companions-chat

[stray thunder]

RIP

[dusky forge]

i mean for arena i was almost top 10 but then i got double sniper to 40 : (

[stray thunder]

dam. i m fine in aren( for now). but was backstabed by a guildmate to 47

or was it 57 icr

[dusky forge]

i mean my guildmates usually try to snipe me but that is fine for me since i can just take someone elses place

[stray thunder]

haha tru. but i was asleep...

[dusky forge]

my teams are easiest to beat in top 30 afterall

because i am the only non whale in them

[stray thunder]

lol yeah. but i dont attack them.

[stray thunder]

🍻

[dusky forge]

me neither i don't attack my guildmates

[stray thunder]

yes bro

🫂

[dusky forge]

but i am pretty carried by being able to use my teammates heroes but atleast the dps ones are mine

[stray thunder]

yeah i usually borrow mishka haha

she has beef with me

[dusky forge]

far less than what i borrow

[stray thunder]

i borrow other too 😂 but mishka is the main one

[dusky forge]

i just borrow everything that is better than my one's except for my walker team since that is what i mainly build anyway so it's pretty good

[stray thunder]

i keep my tatsu hehe. and also light Bs.

[dusky forge]

i mean yeah i keep everything that i have atleast 3 stars on

[stray thunder]

yep yep. same here.

it helps that we can borrow others heroes... coz we cant have all alone lol

[dusky forge]

i mean i could probably do fine with just my own but ii definetly could not compete with the whales that way

[warm lagoon]

I love the way the new Ascension is

[sand crest]

What the hell are these orbs

For ascension

[warm lagoon]

It turns them into like acorns like in journey

[rain rapids]

Is this game still alive?

[warm lagoon]

Of course this game still alive

[sand crest]

I guess i dont understand how id ascend then

[warm lagoon]

Go to one of your heroes that is elite Plus

[rain rapids]

Tbh idk what to do is this game f2p

[sand crest]

Do i just do that?

[warm lagoon]

Yeah pretty much and then you can go to where your hero bag is instead of the Ascension trying

[rain rapids]

Do u prefer this game or idle heroes?

[warm lagoon]

Yes I prefer this game to idle heroes the classic and the companions version I prefer classic more though

[rain rapids]

Ahh i see the game’s priotity is companion i guess so i should play that

[warm lagoon]

I think you are playing companions

You might want to try the classic form

[rain rapids]

I havent played the game in months yet so idk

[warm lagoon]

@rain rapids to ascend heroes you don't need as much food

[sand crest]

It reset all my elite + heroes

Interesting

[rain rapids]

To what are u comparing right now?

Companion and classic?

[warm lagoon]

They turned into those orbs you don't need the blue border heroes anymore

[warm lagoon]

Idle heroes

[rain rapids]

Aha well i’ll play the one that is more free to play

[timid briar]

you need the same amount just don't need to bother elevating theme

[rain rapids]

This game’s more free to play right

[warm lagoon]

I'm talking about another game all together called idle heroes you need a pile of food in that game

[timid briar]

oh

[sand crest]

So should i retire the elite pippa to get orbs to upgrade my mythic pippa

[warm lagoon]

Imagine after you get a hero ascended to give them a star you need another nine Star

[timid briar]

no

[timid briar]

click on the M pipa

it will show you need 4 e copy

[timid briar]

[warm lagoon]

Plus a copy of the hero you're trying to start up

[sand crest]

Ahhhh i see

[timid briar]

so same amount of food just no need to do any elevation basicaly

[warm lagoon]

Plus you can retire the extra copies of five star heroes you got until you need to make them the higher tier

[timid briar]

happy i don't play that

[warm lagoon]

What is it called after you make a hero five star on AFK arena companions

[rain rapids]

Fuse?

[warm lagoon]

No believe it or not I think it's called transcended

[rain rapids]

🤔 dont u play the game

[warm lagoon]

Yes I play the game but I can't remember what it's called

I don't have it unlocked yet

[stray thunder]

That's good but i wood(lol) definitely struggle

[stray thunder]

yes. its called transcendence. need twenty five A5 heroes first

[wicked raft]

Anyone max luci yet lol

[rain rapids]

Wait wow

That will take years f2p

[maiden hare]

I think it took about ~400 days for the 1st f2p to get them

[rain rapids]

Wooow ( we talking abt idle heroes right?)

[maiden hare]

no afk companions

[warm lagoon]

Thank you

[hollow flume]

Honestly, if one knows what to do, then less than a year.

Using faction scrolls on Meta Wilder, and keep at least one (Trishea) on the wishlist for transcendent.

[rain rapids]

Do i do that even when im like fresh new

[hollow flume]

Wilder is the best faction among 4F. So yes. I suggest you to do so.

[rain rapids]

I see thank you imma make a new account on champions rn🙏

[hollow flume]

but it's gonna take you time tho -.-

I can't imagine myself restarting the game .
-# quite tedious

[mint dove]

You can call me stupid or whatever
How am I supposed to reach transcend grezhu

[hollow flume]

Oh look to your left, there is a "retire hero" tab I think.

[mint dove]

Ah , highly appreciated

[hollow flume]

😸 ko có gì

[mint dove]

[crystal patrol]

I can finally use these damn fodder summons up

[timber cipher]

old fodder and e+ heroes are currently bugged?

[timber cipher]

@vale abyss - gonna leave that here.

[stray thunder]

that would lol.

[timber cipher]

atleast i got a good pull for Lucilla and can test her on e+ ig

[stray thunder]

bro got two at once...damn you lucky ppl

[timber cipher]

got lucky for sure but also pulled 50 times for that

[leaden briar]

Will they add unequip button to somewhere?

[timber cipher]

O wtf

[stray thunder]

🫡

[timber cipher]

we dont even have unequip equip buttons

XDD

@ebon sand will be toasted

thats it with swapping gear around

[stray thunder]

yeah i was wondering

and i cant see how many copies of a hero i have while ascending untill i hit mythical plus

[ebon sand]

You guys missed the button

It's in that area, gotta scroll down

You have a retire heroes option

[timber cipher]

omg

you're so good

holy y0m

[ebon sand]

That disappears after it's used

[stray thunder]

it indeed did

[ebon sand]

I had not seen it either, a guild mate had to help me

[timber cipher]

i was cooked

[ebon sand]

I was scared shitless

[timber cipher]

i was so mad

xD

[stray thunder]

u didn't know ?

[timber cipher]

no

i just logged in

they changed the ui

how should I know xD

[stray thunder]

lol i see

[wicked raft]

How is she doing in preliminary testing?

[timber cipher]

i just pulled her idk

[stray thunder]

i just click every red dot...they distract e

me

[wicked raft]

What packs do you usually buy to hoard that many gazers?

[timber cipher]

if people will tell me their tests I'll see I think webb has her build and could ask for max testing

[timber cipher]

just the weekly for point activity and the perk store

all others are "expensive"

[leaden briar]

If you dont have equipment on hero or better one available equip button appear but I dont see unequip one

[timber cipher]

Yea but you can shift equipment easily around anymore

unequip all and swap it between two heroes

was fast

[signal needle]

Should I be spending gems on summons as a player new to companions? Currently stuck on chapter 5

[timber cipher]

now you have to unequip all party 1 by 1

[leaden briar]

yeah I didnt like it 😭

[timber cipher]

and fast equip them to another one

[stray thunder]

only for dimensionals is i would suggest to an f2p

[signal needle]

So nothing for rn since no event right?

[stray thunder]

yes sir

[signal needle]

Ok ty

[stray thunder]

save them for dimensials, red chests

there are guides on what to spend the diamonds on in early phase

its on "tap b for bacon" youtube channel. or you can just search it up for any other youtubers

[signal needle]

Ohh on YouTube I was boutta say I was searching in here and couldn’t find anything lol, but alr I’ll check them out

[stray thunder]

haha it happens. you can find more guides in the pins section of #companions-questions

[lusty plank]

@timber cipher i'm glad i'm not the only one that shit themselves when they opened the game

i just got my last copy for a t1 Nev

and when the game showed me 2/8 I started panicking

then they told me abt the thing on the left panel

i like how they implemented something NO ONE asked for

[timber cipher]

i thought they'd do something more "obvious" than a one time banner

like actually using the rickety card for what is was meant for lmao

[lusty plank]

they just made a day 1 feature useless

so what now, they may as well delete the temple of ascension

[timber cipher]

i mean it is qol and it didnt break my place

but like it didnt make sense at all to implement it unguided like that yea xD

[lusty plank]

in what way does this help new players? most scrubs will still make a ton of L heroes

fodder or souls

nothing will change

[timber cipher]

btw for e+ and "no gear" i think lucilla deals quite a high amount of dmg

[lusty plank]

she should be very good, and it means next patch should be Liberta

i expected them to come in like 2027 lmao

but Lilith knows what sells

so they're adding 2023 era celes now

[timber cipher]

tho liberta might be not as cracked

[lusty plank]

and hypos obv

[lusty plank]

she's only cracked with Lib

anyways she fell off on classic ngl

Lib can be used in stall comps cuz of her revive

[timber cipher]

i think they'll put in liberta with training wheels

[lusty plank]

pepegasus

[lusty plank]

lmao

[timber cipher]

hmm not too sure

even mira doesnt deal her high cap in stall

you're lucky if you get her to survive

if i build a team around mira she deals 2B+

in my stall setups mira deals like 300-500m

[lusty plank]

i don't even think Lucilla is supposed to rly be used for dmg

moreso for buffing no?

that's how i've always used her in my comps

[timber cipher]

ngl i didnt read through her yet

[lusty plank]

[timber cipher]

i just read she steals stats from enemies

also breaking shields might help against pve salaki some more - thats atleast nice

or well to be accurate preventing to gain shield

her cheat death is nice - and that if shes with liberta there will be more cheat deaths is even nicer

but im not sure if shes survivable enough for companions

in worst case she suffers the laios issue

moves up -> dies

[ebon sand]

Used all my pulls hoping for Lorsan copies, I only got 2, I had 500 scrolls, 5 epic soul stones, 40 faction scrolls and 7 pity cards

I got an extra copy of Selene, a Zikis and a Mehira though

Which is nice for Mehira cuz she's mythic now

And also got Brutus and Numisu to T3

This new update made realize I don't have enough Trish copies for when I unlock T4

It takes 16 copies it's crazy

What used to be 8 e+

[timber cipher]

tbf lorsan is mostly good for his damage link and does that on low copies already

[timber cipher]

yep annoying prep work

believe I asked fantasy because somebody asked how much i t was for t4

[ebon sand]

Lol, bruddah

[timber cipher]

tho im quite far off from unlocking t4

[ebon sand]

I only need one more T3 now

[timber cipher]

i will just take trish out of the wishlist and put others in but some key heroes like trish and mira I kinda want prepared for t4 already

[ebon sand]

I think a Belinda copy and I'm done for T4

[sterile agate]

This gotta be top 3 most stupid update in AFK Companions

[timber cipher]

they did a bad explanation - they should've locked us into a tutorial xD

[stray thunder]

Are there any chances of them throwing dimensional or collab event in the upcoming 2 to 3 months?

[bronze bloom]

An update none asked for btw

[timber cipher]

prob in 3 months-ish

[stray thunder]

Yep yep

[ebon sand]

Nah it's actually decent, the stupid part is simply not putting a big button when you log in like they do with the banners

Because getting rid of the fodder heroes saves a lot of space

[bronze bloom]

How is even useful the update? It was working just fine already and now the whole thing is glitchy too

[sterile agate]

How much space do you need? You have 300 places

[ebon sand]

What glitch?

[sterile agate]

Now blues are stuck in inventory

[stray thunder]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm 🤔 i m thinking of burning all my scrolls and probably diamonds for trisha.... I'm scared of missing out on dimensional later on lol

[bronze bloom]

Sometimes u won’t even get the coins but the heroes

[ebon sand]

I constantly had to retire e+ and L heroes it was annoying af

[bronze bloom]

I’m getting half heroes half coins when I’m pulling so idk man

[stray thunder]

You can't get rid of the last one copies of each fodder

[stray thunder]

🤔

[timber cipher]

can only say that there is atleast nothing to be teased by bearr

[stray thunder]

😂 😂.

[timber cipher]

on april is aniversery event tho which is more often nice - and after that in may of last year we had the next dims

so prob may is gonna be next dims

plus minus

[stray thunder]

Ooh i see. 👍

Yeah i might take it up and do some spending lol but will try to save some haha

Thanx for the info man

[timber cipher]

[timber cipher]

most resourceful things are the weekly 3000-3500% offers (activity point deals)

the monthly battle pass

and the monthly cards

spend smart if you only plan to spent 200$ for example - stretch it out with the best value deals over a longer period.

[stray thunder]

I see i see. Though I'm an f2p but thnx for the tip

[bronze bloom]

200

For 200 u get 10 pulls stargaze kekw

[timber cipher]

you can go quite deep with 200

[stray thunder]

😂

[bronze bloom]

Deep out of the game

[stray thunder]

Lmao bro.

[bronze bloom]

U can get a frame though, a small one for 200

[timber cipher]

i mean if you only focus on the activity point bundle 800 mithril a week

and you have 21000 mithril from 200$ (depending on region maybe even more)

you get 15 sg a week for 800 mithril

and in 26 weeks (round about 6 months) you end up with 400 stargazer for 200$

of you spent impulsively you'll end up with far less.

spending consistently on those higher value deals lets you budget stuff and you can skip impulsive bad decision offers as a spender

it is still burnt money for digital pixels - but if it makes ya fun - it is the smarter way to burn less money.

[bronze bloom]

Idk which one u talk about, the cheapest I see for 40 stargaze pulls is after once you buy premium for 20$ then u invest 29.21$ per 40 meaning its 292$ for 400

let alone stargazers bc celes-hypos are not as good as dimensionals, so u don’t really have to p2w for them, it’s mostly about the red emblems which make a big different

[timber cipher]

you get weekly special offers

for reaching specific activity points

and these cost 3$ / 5$

in mithril value 300 / 500

you're just being stupid and wrong.

if you dont like p2w or dont like gaccha system I get that

and that this game is heavy p2w is something that most people are aware of as most f2p mobile gacchas are

but if you want to burn your money - calculate it through and do it smart

[bronze bloom]

Wow calm down with the toxicity buddy, I just made an affirmation, even though they are cheaper, I can tell what’s ur iq by the fact u resort to toxicity

[timber cipher]

How is calling you dumb toxic?

[bronze bloom]

Instead of arguing u resorted to toxicity bcs u were affected by the statements i made which are true

[timber cipher]

Ok, you're right and I've my peace - we're both happy now?

[bronze bloom]

The issue it’s not stargazing, it’s the emblems mostly, bcs dimensionals are much better than celes hypos, u need around 5-10 bands to compete

[woeful eagle]

why would he need to argue if he's right 🧍🏼‍♂️

[bronze bloom]

Ok bro zip it up when you’re done

[bronze bloom]

Right in what btw smartie?

[woeful eagle]

about the weekly bundles homie

[timber cipher]

at that point you're just ragebaiting

[bronze bloom]

Yes there is activity points that can get them cheaper as he says, but still 200$ it’s nothing in this game stop daydreaming

[timber cipher]

You're pretty wrong tho - if you want to compete with other p2w you need to adjust to their p2w.

And depending on that it could be 5 bands, it could be 10 bands or it could be much more.

Competing in a p2w means competing against the credit card of the other person.

[bronze bloom]

• investing in stargaze it’s bad advice too, u need red emblems investment not stargaze cards

[timber cipher]

This game is a marathon and if you choose better options you need to spend less money.

[woeful eagle]

what am i daydreaming about im confused

[timber cipher]

Your point was you dont get stargazers for 200$, I told you exactly how much you get when min-maxing - what is your problem?

[bronze bloom]

Nahh 5-10 bands is enough for the actual game, if u have sig 30 5 teams what u need more?

it’s not like u going to get sig 30 on useless heroes like wth

[timber cipher]

1 fabled pet on a2+ destroys 5x SI 30 heroes.

you're kinda wrong on that aswell too

so if you want to min max you get 2x pega, 2x bunny build up and have a5 +20 teams instead.

[bronze bloom]

Pets + sig 30 + 5x5 heroes, btw but lack of 1 pet wont make a big difference

It still will be rng moreover in PvP

if both teams has the same good heroes, it’s rng + positioning

Campaign idc, most important are events bosses PvP

[timber cipher]

imo most heroes make little impact - aside from the ones with the keyword "untargetability" like sjw/shalltear

[woeful eagle]

pets make or break arena

fabled pets at least

[bronze bloom]

Well yeah, sadly shalltear wasn’t on my server so w/e but sjw makes a diff in PvP, but the wilder team just stomps always anyways

[timber cipher]

dream realm bosses - also you have few keyheroes that are mostly the same in almost all rotations

and the difference between +20/+30 belinda, +20/+30 walker e.g. is very little - close to none.

[bronze bloom]

Yeah walker belinda are so op, for some reason the f2p heroes gap all the p2w stargaze heroes, besides talene atm which is good in all modes

That’s why I even said it’s not rly good idea to invest in stargaze now, when u got op free champs to craft

[timber cipher]

and you get like 6x 285 red emblems for 75$ which is a full +30

considering you can cap out on most of these things with 10-15 heroes on +30 for all modes in companions

you wont be at 5 bands at the end of the day with smart spending

you can be if you're impulsive - but if you choose your swipes on the times where it matters - you'll be surprised

[maiden hare]

OP cele/hypo will come with time, stacking on cards will get you ahead and you shouldn’t buy any other SG deal except the weekly offer one anyway if you are not whaling

Not focusing on something because there is no actual need as of now is not the way

[bronze bloom]

well depends how fast or slow you want to be on top, bcs in time y will get there anyways so yeah, how mu ch did u spent in total?

[bronze bloom]

Yeah ik and even for whales kinda useless, cuz some champs underperform in all modes, u can just replace them with f2p champs, I thought Lucilla would be good but she’s not

[maiden hare]

Also there are like 3-6 heroes that need their si30 (depends on the server), doesn’t matter if you have the other ones tbf

[timber cipher]

for being r1 globally 17 bands

[maiden hare]

You have her at a5 already?

[bronze bloom]

Ok it’s not so bad tbh

[timber cipher]

how much other "krankens" have spent I cannot tell, I'm not sure how much they min-max spending

[bronze bloom]

No, but she’s liverta dependent, she’s support so no much dmg, she’s somewhat like chae I saw gameplay too

And I don’t think liberta would be good neither

[maiden hare]

Ok so you are just speculating she is not good

[bronze bloom]

I had hopes bcs I liked the aesthetics

[bronze bloom]

It might be good in campaign or some PvP comps, in rest not

[maiden hare]

Ok can you show me something that confirms that?

[bronze bloom]

Maybe forked fate, some chae combined with talene revives lol, but less dmg than chae

[civic rampart]

I had Webb test her in my Mez GB stall I think she did well idr it was so late

[bronze bloom]

Read her kit buddy and dmg deal, u can test her out too, it’s logic too she’s not dmg dealer

[maiden hare]

Buddy sometimes it’s better to just wait it out and don’t open your mouth if you don’t know anything

[bronze bloom]

but she got good defense overall, so forked fate will be 100% good, moreover revives itself

[civic rampart]

If you want to test ask Webb

Already 5*

[bronze bloom]

Smartest afk arena player

[bronze bloom]

Its like waiting to test Merlin in bosses, 0 damage per second

[timber cipher]

aged like milk

[maiden hare]

I just can’t deal with main-character people sorry

[maiden hare]

You clearly didn’t read her kit good enough to even put her at the same level as Merlin in boss-fights

[bronze bloom]

Ok pull for her and let us know that I’m right after

[bronze bloom]

u use Merlin on guild bosses? Different kind of breed

[civic rampart]

Webb said she’s good

[bronze bloom]

I’m not saying she’s not, I’m saying she’s basic, at that point I’m getting chae sig 30 and it’s the same thing

[timber cipher]

think she'll be raine like support for bossing

and unsure what her cap on stat stealing is - might be broken - might not be

[maiden hare]

You read that completely wrong, Merlin is like E/F tier in bosses, she will be much higher than that

[bronze bloom]

I thought she will overtake SJW but we can forget, I’d rather sig 30 sjw trishea or tatsu all gaps her

[bronze bloom]

YES BRO, do u read what im saying, im making fun, she will be like C tier in bosses or sum, i said shes not good in bosses not in all modes

[timber cipher]

i think she'll be A-S tier for bossing.

just for the atk increase alone she provides

[maiden hare]

But I identify as “attack-helicopter” don’t BRO me

Ok I’ll stop now

[civic rampart]

The misgendering incident of 2025

[bronze bloom]

atk for liberta another useless hero🤣

[civic rampart]

All over again

[bronze bloom]

Aesthetics slaps though

I wanted to A5 her until I saw she’s support 🤧

[timber cipher]

I mean its time to stop the ragebaiting at some point

[maiden hare]

I can tell you from experience that the Classes: Support/Warror/Ranger/Mage etc. don't mean much in afk arena

[bronze bloom]

ok

[maiden hare]

you have mage's that are supports and supports that are dmg dealers

[bronze bloom]

that’s why tatsumaki gives 5 billion damage and rest not ?

Yeah but supports are just buffers for the main dpses, u need them, but u dont need them at a5 like main dpses

[timber cipher]

welp imma gonna cook up some food - anything is more productive than that discussion in here xD

[bronze bloom]

Imma cook u in this expedition is about to come lil buddy

[past vector]

Should I play on companion or classic?

[ebon sand]

this one had us cook some pretty exciting stuff

like this

and that

1st time using Shall in a non stall team in... ever??

[ebon sand]

https://youtube.com/shorts/t_u7YYjpcBU?si=FPK8hTKa0SzYkNKM if this ever comes to this server you won't see me again

[timber cipher]

not the best solution for sure - but tbf atleast a step towards child protection

idk i saw like 1-2 vids from somebody exposiong a lot of dc problematic stuff like (not text to speech) or smth like that

[ebon sand]

srsly fuck that, I wholeheartedly disagree, "children" being an excuse to invade ppl privacy is getting fucking old by the second

just prevent kids from using any kind of social network before 16 or whatever and there you go, all problems fixed

[timber cipher]

yea but thats the problem no

regulations are being pressed that the companies should take care of that

instead of the states taking care of decend parenting

[ebon sand]

I stopped using FB an eternity ago because I refuse to give any official document to a social network that'll most likely be hacked at some point or used to train AIs, period.

[civic rampart]

5 minutes and I get to play my new tank for OW

[civic rampart]

🔥 ✍️

[timber cipher]

but you cant also blame everything on parents cause when we were little we also did like stuff like sneaking out e.g. - and if we'd be able to shop like alc or anything stupid unchecked wouldnt be nice either

so im tbh not sure what the best way would be but considering how big discord became - im not too surprised.

[civic rampart]

It already got hacked btw I’m pretty sure too

[ebon sand]

well yeah the short says so, 70K Id pics hacked a while ago

[crystal patrol]

That will eventually be every social media site, did you see in march discord will auto reset everyones account to "teen" and youll need to do a face scan or an ID picture to gain full access back

[ebon sand]

no seeing this short was news to me

[timber cipher]

yea dc-support had like access to them and someone "pretended" to be a support employee and funneld them out

[woeful eagle]

discord has sucked since they removed the active dev badge

[timber cipher]

like someone got hired did support stuff but also abused his position to do that hack is what i remember - might be wrong on that

[ebon sand]

might be time to switch to teamspeak then, months ago I read about them going big and close to discord, dunno what it's like now

[timber cipher]

bc if you got reported as under 13 because you did say some stupid message your acc got locked and you had to proove you were over 13

like for example claiming to be underage

o wait that wasnt even like 18 stuff - idk i get things confused - would need to look it up again - there were some vids about all that drama at that time

[vale abyss]

reading through you guys convo.... (i also dont like it....)

[vale abyss]

oh jees

laos morning everyone

tomorrows feedback report for companions gonna be pretty dramatic lol

[vale abyss]

yeah same facebook is so ass for that

to psot on AFK's facebook I am literally logged in with my coworker's personal acc cause I refuse to make one lol

[civic rampart]

I really don’t like how they moved ascension to the heroes tab

[vale abyss]

also from a professional perspective meta has the worst business suite of all platforms buggy af, slo and counter intuitive

[vale abyss]

mm yeah this is what I said I aldo dont like....

why is that?

to me makes it less satisfying I guess

[civic rampart]

They should’ve kept the temple and replaced the ascension materials

[vale abyss]

and less clear

[civic rampart]

It’s just weird

I don’t like it

Plus the temple has been a core part of the game

Why change it

[woeful eagle]

they're gonna change it to give us more stuff to do (i hope)

[civic rampart]

If not that’s the dumbest change

It was easier to track how close you were to ascending a hero in the temple

[tranquil crag]

Agreed

[civic rampart]

Plus now I have to physically count how many Trans heroes I have

These small things all bundled up and thrown away leads to bigger problems

[ebon sand]

I think we're just opposed to changes in our habits as humans but tbh it's objectively better I think, but the transition could've been made clearer, there I wouldn't have minded a quick video tutorial like the super annoying ones in expedition

[civic rampart]

It’s not even that for me

[ebon sand]

You're not human you're a hypo :0

[civic rampart]

It just had way more small nice things that you don’t notice until they disappear

[civic rampart]

The Transcend and Ascend being separate was so much better than how it is now all bunched together

[vale abyss]

I guess I can make that but uhm Ill let them know next time to rpepare a tutorial ahead of release fo such big qol changes

[civic rampart]

Just a lot of little small things

[vale abyss]

thanks for the suggestion

[ebon sand]

You're welcome! I'll take the heat if ppl hate it lol

[civic rampart]

I was excited until I realized they moved everything to heroes 😭

[ebon sand]

Once I had all the changes assimilated, I was able to do all my 500+ pulls without having to fuse fodders to e+ and above then retire them afterwards like I had to do every 40 pulls or something so just for that it's a big qol

[timber cipher]

tbf its just we needed a tutorial that shows us the one time merge click - tho we still have the problem that the "rare/blue" heroes that we get from the gems cannot be retired in rickety card

[civic rampart]

That’s the good change

I enjoy not having to go into my heroes tab every 3 seconds

[timber cipher]

yea it was just weirdly introduced xD

overall its simpler and better

[civic rampart]

As I said

If they kept it the same as the temple but the new materials it would’ve been perfect

[ebon sand]

A lot of us panicked at the idea that we lost our extra heroes copies for transcendencies etc

[civic rampart]

Like literally perfect

[ebon sand]

Yeah unless, as you said, they plan to have something different there, we'll see

[civic rampart]

We’ll see

If it’s just another unused area I’ll be angy

https://tenor.com/view/phobiamp3-kitty-furios-cat-angry-gif-26396978

This will be me

Lilith will feel my fury

My unbridled rage

[ebon sand]

You forgot an R? xD

[civic rampart]

Nah it’s angy

[ebon sand]

No I meant fur(r)y

[civic rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/xd-gif-4343572933060433210

[ebon sand]

(because of the cat, don't hit me)

[timber cipher]

(but please hiss at him)

[copper atlas]

I hate that unequip all is missing

[civic rampart]

😼

[copper atlas]

[vale abyss]

so we do like the new materials

[civic rampart]

I can’t use them

[vale abyss]

tryna make sense of the fury here haha

[civic rampart]

I’m too far in

[timber cipher]

prob pretty good to simplify stuff yea

tho not that it matters for mid- and endgame

[civic rampart]

Materials are nice ascension area change not so much

[ebon sand]

I messed up my sleep schedule, went to sleep early and been awake for half an hour it's 4am for me +_+

[civic rampart]

^ Y0M

[ebon sand]

Yeah

[vale abyss]

mm yeah i think the changes is mostly addressing new players tbf so the ascension experience is a bit more streamlined

[vale abyss]

go to bed!!!!!

[ebon sand]

I shouldn't have drunk those beers

[civic rampart]

Sleep is for the weak

Stay up longer!!!!

[vale abyss]

depends how many ahah the right amount puts you to sleep

[civic rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/conscience-evil-good-angel-devil-gif-2142009395042087672

[vale abyss]

what time is it for you goober

[civic rampart]

2200

So 10

This song name is peak

[ebon sand]

Not that much but I guess I hadn't recovered from my last shift yet, this one was really hard on me

[vale abyss]

sorry to hear that, please take care!

I am also looking forward to the CNY break...

(will be off for a week or so starting from Friday, will elt you guys know!)

[ebon sand]

Thanks, I'll be fine, 3 more days to recover

[vale abyss]

(but will still check here and there so ping me)

[ebon sand]

Oh nice, vacation is always welcome 🤗

[timber cipher]

lucilla is able to 1v5 on same lvl diff btw

rare w

[copper atlas]

i like it, but pls bring back the unequip all

[timber cipher]

sounds great take care

[ebon sand]

Yooooo, what

Ah it's the trial

[vale abyss]

ahah yeah its the first break since I started back in September! so quite busy this week with all the prep T_T

[timber cipher]

yea I haven't maxed her yet no worries

[vale abyss]

already shooting next patch video today

the devs are also dying tbf lol

[ebon sand]

My stupid ass thought you did for a sec

[vale abyss]

same ahahahahah

[timber cipher]

i got her mythic to test her +20 for support stuff for now

[ebon sand]

Damn

Nice

[timber cipher]

had a lucky double pull and all other were from the bundle

[ebon sand]

I haven't logged in yet, gonna check that

[timber cipher]

tbf my sleep schedule is also kinda cooked xD

[ebon sand]

Eh, another char we don't have yet straight up mentioned in her kit

[civic rampart]

I just realized I’m fucked on my alt now

My alt is bricked

[timber cipher]

yea liberta is a broken celestial from classic

tho maybe end up being not as crazy here

so we thats why im not digging deep with pulls yet

[ebon sand]

I was about to ask liberta's faction, thx

[ebon sand]

How so?

[civic rampart]

With Liberta Lucilla also gets a 3rd cheat death

On top of her 2

[civic rampart]

I have no option to retire my heroes

So I’m stuck with all e+

[timber cipher]

not even the button press on the left?

[civic rampart]

Nope

[ebon sand]

How come

[timber cipher]

[civic rampart]

No clue

I even restarted and relogged

Nothing helped

[silent ravine]

If he’s missing e60 or 3f it’s lowkey over

Not even lowkey he’s just ass especially if they nerf his base kit

[ebon sand]

Please remember to be careful when comparing chars from classic

We can never be sure if a bad one there will be bad here

And vice versa

[timber cipher]

well we'll see - he has it already hard with enery regen - but since we dont even know the damage formula from companions compared to classic and we just know they're different thanks to bob - its crazy xD

[silent ravine]

His energy regen is fine as long as they don’t gut their orbs

Like from 50 to 40 is fine

[timber cipher]

maybe they make a op hero to sell that a lot of people want

or maybe they'll just do the cappening

[silent ravine]

From 50 to 25 and no e60 is actually over

[silent ravine]

I mean there’s like 6 more cele hypos they can sell

And wokes #2

Is 100% getting milked

[ebon sand]

Wow that sounds insane

[silent ravine]

Unless

They release rgms

Then ig they really can’t nerf heroes too much longer

[ebon sand]

And she's got a 2nd cheat death at a5, even 3 with liberta, I know reading kits doesn't necessarily reflect how good a hero is but is she somewhat like a shalltear on steroids or something?

[timber cipher]

something like that - the 2 cheat deaths and "stat increasing/leeching" is overall nice - but idk at worst it still could be a laios case

[silent ravine]

Wait shalltear doesn’t have 4 here I forgot

I wouldn’t call her a shalltear on steroids, shalltear still has raw dps over her

[timber cipher]

laios hard cc is also giga broken - but if he runs in and just flops over - rough

sure helps that she self sustains with her cheat deaths

[agile steeple]

Is Lucilla good in comp

[ebon sand]

Where is SirJazz when you need him

🐬

Gotta love that trials for celehypos still give scrolls as final reward

And that they're ass at letting you know if a char is actually good

Fucking Numisu, man it's ridiculous

6B heals what

[timber cipher]

a small amount of healing

[ebon sand]

I was just testing the bunny upgrade

It seems dead ass stupid too

But in a good way lol

[timber cipher]

number looks sick now it duplicates the carrot summons

or well rng

maybe even more than duplicates

[ebon sand]

Yeah the enemy team looked frozen on its side with Mira full life full NRG blasting non stop for 20+s

[timber cipher]

Yea if they get stuck on cc + summoned units that is good

[ebon sand]

It actually worked like that, can you try it to see if it's doable with yours?

It's 2

[timber cipher]

seems pretty solid and working yea

they're in a cc chain of hell

[ebon sand]

Nice, very nice

[timber cipher]

considering my numisu got less uptime with 1/4th of healing i think i have gotten lucky with cc-rng from bunny tho

[ebon sand]

Yeah maybe

Now just imagine

We can't use stall anymore because Mira is used there

But what would Lucille+Shall+ATalene+Flora+Thoran look like?

Could be funny

[timber cipher]

the initial fear from mira enabled a lot tbf

so hard to say

[ebon sand]

Yeah I know but I still wonder

If Lucille's DPS is decent it could be something

[timber cipher]

we're getting more into the nieches with that and are "overloading" difficult enemies and then trying to snip things together - which is imo the right mindset

will take a nap and sleep for now - unfortunately in dream +21 mythic Lucilla wasnt different from Estrilda in terms of support in the comps I tried

+- estrilda/albedo value

will prob test her in campaign but not use her to clear

[ebon sand]

Good to know, I don't value bossing very much personally but good to know

Have a good nap

[dense verge]

do i take lyca or tasi to mythic? thed be replacing numisu to have a line up of 3 lightbearer and 2 wilder

[ebon sand]

Lyca definitely a better investment

A good Lyca is irreplaceable because of her haste boost

[dense verge]

ok yea i wasnt sure i main graveborn

[weak blaze]

Yo you awake

[abstract summit]

Should I look to upgrade Diamon or Hodgkin to Mythical?

[ebon sand]

What's up?

[ebon sand]

Daimon is a very good carry early on

[subtle abyss]

sorry for dumb question but do i just retire the 2 other brutus here? is that how im supposed to do it?

[copper atlas]

No!

You go to your heroes and click on the hero. The ascension is now on their own character page.

Basically:
fodder = turned into faction souls
dupes = same thing as before but we don't need to fuse them to E+ anymore, you just keep collecting copies. The amount needed remains the same as before (8 copies to A)

If you're looking where to retire your fodders and turn them into faction souls, look at the drop-down bar at the left side where the events are located and scroll down to find the "Retire Heroes" to convert them all at once.

[subtle abyss]

AHHHH SO THATS WHERE IT WENT!

i found it now

[copper atlas]

That's just a one-time thing. After that, all extra copies you get of the fodders are now automatically turned into souls when you pull them!

The game saves at least one copy of them though so don't be confused

[subtle abyss]

its really confusing cuz i started the game for 1 day, then new system drops. and the rickety cart and temple of acsension is changed.

[subtle abyss]

ohhh I SEE

[copper atlas]

Yeah it's really confusing at first especially for us newbies lmao

My server's chat be like

As for the rickety cart retire, you can just ignore that cause we don't really want to use these Ascended tier heroes as food as we wanna raise these units in the long-term

[subtle abyss]

sorry but where can i read about the new ascension system? it showed up for once and i read it but now forgot about it.

[lunar temple]

=code

[cold current]

Bro, you almost did the same mistake I did

I lost all my hero copies

[misty iron]

is it just for me that expedition section bugs for every icon i tap?

[glossy fiber]

Is lucilla worth getting as my first stargaze?

[misty iron]

mostly when i’m setting teams for expdition. i can’t and everything crushes

[orchid urchin]

=code

=codes

[sinful violet]

As a f2p, can you potencially get all the dims to an ascended point, where they are playable or is that just not possible to save up so many diamonds in between collabs?

[stray thunder]

it is entirely possible.

the event last around 1 month and you can earn more diamonds within that time and get it a5.

[sinful violet]

That would be insane. Well then I finish my pulls for Trish in this banner and then save for the next Dim, thank you!

[stray thunder]

yep. i m an f2p as well and had tatsu at mythic after burning all my resources. but i could get her to a5 within a week and half

[sinful violet]

nice! Thank you for letting me know.

[stray thunder]

👍

[misty iron]

next dim event is like out in june/july?

[silent ravine]

You can get 1 to ascended 5 but not both iirc

[maiden hare]

april/may

M si20 lucilla seems to be reducing SJW rng in pvp by a lot

like SJW vs SJW situations I mean

[misty iron]

and there will be only new dim crossover collab or also in the interlude dimensionals no crossover like merlin and arthur out ?

like joan and mulan

[maiden hare]

50/50

but I guess that one will be in july/june

[misty iron]

so first april new collab and then new dim no crossover

[maiden hare]

that's my guess but my balls don't give me a feeling to be 100% sure about this, so take this with a grain of salt

but end april/ start may should be new collab

[misty iron]

okay thanksss

[timid briar]

little bug with expedition the auto team make the game lag to avoid this click on rally to manage you team there

[maiden hare]

@pine sable something for you

also sneaky Lucilla deals in Expedition tab

[sleek field]

bruhh thats sneaky indeed

so many bundles for her lol

[maiden hare]

yeah you can almost buy her to A0

[sleek field]

though she kinda dies pretty quickly

havent found the right comp for her yet

[maiden hare]

just if you wonder where you can find this

only 3 clicks

[glossy fiber]

You got her ascended?

[sleek field]

yes A5

[glossy fiber]

Is she worth building?

[sleek field]

could be the high deficit as well though, that 204 now for me

[sleek field]

too early to tell

[glossy fiber]

I have a feeling her and framton would fry campaign stages

[sleek field]

early game definitely

[pine sable]

lol wtf

[sleek field]

man what a hell of a stage was 48-56 💀

Web taking Lucilla straight to T1

[wicked raft]

She needs Liberta to keep her alive haha

[silent ravine]

no she keeps Liberta alive

Liberta squishy

[neat python]

im looking for wishlist, do you have any good ideas? im new, playing 2 days

[pulsar bear]

hmm

[dusky forge]

it's at the top left

[neat python]

thanks ❤️

[dusky forge]

but tasi can technicalyl be replaced to lorsan he seems to be good

[woeful eagle]

idk about replacing tasi but lorsan would prob be my 6th i went for

[dusky forge]

yeah that is why i said technically but i think tasi better for campaign meanwhile lorsan for bosses

[timber cipher]

me saying "im not going deep" also me - well her a1 sounds cool for bossing and if im at mythic why not go for a1 xD

but damn her a1 is a good dmg increase

[dusky forge]

now a5 her

it's the next logical step

well technically a3 is but..

[timber cipher]

he has a point

[dusky forge]

and then give me your account after because obviously that is the next logical step

[timber cipher]

sounds about right - true afk completion

40 avg for gazing is lucky tho ngl

imma take that

[dusky forge]

40 is lucky?

[timber cipher]

pity is 66

[dusky forge]

oh

[timber cipher]

so could be much worse

tho gazing doesnt feel as bad as destiny summons and destiny pity is 60

intrestingly prob different hidden high cap

[dusky forge]

idk for me stargazing seems to be more unlucky than destiny

[timber cipher]

i mean do you count the banner rewards from destiny?

if so destiny is more lucky

but they're guaranteed

if you only count pure summons - my avg seems to be a lot better for stargazing

[dusky forge]

i am just saying that because destiny is easier to get than star gazing so that might be the reason it feels that way

[timber cipher]

is fair ++ also if you consider the banner it feels always nice

if you dont have like hundreds of gazers just hanging around its a bit frustrating to gaze anyways cause if you once hit the 66 pity - its rough

but afterwards like there is so much more back to back shenanigans or doubles

[sleek field]

gg, i had 48 average

[dusky forge]

that is true although getting the 30k gems would be nice but hasn't happened yet

[hollow river]

We have our first T5 gamer

[dusky forge]

shalltear!

[timber cipher]

have to got lucky once in a while - 48 is around the usual

[sleek field]

crazy

[timber cipher]

dayum fantasy

[timid briar]

yeah

i was about to show it

[timber cipher]

first and second

[timid briar]

us in 5 year

[sleek field]

40mil hp SJW

[hollow river]

Me never cause I’ll quit before then

[timid briar]

ahah

give account befor leaving

[hollow river]

Obviously

[timber cipher]

yea is crazy only my T3, +40 comes close

[sleek field]

My Mezoth has 31m hp xD

[timber cipher]

not sure how much combat stats he has in arena lmao

[timber cipher]

thats crazy xD

[sleek field]

I think Webb showed a screenshot of T5 SJW

Such an evil combination flora + wukong

[timber cipher]

and salaki

[sleek field]

Yea lol

[timber cipher]

cursed

[sleek field]

you used selene, leo merlin, healus and abrutus

but were 425 rc

[timber cipher]

yea believe you can selene stall enemies

and keep them from attacking

i was already complaining about 48-60 and it was a rough one even for us xD

[sleek field]

[timber cipher]

noteable gate-keeper stage xD

[sleek field]

48-56 was rough too

[timber cipher]

yep but afterwards i think beginning of 49 is a walk in the park

[sleek field]

Whats Tatsu's rock storm hit box?

whole field or a specific area

[timber cipher]

whole field - and targeting seems a bit random imo

[sleek field]

mhm

[timber cipher]

you can work with lorsan

to link enemies together and make it maybe a bit more managable

but most of the tough stages is get the 2nd or 3rd cast of to clear

[sleek field]

Yea exactly, need cast to clear the board and bring flora down

[timber cipher]

for us it was recently along these lines

a lot of merlin/selene tatsu ngl

in worst case scneario even that overloading

[sleek field]

I feel like Tatsu and maybe SJW is the only one that can clear this team

[timber cipher]

i feel overloading on a flora/salaki is something that is fine so no worries

y0m is recently playing a lot around with frampton

i had the bunny bug where bunny solo fought again lmao

maybe those can give you some inspiration but sooner or later you and s2 will find a solution - im sure of it ^^

[sleek field]

💪

[woeful eagle]

seems to happen with talene quite a bit where it lets her revive one last time when everyone else is already dead

[timid briar]

yeah and call it end at the moment she get back

[maiden hare]

that's probably not a bug, Talene in her egg state isn't dead, so she needs to die again for the round to end

[timid briar]

She doesn't die she get the check "do I get back" and end of fight

[maiden hare]

no, the death animations is "death" but what follows after that is her egg-state, in which she isn't dead, so the Bunny pet can deal damage, if she would stand up and die again the round would end

[timid briar]

Did we look the same video?

[maiden hare]

the battle ended because of time

[maiden hare]

. I mean this

[timid briar]

Yeah didn't look at times

[maiden hare]

nub

[timid briar]

• isn't she supposed to come back to life before fight end

Die at 43 sec

[maiden hare]

nah, she died like 3-4 times already that fight so her regeneration is slower and slower

[timid briar]

43 sec not going back

That crazy

[maiden hare]

I don't know about the uptime cd's on that but 43sec is indeed crazy

[maiden hare]

well that could be something bugged with that pet, that pet is a walking bug tbh

[timid briar]

Yeah

43sec that looks impossible for me

[timber cipher]

but Talene egg state did gain 0% health at that point it does seem like the fight is over - because at all other times talene was atleast regenerating

[ebon sand]

Lorsan did wonders at 1

Stall didn't look like it'd work at all even with the bunny

I swapped Thoran for Lorsan, 1st try=win

[timber cipher]

hmm the enemies do get quite tanky xD

will be intresting whether its a5 pega or a2 bunny for me

[ebon sand]

Maybe it's just bad RNG, just do manual attempts on the other fights before going back to it, it might help please rngesus

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pray-rngesus-beg-gif-14727259

That or the difference between your bunny and mine starts to show, that'd be pretty annoying :/

[sleek field]

@timber cipher almost cracked it

[warm lagoon]

Any thoughts on the new hero that is coming

I think it's him I could be wrong

[timber cipher]

damn very nice also big numbers on the lucilla 👀

if pega only dealt 170m must've been a short fight

[sleek field]

Yea its short lol

[lusty plank]

ts is crazy

[woeful eagle]

no why does she do damage

[brave plaza]

Try her with regular Taelene

[sleek field]

already beat the team

[brave plaza]

Revives and healing is crazy

[maiden hare]

It’s probably drez

[maiden hare]

Positioning with lucilla is pretty important

[sleek field]

I put her next to Saitama

[warm lagoon]

Oh okay well I did say I could be wrong but I just found out this dude is coming pretty soon

Well I shouldn't say fairly soon I know telling how long it's going to be before they make him where he's a collectible hero but he's already on the game you just can't collect him yet

[woeful eagle]

so is saurus right there

or whatever his name is

and leofric is in a hero trial

[glossy fiber]

35k gems and 20 scrolls do i go for trish?

[warm lagoon]

I wouldn't I would save them for dimensions but that's just me you can get her in regular summons

[tranquil jackal]

yeah after her 5th death her regen is cut to 0. this pet is bullshit

how do i remove hero gear? has to be one gear at a time?

who even asked for this change w the ascensions. just a waste of dev time

[warm lagoon]

You have to go to each piece of gear to remove it

[silent ravine]

People say it’s Drez

Cuz gorren dialogue says food

[cinder sun]

Hello guys , With the update, how do I retrieve these resources?

I was saving up in my bag to upgrade it to legendary food +

[supple flint]

Check #companions-questions

Is Lucilla worth getting a single copy of? Or building instead of Talene?

[timber cipher]

hmm i think a lot of team buffing is in her a1 +20 ngl

[supple flint]

So full send or not at all?

[timber cipher]

@maiden hare

so we have kinda mythic +20
a1 +20
and a5 +30 stepstones rn

[timber cipher]

i mean all cele/hypos kinda feel that way cause of divinity

like there are some ones that you can use below that and do well like frampton - but she doesnt feel like a 1 copy wonder.

[supple flint]

Right, okay.

I’m borrowing e+ of her in campaign, and she carries my 3rd team.

[timber cipher]

not enough testing to say much her +20 feels like a estrilda in the team

her +20/a1 feels like a bit more - maybe like silas-ish (+30)

[supple flint]

Right

[timber cipher]

her cheat death is def kinda nice

[supple flint]

Sounds like you’re saying she’s good, but replacable?

[oak temple]

im backkkkkkkkkkkk

[tranquil jackal]

Do we think this update is gonna affect initial WL? bc if a unit is good at M or A0 and that's fine, then 2 copies is enough, right?

[oak temple]

hi iperx!

[timber cipher]

her kit has abilities based on a hero that isnt released yet

she may be better than Talene for pvp/campaign - but not sure how its for bossing

hi

[timber cipher]

ngl i think frampton is atm the king of cele/hypos for pvp/campaign/tower/ff related stuff

[tranquil jackal]

wait I dumb. this only converts fodder into universal fodder

[timber cipher]

yea we still need 4 copies for m+

[oak temple]

can someone pls explain the new ascension gem thing to me like im 5

well not 5 but you get me

[tranquil jackal]

vedan, silvina, and niru dont exist. they just became "gb fodder stone"

[oak temple]

i see

[tranquil jackal]

thats about it. spare copies of A-tier heroes, for stars and transcending, now use E instead of E+ spares

[timber cipher]

basically you ascend in your hero inbox instead of in the temple

and yea fodder == universal fodder

and some things like rare hero stones and rare hero cards atm are buggy

[oak temple]

hmm

i see now

overall good update? according to yall

[timber cipher]

no they should've first gametested it - fixed it and introduced it with a tutorial xD

its not bad and simplifies stuff

but it was unasked for

[tranquil jackal]

it's supposed to simplify but was implemented poorly
also the gear issues is just giga dumb

[supple flint]

Ah I see. Okay

[timber cipher]

yep can only agree to bob

[tranquil jackal]

why dafuq would you ever take out "remove gear" button

[supple flint]

Framton is so good for campaign.

[oak temple]

can i retire my existing ones i ascended just to make space?

[timber cipher]

they've been smoking good stuff

[timber cipher]

yea on the left there is a button - you can check pins in #companions-questions

homescreen - where the events and special offers are

[tranquil jackal]

i believe it. too bad I wont see him for 2y at which point he may be pcrept

[timber cipher]

[timber cipher]

i think on a f2p you can buildup in like 6 months ish through ff / kt / events

atleast one a1-a2 cele/hypo

without considering arena coins stargazer cards

but after that you're drained out and have almost 0 gain

[oak temple]

Thank you!

[tranquil jackal]

im 40d in and have 180 scamgazers
i used 10 for twins so thats 190/40 = 4.75/d?

[supple flint]

Is Talene still the best celehypo to build first?

[timber cipher]

i think you can't put the milestone rewards based on days - because you'll stall out on them completly at some point

[timber cipher]

probably not

[tranquil jackal]

that is true. bc early game kinda throws rewards at you but progression slows

[timber cipher]

personally i can only say wait for liberta release and look if liberta is broken

otherwise go for frampton

[tranquil jackal]

it would take serious effort to make liberta balanced. dude is so not ok

[timber cipher]

tbf we already have energy gain problems but idk his 8 pages long kit with 20 different abilities

so maybe thats enough with a slap on the wrist were lilith dont completly guts out multis

would be fun to see something utterly broken maybe - will see

[slow umbra]

@vale abyss !!

[supple flint]

Oh? When does he come out, do we know?
I have e+ Framton atm

[slow umbra]

This is Grace, can we chat a bit in DMs?

[timber cipher]

we dont know - but prob right after lucilla - would be weird otherwise

[slow umbra]

Sup Ip man

[timber cipher]

sup sup grace

[slow umbra]

Sorry the rat thing with the daggers

Not skreg

One sec

[timber cipher]

yea we might have 4f's inbetween but next cele/hypo should be liberta

[supple flint]

Oh I see. 🤔

[timber cipher]

not sure if we get a full 4f circle - since it was kinda weird with frampton aswell ngl

[supple flint]

I should save stargaze cards then

[timber cipher]

usally circle was 4f -> cele -> 4f -> hypo e.g.

[tranquil jackal]

massive healing, dps, and health loss, plus high personal energy gain, grants nrg to allies, deducts nrg from enemies. only thing his kit doesnt have is cc
by observation back when i played classic, he would out-support your supports AND out-dps most of your dps, all in one hero

[timber cipher]

[supple flint]

😂

[timber cipher]

a sucess story in a kit

[supple flint]

Sounds balanced

[timber cipher]

makes sense why they pair him with mehira charme then - cause energy spam = perma charme

and from then on he can just out-dps things for free prob

[tranquil jackal]

im tempted to say he out-dps'd even raku in those stages

and that's with raku's +50% atk buff AND his 650% auto multiplier for a total of 1125%, x5 heroes

[timber cipher]

btw mehira + selene is also a fun interaction

if charmed and in selene "disarm" - they just stand around and do nothing

[tranquil jackal]

oh I did have a question ab that. can selene just hardstop trish?

cuz trish is just autos and ult

not forever bc i dont think selene can maintain consistent uptime

[timber cipher]

didnt test that tbf

[tranquil jackal]

but that would be funny

[timber cipher]

but isnt trishea* ability like cc imune aslong as she has feathers?

not really sure when it was - but we had trish cc'd in some rare vids and it was like some pixel stuff where i was asked about why trish got cc'd

and i almost never see that happen - but we could figure that out

[tranquil jackal]

im tempted to say that selene skill doesnt actually count as cc but it's v difficult to test

trish can be cc'd while ulting, im p sure

"while observing the universe" is her auto attacks

[timber cipher]

would be easiest with a a2 trish +10 or less + high merlin

vs a selene with im not sure which ascensions halfs the amount of ults she needs to get more moon phases

[tranquil jackal]

so even while she has no feathers at battle start, she cant be cc'd, bc her first action is to start charging auto

[timber cipher]

yea that is kinda the timing then

[tranquil jackal]

yeah i just tried it. estrilda cant stun trish on opener

[slow umbra]

Ip I have a question about joining a guild but wanting to do it incognito

If I block the people will they not see past DMs

[tranquil jackal]

u could also try it on a wukong who dodges CC and clones himself
but selene ability may be considered 'just' a debuff, not cc

[timber cipher]

hm i mean aslong as you dont do guild bosses you don't need to "settle" but - it will be always shown on the profile

[slow umbra]

Ah I was gonna join dragon hunters

[timber cipher]

didnt block people at all yet - prob best to test with someone quick

[slow umbra]

Retire my Grace act there

Maybe I’ll just go to superhero 😭

[timber cipher]

ah wait that wasnt the one

that orthros

[slow umbra]

Also ip whatchu doing with a t3 haelus 😭😭😭

[timber cipher]

@ebon sand might still have the recording of 48-60-1 with the wukong/selene interaction

[timber cipher]

got myself a signature hero

[slow umbra]

I thought mehira would be the one for u 😭

[timber cipher]

I like haelus - am a firm believer

[ebon sand]

lemme check

[tranquil jackal]

haelus was always weird. i felt i understood him but he'd still outperform my expectation

[timber cipher]

am not that much into succubi

[slow umbra]

Hmmm sure

Lucilla is so cute

[timber cipher]

these allegations

but yea i a5'd her for the vibes too - so understandable that you think that

[timber cipher]

if Kasu would be still there - Kasu said Lucilla was everything

[slow umbra]

we been doing some silly dmg in dream realms with her

8b team with res 230

[timber cipher]

yea I think +20 a1 lucilla - can be pretty dang good for bossing

[slow umbra]

Think I’m gonna park her at m+20

[silent ravine]

Remove his e60

That’s it

[timber cipher]

will have to keep it short for tonight tho - since I have a appointment in a couple of hours - so gn gn enjoy yaselfs

[slow umbra]

Bye ✌️

[tranquil jackal]

l8rs

[oak temple]

Guys I have another question

How does one transcend a hero in the now system

Cuz it says max level but if I wanna transcend then?

Or does it unlock only once I get 25 A5

[ebon sand]

yeah you need to meet the requirements

[tranquil jackal]

temple of ascension is so useless now 😭

For my own ease:

E: first copy, usable except abex/trift
E+: 2 copies, usable everywhere
M: 4 copies, plus 108 faction stones/cores
A0: 8 copies, plus 72 faction stones/cores (cumulative sum 180)

[brazen bobcat]

2b9tnrbwcz

New code

[stray thunder]

thank you

[stray thunder]

yes sir

[maiden hare]

Mythic si20 -> A1 si 20 -> A3 si 20 -> A5 si20, si30 is totally optional

Mythic enables better DR usage and some PvP

A1 is even better in DR

A3 she starts to be reliable in PvP

Didn’t tested a5 yet but well that will boost everything

[sleek field]

She works great as frontline with Saitama

[maiden hare]

The thing is that the next celestial could be Liberta so idk about pulling for lucilla if you don’t have enough for the next one

[maiden hare]

Yeah Merlin too

Putting her on position 1 with SJW/Cha is also good

Because they will get her buffs

As they both jump to pos1

[sleek field]

Overall she is a really cool hero

[maiden hare]

100% but just gonna ping this again, not that everyone goes for lucilla and the next one will be even better

[sleek field]

yea true lol

[maiden hare]

No one copy doesn’t do much because the buffs don’t give anything, like still usable but better alternatives at that point

I guess she could be one copy wonder for early campaign

But idk, framton is probably better in that aspect

[sleek field]

[dusky forge]

Nice!

[maiden hare]

[sleek field]

that 48-60 was a tough cookie to crack

Thanks to Lucilla S2 and I got through it

[brave plaza]

I still can't decide who to SI30 next? I am thinink between Arthur, Chicken or maybe Lucilia but she is M for now...

or maybe Scarlet

[sleek field]

Scarlet is only DR relevant, and maybe LB tower

DR/guild boss

Skriath has more use. You building out Lucilla to A5?

[brave plaza]

A1

[maiden hare]

nothing needs si30 from that list, you can just stack chests and decide when you get to 600+

[sleek field]

That'd be the best/most efficient course of action yes

[maiden hare]

I would do lucilla si30 only after a3 or rather if you plan to go for a5

a1 lucilla is more DR usage

and she doesn't need si30 there

[brave plaza]

thanks

[timber cipher]

yea si 30 is more for self damage - and tbf not sure how much difference that is - tho in my honest opinion

just because celestia/hypogeans have the higher base stat spread

they kinda already deserve SI for the better SI value gain by that

not implying abilities or anything just on a base rock-paper-scissor level

for sure there can be great heroes that benefit most f2ps more

but if you're already pulling for tons of gazers it is likely that you have the option to build the SI up and if you have that option viable - you should do that for that reason

because otherwise why would you've even pulled deep in the first place for a3 / a5 and not just kept her on mythic/a0

[maiden hare]

yeah like I said, after A3 I would si30 her but on A1 I wouldn't

[timber cipher]

totally agree a1 / +20 - bossing

[maiden hare]

and a lot of people doing useless si30 so they don't have chests

well useless on the "overall" usability, I know some need them

si30 crassio for e.g

or arthur

if you don't buy red chests on every pop-up + weekly deals it's not worth it

we don't have that high of an red-chests income tbh and we are on the verge of getting better heroes much often

so nothing wrong with even 900+ chests in eq

[timber cipher]

fair fair - i just think at some point you have many options and get impatient

its even a shame for whales that we're at some point out of 285 red emblem deals

[maiden hare]

yeah after chapter ~30? or something like that you don't see that deal for months

[timber cipher]

yea recently y0m and me got one

for like 50-32

[maiden hare]

that's like "years" away

[timber cipher]

but you get them like every 5-6 chapters at some point

and before you had them for kt / ff and campaign stages

[maiden hare]

on new player perspective

[timber cipher]

like that was the thing i swiped t he most for in the early "dolphin" phase

0 regrets

[maiden hare]

yup if you bought them you could come to the conclusion that they come pretty often, well that's not the case later on

[timber cipher]

yea because at some point you dont get rewards for ff and kt anymore xD

cause prob lazy dev and if we ping them at bug reports they'll implement them because they make money on it and just forgor

same was for max stargazer pulls

[maiden hare]

probably

[timber cipher]

tank capped out

he complained one time to support - never before I believe and only once after with montes

[maiden hare]

he was buying the 25 SG for $100 right?

[timber cipher]

yes

[maiden hare]

that's wild

[timber cipher]

and they added a higher pull cap

from 8k -> 10k

can say that cause i capped out my gazer rewards and didnt get any lately

and before tank complained it being 8k

[maiden hare]

ah you mean the pop-up for X-amount of SG pulls?

[timber cipher]

welp will take a nice bath since i took 2 days off for some appointments - and prob write later

[timber cipher]

yep

[timber cipher]

it triggers every 200 pulls

and you have like 2-3 different versions that are a bit different but similar

one has less gazers and some reds (and dust if you want to count that)
one has 70 gazers and gold
and another one had more gazers but was more expensive