodder.

You could fodder Seirus, if you wanted to. It'll be a long time before you get around to building him up.

Maybe an E+ of Respen or Pippa, also (not something I personally really recommend, but some people say it's fine).
That way you could get Oku to M.

[mighty basin]

Anyways knows which boss or where trishea is good in doesnt seem like shes good anywhere atm

[nocturne nymph]

bossing, dream realm

[mighty basin]

Not better

[compact wasp]

Should i get shalltear? Is she worth the investment (Im a newbie and join like a week ago) ;-;

[mighty basin]

Op hero yes

[compact wasp]

Should i use the chests to get her copies?

[mighty basin]

Rather get 1 of each they wont be back for quite a long time

U can get their ascension materials every dimensional event

[compact wasp]

ohhh ok

[autumn orchid]

@quick ginkgo can you pls pin this one #companions-questions message
and replace the old one for this #companions-questions message

[nocturne nymph]

Should we state Nara as one copy wonder even if all players get her before ch5 on Get All heroes?

[autumn orchid]

True

[autumn orchid]

maybe I should add mehira and talene too then

[nocturne nymph]

sounds good, that should make the point of one copy being enough

[autumn orchid]

Wishlist priority
-Heroes are in no particular order within the same group
-Once you're done with one of the left heroes, swap them for one of the right ones
-The wishlist is unlocked after 60 regular summons
-Faction summons should be used wilders to get Asolise as fast as possible

[olive crystal]

When you say "one you're done"
Is it still A 1* like in the classic one?

[terse ginkgo]

Done here means A5

Or in some cases you can arguably stop at A3 according to your circumstances

[olive crystal]

Ok th

Got lyca A3 and I was wondering if I was wasting my time

[rich cape]

she is BIS nowhere and wont be before she gets her divine effect and some hero that actually can utilized it fully releases. Other than that she seems solid overall but need more testing for final verdict.

[mighty basin]

Used her a5 and nothing special anywhere

[rich cape]

because she doesnt have divinity yet, no point in A5*

only a little bit more ATK

[mighty basin]

Ye she doesnt contribute much in dream realm or campaign so far

[rich cape]

she isnt much of a campaign hero anyway, only DR/GH etc. But like I said she wont do much even there before she gets her divinty.

[mighty basin]

How good is her divinity?

[rich cape]

We will see after it releases.

even if her divinity releases and there is still no hero like Baden/Abaden, Saurus or smth she could be mid

[west wave]

chat is it worth getting these gold ones i almost have shalltears weapon at 20

[rich cape]

chat it is not

[west wave]

bet chat

[rich cape]

[kindred ether]

Thanks!

[west wave]

chat should i leg+ nevanthi or elf dude

[cunning summit]

no never...

[cunning summit]

did you buy shalltear with money

[west wave]

nah but i got albedo and ainz

[cunning summit]

doesnt that cost 100 dollars to get both

[west wave]

what no its like 5 euros

[cunning summit]

bro we cant exchange until like 10 days later

buying one costs 15 dollars early

the other one is 100 dollars i think

[west wave]

i think ur in the wrong chat this is companions

[cunning summit]

bruh how is companions like tho

are there any modes?

[west wave]

nah pretty sure theres just less content and more mechanics thats about it

the whole point is to not have the classic modes bloat i think

[cunning summit]

but like are there any modes?

what are the events like?

are you a casual player?

[west wave]

💀

[grave light]

should I feed the legendaries and focus into 1 hero or let them be and feed them all later on to get ascension

[kindred ether]

Got lucky and got her to 4 star, worth to keep pulling for 2 spirits to get her 5*?

About 13 days in^

[grave light]

i think focus on the other characters

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301259004407971840/1329120416496619631/guide.png?ex=67ad7099&is=67ac1f19&hm=743a0ff8da6bf6761520f72e3d83a57659577fb001788badf0eeb00ae672c686&

[kindred ether]

Both ainz and shalltear are 5*

[grave light]

then yeah

[steep dock]

who's good to run with shalltear in story

[terse ginkgo]

Wrong chat?

[kindred ether]

Talene

Brutus

Mehira/salaki/rowan are situational

CH 24 13 days in

[loud pine]

How to use the diamonds more efficiently?

[nocturne nymph]

Fast Rewards, bounty Board refresh, buying Red chests, Daily arena refresh

All this comes after you got your first ascended hero tho, until then, normal summons

[terse ginkgo]

Arena daily refresh is not efficient cost wise

[nocturne nymph]

I mean, it's pretty much the same rate as Reds exchange on events, if used on Mortas shards can be argued that it's even more valuable

[terse ginkgo]

Arena coins worth 1:10

Vs diamonds

[nocturne nymph]

Wdym?

[terse ginkgo]

So you'd paid 200 for 150 diamonds

Compare prices

[nocturne nymph]

Sure, it's more expensive than using raw diamonds

[terse ginkgo]

Silver coat 480 diamond
Or 7200 per 15

Redsc1980 va 19800

SG coat 7500 Vs 750 diamonds they cost on deluxe card shop

So literally arena coins are exactly 1dianond per 10 coins

[nocturne nymph]

You pay 2640 for a set of 10 reds bought with only Arena refreshes

[terse ginkgo]

Hence, the refresh is worth 200diamonds and you obtain 1500, which is 150 diamonds

Aka the prices become 33% higher

[nocturne nymph]

Yep, you are correct

However, look at it this way, without Arena refreshes you buy 20 reds every week from Store
40 in Two weeks
By doing arena refreshes you add 10 to your biweekly income, 50
Increasing your Reds rate by 25%

Or in calendar terms:
Without refresh it takes you 15 weeks to get+30
With refresh 12 weeks

[nocturne nymph]

33% sounds kinda big, and it would be if we could dump lots of diamonds into it at once, but it's like paying a fee of 600 diamonds to "refresh" store for one extra set of reds

[west wave]

is it not worth it tho to slide into top 10 or sum

[terse ginkgo]

I made all those numbers and in my case I didn't find it justified to pay the extra. But that's up to the consumer

[terse ginkgo]

Maybe it's not dependant of that investment

Also, that extra diamonds in over priced reds will equal to less spending in pulls, DS pulls or something else

Hence it's a complex scenario which oneself has to value and decide

However, knowing the numbers should be the first step so as to take a conscious choice based on some facts

[west wave]

i see

also wanted to ask u something cause my co op teammate is kinda useless rn but does it have to be someone from ur guild?

i feel like i could get further if i had a good tm8 (im in top 5 server chap 21 but my teammate is still in chap 15)

[nocturne nymph]

Yes and no, say your resonant lvl is 160, if your duo has a hero lvl 180 and you are not both on the same guild, it will show as 160 to you

[west wave]

oh so thats why ppl mostly duo in same guild

man its all russians and viets for me

😭

[nocturne nymph]

There's also a 3% bonus increase to your AFK income

[rich citrus]

In vault of time does killing all the defenders weaken the boss?

[nocturne nymph]

No, but you need to defeat them to complete the kill

[west wave]

okay also why is there two pvp leaderboards im first in the dusk one and not on the other sun one

[rich citrus]

Alright, thanks!

[nocturne nymph]

One calculates 12 hrs difference to account for timezones, you pick the one that suits you best

[terse ginkgo]

She is worth and long lasting hero. So won't be wasted scrolls

But, that being said, that will also decrease your SG power in case of something badass comes up....so....your choice/risk 😄

[wanton current]

Hoping lucretia is next 😭

[cobalt coral]

Hope not, cuz it s too hard to 5* her

[kindred ether]

^

[wanton current]

yeah.. gives me a reason to spend saved up sgs though

[kindred ether]

Abaden🙏

[kindred ether]

Is this even beatable for me rn

[jagged tusk]

Is it even worth buying emblems still? I keep saving mine for better heroes but nothing comes

[nocturne nymph]

Reds yes, the others you can skip

[jagged tusk]

Alright ty

[rich citrus]

Do guilds get more deputy spots at higher levels?

[nocturne nymph]

You get max 3

[jagged tusk]

Should I only use t1 stones on faction specific gear

[strong bear]

How good is orthos as a 1 copy for early to mid game

[jagged tusk]

Nothing special imo

[strong bear]

Aww man

How many would u need for him to be somewhat useful

[nocturne nymph]

he is a handy Shalltear faction sacrifice, he sets some Stun time bombs at start of battle which remain after death

[nocturne nymph]

3*, that furniture skill basically allows you to squeeze more seconds for bossing

[strong bear]

Excuse you Shalltear faction?

[nocturne nymph]

yeah, since he is celestial thats our only current way to give same faction bonus lvl 5

[strong bear]

Ahhh u meant dimensional faction bonuses
Well so he's basically not worth starting a whole playthrough with

I'm trying to reroll till I have a good start for a 2nd server every time a new one pops up but my luck has been horrid

[nocturne nymph]

how far are you going into each attempt?

[strong bear]

Till the end of the 4th chapter I felt like was alright

If I have nothing even a little good by then then no

If something is alright I go a bit further to see

[nocturne nymph]

how many summons is that?

[strong bear]

Like 100 or so idk

Maybe around 120

If I properly use the shop for discount on scrolls

[nocturne nymph]

I think a good enough reroll is 3 Sonja copies, and 2 Shemira ones, + 1 Mishka, if you got a useful clehypo (Mortas, Talene, Twins) you are golden

since you are gonna use Faction scrolls on Wilders, copies even out

[strong bear]

Yeah if only I usually only get 1 mishka or 1 Sonja not a combination or more

[frosty furnace]

I’m still sitting at 3 Sonja copies 😭😭

[nocturne nymph]

[coral sentinel]

rerolling in this game doesnt yield the same benefits as other games imo

[nocturne nymph]

its kinda worth to reroll, but you have to commit more to he attempt, and the main focus wouldnt be your summons in itself

like the initial 4 days, to be able to gauge if the server will have spenders and how many, and try to duo with said spenders, get into the #1 guild, and also Pet luck

[strong bear]

I mean good summon luck with few spenders good no?

Also what do u think of this one

[nocturne nymph]

for sure

thats a cool amount of Mishkas, + Ezizh

[strong bear]

It's the best 1 I've had so far but is this worth it or should I keep going?

[nocturne nymph]

its a good candidate, start playing and see about the other things I mentioned

[tiny saffron]

Which hero should I put for stargazer summons

[nocturne nymph]

Mortas 1 copy, Twins 1 copy,

[tiny saffron]

Thanks

[nocturne nymph]

5A in 4 factions do you mean 20 A total??

[coarse ledge]

How, what is this 6star?

[nocturne nymph]

get 25 5*, then use 8 copies of that hero to reach it, get minimal stat improvement

[coarse ledge]

Daaamn almost had a stroke reading that. Guess i'll save the extras tho

[nocturne nymph]

I dont think its worth, might use those copies as fodder intead

[coarse ledge]

Prolly a matter of if i will get 25 5*, guess i will eventually. I'm down to minmaxing

[steep dock]

what does one copy wonder mean?

[honest bear]

It means that the hero does a lot of work at just E.

[nocturne nymph]

it means you dont need to pull more copies for it to work

[steep dock]

ohhhh

so I don't NEED to get more talene copies?

but its recommended to get more?

[honest bear]

That's right. Talene is recommended in stargazer as she is considered the most useful Cele/Hypo.

So if you really wanted to pull in stargazer, she would be the best to go for/highest priority.

[steep dock]

awesome

but, do yk an efficient way to get stargaze cards?

[nocturne nymph]

Arena store, 10 weekly

thats it, theres no tricks around it

[honest bear]

The truth is there isn't a fast way (time efficient) other than spending a lot of money.

[steep dock]

[honest bear]

What knightOfThorns said. Cost efficient is to slowly gather them from events and Arena store.

[steep dock]

sigh

I need arena coins, I used them on primordial emblems😭

[tiny saffron]

After I obtain them which hero should I add

[nocturne nymph]

btw @honest bear what does ur username mean?

[honest bear]

Emblems aren't bad, especially early on, for FTP players, imo.
I would change over to red chests (M [mythic] emblems) when they become available, or stargazers.

[steep dock]

these?

[honest bear]

That's the one's. 👍

[honest bear]

Can I dm the story behind the name to you?
It's a bit of a strange/silly story.

Not sure posting in a public place would be the best idea.

[nocturne nymph]

sure

[steep dock]

okay

[limber sand]

Do you think I should fodder some of my e+ wilders to get asolise? I've got a lot of them and like no actual fodder

[nocturne nymph]

I would do it, if you eat all the Seirus, Gorvos, Respens, Nemora and like 2 Pippas you could get Solise right now which will be a huge boost to your account

[limber sand]

Thanks

[tardy cloud]

Yo, is it normal to not have some heroes not show up on the wishlist?

I dont think these ones are new. The heroes on the wishlist on the noob survival guide arent available to me

Ohh. That makes sense. Is there a wishlist for companion?

[nocturne nymph]

yup, in the pins

post your wilder box

I would say so, the thing about elite cards is they dont follow the Wishlist, so if you get copies of the heroes you want, stars, if you dont, fodder

[tardy cloud]

Should i build Shemira cause she seems to be what im getting

[nocturne nymph]

you still need one more star on Nevanthi and Eironn for Solise 2*

[nocturne nymph]

yes, good hero for bosses and early campaign

5 A 2* wilders

[tardy cloud]

Thank you

[nocturne nymph]

once yo have like the important stars for wilders (mishka, nevanthi, eironn) is when you can consider using on other faction

that was Oku for me

like I had people at 3 stars already and somehow he speedran to first 5* wilder

he is the Goat, he should be 4th wilder to ascend after Mishka, Lyca, Nev imo, theres too many anoying enemies hard to counter without him

Tidus, Treznor, Thane, Hedwyn, throw an Oku to them and they will stay put enough for the rest of the team to do their job

1* is pretty good, 3* has potential but is somewhat situational

[steep dock]

mynx

I have a lot of daimon copies, should I build him a bit?

I have 3 total copies, 1 being elite+

[nocturne nymph]

Tasi is 6th imo, but I will say she is pretty good at surviving for Forked

[steep dock]

okay, i'll try to

this is what i've got so far

I need a bit more food for daimon

unless I can use isabella for food

or is she useful?

am I supposed to use the green ones?

cus i've just been using the blue ones and ascending them

gg

[nocturne nymph]

thats the right way

[steep dock]

oh, I thought I was cooked😭

like these ones right?

[nocturne nymph]

yep

[steep dock]

okay i'm good then

and then when i'm leveling, what should be the order? i've been leveling shalltear first then rosa

[steep dock]

i've been using them

especially for wishlist, shop, main prio, etc

just like the main things

[nocturne nymph]

thats correct

i can make either Daimon or Silas A, just not sure what I wanna do first, and Belinda, Estrilda and Skreg are actually 5*, just need to decide on the other hero returns

[steep dock]

btw, i've been doing forked fate a bit is that good?

[nocturne nymph]

yes, you NEED to do forked

[steep dock]

and kings tower right

[nocturne nymph]

yes, dust, dust, dust

[steep dock]

dust is the reason i've been doing ff

i'm currently going up from 7-17

[nocturne nymph]

4, but my Duo hard carries my campaign, I only need to handle Forked

ch36 becomes 4 teams

it will eventually reach 5 at some point

but not even the guys at lvl 361+ have reached that

3 teams is manageable, 4 we better get one more awaken soon, cuz Belinda and Shemira sometimes work, sometimes doesnt

my M gear stash has been going quite solid I would say

Shemira is more valuable because of Bosses

but its weird, I hoped to see people to keep using Daimon on higher chapters clears, but is very odd to find a clear that actually uses him

I'm surprised by the amount of Gwyn clears I have found

make sure to hoard some guild coins cuz those stones arent cheap

Boots are the BEST gear piece

they give Dodge

Dodge can be the reason you clear or not a stage

I still want/need more Int Boots

[covert jewel]

Does faction tower give stargaze cards in companion and if yes at what floor ?

[nocturne nymph]

nope, but it gives red chests every 20 floors after 245

[covert jewel]

Yeah 180 and still rare soul stones

[covert jewel]

Ah okay ty

[nocturne nymph]

I think the issue is companion enemies are more aggresive compared to classic early chapters

hmmm nope

by now it is 80 rc from all 4f towers combined

I only have reds for One +30 and a half

[covert jewel]

I mean back in the day classic early chapters were just as hard coming back to the game after 5 years I pushed 9 chapters without changing a thing

[nocturne nymph]

make sure to buy the 20 chest on store weekly

theres a time I faced one Tidus on every round

[steep dock]

NO WAY

[nocturne nymph]

only after chapter clear

[steep dock]

[covert jewel]

Starts when you finish 23 I think just got it but it’s been a long time so I don’t remember if 22 gave stargaze too

[steep dock]

should I level rosa or rowan first?

[nocturne nymph]

Sonja

[steep dock]

i'd need to use one of her other copies to be able to

and I only have 3 total as of rn

and then what should I use this currency for?

I have 56k

[nocturne nymph]

nopeblue stones for fodder

[steep dock]

thats what I was thinking but I wanted to make sure

[nocturne nymph]

hear me out, level Rosa to 140, then on the creystal tap modify and swap her with Sonja

[steep dock]

fair tbh

[nocturne nymph]

👌

[steep dock]

I wanna get at least 2400 purple stuff per day to gain 100 per hour before the first week of my playing is over

[nocturne nymph]

sounds about right, you will be earing 2400+ by day 7

[steep dock]

i'm currently on stage 11-22

[nocturne nymph]

yep, you will be ch19 by day 7

[steep dock]

and still going

since the tips you guys gave me, I haven't gotten stuck

[steep dock]

I wanna finish chap11 before I get off

[nocturne nymph]

ok, yeah, Daimon wouldnt handle Wu Kong clones

Why does people pair Shalltear with 4 hypos, she aint Lucretia, give her 4 Cele pls

[steep dock]

is this team just a lot of support with one main dps?

[nocturne nymph]

nope, believe it or not Sonja and Rosa actually put some numbers

[steep dock]

really?? I didn't expect that

I read her thing and I seen buff

[nocturne nymph]

yeah, but need to get rid of all the clones fast or it goes downhill real quick

dont get me wrong, I like the undead boi, and thank god his furn effect is good for bossing

[steep dock]

awesome

[nocturne nymph]

I always have a chuckle when Solise the best current hero is a support one

[steep dock]

speaking of her, I have to ascend 5 heros apart of the wilder faction thing right?

[nocturne nymph]

yes

[steep dock]

5 stars on all of them?

[nocturne nymph]

nope, 0 stars is enough to unlock

[steep dock]

that might take me a bit

[nocturne nymph]

2 months aprox

the truest support move

[steep dock]

HOLY

i'm on campaign 12

[nocturne nymph]

Day 3?

btw, I see you are pushing with your own heroes, have you tried looking for a strong Duo?

[steep dock]

yes

[nocturne nymph]

[steep dock]

I have my duo, but he uses my heros

and I have his ainz whenever I need it

[nocturne nymph]

yeah, thats why I said Strong

Ainz is kinda ass early

[steep dock]

thats what I tried to tell him

thats why my shalltear has been carrying his team😭

[nocturne nymph]

Shall best carry until Solise

[steep dock]

thats gonna take a bit

also, should I save my gems? and if not what should I spend them on

[nocturne nymph]

Normal summons

[steep dock]

I was using them on the dimensional spirit summon guys

[nocturne nymph]

pls dont

once you have a good M hero per faction you may

[steep dock]

gulp..

[nocturne nymph]

its ok, shall M+ is a good break point cuz now it would take 4 spirits ti reach A

[steep dock]

yeah I seen that when I was looking what I needed for the next ascension😭

[compact wasp]

Whats a good healer in early game?

[covert jewel]

Should I stargaze twins or audrae first ?

[nocturne nymph]

Mortas

if you mean after that 1 Twins

[covert jewel]

Got a copy of each only missing audrae and twins

[steep dock]

@nocturne nymph im stuck

[nocturne nymph]

that goes into #companions-lineup-help , but, is Fawkes getting Shall into a cofin the issue?

[steep dock]

uhhh idk

[glossy gate]

Is there anyone we should full send Stargazer Tix into right now? I have a maxed Talene but I don't think anyone else is worth to pull the trigger on currently, right?

[autumn orchid]

mythic mortas for his +20 or mythic mehira for +30 if you have too many red chests

[glossy gate]

Do we already know who the next CeleHyp will be? I don't want to be starved for tickets in case it's Lucretia or someone like that

Mortas and Mehira are more for bossing, right?

[autumn orchid]

mortas is used pretty much everywhere, mehira is more of a campaign hero

[autumn orchid]

and no we don't

[glossy gate]

Alright, I'll focus on those two then, thanks!

BTW are you planning to make a SI +30 priority tier list as well?

[autumn orchid]

would be really small

basically upgrade Asol then save for the next awakened and if you are really rich in emblems there's only a handful of hero truly +30 worthy

[glossy gate]

I only have Shall and ASol on +30 currently but I am sitting on 700ish chests

[autumn orchid]

damn

[glossy gate]

I was kinda hoping for another Awakened by now haha

[autumn orchid]

we all were

[glossy gate]

Off the top of your head which heroes are truly +30 worthy currently?

[rich yoke]

Do I save dust just use them?

[autumn orchid]

Albedo, rowan, silas, lyca, mehira

not in this order

and of course the awakeneds

[glossy gate]

Cheers, appreciate it!

[rich yoke]

Is 5 the max heroes you can borrow with your duo or would it increase at later chapters?

[silver plover]

as much as you want

you can only 5 since you only have 1 team available

oh nvm

if you click on yout duo bottom leftclick on team-up gains

at 13-4 youll be able to get 10

[pseudo pecan]

Gets 15 later stages

[nocturne nymph]

even 25

[terse ginkgo]

And 30

[autumn orchid]

and 35

[pseudo pecan]

Woah

[kindred ether]

Max amount of guild members

^?

[obtuse dove]

30

[west wave]

why is this not workin i have an ascended daimon on classic

[autumn orchid]

daimon is not one of the eligible heroes

[west wave]

WHATTT

scam

[autumn orchid]

it's limited to the early heroes of afk

[west wave]

i see

thx

i got shemira to mythic its still not working so eird man

[terse ginkgo]

@nocturne nymph just realized of your statement yesterday about red chests was wrong

Not only would you over pay, but also you get access to no more Red Chest, since you are already supposed to buy them all weekly

Hence you will be overpaying for the last resource you cant spend on weelly considering you can only top 3 out of 4 in the store

And basically even if you make more arena coins the limit of reds stays the same.

[tiny saffron]

how the hell can i change my username? lol

wtf now it worked.

[orchid shard]

Is companions or classic better

Why is that?

That's very true, I've heard it's more P2W though

You do probably have a massive advantage over time as companions continues

[compact wasp]

Is my acc doomed

[celest rivet]

there's also a lot QOL changes like magic crystal not having a limit and destinies being linked to awakening level

instead of the 50 different systems in classic

[opaque cargo]

if you are a 100% character collection... probably

[compact wasp]

What does that mean-

[nocturne nymph]

Wdym you can only top 3 out of 4 in the store?

[terse ginkgo]

You can buy all silver gold and red but no SG, or 1-2

Or many SGs, and reds but no silver gold

But in any case, red chest are n1 prio

[nocturne nymph]

SGs are non negotiable, the idea is to buy all each week

[terse ginkgo]

Hence you will always get max despite the acenario

[nocturne nymph]

Buying silver and gold emblems with Arena tokens would be an awful idea

[terse ginkgo]

Well, non buying them will also lead to months of underdevelopment

While hoarding SGs to have 1 char one day

2 sides of a coin

[nocturne nymph]

People is not even hoarding, they are using them for Talene

[tardy cloud]

Does anyone have a picture of an ascension chart for A tier heroes?

[nocturne nymph]

wdym?

[terse ginkgo]

This?

[tardy cloud]

Yes. Thanks

[terse ginkgo]

Made a new graphic

for companions....

@quick ginkgo Pin this infographic I did if possible. Thanks.

[candid anvil]

does the awakened hero requirement cap out at 8 for stars or does it keep going

[slim rock]

how to get T1 etc

[candid anvil]

be in a good guild for long enough its lvl 7 or something

[slim rock]

there aren't any on my server

[nocturne nymph]

thank you

[candid anvil]

you have to wait it out like, idk at least a month maybe 2

[nocturne nymph]

it caps at 8

[nocturne nymph]

hoard Guild coins until your guild unlocks it

[candid anvil]

you just need max people doing dailies to level it up

[arctic zinc]

Should I get another dimensional hero from the hero chest or convert it to fodder for shalltear

[candid anvil]

unless you want to spend money for them or forever never have them pick a hero

[arctic zinc]

oh aight

[candid anvil]

at least get albedo

[vestal pelican]

Whos the best to focus first here ?

[nocturne nymph]

1 Mortas, 1 Twins

[vestal pelican]

thx

[jagged tusk]

Antandra or bird guy next?

[nocturne nymph]

Skriath

[jagged tusk]

Really? What's so great about him. All I know is he can group enemies right

[nocturne nymph]

that Alone is the reason you want to ascend him

cuz you cant use that without Dive1

plus his Divine5 is actually amazing for bossing

he increases Crit rate as well

[jagged tusk]

Well maybe I need him on my wishlist then

[nocturne nymph]

you sure do

[jagged tusk]

Damn ok

Thanks for the info

[nocturne nymph]

I started seeing your clears in formation suggestions

[jagged tusk]

Oh really lol

That's pretty cool

[scarlet ruin]

Skir will work good in 5 pull comps, and he is good for contorl, Antandra on the other hand is good in campaign and pvp to a degree, she becomes ubkilable with high build.

[jagged tusk]

Unkillable?

[nocturne nymph]

unkillable is an overstatement

but shes like Thane

she starts going all over the screen not able to be targeted

Alna is Truly the Unkillable one

[scarlet ruin]

If Antandra is a tad bit as is on classic server, when built she will put marks on enemies, her ultimate skill is an "iframe" she is untargetable and when she atracks the marked enemies she heals and is annoying as hell to deal with.

Later there will be stronger heroes thst will deal with her easly but now she is kinda good

[scarlet ruin]

Alna is not unkilable, she is good because she makes ally next to her imune for 5 seconds and that is broken as hell.

[jagged tusk]

Hmm OK. I mainly am saving for new strong heroes atm. Made good progress with my current heroes already

I'll probably have enough fodder for both if I use my ds scrolls tbh

[candid anvil]

whats the dim build for f2p after 3* and 1* bedo

[jagged tusk]

Surely save for new dims

[scarlet ruin]

Antandra needs a good build to be good, skir is utility character he works good as is and will be just better as you build him.

[nocturne nymph]

3* Bedo

[jagged tusk]

OK ima ascend him first

For lb and gb who is best to ascend rn @nocturne nymph

[nocturne nymph]

should be Hodgkin and Estrilda/Gwyn but I see you dont have many of those

[jagged tusk]

Yeah just from what I have rn

[nocturne nymph]

I would say

Nara and Morrow

[candid anvil]

i guess if i manage that and see any possible funds after i'll ask for next, too much going on lol

[nocturne nymph]

Bedo 3* is night and day for campaign

basically Brutus, but way better

[jagged tusk]

I was hoping you'd say that lol. Easy decision for me then ty

[candid anvil]

i figure its 3* 3* maybe one 5, or stockpile

even with the extension its rough to build them =/

[nocturne nymph]

I think the best route is Shalltear 5* and Bedo 3*, skipping Ainz altogether

[jagged tusk]

Thats great for f2p

I only have shalt 3* atm

No bedo or ainz

[candid anvil]

well i started on global launch and did a full warek skip and lot of shop not buying emblems, now its killing me in pvp lol

shits like 6k a week 😐

[nocturne nymph]

what, the emblems?

[candid anvil]

yeah just the reds is 4k already

i guess i need to just worry about them when the thane or brutus drops and focus on the small ones

[nocturne nymph]

the other way around

you should Never skip buying reds

[candid anvil]

oh

[nocturne nymph]

and instead get Silver and Gold emblems from events

[candid anvil]

alright then

well good to learn this now instead of a year too late i guess lol

[cobalt coral]

Is the new event server wide or global? The one when we pick a player to give him a frame?

[short ginkgo]

Hard to tell if we have only 2 serwers xD

[cobalt coral]

I mean is server wide (my server) or all servers from companion

[autumn orchid]

global

[short ginkgo]

Global looks like

It's be fun to compete with whales

F2p can forget about it

[cobalt coral]

But how we compete? Don’t we give points to one guy and he receive a frame?

[nocturne nymph]

if you Gift 8k flowers you get a frame

the ranking is among those receiving flowers for a diferent (bgger) frame

[cobalt coral]

We had a similar event in Classic, all server choose a guy from Reddit who pretty much did all the old guides

[nocturne nymph]

exactly that

to Aimb no?

@strange vault are you still kicking?

[cobalt coral]

Much older, Whitesushi

[nocturne nymph]

oh, right, I remember now

[cobalt coral]

@long lily to this guy I think

This, if you guys remember

[nocturne nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/aslan-do-not-cite-the-ancient-magic-to-me-witch-i-was-there-when-it-was-written-narnia-the-chronicles-of-narnia-gif-13149002

[autumn orchid]

oh yeah lmao

[nocturne nymph]

smooth ID there 👀

[autumn orchid]

everybody was saying to just gift him

[cobalt coral]

If it s companion wide I vote for Luceus or you KoT

[autumn orchid]

If I don't get top 10 I'm burning the guides down

[nocturne nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-turn-to-dust-finnicklomlgif-gif-6202351048420329284

[cobalt coral]

https://tenor.com/view/tunti35-pain-painkiller-stickmanpain-tunay-gif-22123906

[slim briar]

it was usualy egirls from china

who were top spot

or nerds girl cosplaying for a frame

[candid anvil]

its the big catfishing tournament

lot of poles, lot of lines, lot of bait, no fish tho

[full jay]

@autumn orchid is it possible to share a +30 Prio

f.e. asolise seems to be pretty obvious, but f.e I'm unsure with stuff like what priority a Rowan compared to Shalltear, Albedo etc. has

[candid anvil]

guilds hold catfishing contests during the flower frame event

on classic its like 50k spent per person on top 10 lol

at least 35k but i think thats the 10-20 spots

just a fun event for all

wait why is this questions tho lol

i mean its just out in the open in the global chats 🤷‍♂️

[slim briar]

people who care about frames in a mobile game have a very sad life

[candid anvil]

because its a long running meme i guess

anyway back to the si30 question

[slim briar]

si +30 solise >rowan>lyca

for now

evrything else its out of f2p reach even 3rd +30 its kinda far for me

other stuff like sylas +30 now its in discusion cuz of divines but not really needes

[candid anvil]

is lyca a 1-30 just the other day had someone saying 10 is a waste of the things

[slim briar]

albedo and ainz its spender teritory for now

lyca here has a different si

you can just read in game

+30 is overall good in pve and vs boses

[candid anvil]

but sitting at 10 with the 5% attack and -200 emblems vs other +10s

this post

[autumn orchid]

After Asol you start gathering for the next awakened, if none gets added and you start having too much you either go for albedo if you have built the 3 dims or rowan if you didn't
And shalltear's +30 is pretty bad

[full jay]

Tyvm ^^

[jagged tusk]

What's this flower event yall we're talking about

[autumn orchid]

#companions-chat message

[jagged tusk]

Ty bro

[austere trellis]

What does “one copy” is enough mean

Like if I get a purple Brutus should I just keep it and not focus on acending him?

[silver plover]

Means you are fine with 1 copy

Once tyou get it Elite you can change your wishlist

Brutus has a passive wich makes him inmune for some seconds, and nara pulls an enemy to your side

Nara asc doesnt change but brutus ascended gains some second on the passive if u want

I personaly left it elite

[sand narwhal]

What is it for?

[silver plover]

Top left go to event

Its to buy items, its event currency

[sand narwhal]

Hoo yup thx

[late phoenix]

What’s the best value in the firefly glow exchange event?

[nocturne nymph]

REDS

finally a good event exchange for reds

[grave light]

who do i ascend first

[nocturne nymph]

Mishka, stop making multiple L+s, focus on one at a time

[grave light]

okay

[grave light]

who do u recommend i feed to her

tassi?

[nocturne nymph]

no one, only use fodder to ascend

albeit you need to get back on track, so Tasi could be food

[grave light]

alright

[grave light]

so only the auto ascend characters?

[nocturne nymph]

the ones that start at Blue border

[grave light]

should i still get mishka ascend first if i have albedo

[nocturne nymph]

yes

[grave light]

thanks

[steep dock]

who do I pick for my second overlord character (I have shalltear)

do I build her up, or keep focusing on shalltear mainly?

okay

so I should build it like this?

hey I got my sonja to leg+

hopefully I can reach story maybe 13-14 today

[wanton current]

Wait… thats a guy ? Lmfao im done

[steep dock]

no she's a girl 😭

[slim rock]

should I pick thane or antandra from the chest

[steep dock]

@tiny saffron

[nocturne nymph]

Hogkin

unless your Antandra is already Ascended and going for stars

[slim rock]

I have enough copies to make him ascended but he is useless

[sullen lake]

who is to prio for s30?

solise?

[slim rock]

yes

which one is better

[forest bloom]

Best way to grind hero's essence

[nocturne nymph]

pushing Forked Fate and King Tower

[livid sun]

Hello guys, I maxed out Shalltear. Whi should I go for next in the overlord collab?

[nocturne nymph]

pull spirits, but dont use them unless you get enough to get Albedo to A3

[livid sun]

Ah alr then tyty

[proud turret]

When can you buy t1 t2 stones in the Shop?

[honest bear]

I think the Guild store has to be level 9 for T1 to appear. T2 seems to only be available in events at the moment.

[vestal pelican]

Do I keep using scrolls on wilders ?

Or I go another faction

[honest bear]

I think it's a good idea to keep pulling on Wilders until you have enough copies to ascend at least 5 Wilders.
That way you will be able to eventually unlock Solise.

[vestal pelican]

Thanks !

[kindred ether]

What’s something that’s high prio here

I was thinking of the t1 stones or the emblems here

[vestal pelican]

And now that my shaltear is ascended i can stop pulling for copies ? And get the new wilder

[honest bear]

Yeah, you can for sure.

[proud turret]

ah ok my guild is at 7 , 8 is mythic gear i believe , 9 are t1 then
alright ty

[honest bear]

No prob, mate 👍

[autumn orchid]

you better not

trishea is just a 4f while dims are way more limited and won't be summonable for a while

unless you want to waste sg cards

[vestal pelican]

So I keep on shaltear ? Or turn for albedo or ainz

This Is my box rn

[autumn orchid]

check pins

and avoid spending diamonds on destiny this early on

[vestal pelican]

Oh well 3 stars and then albedo i see

And ok i use my diamonds on the normal pulls more ? Because I lack a lot of food tbh

Or on trisha but since you told me not too i will not @autumn orchid

[autumn orchid]

yes

destiny has horrible value for new players diamond wise

[vestal pelican]

Thanks

[silver turret]

What’s best between using diams on normal summon or destiny summon for new wilder pls ?

[honest bear]

Depends on how long you have been playing. They say newer players should focus on normal summons.
I'm not sure about that though with the new Wilder, because some players have already shown she's good in multiple areas, and you could build her up to work towards ASolise, so I don't know... Might depend on how many gems you have. Gems are always coming in, early game, mid game, late game... Summon scrolls, too.

I remember when I was new, I wanted to pull on destiny summons for Nevanthi, and I ended up regretting not pulling for her because Nev is great and it ended up taking me longer than other players to get ASolise.

You should check with other players around here though, because they will definitely disagree with me.

At least see what they have to say.

Does anyone know how good ATalene is (in companions)?

[proud turret]

what would be the best thing to get in the valentines event?

[honest bear]

Emblems, mythic emblems/red chests highest priority.

[rich yoke]

Is there free skin besides Rowan, brutus and the sheep event?

[kindred ether]

Anyway to bypass this

[autumn orchid]

talene can just revive

[kindred ether]

4 supports then?

[grave light]

should i pull dimensional hoods in star gazing

[obtuse dove]

NO

100%

[west wave]

can you beat shalltear in pvp without investing in her tho? genuine question

[obtuse dove]

Also NO

Without Shalltears, you hardly can stay at top 10 early

Unless you play whale enough to have Asolise ofc.

[west wave]

yeah so ur cooked unless you spend all your diamonds on destinty early?

[honest bear]

Only because Shalltear is one of the best heroes in companions at the moment.

It's also why I wrote the long response to Hugo a bit further up. I know that those who advise against it aren't entirely wrong in warning new players against destiny summons.

The good thing about pulling for the dims is that we get fodder from all of the 4f factions.

If I remember correctly, pulling on a 4f hero only produces fodder from the same faction as the 4f hero, which is another thing that should be taken into consideration, just as a side note.

FWIW, I think it is what it is... A tricky situation.

[west wave]

So going full Trishea would be an option as well?

[honest bear]

Personally, I think so. We have solid evidence that she's decent. She has a niche in PvP (snow field/stage she can ult, others cannot) that is useful in Alliance Contest because almost all the top players use the snow stage, she's been seen dishing out a lot of damage in campaign, and she does good damage against bosses (possibly a decent option for ABEX as well). It also helps with getting ASolise, as I mentioned further above.

And, importantly, she has just been released, meaning that there's still plenty of time to get scrolls and gems to summon for her.
Ideally, you would want to summon over 400 times though, that's where it can be a bit of a problem.

So when I think a new player is ok to summon on destiny summons, I think someone who has been playing for a few weeks, has established their main 4f heroes, and has banked up gems and scrolls.

A brand spanking new player should save up a bit of resources first.

The dim event ended up being extended by a lot of time - I think it ended up being close to 50 days total. There has been plenty of time to go for Shalltear, and I think it's still not too late.

I hope what I've written is at least food for thought.

[west wave]

yup helpful thx

[honest bear]

No worries 👍

[wary yew]

mehira + rowan comp still viable in companions team?

[tardy cloud]

Yo, is it actually possible to get a 1000 summons in 2 days as f2p or is it just click bait?

If it is possible, could someone tell me how?

[glad sapphire]

In two days its possible with a wallet only

[tardy cloud]

Thank you

[tepid sorrel]

awesome insight, tnx @honest bear, I was looking for some food for thoughts as a brand new player as well

[silver turret]

What’s best between using diams on normal summon or destiny summon for new wilder pls ?

[quasi flint]

for dimensionals

new heros are too expensive

just wait for them 3 weeks

[west wave]

is wukong any good chat

[quasi flint]

no

[west wave]

aw man

[strong bear]

Guys how does vault of time work

I conquered some village near someone from my guild and all of a sudden all his land is mine

Did I just kill him off like

[rich citrus]

Are there any units that pair extremely well in a shalltear team for bosses or pushing stages?

[nocturne nymph]

is a guild event, by connecting to other players land everyone can "move" through it

[nocturne nymph]

its doable in like 5-7 days

[vestal pelican]

Whos the next I should focus ? To ascend

[golden python]

Lyca or Nevanthi imo

[short ginkgo]

Lyca

[dreamy cave]

Summon dim spirits (to lv Albedo or ainz) or normal summons?

[nocturne nymph]

is your Albedo E currently?

[dreamy cave]

yes, both Ainz and albedo base form

[nocturne nymph]

then Normal summons, you wont get them to a decent point with whats left on the event

[dreamy cave]

Even if only albedo? at least to mythic?

[nocturne nymph]

I would summon for spirits but dont use them until next dim is announced

[dreamy cave]

is there any new when its gonna be announced?

[nocturne nymph]

nope

[crimson nova]

i have the hero chest and is it better to get 20 stargrazer scrolls or hero audrae

[west wave]

should i A my estrilda or wait until i get one more copy of sonja to get her to M

[cobalt coral]

Keep the chest for later

[crimson nova]

ok

[cobalt coral]

How hard is to get a 6 pet skill @nocturne nymph

[nocturne nymph]

H A R D

for starters, we have no idea of how the slots work

[cobalt coral]

Combining 2 5 attributes not helping?

[nocturne nymph]

like, at base an A Pet has 4 slots, thus when you combine Two 4 slots theres the chance of getting 5 slots, but no idea if its possible to go straight into 6 slots by good luck

I remember than when combinig a 5 slot with a 4 slot it is posible to obtain a 4 slot result

[nocturne nymph]

I wonder if Two 5 slots guarantees 5 slots minimum

they should have made Combine at M rank , having them to get to A just to gamble is bs

[supple carbon]

It's a pure scam and the devs are aware, they just won't do anything about it

[rich cape]

its pure random with no sense look at this

[nocturne nymph]

ayeee, 6 slots from two 4

dully noted

[rich cape]

and the 6th is from rng god himself

that mauler MP isnt in any of the two pets

it just spawned

[nocturne nymph]

oh yeah, what actually gets into the slots has nothing to do with the Parents original slots

[rich cape]

not if you read all the text that "explain it"

[nocturne nymph]

well, it has One thing to do

the posible outcome

[rich cape]

it rolls random perks from "two of the pets" where mauler mp?

[nocturne nymph]

like, if you combine, say, with a Green ball, but the green ball has non faction Atk, Def, HP

the outcome pet can have Wilder specific atk

[nocturne nymph]

fixed my statement

[rich cape]

if it actually works like that its wild

[rich cape]

they dont, had two 5 slots and the outcome was 4 slot

[nocturne nymph]

that sucks more than expected

[rich cape]

I gave up after that

now 20 pets chilling and waiting for some revamp of this dumb system

[nocturne nymph]

yeah, I stopped summoning pets other than the 20 for the weekly BP quest

[rich cape]

I'm still summoning because its easier to get owl and deer when we have less pets but will stop soon and dont use it at all before some rework

it will marinate like GG in afk classic

[nocturne nymph]

true

[rich cape]

@autumn orchid @uncut python or someone on a server that already have 6 teams in DR.
Does DR teams increase after 6 teams or is it max like in classic?

[arctic harness]

Its max

[uncut python]

max I think

Been 6 for a long time don't think they plan on increasing it

[nocturne nymph]

Test also only has 5 Teams + Boss

[keen crag]

galera boa noite

quais personagens devemos focar para chegar campanha 30?

[nocturne nymph]

#companions-questions message

[vague stream]

Yo what is the best item to exchange for as newbie in the firefly glow

[nocturne nymph]

"Red chests, if this is the first event on your server, Silver and Gold Emblems instead"

[vague stream]

First event?

[nocturne nymph]

Yeah, like if there hasn't been another exchange event before

[wanton current]

Switch faction focus and tavern elite cards to graveborns after asolise ? Or keep grinding stars ? Also.. switch wishlist focus ?

[nocturne nymph]

Wdym switch Wishlist focus?

[wanton current]

Switch wilders out before they are 3 star ? I figured id just keep them there till 3 star

Like green lady has 3 star waiting for her

So i swap her out now with oku

[nocturne nymph]

3 stars is the sweet spot, however you gotta look at their divinity effects to see if their 5 star is worth it

[wanton current]

Okay cool. But what about faction scrolls and stuff ? should i swap focus to graveborns after asolise ?

[nocturne nymph]

Nevanthi, Eironn and Mishka are heroes that want 5 stars

[nocturne nymph]

Yeah, you could do that after ASolise

[wanton current]

Got it ! Thanks

[rich yoke]

Can you still switch guilds if the spire contest is ongoing?

Also, if you join a guild during the event can you participate on it?

[nocturne nymph]

yes, but your previous contributions wont count for the dristribution

[grave light]

should i star gaze talene or save the bookmarks

[wary yew]

should i make mishka, rowan or shalltear +10 first?

i could also wait for fodder to make nevathi M to +10 (6 copies) or make silas/lyca/tasi M to +10 (7 copies)

[covert prairie]

How do I unlock tavern wishlist? From what I gathered its a certain amount of pulls. However I've done 50 and not unlocked it yet

[wary yew]

oki thanks!

[covert prairie]

Ah thanks, I have read different numbers so I was confused

[nocturne nymph]

Latest info we got was 60, let me know if it does show on your 60

[chilly falcon]

hows Trishea so far, any thoughts?

[covert prairie]

Yes it did. Thank you!

[ivory citrus]

Hello, what should I buy in this event?

[nocturne nymph]

"Red chests, if this is the first exchange event on your server, Silver and Gold Emblems instead"

[plush cave]

Keep or nah?

[deep marten]

+10, sonja, daimon or shemira? @nocturne nymph

@autumn orchid

[autumn orchid]

daimon

[rich yoke]

In the share event, if you already used your account to support someone, can you support another if its in a new server? Example I support someone using my account on 113 and created an account in 115

[plush cave]

Should i pick these two? Or ???

[autumn orchid]

try to go for smth better than flora

[plush cave]

What about mortas?

I can reroll for flora

Is there a lucky bag guide?

[cobalt coral]

Pick Mortas

And reroll Flora into Mehira, Talene or SG cards

[plush cave]

Ow

Alr
and what is the reward for the 5 invite?

I can try using another family member phone to use my invite so just wondering.

[chilly falcon]

do Trishea or finish albedo and start Ainz?

[autumn orchid]

10 gold tickets

[plush cave]

Pick this or ?

I still have 8 more

Oof im replying to a different message.

[plush cave]

@cobalt coral

[rich yoke]

When to pop dust? Is it when your stuck or at later stages like in classic?

[cobalt coral]

Man

If I told you to pick Mehira and Talene

Why you ask me again what to pick

[plush cave]

Just wondering

Like which one better

[cobalt coral]

Talene

For mehira you need one copy

Technically you can M her and make her SI30

But that s just crazy and expensive

[plush cave]

Ah ok

[slim rock]

which premium unit should I make ascended

[nocturne nymph]

What's a premium unit?

[nocturne nymph]

"wait at least until you get to Main campaign ch21 and Forked ch19 and have pushed both campaigns and King Tower until you cant clear no mater changes on your teams or retries, then you can consider using them"

[rich yoke]

Wdym consider using them? Like it's the minimum requirement?

What about the optimal, I mean when would you open them to get the maximum value

[nocturne nymph]

Optimal would be, dust to reach 261, and exp for the 301 onwards

[rich yoke]

What? 261? 301?

[nocturne nymph]

lvl

[rich yoke]

Then does it not contradict your 1st statement, my level is 160 and my campaign is ch 22 but my forked is just 15 and I can't push it further

So do I use it now or after I reach forked 19, like I reach the optimal but not the minimum

[nocturne nymph]

Optimal would be dust to go from 260 to 261

And exp to lvl 301+

[rich yoke]

Oh sorry, I misread it

[nocturne nymph]

To be precise how many heroes you got at lvl 160?

[rich yoke]

All

[rich yoke]

Why?

[glad sapphire]

Hey there! My ID is 215757, and I’m trying to make it into the top 100. Any flowers you can send my way would mean a lot and be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much for your support!

[nocturne nymph]

To gauge how "stuck" you are

[slim rock]

hypogeans and celestials

[undone cradle]

What are the best stats for deer pet and owl pet?

[nocturne nymph]

Atk and Magic Pierce

[full jay]

dmg and health since it multiplies with the dmg and health from faction bonus

beside that magic pierce on deer

[nocturne nymph]

Ideally, Atk, Faction Atk and Magic Pierce

[undone cradle]

So if I have two Ascended deer and neither have magic pierce or faction atk should I wait to combine them?

[full jay]

u could lose and reroll defensive stats aswell 💀

[undone cradle]

😭

[full jay]

post them in, do you think that they are bad -> go on do it

do you think they're fine = leave it and wait for other reroll

do you think they're good = def keep

[undone cradle]

Wdym by post them in?

[full jay]

well the 4 stats from both deers

deer 1, atk, hp, def ... etc.

[nocturne nymph]

"the system is currently awful, stay away from it unless you have like 3 A pets of the same kind"

[undone cradle]

Deer 1: DEF, Faction HP, ATK, HP

Deer 2: Faction DEF, DEF, ATK, HP

They’re so bad 😂

[full jay]

ig, no pierce no double atk stats isnt perfect but i think the 1st one is fine

[nocturne nymph]

Solise can actually scale some of her dmg from HP

[full jay]

i believe currently that faction buff and pets multiply well

like faction hp is a lot

if u use 5 wilder and compare both deer u should notice it significantly

[undone cradle]

When I go to equip a pet it says both give the same number increase to my power

[full jay]

yea because the deer itself has a combat power

but the buff it gives doesnt

e mortas also gives 40% atk, but is like almost 0 combat power f.e.

[undone cradle]

Gotcha

So should I combine them? The whole system seems so bad 😂

[full jay]

no

the 1st one is fine

[undone cradle]

When I combine them do the stats reroll?

[full jay]

++ if u look in #companions-suggestions you can also see that you literally could end up on the same level

[undone cradle]

Ah

[full jay]

yea it rerolls but its flawed atm

[undone cradle]

That’s awful

[full jay]

^
I'd do as knightofthorns said

[undone cradle]

I’m just struggling in pvp rn bc the other two in top 3 have a beast with 5 stats

[full jay]

thats rough, are you just out of top 10?

[undone cradle]

No im in top 3 but we keep beating eachother lol

And I would likely win more if my beast was as good as them

[nocturne nymph]

Imma be honest fam, Pet is likely not the main reason

[full jay]

top3 is the same, i believe there is top 10, top 5 and 1st

[undone cradle]

I beat them when I fight them

They beat me when they fight me

[nocturne nymph]

That's how it works

[full jay]

yea thats how pvp currently goes for many people

[undone cradle]

Whoever is on during calculations wins lol

[nocturne nymph]

You can't have a unbeatable defense unless you have more of everything

[undone cradle]

When I fight them my whole team is alive lol

[dusky hound]

make a healing formation in frost arena, they most liely can't out dps the healing if you have ASolise

for defensive formation ofc

[full jay]

aSolise, nevanthi, rowan defensive in frost is toxic 💀

[dusky hound]

yep exactly xD

[undone cradle]

Have a recommendation? This is my box

This is what people are running. We all just recently swapped to frost lol

[full jay]

yea you guys are pretty much even, you have the basic frost comp there like there isnt much else to say xd

[undone cradle]

Would a nevanthi on defense be better than lyca or mishka?

[full jay]

100%

than lyca

[undone cradle]

I also have talene ascended

[full jay]

mishka is necessary with his summons with nevanthi, his summons get haste and is pretty good

in frost talene doesnt do much tbf

[undone cradle]

Bet, thanks for the help

Should I prioritize nevanthi or Rowan for mythic gear equipping (I have a bunch of hypo/cel mythic gear) (my ASolise has all mythic gear already equipped)

[full jay]

i'd do nevanthi since she scales with hp, rowan is just there to chill and give his potions

like idk fighting is so weird

u summon in frost aSolise spirits, mishka wolves and then try to heal and stall xdd

[west wave]

why is the snow map meta for arena?

[full jay]

defensive stalling

u summon with Mishka and aSolise, and then u just keep them with rowan, asolise and nevanthi base heals alive

[west wave]

is the goal to get a timeout???

[full jay]

yep

timeout or overwhelm

[west wave]

oh i see thats kind of a gay strategy ngl

idm tho do you need asolise to use it tho

[full jay]

i mean, asolise heals a lot with her base bounce attack and summons spirits - so she is optimal for it

without them idk if u could do a good frost

maybe u could try ainz, albedo, shalltear, with rowan and talene

but i wouldnt ice then, because their ults are good

and if u dont use ice and dont have a good talene I'd go even so far and use mortas if ur at an earlier stage

[west wave]

i see

[west wave]

i dint have a good built ainz and shalltear unfortunately

my server is still stuck on chapter 22 strength

i keep bouncing between top 1 and 9 in arena w this comp

i thought maps were random tbh

[full jay]

i mean u could use the green froest and buff your shalltear

aswell as using something like talene and audrae for another buff

• talene is pretty annoying since enemy shalltear can get stuck on it

audrae has good base damages even without much investment, like as a base

[west wave]

so i shiuld swap out rowan for audrae i got her e+

[west wave]

alright

[full jay]

audrae instead of lyca more likely but yeah

mishka and talene front
shalltear middle
audrae and rowan back

(could try if lyca is stronger)

aswell as using owl or deer pet, if possible

[west wave]

i see alright ill try this then thx

[full jay]

np gl

[terse ginkgo]

Oku also great stall in snow

And Talene, Silas, Shalltear,

[west wave]

number one again i failed first attempt then switched position of rowan and audrae left and right and won

[west wave]

i wish i had more copies…

[full jay]

^^ you'll get em later on

im unsure whether i should use trishea in my snow comp tho

[crimson nova]

what do u guys think is better to put in my comp
i have front shalltear rowan middle Daimon top and Layca bot idk if brutus is better than lucius(still early stages of the game whole party is lvl 120)

and what map do u recon is best to put in pvp

[west wave]

how much did u spend on the game for for reference

[full jay]

idk if lvl 120 lyca is that good, do you have audrae already?

she is decent early on and can fit in, help ya getting a 3 piece for +10%

[full jay]

1030

[west wave]

any recs on what packs are worth?

i might dolph out

[full jay]

i was way to late tbf

[crimson nova]

i have a chest to get her but im unsure if i should use it on her or 20 starglazer scrolls

[full jay]

and did it a few days ago after 3 weeks, but personally i'd recommend getting:

battlepasses, monthly cards and the crossover packs with ainz/albedo/shalltear and from the crossover scrolls u can also summon the new hero and get lots of wilder fodder

i f.e. stopped with albedo and shalltear and only have 980 summon on those and no build

[crimson nova]

im pretty new to the game so can u explain what do u mean about the 3 piece

is there like an equipment that is like a set for bonuses

[full jay]

ye get her its good

there are faction bonuses for getting 3 of a kind, 4 of a kind and 5 of a kind together

aswell as there are celes and hypos, audrae is f.e. a celes and can fit with any faction

hypos give their buff also disregarding factions on the board

[west wave]

alright i see did you buy out every overlord pack for that matter?

the 100 euros one seems a little less interesting

[full jay]

nah its like this stuff

[crimson nova]

ahhhh

[full jay]

i actually only bought out one pack completly, but if I oculd redo I'd probably have bought 2 and spend less on 3k gem summons for the crossover and more on 2700 summons to get more wilders for aSolise and so on

since u get plenty of souls from the crossover packs

[crimson nova]

btw what do u think is better for spending my gems for a lot of people said to just buy regular packs while others said to buy arena tickets and save it for an event that might come later

[full jay]

but get albedo and shalltear 5*

albedo will buff furture dims with her +30

[west wave]

alright i see!

[full jay]

depends if ur f2p get atleast shalltear to 3* and spend on shalltear summons

[crimson nova]

im f2p