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Once I got a hero to mythic can I use more copies of the hero as food?
My pet does more damage
No you still need stars
crazy creep in classic
last time i looked into classic liberta link was like highest dps
@timber cipher that question is for you 🤣🙏
His highlight is giving mehira infinite energy
Okay so keep them at elite?
was kelthur or whoever not in between those
No take them to their breakpoints
=compguide
depends on how for your athalia is
but we're kinda using Arthur everywhere ond athalia mostly on counter occasions
Chicken is prob best for dream realm
so my guess is overall arthur >
Dream realm chiken
pvp athalia
Wont go for 5*
o without 5* i wouldnt bother +30ing her
yea but like usally the cycle is hypo -> all 4 factions -> celestial -> all 4 factions -> hypo
ahh yeah i get what you're saying now
I am dolphin can't get her to 5* 🙂
so considering that its kinda weird that we got hypo -> graveborn -> hypo
^^ yea then I'd go with arhur/chiken
we had haelus into selene i believe but that was prob bc it was a mirror drop
Thanks
yea dual drops were weird we got a mira into another release randomly
believe we had ferael - dims and at the end of dims and like 3-4 days after ferael ended we got the mira dual release
so dual releases with classic also are kinda weird for us
but frampton / lucilla arent new and arent dual with classic which is 
a lot of stuff that is milking us lately related to cele/hypos and fabled pets
I mean at least it wasn’t dragonlite>higborn>hypo>dragonlite 
also cele hypos have +20% avg over normal heroes
so for companions cele/hypos are kinda highborn
im wondering whether we get fked over with goulish gallery
or whether they fk you guys over with like "fabled weapons" 
Never
i mean they gave you guys fabled pets
Unless they refuse to rework
Aurelia
Alucius
Misha
Those heroes specifically need gg stats
Otherwise they are literally worthless
i mean for you guys they could have still gg running and add features ontop
not like you guys had seal
from what I heard early everyone said pega is just seal v2
but like we kinda really need something to make energy hungry heroes viable they suffer the most in comp lmao
and like all energy generating abilities in companions are quite nerfed

thats what im kinda thinking that unless we get some way of turning the mehira or twins engine on that there is no way
because we have now tons of classic players
but we havent seen one old god comp with twins
and damn I tried hard to make one but energy related stuff is being blasted by base stats
only consistend hero that we're able to cycle with cheese heroes like arthur/merlin e.g.
is selene
cause we can advance selene moonphases and kinda cycle her with other heroes early ult
we don't have any kind of rotation since months
Maulers have 1 hero more than every other faction and they get another one next patch
Drez
nvm I confused them with LB 
on the other hand Wilders are missing 1 hero from last rotation, they are 1/2 less than every other faction (not counting Asolise)
so we could expect some double wilders release before and after dims or something like that
i think wilders are lacking in classic too
No
is gorok the beetle lookin dude
It was the case since before gorok it was misha mid 2024
is it worth rebirthin
makes sense why i thought that bc that's around when i quit classic
does rebirthing have any downsides at all?
enemy teams tank that like its nothing damn
this is why raku was so strong in classic
also was good in DR (CR in classic) but the 2nd ult skill tanked your dps hard
problem is we dont have the energy regen and cc that classic had through that energy regen
he is too slow to work in almost every comp
no not raku
but the heroes that go with him
like mehira
like leonardo
if i have raku + leonardo i have 0 dps for the first 10-15s
and i wipe
if i have leonardo khazard that is already hard enough to setup
interestingly ezizh nrg battery got buffed here
but he was never good in campaign - exploded too fast to run a cycle comp. the passive nrg gain wasnt that bad tho
i did use that for tatsu some time ago
but you have tatsu forcefield
aBrutus push + knockup
skreg push
ezizh taunt
and kren stun just to setup energy gain
and not even on a "clean" level
the lack of dodge/immunities/death cheats hurts more than the nrg loss imo
if u can stall long enough, then youll get the nrg. u cant stall here tho
alna 9f my beloved 💔
i just think that the artifacts aswell as haste in the tree provided in classic kinda outscaled so much pve content
and without that a lot of people are lost
cause you had mehira almost insta ult easily with book or duras call
and not even sure how much more powercreep came from ghoulish gallery stats
but like ghoulish, engraving, furni and world tree is like +80% stats on us and way more unique stats like haste
++ our haste stats in SI is lower than in classic
ghoulish gallery is unique artifacts that gave tons of stats
like artifact collection
oh collections. i hated those so much they made me quit
ye
as far as im aware they gave so much stats
like classic was able to do that much because your heroes were pumped
and im not sure but seeing the trillions of dmg - there is also double dipping involved between those multipliers probably
oh, I think I forgot to tell you. I did confirm that companions runs on a different damage formula
glad to hear that we weren't imagining things
I did an old test from classic and the numbers did not come close to matching
Ye envy was doing like trillions on uncapped bosses
Whel accs was doing almost quintillions on uncapped bosses
but tbf we didnt do as much in-depth stuff as you and others did for classic all that time
i did pretty in-depth hero lineup testing based on old metas
but actually finding that dmg formula is a pita. the only thing I can confidently say is that the effect of Defense got a serious buff here, meaning "typical" damage is tuned down, making 'health loss' effects stronger by comparison
Pretty sure defense and attack formula in classic is just linear
not at all
in classic, it was common knowledge that albedo's +75% def sig resulted in... +1%EHP. actually trash
and that was calc'd at equal deficit, ie pvp
for campaign pushing? it did absolutely nothing
classic's formula was solved at least 4 years b4 companions even existed. it's
(AM)^2/(AM+5D)
where A is attacker's attack, M is skill multiplier, and D is target's defense
everything else (crits, pierce/res) is an independent multiplier that applies after the dmg formula
yeah. that's also why atk buffs were better than damage buffs of an equal %
what I can tell based from companions is that crit resistence shred provided by sjw/lyca/belinda e.g.
dominates the numbers game
are u referring to cbr or cdr
cuz theyre quite different
granted, crit got heavily nerfed here too. abel in classic regularly crested 110 crit, and palmer, a broken support unit, gave additional pierce if u crossed 100 crit
here I havent seen units beyond 60 crit
lyca reduces cbr. belinda reduces cdr. sjw does both
Cbr reduces chance to crit, cdr reduces crit damage
all of them are always used in every global boss comp setup
I'm not sure whats the formular either and whether we can go beyond 60 cda
But considering most heroes do not work like gwyneth/walker so they don't really have 60 cda by themself - which lets them hit harder
cause negative cdr counts
aswell as prob negative cbr
o thats good to know so lyca is in that case just the dmg/atk multi
yeah I did confirm that -cdr existed in classic
-cbr was difficult to test but now that i think ab it, I have an idea on how to do it. but it's a classic test, doesnt work here
pretty sure I can say that negative cdr matters here aswell
yeah also every mage used to have like, 15-20 cda just from legendary furn, not even mythic furn
here it feels like nb has cda unless it's from a skill
They both are stats displayed no?
but I don't have numbers to proof that
like logically, -cbr was always a thing
bc lyca's skill worked even before cbr became an official stat
which means all enemies had 0 cbr and if lyca still worked, negatives must be occurring
during battle. nobody starts at negative, 0 at worst. neither of those stats display during battle so u have to calc stuff to prove negatives get counted
my biggest question would be if it kinda double dips
like is it just a addition to your usual crit
or does your crit value multiply if enemy has negative cbr
This is my 9f Aurelia
I want that 15 cda per furn
because if we can double dip on that then thats huge stat
crits dont multiply on each other. u crit or u dont
100 Crit vs 0 CBR, always crits
80 Crit vs -20 CBR, always crits*. I have a test in mind to prove this but i cant do it atm
give me all those juicy classic free stats 
alr so just addition - makes sense
and there's no benefit from cresting 100 crit, except in classic a support called palmer had a skill that did exactly that
otherwise you could setup walker for instant 60 cda
cda caps at 290
no thats generally not the issue - but like most heroes dont get a lot of cr
we have like mostly 20-30 cr without like raine e.g.
that's a hard cap too. even gwyn skill + 60cda will not cross 290%
mages get 50 from gear iirc
Panda and wippa the fucking goat 
int*, not mages
yea thats my trish
not that supports really need crit
thats like t2 head and weapon from my haelus
the 43.2% comes from the t2 weapon tho. t3/4 didnt give additional crit iirc
This t2
in classic, every INT hero had 70-80 just from gear. this was before tree and furn and whatevr
but like a lot of heroes that would benefit from crit like walker lack crit
is what i mean
so multis on like those heroes that double dip could've been nice
which is good imo. classic crit was ridiculous. u shud not be critting every hit w minimal invest
It’s like a minuscule difference
kren helps a lot too. aoe crit buff
it's literally 0 crit diff
tbf i think there should be mechanics like overcrit
turning each crit over 100% into cda
cda is capped tho
prob not that balanced for classic but like whatever classic is - isnt balanced in the first place
That’s Palmer
think that shouldnt be a thing either
there were mages that already capped cda so that wouldnt even do anything
i think it was capped to prevent ae bosses from absolutely nuking players who had low relics
Oh ye it was kaeleon
i mean you could just do a check if its pve and give it a pve tag and turn an artifiicial cap on t hat
not relevant here, but there was a dmg quest in classic to hit prince, so they had to dumb it down a bit to aid bad players
like its an lazy explanation to cap cda to prevent pve from killing you
because there are prob 1000 ways to balance it otherwise
Yeah it was 10bil before
but i getcha not that you're at fault for that - intresting to know
They nerfed it to 100 mil
some units like abel with arthur and palmer and rosa, genuinely could cross 170 crit
and gwyn/ainz could cross 400% cda multiplier
in classic
I’m pretty sure my envy crosses cda cap
yea but like turn on a pve tile check on abex
that just cheks whether the team belongs to a unique player uuid or smth like that
With help
But ye panda op for that reason
Same thing with wippa
They uncap cda
but really once you're crossing like 400/500% cda multiplier, it's so cooked. normal heroes will never catch up
It’s also why Randle is so fucking good for bosses
His snakes doesn’t have stat caps
It’s just accepted atp
grez was thought to be uncapped. ainz too. i proved both wrong
Someone could try to test like a 290 cda palmer with highest attack and link it to randle
The attack is capped at 100%
is intresting tho - that they're trying to prevent the most broken interactions for companions
so they kinda learned from classic
tho i dont understand why they allow the fabled pet creeping (prob just to have whalebait)
But pp and mp I’m pretty sure is uncapped
fabled pets and sg pmo in companions. i think they fumbled hard on those
i think they should rework sg cards and implement them in a normal reward circle and allow players to build them
atm there is like no way in hell that f2ps can every build more than one a5 hero if they need to keep up with SI grind
correct
technically resist is capped, bc logically 100 resist is complete immunity and some heroes actually achieved that. so they introduced pierce to scale back on that
Pp and mp had caps tho
never did when i played
Randles snakes im pretty sure just ignores those caps
oh and also garrison. they fumbled that too. I totally understand wanting to scale the game down to keep it slower paced, more casual
there's no fukin reason that so many units are completely impossible to build
Mezoth had >90PR in classic iirc
yea with t3/t4 gear and tree effects/artifacts i can see that
I completly agree
They lowkey kinda shoehorned themselves with wokes as well
What do about 2nd woke from each faction 
I don't think a player starting a year later should be like "o damn I wish I had that hero, but I'm never able to get that one" - thats pretty bad.
prob will add a currency unlock
That’s why we are asking bear about shalltear and sjw for garrison, they haven’t come back
It’s not like here where
It’s like livable
they already nerfed awks quite a bit. 30-40% of their skills literally dont exist here bc they were tied to si/f, and they dont get divines
pretty sure that it wont say "hero stars" and will just add like some weird currency systems
If ur missing sjw and shalltear u cant compete in ts
If ur missing cha and marci ur giga fucked in nc
u know there's a region where only some servers got tatsu and now theyre gonna be paired together for who knows how long until regions expand? how unfair is that
Yea we had that with shalltear and overlord dims early on
R54 is currently shitting itself bc there’s people with saitama
And there’s people without saitama
The entire woke prio needs to be redone soon because of lack of garrison
that s130+ had to compete without getting those and on like s160+ was the marci release
so people from s130+ onmly had marci/laios and had to compete with shalltear quite a long time in pvp events
tho for classic pvp is much more common and so its worse there
in companions there is expedition
region arena is kinda kept in "fair" brackets I believe
alliance is just the unfair think where it goes global pvp
but tbf we havent seen alliance for quite the while
Pvp wise it’s bad, but region splits has handled that decently well
NC ur just fucked lmao
abex shouldnt be that hard to port over either. idk why theyve abandoned that
Like no marci=ggs
GF replaced that pretty sure
we had 2-3 seasons of abex
my region had 2
just before me the folks had 3
We haven’t had abex in 7 months
they were able to redo every season and it had the classic heroes in it
GF and abex run simultaneously on new servers
they just... stop doing abex after #2
they did 3
but stopped on S83+
ye
which makes no sense. u can recycle the map, or port maps from classic
u have all the assets alrdy. i dont see the issue
They stopped doing abex like right before they ported gf over
yea everyone is mad about it
for spire do I choose training or summoning stuff?
prob cause bigshots want to see expedidtion running cause some dipshit was saying that is what players want that is where resources will go to
In all technicality gf gives better rewards
But GF is a piece of dogshit to manage
Shadow realm still isn’t accessible
And so many mechanics aren’t clear
not sure what you're refering to for spire its just most trophies > most diamonds
i get additional rewards apparently
i get a choice of training or summon supplies
oo
you can preview them
ones are emblems
ones are scrolls/stargazers
training is SI
and most pick SI
ik. im asking which is better value cuz i dont have a good sense of that here
you get like 2 sg cards
think we havent crowd sourced it yet I almost always picked SI stuff cause on my f2p i always needed that
eventho dust is negative value
blue like bluestones are also zero value so
yeah. sg is supposed to be high value bc scarcity but i wont see the benefit of that until >1 yr out
yep
wdym isnt accessible?
so uhm y'all want abex back is what I am gathering?
Yes
and temporal rift s2 would be cool
Yes
We kinda want breaks from normal expedition yea.
I saw that 
i think cuase the feedback on that event was so overwhelmingly positive theyll consider bringing it back
cause
I am still so sleepy T_T
Expedition requires atm soo much planing and is still stressful for many regions ;w; - rough rough.
Time for a nap - will prob head to bed soon too lmao.
Am limit testing campaign but it doesnt look to good for me.
1 and 2 are done
5 will probably win and work
but 3 isnt working
and 4 im pretty uncertain aswell
ahaha 10AM here too early for a nap, but looking forward to the one after lunch :3
you also get a good rest!
can go back to grinding campaign tomorrow hehe
prob best to do that - quick shower and bed time gn gn
Training or Summon Resources?
When upd
Any working codes?
Doesn't really matter, it's not much anyway. I usually pick training
Upd soon 😁😁😁😁
wtf is this shit update
what im i supose to do with the leg+ fodder now
they are actualy braindead
So now my elite+ are not useable to upgrade my A5 ???
why the fuck cant you retire them it makes no sense
I just hate the fact that they made they layout ass now
They had 0 need to even change this shit
Something that has been in the game since day 1 of beta
Lilith moment 

Making problems that didn’t even need to happen since at least 2023
why not let me retire them for the this new faction souls or what the fuck are they called

wait and now of you have 2 elite+ u cant upgrade
cuz you need just 1 ?
and u cant revert the elite+ u can only retire them
do they even play the game at lilith or they just put random things into an AI
@vale abyss what is this crap ?
Summoning Bear like Mahoraga lol
BEAR, HELP US BEAR
My head hurts
reset the game if it missing
I don't understand shit
The temple of ascension is basically useless now 😭
It didn’t show up for me at first either
But how to retire the lower tiers?
yeah the lower tier heroes don't show up in retire
Okok i see it now
click on? 😭 sorry i'm confused af
There will be a “retire heroes” on the left drop down on your main page
thank you
that was it

It didn’t show up for me at first
Yep im not stressed anymore 😂
Do you still need the same amount of copys from A1 -> A5 or is that harder now? I dont have any A so I cant test it rn
This update is a joke!!! I made many l+ food and now they are useless!!!
Read up a bit
... as mentioned before there is a menu button
It says l+ heroes cannot be retired
On your left drop down when you open the game
There will be a button called retire heroes
Bro it doesn’t let u do shit with the fodder heroes lol
The ones that go to 160
I only see ascended tier ones
It does
It did them all
I have literally no fodder other than a single copy of them all now
Thank you but still stupid update
ig its easier to understand for new people on how to upgrade there heroes
Bro's itching to spend his money

Weak whel just whel rn 
I have 41, haha
Damn, no diamonds either
I’m broke af in game rn
Yeah that's probably harder to get than dims
I don't even need to spend anything on dims, it just comes naturally
Do I still need dupes from E -> A or is everything until A just with these coins?
need dupes still
Where are they 
same thing, just that the tiers requiring fodder are now with souls
the tiers that require dupes basically they just made it so you need # of copies
like M > A is 4 dupes instead of 2 E+ copies of same hero
This is how it goes for ascending
Okay, so the cost are pretty much the same right?
Yea
It’s missing the 4 for M+ to A but you should get it
i got my Trishea to A2 only with 66k diamonds and 70 destiny scrolls, the rates man



Apparently next hero is Drez for yall
Is Drez 4f? 👀
Aw hell nah
Mauler 
I know Trish is really good, but I can only get her up to mythic / maybe Ascended right now. Is that still worth it as my first upgrade even if I cant get her to A1 or A3 really soon, I dont have any better carry tbh.
new folks on new servers are in such an disadvantage
feelsbadman
like what do I do with old fodder? got enough for like 6-7 ascensions to A and can't retire now.
Have to deal with Trishea and Dim heroes
Still steps closer to A5 and getting Wilder foods
not like we have much choice
there is no other option

How much from m+ to ascended?
in drop down tab at the left scroll down to see retire heroes
it retires em all
The f, what happen with Rickey Cart? I can delete my epic?
Look under that post 2 messages down
Yeah true ig haha
Let me know what team comps to test for the new hero. I have time to help out
which screen?
Sorry mb
don't see it neither on retire (rickety cart) nor in heroes
main page, ranhorn. also in campaign. the drop down bar at the left where the events are
This is so shit wtf
oh shi, u're right! thanks alot
Someone deleted all coppies in Rickey Cart. Now on they're mad
click on the retire heroes tab mate
and they all go back to 1 copy
Did you whel her alr?
The retire heroes button when you first get on should change everything to e 🤷♂️




Yes to what i think you are asking
Show us 
What screenshot? The overview?
yeah, i'm curious how she looks built on companions
I finally have something to put all my Hypo strength gear on
are you the legendary webb?
Probably not, but maybe. Lol Idk what you are referring to tho
iprex mentioned a player named webb yesterday
So I'm supposed to retire all my copies of heroes right?
Yes
This ye
Wtf, I retired my Mira copy and now it says I don't have any
I missed it so not too sure
I don't understand
F
I restarted the game and nothing
Did I just lost all my hero copies? My fodder is still there btw
Can't retire them

are you that web
Lilith decided this is the evil year
how so
The ascend button is literally right above the back button
And they removed the temple

oh
Yeah that’s me
Ur folder is still there?
Nah, I figured how to retire them
I guess I shouldn't have retired the actual hero copies lol
Rip
👌
Let's reroll my friend
Haha
It was under the events tab
Took a minute to see it
For some reason fodder can't be retired in the cart
Well, at least now I have a shit ton of space
Bro I logged off for a few hours and I come back to afk area not afk arena tf is this game 💀
I think it makes you have one copy of everything
Did they put that system in classic to
Nah
Stg ima be mad if they have, it's so ass
They're testing it here
Then they ain't having no more of my money 😬
Back to black
Honestly thee worst thing I've ever seen
I returned to classic
Tbf ye I'm enjoying my classic run in 1188 or whatever it is
🫡
I don't really have to do anything here
Besides dailies and expedition
Fr
Is she good ?
If they opened Lab id be happy
It'd be fun for sometime
Then you'll just sim it every day
They said they have no plans to even open it yet
What are they going to do with the ascension temple tho.
Now we have Lab and temple unused

Fr

Why when I click the temple it shows my a5 Shaltear and points to the upgrade button when she's maxed out?
Oh you can see T4 stats already now
Let me know how she pairs with Mezoth comps or stall GB Mez comps
I guess they're supposed to teach me how to ascend heroes?
Transcending
I just don't have any copies
I don't have it unlocked tho
U cant access the temple anymore
So it directs u to hero interface
I dont have T4 unlocked, but can see it still
Well yeah, when I click it, it just shows my roster
Literally the only thing I can do rn is ascend my dims
And I only have 7 spirits
How much is it to t5?
20 copies
Sheesh

Yeah holy lol
8
10
10
16
20
Yeah I was glad but then it jumped so much for T4 so I guess it evens out


Oh Webb can you test Lucilla in Mez GB stall
Is Lucilla good?
Yes
Yeah Mira thorn and salis with those two?
Splitting my copies is crazy work from this game to like bro what is this update 💀
Are they trying to only get new players or like what
For me it’s this but replace Desira and I think it’d could work well
You could also replace Merlin imo
Yeah I’ll try both
You could variate the backline however but Mezoth Grez front is the main part
I’ll fight some friends

What pet? Awakened pet? @civic rampart
What the HELL is this new update and why can’t i upgrade him??
Or GB?
Ok
You need to retire them it’s a button on the drop down menu on the left
It’s on the main page
When you log on
The main issue tho is that the game still gives you blue heroes
You get 1 copy
And converts half the blue heroes into barrack coins instead of an actual soul 💀
And then the rest turn into materials
Fuck if I know
Because the game is ass
Tryna make it easier for new players
While fking over people who actually will play the game
I ain't even gonna learn the new system I'm just gonna hope for it's removal. An if not then I'm removing myself 💀 genuinely thee worst game update I've ever seen. And I played bo7 release.
So these just collecting dust now?
Read up a bit I explained it
This ^^^^
I just hope that by doing this you don’t need more heros than before for upgrading your heroes
So we retire all these?
Don’t yet do this first
No
You do
Half the blues you summon don't even give u the 1 soul
On the campaign menu bottom left of the bar on the side. Hit that retire all button. That will convert everything to how the new way is
nooo
And you need 70 odd for an ascension 💀
omg
They do though
They literally dont
why they didn't do it automaticaly
I've just summoned 100

My bad ty I was looking at the cart to retire them
The amount of coins I got

Shit is confusing as hell
Removing Merlin was not the move tho lol
So now it’s harder to upgrade a heroes?
Can you screenshot it
It's more "simple" but yeah longer
Shafting the current playerbase and tryna reel in newbies
It was already taking me long to get character to mythic and mythic + but now it’s longer, aw hell nah
Thanks 👍
Exactly. Basically just a massive fk u to every player who's played before but all the people who don't even know how to ascend in general are mfin lucky
Yeah
Is a simple system I'll give them that
Wait how is it worse? It’s just different
But it's so ass. They fixing sh that don't need fixing
💀 half the blues you pull don't even give u a soul
And you need 70+ souls for a m+
I mean r u sure?
Someone could screen record it and report it as a possible bug
💀🙏 am I js being scammed then
I just pulled a ton and got souls everytime it wasn’t a “new” copy
Also I got a bunch of souls from retiring all my saved fodder
Lowkey I made a few thousand Barracks coins summoning 💀
And 20 souls max
To put into perspective I retired heroes for 64 lightbearer souls
Then after summoning 100
I still don't have the 74 I need to ascend
You fucked up
U do this
What's with the new update in Companion? It's harder now to evolve characters for me
Well it didn’t even show up for me when I first logged on
I had to restart
This norm now ?
You’ll get 1 copy of every fodder and green hero yeah
Wow so useful 👏
🤷🏻♂️
flex them
Wym, dont click ascend maybe
There’s a button in heroes at the top that shows all heroes you can ascend at the moment
I cannot access the Temple of Ascension in that case
The one with the green arrow
Literally my reaction
Yeah, I get it now

There was this button on your left drop down
I really do think that they should have put this update only on newer server
Or just not do it at all
Now we need 8 copies for Ascended?
It’s always been 4 copies for m+ to a
Woow im gonna uninstall if i need 8x
Oh you have to press this
I swear they should’ve made this the first thing that pops up when you log on
I dont see that option
You’ll have to relog then
If it still doesn’t you’re either fine or it’s a bug and I can’t help you
Ooo since lilith like adding useless things, they should make it so I can play on any version of the game like minecraft, so I can just go away from this update without making them get rid of it
Or maybe add a quit button, which just closes the app so I don't have to hit the home button
Maybe a brightness setting 🤨 I cba change phones brightness
anyone know what the new code gives yet?
You would think this should be a popup
15 scrolls 5 stargazer and 1k gems
Not a tiny button that can be hidden
Both combined
Im not getting that? Any alternative?
for sure? that's way bigger than classic for some reason
100% that many people will use the wrong retire button
Tbh this feature just for old acc. New acc is hard to get ascend coz really need to get epic than making epic
makes things clean and tidy. I like it
tho as Goober said. the implementation could have been much better with the Retire Heroes tab appeared right at the beginning
Yup, not enough if I'm being honest with this new update
Their 2 that I don't wl anyway 😂
I did
i don't pay attention to companions for a reason, seems like a dumpster fire 99% of the time. sorry for what you're going through.
get 1 copy of Lorsan then switch back to tasi
Thank you!!
did it on Albaz but think u want on the other acc also
belovedhero2025 works for classic too
okay wait so what's the rewards for each one separately?
What’s the reward for classic 
Honestly you'll have it in classic soon enof 😂
nah you can keep that thanks
oh so it's the exact same as classic then, tyty
Vicksin ban him
did they remove unequip all lmao
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Should be good now
anyone knows where do find the redeem codes for companion?
Hey guys, can antandra, cha hae in, and kasio work on the same comp?
spoon is too fast man
They'll be adding it to classic at some point if they don't get rid of it
every time
Spoon the goat
transcendant still isn't here 1.5y later
they don't/won't add everything
Jd the helpful unc
Companions is their dumping ground for terrible ideas they're too afraid to try on Classic
i'm pretty confident it's not gonna happen lol
plz ping me and make me eat my words if i'm ever wrong though, i'll remember you 🫡

As long as we don’t get GG everything is fine 
for your sake i hope you never do
*inb4 you get GG with all 4 cardinal zones + new totems + new stats (haste too now wooooo) + etc*
Don’t give them ideas 
i'm gonna go put it in #companions-suggestions just for you bud
Imagine pet system
But instead of pets
U do it for every hero
That’s GG
i think to date it was probably the single biggest exodus of players we've ever had from one new thing

If you don’t have perk pass gg was basically unplayable
Trueeee tho
idk how to describe in companions terms since idk if you even have artifacts
even summarizing i can't do it justice
but basically you go through a complete rng hellscape to equip the collection with randomly dropped stats, 3 offensive 3 defensive and 1 flex spot (unless you use an item that lets you equip a second flex spot and makes stats way more buffed so it's essentially mandatory for almost every collection)
insanely game defining, just equipping your carries with massive ATK% buffs, IS buffs, energy recovery buffs, etc etc etc
trying to keep it brief so i'll stop there lmao
But with a change like that it's hard to imagine they'd make half the game like that and other half not
Since companions is the "beginners afk arena"
i'm ngl and i don't mean it offensively at all, but i don't think if you asked a single Classic player, they would call Companions "half/the other half" of the game
Most people start there then go classic with their knowledge from comp
somehow more kraken afk arena from my perspective
I mean yeah classic is like 10x bigger and better than comp. But it is still just half the game
interesting
mostly i see people finding out classic exists and being pissed they were "forced" into companions without a choice from the start and feeling cheated/robbed
That was me btw 
ghoulish gallery lol I remember now. So our normal pet system is kinda Temu-version of GG as Peppa said
lol
I feel like comp is so barebones I can’t enjoy playing a game like this
I've had to convince loads of people to leave companions cus it's that much easier the newbies prefer it
they added more collections that powercrept the previous ones so
it's never ending
yeah it's game breaking
Like wippa wucuis Misha Aurelia
They become actual dogshit without the stats from gg
people really thought they could just ignore it for the longest time
and just bricked their accounts
Just got myself a 4 is storm
and then quit kekw
yeah that's really good, i got mine to 3 IS and could recast the last slot but don't wanna now that pippa gets 30 more is from the new feature
people really build both Cover and Mind because both are optimal in different scenarios
just another reason i hate stupid collections
yeah when i saw pets in companions i was like, oh this is just collections repackaged into pets, L
yup
didn't make enough money
is Arcane Lab open yet finally 1.5y later?
No
They got rift before labyrinth
I think the simple barebones style really hurts it
it's so weird. idk i'm very companions averse
There’s nothing to whale for
No rgms to compete
Which means less money overall, which means they gotta milk whatever they can
Honestly I really feel like nc and ts would help out comp a lot
Been waiting for ts for ages 💀
It'd be such a good addition lowkey
Before ts and nc there was campaign pushing
And I got bored
Like after 39
Like at least add misty valley
If all the content is just campaign
You can even make misty an rgm
By seeing how far people can push
#companions-suggestions message
@cosmic junco you clearly don’t see the benefits for new players with that update
Overall solid change
how
Oh yeah, doesn’t benefit me mindset 
Got bugged and half my blues js gave coins after summoning. Only like 60% of them gave me a soul.
And I knew exactly where I was on ascension
Now I need to rework out basically everything to know my next step
Exactly
:v bruh it keeps things clean and tidy. just the implementation is not good from Lilith.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong
I think it's a good idea
Just the way they did it just nahh there's a few things they need to tweak
But the point of my suggestion is "don't fix what's not broken"
It wasn't an issue it was pretty straight forward
This genuinely Lilith forgot moment
I'm like 99% sure there's part of the tutorial which shows u how to ascend
Noobs don't have a problem with ascension they have a problem choosing who to ascend fr
That's the problem they shoulda worked on fr
if they told you who to ascend and everyone had the same people it would be boring no?
Well I'm not saying they should tell you who to ascend
I'm saying that that's the only issue new players have when it comes to ascending
I'd know I've restarted so many times and just guided people and made top guilds with people who've never played the game
The game should advise you to not make legendary heroes and just wait for the extra copies to instantly leg+ cus legendary is such a bottleneck
This update was of no use honestly, let alone they added a hero they shouldn’t have added just bcs of “aesthetics”, they saw upon the votes from 1 month ago which kind of aesthetics the afk arena players like that’s why they added Lucilla
and they made her dependent too, she’s dependent on another useless hero, kinda shady men ngl
so lucilla no good?
i just summoned her from the stargaze lol
The fact thats her skills are dependent of Liberta is not good, I’m not wasting 2k scrolls just to get both and they won’t overperform neither, they are from different factions, it’s not good at all for f2p
thats tru lol. when i first played, i made two legendary rowans😂
😅 trust me bro that happens when I first first started I mainly used fodder heroes cus they were so abundant
Then realised they couldn't go past leg+ 😂
yikes... i just wasted my stargaze..smh. welp lets i will wait for my talene later ..sedge
I was a kid tho so that kinda js happened 😂
haha tru. i just used the ones that looked good to me
Ahah yeah tbh I think that's what majority do, whoever looks the coolest must be the best
Cus that's normally how it is 😂
U should’ve went for talene or frampton , rest not worth and then try to get Ascended for 1 faction, the thing is it’s hard already to farm the scrolls for stargaze, it’s kind of gg anyways
just commit to her now
yeah GG.
you already tested lucilla?
Talene is definitely thee best to gaze, after getting a single mortas copy ofc 😅
im f2p
(cant pull more lol)
gaze 1 copy or Twins or Framton and buy the 1 copy of mortas from arena store
It’s not that, she’s dependent of liberta look her kit, u need to be p2w to get both and I don’t feel like liberta will perform anyways
don't gaze for him
yess bro. talene is the goat.
Eh twins and fram just pop up in my random pulls tbh I had both before I unlocked gazer, so I went mortas
yeah i m hoarding some arena points rn
Arena shop I just buy gazes lmao
- she’s support so where tf u will use her besides campaign and pvp maybe, no dmg in bosses like talene
Honestly such a cheese for forked
Same as thoran 😂
truuue. she the queen of FF. i just pair her with tatsu and brutus lol
The fact that hypogeans and celestials are kinda underperforming even though they only for p2w it’s kinda mindboggling 🤔 atp I just get walker 5 stars and get free carries on bosses
Solid honestly
I running mainly lb on my current save so it's not going so fun
Walker really is a carry honestly
Same with gwenyth
ooh i see. yeah walker is good...i only got two copies of him sadly.
same with mishka...she just hates my guts bro
😂 took me ages to get my mishka copies on my 292 honestly
Walker the same but he just slaps anytime
yeah, walker is good even on 2 copies. he does good in guild boss too
I'd say he's sort of a 1 copy wonder if you have the tanks to keep him from death
i got the ascended sonja the baddie
yesss. she's never let me down man.
same haha
This my s292 (I left for 2 weeks and js got back so I'm behind by far)
yeah man...the progress in first month is crazy fast
Fr, I'm bummed I missed expedition tbh or I'd have 260s or 280s rn
I'm still in best league but didn't get the resources for 2 weeks
ooh expedition will hurt man. you get tons of resources from it
That's 5k a day 14 days 😂
haha yeah 😄
in the last week i had 9999/d lol
i lowered the diamonds for essence
Yeah fr genuinely missed out but life happened 😅 so
I left #2 guild in good hands tho fr they still #2 😂
tru...life is life.
Region is gonna open soon that'll make it even more fun 😂
ooh yeah! that will mess up the rankings lol
We the third server of the region so we won't be to far behind
i used to be top in top 30 in dream realm...now i m pushed to 140 😂
There's a bunch of whales in 290 I believe tho 😬
😂😂 innit tho
there is
I was pushing top 3 in my server for a while then I left for a bit. Now top 200
Yeah their the first server of my region
lol
It'll be fun
but less than 298-305 probably (amount of whales)
You'd think it'd be more at 290 cus that's when dim event started no?
ooh? my server probably have less than 10 big whales ig
So peeps restart then and spend loads for tornado
napolean the biggest haha
tatsu is worth it ngl
oh yeah that might affect the amount
i wasted my diamonds on saitama
Fr
Yeah by quite the amount ngl, apparently 290 has a guild full of whales and a few stragglers
My servers got like 5-10 whales max 😂 there's a bunch of big players but not Whaley
my main server also only has like 5 whales rest are low spender or f2p or quit
Yee
but i am not complaining i couldn't compete if there was more
S83 died out so bad I'm so unhappy 🫤 shalltear was goated
my server chat is always dead lol..many quit
Frr 😂 I'm strictly f2p now there's only so much can do
or moved to get the dimensionals
Yeah that happens fr
that is fr. i was hoping more would quit
i spent like 3.50 for 1 expedition team but besides that i am f2p
i can still get top 30 for regional tho sometimes
Yeah I brought a team for both my accounts and the club frame for .89
i bought the frame
thats good man. i m not even top 100 now
