#companions-chat

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silent ravine
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With lucilla

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No

muted glen
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Once I got a hero to mythic can I use more copies of the hero as food?

silent ravine
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My pet does more damage

silent ravine
timber cipher
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zikicorn crazy creep in classic

silent ravine
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Liberta doesn’t do damage

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Believe it or not

timber cipher
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last time i looked into classic liberta link was like highest dps

brave plaza
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@timber cipher that question is for you 🤣🙏

silent ravine
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His highlight is giving mehira infinite energy

muted glen
woeful eagle
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was kelthur or whoever not in between those

silent ravine
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=compguide

timber cipher
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depends on how for your athalia is

but we're kinda using Arthur everywhere ond athalia mostly on counter occasions

Chicken is prob best for dream realm

brave plaza
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Thanks

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She is Ascended

timber cipher
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so my guess is overall arthur >

Dream realm chiken
pvp athalia

brave plaza
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Wont go for 5*

timber cipher
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o without 5* i wouldnt bother +30ing her

brave plaza
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I chose her for awakened Taelene

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Instead of Haelus

timber cipher
woeful eagle
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ahh yeah i get what you're saying now

brave plaza
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I am dolphin can't get her to 5* 🙂

timber cipher
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so considering that its kinda weird that we got hypo -> graveborn -> hypo

timber cipher
woeful eagle
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we had haelus into selene i believe but that was prob bc it was a mirror drop

brave plaza
timber cipher
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believe we had ferael - dims and at the end of dims and like 3-4 days after ferael ended we got the mira dual release

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so dual releases with classic also are kinda weird for us

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but frampton / lucilla arent new and arent dual with classic which is areyouseirus

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a lot of stuff that is milking us lately related to cele/hypos and fabled pets

silent ravine
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I mean at least it wasn’t dragonlite>higborn>hypo>dragonlite homegalul

timber cipher
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also cele hypos have +20% avg over normal heroes

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so for companions cele/hypos are kinda highborn

timber cipher
silent ravine
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Never

timber cipher
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i mean they gave you guys fabled pets

silent ravine
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Unless they refuse to rework

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Aurelia

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Alucius

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Misha

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Those heroes specifically need gg stats

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Otherwise they are literally worthless

timber cipher
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i mean for you guys they could have still gg running and add features ontop

not like you guys had seal

from what I heard early everyone said pega is just seal v2

silent ravine
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Yes pepega was seal 2

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Pepega went into alvida comp as a solid plan b

timber cipher
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but like we kinda really need something to make energy hungry heroes viable they suffer the most in comp lmao

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and like all energy generating abilities in companions are quite nerfed

silent ravine
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💀

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Rip Liberta

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F tier hero

timber cipher
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thats what im kinda thinking that unless we get some way of turning the mehira or twins engine on that there is no way

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because we have now tons of classic players

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but we havent seen one old god comp with twins

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and damn I tried hard to make one but energy related stuff is being blasted by base stats

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only consistend hero that we're able to cycle with cheese heroes like arthur/merlin e.g.

is selene

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cause we can advance selene moonphases and kinda cycle her with other heroes early ult

maiden hare
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Maulers have 1 hero more than every other faction and they get another one next patch

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Drez

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nvm I confused them with LB homegalul

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on the other hand Wilders are missing 1 hero from last rotation, they are 1/2 less than every other faction (not counting Asolise)

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so we could expect some double wilders release before and after dims or something like that

woeful eagle
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i think wilders are lacking in classic too

silent ravine
wicked raft
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Wilders are solid in classic

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Misha and Gorok are top meta

silent ravine
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We got wilder gb wilder for 4f releases

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The last lb was alvida in June homegalul

woeful eagle
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oh i thought there were less wilders than other 4f

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i stand corrected

woeful eagle
wicked raft
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Yeah, his design is great

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one of my personal favs

silent ravine
tulip spruce
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is it worth rebirthin

woeful eagle
timber cipher
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these stages are getting ridiculous lmao

tulip spruce
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does rebirthing have any downsides at all?

timber cipher
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enemy teams tank that like its nothing damn

tranquil jackal
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this is why raku was so strong in classic
also was good in DR (CR in classic) but the 2nd ult skill tanked your dps hard

timber cipher
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he is too slow to work in almost every comp

tranquil jackal
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I still swear raine is giga underrated

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also raku explicitly doesnt want nrg

timber cipher
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no not raku

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but the heroes that go with him

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like mehira

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like leonardo

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if i have raku + leonardo i have 0 dps for the first 10-15s

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and i wipe

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if i have leonardo khazard that is already hard enough to setup

tranquil jackal
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interestingly ezizh nrg battery got buffed here
but he was never good in campaign - exploded too fast to run a cycle comp. the passive nrg gain wasnt that bad tho

timber cipher
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but you have tatsu forcefield

aBrutus push + knockup
skreg push
ezizh taunt
and kren stun just to setup energy gain

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and not even on a "clean" level

tranquil jackal
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the lack of dodge/immunities/death cheats hurts more than the nrg loss imo

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if u can stall long enough, then youll get the nrg. u cant stall here tho

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alna 9f my beloved 💔

timber cipher
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i just think that the artifacts aswell as haste in the tree provided in classic kinda outscaled so much pve content

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and without that a lot of people are lost

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cause you had mehira almost insta ult easily with book or duras call

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and not even sure how much more powercreep came from ghoulish gallery stats

tranquil jackal
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idr what that even is lol

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unless u mean unions?

timber cipher
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but like ghoulish, engraving, furni and world tree is like +80% stats on us and way more unique stats like haste

++ our haste stats in SI is lower than in classic

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ghoulish gallery is unique artifacts that gave tons of stats

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like artifact collection

tranquil jackal
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oh collections. i hated those so much they made me quit

timber cipher
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these ones

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yea

tranquil jackal
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ye

timber cipher
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as far as im aware they gave so much stats

like classic was able to do that much because your heroes were pumped

and im not sure but seeing the trillions of dmg - there is also double dipping involved between those multipliers probably

tranquil jackal
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oh, I think I forgot to tell you. I did confirm that companions runs on a different damage formula

timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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I did an old test from classic and the numbers did not come close to matching

silent ravine
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Whel accs was doing almost quintillions on uncapped bosses

timber cipher
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but tbf we didnt do as much in-depth stuff as you and others did for classic all that time

i did pretty in-depth hero lineup testing based on old metas

tranquil jackal
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but actually finding that dmg formula is a pita. the only thing I can confidently say is that the effect of Defense got a serious buff here, meaning "typical" damage is tuned down, making 'health loss' effects stronger by comparison

silent ravine
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Pretty sure defense and attack formula in classic is just linear

tranquil jackal
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not at all

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in classic, it was common knowledge that albedo's +75% def sig resulted in... +1%EHP. actually trash
and that was calc'd at equal deficit, ie pvp
for campaign pushing? it did absolutely nothing

tranquil jackal
silent ravine
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Oh wow that’s why 21% attack matters so much

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It’s squared homegalul

tranquil jackal
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yeah. that's also why atk buffs were better than damage buffs of an equal %

timber cipher
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what I can tell based from companions is that crit resistence shred provided by sjw/lyca/belinda e.g.

dominates the numbers game

tranquil jackal
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are u referring to cbr or cdr

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cuz theyre quite different

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granted, crit got heavily nerfed here too. abel in classic regularly crested 110 crit, and palmer, a broken support unit, gave additional pierce if u crossed 100 crit

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here I havent seen units beyond 60 crit

timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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lyca reduces cbr. belinda reduces cdr. sjw does both

silent ravine
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Cbr reduces chance to crit, cdr reduces crit damage

timber cipher
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all of them are always used in every global boss comp setup

I'm not sure whats the formular either and whether we can go beyond 60 cda

But considering most heroes do not work like gwyneth/walker so they don't really have 60 cda by themself - which lets them hit harder

cause negative cdr counts

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aswell as prob negative cbr

timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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yeah I did confirm that -cdr existed in classic
-cbr was difficult to test but now that i think ab it, I have an idea on how to do it. but it's a classic test, doesnt work here

timber cipher
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pretty sure I can say that negative cdr matters here aswell

tranquil jackal
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yeah also every mage used to have like, 15-20 cda just from legendary furn, not even mythic furn
here it feels like nb has cda unless it's from a skill

silent ravine
timber cipher
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but I don't have numbers to proof that

silent ravine
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Here’s Westies cdr and cbr

tranquil jackal
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like logically, -cbr was always a thing
bc lyca's skill worked even before cbr became an official stat
which means all enemies had 0 cbr and if lyca still worked, negatives must be occurring

tranquil jackal
timber cipher
silent ravine
timber cipher
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because if we can double dip on that then thats huge stat

tranquil jackal
timber cipher
timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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and there's no benefit from cresting 100 crit, except in classic a support called palmer had a skill that did exactly that

timber cipher
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otherwise you could setup walker for instant 60 cda

silent ravine
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Every stat has a cap

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Cda caps at 350 iirc

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It was something high

tranquil jackal
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cda caps at 290

timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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that's a hard cap too. even gwyn skill + 60cda will not cross 290%

timber cipher
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t1 weapon gwyn cr

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without her abilitieies

tranquil jackal
silent ravine
tranquil jackal
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int*, not mages

timber cipher
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yea thats my trish

tranquil jackal
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not that supports really need crit

silent ravine
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T4 gear gives like

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A lot of crit

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A single t4 weapon

timber cipher
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thats like t2 head and weapon from my haelus

tranquil jackal
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the 43.2% comes from the t2 weapon tho. t3/4 didnt give additional crit iirc

timber cipher
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head and weapon give a lot yea

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headgear is like 21%

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weapon is 31.5

tranquil jackal
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in classic, every INT hero had 70-80 just from gear. this was before tree and furn and whatevr

timber cipher
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but like a lot of heroes that would benefit from crit like walker lack crit

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is what i mean

tranquil jackal
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true. crit is tuned down all around

timber cipher
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so multis on like those heroes that double dip could've been nice

tranquil jackal
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which is good imo. classic crit was ridiculous. u shud not be critting every hit w minimal invest

silent ravine
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It’s like a minuscule difference

tranquil jackal
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kren helps a lot too. aoe crit buff

tranquil jackal
silent ravine
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Boosts are from hero

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If anything tree more broken

timber cipher
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tbf i think there should be mechanics like overcrit

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turning each crit over 100% into cda

tranquil jackal
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cda is capped tho

timber cipher
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prob not that balanced for classic but like whatever classic is - isnt balanced in the first place

silent ravine
timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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there were mages that already capped cda so that wouldnt even do anything

silent ravine
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And iirc elthera also has that

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One of the highborns has that

tranquil jackal
silent ravine
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Oh ye it was kaeleon

timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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not relevant here, but there was a dmg quest in classic to hit prince, so they had to dumb it down a bit to aid bad players

timber cipher
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like its an lazy explanation to cap cda to prevent pve from killing you

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because there are prob 1000 ways to balance it otherwise

timber cipher
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but i getcha not that you're at fault for that - intresting to know

silent ravine
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They nerfed it to 100 mil

tranquil jackal
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some units like abel with arthur and palmer and rosa, genuinely could cross 170 crit
and gwyn/ainz could cross 400% cda multiplier

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in classic

silent ravine
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I’m pretty sure my envy crosses cda cap

timber cipher
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yea but like turn on a pve tile check on abex

that just cheks whether the team belongs to a unique player uuid or smth like that

silent ravine
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With help

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But ye panda op for that reason

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Same thing with wippa

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They uncap cda

tranquil jackal
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but really once you're crossing like 400/500% cda multiplier, it's so cooked. normal heroes will never catch up

silent ravine
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It’s also why Randle is so fucking good for bosses

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His snakes doesn’t have stat caps

tranquil jackal
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did anyone actually proe that?

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or is it just commonly accepted?

silent ravine
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It’s just accepted atp

tranquil jackal
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grez was thought to be uncapped. ainz too. i proved both wrong

silent ravine
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Someone could try to test like a 290 cda palmer with highest attack and link it to randle

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The attack is capped at 100%

timber cipher
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is intresting tho - that they're trying to prevent the most broken interactions for companions

so they kinda learned from classic

tho i dont understand why they allow the fabled pet creeping (prob just to have whalebait)

silent ravine
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But pp and mp I’m pretty sure is uncapped

tranquil jackal
timber cipher
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i think they should rework sg cards and implement them in a normal reward circle and allow players to build them

atm there is like no way in hell that f2ps can every build more than one a5 hero if they need to keep up with SI grind

tranquil jackal
silent ravine
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Pp and mp had caps tho

tranquil jackal
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never did when i played

silent ravine
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Randles snakes im pretty sure just ignores those caps

timber cipher
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+40 mezoth with t2 chest and t2 boots has 73.5 PR

tranquil jackal
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Mezoth had >90PR in classic iirc

timber cipher
silent ravine
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They lowkey kinda shoehorned themselves with wokes as well

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What do about 2nd woke from each faction tidussnout

timber cipher
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I don't think a player starting a year later should be like "o damn I wish I had that hero, but I'm never able to get that one" - thats pretty bad.

timber cipher
silent ravine
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It’s not like here where

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It’s like livable

tranquil jackal
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they already nerfed awks quite a bit. 30-40% of their skills literally dont exist here bc they were tied to si/f, and they dont get divines

timber cipher
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pretty sure that it wont say "hero stars" and will just add like some weird currency systems

silent ravine
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If ur missing sjw and shalltear u cant compete in ts

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If ur missing cha and marci ur giga fucked in nc

tranquil jackal
timber cipher
silent ravine
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R54 is currently shitting itself bc there’s people with saitama

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And there’s people without saitama

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The entire woke prio needs to be redone soon because of lack of garrison

timber cipher
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that s130+ had to compete without getting those and on like s160+ was the marci release

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so people from s130+ onmly had marci/laios and had to compete with shalltear quite a long time in pvp events

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tho for classic pvp is much more common and so its worse there

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in companions there is expedition

region arena is kinda kept in "fair" brackets I believe

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alliance is just the unfair think where it goes global pvp

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but tbf we havent seen alliance for quite the while

silent ravine
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NC ur just fucked lmao

tranquil jackal
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abex shouldnt be that hard to port over either. idk why theyve abandoned that

silent ravine
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Like no marci=ggs

silent ravine
timber cipher
silent ravine
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We haven’t had abex in 7 months

timber cipher
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they were able to redo every season and it had the classic heroes in it

tranquil jackal
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GF and abex run simultaneously on new servers

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they just... stop doing abex after #2

timber cipher
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but stopped on S83+

tranquil jackal
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ye

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which makes no sense. u can recycle the map, or port maps from classic

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u have all the assets alrdy. i dont see the issue

silent ravine
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They stopped doing abex like right before they ported gf over

timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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for spire do I choose training or summoning stuff?

timber cipher
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prob cause bigshots want to see expedidtion running cause some dipshit was saying that is what players want that is where resources will go to

silent ravine
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In all technicality gf gives better rewards

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But GF is a piece of dogshit to manage

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Shadow realm still isn’t accessible

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And so many mechanics aren’t clear

timber cipher
tranquil jackal
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i get additional rewards apparently

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i get a choice of training or summon supplies

timber cipher
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oo

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you can preview them

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ones are emblems

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ones are scrolls/stargazers

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training is SI

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and most pick SI

tranquil jackal
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ik. im asking which is better value cuz i dont have a good sense of that here

timber cipher
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cause you dont get much

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rng is shit for it

tranquil jackal
timber cipher
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you get like 2 sg cards

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think we havent crowd sourced it yet I almost always picked SI stuff cause on my f2p i always needed that

eventho dust is negative value

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blue like bluestones are also zero value so

tranquil jackal
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yeah. sg is supposed to be high value bc scarcity but i wont see the benefit of that until >1 yr out

timber cipher
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yep

tranquil jackal
silent ravine
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Like Qol

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And u lowkey get timegated if ur league doesn’t capture early

vale abyss
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so uhm y'all want abex back is what I am gathering?

silent ravine
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Yes

woeful eagle
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and temporal rift s2 would be cool

cloud wing
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@timber cipher

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I lost my data

timber cipher
timber cipher
vale abyss
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cause

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I am still so sleepy T_T

timber cipher
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Expedition requires atm soo much planing and is still stressful for many regions ;w; - rough rough.

timber cipher
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1 and 2 are done

5 will probably win and work

but 3 isnt working

and 4 im pretty uncertain aswell

vale abyss
timber cipher
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prob best to do that - quick shower and bed time gn gn

idle elbow
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Training or Summon Resources?

glossy fiber
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When upd

gentle forge
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Any working codes?

cold current
glossy fiber
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Upd soon 😁😁😁😁

lusty plank
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I’m sorry but this shit sucks

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Wtf am I even looking at

verbal forge
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wtf is this shit update

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what im i supose to do with the leg+ fodder now

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they are actualy braindead

main pasture
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So now my elite+ are not useable to upgrade my A5 ???

verbal forge
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why the fuck cant you retire them it makes no sense

lusty plank
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They had 0 need to even change this shit

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Something that has been in the game since day 1 of beta

cold current
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Lilith moment homegalul

lusty plank
verbal forge
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no i mean you cant do anythong with leg+ fodder now

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like are they fucking stupid

lusty plank
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Making problems that didn’t even need to happen since at least 2023

verbal forge
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why not let me retire them for the this new faction souls or what the fuck are they called

lusty plank
verbal forge
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wait and now of you have 2 elite+ u cant upgrade

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cuz you need just 1 ?

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and u cant revert the elite+ u can only retire them

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do they even play the game at lilith or they just put random things into an AI

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@vale abyss what is this crap ?

cold current
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BEAR, HELP US BEAR

verbal forge
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wait actualy

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u have to click on the reset heroes tab

cold current
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My head hurts

verbal forge
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reset the game if it missing

cold current
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I don't understand shit

civic rampart
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The temple of ascension is basically useless now 😭

verbal forge
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i restarted and it appears now

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that retire hero tab

civic rampart
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It didn’t show up for me at first either

verbal forge
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ok nvm

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all good now

copper atlas
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do i replace Tasi with Lorsan

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in wishlist

spice orchid
copper atlas
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yeah the lower tier heroes don't show up in retire

verbal forge
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man click on that

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it retires everything

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after it dissapears

spice orchid
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Okok i see it now

copper atlas
civic rampart
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There will be a “retire heroes” on the left drop down on your main page

civic rampart
copper atlas
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idk why they put it there

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😭

civic rampart
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It didn’t show up for me at first

main pasture
sinful violet
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Do you still need the same amount of copys from A1 -> A5 or is that harder now? I dont have any A so I cant test it rn

mellow salmon
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This update is a joke!!! I made many l+ food and now they are useless!!!

sinful violet
mellow salmon
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It says l+ heroes cannot be retired

civic rampart
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There will be a button called retire heroes

civic rampart
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On the left drop down

lusty plank
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The ones that go to 160

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I only see ascended tier ones

civic rampart
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It does

lusty plank
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Unless am blind

civic rampart
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It did them all

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I have literally no fodder other than a single copy of them all now

mellow salmon
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Thank you but still stupid update

sinful violet
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ig its easier to understand for new people on how to upgrade there heroes

civic rampart
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I just want the bundle for Lucilla already

cold current
silent ravine
civic rampart
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I have ZERO SGs

cold current
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I have 41, haha

civic rampart
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I’m not joking either

cold current
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Damn, no diamonds either

civic rampart
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I’m broke af in game rn

cold current
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What did you whale on last time?

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Dims?

civic rampart
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I didn’t spend much on dims actually

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I was more concerned about AwMaetria

cold current
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Yeah that's probably harder to get than dims

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I don't even need to spend anything on dims, it just comes naturally

civic rampart
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I have 8 dim souls waiting on Arthur

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I just need 30 more pieces to get him

cold current
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I unlocked Arthur long time ago

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He's still elite tho

sinful violet
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Do I still need dupes from E -> A or is everything until A just with these coins?

copper atlas
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need dupes still

lusty plank
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Where are they pippega

copper atlas
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the tiers that require dupes basically they just made it so you need # of copies

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like M > A is 4 dupes instead of 2 E+ copies of same hero

civic rampart
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This is how it goes for ascending

sinful violet
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Okay, so the cost are pretty much the same right?

lusty plank
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Yea

civic rampart
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It’s missing the 4 for M+ to A but you should get it

copper atlas
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i got my Trishea to A2 only with 66k diamonds and 70 destiny scrolls, the rates man

hollow flume
civic rampart
copper atlas
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Safe to just use my guaranteed x10 stargaze on Lucilla?

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might carry me

civic rampart
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She just came out no one has tested yet

copper atlas
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true

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i might yolo

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surely won't brick

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trust

silent ravine
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Apparently next hero is Drez for yall

copper atlas
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Is Drez 4f? 👀

civic rampart
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Aw hell nah

hollow flume
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Mauler mauler

copper atlas
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oke thank

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forgor who Drez is

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if he matters homegalul

sinful violet
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I know Trish is really good, but I can only get her up to mythic / maybe Ascended right now. Is that still worth it as my first upgrade even if I cant get her to A1 or A3 really soon, I dont have any better carry tbh.

hollow flume
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lorsob new folks on new servers are in such an disadvantage

copper atlas
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feelsbadman

vagrant sky
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like what do I do with old fodder? got enough for like 6-7 ascensions to A and can't retire now.

hollow flume
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Have to deal with Trishea and Dim heroes

copper atlas
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not like we have much choice

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there is no other option

lime tendon
copper atlas
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it retires em all

civic eagle
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The f, what happen with Rickey Cart? I can delete my epic?

civic rampart
sinful violet
civic valley
#

Let me know what team comps to test for the new hero. I have time to help out

lime tendon
vagrant sky
#

don't see it neither on retire (rickety cart) nor in heroes

copper atlas
lusty plank
#

This is so shit wtf

vagrant sky
civic eagle
#

Someone deleted all coppies in Rickey Cart. Now on they're mad

verbal forge
#

and they all go back to 1 copy

civic rampart
lusty plank
#

What a shit game why did they make it so inconvenient

#

But it worked ty

civic rampart
hollow flume
lusty plank
cold current
civic valley
lusty plank
#

Show us talenerise

civic valley
#

What screenshot? The overview?

lusty plank
#

yeah, i'm curious how she looks built on companions

civic valley
lusty plank
#

hot talenerise

#

@silent ravine here

civic rampart
#

I finally have something to put all my Hypo strength gear on

civic valley
#

This team is doing good so far in friend battles. Going to try some campaign

dusky forge
silent ravine
#

Uh lucilla lowkey stall only hero in classic tidussnout

#

You could try her in invade

civic valley
dusky forge
#

iprex mentioned a player named webb yesterday

cold current
#

So I'm supposed to retire all my copies of heroes right?

hollow flume
#

Yes

lusty plank
cold current
#

Wtf, I retired my Mira copy and now it says I don't have any

civic valley
cold current
civic eagle
#

F

cold current
#

I restarted the game and nothing

#

Did I just lost all my hero copies? My fodder is still there btw

#

Can't retire them

dusky forge
#

this

dusky forge
civic rampart
#

Lilith decided this is the evil year

dusky forge
#

how so

civic rampart
#

The ascend button is literally right above the back button

#

And they removed the temple

dusky forge
#

oh

civic valley
hollow flume
cold current
#

Nah, I figured how to retire them

#

I guess I shouldn't have retired the actual hero copies lol

#

Rip

hollow flume
#

👌

civic eagle
#

Let's reroll my friend

hollow flume
#

Haha

cold current
#

Took a minute to see it

#

For some reason fodder can't be retired in the cart

#

Well, at least now I have a shit ton of space

cosmic junco
#

Bro I logged off for a few hours and I come back to afk area not afk arena tf is this game 💀

civic valley
#

I think it makes you have one copy of everything

cosmic junco
#

Did they put that system in classic to

cold current
#

Nah

cosmic junco
#

Stg ima be mad if they have, it's so ass

cold current
#

They're testing it here

cosmic junco
#

Bet

#

Byebye companions

#

Hello classic

cold current
#

Maybe then will add it there

#

It's always like this

cosmic junco
#

Then they ain't having no more of my money 😬

cold current
cosmic junco
#

Honestly thee worst thing I've ever seen

cold current
#

Classic is fun

#

Companions is boring when there's no collab

civic rampart
#

I returned to classic

cosmic junco
#

Tbf ye I'm enjoying my classic run in 1188 or whatever it is

civic rampart
#

🫡

cold current
#

Besides dailies and expedition

cosmic junco
#

Fr

fallow seal
#

Is she good ?

civic rampart
#

If they opened Lab id be happy

dusky forge
#

and she is good yeah

cold current
#

Then you'll just sim it every day

civic rampart
#

They said they have no plans to even open it yet

hollow flume
#

What are they going to do with the ascension temple tho.

Now we have Lab and temple unused

civic rampart
#

Fr

sleek field
civic rampart
cold current
#

Why when I click the temple it shows my a5 Shaltear and points to the upgrade button when she's maxed out?

sleek field
#

Oh you can see T4 stats already now

civic rampart
#

Let me know how she pairs with Mezoth comps or stall GB Mez comps

cold current
#

I guess they're supposed to teach me how to ascend heroes?

cold current
#

I just don't have any copies

cold current
hollow flume
#

So it directs u to hero interface

sleek field
cold current
#

Literally the only thing I can do rn is ascend my dims

#

And I only have 7 spirits

civic valley
#

@sleek field same for me with T5

civic rampart
civic valley
#

20 copies

civic rampart
#

Sheesh

cold current
civic valley
#

Yeah holy lol

civic rampart
#

And I thought 8 was already a lot

#

😭

civic valley
#

8
10
10
16
20

civic rampart
#

It’s weird it doesn’t increase for t3

#

I mean that’s fine don’t increase it

civic valley
#

Yeah I was glad but then it jumped so much for T4 so I guess it evens out

civic rampart
sleek field
cold current
#

I'm so sad rn, I just wasted all my hero copies

#

Wth

sleek field
#

T5 is wild lmao

#

I need 8 more Lucilla copies for A5, including the 6 from bundle

civic rampart
#

Oh Webb can you test Lucilla in Mez GB stall

civic eagle
#

Is Lucilla good?

dusky forge
#

Yes

civic valley
cosmic junco
#

Splitting my copies is crazy work from this game to like bro what is this update 💀

#

Are they trying to only get new players or like what

civic rampart
#

You could also replace Merlin imo

civic valley
#

Yeah I’ll try both

civic rampart
#

You could variate the backline however but Mezoth Grez front is the main part

civic valley
#

I’ll fight some friends

civic rampart
civic valley
#

What pet? Awakened pet? @civic rampart

placid stump
#

What the HELL is this new update and why can’t i upgrade him??

civic valley
#

Or GB?

civic rampart
#

I use Spirit orb personally

#

The gb

civic valley
#

Ok

civic rampart
#

It’s on the main page

#

When you log on

cosmic junco
#

The main issue tho is that the game still gives you blue heroes

civic rampart
#

You get 1 copy

cosmic junco
#

And converts half the blue heroes into barrack coins instead of an actual soul 💀

civic rampart
#

And then the rest turn into materials

placid stump
#

But why did they change this??

civic rampart
#

Fuck if I know

cosmic junco
#

Because the game is ass

#

Tryna make it easier for new players

#

While fking over people who actually will play the game

#

I ain't even gonna learn the new system I'm just gonna hope for it's removal. An if not then I'm removing myself 💀 genuinely thee worst game update I've ever seen. And I played bo7 release.

worn socket
#

So these just collecting dust now?

civic rampart
placid stump
# placid stump Ty

I just hope that by doing this you don’t need more heros than before for upgrading your heroes

civic rampart
#

Idk about fodder

#

But I know that the copies are the same

sleek field
#

So we retire all these?

civic rampart
civic valley
cosmic junco
#

Half the blues you summon don't even give u the 1 soul

civic valley
#

On the campaign menu bottom left of the bar on the side. Hit that retire all button. That will convert everything to how the new way is

timid briar
cosmic junco
#

And you need 70 odd for an ascension 💀

timid briar
#

omg

civic rampart
cosmic junco
#

They literally dont

timid briar
#

why they didn't do it automaticaly

cosmic junco
#

I've just summoned 100

civic rampart
worn socket
cosmic junco
#

The amount of coins I got

civic valley
#

This team beat my other stall team @civic rampart

civic rampart
sleek field
#

Shit is confusing as hell

civic valley
#

Removing Merlin was not the move tho lol

placid stump
civic rampart
#

Lmao

#

Merlin is a core part of the team

cosmic junco
civic rampart
cosmic junco
#

Shafting the current playerbase and tryna reel in newbies

civic valley
placid stump
sleek field
civic valley
#

@sleek field it went away

#

But right there

cosmic junco
placid stump
#

Yeah

cosmic junco
#

Is a simple system I'll give them that

civic valley
#

Wait how is it worse? It’s just different

cosmic junco
#

But it's so ass. They fixing sh that don't need fixing

cosmic junco
silent ravine
#

I mean r u sure?

cosmic junco
#

Literally just summoned 100

#

Got mostly blues. More coins than souls

silent ravine
#

Someone could screen record it and report it as a possible bug

civic rampart
#

I pulled 50 and all of them were souls

#

Except one I didn’t have a copy of

cosmic junco
#

💀🙏 am I js being scammed then

civic valley
#

I just pulled a ton and got souls everytime it wasn’t a “new” copy

#

Also I got a bunch of souls from retiring all my saved fodder

cosmic junco
#

Lowkey I made a few thousand Barracks coins summoning 💀

#

And 20 souls max

#

To put into perspective I retired heroes for 64 lightbearer souls

#

Then after summoning 100

#

I still don't have the 74 I need to ascend

lusty plank
#

U do this

idle elbow
#

What's with the new update in Companion? It's harder now to evolve characters for me

silent ravine
#

Ig they should have put a big ass arrow pointing to the right place

#

design flaw

civic rampart
#

I had to restart

worn socket
civic rampart
#

You’ll get 1 copy of every fodder and green hero yeah

worn socket
#

Wow so useful 👏

civic rampart
#

🤷🏻‍♂️

timid briar
worn socket
#

Might as well

#

Put a full set of gear on them and send them in

brave plaza
worn socket
#

Wym, dont click ascend maybe

civic rampart
#

There’s a button in heroes at the top that shows all heroes you can ascend at the moment

brave plaza
#

I cannot access the Temple of Ascension in that case

civic rampart
#

The one with the green arrow

brave plaza
#

Yea, I know about that one

#

but this is just bad UI

civic rampart
#

Temple of ascension is inaccessible now

#

It’s all done via the heroes tab now

civic rampart
#

Literally my reaction

cold current
civic rampart
cold current
#

What was I even supposed to do? I don't understand

#

I clicked everywhere

civic rampart
#

There was this button on your left drop down

placid stump
#

I really do think that they should have put this update only on newer server

civic rampart
#

Or just not do it at all

brave plaza
#

Now we need 8 copies for Ascended?

civic rampart
#

It’s always been 4 copies for m+ to a

fiery river
civic rampart
#

It’s not

brave plaza
#

I have x2 E+

#

and 2 copies sitting alone

civic rampart
#

It’s 2 e

#

Not e+

brave plaza
#

I have see

#

the food

civic rampart
#

Oh you have to press this

#

I swear they should’ve made this the first thing that pops up when you log on

fiery river
#

I dont see that option

civic rampart
#

You’ll have to relog then

#

If it still doesn’t you’re either fine or it’s a bug and I can’t help you

cosmic junco
#

Ooo since lilith like adding useless things, they should make it so I can play on any version of the game like minecraft, so I can just go away from this update without making them get rid of it

#

Or maybe add a quit button, which just closes the app so I don't have to hit the home button

#

Maybe a brightness setting 🤨 I cba change phones brightness

steep current
#

anyone know what the new code gives yet?

cold current
cosmic junco
#

15 scrolls 5 stargazer and 1k gems

cold current
#

Not a tiny button that can be hidden

cosmic junco
#

Both combined

civic eagle
steep current
sleek field
#

100% that many people will use the wrong retire button

civic eagle
#

Tbh this feature just for old acc. New acc is hard to get ascend coz really need to get epic than making epic

hollow flume
#

makes things clean and tidy. I like it

#

tho as Goober said. the implementation could have been much better with the Retire Heroes tab appeared right at the beginning

cosmic junco
copper atlas
#

Worth changing Tasi to Lorsan in wishlist?

#

now that he's available

cosmic junco
#

Their 2 that I don't wl anyway 😂

copper atlas
#

I'm new so

civic valley
copper atlas
#

oke thank yeah will probably do the same then

steep current
hollow flume
copper atlas
#

🙏

hollow flume
#

also new code

copper atlas
#

Thank you!!

hollow flume
#

did it on Albaz but think u want on the other acc also

steep current
hollow flume
#

I'm just happy with free stuff tho :3

copper atlas
#

lowk going to the site to redeem pmo

#

but anyways

steep current
silent ravine
#

What’s the reward for classic tidussnout

cosmic junco
steep current
steep current
silent ravine
#

Vicksin ban him

copper atlas
#

did they remove unequip all lmao

silent ravine
#

<@&545792117956673538>

copper atlas
agile granite
#

Should be good now

abstract osprey
#

anyone knows where do find the redeem codes for companion?

cunning rose
#

Hey guys, can antandra, cha hae in, and kasio work on the same comp?

steep current
cosmic junco
steep current
#

every time

silent ravine
#

Spoon the goat

steep current
silent ravine
#

Jd the helpful unc

cosmic junco
#

Yeah but transcended vs the whole ascension system

#

Lil different

steep current
#

i'm pretty confident it's not gonna happen lol

#

plz ping me and make me eat my words if i'm ever wrong though, i'll remember you 🫡

hollow flume
maiden hare
steep current
#

*inb4 you get GG with all 4 cardinal zones + new totems + new stats (haste too now wooooo) + etc*

steep current
hollow flume
#

what is GG

silent ravine
#

But instead of pets

#

U do it for every hero

#

That’s GG

hollow flume
#

Sounds like a great way to milk money

steep current
hollow flume
silent ravine
#

If you don’t have perk pass gg was basically unplayable

steep current
# hollow flume <:brutus:560862453945073674>

idk how to describe in companions terms since idk if you even have artifacts
even summarizing i can't do it justice
but basically you go through a complete rng hellscape to equip the collection with randomly dropped stats, 3 offensive 3 defensive and 1 flex spot (unless you use an item that lets you equip a second flex spot and makes stats way more buffed so it's essentially mandatory for almost every collection)
insanely game defining, just equipping your carries with massive ATK% buffs, IS buffs, energy recovery buffs, etc etc etc
trying to keep it brief so i'll stop there lmao

cosmic junco
#

But with a change like that it's hard to imagine they'd make half the game like that and other half not

#

Since companions is the "beginners afk arena"

steep current
cosmic junco
#

Most people start there then go classic with their knowledge from comp

steep current
silent ravine
#

Just drop all rgms into comp

#

Especially current nc cycle tidussnout

cosmic junco
#

I mean yeah classic is like 10x bigger and better than comp. But it is still just half the game

steep current
hollow flume
#

lol

silent ravine
#

I feel like comp is so barebones I can’t enjoy playing a game like this

cosmic junco
#

I've had to convince loads of people to leave companions cus it's that much easier the newbies prefer it

steep current
silent ravine
#

Gg is dogshit

#

However uh

#

Certain heroes really need gg

steep current
#

yeah it's game breaking

silent ravine
#

Like wippa wucuis Misha Aurelia

#

They become actual dogshit without the stats from gg

steep current
#

people really thought they could just ignore it for the longest time

#

and just bricked their accounts

silent ravine
#

Just got myself a 4 is storm

steep current
#

and then quit kekw

silent ravine
#

I’m really happy

#

Now I just need a belgris coll lorsob

steep current
#

yeah that's really good, i got mine to 3 IS and could recast the last slot but don't wanna now that pippa gets 30 more is from the new feature

silent ravine
#

But yes gg is prob never coming here

#

You alr have pets

steep current
silent ravine
#

Which is honestly a huge downgrade from our pet system

#

Reso was honestly perfect

steep current
steep current
#

didn't make enough money

#

is Arcane Lab open yet finally 1.5y later?

silent ravine
#

No

steep current
#

LMAO

#

i was joking

#

god this shit is sad

silent ravine
#

They got rift before labyrinth

steep current
#

"coming soon!"

#

just remove it, man

silent ravine
#

I think the simple barebones style really hurts it

steep current
#

it's so weird. idk i'm very companions averse

silent ravine
#

There’s nothing to whale for

#

No rgms to compete

#

Which means less money overall, which means they gotta milk whatever they can

#

Honestly I really feel like nc and ts would help out comp a lot

cosmic junco
#

It'd be such a good addition lowkey

silent ravine
#

Before ts and nc there was campaign pushing

#

And I got bored

#

Like after 39

#

Like at least add misty valley

#

If all the content is just campaign

#

You can even make misty an rgm

#

By seeing how far people can push

maiden hare
#

Overall solid change

cosmic junco
#

That's cus I'm not a new player

#

It's messed me up

dusky forge
#

how

maiden hare
cosmic junco
#

Got bugged and half my blues js gave coins after summoning. Only like 60% of them gave me a soul.
And I knew exactly where I was on ascension
Now I need to rework out basically everything to know my next step

hollow flume
cosmic junco
#

Oh yeah don't get me wrong
I think it's a good idea
Just the way they did it just nahh there's a few things they need to tweak

#

But the point of my suggestion is "don't fix what's not broken"

#

It wasn't an issue it was pretty straight forward

silent ravine
#

This genuinely Lilith forgot moment

cosmic junco
#

I'm like 99% sure there's part of the tutorial which shows u how to ascend

#

Noobs don't have a problem with ascension they have a problem choosing who to ascend fr
That's the problem they shoulda worked on fr

woeful eagle
#

if they told you who to ascend and everyone had the same people it would be boring no?

cosmic junco
#

Well I'm not saying they should tell you who to ascend

#

I'm saying that that's the only issue new players have when it comes to ascending
I'd know I've restarted so many times and just guided people and made top guilds with people who've never played the game

#

The game should advise you to not make legendary heroes and just wait for the extra copies to instantly leg+ cus legendary is such a bottleneck

bronze bloom
#

This update was of no use honestly, let alone they added a hero they shouldn’t have added just bcs of “aesthetics”, they saw upon the votes from 1 month ago which kind of aesthetics the afk arena players like that’s why they added Lucilla

#

and they made her dependent too, she’s dependent on another useless hero, kinda shady men ngl

stray thunder
#

i just summoned her from the stargaze lol

bronze bloom
#

The fact thats her skills are dependent of Liberta is not good, I’m not wasting 2k scrolls just to get both and they won’t overperform neither, they are from different factions, it’s not good at all for f2p

stray thunder
cosmic junco
#

😅 trust me bro that happens when I first first started I mainly used fodder heroes cus they were so abundant
Then realised they couldn't go past leg+ 😂

stray thunder
cosmic junco
#

I was a kid tho so that kinda js happened 😂

stray thunder
#

haha tru. i just used the ones that looked good to me

cosmic junco
#

Ahah yeah tbh I think that's what majority do, whoever looks the coolest must be the best

#

Cus that's normally how it is 😂

bronze bloom
#

just commit to her now

cosmic junco
#

Talene is definitely thee best to gaze, after getting a single mortas copy ofc 😅

stray thunder
#

im f2p belovedzikis (cant pull more lol)

maiden hare
bronze bloom
maiden hare
#

don't gaze for him

cosmic junco
stray thunder
cosmic junco
#

Arena shop I just buy gazes lmao

bronze bloom
#
  • she’s support so where tf u will use her besides campaign and pvp maybe, no dmg in bosses like talene
cosmic junco
stray thunder
bronze bloom
#

The fact that hypogeans and celestials are kinda underperforming even though they only for p2w it’s kinda mindboggling 🤔 atp I just get walker 5 stars and get free carries on bosses

cosmic junco
#

Walker really is a carry honestly

#

Same with gwenyth

stray thunder
#

ooh i see. yeah walker is good...i only got two copies of him sadly.

#

same with mishka...she just hates my guts bro

cosmic junco
#

😂 took me ages to get my mishka copies on my 292 honestly

#

Walker the same but he just slaps anytime

stray thunder
#

yeah, walker is good even on 2 copies. he does good in guild boss too

cosmic junco
#

I'd say he's sort of a 1 copy wonder if you have the tanks to keep him from death

stray thunder
cosmic junco
#

Sonja is so good

#

Got her ascended first

stray thunder
#

yesss. she's never let me down man.

stray thunder
cosmic junco
#

This my s292 (I left for 2 weeks and js got back so I'm behind by far)

stray thunder
cosmic junco
#

Fr, I'm bummed I missed expedition tbh or I'd have 260s or 280s rn

#

I'm still in best league but didn't get the resources for 2 weeks

stray thunder
cosmic junco
#

That's 5k a day 14 days 😂

stray thunder
#

in the last week i had 9999/d lol

#

i lowered the diamonds for essence

cosmic junco
#

Yeah fr genuinely missed out but life happened 😅 so
I left #2 guild in good hands tho fr they still #2 😂

stray thunder
#

tru...life is life.

cosmic junco
#

Region is gonna open soon that'll make it even more fun 😂

stray thunder
#

ooh yeah! that will mess up the rankings lol

cosmic junco
#

We the third server of the region so we won't be to far behind

stray thunder
#

i used to be top in top 30 in dream realm...now i m pushed to 140 😂

cosmic junco
#

There's a bunch of whales in 290 I believe tho 😬

stray thunder
#

dam

#

thas gonna be tough

cosmic junco
#

I was pushing top 3 in my server for a while then I left for a bit. Now top 200

#

Yeah their the first server of my region

cosmic junco
#

It'll be fun

dusky forge
#

but less than 298-305 probably (amount of whales)

cosmic junco
#

You'd think it'd be more at 290 cus that's when dim event started no?

stray thunder
cosmic junco
#

So peeps restart then and spend loads for tornado

stray thunder
#

napolean the biggest haha

stray thunder
dusky forge
stray thunder
#

i wasted my diamonds on saitamahomegalul

cosmic junco
cosmic junco
#

My servers got like 5-10 whales max 😂 there's a bunch of big players but not Whaley

dusky forge
#

my main server also only has like 5 whales rest are low spender or f2p or quit

cosmic junco
#

Yee

dusky forge
#

but i am not complaining i couldn't compete if there was more

cosmic junco
#

S83 died out so bad I'm so unhappy 🫤 shalltear was goated

stray thunder
#

my server chat is always dead lol..many quit

cosmic junco
stray thunder
#

or moved to get the dimensionals

cosmic junco
#

Yeah that happens fr

stray thunder
dusky forge
#

i can still get top 30 for regional tho sometimes

cosmic junco
#

Yeah I brought a team for both my accounts and the club frame for .89

stray thunder
#

i bought the framebelovedzikis

stray thunder