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These 2 were so clean I wanted to share them
A Hendrick and a Grezhul team cleanly dispatched
The Seirus one was much more messy but Tatsu is such a brute, 1.6B
could you give me your heroes i can give you a rare arden
Nah I'll keep my heroes, thank you
pretty please
Be a good Lilith customer and in a year+ you'll be there as well 
but i am f2p
In that case you won’t see half the heros he used in this lifetime
that is true that is why i was asking nicely to take his heroes
Don’t be mr greedy
i am not greedy i asked very politely i said ¨pretty please¨
Y0M is literally not even exaggerating our furthest player in the game
He is no. 1 rn with iperx
i thought iperx was
1000s of dollars spent and hours grinded
They work together in solving campaign
oh that is why
are they teamed up in it
oh yeah just noticed it
can you play on the same account on different servers or does it have to be a different account also
No you can have different accounts on different servers
but can i have 1 account and play on 2 servers simuntaniously (different devices)
no
You can do classic and companions separately at the same time
im stuck on an rng battle atm for the 2nd fight of 50-52-2 and prob later 50-52-4 
welp everything else seems straight forward
Hey I need your opinion on a team
so i can't play an account with same email on 2 teams
Crown is a fucking moron an doesn’t even understand the question
can take a glance
You can if they are not both classic or both companions
so if i have 2 companions account same email 2 different servers and 2 different servers i can't play
You see this comp, you have anything available but obviously your goal is to min max the solution
What do you see that you can counter here and what are you trying first
you must defeat 5 teams to progress that is what it says
I see this comp and I have no clue what I would use that actually counters this comp and not just brute forces it with op heros
Essentially you need a completely separate account if you wanted to play two army the same time
ok, thank you
So two emails I guess or whatever you link your account to
oke
i see salaki being a pain in the butt
i see skregg being tanky af and a leftover
i see eiron disrupting 1 and 3
i see anthandra/Brutus kinda bursting any "real frontliners"
sooo the best bet is to have something that can target the salaki without being disrupted by skreg/anthandra/eironn
it'd be a good gwyneth if not for that
Literally the same thought I had too at first
what you could try is like aBrutus Skreg Salaki Kren Tatsu
or prob a huge chunk of units with sjw
hoping for tatsu to cast ult twice and rain hell upon them
aside from that against salaki its tough man - salaki is something y0m and me struggle a lot with
So on this comp specifically u would also just use whatever heavy hitters you have left
kinda
reduce after beat
if that is the showstopper
I wouldn’t know how to counter him either
Does athalia do the trick?
A5 ofc
Yea
we sometimes use our merlin + arthur/rowan/cha + selene + leonardo + audrae/athalia/haelus
cycle comp for such bs if we see an angle
sometimes we pray for sjw or let pega loose
but salaki is usally a hypo/celestial level threat on enemy team
What is the first thing you were talking about?
Cc is kinda rough on this comp
^ was refering to that
hello goob
What is this?
Salaki and skregg being immune to cc makes this really difficult
yee leonardo is the only semi-reliable cc against skreg
a setup?
With a5 invest right? My mate plans to build him out but I don’t think I’ll benefit from that
Didn’t see Selene with haelus
interchangeable units
sometimes athalia to stop nara/eironn or some other annoying disrupter/charger stuff
Funny enough I’ve been trying a cc comp myself lately
Is the haste more beneficial than the freeze ? Obviously freeze is more rng
Some iteration of Selene + khaz
As I found generally Selene tends to preform better with ice crown
in what case haste (owl/ice crown)? - at first i kept using a lot of ice crown while y0m was already locked with owl
But it depends on crit rate i guess
owl is just generally better if you need multiple cycles and more than one heavy cc
my enemies tank sometimes 3-4b dmg
Yeah my Selene deletes everything if she ults for me
so ice crown is in most cases less value
i used rowan once intrestingly enough we used him plenty more on ch 50 (but instead of arthur)
kept merlin as 2nd frontliner
and then like w/e floats with selene and leonardo
Sorry what does w/e mean
but its overall a nice setup just y0m hasnt the khazard i think khazard + any type cc be it leo or selene is very good
whatever
Ok
Well Leo is sadly a distant dream for me, Rowan with T1 boots and si30 is simply 90+ dodge that is like Ultra instinct
Great against physical comps
I tried opposing him to athalia and that sometimes works too
only thing to consider here is skregg as high tenacity and kinda ignores a lot of cc
brutus gets out of cc after becoming immune (dropping to 1hp)
salaki is immune to cc
so that stage is kinda a horror for cc
or fight*
Skregg also simply is cc immune in ult
Yh cc won’t work here
Man I was really hoping for a Mezoth skin and frame 
So I’ve just been thinking about what actually could work here
No one likes Mezoth 😞
its not too late time to unite
Do you have a fancy mezoth
We are not getting 900k+ votes
960k+*

Can I see ur mezoth?
I was the original t1 yeah
I wish this was real 
you just need to believe hard enough 
That’s a very nice mezoth
Also have I seen you in the ingame chat during celestial/hypogean war for the first part you were complaining as you were stuck on the celestial team iirc
I was
someone airdrop some mezoth 80085
this reminds me of the time when luceus and I trolled the whole discord that sneaky Awakened Brutus released
I made a pic with upsidedown abrutuss everywhere
kasu spam dmd me yooooooooo ABRUTUS ABRUTUS perma 
it was great 
Once I am done with haelus who should I do next (the ones with the lines are done)
whale and you want something rn thats good?
right now*
if you go for a5, probably twins?
or audrae
Was thinking i wanted to try a zolrath + zapherial comp any thoughts on that
But idk if either would work together well
I think framton, zaph would work better
also idk what zaph does in pvp but I feel like he gets 1 tapped
Also my account is generally pvp focused so which would be the best for that?
Ok
do flora
Also was considering a couple ponies but should I go for one really strong one instead?
zolrath & framton are good in pvp if you go for maetria next
go for a5 then you can do another one if you feel like you need another one
but we will get a new awakened pet in a few days
Ok
Oh maybe I should wait then
But surely it’s not gonna be more game breaking than the pony
The pony always seems to do more than most heroes
probably not but you never know 
Ok what is a good break point for the pony
Currently have one at A
But I haven’t spent money on awakened pets in ages
A1
how do i find the guild id i can't find it i might just be blind tho
Guild?
yes guild id
Under the guild logo
my own
You find it under the guild logo
oh ok so i was indeed just blind

This is mine
Didnt Bear say we dont?
but patch notes said we will
Do you know who bear is

Clearly he doesn’t
with the conversation earlier on counter snicker rabbit, is there any leaks about him for companions?
i was informed yesterday about who she was
the 2 part says you get leaves during event
those fabled beats are heavily p2w, even if they give some for free it won't get you very far
@maiden hare why did you try to make 2 suggestions so fast

Hey everyone, I reached out awhile back for feedback and the AFK community team asked me to participate in a feedback interview later today. I'm updating some of my notes with feedback from the community, PLEASE feel free to reach out to me directly. Offer feedback, provide solutions.. anything. I haven't completed my updates yet, so feel free to politely correct me or push me in the right direction if you feel I've missed something.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xSMI7ntxzMj4gIHfXurYnoUaLZPtLbkSh9uP_NwBG_Y/edit?tab=t.0
Reasons why Golden Frontier/Expedition is the fun we asked for but not the fun we wanted. Expedition has turned Companions away from an AFK game and into a diplomacy, sometimes drama filled, mainly time sink of a game. I’m happy for the players who are thriving and loving the diplomacy gameplay...
❤️
do you need more questions or are you just checking if you missed any
I want whatever is on your mind. More questions, push back against what's currently in the document. ANYTHING.
Solutions, ideas ...
should the guestions be related to the game?
I've reached out and haven't received any feedback as to what format this interview will follow, so I'm trying to prepare myself to relay community concerns, positives and negatives.
I mean... lol I can put anything outside of the game at the bottom / if we have time category
ok will check it out
thanks for sharing @maiden hare
it was shared earlier today tho so sailus is a fraud
not like anyone can access the test server 
I didn't see it earlier today so it's news to me
yeah but still

@maiden hare I'm sure you already have a direct line to AFK management/devs, but your feedback would be much appreciated as well.
just like you took the guides from cayan
I put the original document together many months ago, so I have to do some updating and consoliating.
I wish we just got more abyssal expedition
i heard that you were the nikola tesla of afk arena companions community
hey i am just providing information i was told to be true
will take a look later and I sadly don't hold that much power
are you from US?
the questions looked good but can't say, i didn't see buff walker anywhere
Thank you. Interview they asked for was 9pm eastern time zone US today..
i am not from the US no
notes buff Grez
interview? with whom
*Walker
Someone from the AFK community outreach team I guess. I confirmed with AFK support they were true.
"In the eyes of a ranger"
so you are trolling

why would i be trolling by telling you i am not from US
?
I agree
on the part i am trolling, or with me questioning why it is trolling
Both
😂
but i am not from US tho and why do people even think that.
I am not either
then why do you think i am from US?
I don’t
that's not bad, point 2 is a little bit of whining because you can't make it good for all with one timezone, it's like 4am-6am for me so I never ever get to do it too.
Go through the #companions-suggestions channel and pick the ones with the most upvotes for additional stuff, all the things that I have in my head have been already suggested there
and mine (only slightly joking)
Yeah i am same timezone as the in game clock
I can’t ever participate
Most i can do is rally
you didn't answer on why you think i am from the US
Very much agree. AFK is not a game for the U.S. lol .. so I can't bitch much there.
Time zone I can't offer a solution. But the time waiting and doing nothing, has gotten better since Expedition began. So that's moving in the right direction.
we already had some discussions about expedition time zones here but I don't think anyone found something that is good for everyone
Well it’s not great for eu at the current time zone
they would need to make something different instead of that
Yeah, it was on one of their surveys as well. Was a poll I think for like a hour before / after, reset time ... Either way, a majority of players are FAR from my time zone. So I get why I'm worse off in that regard.
I don't even know what timezone benefits from the war hour now, I feel like some part of US? But idk
East Asia?
well depends if you see later hours as better or worse, for EU it's mostly like 4am-7am or something like that
But if it was one hour away from reset I would be able to participate
I could do it if it was 7-8am but It’s not unfortunately
Also I don’t tend to see many us players at least in my region pretty much everyone is European wis a couple Asian and us players
I obviously can’t speak for everyone with this
yeah for most of EU it's too early to do anything
idk about this one I don't have the graphs
Yeah I am uk so it’s 4-5 am for me
feel like it's balanced out on the region players tbh
Yeah as variance will be natural as some regions may have way more us players
Really? I just feel like AFK as a whole is NOT a "western" came. Kids need speed, instant gratification and zoomies. Nothing that AFK offers lol
@summer iron
#1 Open the Arcane Lab.
#2 Open Legends Challenger Arena.
#3 Open hypogean & celestial towers; consider a dimensional tower too.
#4 Let newer servers get older dimensionals.
#5 Add new awakened Library heroes.
#6 Introduce Duras relics for heroes.
#7 Run events like Magician’s Hat / Isles / Sigils more often.
#8 Expedition: make less frequent or rotate with Abyssal; it's too draining for deputies/leaders.
#9 Add a scroll to reroll/add factions on mythic gear (buyable with gold/dust).
#10 Improve trials: adjust enemy level, allied SI, and ascension tier.
#11 Increase Dream Realm rewards, especially for F2P players.
#12 Add global stage leaderboard; make guild rankings regional. Allow saving/copying hunt teams.
#13 Enable cross-server duoing (in-region) for campaign & Dream Realm.
#14 Add gear-type filter for fodder before using enhancement tokens.
#15 Make arena resets more EU-friendly and use Sun/Moon arena or weekly "King of the Hill" point-based mode.
#16 Ban guild ads in WarZone chat; add regional guild-invite channel.
#17 Revamp siege system when multiple leagues attack to reduce RNG.
#18 Add “clear all” and “collect all” to Realm of Shadows; let mines auto-send with queue.
#19 Add more Peaks of Time content.
#20 Let us drag/swap defense teams in arena (why isn’t this a thing yet lol).
2nd part of suggestion:
#21 Make auto battle unlimited.
#22 Increase the Merit crowning rewards during Expedition.
#23 Make the mail window not close instantly and delete the whole message, one just typed, if you accidentally click out of it. 
(pls copy this and keep adding new things)
this was the list @pine sable and others made and copied in the channel before it got upgraded to suggestions with up and downvotes
Beasts are personally my most hated part of the game. They drive me ape shit crazy
Sheeeeeshhh.. Walking into a work meeting but I'll definitely add this. Copy/paste to the bottom and put it as Community Discord Feedback.
omg duras relics.. I've been wondering about that slot for a long time lol
What are they?
I only played classic for like a week when the game came out
why is there so many bots on newer companions servers like the instant you say anything in server chat like 3 bots send you messages (i am just assuming bots since seems like usual bot behavior)
I got DM’d by the same bot multiple times 😂
Back when I started
yeah so you know how annoying they are
Kinda like a signature item but not unique for each character.
@timber cipher if this can help
next week new pet already huh
yeah :/
yeah next banner time
#13 Enable cross-server duoing (in-region) for campaign & Dream Realm.
Did they do this already or no?
No it’s still not possible
gotcha
got walker on an alt account life is good
Finally edged the 2 hero clear with ice pet in the formations history 🙌
Smh. Still no 1 hero clear
Ikr, maybe with the cc pet lol
the fact that 2 hero clear is even possible is kinda crazy lol
at 170+ deficit
I can barely do 5 hero clears
Question, I paid the 5,000 gems in golden frontier but my league is trash and the leader is even more trash full of afks, is it worth changing teams?
its fun to test the limits lol
It is and you shouldn't buy that unless your guild is for sure the strongest and doesn't Change leagues
I know it's fun I just don't have mental capacity nor the heroes for it
It's my first time playing this, that's why I fell for kt :c
I did the same mistake twice (I did it this expedition)
We did in fact not stay in the same league
Idk what how you see it but the fact that you can pull off 2 hero comps tells me you still have long ways to go
In the sense of ch48 is easily in the bag
47-36 does seem like a hard stage
I have 3 friends stuck on it rn
4 including you
first team is Talene + Flora lol
💀
How did you use merlin on 2 of the teams or is that a different character the bottom one because they look identical
That’s Merlin and Leo
You could’ve tried sailus hulk buster comp
Oh, they do look really similar tho
Tatsu saitama Merlin Albedo and anything you need for that specific team
Another newbie question, I'm on chap 23, should I focus my diamonds on stuff from the store or 10x summoning?
Problem was that I had handicapped myself by locking merlin + framton on team 4
Ahaha
Im trying to deepen my skills this chapter
Im Doing 47-4 without Solutions rn
Never had to do that before
Only comp 3 is left where I’m trying a few things out
=compov
=compov
tbh its much more fun without looking whats others have used
Is the bot broken or does it not just like me
And u learn so much more
💯
is anyone around rc 240-360?
Switch cha hae in and talene postion (not sure if works just throwing a idea out there)
@ebon sand that looked satisfying - cha outperforming jinwoo feels nice
is already best - morrow kills talene and prevents talene heal
causing saitama to die earlier - causing to tank less / shared dmg link with sjw
(if swapped)
cha has a weird/nice dash and her ult gives her iframes - and lives there
its just high diff and high rng
Okay
good job, sleep isn't far now (I hope)
and thanks! 
lets hope at worst imma have a look at 50-56 you're blazing through - i feel like i might need a level or two lmao
didnt have a look yet but we might can make selene work against mezoth/wukong
or setup frampton with pippa front facing wukong or smth like that
I'm confident we can find something to clear 1 but it's the amount of grez/shem that scares me the most
and banana healers and whatnot
gonna get me a coke kinda feel like some sugar for the last push
intresting that fantasy took his time to catch up with us tho
maybe he didnt have framfram
lol, that'd be real funny
or he's just like "those 2 mfers are too annoying they can stay ahead for all I care"
You guys really finished ch50 in 1 week
we plunderd our reserves for that
and tbf y0m had great runs and found a better use than i did for frampton
am glad we use him now tho - makes stuff easier
yours with mishka was a life saver though!
thought was "hm a knockup followup would be nice"
but yeah, this purple mfer makes life so much easier, 10/10 do not regret
he's like the pepe of heroes
kinda jack of all trades do all himself yea
gets targeted by 5 heroes, ccs them, is the highest dps - lmao
(and has a cheat death)
did you check my 3 replays above? the one with him is nuts, I was collecting 0 dmg from enemies on this stage 
yea was a really really clean fight 0 deaths and over in like 8s or something like that that was crazy lmao
now we just need a consistent way to stack haste 
(for all our heroes to outspeed enemy comps)
feel like the lyca haste for example does so much
and to think we'll have a 3rd fabled beast soon, I might get tired from pushing not because of difficulty but because in its greed lilith is killing the challenge
yeaa i hoped that they would hold of bunny till easter ... cause it would even make sense
like how do they miss the chance to promote him in an easer event
what's the feedback on it from classic's folks btw?
believe 2 op abilities and his summons weren't too hot
he summons "carrot minnions"
debuffs enemies and buffs teammates
CW was 2* sweet spot, pepe is 3, I hope this one won't be 4 
believe from hearing sailus and pippa alt (classic player) convo
that its prob a a3 ability
but who knows how they rebalance for companions again
i just hope it doenst outcreep pega
because that would be a bad trend
yeah well, I won't get far with 700ish leaves I'll have by the time it comes
should be a0 - a1 ish
if they don't realize pepe was too much this game is doomed tbh
2,6 out of 3 on 30 avg
but yea am kinda sick of swiping on fabled pets
imma prob do my 2nd pega, the snickerfang and then i wanna have some peace otherwise i might protest skip or slowbuild then ew one and just finish my last pega first
idk
the whole trope of the game is to get ppl excited for heroes so, while I imagine a good way to get more income, fabled beats breaks a fragile balance and then what's the point of pulling for more heroes once your box reaches a point if pets do it all better
thing is pets are unrelated to heroes so they can just release them endlessly for both games
which kinda is for them the double jackpot ... but for us the double headache
yea kinda what im thinking
at some point its just throw the most dodge/tank/cheat death + pets together instead of actual teambuilding lmao
and i mean its nice to have like 1-2 cheat answers for hard solutions
but depending on the amount of battles it feels like there should be a limit -(tho now artificially creating an limit afterwards also doesnt feel right)
i just still personally think pets need to slow down
cause yea we hate normal pet fusion being completly random, resource intensive and shitty but outcreeping everything is also hm
honestly i feel bad for people who made a8 owls / a8 deers and others now ... xD
cause they might've been similar in terms of money/spent and got outcreeped so hard now
if they're completely braindead they'll do something like that: give ppl billions of xp for free by just grinding, keep releasing more pets, add a busted classic's mechanic AND make the game much harder
i can see that we soon just get a butterfly or something like that that has the same kit as owl with the haste buffing (prob then also haste slowing of enemies) just in a better way with like some damage added in and a utility like a big shield or whatever and then its the next big thing... 
welp we plunderd our reserves and its still quite the way up to 61-60
reaching tower cap before they patched it was fun tho 
they expected wilder tower and fixed/patched in a normal wilder tower already
but seeing in development mauler and graveborn tower was fun and catching the devs offguard 
oh yeah I remember that now, when the enemy teams total power was straight from classic without tuning
What is =compov?
write it in #companions-questions
Collaboration heroes who have already finished the event, is it possible to get them?
no
despair

It’s just you haven’t hit the 2023-2026 power creep stretch yet
at least awakened heroes are for everybody to enjoy
my point with fabled beast is that it's only a few that get the whole kit making it game breaking
also we had to beg for ABrutus and sure thing he helped everyone, dunno how tuned down he is, he's got no divine passives as the other awakened that's one thing
and I'm convinced they released pepe on companions without properly testing it, that shit is just too powerful
at 5* anyway
I said not in that patch u_u
sorry for confusion!
whos pepe
We both know exactly what you meant 😂
But it’s alright no hard feelings
Pegasus
Pegasus
again sorry if I said something misguiding ):
ah okie ofc ahah
I feel like that’s fine, you can’t compete with whales anyways
Let the whales enjoy what they pay for
Look I’m genuinely 100% certain u also thought they wont release him here but can’t admit it now but I get it
Id do the same in your position lol
Ig it depends on what you see as competing huh
Im ch47 yom is ch51
That’s not too bad imo
mm yes I think theres a chance I didnt know for sure at the time lol but apologies anyways

Whales can already go to t5 and si40 the celehypos and dims if they wanna burn money, I think that's plenty enough, being able to use multiple identical fabled beasts in a fight was really not necessary
I know that you only mean good bear 🫶
Yep we are getting bent over my guy
Hi Bear! I think ppl here are smart enough to not be mad at you, it's all execs wanting more money like everywhere
Lube yourself up this time trust me
if he's meta breaking im killing myself
Imma do the same
Ok nvm new tech for bunny discovered
i already have to deal with all the pepesus in my region
i cant take another broken pet
If you are lucky enough he can perma stall
Since there’s no Ty and is checks for pets
most balanced pet 
I know! I really appreicate that y'all are a group of discerning people! I also hope I am not giving misinformation tho ahaha
But I am reding thrugh this convo will add these thoughts to my weekly report
I still don’t even have pepesus a0

im 6 copies off a1
They still do this with your report i hate to break it to you
hopefully it starts to destroy some of these nubs trying to snipe me 
If they listened to you this game would literally be double the fun
they should listen to me too 
i want my 1000 sg card compensation
As dumb as it sounds they could literally take any one of our main group and place them as game director and this game would still get better than worse
what the helly haha
Even if it would be someone completely braindead like crown
Hahah
the main one is called labubu
oof i dot know if u wanna have that job ahahahah
so this one is a spin off? haha
It’s basically getting told No all day I assume
crown mentioned
this is the top league for this expedition
and telling ppl no inreturn ahahah
dont forget the christmas bonus 
is there another one somewhere just called labubu?
in the other expedition that some of us got seperated from 
iperx has seen some things about labubus 
laboubou
didnt someone rob her of her labubu 
I wonder what's more synthetic, the golden labubu or that woman's face
i dont think her face muscles even move
I haven’t seen anything about her in a while lmao idk
thats crazy haha

shes trolling btw
bear knows the labubu lore

Bearrrr is deep into the lore
Bearrrrr was the one who stole the labubu
How long have those things been around for? I feel old
I wonder how long it'll take for those to go under like the Funko pop figurines did
Already going under
since we are talking about labubus imma tell you this because i foudn it hilarious
labubus are (like lilith) form shanghai
the company is called popmart

when Tim Cook viited Shanghai to launch the new iphone or somethng a couple months ago
the only three places he publicly visited were
- the Apple store
- Lilith HQ
- Labubu HQ
which I think was pretty representative of the major cultural exports from china to the world (namely labubu and gacha lol)
(I know gacha gems are form jp but china has been making a lottt of them)
Literally no surprise
These Chinese do know the grind
That is impressive
haha yeah ppl here have been absolutely obsesses with popmart for years
I thought Lilith wasn’t that large ngl
Multi million but the way you’re talking about it it seems like billions
the reason why he visited was because Journey won something like game fo the year on apple store
there are larger companies in shanghai when it comes to gaming
Mihoyo is next door from us lol
but also tencent is a pretty huge one
compared to those lilith is more like mid-size i believe?
I see
I know tencent from somewhere
Idk where tho
you've heard of it because iirc they are one of if not the biggest game company there is, they have shares in all the biggest western studios making AAAs
mihoyo has also been to court against them because tencent were stealing assets from them
I think they also were the ones running WoW in China, I remember the deal broke at some point and millions of players lost their accounts, maybe it's back now though, I think I read something about it a year or so ago
ohhhh yeah something liek that did happen, a lot fo controversies on how they ran wow in general i think
Tencent owns supercell
Hmm
basic spawn carrot carrot do dmg
OK thank you for summarising it for me 👍
seem super weak at M and lower
mostly use for RNG cc
yeah
Nhưng mà Pegasus chưa có copy nào nữa, lấy con thỏ làm gì 🐰?
someone said he needs that atkspeed and it's on A2
a5 also seems pretty strong but I didn't saw the pet in action yet
You can use him at m to fish for lucky debuffs
Ty for forwarding @maiden hare
That sounds like a new hero
Can someone guess who? 😳✨
Or peggy?
I love your hope 😘❤️, me too 🤣✨
@mint dove Kiểm tra xem Dolly nói gì nè
i have him at 24 on classic , kinda mediocer ,
he only really shine at 33 ( which is 4a )
kalene ?
simona ?
Not them
Kalene dialogue was talking about traitors
And sim was something about bells
but peggy strike fear ?
really , let me check
Yeah i guess Peggy too
It’s either new hero or peggy
everything can happen lol
walker used to considered as the weakest hero in classic 🙂
Walker Is the GOAT and always has been
it's not a new hero, classic got another dialog
yeah I mean gear, but just checked t2 armor (HP) on Abrutus (as he doesn't have divinity)
And for f sake I can't come on that 509k from those 3,1%. I'm on 494K / ~473k
damn yom is on the run, i call in sick, sleep a bit wake up and ch60 is done
for those who test snickerfang and early max him
would be intresting to see
#1 nevanthi interaction - does she buff the carrots/the pet significantly or cant she interact with pets?
#2 mira bleed?
#3 khazard for the duration timers (almost sounds like a call for me lmao)
mira bleed?
you mean the health loss?
but a5 nevanthi with this pet is a interesting idea, I don't believe she will boost him but we will see
@ebon sand 50-60-2 till 50-60-5
Thanks a lot!
No update news today?
Yeah and that's because this countered it decently but the tidus was even worse
we've been seeing a lot +30 enemy lycas - i feel they give us a hard t ime haste up on emeies is always rough
glad that selene did really work there
i was hoping to find things today but you're relentless -glad to have ya carrying atm 
Shall doesn't even get to ult or maybe just once
(refering to 50-60)
oof cecillia, thane, nemora charme anda charger
its either sjw cha or stall yea 
Yeah and I think this deficit is getting out of hands
I know I'm always saying this but we manage to push through but idk, it feels really bad man
10 more chapters to bite through 
Gonna need 10 more collabs at this rate 
Yeah, I really wish I could've kept the Selene team for a Grezhul one, I tried maulers Tatsu for quite a bit at 1, I knew there was little hope but it would've made the rest much more easier
It wasn't terrible but not enough
so true xD
welp lets hope that this carrot montrosity will work at mythic/a0 for us not sure where I'll end up after swiping but the target is to not completly overspent and slowbuild both this thing and the 2nd pega
yea the grezhul tasi one seems rough with sjw but eventually
Gamba for good debuffs at mythic fr
If you consistently get sleep on all his debuff procs he’s the best pet in the game 
Yeah if you saw the SaiLus SS above there'll be a new weekly Pippa offer with the bunny so I think it'll be better to take it slow with this one
this with khazard 👀
he reduces 30 dissolve at A0
I assume every hero in companions have 0 dissolve as we don't even have that attribute yet
it costs quite the bit tho 
so that would be -30 (if that even does anything...)
we do have crit defense reduces and we know that belinda, lyca, sjw ... e.g. all work with the negatives
(thats why they're also that good for bosses)
so the -30% dissolve + the khazard duration increase
if they would not cap and stack together

I think that no matter how cracked the pet is at A0, if you don't have any pet buffs for the heroes, they'll get wiped instantly
is better than the most awk pet deals
true im looking at the selene cycle for us mostly even without khazard
increasing selene by 30% and leonardo by 30% is a lot
I think it might be better to keep the bunny for a separate team and keep Leo with Selene like we already do?
yea bc its 2000/2300% and the others are like 1250-1600%
If you like at my win vs the mez team, they barely do anything already
always good to recalc and its def nice to have - ig bearr ulted with a better weekly offer after we complained about a awk pet taking 52 weeks to build
@vale abyss thanks
the pet is healing after a1 I believe
Having a second team that stuns a lot would be pretty clutch
yea for sure if we can f.e. use it for the mira bleed/health loss as cc up with atalene and use the pega elsewhere it would be hugee
but we'll see have some ideas in mind that need to be tested
and we'll find a place for it - im just a bit annoyed that it released that early 
he doesn't do sleep here? or is "Entangle" = sleep 
I don't really care about PvP anyway but the bunny armies are gonna be a thing pretty quickly imo 
tbf his mythic/a3 sounds fun for 5 pull - tho i think celestwing will be better
or 5 push with frampton currently
If we could get another big haste giver like lyca, we could use bunny with framton, cw with Skriath/Eironn and have both a 5 pull/5 push in the same stage 
Do we know on avg how many leafs we need for A pet?
512
But 5 pull doesn't really work anymore for me already, I still try every now then
that's a lot...
270ish for one mythic x6 for a5
256 is about the avg for mythic
thank you!
sailus is accounting better odds - but sounds about right
i rather give people worse odds and make them feel good when pulling then giving them other odds and if they're slightly below they come fuming at us with hatred 
somewhere around that, I don't think anyone actually recorded the pull rates from that

avg should be somewhere inbetween 28-33
Are you auto-ing the last stage rn, iperx?
yee am on the grezhul/tasi with sjw
Break a leg!
tyvm!
hope i can figure something for 51-4 out but lets see maybe its good if you catch a break - because damn you're relentless pushing atm xD
Took me almost an hour to decide to use Framfram at 2, I kept going at every fight manually to try and decide what to use where
but its fun seeeing that our fundamentials work and we got our nieche comps quite well together before figuring out everything 1 by 1
But for the last 3 fights, it took almost 3 hrs to figure out what to use where
Nice 👍
I really didn't want to brick my run and at the same time it looked like nothing would work
the monos are always kinda weird 
think they're by default a bit more tricky because we're allowed to use everything
Yeah but I meant 3 4 and 5 in -60
I'm still surprised I could make stall work vs the last team tbh
not saying its always like that but we run a lot into that lmao
Yeah, but I hate it lol
yea big performance from everyone on your side - specially flora did big dmg there lol
Entangle is similar to sleep, it’s atheuses ult
Or arden
Actually it matches arden more
the team 2 fight
and kinda every fight at that point isnt free
we got some hendrik shenanigans
we got a big numisu with chargers
we got cecillia/thane annoying us
we got wukong with tanky af graveborns and isa
You have it disabled but when I saw ATalene's ult animation, I was crossing fingers like a madman, I knew it smelled good, Thoran really cooked as well 
GG, grats for the chapter clear, I'm glad it all worked well for you
Framton didn't look too bad at 2, maybe if we can add tatsu in it and make it work but I didn't look further than a couple manual attempts as 1 looks like RNG fiesta
I've set up 1 with sjw and 2 with the selene atm
will watch a bit of 1 first and see how that turns out
I'm still in bed and didn't get enough sleep, I just might let you do the work this time

1 deadass looks not fightable
We've beaten things like that in the past but the deficit makes it a bit closer to impossible every time yeah
Gz on ch51
all y0m tbf
tbf on 49 and before we stacked up resources
thats the difference - this time we used our stuff up and pushed
Yeah, we were hitting a wall where nothing worked
I see
Kinda curious how low you guys will make it through it when you get there
that's still 6 months away 
rem releasing and other new collabs 
On average with pretty insane precision my reso has been equaling your guyses when you were on that specific stage
You just need to find out how long it will take me for example to reach 440 or wherever you are and that’s pretty accurate
am amazed that fantasy is at 451 hes been getting every weekly with the 3x 24h xp i beleive
Yeah but that's the idea, with a new pet and new dims I'll see if ppl will make it through with 20 less lvls than us or there indeed was a wall
Lets say 9 for you
vanilla latte soon overrunning us 
damn vanilla slowed down quite the bit
Yeah we'll see
46-30 isnt that where the +30 SI starts?
I saw that zephyr made it to ch48
She can’t keep up thank god
I didn’t wanna grind any more


Ch47 was enough of a hassle
That Korean house wife
She’s my downfall
Except if she’s a milf
Then I’ll allow it
yea Zephyr is still pushing on his own pace on terms - people told me he still uses ainz, ice crown and a mythic celestwing sometimes
Oh I see, guess we're not doing it all wrong then 

god fucking damn this game and it's "network error"
His Ainz was so over invested, it must hurt to see him fall off like that
tbf i think hes still usable in many cases the 15s timer still takes 50% of enemies and does a big stun - he is kinda like a clock
wont be easy and needs a team build around it we just found more reliable tools
Mine isn't too shabby either, I still try him sometimes but so far didn't get to win anything with him in forever
It’s not that bad, if it happens you atleast know your solution works and you can just autorun it
i just wanna get to ch44 
on emulators it happens when you kinda overrun it for too long or like wake it up from sleep
on smartphones it probably actually has to do with like in the middle of the fight losing network once, reconnecting and then kinda getting an other auth-token or whatever system they use
and the system prob mismatches the session-tokens from the login ans says "nuh-uh"
Are you on the internet through a lan connection when you get them? Smallest network loss at the wrong time is enough with this fucking game, even on Lan it can happen but still more rare than on WiFi
yeah i'm on lan connection 
yea noticed they're pretty strict with session-tokens / session-ids
Then try rebooting your emulator every few hours

mumu and bluestacks work pretty consistently for me
Or at least not start going at a new stage when it's been running for hours already, it might help
I got one not too long ago, it wasn't network but failed to verify blah blah blah
In the middle of the previous chapter
But it's my fault, I upgraded some gear of someone who had already been used, it seems to trigger errors more frequently
The thing that'll 100% kill your run is upgrading a pet that already won a fight when auto-ing
But this happens once every blue moon so
Not really a problem
yeah sometimes i forget to not upgrade my pets when im in the middle of a stage
@vale abyss do you have any idea of how many active player there is on afk arena ? classic + compagnion
if they change tatsumaki's name to tatsumaki in classic does it affect companions too
yup
ok good since it got enough upvotes in suggestions so was wondering
i only make suggestions to the companions one
i make there for basic game play but for golden frontier i do on both
i have 4 suggestions out of which 1 has enough upvotes
With the upcoming pet he might find new purpose
If I want to spend a bit, are the talene obsidian packs a wrothy investment?
Or better off not investing in cele/hypo as a low spender
depends on how much you want to spend
you say little but how much do you mean by it
they're good value
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F8GWQiHuQV3ubYKLXVMpnHwwgtXAfdZOtCaMZ8usCWI/edit?gid=1447446012#gid=1447446012
look into the bundles_CALC tab
Maybe like 100-200 budget
Thanks, will do!
yeah that is the best way to spend
The bundle is high value. If i recall correctly it comes in 3 iterations, each being 60 for 4 copies
Yep but you have to buy the first two to get the second two for free
It falls within his budget :p
And in the same phase too right?
I’d suggest monthly card (4.99) and an advancement pack + travel notes if you want to stretch it a bit too
Exp is the true wall
Going for highest value over a longer period of time than those bundles are much more worth it yes
@pine sable @verbal forge 47-40 team 2 is 5 pullable 👀
im still stuck on 47-36 
That team 1 is a bitch isnt it

did the gear value change before/after removing the other gears?
oddly, atk seems to be almost perfect, minus some rounding error. it's only hp/def causing issues
yeah pain in the ass my sjw comp worked once in like 400 tries and never again since then but my game crashed and its not working anymore 
You deserve it
I can look at some other heroes when I get home
😞
Might be new meta 😂
You literally bought 4 team campaign
🔥
Gooby you got Merlin A5 right?
Yessir
In my opinion... you are underestimating too much, I think the average is 35 and for the myth APet you need 315 leaf
that's my avg from only a a few thousands pulls so could be just luck
but 35 is the beginning of hard-pity, soft pity starts around 27/28 like iperx said
but those are also my opinions for now, can't confirm anything with those numbers for now

y0m and me are getting creative with it 51 seems to be rough for us
You are already at 51?? Weren't you just 40 something
they been at ch50 lol
what is the end goal of this game by the way, guys>?
will we meet Goddess Dura after saving Esperia from hypogeans >?
there is no end goal what kinda question is this
an innocent question
this game is literally pointless then
nobody's forcing you to play it

being pointless is not inherently a bad thing.
I swear I saw them at 49 or something a couple days ago
Average is 35
Trying to get to highest chapter possible
Yea pushing campaign, doing daily/weekly events for goodies that help your teams to get stronger so you can push further. 💪
i wanted to meet the Goddess in the end 
The goalpost keeps moving back
Thats expedition where the pet gets cocaine

snickerang summons counting as "units" that keep the round alive seems weird and could def be broken, cause pets have way more defensive stats aswell
and if the carrots have them they're all mini hereos 
Looks op
like if not up against %hp or high shred they'll tank forever
(if that interactions was as it supposed to be)
It’s reported as a bug
Prob something to do with cheat deaths and pet registering as a hero
That pet going to be broken in TF, as only the first cc at high floors is negated
can the people who are doing weird stuff with framton in campaign (2 character clears) tell me what is the minium tier it should be to be ¨good¨
also just a note i don't plan to max him myself unless it's managable for a f2p but i will tell some people about it
mainly @sleek field @timber cipher and @ebon sand
a3 +20
Ive never used him at lower than A5 much I think. So hard for me to opine on that part. But Id say he is worth building out slowly over time as he is quite versatile and can blend well with the 4F hero comps
can he be used if lower or is that the ideal
under is not that usefull
ok thank you for answering @timid briar @sleek field @timber cipher
If you are at A3, might as well go for A5 I think. Improves his damage and speed of gaining 100 flaming feast, which triggers his immunity
blaze points not flaming feast*
i mean i personally am no where close actually i don't seem to even have a copy of him
might be because of my walker thing tho
well i will atleast unlock him for now
Also AFK arena is also a lot of trial and error, like pulling off the 2 hero clear with Merlin and Framton
That just started out as a silly idea
yeah was just curious about it since i still need a team for campaign and figured if those 2 could solo it would be nice
It won’t work before lv 341+ anyway
i am almost there 3 more heroes to 340 already have the GOAT walker and tatsumaki
The initial lore says Dura died in the previous war against Hypos. They were beaten back at the time but now they're strong and attacking again
Granted it gets funky cuz we use Hypos too. Story wise thay wouldnt make sense
Altho celestials arent all sunshine and rainbows either. Zaph/Luc lore is great illustration of that
There's no end goal. Just have a good time and maybe rank high along the way
I do think this game should end with either the hypos or gb finding Dura's body and resurrecting her to fight on their side. We find out this is happening and try to stop it
And the final chapter is either we succeed or fail
And we also have to fight the hypo god at some point
you cooked fr. i would love to see that!
and yeah, we using hypogeans doesn't make sense lol
It’s very murky especially with shit like astral devourer being in the lore
Anyone here knows why Terrible Tornado sucks in Classic? She is not used anywhere
Not enough survivability
her ult is slow
Not good in a big level deficit, she just get to ult. Classic has a lot tougher standards for damage dealers
I e60 her and now I feel pretty bad 😛
Power creep is crazy there, but Saitama on the other hand is already being used in classic
He's used in current cr rotation
for the boost
often classic use boost hero fast
I guess you can reset engraving? If you haven't already
but nahh
he survived
super you need to pull a hero in her circle to get that
yes allied hero
they give me 1 dps hero in classic that will go in her circle
- the circle take time to go out
Everyone hang skibby by their toes, they broke the Ziki chain
yea she kinda sucks, I don't think anything will change
50% is like nothing
Aurelia gives up to 240% if she has 100 something erosion
well that won't ever happen here
-# I hope it won't happen (and I mean GG, not Aurelia)
a lot of S tier heroes from classic will be meh without GG artefacs here and I'm absolutely fine with that 
Omg its beautiful
so many gems
just realised my name hasn't updated in suggestions so no one will know what i have previously made (without looking at it closer)
Dang @timber cipher @ebon sand gratz on ch 51, I didn’t even notice you guys got there 
That was fast as fuck 
Thanks!
I just got a goated 1v5 from Mezoth
Seems like my theory was correct @timber cipher, even tho the deficit increases,
The gist of it stays the same and interaction rarely, or to be specific, very very slow but gradually, change
There is obviously a limit to that or else you could just reach 500 deficit
But that point is way further than we thought
why is the hp not going down
Because every kill off his ult he heals himself and regains ult
i did not realise he was that much of a goat
you'd think these videos would give us more votes on Mezoth in the voting ranking
I think we need to do better marketing gooby
he is just seen as the ugly duck when the princess gets all the attention
I just want a fat man in a penguin suit
no one wants it it's just rigged
mezoth would be cool if he was a giant shark
Give him a Hulk skin
that would be great
I like how he dealt and tanked almost the same dmg

His single target cc is unmatched
i voted for mezoth today but still walker is the GOAT
I’m surprised Zikis has more votes than Mezoth
he can already casually tank an orthrus volly

is 341 a big boost compared to 340 for tatsumaki?
What is his minimal investment to work?
Mezoths?
A3 si30 but he really shines at a5 si30

Oh…

its a celehypo use ur brain 
after 321 there are no more "big big boosts" but generally any level up is a level up after that and nice to have
then why is framtom good after 341 and other heroes as well ( i mean specifically 341 compared to 340)
Did you see my Mez carry 
early on there is a border every 20 levels up to 360
but 321 is the last ability unlock - still a boost but not compareable to 320->321
no
^^^^
i just got done with family stuff, im sick and had to take care of the house cause of social life 
yeah i know 321 is the last level up for the skills i already have mine at 321 or above just wondering why 341 or above was mentioned for ideal level for some heroes
no sjw needed 
I beat every other one first without SJW 
So I just threw em in there
level scaling isnt public we have no data leak on that but a crowdsource project from bob where he wants to check stats based on level ups from people
yeah i know about that project was just wondering if there is any known differences
sometimes we're completly stuck with lvl 433 but are able to breeze through at 434 for example
not sure if there are some checks that just resist armor pen from heroes like frampton or not - cant telly a
well from infernal temporal rift everything started resisting any type of cc aside from knockups or knockbacks
goobing around
i think i might be getting back into warframe lmao
so it's not a significant boost but still a boost
yea me and y0m noticed it sometimes but there is black wizard stuff going on with level boundries sometimes
thats why 60 level gap feels early almost hard and impossible
and lateron 120
and later later 150
then 200
and now we're at 230
ok i will test it out to see if it was noticable
best way would be to have some source leak
Dopeee I just got my second protoframe

well the blue stuff i use to level up heroes i just call it blue essence
yeah i could use that term as well i guess
tenno
Me playing with my blue balls
and still not blue
I think I have some decent progress in Warframe atm
260 hours I now have 15 Warframes

not me who grinded every galva mod and is farming endo now
what is the idea in warframe/ the game play loop of it
I got Equinox only 200 hours into the game of grinding
I hate equinox
sanbox, hack and slash, grind
my only big grind is this
there is so much that you can like about that game
that there is little that you can dislike
its harder to find stuff that you dont like
just that the grind calls and its not as fun alone
It’s a looter shooter, hack n slash, fishing sim, SoT type, trading game
is it closer to dark souls or megabonk
It also has a platformer and a fighting game
i think its close to nothing else
has really clean movement
forgot how fun it is
The most unique movement in gaming
i just made 2000 platin by selling old stuff the past days

Lmao
limited by trades over anything
i will dowload it and see how i like it