companions-chat

[timber cipher]

cause there are 5 teams for pve

5 teams for arena pvp

so you kinda cant have enough fabled pets

[dusky forge]

yeah currently i am just hoarding all of my resources and trying to climb in all the areas of the game i can get top 30 in arena and dream realms thanks to my teammate so it's good

[timber cipher]

thats good - thats the better value / slow build up deal

[woeful eagle]

and "free" 60 dew

[timber cipher]

i just hope they dont crack up the release schedule cause the bunny that early was already kinda a bummer for me and doesnt make me personally to happy

[woeful eagle]

yeah i thought we would have one more expedition

[timber cipher]

like as a pet its great

but for the future of pet-powercreep its tough

cause atm our solutions already feel like pet roulette

y0m was sometimes struggling to replicate my a5 pega ones

now im struggling to replicate his better bunny one

[maiden hare]

wasn't it the same time as pegasus?

[woeful eagle]

bunny has def carried me in faction towers and campaign recently

and it's insane with a stall team on the ice arena map

[maiden hare]

26/6 was Celestwing
29/9 was pegasus
28/1 was bunny release

so everything seems "fine"

end april/start may we get a new one

[timber cipher]

kinda but celestwing is companions only

pegasus and snickerfang were dual releases

and my hope was that bunny / easter fit together and they'd chill

[maiden hare]

nah we will get them as soon as possible and that will be every ~3 months

[timber cipher]

wonder why classic didnt get cw then lmao

[maiden hare]

CW was beta test

to see how we react etc.

[timber cipher]

fair - he has higher dps than pega tho

but his skills being like dodgeable is a toughy

like in my head classic had to catchup with cw before we get the next pet

[maiden hare]

but getting aw. pets every 6 month would be much better for everyone imo

[maiden hare]

classic already have CW but non awakened

like normal pet and it's white instead of purple

[timber cipher]

yea cause atm at best f2ps reach mythic/a0

and considering how much value lies in some of their ascensions

[timber cipher]

lmao true we only got a recolour with "sparkles"

[maiden hare]

yup

[maiden hare]

yeah they need to make them work at A1* max and do the A2 -> A5 just some dps/quality changes or release the pets ever 6 months

or even like 4,5 months would be much better than 3

but let's see when we get the next one, just checked again and bunny was 4 months apart from pegasus, so 1 month more than pegasus to CW

maybe they will up that again 🙏

[woeful eagle]

wonder what the design will be for the next one

[timber cipher]

what a pain of a fight

[woeful eagle]

maybe an awakened rock that's a tank

[maiden hare]

https://tenor.com/view/shrock-shrek-rock-apollo-the-bird-apollo-gif-8859481699491380438

[woeful eagle]

lilith should hire me i have good ideas

[ebon sand]

yeah, I used it at 3 at first but nothing could beat 2

wasted an hour trying SJW on this

[timber cipher]

wasnt sure if i would be able to beat it cause my flora didnt spike as high as yours did - a3 defense shred on bunny missing

[timber cipher]

problem is pets are atm unkillable

and the summoned carrots are already distracting enemies a lot - which is quite the quality

[ebon sand]

yeah gz for clearing it, this team was definitely the boss of the stage, everything else is like 1st or 2nd try win

[timber cipher]

crazy pushes from you tho lately you're ontop of your game atm

[ebon sand]

thanks!

dunno if you noticed but Horang joined us in the chapter

[timber cipher]

would be fun to see some people joining up for clears from the big ones

[dusky forge]

who is horang

[timber cipher]

didnt notice ^^

[ebon sand]

a Korean with a crazy box

[dusky forge]

is he one of the 100k guys

[timber cipher]

think he has 2x a5 celestwing and 1x pega?

[timber cipher]

nah thats prob only s7 (idk his name) and s75 (fantasy)

[ebon sand]

Liberation is in my guild but I think he spends most of his playtime on classic

[dusky forge]

yeah i know 1 of them was fantasy but i heard there were others

[timber cipher]

s2 and jazz are the crazy new-gen pushers tho

@tranquil crag @sleek field congrats for pushing up - you seem to do great both

[dusky forge]

yeah i know those 2 as well

so you 9 are the only past 48?

or are the 2 100k people as well

[timber cipher]

zephyr falcon an old god - that was 1st in campaign for a long long time is in ch 48 aswell

[dusky forge]

did he stop playing?

[timber cipher]

kot is ch 48 aswell

[dusky forge]

or why was he an old god

[timber cipher]

he just swapped his bio and said "lets take it slow"

he was 1-2 chapters up on anyone

and did dcrazy clears that were hard to replicate

only has m celestwing as far as im aware

[dusky forge]

how do you even figure out the top players in campaing is it just the campaing formations thing

[timber cipher]

I mean you can always see lowest scores and at some point you overtake 'em and dont see their solutions anymore

but my goal for the longest time was to catchup and overtake zephyr

i talked about it a lot

[dusky forge]

yeah that is what i assumed. They should really add global leaderboards for it tho

[timber cipher]

me glazing him early on

[dusky forge]

bro was just glazing at this point

but that is pretty impressive indeed

[timber cipher]

selennight is atm astra and became a f2p takeover and is helped by crown

ariella unfortunately quit

kasu quit aswell and became skribu takeover f2p

ryan idk
cringeboomer idk aswell

[dusky forge]

ok, i wonder if my region can catch up

[timber cipher]

welp from s210 we have jazz showing his teeth and grinding and grinding

we also have webb who is really huge but not as much of a pusher

and we had many more inbetween who came and went away

like tank is a name for the history

[dusky forge]

is webb the one that is in like 280 and was chapter 40 in like a week?

[timber cipher]

webb is 180 and has prob the most +40s atm

prob also the most cele/hypos with tran

[dusky forge]

how many?

[timber cipher]

am not in his expe so idk you'd have to ask him but im aware of his almost +40 sjw

+40 selene, +40 haelus, almost +40 sjw as far as im aware e.g.

[dusky forge]

oh yeah that is insane especially the t3 haelus

[woeful eagle]

i think he's got t3 framton too

[timber cipher]

t3 haelus, t1 orthros, t2 selene, t1 talene, t4 sjw

[dusky forge]

oh he is not a whale

maybe kraken then

ok but 5 star atalene and maetria is insane

[timber cipher]

he's quite the force

yea as said prob most cele/hypos in the game

[dusky forge]

does he have all dimensionals or is he missing some

[timber cipher]

he doenst have overlord collab

[dusky forge]

oh R.I.P

[woeful eagle]

should just have sjw and later

he's past my server

[dusky forge]

i only have opm tho so he is looking pretty good with those still

[timber cipher]

o for +40 my info is wrong

but quite big

[dusky forge]

that sjw is looking really good i wish i had that

[timber cipher]

his selne has +40 tho

[woeful eagle]

krill had the most +40s i've seen

but they're gone

[timber cipher]

krill had the wokes on 40 yea

[woeful eagle]

and sjw i think

[timber cipher]

o7

[dusky forge]

did he quit?

[timber cipher]

ye

[dusky forge]

sad could have given me the account

[timber cipher]

tank also quit with like t2 heroes

tank44 was og crazy

[ebon sand]

Zeph was quite something, I collab'd with him for a good while and eventually passed him up when he stopped whaling, then I was alone for a while then iperx caught up and we've been partnering since then, good times

[timber cipher]

think fabled pets where the bummer for him

[civic rampart]

Ah yes

The olden days

[timber cipher]

after cw he stopped spending

[timber cipher]

goob you'll still be our main mezoth

[ebon sand]

yeah, probably a mix of that and IRL but he invested so much in his pets that seeing the fabled pets must have hurt a lot

[civic rampart]

I was once the main whale of my server

[timber cipher]

yea he had like crazy t7 / t8 normal pets

[civic rampart]

Believe it or not

[dusky forge]

i believe you mister 2.5k mezoth

[timber cipher]

epi is our database

hmm the sjw one is quite burgerflippy aswell for me maybe complaining helps y0m xD

[ebon sand]

did you see that tapB made a thread on pushing content for a later video or something on the other server?

[civic rampart]

You should give your insights iperx

[timber cipher]

no i have most stuff muted which is non direct cause too many companions servers

the afk'n'chill one from grace?

[dusky forge]

yeah

[timber cipher]

too many servers lmao

[civic rampart]

Lmao

Even I have less than that

[dusky forge]

that is a lot why don't you put them in a folder?

[civic rampart]

1 less but still

[timber cipher]

they're in a folder

[dusky forge]

oh now isee

[timber cipher]

i just opend the folder

[dusky forge]

i didn't notice it at first

[timber cipher]

o complaining did work

[dusky forge]

what complaining worked?

the bunny bug?

[timber cipher]

idk why best pushing guide complain -> 5min later it works

[civic rampart]

[timber cipher]

i was stuck on a sjw flip

[civic rampart]

Fugyeah

[ebon sand]

damn, I thought the rest of the stage would've been cleared in the blink of an eye, my bad

[timber cipher]

honestly i have no good grasp on early game

i did my f2p and cheesed it through with a5 marci +20/+30

basically same as tatsu players do with tatsu

[dusky forge]

for me i had nothing but then i got walker and i have used him ever since

[timber cipher]

that is only what i can refer to what i did on my f2p

pre walker

release

[dusky forge]

but then the opm collab came and i got my second team (tatsumaki and brutus)

[dusky forge]

yeah that is pretty carried by 1 character

although almost everyone is carried by 1 character at the start

[timber cipher]

later on by that

[dusky forge]

that is a more normal one (if didn't start with dimensional event)

[woeful eagle]

i remember stealing your f2p comps when i was behind it

minus the marci

[timber cipher]

my f2p was doing quite fine - but idk am not the person to do everything 2x when there is no benefit

just some people who said my arguments where kinda invalid and too much from a whale pov

which is tbf quite fair to say - i have kinda lost grab on the f2p journey and have little to say except grab every emblem you are able to get

my f2p was kinda just an ego thing anyways to say "im right, i know it better" - but idc at that point anymore - I don't think I need to be right

and seeing all the different comps and the minmaxing that is to do - like for example VanillaLatte doing like really really low score comps as low spender - seeing that is quite nice

but for now I'm mostly speaking from a position where I'm relying on Y0m and the stuff that I find myself

[dusky forge]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-bro-how-bro-felt-gif-8015564281503585223

[lusty plank]

So you retired the f2p?

[timber cipher]

Yea like 3-4 days ago i stopped

I don't really want to bother with it anymore, got too many other things in life and stopped being active on my main

[lusty plank]

Yeah fair enough. I bet it was just burning important time anyways

You got to experience the f2p life for close to a year I mean

The progress is just slow af, nothing more to it

Also idk if Vanilla is THAT low of a spender, I remember Skribu saying they had a lvl 90 thingy in temporal rift

Unless rift stuff didn’t cost much idk

[civic rampart]

The backline hates me in Overwatch

[foggy cape]

Are there any active Codes???

[sleek field]

100m less👀

[timber cipher]

the frampton merlin

witchcraft

[sleek field]

Haha no this time it was 4 team framton

[foggy cape]

Are there any active Codes???

[sleek field]

It was a hard nut to cracked ngl

[timber cipher]

Still very nice - you're on an insane pace

[foggy cape]

Are there any active Codes???

[dusky forge]

there is

there is actually multiple active ones

[timber cipher]

there are many codes and there are many many good codes

i like codes cause the many good codes make me strong

[dusky forge]

yeah but the bad codes get you banned so don't use those kinds of codes

[timber cipher]

the many strong codes will be good for you

[foggy cape]

Just Tell them dumbass

[dusky forge]

nah.

[timber cipher]

i dont know i redeemed them they dont seem to be working twice

[sleek field]

Hopefully Lucilla is going ot help push harder

Still chasing you and Y0M

[timber cipher]

if Luci can steal enemy stats uncapped then shes going to be a banger

[dusky forge]

lucilla should be really good for pushing

[timber cipher]

if she gets a cap then yea rough

[dusky forge]

i just hope she is good at 1 copy since i haven't saved enough : (

[sleek field]

i cant imagine her not having a cap in companions

classic is the land for uncapped things

[timber cipher]

Yea I'll wait for the numbers and im not that prepped only 600 sgs topped up atm

[dusky forge]

600??

[timber cipher]

prob need 2x for a5

[sleek field]

more than me, im at 360

[dusky forge]

i am at 14

[timber cipher]

yea am taking the weekly offers

[sleek field]

dont forget the bundle, you get 6 from copies from it

[timber cipher]

they give a bit

[timber cipher]

if we get another bundle like selene it would be huge

[sleek field]

we will

[timber cipher]

the selene release was god dayum

[timber cipher]

oo then it might be tempting

prob will go down that rabbithole

[sleek field]

did the bundle drop on release day for selene or a few days lateR?

[timber cipher]

was like 16 hours later

[sleek field]

i see

[timber cipher]

she was dropped at like 8-9am patch till 10am

and on daily reset

the bundle came out

[sleek field]

i see

[glossy fiber]

Im at 0 after using my only 10 on twins lol

[timber cipher]

so prob will have to wait for the reset

tbf sg cards are the worst grind for f2p

[dusky forge]

they are

[timber cipher]

i didnt bother with it on my f2p and ended up with mythic lucretia and m+ talene

[glossy fiber]

I wish it was 5k gems aswell like in classic

[dusky forge]

i can't get them from anywhere since i can't buy them from arena store currently because i want to get arthur next currently at 30/60

[glossy fiber]

How on a f2p its impossible to get sg cards for me

[timber cipher]

tbf atm i feel like frampton is the only really crazy crazy cele/hypo

[dusky forge]

arena store, expedition and other event gives them

[glossy fiber]

I have frampton hes my goat ❤️

[sleek field]

yea framton, even at 1 copy does wonders in early game

[glossy fiber]

Should i have got him elite+ instead of getting twins?

[sleek field]

twins are only for DR and guild bosses really

[dusky forge]

but past a certain point they are really annoying to get. Like i can get them from ff but takes a while

[timber cipher]

selene is really good
haelus is very flexible and always good support
audrae/athalia are quite nice but good

Talene/aTalene/Maetria can be great, but are like hit or miss
Flora can be great with stall tools

but aside from frampton every cele/hypo kinda needs setup

[glossy fiber]

Im only chapter 12 and chapter 6 on ff when do i start getting sg cards

[dusky forge]

i think it's around 20 in ff

[karmic hedge]

I guess there's still been no news on a potential new awakened hero?

[timber cipher]

ff climbing, end of chapter rewards, kt rewards

[glossy fiber]

fml 😭

[sleek field]

Nope

[weak blaze]

@maiden hare do you calculate the overall rank of a hero yourself or do you have some kind of script for them or something

im to young for excel ong

[maiden hare]

do you seriously think that I'm calculating that by hand on every change?

everything is automated on that sheet

score/points/multiplier etc.

[weak blaze]

nice

i was just thinking and the fact that 1-2 modes destroying a heros overall ranking really gets on my nerves yk

[maiden hare]

which ones?

[weak blaze]

not really sure if theres anything to do about that tho even if you wanted

[maiden hare]

I already adjusted the multipliers for the "useless" modes

[weak blaze]

no one in specific but if i just see this i kinda get mad for ecample

same with merlin

[maiden hare]

well GH doesn't give much points but they are both pretty useless in DR

[weak blaze]

ik ik

my point is giving them a fake rating in those modes just to boost their overall rating isnt the right move either

idk if thats possible but can you for example set it up in a way that the worst mode of a given hero is just excluded from the calculations?

thats would be a tedious but fair way of setting things up imo

[maiden hare]

I could but that's not the point of the Score

I find their ranks pretty accurate

[weak blaze]

dude

laios and shalltear literally share a rank

are you insane

whats accurate about thatz

[maiden hare]

well one is a beast for bosses another for pve & pvp

[weak blaze]

her being the goat in every other mode far outweights laios overall utility if you ask me

your call is the final call regardless but if you ask me, taking the worst rating out of the equation helps a LOT with the balance of ranks

someone whos bad in campaign almost certainly is too in campaign and same thing goes for DR and GH

so most of the time theyd still feel the drop from being bad in one category of this game eg bossing pve etc without their overall rating being abosultely destroyed

both merlin and shalltear have the same amount of SS as SJW and still arent even top 10

thats just an inaccurate representation imo

[maiden hare]

nah that would do almost nothing for the chart because the worst ranking is GH for a lot and that gives legit 5% of the score
But I'll think about some conditions when a hero has for e.g. 4-5 SS ranks

[weak blaze]

if you need any opinions lmk🫡

free at last

[dusky forge]

congratz

[weak blaze]

ty

[lusty plank]

Literally him

[weak blaze]

fr

[maiden hare]

I'm coming for you but stuck at 46-52 for now because every replay uses si30 crassio

I already made some sub teams for 5-pull

[weak blaze]

im sadly coming for crown now i took a break for a while

[maiden hare]

hard to sub both of them

[dusky forge]

the guide guy is losing to cayan?

[weak blaze]

so see you at 37-36

[sleek field]

damn what a day, just cleared 48-44 too, pushed from 48-32 all the way to 48-48

[dusky forge]

cayan must be the real guide guy

[weak blaze]

the p2w guide guy is losing to goat f2p cayan yes

[maiden hare]

I'm not nolife'ing campaign

[weak blaze]

i literally dont

thats crown

[weak blaze]

gj bro

[sleek field]

Crown is a final boss

[dusky forge]

congratz

i thought iprex and y0m were

[sleek field]

his clears are even lower power than mine

They are too, but Crown is f2p

similar to Vanilla, they are f2p final bosses

[dusky forge]

oh crown is f2p?

[weak blaze]

crown has ego problems so he doesnt level his heros and rawdogs stages with autorunning

[sleek field]

xD

[dusky forge]

so he is like me?

[weak blaze]

crown isnt f2p bro

[sleek field]

oh, i thought he was

[weak blaze]

if you say so

[weak blaze]

hes like 2k in i think

maybe 3 now with the new pets

[dusky forge]

yeah i was about to say crown is not a f2p but a 🐳

[sleek field]

ah i see

[sleek field]

So you are still the only final final boss of f2p

[weak blaze]

im the only f2p around here

yes

i dont know anyone else thats f2p

[dusky forge]

are you 100% f2p?

[weak blaze]

no

[dusky forge]

scammer

[weak blaze]

12$ in

[sleek field]

What about Vanilla?

[weak blaze]

shame on me

[weak blaze]

she cant be f2p i think b

[dusky forge]

yikes that's like 2-3x mine

[weak blaze]

but shes doing some crazy dolphin stuff

[sleek field]

Her Daimon clears

[weak blaze]

si30 daimon even

[dusky forge]

no wait it's 4x me

[sleek field]

seems to do wonders though haha

[dusky forge]

daimon is good?

[sleek field]

In Vanilla's hands hes a god

[dusky forge]

daimon is a man?

2 things i didn't know

[weak blaze]

she plays daimon like subaru hahahaha

[sleek field]

Daimon is a child mummie

[sleek field]

[dusky forge]

yeah i know that it's a child mummie just had no idea that it was a boy

[sleek field]

we can only assume so

[dusky forge]

so daimon just dies?

[weak blaze]

if you ever tried her solutions they are soooo unreliable

[dusky forge]

over and over again and if he tells anyone a big cat appears?

[weak blaze]

every time i copy her its rng hell

[dusky forge]

get better rng i guess

[sleek field]

fighting cele/hypos in campaign is so frustrating

[tranquil jackal]

lore says daimon is shem's son

[dusky forge]

oh

[weak blaze]

who you struggling with maybe i can hellp

[tranquil jackal]

shem and niru were married. niru was a healer who became jaded and delved into necromancy. other soldiers in the army found out and he was to be executed, but he did a ritual on himself that allowed him to return after his execution
daimon died of illness. shem wandered his grave for a while, not eating. niru seemed to visit her and offered a way to bring daimon back. she accepted, and daimon rose again. niru said the only way to protect daimon was to die herself and become graveborn, which she accepted

[weak blaze]

how is your account going i think i never asked about your progress

[tranquil jackal]

c29 in both camp and ff atm. s1 expedition just ended

rc240. working towards asol

it really doesnt seem fair that f2p have no real way of building celepogs though. ~1/4 of heroes will just never be in a playable state

[dusky forge]

i agree i want lucilla but it will take a while for me

[tranquil jackal]

I feel walker shud be on the beginner wl. The need for 3rd carry creeps up fast and gwyn/belinda arent cutting it

[dusky forge]

Walker the GOAT

[weak blaze]

i sadly cant remember which genius at said that it takes 2,5 months as f2p to get an a5 celehypo

might be a skill issue on my part tho after 1,5 years

[dusky forge]

at that point it is (a skill issue)

[tranquil jackal]

Tell that mf to share the good stuff cuz they higher than a kite

[maiden hare]

This (old ranking score formula):

    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(J7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE) * INFO_TierList!$K$10, 0),
    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(K7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE) * INFO_TierList!$K$11, 0),
    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(L7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE) * INFO_TierList!$K$12, 0),
    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(M7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE) * INFO_TierList!$K$13, 0),
    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(N7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE) * INFO_TierList!$K$14, 0),
    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(O7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE) * INFO_TierList!$K$15, 0),
    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(P7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE) * INFO_TierList!$K$16, 0),
    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(Q7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE) * INFO_TierList!$K$17, 0),
    IFERROR(VLOOKUP(R7, INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0)
)

went to this:

=LET(
  pJ, IFERROR(VLOOKUP(TRIM(CLEAN(J3)), INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0),
  pK, IFERROR(VLOOKUP(TRIM(CLEAN(K3)), INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0),
  pL, IFERROR(VLOOKUP(TRIM(CLEAN(L3)), INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0),
  pM, IFERROR(VLOOKUP(TRIM(CLEAN(M3)), INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0),
  pN, IFERROR(VLOOKUP(TRIM(CLEAN(N3)), INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0),
  pO, IFERROR(VLOOKUP(TRIM(CLEAN(O3)), INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0),
  pP, IFERROR(VLOOKUP(TRIM(CLEAN(P3)), INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0),
  pQ, IFERROR(VLOOKUP(TRIM(CLEAN(Q3)), INFO_TierList!$C$10:$D$22, 2, FALSE), 0),

  mJ, INFO_TierList!$K$10,
  mK, INFO_TierList!$K$11,
  mL, INFO_TierList!$K$12,
  mM, INFO_TierList!$K$13,
  mN, INFO_TierList!$K$14,
  mO, INFO_TierList!$K$15,
  mP, INFO_TierList!$K$16,
  mQ, INFO_TierList!$K$17,

  cJ, pJ*mJ,
  cK, pK*mK,
  cL, pL*mL,
  cM, pM*mM,
  cN, pN*mN,
  cO, pO*mO,
  cP, pP*mP,
  cQ, pQ*mQ,

  base, cJ+cK+cL+cM+cN+cO+cP+cQ,

  strongCount, (pJ>=12)+(pK>=12)+(pL>=12)+(pM>=12)+(pN>=12)+(pO>=12)+(pP>=12)+(pQ>=12),

  worstPts, MIN(pJ,pK,pL,pM,pN,pO,pP,pQ),

  worstContrib,
    IF(worstPts=pJ, cJ,
    IF(worstPts=pK, cK,
    IF(worstPts=pL, cL,
    IF(worstPts=pM, cM,
    IF(worstPts=pN, cN,
    IF(worstPts=pO, cO,
    IF(worstPts=pP, cP,
    IF(worstPts=pQ, cQ, 0)))))))),

  worstMult,
    IF(worstPts=pJ, mJ,
    IF(worstPts=pK, mK,
    IF(worstPts=pL, mL,
    IF(worstPts=pM, mM,
    IF(worstPts=pN, mN,
    IF(worstPts=pO, mO,
    IF(worstPts=pP, mP,
    IF(worstPts=pQ, mQ, 0)))))))),

  totalMult, mJ+mK+mL+mM+mN+mO+mP+mQ,

  IF(
    AND(strongCount>=6, worstPts<=2, totalMult-worstMult>0),
    (base - worstContrib) * (totalMult / (totalMult - worstMult)),
    base
  )
)

[weak blaze]

[maiden hare]

hope you are happy with Merlin and shalltear a little bit higher now

I legit wasted 1h of my life to boost the ranking of 3 heroes, Merlin, Shalltear and Framton

[weak blaze]

can you explain to me in normal people words

[weak blaze]

hahahahahha

[dusky forge]

score higher = good

score low = bad

[maiden hare]

If hero have 6+ S ranks and some E/F the worst one gets ignored

[weak blaze]

i geniune had a laugh just now youre the goat sailus, already exited to have a drink with all of you some day

[weak blaze]

that sounds fair

[maiden hare]

so F in GH for merlin, E in GH for Shallter, and F in GH for framton

[weak blaze]

now you dont have to overrate heros bad in 1 mode to give them a fair rating

[maiden hare]

than I re-scale the ranks so they don't get SS

[tranquil jackal]

There's a reason that tier lists was the one guide type I always avoided

[maiden hare]

yeah that's a valid point, but like I said it only works for heroes that are broken in all of the other modes

because I had it without the condidtion before but the whole TierList bumped on +1 rank on everyone

[maiden hare]

absolutely understandable

[weak blaze]

well it will be useful in the longrun

otherwise the tierlist simply favors dps or buffers

healer and tanks just get lowballed

[dusky forge]

is there a tier list specifically for tanks or no

[tranquil jackal]

How many teams does gh become?

[weak blaze]

4

[tranquil jackal]

How much can u yoink from blade?

[dusky forge]

4

[weak blaze]

4

[maiden hare]

look at the Rank now

[weak blaze]

hahahahaha

[dusky forge]

the same amount you can take from blade as the amount of rounds

[weak blaze]

i like what im seeing a lot

[tranquil jackal]

Danke

[maiden hare]

Du bist aber nicht Deutsch oder

[weak blaze]

[dusky forge]

why doesn't raku have a ranking?

[weak blaze]

he could just translate tho

[tranquil jackal]

I just like to say thanks in other languages sometimes. Have no idea what youre saying

[maiden hare]

just asked if you are german

[timber cipher]

racoon slipped through our hands

[maiden hare]

that's for tryhards

[dusky forge]

that makes sense they are hard to catch

[maiden hare]

[dusky forge]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-stealing-gif-19084597

[timber cipher]

tbf i dont find much use for him and its hard for me to tell whether he is goated with some cc

or whether he is absolutely giga useless

cause he can spike but he is kinda capped

[maiden hare]

well he is useful in like 2/3 DR rounds

and in tower

that's it

[dusky forge]

was he good in classic because when i was playing the game like 2-3 years ago i watched a tierlist video and they said to build him

[weak blaze]

for a moment i thought us germans really took over this game

iperx sailus crown bob and I

[timber cipher]

he was goated with mehira and kren

[weak blaze]

that wouldve been a crazy drinking roster

[timber cipher]

but we dont have energy cycling in companions

relics are missing

[maiden hare]

well I feel like companions have a pretty large german community because almost ~40% of the views on the TierList are from germany

[tranquil jackal]

Ldv raku khaz shud be a thing here. Thats not nrg reliant to my knowledge

[maiden hare]

on the reddit post

[dusky forge]

so if there was a rank for him would he be like b rank or something

[weak blaze]

oooo

[tranquil jackal]

But khaz v ezpensive

[dusky forge]

everyone seems to be german

[timber cipher]

tbf ldv khaz as 2 clean up already

[dusky forge]

way too many infact

[timber cipher]

and dont need raku and do better with some energy or tanks

[tranquil jackal]

Raku was thrown in in classic bc those teams would time out cuz deficit was so high

[tranquil jackal]

His sig 30 was dropping 700%+ on all enemies w every auto. Like trish on steroids

[timber cipher]

early testing of ldv and khazard on mythic

from me

obv with heavy supports cause they were mythic

but late r on i did some more budget versions

[dusky forge]

yeah i vividly remember that raku used to ult like crazy and do insane damage

[tranquil jackal]

Nah

Raku ult loses dps

[timber cipher]

his passive aa did a lot

[dusky forge]

well it either buffed or dealt i don't remember

[tranquil jackal]

Was recommended to play him manual with the intent to not ult at all

[timber cipher]

but idk it doesnt feel that impactful in here

[dusky forge]

like i said it was like 3 years ago

[tranquil jackal]

I suspect deficit difference and change to damage formula is why

Ur not getting dps-checked on that round so he's not necessary

[timber cipher]

khazard kinda burns through healing based tanks like orthros

with 60% antiheal

[maiden hare]

the problem with raku is his A5

it's e60

[timber cipher]

like thats mythic against oku / thoran

[tranquil jackal]

wasnt just a healing issue in classic. deficits were so large that you'd time out just bc base enemy HP was too damn high

hell you'd sometimes time out even with raku

[tranquil jackal]

sure, but even if u didnt have it, you'd prefer manual. single ult or double ult, both loses dps

[timber cipher]

yea with just base mythic heroes it was - after ascending them further it became less of a problem

since khazard is prob #1 highest atk hero

[tranquil jackal]

his autos would crit for >1500% damage (literally more than ainz tgoalid) and still had timeout chance cuz deficit was 400+ levels

[dusky forge]

oh wow he has really high base huh

[timber cipher]

and small correction 70% antiheal

[dusky forge]

that sounds op

[tranquil jackal]

rc360 stats of celepogs
atha highest, khaz 2nd

[timber cipher]

is a glasscannon

[tranquil jackal]

red to green gradient

[dusky forge]

that is true but the damage and the antiheal still sounds insane if he is kept alive

[timber cipher]

he outscaled my athalia intrestingly enough

[tranquil jackal]

khaz has high attack but generally shit skill multipliers so dmg isnt as good as u think

[timber cipher]

yea that is true since he has shemira like aoe

[dusky forge]

where did you get these?

[timber cipher]

prob from portrait?

[tranquil jackal]

i think khaz sig gives more atk than hers does

ye portraits

[timber cipher]

portraints are t5 / +40

[dusky forge]

i meant like is there a place that has them all already like in that picture

[timber cipher]

yea portraits you can press on them and see the base stats

[dusky forge]

yeah i know i can view them from there but i meant the doc

[tranquil jackal]

the sig stats are not included within the portrait stats based on my calcs
since khaz and atha are both t5 in this example it seems correct to use these to compare bases

[timber cipher]

maybe bob has his own doc i listed some of them in my doc

yea removed it out of my doc since i didnt update new heroes in it or well idk "pressed hide" on the list

if you want / need some of that data i can public it again

[dusky forge]

why does so many people just have their own doc?

i know like 10 people that have their own

[timber cipher]

min-maxing

[tranquil jackal]

I separated celepogs and dims so I could calc how much more stats those had than 4f

[dusky forge]

and all of them are german and then bob

[timber cipher]

if i spent time and money on a game i should calculate things through no?

[tranquil jackal]

in fairness I was doing this shi b4 companions existed. if anything these guys are late to the party

[dusky forge]

that is true i do that in some games i play just (not the spending part) i just haven't done it in this game

[timber cipher]

ye dims have more stats cause +40

but their bases are close to 4f

[tranquil jackal]

again, the sig stats are not included in portrait stats based on my calcs

so they jsut have higher nat bases

[timber cipher]

did you take the stats and reduce the sigs from those stats for your doc?

thats an intresting thought and better way to grade it - nice

not sure what is meant by haste on boost

[maiden hare]

nvm I should have checked if we even had HASTE on our eq

[timber cipher]

we dont have haste on equip

we are poor

[tranquil jackal]

no. u can just calc what the sig stats say and reverse calc to get "real" base stats
you'll notice those exactly match the portrait bases

[tranquil jackal]

is that meant to say boots

[maiden hare]

yeah but forget it doesn't apply for us

[tranquil jackal]

u could prolly run the same calc for ur own khaz/atha to prove atha has the higher base but khaz gets better atk%

if that's true, then we can reasonably say the portraits represent bases, not including sigs

[timber cipher]

Yea but I mean portrait is considering +40s in terms of % sigs for cele/hypo/dims

while most people will truely only build +30 in 99% of usecases was my point

[tranquil jackal]

well... that we know of. lilith loves to hide things

if we go by the assumption that portraits represent bases, then celepogs have +19%hp/15%atk/15%def on 4f

anyway good talk but i g2g

[timber cipher]

Yea that is true its 18% atk scaling on SI vs 25.5%

gn gn

Sailus is it time to rattle up the community for divine effect on the wokes?

dayum seeing fantasies solution im we'll be very close to seeing t5s

[dusky forge]

8 t4s?

[dusky forge]

15??

[timber cipher]

16 that i counted so far

16/25

and maybe some that we didnt see cause less combat usage

[dusky forge]

oh yeah i didn't notice silas was t4 as well. Even still that is absolutely insane

[timber cipher]

am glad it makes it less lonely up there everyone is kinda needed for the hivemind up top

that is the s7 box

[dusky forge]

that's insane too

[timber cipher]

11/25

[dusky forge]

12

[timber cipher]

and more pets 2x cw max, 2x pega max, 1x bunny max

horangs also on 1 t4 already dayum, big big

[dusky forge]

wait how does fantasy have less power is it because the pets?

[timber cipher]

yea pets

aw pets give so much power score

[dusky forge]

how is there even this many in the game

[timber cipher]

pets or spenders?

[dusky forge]

t4s

[timid briar]

and i always get them all in expedition

[dusky forge]

companions doesn't have that much spenders if we compare to other big games or classic

[timid briar]

and wonder why i lose

[timber cipher]

im still quite far from it - but im not summoning a lot

[dusky forge]

just win next time

[timid briar]

not in my hand

[timber cipher]

yea but companions has less multis to max

[timid briar]

they decide i just follow

[dusky forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-gif-26810165

[timber cipher]

so people are kinda going for what they can get - we dont need furni/engravings and so on

[dusky forge]

i guess

[timid briar]

nah ahahah its like choose be a sheep or get base 1

let you choose

[dusky forge]

it will be a while before i even get a t1

[timid briar]

i"m at 22/25 for t2

[timber cipher]

i dont want to decide in expe anymore - that stuff is tilting tf out of me lmao

i tried and got stabbed twice - learning experience

[timid briar]

i know we let twinko descide this time i think

[dusky forge]

back stabbed or just stabbed

[timber cipher]

i just need 100 more base points

[timid briar]

i stop count that just 1 mmore stabe season in my book

[dusky forge]

i am still in s2 expedition so i don't know about all that

[timid briar]

s3 is the real deal

befor you play in the ez ez map

[timber cipher]

1 time 5 tie ally against us

and 1 time backstabbed from an ally for a thrown spot - cant be mad at them for doing so since the event kinda rewarded you for doing that

[dusky forge]

yeah i heard my guild will be seperated a bit which is sad

[timber cipher]

so 1 time stabbed, 1 time backstabbed

both times little to do against it other than pre-plan differently

[dusky forge]

and you are still alive?

[timber cipher]

and have bufferstates inbetween

[dusky forge]

you must be quite a tank to survive a backstab and a normal stab as well

[timid briar]

you want my number it will look horrible

[timber cipher]

thing is we now got whaletowers e.g. so backstabbing and other things have become harder and people use me as whale block

im just a brickwall sitting in a tower

[dusky forge]

tower?

[timid briar]

yeah

[timber cipher]

yea

[dusky forge]

there is towers?

i guess it changes a lot after s2 huh

[timid briar]

i told you next season is the real deal

now its free stuff

[timber cipher]

yea they kinda roadblock choke spots

[timid briar]

from free to impossible

[dusky forge]

sounds confusing but i will probably figure it out at somepoint

[timber cipher]

good luck getting through if you have to beat whales lmao

[timid briar]

"kraken"

[dusky forge]

i just hope i can keep my one and don't get seperated

[timber cipher]

🐙

[dusky forge]

that's an octopus not a kraken

[timid briar]

you will stay with your guild but not your league

[maiden hare]

I feel they will come out after all of the 1 gen Aw. release

[timber cipher]

people will get lazy and want to move out of leadership - if your a busybee you can easily move with 'em

[maiden hare]

so next year

[dusky forge]

that's good i just want my guild

[timber cipher]

unleash 'em nowwwwwwwwwwww

[maiden hare]

but we need new Awakened hero

it is time

[sleek field]

just die already

[dusky forge]

i will probably try leading s3 but i will have to see if i have the time for it

[maiden hare]

when was brutus

like may?

[timber cipher]

may ish yea

[timid briar]

yeah this bug

[dusky forge]

i want lightbearer one

[timid briar]

don't

[dusky forge]

why not

[maiden hare]

Awakened: Belinda/Shemira/Thane/Baden I'll take anyone just release them

[maiden hare]

@vale abyss 👀

[timid briar]

do yo know everyone from 3/4 reagion above and under

if the answer is no don't

if its yeah you can try

[maiden hare]

and I feel they are wasting money not releasing them faster tbh

[timber cipher]

@vale abyss are we allowed to gain some Lightbearer/Graveborn wokes

and most importantly divinity effects on wokes - cause damn it hurts that aSolise is almost unusable for me

[dusky forge]

does the league player count change from 160?

[timid briar]

because s3 is no more fighting and fun is diplomatic and that it

[maiden hare]

a lot of new whales would but much more Summon scrolls if they add LB/GB awakened

[timid briar]

nope

you just gonna get match with other region

[dusky forge]

hmm. Sounds interesting

[timid briar]

yeah so exemple s252 will prob be with s287 oand other that finish their s2

stuff like this

[dusky forge]

ohh

[maiden hare]

is expedition also gated by Dims releases or no?

[timid briar]

yup

[timber cipher]

can only try to ask 'em

[timid briar]

so for exemple region with overloard will get all the region with the collab

[dusky forge]

yeah i agree that is a major bug

[timber cipher]

problem is

bug-report is the only channel

where they feedback support

so everything else kinda goes into the bin

[dusky forge]

ohh

[timber cipher]

#companions-suggestions #classic-suggestions is just like

https://klipy.com/gifs/printer-shredder

[timid briar]

the classic one work

[dusky forge]

yeah that is true they haven't added any of them yet

[timid briar]

more than the companion

[timber cipher]

tbf bearr did 2x rounds with the dev

and 2 times it did add some things that we wanted

[timid briar]

bearr the goat

[timber cipher]

sure expe didnt get better and only got worse

but what can we do xD

[dusky forge]

we just need to beg more

[timber cipher]

atleast they lowerd gatetimers - but they need to fix that shit completly

[dusky forge]

https://tenor.com/view/please-devs-i-need-this-please-speed-i-need-this-please-i-need-this-gif-17053141339052398635

[timber cipher]

TF

reddit

[dusky forge]

What even is that? A ban?

[timber cipher]

ip-ban ig?

[maiden hare]

beginner

[timber cipher]

[dusky forge]

what were you even doing to get banned?

[civic rampart]

Lmao

[maiden hare]

nothing

[maiden hare]

just happened

[dusky forge]

like isn't it like really hard to get banned on reddit of all places

[maiden hare]

reddit it probably the easiest platform to get perma banned

[dusky forge]

or was is subreddit ban

[maiden hare]

no it's a global reddit ban, they think I'm a bot

[timber cipher]

sailus-🤖

[maiden hare]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-man-hand-gestures-animation-cartoon-gif-17810067

me rn

[dusky forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hit-me-baby-one-more-time-robots-2005-fender-dancing-gif-6962588416191427531

[dusky forge]

sailus fighting the other robots for the unban

[timber cipher]

welp i applied for them to remove my ban - thanks german telekom

and thanks reddit

[maiden hare]

well good that shodee can post for me for now but I don't see me getting unbanned anytime soon

[maiden hare]

you will get an automated reply in 2-3h that they can't do anything

[timber cipher]

not sure why I got an ip-ban with my private address lmao

[timber cipher]

[dusky forge]

they probably flagged it as suspicious activity

[timber cipher]

gotta call the telekom and ask for a new ipv6 adress then

[dusky forge]

wouldn't a vpn work

[timber cipher]

a vpn would work but I'd rather get a new ip - since there is not much running in my private network

am not running a big server thingy here - like just some small smart home tech

[maiden hare]

you don't have a fritzbox?

[timber cipher]

not sure whether rebooting it will give me a clean adress

maybe my area-subnetpool is flagged

[dusky forge]

well nice chatting you yall but i have to go sleep

[timber cipher]

like yea i could get a new address

but its area based

so if the whole pool is "corrupt/flagged/banned"

then i want a fresh ip pool

if that makes sense

[maiden hare]

oh yeah understandable

or just browse reddit with TOR for now

[timber cipher]

yea i can use vpn for now

but damn weird

wait

even going incognito

works

wth

xD

[maiden hare]

just reddit things

[timber cipher]

that is not network related

that is bs

so my acc is flagged

[glossy fiber]

Tragic

[cloud wing]

My account corrupted and i lost all my data

[glossy fiber]

More tragic

[timber cipher]

poor meta

[tranquil jackal]

U no backup?

[cloud wing]

[tranquil jackal]

No email or nothing? U didnt link when doing the voting event?

[glossy fiber]

Yo whats the best wish beast to go for

My lineup is mishka talene frampton lyca and nevanthi if that matters

[maiden hare]

1000M

[glossy fiber]

^

[maiden hare]

just did T1 pippa, so single copies does count into that score

[maiden hare]

if you don't have 500+ leafs don't summon for anything

[glossy fiber]

How do i get more and which one should i go for first once i hit 500

[maiden hare]

^

[glossy fiber]

^

[glossy fiber]

edited in 4 words incase the message wasnt clear already :/

“Once i hit 500”

[maiden hare]

just stack leafs and ask when you get to 500, it takes a long time and probably something new will come out before you reach that

[glossy fiber]

Im going to circle back to the first half of that question, how do i get more

[maiden hare]

you don't

Expedition is all you get

or $$$

we don't have any other income of leafs expect expedition

[maiden hare]

if you spend, every Wednesday after reset you get a $10 and $5 leafs pop-up, that's the best you can buy for leafs

[woeful eagle]

500 diamonds in shop lol

[maiden hare]

that's 3 scrolls per week, new awakened pets come around ~4 months, so that's like 1,5 copy

and as a new player you have other things you need to buy in the shop

sure you can buy that but if you look at it that way, CW needs 36 copies, Pegasus 27 but more like 45 and bunny seems to be 45+

that 1,5 copy won't do shit

[maiden hare]

-# that's from new player perspective ofc, in late/early game you should buy the leafs

[woeful eagle]

yeah it wasn't a serious suggestion

[weak blaze]

You changed old friend

I feel like you’re less unc lately

Did you break up with your girl or maybe had something traumatizing happen

[tranquil jackal]

when is lorsan coming to wishlist smh my head

[woeful eagle]

3 days or so

[copper atlas]

Tomorrow, should I pull for A1 Trishea and stop or go for more?

[pine sable]

t2 heroes

[stray thunder]

ooh..yeah gotta stick to the vpn i suppose

[tulip spruce]

whats the estimate on when server 307 is out

[dusky forge]

Probably next reset (if I remember correctly)

[tulip spruce]

sorry but when is that?

[dusky forge]

Around 17 hours

[placid stump]

Tell me that I'm not the only that hate when this happen 🙏 (when you found an allies but he dosen’t grind the arena)

[dusky forge]

Pretty normal that's why I keep the same teammate every week

[placid stump]

That what I try but sometimes i can’t choose the same person cause we choose the same thing

[dusky forge]

Just wait for the teammate before you choose one or agree on who takes which one (like for example if one of you always wants snow then that person always picks it)

[copper atlas]

Should I gaze twins first

or mortas first

🤔

or just wait lucilla

for the guaranteed x10

[dusky forge]

Either wait for lucilla or twins

[copper atlas]

oke thank 🙏

[sleek field]

Lucilla

[copper atlas]

hope she carries me

[sleek field]

Im sure she will

[rain rapids]

Yall like this gme more or idle heroes

[brave plaza]

this one, in IH there is no way of going back if you invest in some hero, cores, etc.

[timid briar]

[vale abyss]

I love Solise! but i get what you mean

I am sure there's more awk in the pipeline.... ( am now gonna go check the companions pipeline hehe)

[vale abyss]

lol this is out of my pwoers for now but yeah AShemira is so needed

[timid briar]

i hope we get at least the 2 last aw this year

[timber cipher]

aShemira would be the biggest lovebomb that we could get - Graveborns are hugeely underperforming with the big nerfs on Thoran and Grezhul who are uncapped in classic

[timid briar]

asking for 3 sound like never gonna happen

[vale abyss]

also welcome back iperx!

[timber cipher]

Thanks! Am doing a bit better - still not perfect - but taking care of my health related stuff :>

[vale abyss]

yeah I agree Thoran is really useless lol which is a shame

[timid briar]

nah

not the same used

that diff

[vale abyss]

please do take care^^ we are always here when you wanna chat hehe

[vale abyss]

you mean he si used in diff scenarios?

[timber cipher]

Grezhul Twins interaction unfortunately doesnt do much here either buuut yea Y0m and I are getting to a point where campaign is hell.

And people are already quite unable to follow us

[timid briar]

(its been month that we can't follow)

[vale abyss]

which stage are you guys at (probably 5th time I ask you sorry)]

[timber cipher]

51-32 I believe

[timid briar]

mortal me in 47

[vale abyss]

amazing

[timber cipher]

after I came back and collabed with y0m we were able to break through 51-8 he was on a hiatus for that one

[vale abyss]

power couple vibes

shall i say power duo lol

[timber cipher]

we also see success with s2 and sirjazz collabing together

but they're in 48

[timid briar]

yeah we use him moslty for his life and "poison" that reduce life of 1 enemy not like in classic as a carry

[timid briar]

i help s2 for FF

[timber cipher]

Really really much appreciated - think the get togethers with the devs were quite productive and am happy for what you do - so sorry to bother you directly with our stuff and the pings.

But really doesn't feel like our suggestions arent much seen otherwise.

[vale abyss]

no ofc! this is why I am here in the first place

I said that in the other channel but I am hoping to bring back Q&A w devs on monthly basis

starting from march, so I will open submissions second half of Feb!

I dont mind pings also, otherwise id probably lose some important info

[dusky forge]

in the Q&A will the suggestions that got 20 votes in #companions-suggestions be talked about?

[timber cipher]

That would be nice - would bring us a bit more transparency and maybe go along with the idea of a "public roadmap"

'cause a lot of people are always wondering what is done and being worked on, since there are some that want to see arcane labyrinth, others that want like abyssial expedition back, others that kinda want to see buffs for underperforming heroes e.g.

[vale abyss]

i think arcane lab was addressed in the last q&a

but yeah imma try my best to have some quesitons answered every month

slowy we should be able to exhaust the most asked ones

[timid briar]

the only stuff we got was

(but that look like classic stuff)

[timber cipher]

and as you know people are always wondering about "next collab" - so maybe there could be teaser placed here and there that goes along with it

but overall since we do have for whales the aTalene / Maetria wokes

we kinda need something for the f2ps with lightbearer/graveborns - 'cause they're kinda frustrated

and personally yea y0m and me are a bit sad that we cannot really use aSolise xD

[timid briar]

if you ask me classic people send me this

and told me maybe its for you too

[timber cipher]

Thanks for letting us know tho! If ya ever need some specific feedback feel free to ask me or if you don't get hold of me @ebon sand - since he's pretty much in very similiar situations and thinking very close to how I think.

[vale abyss]

next collab info is way too soon ahah
but the rest is valid

[timber cipher]

no worries I personally do not need that as much - cause I've had my fill with the new dims and the bunny already - building the bunny is a lot to do already xD

I was hoping to clench a 2nd pegasus inbetween cause top whales/krakens have 4-5 maxed pets already.

But o well I'm on a good whale track

[timid briar]

i have seen new server guy with 2 max pet (less then 40 day in)

[timber cipher]

👀

[timid briar]

@dusky forge are you in exepedition with one of those guy ?

[dusky forge]

like people who have 2 max pets?

[timid briar]

yeah

in S253 +

[dusky forge]

yeah my teammate has 2 i think or it might be close to 3 now and there is 1 other guy that has 2+ in my server

no wait my teammate only has a 2 star and a0

[timid briar]

[vale abyss]

wow i am so jealous lol
how are you finding bunny?

[timid briar]

buggy

[vale abyss]

still??

they said with new patch eveyrthing gonna be solved

[timid briar]

i didn't try it yet but seen screen yesterday with battle lost with people a live

[timber cipher]

Hmm a it was big clunky/buggy yea.

But bugs aside - the pocket cc is really great to have. Since there is less energy regeneration in companions - which makes in general cc heroes quite "weak" in case of survivability.

Which is for the bunny not needed.

[vale abyss]

yes it hink same issue yom shared last week

hopefully its gone tomorrow ._.

[copper atlas]

I should just get Trishea to A1 this next Destiny right? Still new player and only f2p

[timid briar]

a5

but slow build her

[timber cipher]

Release in general was too quick for me and a lot of others 'cause the pace of fabled pets is really hard to keep up with even as a spender I must say.

'cause the new Bunny bundle isn't cheap either.

So most low-spenders will prob sit on getting the weekly wish leaf special deal and thats it.

[copper atlas]

Noted ty!

[dusky forge]

probably don' t summon for her in it but it's not the worst idea

[copper atlas]

really?

i just keep saving? 😭

[dusky forge]

i mean you get her eventually with normals

but dimensional spirits you can only get in destiny

[timber cipher]

Kinda thought imo - that classic had to get celestwing and catch up with us before the next dual fabled pet release.

and bunny + easter would fit good

[timid briar]

if you are omega early go for it show your account in #companions-questions

[dusky forge]

isn't lineup help better

since there is no cd there

[timid briar]

ofr a screen

[vale abyss]

(about to leave the office bot tomorrow will have mroe time to chat）

[timid briar]

see you

[dusky forge]

cya

[timid briar]

true but as the last dim wass just out maybe get a good boost early with her can give you way more resssourse for next dim

[silent ravine]

We already have celestwing lite

[dusky forge]

yeah that is why i said it's not the worst idea to summon for her

[timber cipher]

Cya thanks for the updates Bearr

[timid briar]

that why i ask for the account see what stage is it at

[silent ravine]

Shit if we do get celestwing that just means send pepega

Since as proven here pepega is god

[timber cipher]

tbf celestwing outspikes pepega

if you can clump 5 enemies together celestwing is better in terms of raw dps and crit res reduce / crit amp for the team and burst damage

but pepga is more flexible and has way more utility and with similar damage that cant be dodged just - he just fits more nieches and yea being undodgeable is kinda good

[silent ravine]

I mean celestwing is literally just Aurelius but slightly better

And we have pet resonance so releasing celestwing is just an excuse to dump pony some more

[timber cipher]

I guess, have no clue how the pet system works and if you can resonate anything to your highest pony anyways sure.

Just was surprised to see that we got our 3rd fabled pet already

[maiden hare]

After Kelthur disappears from DS

[silent ravine]

You can reso up unto level 18

Which unlocks all the relevant skills

Level 21 and 24 are dps buffs usually and level 27 is a game mode related buff, past that is for whales

27 is achievable if ur a dolphin and buy out weekly bundles and takes around 400

[timber cipher]

Damn so pretty similar to companions - aside from the topout at 36 which is prob much more expensive.

[silent ravine]

I think Bob or someone did the math

To fully max a single woke pet f2p it takes a year and a half

For like 1 round damage boost 😭

[timber cipher]

holy that was one ult:

[sleek field]

Poof, all the copies are gone

Thats a nasty team lol, flora + wukong and lyca

[timber cipher]

Yea fights are a bit ridiculous and nasty on our end lmao

[sleek field]

Have you tried, Saitama brutus frontline?

[timber cipher]

tried the saitama/cha/sjw

didnt try with brutus yet but those two are my lead options

considering tatsu gets a kill on either lyca or oku a lot of the times she kinda seemed best - and maybe adjust a bit from here.

since sjw/cha kinda have the we dont get to cast here problem

[sleek field]

Or this

[timber cipher]

cause oku taunt is problematic for them

[sleek field]

Saitama lyca frontline

To keep the damage amp alive

[timber cipher]

"bonk"

[sleek field]

Ah riht, forgot wukong

[timber cipher]

the dmg link from lorsan helps a lot

cc from bunny aswell

[sleek field]

Oh do use bunny

Im 4 stages away from ch49

[timber cipher]

[sleek field]

Pushed half a chapter in a weekend

[timber cipher]

doesnt look to good on our end unfortunately

[sleek field]

What if you changed out haelus for brutus. Brutus 1, Saitama 2, Salaki 3, Lyca 4, Tatsu 5

With bunny

[timber cipher]

hmm if we dont use merlin the bonk targets tatsu

[sleek field]

Mhm

If you use atalene at 2, then it shouldnt bonk on tatsu

She moves forward, drawing away from tatsu so she is no longer in a populated area

[timber cipher]

that is the sjw setup btw

[timber cipher]

aTalene flora did better on overall damage spread (stall)

but couldnt kill at all

[sleek field]

Shame im not at 51-32 yet

[timber cipher]

damn i got a highroll and a kill

[sleek field]

Banking on Lucilla to help me push more

[timber cipher]

that is rough for y0m tho

think before i did it with bunny

[sleek field]

Yea need high burst to kill the wukong and bring flora down asap

[timber cipher]

yea even on higher ends that looks impossible with oku shield/healing

[sleek field]

Still believe cc is the way on this one

[timber cipher]

on wukongs in generally liked using marci but with flora and lyca it makes it so much more tricky

lorsan front merlin back is maybe the way 2 ults in and not highrolls sometimes i get a kill in first ult

[sleek field]

Yea, its just the lyca is needed for the speed

[silent ravine]

Ye saitama doesn’t have true damage negation like alna

If he does I think u would have killed

[timber cipher]

we rarely are able to split our lyca from frampton tho so rare w here that might lead to further progress

[sleek field]

Really?

I rarely use lyca with framton

[timber cipher]

ye our frampton comp uses lyca instead of aSolise usally:

[silent ravine]

Is skreg 30 like nerfed here or something why does no one have it

[sleek field]

I use Solice more often with framton than lyca

[silent ravine]

Oh they swapped his si40 30 and 20 around

[sleek field]

I have SI30 skreg 🤓

[timber cipher]

its not bad but like not completly needed here

its just emblems are in general rough xD

[sleek field]

This is my base Framtom team, and add more heroes if needed

[timber cipher]

im coming closer

[timber cipher]

we generally use our merlin usally ina selene/leonardo setup with usally also audrae/athalia/tatsu

and arthur

this lyca lorsan is basically the tweaked versions since we freed lyca

[sleek field]

Thats my leo team

[timber cipher]

makes sense mira/leo both profit a lot from khazard

tho y0m hasnt khazard yet, a bit broken hearted for me to not spam more of that perma cc

is always fun to see

[sleek field]

Often put in owl instead of pegasus

Since mira does good dmg

[timber cipher]

yea owl increases casting consistency with haste

tbf this comp is 713m power level

660-670 avg for the others

and the 2nd is on 713

[sleek field]

Here I am using 3 or 4 awakened pets 💀

I only use owl and ice pet, the others just dont survive

Maybe if my rc level was a bit higher

[timber cipher]

it doesnt look great for me beating that stage ngl - prob will retry with sjw setup

[sleek field]

Maybe lucilla tomorrow

[timber cipher]

maybe but even with the 6 extra copies I think I only have enough for a3 if I don't get really lucky star gazing

and even if I would be able to beat it with like Maetria/Lucilla/Khazard/Zolrath/Mehira - using 4 woke pets - I kinda dont want to lose out on y0m and figure out a dual way.

I'm not too much in a hurry considering atm the end is 61-60

[sleek field]

I see, understandable yea

Ill probably pause at 48-60 too and wait for S2 to catch up

[maiden hare]

lucilla overview, feel free to take a look
https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/comments/1r0c2lx/hero_overview_lucilla_by_sailus_shodee/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1

[weak blaze]

this looks like firma

[maiden hare]

?

[weak blaze]

@pine sable

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

[sleek field]

💪

[maiden hare]

[maiden hare]

[tulip spruce]

will server 307 come out this reset?

[timber cipher]

her SI+20 and her 5* Upgrade are Liberta related even in comp?

[maiden hare]

that speaks for itself what the next celestial will be

so don't go wild spending all of your SGs

[timber cipher]

kinda wanna wait and see how Liberta turns out before pulling then

yep

[maiden hare]

well I'm almost at 2k so will probably go for both but I'll wait and see how she does 1st too

[sleek field]

Guess they indeed keep it in for the future release

[woeful eagle]

doubt they release 2 celehypo back to back

[timber cipher]

we did get hypo into hypo tho

which is weird

[silent ravine]

I mean if there’s dialogue

Mentioning a nice celestial

[timber cipher]

frampton -> lucilla

so lets see how hard liberta gets capped and decide from there

[silent ravine]

Then it’s liberta

[timber cipher]

I mean if its already in luci abiliies I'm wondering

but it still breaks my heart that they didnt gave us alna on alna voyage

[silent ravine]

They can’t even nerf alna or she’s useless

Her entire kit is immunity cus the rest of it SUCKS

[timber cipher]

considering we have si 40 sjw on +30
cha e.g.

I don't even think alna is that gamebreaking

we're missing good tanks a lot so she would just be an enabler

[silent ravine]

it’s more so alna enables future good heroes

So nerfing alna is a easy solution

[timber cipher]

idk - but Bearr kinda said that we're working on monthlies with the devs and more transparency

so hopefully we'll finally get to know the roadmap better

[silent ravine]

Also liberta is lowkey doomed alr

12.5% chance to be usable

[timber cipher]

considering every broken classic hero got hard nerfed, yep

[silent ravine]

Liberta isn’t even good anymore that’s the funny thing

[brave plaza]

Who to SI30 next? Athalia, Arthur or Chicken?

[silent ravine]

He’s a charm slave

Cuz his pvp team is stall

[timber cipher]

doesnt he still deal trillions of dmg in pve?